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>Latest Updates

WonderSwan
- add support for Benesse PocketChallengeV2 (from makigumo)
- fix palette readback (Pocket Fighters)
- fix IDIV instruction (One Piece - Chopper no Daibouken)
- added flip mode for horizontal mode
- fixed and unified sprite and background window mode (Klonoa, Digimon,...)

>What is MiSTer?

MiSTer is an open project that aims to recreate various classic computers, game consoles and arcade machines, using modern hardware. It allows software and game images to run as they would on original hardware, using peripherals such as mice, keyboards, joysticks and other game controllers.

>Wiki

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/wiki

>> No.7903173 [DELETED] 

I'm beginning to think that shitlord who calls everyone a MiSTer shill is a tranny jannie here. These threads get shot down constantly despite them actually having decent discussion (afformentioned sperglord derailer shitbird janny aside who feels the need to cry in every thread about something nobody's telling them to buy into)

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>>7903015
>add
>fix
I thought it was magically perfect

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>>7903192
weak b8
here's a (you) for effort, tho

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>>7903173
Don't worry. Now that byuu is gone, I expect 80% less shitposting in /MG/ threads.

>> No.7903997 [DELETED] 

>>7903967
>Now that byuu is gone
i doubt he actually did it

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>>7903997
Let's hope he didn't do it, but let's also hope that he take some time off from his shitposting.

>> No.7904053

Isn't the MiSTer core based on Higan?

>> No.7904093

>>7904053
Don't know, but I have my doubts. There are a lot of other sources that document the SNES hardware.

>> No.7904183

Mister is garbage. An Xbox Series S can run retroarch with runahead and achieve the same thing for roughly the same amount of money if not less. There isn't much reason to own a Mister. B-b-b-but my cycle accuracy. lmao.

>> No.7904201

The Xbox is a better investment, it can emulate more stuff than the Mister can. Mister may have slightly better latency but it doesn't matter, 99% of games don't need that extra bit of precision. For edge cases like fighting/music games you'd just want to play that on original hardware + CRT anyway.

>> No.7904579

>>7903208
It's literally what a large portion of your cult believes.

>> No.7905001 [DELETED] 

>>7903967
>>7903997
what happend to byuu?

>> No.7905092 [DELETED] 

>>7905001
He realised MiSTer is superior to emulation and offed himself.

>> No.7905231

>>7904053
It is. SNES core was written by srg320 and he does not even own a real Super NES console. He still keeps fidfling with the core, fixing weird edge cases like Beavis & Butthead.

>> No.7905236

>>7905231
>It is.
Source?

>> No.7905237 [DELETED] 

>>7905001
41%, allegedly

>> No.7905271 [DELETED] 

>>7905001
Posted a suicide note on twitter.
Dude was autistic and lives in Japan so there's no one nearby to check in and see if he's okay.

>> No.7905308 [DELETED] 

>>7905092
kek

>> No.7905651

>>7903015
>noctua fan
mister seems pretty based.

>> No.7905656

>>7905651
It is, they need to touch something to been able to play it

>> No.7907289

RCA Studio II core never

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>>7905651
>noctua fan
I bought one for my MiSTer. Very quiet with good airflow, but I made a bit of a mess of the wiring.
The fan comes with these solder-free splice connector things you put two wires in and then crush with forceps, which I used to shorten the power cable and join it to the plug of the 3>2 pin adapter- but I did so without checking if the 2 pin plug fit the socket on the I/O board. Which it of course didn't. The 3 pin plug the fan originally came with actually did fit, with a bit of overhang, but the polarity was then reversed (black needed to be spliced to red). After undoing my mistake the wires were trimmed back perilously short, then I subsequently fumbled one of the crimps on the second attempt- and needed to break out the soldering iron I haven't touched in 6 years. Slid some heatshrink over the solder and it works great now but looks like a dog's breakfast.

