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7859962 No.7859962 [Reply] [Original]

It is going to be part of their "pixel remaster" series
It's unclear but it looks like it is going to get boosted visuals similar to the FF1&2 wonderswan ports
Wonder if they are using the FF3 wonderswan remake that wasn't released?

>> No.7859963

>>7859962
trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5evm8hjmt8Y

>> No.7859971

>>7859962
>Wonder if they are using the FF3 wonderswan remake that wasn't released?
I certainly hope so.

>> No.7859975

>>7859963
It's dumb, I usually don't think of myself as a fanboy of anything, but even hearing that small clip of Theme From Final Fantasy gives me a slight chill. I really do love the series and look forward to this purely for that reason. I hopes it's good.

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>>7859962
I don't think so, the sprite work seems pretty different. I'd be surprised if they even still had the source code for the WonderSwan version
I kinda like the 3D remake but it's nice that something more (seemingly) faithful is coming to English officially.

>> No.7860017

>>7859971
>>7860004
Nigga FF3 WS would be like two decades old. More, even.
You are absolutely fucking crazy if you genuinely think Square kept any of that shit to this day, specially since they're well known for being AWFUL at archiving their shit back then.
That said, I'm extremely hype as a rare FF3fag (true) at how FF3 is finally getting it's so long denied 2D remake.

>> No.7860043
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7860043

cue console children complaining

>> No.7860360

>>7860043
Meh, even console players have phones, haha.

>> No.7860365

>>7860360
The game is probably going to run on a toaster

>> No.7860403

>>7860043
Imagine wanting to play on consoles and not on platforms that already have releases/remakes of these and easy access to emulation.

>> No.7860404

>>7860043
Eh I have Nvidia shield tv

>> No.7860442
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7860442

People have been pretty up in arms about the visual changes. Honestly I don't see a problem. With it coming to PC, it'll probably be pretty easy to change the sprites

>> No.7860520

>>7859962
So how much is going into these? Just the base games, or will extras from previous re-releases be included? If so, how does that affect FFIII as that one never had a proper 2D redux?

>> No.7860526

>>7860520
No idea, the trailer barely has any images of FF3 in it. But what we can see as posted in OP looks like a touch-up to make it look like a 16-bit entry

>> No.7860532

>>7860526
I get that. I'm talking about whether or not this FFIII will adapt the extras from the 3D release into the 2D format, assuming it and the other games will include extras at all. So far, I want to keep an eye on this and see how it turns out.

>> No.7860536

>>7860532
The FFIV 3D release didn't adapt the GBA extras so I don't see why the reverse would be true.

>> No.7860539

>>7860043
Just check the youtube comments, holy shit.

>> No.7860542

>>7860536
FFIV for DS was an entirely different game compared to the normal 2D release, and they're clearly sticking with the 2D one for this version.

>> No.7860685

>>7860536
I think the PSP version did though.

>> No.7860723

>>7860043
I unironically hope IV comes with TAY

>> No.7860801

>>7860043
>android
>iphone
they're going to be shit. i don't even care about a console release because i emulate with a wii to crt, so i'd just play the originals, but mobile game is a bad omen.

>> No.7860849

I hope 6 has the GBA content while keeping audio and other things consistent. 6 has never really had a solid rerelease. This probably won't be it either, but I can hope.

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>android has that junk HD rebake of VI
>gets this too
wtf is a "pixel remaster" anyway

>> No.7860864

>>7860856
>The Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster series sees the first six incredible adventures get a pixel-perfect makeover
I'm guessing this means the sprites won't be smoothed over like the previous ports.

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>>7860043
>>7860539
>why is this not on consoles?
Literally the whole comment feed

>> No.7861058

>>7860043
Its shit. Because what that means is the mobile versions are the primary version (aka riddled with really shit mobile assets, generic font and touch based menus) and the steam release will jist be a straight port with all the mobile shit still there just like everyone other one of Square's steam ports

Which doesn't give me much hope for these

>> No.7861143

>>7859962
I guess Fire Emblem 1 sold well then?

>> No.7861158
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Oh wait these don't actually look half bad. Fuck ton better than those shit mobile versions

Alright I'm on board

>> No.7861194

>>7861158
If this is what they look like I'll pick them up on PC.

