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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last Thread: >>7839532

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct
OP PASTE
https://pastebin.com/TWNE3nZZ

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Half-Life WON version
https://pastebin.com/4Hva72v7
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

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=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Hard Fast Faggot Maps v 1.0
https://x0.at/OGg.zip
idgames/doomworld release TBD

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Project Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
Latest update: >>7839669

=== NEWS ===
[6-8] Realm667 deleted, archiving ongoing:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/122559-repository-dump

[6-7] Corruption Cards 2.0 has been released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67939

[6-6] Simple Quake Launcher 2.5 released
https://github.com/m-x-d/Simple-Quake-Launcher-2/releases/tag/2.5

[6-4] UT99 retrospective by LGR
https://youtu.be/XRF06DpQE0c

[6-2] DBP36: Aquatic Wonder has been released
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2139/dbp36-aquatic-wonder

[6-2] vkQuake has been updated, fixing an issue with dynamic lights
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/tag/1.05.3

[5-31] floatRand released beta for Delirium (boom-mapset)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/122268-delirium-boom-mapset-cl9-beta/

[5-30] Complevel MBF21 released and integrated into DSDA-Doom
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/122323-mbf21-specification-v10-release/

[5-30] DF Retro covers Quake
https://youtu.be/0KxRXZhQuY8

[5-27] Zones of Fear updated to version 2.0
https://www.moddb.com/mods/zones-of-fear

[5-25] Combined Arms updated to 2.3
https://combine-kegan.itch.io/combined-arms

[5-22] GZDoom 4.6.0 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=72359

[5-21] DavidN announces RAMP community project
[YouTube] Announcing RAMP - An all-comers Doom mapping project (embed)

[5-21] Tarnsman's Projectile Hell released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/122115-megawad-tarnsmans-projectile-hell-release/

[5-19] Abandonware anon launches website for his releases
https://youtu.be/EtNjkF20yHI

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

>> No.7844627

HFFM on idgames when?

>> No.7844630
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why is rampancy so good bros.

>> No.7844631 [DELETED] 

>>7844627
when it's done, kek

>> No.7844632

>>7844610
Because creating secrets with well-designed environmental cues is actually a lot of work compared to the low effort slop we got from id. Compare the lovingly crafted levels in arcane dimensions, for example, to what quake shipped with. Big fucking yikes.

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>> No.7844635 [DELETED] 

why did the darkplaces guy become a tranny?

>> No.7844636

>>7844615
>TRY INVADING THE REALITIES OF HUMANS NOW YOU FUCKING STUPID BITCH!

>> No.7844637

>I forgot to put the pound signs
FUCK. new trip. 1.1 will be released tomorrow and then i'm done updating

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crucified for making shit maps

>> No.7844664

>>7844632
the lovingly crafted foggy bogbottom, and the well thought-out idea of tucking away an essential progression item somewhere stupid, yes

>> No.7844675

>>7844664
That was horseshit and a half. FB is one of the top maps of AD, but the book finding for the rune is godawful.

>> No.7844680

Quake Champions is eh but I really like Ranger's voice.

>> No.7844683

>>7844630
The Marathon conversion for Half-Life? Was it ever released?

>> No.7844690

Rip, Torm nuked the site as well. At least recovery process is underway, but man this sux.

>> No.7844702

>>7844690
That's why if you care about something enough, you archive it yourself. The guy behind quaddicted freely encourages people to back up the stuff hosted there.

>> No.7844719

Kinda interesting to see Mark be a voice of reason.

>> No.7844731

isn't everything that was on term's site technically just on sites like wadarchive and shit if you know what to look for? doomseeker might help too with the wad finder thing

>> No.7844737

>>7844638
How do you set that up to appear? This would be so much easier to spot during testing than a HoM.

>> No.7844739

>>7844731
>term's
how could term make such horribly offensive content? boobies...

>> No.7844754

>>7844690
What is this then? Is it inaccessible to you? Because for me it works perfectly fine. But yeah this should definitely be backed up into a torrent.
https://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/beastiary-mainmenu-136-69621

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>>7844680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYVWRjvjCgM

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Hola amigos! My name is El Atormentador, I am new to this community, and I have been a doomero since the 1990's.