>> No.7907554

>>7907468
If it works, it works. I had the Noctua setup for a while but I switched to the aluminum case. Feels good to just pick up the thing like a brick instead of having to be careful with what part I'm touching, but damn can it get hot after running stuff on it for a while

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I love paying more for a raspberry pi with emulation layers! Mister rules!

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>>7907554
Those aluminium cases are pretty sexy.
I'd have strongly considered ordering one if not for the fact I'd now need to disassemble the DE10 from the IO board (risky because GPIO headers seem to be extremely tight and it was a frightening experience getting them in and out the last two times). That, and they're like 70 USD and MiSTer addons charges like 50 bucks flatrate to my country.

Besides, the acrylic cases work fine. Just can't use alcohol to clean them (apparently).

>> No.7908441

>>7904183
Parallel processing = less latency.

>> No.7908460

>>7908441
can you give me an example of the tasks that the mister do in parallel?

>> No.7908629 [DELETED] 

>>7905237
>>7905271
I guess the weight of those standing on his giant shoulders finally got him down

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>>7908460
CPU's and FPGA's are different technologies for different sets of problems. While both can archive the same results, both have their own strengths and drawbacks.

While a CPU is very fast at doing one task at the time, an FPGA is good at doing n tasks at the time with a lower clock.

What this mean to emulation on CPU's vs FPGA's is shared resources (also with your OS and every other program that runs on your PC) vs single resources per component.

Is it worth buying extra hardware for having a deterministic simulation of an old 8/16 big system is your decision.

>> No.7908687

>>7908460
The whole point is the FPGA cores can integrate multiple simulated chips that work in parallel as opposed to software implementations which has to flip-flop between multiple simulated chips at a rate where the emulation doesn't fall over. In FPGA if you design the chips to work in parallel they will work in parallel.

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>>7908460
CPU's and FPGA's are different technologies for different sets of problems. While both can archive the same results, both have their own strengths and drawbacks.

While a CPU is very fast at doing one task at the time, an FPGA is good at doing n tasks at the time with a lower clock.

What this mean to emulation on CPU's vs FPGA's is shared resources (also with your OS and every other program that runs on your PC) vs single resources per component.

Is it worth buying extra hardware for having a deterministic timing simulation of an old 8/16 bit system is your decision.

>> No.7909049

>>7908690
>While a CPU is very fast at doing one task at the time
what are you talking about?

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>>7908690
I forgot the pic

>> No.7909157

>>7908690
I think you're confusing multitasking with parallel processing.

>> No.7909175

>>7909060
That your 64 cores are still not enough to do 65 XOR's in a singe clock cycle.

>> No.7909280

>>7909175
what is the point of that if you have to wait for refresh the frame

>> No.7909330

All this technical stuff and I still haven't seen a response time better than 3 frames, it's all just marketing, and you fall for it

>> No.7909509

>>7909280
It depends. That >>7908690 post is an oversimplification of the whole picture.

I don't want to spoon-feed you because that topic has been discussed over a million times here with more or less technical accurate explanations.

Both PC's and FPGA's can archive the same goal if enough resources are available.
But PC's have a much harder time archiving consistency and accuracy with all the restrictions (especially with Sound and Video) compared to the FPGA approach where you try to rebuild the architecture of a system on a reprogrammable "blank chip with lose gates". *like a clone console*

And no FPGA Cores are not necessary more accurate, but they are indeed deterministic in the timing and are the superior environment for that kind of task. There is no restriction in case of fitting your emulation/simulation/or whatever in an already existing architecture with its own restrictions.

(Fun fact the MiSTer isn't even "perfect" in that point either the SDRAM access is restricted to one read/write at the time which the GBA Core suffers from and needs some trickery)

>> No.7909520

>>7909509
Kinda like 3D graphics where you want dedicated hardware (GPU) for that task because its more efficient or just better at doing it even if software rendering on a CPU is possible.