>> No.7861256

Or use the existing roms and play those.

>> No.7861440

>>7861158
Looks like the PSP versions of IV and FFI
mitebcool

>> No.7861503
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7861503

>>7861158

>> No.7861515

>>7861503
Pretty good and actually prefer the new FF1 Fighter sprite to the PS1 sprite.

>> No.7861602

>>7861503
Could be a little more detailed, but they seem to hit a decent compromise between making them look good and making them look right.

FFI Fighter actually matches his original sprite now. "I like swords."

>> No.7861754

>>7860043
I genuinely wish this was also getting a release on consoles but I'll settle with the Steam version.

>> No.7861762

>>7861754
They will end up on Switch eventually.

>> No.7861774

>>7861503
I was expecting much worse so I can’t complain.

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7861891

>>7861503
so it's like a half-ass in between of the original and the ios ports

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>>7861058
Doesn't look that way. I mean of course there'll be touchshit controls but maybe that's not the only option.

>> No.7862150

>>7861910
>touchshit

>Requiring precision controls
>for turn based RPGs

are you high?

>> No.7862193

>>7862150
Who the fuck are you quoting, scramblebrain? Lay off the pot.

>> No.7862196

>>7862150
Not him but yes

>> No.7862205

>>7860043
I am a little surprised that it isn't coming out on the Nintendo Switch. I figure that the Japanese market would be interested in that.

>> No.7862256

nice, I've been avoiding ds version for years

>> No.7863152

do not look as good as the originals but worth buying

>> No.7863175

I still can't get through FF2. It's system is too grindy. I've played SaGa games and they're way better, they got it so wrong in FF2.

>> No.7863182

>>7863175
Anon, NO ONE likes FF2 and no one plays it because the core fundamentals of the game are broken. No amount of remakes will fix that game unless it gets the FF7 Remake treatment.
The PSP version is the least bad of a fundamentally broken and bad game.

>> No.7863191

>>7863175
FF2 isn't really grindy if you know how its mechanics work, but they're poorly conveyed
Most armor actually nerfs your characters

>> No.7863238

>>7863182
I like FF2. It's not grindy, it's not broken, you're just too dumb to figure out the system.

>> No.7863263

>>7863182
the gba version of ff2 is both playable and enjoyable, i beat it last month

>> No.7863285

>>7863238
FF2's dungeons are a mess. There's no defending all the empty rooms that exist just to waste your time.

>> No.7863296

>>7863191
I think the whole growth system is a good idea but they really overdid it with how many things have to be leveled up individually. There should just be general white magic/black magic skills rather than each spell having its own level. It just makes late acquisitions either pointless or forced grinds.

>> No.7863303

>>7863296
I agree with that bit, the spell system is bad at least in the famicom original. Later ports/remakes smooth it out a lot more and I don't remember it being near as tedious

>> No.7863304

>>7863285
Oh you mean that half a second it takes to walk in and walk out with a 50/50 chance to have to kill a trash mob?

It's not great, but it's a dungeon not a theme park. It's supposed to be perilous

>> No.7863314

>>7863303
Late acquisitions are still crap even in those versions though. The whole Ultima plot is basically for nothing kek

>> No.7863373

>>7860723

Can only buy the HD/3d ports so far and having the Wii original would be great.

>> No.7863446

Not to be that fag but do we have any details? Curious if "remaster" means original versions, bugs and all?

>> No.7863454

>>7863446
No details at all

>> No.7863460

>>7863446
So far we know they're keeping the original magic system for 1 which means no MP. That suggests a lot seeing as how they specifically changed it from GBA onwards to function with MP.

I haven't played NES/PS1 FF1 but I always hear they're brutally hard and better for it in comparison to the lower difficulty of the other games. If that's the philosophy going into FF1 I think we can expect original difficulty for other games that would greatly impact them like FF4 for example.

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>>7863460
>So far we know they're keeping the original magic system for 1 which means no MP
That is pretty rad.

>> No.7863574

>wanting remakes or remasters
Go back to /v/ you cancerous subhumans

>> No.7863726

>>7860043
I have a hacked switch thankfully, which can run Android.