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>>7844764
>flag
>complexion

>> No.7844779

>>7844764
This... Is pretty damn funny to me. You didn't tie it into the fleeing Nazi aesthetic enough though. Still get an A from me though.

>> No.7844787

>>7844779
That's a mate beverage and a traditional Argentinean hat. It's perfect.

>> No.7844798

>>7844763
Unironically 10x better than how he sounds in nu-Doom.

>> No.7844805

>>7844787
I get that, but the garb underneath should reflect that he's a ebil Nazi imo. Just doesn't look like he's hiding a specific enough attribute. But that's fine.

>> No.7844813

>>7844615
I'm gonna rip off your dick and shit down your balls

>> No.7844814

Does the Eternity engine have complevels?

>> No.7844815

>>7844638
>64 map
Nice.

>> No.7844823

>>7844798
he sounds like caleb

>> No.7844850

>>7844823
He sounds like a poor imitation of Caleb

>> No.7844851 [DELETED] 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfwslsbjtms

Lol at Torm actually releasing his fetishes as part of a mod. Apparently there is part where you torture and kill female nazis, and slowly their clothes get ripped off while they also get cut a part. This is some guro shit.

I mean everyone should have freedom of expression, but Torm is clearly fucked in the head by releasing this with his own name.

>> No.7844863 [DELETED] 

>>7844851
based torm

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>>7844851
>Apparently there is part where you torture and kill female nazis, and slowly their clothes get ripped off while they also get cut a part. This is some guro shit.

>> No.7844874

>>7844814
It has a -vanilla mode for vanilla compatibility. But I believe it only works with -warp as well. No mode for boom or mbf (though it can playback demos recorded in them, mostly without issues)
I think there are plans to add proper complevels in the future, though dunno if it's a priority for them.

>> No.7844876 [DELETED] 

>>7844851
Sounds pretty tame to what's in mainstream AAA vidya, anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyVHV7ct4gU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2VkxygqZ4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duGeSOWHBZA

>> No.7844883 [DELETED] 

>>7844867
That's like equivelant of telling that you wank off to lolicon on public stream to thousands of people, and yet thinking that is cool and people will love and worship you for it. Not a sane person would write book a worth of text of himself like he is some passed away super star and then release some fetish-mod as his main work.

Some anon releasing mod where you fuck dead corpses, laughing at it himself, and just seeing it as a shit mod. I see no problem with that. But what Torm did is just retarded.

>> No.7844886 [DELETED] 

>>7844851
It's kinda funny. If this was ALL there was to the mod, I doubt the drama would have gotten so bad, especially considering it was only hidden in the files. But there just had to be even more shit.

>> No.7844890 [DELETED] 

>>7844883
It's no different from publicly announcing that you enjoy eli roth or leigh whannell movies.

>> No.7844893 [DELETED] 

>>7844876
I didn't see the part where you actively torture Lara Croft as a protagonist off the game, and the part where Lara's boobs and pussy gets shown while she gets ripped open. Those Lara's death scenes are tame. Something you'd see in a mainstream horror movie.

>> No.7844901 [DELETED] 

>>7844851
I think you're overreacting.

>>7844890
This.

>> No.7844902 [DELETED] 

>>7844883
>That's like equivelant of telling that you wank off to lolicon on public stream to thousands of people
Sounds like an absolute gigachad.

>> No.7844905 [DELETED] 

>>7844890
There is difference with mainstream horror movies and some clearly fetishistic material.

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>>7844851
Why do you keep reposting this shit like anyone in this thread would be offended or outraged? I wouldn't give a fuck even if Nikocado Avocado's asshole was an enemy in his wad.

>> No.7844907

was torm the guy that made demonsteele?

>> No.7844909 [DELETED] 

>>7844893
>ultra hd torture porn, now at 144hz
>tame
>
>ultra low res, crude sprite torture porn
>won't someone think of the children!
The Saw franchise, for example, has made nearly a billion dollars at the box office, making it the third highest grossing horror franchise of all time, even though the content is EXCLUSIVELY torture porn. I don't think this sort of thing is nearly as unpopular as you think, people are clearly getting something perverse out of it.