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>PS1 never

>> No.7910806

this is currently the state ive got my mister fpga at, still waiting for about $40 more worth of parts. im in it for at least $400 right now and still more

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>>7910806

>> No.7910825

>>7910818

Does Sega Saturn original controller adapter even exist?

>> No.7910902

>>7910825
Daemonbite if you don't mind some soldering.

>> No.7912241

Sorg sure loves his Speccy and Commie64 computers. I wish Atari 8-bit and Apple ][ cores got the same amount of love.

>> No.7912434

https://twitter.com/AzumFpg/status/1410162674256711680?s=20
Good shit. If this has the "VGA is one player, HDMI is the other" option that could make Ghost Babel's multiplayer work

>> No.7912537 [DELETED] 

>>7903173
I've thought the same thing. In fact I received a three day or so ban for calling out an anti-mister troll.

>> No.7912539

>>7904183
>>7904201
Just play the games. Nobody cares.

>> No.7912545

>>7912434
>https://twitter.com/AzumFpg/status/1410162674256711680?s=20

>Code is available public on Github.

Where? I can't find the core

>> No.7912553

>>7910902
This. Has anybody else made one of his Double Input adapters? "Two Genesis Style". I made one and I have ghosting problems with it. Used to only be an issue with fighting games, but has gotten bad enough that I went back to the USB 8bitDo for single player games.
I'm trying to figure out if it's the Adapter or the Non-MiSTer MTT USB 2.0 hub I got off of Amazon.

>> No.7912731

>>7912553
I made a dual Saturn recently. I'm waiting on more Arduinos to make a single or dual Genesis adapter. I haven't found anything to impact playing yet on Saturn but I'll keep an eye out. I had a controller quit working but that turned out to be an oxidized connector. Re-seating fixed it so I scrubbed it with Deoxit.

>> No.7912992 [DELETED] 

>>7912537
Same. I've gotten multiple bans for just responding to them. There's a clear agenda being pushed to try and suppress the MiSTer for some reason.

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>>7912992
Just don't reply to obvious troll posts and keep the dumpster fire going. I am kinda happy that a janny is kind enough to keep /MG/ kinda "clean".

>>7912553
I had the same problems, but it turns out that the combination of the forced 1ms polling and my USB hub was a bad idea. If you have the forced 1ms polling on, try to disable it.

>> No.7914331

>>7910818
thumbnail looked like a tiny crt for a sec

>> No.7914485

>>7910818
Are the retrobit Saturn controllers any good?
I need some kinda 6-button solution for certain platforms and it'd be way cheaper than a fightstick.

>> No.7915570

>>7914485
They're great.

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I had a feeling I forgot something. Still worked with J1 open.

>> No.7917892

Main:
- Reworked IDE code: faster read mode for ao486, CDROM support for Minimig.
- Fixes for SharpMZ (Alan Steremberg).
- PCE CD tweaks (David Shadoff).


ao486:
- Updated IDE module, higher read performance.
- Joystick tweaks (Vincent Pelletier).
- Updated framework.
Note: you must update Main to latest version!


Minimig:
- Reworked IDE, support for CDROM (data-only for now).
- Tweaks in LED filters.
- RTG: some tweaks for better stability.
- Update both 68000 and 68020 CPU modules.
- Updated framework.
Note: you must update Main to latest version! Read the readme for CDROM notes.

>> No.7918614

Looks like CPS2 is finally public now

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>>7918614
Nice, time for some SFA2

>>7916753
J1 bypasses the linear voltage regulator you might get some problems, but if you get some you know how to fix them. :^)

>> No.7918759

>>7918614
*sometime today. Update_all doesn't have it yet.
>>7918657
Ahh. All good now.

>> No.7918767

>GBA2P
>- add optional seperator line
>- add missing serial IO Pin readback
What's this supposed to fix? Does this relate to some User Port feature or an internal GBA thing?