Fuck Square Enix i'll do it myself.

>> No.7863768

I really want to see what ff5 and ff6 will turn out like. not really excited for any of the rest. might pick them all up if it comes at a bundle or something

>> No.7863780

>>7860043
Square will force (((Denuvo))) on the PC version.

>> No.7863782

>>7863182
>Anon, NO ONE likes FF2 and no one plays it because the core fundamentals of the game are broken
There's literally zero difference between FF2's skill/weapon-usage-leveling system, and Elder Scrolls games.

>> No.7863793

>>7863782
isn't it like world of warcraft?
the more you use a weapon the more the skill improves?

>> No.7863805

>>7863793
never played Warcraft because it's for casuals

>> No.7863809

>>7863805
you've never played it and you claim this info from where again?
its as casual as baldurs gate or elder scroll and even final fantasy games so take that as you will

>> No.7863813

I’d be really happy if they continued to add more optional post game content like they did for the GBA ports. More content is always a good thing.

>> No.7863898

>>7863238
>>7863304
Stop trying to look like such an intellectual liking a shit game.

>> No.7863905

>>7863782
Yeah I remember how I had to hit myself in TES to level my HP up.

>> No.7863908

>>7863905
Oh I guess you forgot that you're supposed to take hits from enemies to level up HP. Kind of like how you need to take hits to level up your armour skills in TES but sure, you tried.

>> No.7863919

>>7859963
This looks like the PSP treatment. Bleh, but probably better than the Octopath treatment that DQ3 is getting.

>> No.7863923

>>7860043
>It's Mobileshit
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.7863924

>>7863908
Are you really comparing getting attacked normally by enemies with literally hitting yourself and allies?

>> No.7863932

>>7861158
>That HUD
>"Muh fast forward feature for ADHD zoomers"
Looks like dogshit.
Sprites will be barely animated once again, just like in the originals.

>> No.7864152

>>7863932
I don't know why you would be against a fast forward option in a JRPG. I don't think it's very necessary for the original 6 games admittedly since there isn't much to skip, but in the FF7 ports it's a lifesaver since so many animations, loading into battles, etc takes so goddamn long.

Granted you turn right around and complain about the sprites not being animated very much like the original games so I have no idea what you would even want them to be doing.

>> No.7864201

>>7863932
>Sprites will be barely animated once again, just like in the originals.
And that's a Good Thing.

>> No.7864245

>>7863460
FF1 isn't brutally hard, just harder than the later games.
For instance you could only save in the overworld by expending a tent/cottage. Saving or resting in dungeons was impossible. You also had to think about aiming your attacks so you don't waste an action on a finished enemy.

>> No.7864253

FF3 is harder then FF1.

>> No.7864356

>Thief has blue hair
SOUL

>> No.7864498

>>7860043
At least its not epic exclusive

>> No.7864696

>>7859963
Why don't they just port the PSP versions of FF I & II to the PC wtf

>> No.7864714

>>7861891
Yeah, that's how it feels to me too. I'm not really hyped but we'll see.

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>>7861158
Looks great but I really hate the font

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wtf is this no fucking thanks i stick to the gba and psp versions of final fantasy 1 and 2

>> No.7864851

>>7861891
>half-ass
>implying the iOS port sprites don't look like complete shit

>> No.7864853
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7864853

>>7864836
>wtf is this
A more faithful update of the original sprite.

>> No.7864857
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7864857

>>7864853
this one looks way better

>> No.7864876
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>>7864857
What does Monk have to do with Thief?

>> No.7864897

>>7864876
zoomzooms have never looked at an 8-bit game and are convinced that THEIR remake is the original

>> No.7864910

>>7864876
lmao why would they change the beautiful thief sprite back to this abomination who the fuck will buy this game? does square really think oh yeah the og ff 1 fanboys from 1987 will buy our game on their phone? hell no zoomers will buy this shit and will think the same as me why change it back to the original ugly sprites when you just port the psp versions to the pc and phones

makes no sense because there is also the psp games on the phone wtf square really wtf

>> No.7864915

>>7864910
>MUH PSP
no one cares about your 20 year old remake lardo

>> No.7864919

>>7864910
>why would they change the beautiful thief sprite back to this abomination
Because the entire premise of the Pixel Remaster is to make all the graphics more faithful to the original games.