>> No.7919756

>>7903015

I feel like an idiot, ive overspent building this thing and now another loss, i bought the m30 from 8bitdo but got the original genesis version, is there anyway i can use an adapter? and if so where do i buy one? can I buy the 8bitdo seperate usb and then use the m30 on it? so far i managed to install and update. is it a reality we'll ever see n64? or ps1 or hell even jaguar. it looks cool nonetheless. ive spent $500 on this shit so far.

>> No.7919760

>>7916753

holy shit i just posted the post above this, how can i do this?

>> No.7919763

>>7919756
This is why this thread always makes me laugh.

>> No.7919779

>>7919756

Dude for $500 you could have gotten a NVIDIA XAVIER that can emulate GAMECUBE games, shit would have a much smaller footprint as well. YIKES LOL

>> No.7919784

>>7919756

You're going to want the original genesis version anyways.

>> No.7919795

>>7919760
https://github.com/MickGyver/DaemonBite-Retro-Controllers-USB/tree/master/SegaControllerUSB

There's a commercial version but it seems to be perpetually out of stock. I think it's the best combo for a wireless USB controller.

>> No.7919839

So it it possible or not that the hardware on de10 nano has the power to run something ont he circuit level for N64? To me this is next level enthusiast gear. Id kill to have an authentic SGI system, I own SGI o2 and Indigo 2 running IRIX, I wonder how far we are from running something like this and to be honest it would need only slight updates, running old os is nice when you just need a few things.

>> No.7920103

>>7919839
De10 nano doesn't have enough logic gates for N64 and the next FPGAs up are way too expensive. The idea of Mister and having all of the cores on github is so that when the time comes for the next cheap FPGA board everything can be ported over

>> No.7920203

>>7920103
>when the time comes for the next cheap FPGA board everything can be ported over
I wonder when that'll happen. And how many logic elements it'll have compared to the DE10's 110k vs however many an N64, Dreamcast, etc. would require.

>> No.7920379

>>7919795
Why is that better than just a wireless USB controller?

>> No.7920386 [DELETED] 

>>7903173
Fuck off, they're just as biased against the people calling out mister. I've gotten banned before just for responding to you shills.

>> No.7920580 [DELETED] 

>>7920386
Biased ?Total bullshit, in first place people that doesn't own MISTer yet come here for shitposting only for every new thread deserves the ban without question.
Especially people that doesn't jack shit about MISTer, never tried in their life, but somehow thinks they know better than everyone have nothing to do here.,

>> No.7920586 [DELETED] 

>>7920580
If you're acknowledging its deserved stop acting like it's asymmetrical, nigger.

>> No.7920829 [DELETED] 

I've seen many shit from them, yet what are they doing still confuse me sometimes.

>> No.7921210

>>7920203
N64 and I guess DS (DS is a memory speed issue I think) could be on "the next board" but with the shortages I can't imagine that we'll be getting a better candidate very soon

>> No.7921414

>>7920379
Many have no chance of same frame input. This combo is even faster than the Bluetooth M30 with a wired connection. It's a good controller with a good layout for Console and Arcade cores. 6 face buttons, L+R triggers and a dedicated Home button (or whatever you like).

>> No.7921479

>>7921210
There won't be a next board.

>> No.7922461

>>7921479
I doubt that.
It may be 10 years down the road, and it may cost more, but there'll be a new MiSTer candidate.

>> No.7922508

Anyone know of a good case? The official ones are like $75 which just seemslike too much.

>> No.7922518

>>7922508
>official
There are no official cases.

Anyway I use the acrylic one seen here >>7908349 which works fine. I regret not getting a black or clear one though.

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>>7922461
Can't wait for the MiSTest.
>>7922508
The acrylic ones are fine, if you wanna go hard you can get an aluminum one with no fans

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>>7920580
>underage esl shitposter deserves the ban without question.

>> No.7922904

>>7921414
>Many
So slightly less than "many" are good, in your expert opinion?
>Bluetooth
lol
>all that poorcope
Why yes, I do want fries with that, how could you tell?