>> No.7864948

>>7864919
this argument literally makes no sense since these games will play like the ps1 or gba versions and not like the nes version so why make the demake the sprites but keep the current gameplay from gba and ps1? like i said these sprite choices make on sense it just looks ugly af and thats all

>> No.7864965

>>7864948
The PS1 and GBA versions already exist. These sprites are new. They're catering to the people who have been screaming on the internet for years about the mobile ports ruining the graphics.

>> No.7864979

>>7864965
>They're catering to the people who have been screaming on the internet for years about the mobile ports ruining the graphics
yeah but these are FF V and VI and not FF I and II
so again wtf are you talking about? not one single soul complained about the sprites in 1 and 2 since they are beautiful since fucking wonderswan
NOBODY asked for FF I and II to have these ugly ass NES sprites with all the gameplay changes from the PS1 and GBA versions NOBODY
and again these two games are already on the phone in their best form (PSP)
why would anyone buy these two ugly versions on their phone over the PSP versions? this makes no sense AT ALL
>gameplay from ps1 and gba
>ONLY port the protagonist sprites from the NES version
>make the hud uglier
BOOM two *brand new* versions of the same game that is already over 12 years in the apple store
if they really wanted to make something good they would have just ported the psp versions of 1 and 2 to the pc and be done with it and focus on 3, 5 and 6

>> No.7864991

>>7864979
>these are FF V and VI and not FF I and II
Why only redo two of them when you can redo all of them? It's better marketing to say you reworked all 6 games.

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>>7859962
>>7859963
For those who didn't catch everything due the footage size, here's what we can expect...
>Upscaled Origins-esque visual style in general, with character and monster designs looking like more direct renditions of classic sprites (classes are obvious examples but look closely at Garland and Adamantoise).
>Recent logos for I-III, original logos for IV-VI.
>FF (Fast-Forward) button spotted several times, making grinding less tedious.
>Final Fantasy battles lack MP and instead show your turn's action, suggesting the MP system from DoS-onward has been reverted to the original spell charge system as intended.
>Cecil is show to move diagonally at a point or two in FFIV's overworld, so 8-directional movement looks to be carries over.
>Minimaps are available like later games in the series.
>UI seems to be classic and not mobile.
>Opens with OG music and graphics, which MIGHT imply a music/graphics toggle (not 100% for sure).
>Weirdly enough, Rydia appears as a child in FFIV footage, but this may be a placeholder.
>Mobile and Steam only..for now.
No word yet on remake extras or which translations but honestly most of these features already won me over.

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>>7864991
>redo
but thats my point the didn't redo anything on these two games besides changing these the sprites into ugly...
and because of this reason the pc will never have the beautiful psp versions but is now stuck with a mixed abomination version of nes sprites with gba gameplay lol
>2021 you still have to emulate psp games to play the definitive version of 1 and 2

>> No.7865004

>>7864997
>they didn't redo anything
>except the sprites
So they redid something?

>> No.7865006

>>7863182
>NO ONE likes FF2

lol shut up 1 and 2 are the best classic FFs

>> No.7865010

>>7865004
no, they DEmaked something

>> No.7865013

>>7864997
Except this version has the proper FF1 magic system and no one cares about 2.

>> No.7865015

>>7865006
but only the gba and psp versions

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>>7865006
>1 and 2 are the best classic FFs

>> No.7865019

>>7865013
>this version has the proper FF1 magic system
said who?
>dude trust me

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7865020

>>7864910
>just port the psp versions to the pc and phones
I dunno, SOME people dislike the PSP versions too, and it's refreshing if these are really from-scratch remakes and not ports of ports of ports of ports.

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>>7864997
You've always had to emulate the definitive version of FF1 because romhacks can't be applied to NES carts.

>> No.7865036

>>7865018
1 and 2 not 1+2.

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7865042

>>7865019
Hi, over here >>7864996
It's a pretty basic observation if you've played previous versions.

>> No.7865043

>>7865032
Good hacking + rep cart

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>>7865020
>refreshing from-scratch remake
nigga what?