>> No.7922935

>>7908690
>While a CPU is very fast at doing one task at the time, an FPGA is good at doing n tasks at the time with a lower clock.
This is the average FPGA emulation advocate, ladies and gentlemen

>> No.7922963

>>7922518
>There are no official cases
Sorg developed the PCB case. That‘s the official one. Ultimatemister still sells them.

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>>7909175
Just a fact, not an opinion -> >>7922935

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>>7922935
Just a fact, not an opinion -> >>7909175

>> No.7923193

>>7922963
>Sorg developed the PCB case.
Nope

>> No.7923353

>>7903208
It's not bait though, FPGAs are not magic, they don't inherently have 1:1 compatibility, but a lot of you morons believe that. I think the mister has some really compelling features, but jesus fuck if the FPGA morons don't actually understand what they're using. I've been an embedded systems engineer for 10 years, give or take and have been working with Verilog for 6 or so, y'all are fucking idiots.

>> No.7923359

>>7923353
You've used this larp before. No one cared then, no one cares now.

>> No.7923365

>>7923359
I care
>>7923353
Thanks of the insight anon <3

>> No.7923370

>>7923353
I mean it is still emulation

>> No.7923389

>>7923365
Like I said, no one cares.

>> No.7923396

>>7923389
I'm sorry you don't know anyone

>> No.7923532

How is hardware simulation using software at the end of the day any different than normal rom emulation.

>> No.7923565

>>7923532
>hardware simulation using software
Because that's not what's happening.
A MiSTer core is a deployable set of instructions: When those are handed to the FPGA chip it physically rearranges its logic elements to become each component on the circuit board of the console being replicated. The FPGA literally becomes that console, and the game software interacts with that system-on-a-chip the way it does in a real console. Because there's no software layer trying to tie together the functions and timing of each chip being emulated (the rearranged logic elements in the FPGA communicate in realtime like on the original console) the response time and accuracy is dramatically improved.

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>>7923532
>How is hardware simulation using software at the end of the day any different than normal rom emulation.

Your sentence makes no sense, but if you are asking why there is something like code for an FPGA, then the answer is that you need to configure the FPGA before it does anything. The LUT's don't set up themselve

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>>7923565
>the FPGA chip it physically rearranges its logic elements

Not the shit poster but this is BS. Look up how the logic is set on an FPGA.

>> No.7923951

>>7922904
What are you on about? If you check the MiSTer Input Latency chart 4chan won't let me post you'll see Many controllers have more than 16ms latency. This is the 2nd fastest wireless controller behind Krikzz on the same adapter.

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>>7923565
>The FPGA literally becomes that console

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>>7903015

So having owned this for a week now, my impressions are that the hardware itself is a really cool piece of technology. for someone who does not play much games and just want to use it kill time with games ive i played in the past, it does feel very authentic but that could just be anecdotal. I did honestly feel like it was more fluid or authentic compared to software. however, it NEEDS 5th generation support, it will never be the next great thing without this kind of support and thats still up in the air right now. id be willing to buy any upgrade if i could. also there's the price, really expensive, board itself was over 200 dollars with shipping and taxes, with additional addons you are really looking at $500, you want the best experience possible, lowest latency controller, whether you want it to be wired or not, which is also extra if you want low latency with wireless. you are gonna want a keyboard, which is also extra, fast microsd which is extra since the one it comes with is not enough. if we are not fooling ourselves, with aluminum case you can be looking at $600.

at the end of the day, if it does not get 5th gen it will never reach the heights most people here claim it is.

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Is Asterisk & Obelix XXL the only 3D platformer playable on MiSTer?

>> No.7924067

I thought mister had sega cd and saturn support is that something still being worked on?

>> No.7924078

>>7924067
Sega CD is out, Saturn is in development.

>> No.7924085 [DELETED] 

>>7924057
>this wall of text
Holy shit kill yourself. Your thoughts are an incoherent mess. Gives me a headache trying to read past the third sentence. Fuck you.