>> No.7865061

>>7865054
Seeing them compared I really prefer the new sprites over the GBA and PSP sprites and yeah it's because they look like the NES designs.

>> No.7865068

>>7865061
I bet you won't buy these refreshing from-scratch remakes anyway

>> No.7865070

>>7865061
I also prefer the remaster sprites. My only tiny gripe is that we don't get redhead white mage. I know her hair is probably only red in the NES game because of palette limitations, but it's still iconic.

>> No.7865082 [DELETED] 

>>7865020
yeah the psp version of iv was really kinda ugly but i and ii where perfect

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>>7865054
You read me. The current 2D versions trace their engines back to the WonderSwan Color, with incremental tweaks and coats of paint along the way, some bigger than others. We'll see what's up when the Pixel Remasters of I-II+IV release, but from the looks of things they're divorced from that lineage.

>> No.7865086

>>7865083
dude it the same fucking game just in ugly and worse wtf are you talking about?

>> No.7865096

>>7865086
>just in ugly and worse
No one cares about your shit taste.

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>>7865020
>ports of ports of ports of ports
So it's like the modern releases of the Sonic Adventure games. Never thought that Sonic fans had more sense than FF fans, but here we are...

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>lets not port these beautiful versions of 1 and 2 to the pc no lets "remake" them in this half assed collection for phones and pc because we hear complaints about the cheap ass trash ports of 5 and 6 for way too long now this will show them hehe
>these faggots just can't appreciate the beauty of our phone ports hehe
fuck anyone who really thinks the new versions of ff1 and 2 are any good

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>>7865096

>> No.7865116

That's cool, we get to revisit FF before it became a total dumpster fire

The bigger question to me is whether or not FF1 will use the newer magic system, and if they'll be rebalancing it at all. I would hope that if 1 then 2, but I bet it will just be identical to whatever the last release was (PSP I think)

>> No.7865125

>>7865116
It's been pointed out earlier that the MP indicator is gone in battle, meaning we're back to basics baby.

>> No.7865131

>Steam, Apple, Google Play
This is the opposite of what to do to make money

>> No.7865140

>>7865131
don't worry anon, they'll make sure to include microtransactions for buying exp/gil :^)

>> No.7865159

Fuck FF3 frustrating piece of shit game. Here's another mini dungeon, faggot, have fun being unable to use half your shit. Frog dungeon next.

>> No.7865453

>>7865102
That shit looked like ass my dude. Basing things on the original graphics with a light tuneup is much much better

>> No.7865583

The only thing I'm iffy on is that it's only steam/mobile apparently.

>> No.7865592

>>7865032
what is an everdrive

>> No.7865598

>>7861503
>Rosa and Terra get bigger boobs
I'm okay with this.

>> No.7865615

>>7865159
God you are so stupid you can just go back to normal almost immediately

>> No.7865638

>>7865592
Hardware emulation.

>> No.7865853

>>7863263
GBA version is super easy and looks terrible, but psp version is actually great... although having to level each spell individually is bullshit

>> No.7865858

>>7863296
exactly this, there should have been like 5 or 6 schools of magic and it would be completely fixed

>> No.7866019

>>7865453
>>7865109

>> No.7866031

>>7865638
meds

>> No.7866047

>>7866031
education: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_emulation

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7866089

>>7861503
SNES sprites were what, 16x32? Technically two of 16x16 joined together but I digress. New ones seem to have bigger size.
>>7861891
The dream should be to have sprites with Brave Exvius level of detail
(site won't let me post APNG and the GIF format eats up a bit of the quality)

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>>7865020
Psp remake of 4 is pretty bad. I like the PSP remakes of 1 and 2 though.

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>>7860043
>cue console children complaining
It's going to work on your old computer, it's not like you need a $2000 tranny GPU.
Oh that's right. There are zoomers who only have a phone/tablet and game consoles. They literally don't have a computer. These fags actually exist.

>> No.7868410

>>7865131
Outside of your bubble more people play on mobile than anything else combined. They'll probably do fine.

>> No.7868420

>>7868031
>$2000 tranny GPU
4chan has poisoned your brain

>> No.7868427

Will they tweak the crystal tower?