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>>7923193
You're a fucking retard. Don't reply to me with this type of bullshit.

>> No.7924101 [DELETED] 

>>7924085

take your meds schizo

>> No.7924125

>>7924057

can it run old games like phantasmagoria on the pc and 7th guest?

>> No.7924131

>>7924057
>also there's the price, really expensive, board itself was over 200 dollars with shipping and taxes
bear in mind this is a discounted price. the board costs like $300 to produce, Intel is subsidising it as an educational platform.

>> No.7924272 [DELETED] 

>>7924101
Nice reddit spacing, kill yourself.

>> No.7924374

>>7924125
It looks like you can but it takes a lot more setup than running console ROMs and the ao486 core runs hot enough that you really want a cooling fan in the Mister.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0si0corn4VU
https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/ao486_MiSTer
https://archive.org/details/top-300-final

>> No.7924724

>>7924057
>expensive
Don't kid yourself, you need to take into account the arcade boards it reproduces with near perfect accuracy ( in some cases more precise timing than the original hardware) and how much a single board costs you, in all it's unwieldy gigantic glory.
You're paying for convenience as well.
Playstation and Sega Saturn are allegedly being worked on and will be able to run on the mister, i really wish it could do n64 but playstation is too good to be true as it is

>> No.7924828

>>7924724
There is a guy who's currently working on an N64 FPGA but it's unlikely we will ever see it on the MiSTer due to just raw processing power, iirc the guy is using a $400 FPGA board to develop it right now. If we ever see this project get upgraded to a new generation board in the future though.

>> No.7924986

>>7924057
It emulates Windows 95 better than anything else I've tried, it's worth it for that alone.

>> No.7925119

Any recommendations for a keyboard and mouse for the Mister? Also what's the best latency wireless controller I can buy. I dont want to solder anything.

>> No.7925131

>>7925119
they have latency tests for usb controllers, i heard SNAC adapter with a snes pad is extremely low latency, i personally just use my DS4/ps4 controller on a pvm

>> No.7925139

>>7925119
I got this. Works great.
https://www.amazon.com.au/Perixx-PERIBOARD-706PLUS-Wireless-Keyboard-Trackball/dp/B006FNMB5I

SNAC is the fastest, and you can get 2.4Ghz wireless controllers for most platforms (eg. 8bitdo ones), but for convenience's sake as you can't navigate MiSTer menu over SNAC I'd say get the retrobit Saturn controller that comes with a USB and Genesis-style controller connectors.

>> No.7925140

>>7924828
honestly even if the price is higher the inclusion of the n64 and ps1 adds a lot of value as those two systems are harder to emulate correctly. i have been holding off on getting an FPGA setup until we get a system that plays everything up to ps1 properly, has cheats and save states, and "just works". perhaps we will get a MiSTer 2.0 in a few years.

>> No.7925275

>>7921479
Not any time soon, but eventually there will be. The DE10-Nano won't be made forever.

Hopefully the next board is something with an ARM processor powerful enough to run the Dolphin emulator and other emulators up to PS3 using hybrid FPGA solutions.

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>>7924087
Post a link next time, faggot.
(https://misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?t=663))

>Source: Trust me bro
>Licensed to sellers
I still call it bullshit. But if it's true, then gg wp "licensing" max 2 hours of work in altium/kicad because of the fucking huge amount of work making a nice silkscreen on a rectangular PCB.

>> No.7926094

>>7924057
I bought st for NES/SNES/Genesis/NeoGeo/PC-Engine. Don't care about 5th gen.

>> No.7926148

>>7926094
Same + cps/cps2 and the ao486

>> No.7926809

>>7925275
I can predict a hybrid approach becoming yet another autistic argument creator about it being authentic enough or not

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>Minimig:
>Add Akiko chunk to planar module (Read the readme!)
Boys, we are approaching the posh console territory

>> No.7927186

>>7926094
Bought mine for neo geo + pc engine + the dodonpachi port.
I don't care if we get 5th gen.