>> No.7868496

>>7868427
I'm sure the remaster will allow saving anywhere

>> No.7869525

>>7868427
Not a chance. The 3D FFIII didn't change the very limited rule of saving on the overworld only, so what chance does this version have? At best, they'll allow quick-saves that self-delete when you resume them.

>> No.7869650

>>7865032
Literally just finished Final Fantasy II Restored on my front loader NES with an Everdrive.

>> No.7869671

>>7869650
Everdrives are hardware emulation. You didn't apply that hack to an NES cart for FF2.

>> No.7869826
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7869826

>>7863924
You don't have to hit yourself to level up your HP stats. This opinion comes straight from ecleb reviews of the game. And its one of the easier FF games and the story is quite good especially for the time.
The first time I played through the game I didn't know about the hitting yourself meme and finished the game with very little grinding. I also didn't make much use of spells overall either and mostly kept leveling up spells just to see what the higher powered versions of the spell effect graphics looked like. When I realized that leveling up spells took forever I gave up.
There are flaws that could be fixed for sure. But the hitting yourself meme is a stupid one to fixate on.

>> No.7869862

>>7869826
FFL is a better version of FF2

>> No.7869964

>>7863932
Boomer here, can't play jrpgs without having a fast forward button anymore. Even if the game doesnt have it, i have to rig it with cheat engine to go fast.

>> No.7870360

>>7859962
onion knight always looked like a crying soi boi

hate him

>> No.7870365

>>7859962
Wait, it's not coming out on any consoles? Really? Not even Switch? Just PC? That's bizzare.

>> No.7870730

>>7869671
>nitpicking and autism. You have to spend money or you didn’t really play the game.

>> No.7870761

>>7870730
I never said you didn't really play the game, you're just projecting some bullshit other people said to you onto me. I was saying that NES FF1 with the Restored patch is the real definitive way to play so it requires emulation. If anything, I'm supporting that emulation is not only a valid way to play, but the BEST POSSIBLE way to play. Everdrives are hardware emulation, which is what enables you to load a patched ROM, which makes it BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL CARTRIDGE.

>> No.7870867

>>7870761
...I’m sorry anon.

>> No.7871139

>>7859962
FF3 for Android is a masterpiece. Fuck a pixel perfect version.

>> No.7871169

>>7859962
why couldn't they just use the same engine as octopath and actually give us a nice looking 2D FF3 that doesn't look like a filter on an emulator or a mobile cash grab

>> No.7871232

>>7870360
onion knight is a child

>> No.7872189
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7872189

>>7871139
The biggest crime about FFIII3D is that it had not one, not two, but roughly THREE opportunities to fix the monster limit problem that was worked around by FFIVDS.

>> No.7872247

>>7859962
This will probably be the definitive version of FF3, that 3D remake wasn't very good. As for 4-6, the sprites appear to be simplified a bit and, in the case of 6, overbrightened. So unless there are notable QOL improvements in these "Pixel Remasters" that they've said absolutely nothing about, the definitive versions of 4-6 will still be 4 PSP, 5 GBA, and 6 SNES Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition patch.

>> No.7872256

>>7863932
>Sprites will be barely animated once again, just like in the originals.
Now this really bothers me, even Dragon Quest started animating the enemy sprites on Super Famicom

>> No.7872262

>>7863782
Except Elder Scrolls games are fully 3D and significantly more interactive. In Final Fantasy 2 these individually levellable skills are all just options on a menu, so there's no tangible difference between them.

>> No.7872272

>>7861503
Each game losing it's own visual identity is really just awful. If you're not familiar with the games already how would you know a screenshot from FF4 from FF1?

>> No.7872273

>>7863460
The PS1 version on Easy is the best way to play FF1, unironically. It lowers the cost of items and raises the amount of EXP from battles but changes nothing else, cutting down significantly on tedious grinding while leaving everything else alone, including the original magic system.

>> No.7872295

>>7865453
They already did that on PS1. It's slightly more of an upgrade than the upcoming "Pixel Remaster", but only slightly.

>> No.7872459

>>7860043
>>7868031
>muh PC master race
Kill yourselves.

>> No.7872471

>>7859962
is this worth playing if you've played FFV?

>> No.7872551
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7872551

>remakes
What the fuck happened???

>> No.7872553

>>7860360
>doesn't and will never have a phone

>> No.7872558

>>7872551
>shades
I will never understand people who can't interpret pixel art correctly.

>> No.7872559

>>7872553
Who are you quoting?

>> No.7872561

>>7872558
COPE

>> No.7872564

>>7872559
Nobody? I'm saying I don't have a phone because I hate the goddamn things.

>> No.7872565

>>7872551
I hope the Pixel Remaster will give us back the true Black Wizard that was stolen from us.

>> No.7872574

>>7872561
Cope with what? Your inability to tell three pixel eyes/brows from shades?

>> No.7872596

>>7872574
Does it matter? This remake will likely make an exception to the whole "redo the original sprites" rule and just use the caped Black Mage from past remakes so as to maintain their self-imposed consistency.

>> No.7872621

>>7865018
I liked FF3 and thought it had some neat features for a Famicom RPG, but it loses in every way to 5. Job system in 3 is shit, you don't get most of the jobs until near the end of the game, then you are expected to sit at the last save point and grind up the 2 final jobs to make them not shit compared to your starting jobs. If the game gave out the jobs sooner(I don't mind the last 2 being end-game), then you might actually have a reason to use them instead of sticking with the first job you picked. This complaint is about the Famicom version, I haven't played any other.

>> No.7872741

>>7872471
It's different from 5; 3's not a "play it your way" game
In 3, jobs are more like equipment that you use when called for and they get obsoleted by better jobs later

>> No.7872752

>>7872621
>sit at the last save point and grind up the 2 final jobs to make them not shit compared to your starting jobs
huh, I never bothered to do that, the job exp (熟練度) thing seemed pretty negligible

>> No.7874157
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7874157

>>7872247
>Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition
Rodimus Primal is overrated and acquired normie sycophants for some reason. Revised Old Style Edition (ROSE) or even hairy_hen's retranslated patch in its current form are far superior and had actual effort put into them.

>> No.7874347
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7874347

>>7872596
Most likely. Take a look at Princess Sarah and Garland's overworld sprites. Garland did the whole "open helmet in overworld, closed helmet in battle" thing before Dark Knight Cecil, yet his face is still unseen like it was in the remakes. Princess Sarah is back to having pink instead of green hair like the NES version, but now has the yellow dress she has in more recent spinoffs. Part of the goal of the Pixel Remasters will be to re-establish a unified look for the older games instead of the current modernization mess, and while the classic sprites will be the main reference, it'll also look to other interpretations.

>> No.7874696

>>7874157
>Revised Old Style Edition (ROSE) or even hairy_hen's retranslated patch
Are these the ones that do retarded shit like renaming "Espers" to "Phantom Beasts" and strip away all personality by taking out lines like "son of a submariner"?

>> No.7874742

>>7874157
What crawled up your butt and made you hate Rodimus? Relax bro

>> No.7874760

>>7874696
>strip away all personality by taking out lines like "son of a submariner"
Good riddance.

>> No.7874801
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7874801

>>7874696
You're thinking of the SkyRender/RPGOne version, which everyone, even the original author now, agrees was extremely awful*. If you want a taste of what ROSE and hairy_hen do, check out https://silentenigma.neocities.org/ff6rose/ff6rose-dialog-info.html for ROSE or https://pastebin.com/RyVqkRnY for hairy_hen.
*Well, the one good thing about it was that it was a patch for the unaltered Japanese ROM if you want that unique experience and made enhancements and fixes completely optional, but unfortunately the script itself was so bad that it, along with other infamous ones like ZEALITY's Chrono Trigger retranslation, made newer hackers go in the entirely opposite direction, for better or worse.
>>7874742
Rodimus is a known self-absorbed weasel who always announces a "major update" to his version whenever he feels threatened that someone else's project is about to outdo him, which they nearly invariably do except in Dr. Meat's case, but he actually barely does anything worthwhile each time. That obvious mistake (should be "You can talk?" instead of "Can you talk!?"), for instance, is unbelievably STILL present last I checked.