>> No.7927332

>>7927129
Is there anything worth a damn on that console? I really don't know.

>> No.7927412

>>7927332
Not really. It was basically an AGA Amiga with a CD drive and one custom chip inside (the Akiko mentioned above). It would be really stupid for devs back then to release games just for CD32 and not also for existing computer user base. So most releases were just Amiga games with CD audio sometimes thrown in. You could count genuine console exclusives with your fingers.
For historical value there's Defender of the Crown II, a largely expanded version of Amiga's first killer app. Pirates Gold was ported to CD32 and not to computer. Some people also like Litil Divil, a decent speciment of the CD-i library.
Note that many CD32 games were converted into computer hard drive format years ago and those are already playable on MiSTer, but you will not get Red Book audio that way,

>> No.7928131

>>7926809
most people agree that past N64 hybrid is the best solution.

>> No.7928379

>>7928131
What's the chances we'll get hybrid N64 emulation on the current MiSTer platform?
I know it has an ARM CPU (albeit very weak) that's not really used for much.

>> No.7928439

>>7928379

Highly unlikely.

>> No.7928572

>>7925275
What I mean is there won't be a board that is subsidised like the DE10 is. There are already plenty of more powerful boards that devs use to make cores, but those cost a lot more and I can't see companies ever eating into their profit margin to make them cheaper. The DE10 itself will rocket in price as soon as PS1/Saturn cores drop.

>> No.7928576

>>7928572
Yeah but like, it might take 10 years however Intel will eventually start producing FPGAs more economically and eventually there'll be a board at a similar price point to the DE10 with more LE's.

>> No.7928914

>>7928576
And at that point you will have trolls claiming that FPGA isn't worth cash if it can't do PS Triple.

>> No.7929003

>>7928914
>PS Triple.

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Anyone knows whats up with these weird IO boards that have appeared on Aliexpress? It seems they are both IO board and usb hub and theres a version with vga output and another with a sega saturn output connector that does svideo and composite.
Did they copy these from somewhere or did the chinese cook them up on their own?

>> No.7930293

>>7930290
this one chink cooked it up. They're actually pretty neat apparently. So good on him for being creative.

>> No.7931006

>>7930290
Nah already saw it here
https://www.antoniovillena.es/store/product/iousb-mini-addon/

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I can't think of a game I'd actually want to try with the Gameboy 2P core, help

>> No.7931501

>>7931448
Faceball 2000 might be fun with a friend. Good music too.

>> No.7931684

>>7926809
I'm okay with hybrid with the caveat being it's simply a temporary solution and work is still being done to document circuits even if it isn't feasible in fpga yet.

>> No.7932359

>>7924374
It's pretty easy and straightforward to setup DOS and Win95 on it from scratch:
https://www.jamesfmackenzie.com/2021/02/06/mister-ao486-core-part-1-dos-quick-start/
Even still, there are pre-made .vhds out there with everything done for you.

>> No.7932754

>>7931448
Most people want it for Pokemon trading. Maybe Tetris.

>> No.7933160

>>7931006
He only sells the version with VGA out. Ali express has a version of that IO board with sega saturn video out which supports, composite,s-video and RGB.

>> No.7935015

>>7932359
>Even still, there are pre-made .vhds out there with everything done for you.

link them.

>> No.7935050

>>7903015
No thanks. The MiSTer can't run 5th gen consoles. My PC can.

>> No.7935069

>>7933160
Any reason why some sort of composite/s-video "converter" can't just be built into a core in Verilog to allow outputting CVBS/YC through a cheap VGA adapter wire instead of needing to buy that Spanish guy's converter? Speaking on ignorance here but I can't imagine something like that taking up a ton of FPGA logic, is it just not possible with how the board works?

>> No.7935093

>>7935069
Ask the Chinese guy on aliexpress. He is the only one who has a io board with composite or s-video out.

>> No.7935148

>>7930290
What the fuck does the SFC / MD switch do?