>> No.7874805

>>7864996
>Cecil is show to move diagonally at a point or two in FFIV's overworld, so 8-directional movement looks to be carries over.
Thank god. I love Final Fantasy VI but the four-directional movement is sooo stiff.

>> No.7874810

>>7874157
I barely even know who the fuck Rodimus Primal is you obsessed autist. Please find something other to do than seethe over romhackers on the internet.

>> No.7874814

>>7874760
Literal translation faggots are the worst. "Oh no, it's flavor in the script that wasn't there in the original! Muh 27 year old RPG's artistic integrity!"

>> No.7874831
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7874831

>>7874157
>>7874801
wtf? why is this guy so obsessed

>> No.7874849

>>7872189
God this is the whiniest shit I've ever read with some of the weakest complaints, this guy certainly posts here too I bet.

>> No.7874858
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7874858

>>7874831

>> No.7874860

>>7872564
>tfw will never get a call from based departament

>> No.7874862

>>7874858
That nigger is most definitely one person

>> No.7874893

>>7874157
>Revised Old Style Edition (ROSE)
I like the text-resizing it uses so that there's less weird abbreviations.

>> No.7874938

>>7874831
>>7874862
Huh. The fact that I can only claim the posts with Final Fantasy IV screenshots means that I know that you're wildly off the mark. I admit I did borrow the "Can you talk?!" talking point from another anon (not the same post in this totally-not-obsessive image, you've missed it, though I can't say if that was the same anon) since it seemed like a very braindead obvious example, but other than that, no. Unfortunately for you, there's definitely more than one of us, sorry to shatter your theory. But believe what you want to believe if it helps you. As an aside, I'm curious how you can defend that "Theodor" crap being in my "true to the original" 16-bit Final Fantasy IV.

>> No.7874993
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7874993

>Have the PSP versions of 1, 2, and 4 right there
>Instead of making 3, 5, and 6 in the PSP style they just redraw everything again
>The new sprites in the Pixel Collection are a sidegrade at best
We could have had 3, 5, and 6 looking like this.

>> No.7875041

>>7874993
disgusting

>> No.7875045

>>7874993
>We could have had 3, 5, and 6 looking like this.
That looks terrible.

>> No.7875085

>>7874858
He has the same posting style and weird complaints about this Rodimus guy having a legion of normie fanboys every time though

>> No.7875119
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7875119

>>7874993
and you just posted the most ugly version of them, i personally only think 1 and 2 look good on the psp, 4 looks like fucking trash, the same goes for the gba i think 1 and 2 look the best 4, 5 and 6 are fine but definitely not on the level as 1 and 2 i don't know what it is but probably because these two are "remastered" they look the best to me

but you are right about the part with square could just port 1 and 2 from the psp to pc but they probably don't do it since the psp version 1 and 2 are already on mobile and so they can't cash grab on a new version of these two and they now most pc players just pirate anyways so they would had two less games for mobile where people have to buy their games in order to play them

still really stupid

>> No.7875126

>>7871169
>octopath
>doesn't look like a filter on an emulator

>> No.7875202

>>7875085
As samey as those arguments are, the fact that there's like three different opinions on where Dr. Meat's patch stands in relation to the others should probably tip you off that your assertion might be wrong. Now I don't remember the deets, but I distinctly recall one of the popular FFIV/VI romhackers getting some shit here on /vr/ for some of his bs reactions to other peoples' hacks. It could be this Rodimus guy, didn't pay enough attention to the drama to know since I didn't care at the time. But if it is the same person, that would explain why a couple anons don't like him.

>> No.7875210

>>7875202
Thats too much charitability. Different positions from samefags wouldn't be impossible, they are inherently contradictory people.

>> No.7875271

>>7875210
>samefags[...]are inherently contradictory people.
Yeah, no, two things wrong with this: 1) if samefags were so contradictory, then with that logic, you can denounce just about any anon as a samefag, and 2) these appear to be from wholly different threads, so even if that really was all one poster (which the one here has claimed denial), that, by definition, is NOT samefagging - in fact, YOU'RE the one in the wrong for tracking anon/s across multiple threads.

>> No.7875554

All 6 games are already on mobile and steam, what's the point?

>> No.7875586

>>7875554
at least 3 of them are ugly af and unplayable because of this sooooooooo