>> No.7935210

>>7935148
I think its for snac maybe? the listing has really bad english so i can't say for certain

>> No.7935589

>>7928379
>>7928131
It can't be done

>> No.7935649

>>7935015
There is one at the end of the tutorial I posted and you can also look up eXoFlynn Top 300.

But it is only a handful of steps to make your own, really.

>> No.7935679

>>7935069
Sure. Why use a $1 off the shelf part when you could devote expensive FPGA resources to doing something.

>> No.7936074

>>7920580
So you're a Democrat? Thank you for convincing me on not buying a MiSTer.

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Just saw a bunch of devs in the Discord talking about possibly making some sort of User Port cables for GBA, either for linking two MiSTers together for 4-player GBA games or maybe connecting to an original GBA link cable to have a MiSTer link to a real GBA or Gamecube. God I hope something like that could get worked out, looks like the main issue for that atm is testing it and having a hardware cable guy working with FPGAzumSpass to plan it out.

>> No.7936369

>>7936259
That would be really cool. I'd really like to connect GBA core to Nintendont on Wii to unlock stuff in Mario Golf Toadstool Tour and Advance Tour without owning a real Game Boy or using cheats.

>> No.7936574

>>7936369
I never even considered that Gamecube link cables could work on a Wii, I guess I mixed that up with the Game Boy Player in my head.

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>>7936574
Link cable plugs into GameCube controller slot. If you have an original model Wii — you are good to go.

>> No.7936613

>>7936591
>Link to another MiSTer for 4 players
>Get a Gamecube/Wii HDMI solution
>Plug both MiSTers and the Gamecube/Wii into one of those 4K monitors that have a built in multiviewer function
>Four Swords can be played on one damn screen

>> No.7937120

>>7936259
>about possibly making some sort of User Port cables for GBA,
You can already get a Link Cable port that attaches via SNAC adapter.

You might need 4x MiSTers, which is prohibitively expensive and kinda silly, but in theory >>7936613 is already doable.

>> No.7937279

>>7937120
iirc that doesn't work with the GBA core, only the Gameboy one

>> No.7937284

>>7937279
Oh then yeah they may need to produce a SNAC attachment for a GBA-style port.
Assuming the GPIO connector has enough bandwidth (which, I mean, surely).

>> No.7937303

>>7937284
I'm pretty sure they could, in fact they could probably put two GBA link ports for GBA2P. That'd be a funky looking adapter though.

>> No.7937317

>>7937303
Well yes, if the bandwidth exists and the dude writing the core wants to support it via the 2-player GBA core (again, if there's enough logic units left in the DE10 to support that) then you could make a funky-looking dual GBA link port adapter.

>> No.7937338

>>7935589
Not on the MiSTer, but on a future platform designed for it, it could. You'd just need to pair a powerful raspberry pi compute module with a couple FPGA's in a board designed to maximize the benefits of both.

>> No.7937374

>>7937317
Most of the logic for the link cable is already done in GBA2P. Some guy just has to work with him to make it a reality, apparently blue1 might be.

>> No.7937381

>>7937317
>funky-looking dual GBA link port adapter
They'd need to somehow be vertically stacked or have both connectors sideways due to the Gamecube link cables having those plastic tumors on them.

>> No.7937457

absolute trash

>> No.7937518

>>7936259
This is the sort of thing mister was originally intended to do and where it could really work well. If everything is working internally you can connect the required nets to I/O and wire up an original connector. Unfortunately too many development resources are devoted to filters and LCD shit to realize it's full potential.

>> No.7938357

>>7937457
I agree. PC's are better for emulation.

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7939245

>>7938357
Wrong.

>> No.7940465

Atari Video Pinball dedicated console core never

>> No.7940508 [DELETED] 

>>7905001
faked his death

>> No.7941826

>>7939245
>Wonderswan runs at 75Hz
What really? Neat I guess but that's a weird thing to do.