>> No.7844910 [DELETED] 

>>7844876
There's no dismemberment in these, though

>> No.7844912

>>7844907
no that's term

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>>7844883
>That's like equivelant of telling that you wank off to lolicon on public stream to thousands of people, and yet thinking that is cool and people will love and worship you for it.

worked out for the berserk creator heh.

>> No.7844916 [DELETED] 

>>7844906
>Nikocado Avocado's asshole
a deep black hole of despair

>> No.7844918 [DELETED] 

>>7844901
I just find it amusing. I mean even I do have non-mainstream fetishes. I like drinking pee straight out pussy. But when I'm making my epic wad, that's my lifework, I won't include pee scene in it, and letting the whole world see that I'm the pee drinker guy. And that's not even so bad, because you can't get openly mentally crucified with pee fetish unlike guro fetish.

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On level 6, and while this is easily an improvement over doom, I really don't like these shitty mazelike levels. DF2, JK, and JK2 at least feel appropriately in-universe. I'm not impressed.
>>7844905
Many would argue that paying money to voyeuristically observe simulated torture isn't any different from actively participating in simulated torture.

>>7844918
If it makes you feel any better, I'd put all of you piss, shit, armpit, gore, and footfags up against a wall equally.

>> No.7844931

>>7844914
As I said, a true gigachad.

>> No.7844932

>Home stretch of mapping
>"Huh, why is that misaligned? Well let me just fix that really quick"
>"Wait, that's misaligned too? Oh no
>Oh no
>Oh nooooooooooooooooo"
And that's how I spent the last hour aligning textures.

>> No.7844934 [DELETED] 

>>7844893
>I didn't see the part
my understanding is that the sprites in question aren't even in the game?
this is like that stunt with naked Ellen Page in some David Cage game, except the usual suspects did all the Torm's work for him. hey, I might play BoA now, even though I expect it to be a hitscan fest.

>> No.7844935 [DELETED] 

>>7844906
I thought Torm's retard move was funny. That's why posted it. People defending him seem to more offended instead.

>>7844909
You aren't actively torturing Lara yourself. That's the difference. Also like I said, there is nothing wrong with mod itself. It's just how Torm treats it like his fetish mod is some second coming of Christ, and goes as far as removing his whole repository when getting pointed out. I don't get why would you go sucking his balls and defending him. He caused this crap for himself.

>> No.7844937 [DELETED] 

>>7844926
>If it makes you feel any better, I'd put all of you piss, shit, armpit, gore, and footfags up against a wall equally.
Yea. And there is nothing wrong with that. That's why there won't be pee drinking in my wad. Even I know that I'm fucked in the head.

>> No.7844938 [DELETED] 

>>7844851
This is what he's getting shitcanned for? Some video game violence?

>> No.7844940 [DELETED] 

>>7844918
You know, the only thing you've actually demonstrated is that 1; Torm put in a reference to Ilsa: She Wolf Of The SS (a famous Nazisploitation film), in his Wolfenstein fangame, and 2; that you've admitted to drinking piss.

So far, this reflects a lot worse on you.

>> No.7844941 [DELETED] 

>>7844851
isn't that what nazis deserve?

>> No.7844945 [DELETED] 

>>7844851
>Apparently there is part where you torture and kill female nazis
He had the good sense not to put that in the actual mod. They had to dig through the assets to find it.

>> No.7844948 [DELETED] 

>>7844938
There was also part where you kill jews at concentration camps, mocking Randi for her being a tranny, some racistic slurs and racistic satires and stuff. Torm could actually go jail for this since he is german, and the guy isn't even a politically on the right. He hates nazis. That's why it's funny as fuck.

>> No.7844949 [DELETED] 

>>7844935
You'd lose your shit if you ever saw Hatred.

>> No.7844953 [DELETED] 

>>7844940
>2; that you've admitted to drinking piss.
>So far, this reflects a lot worse on you.
Well doing this anonymously at least.

>> No.7844964 [DELETED] 

>>7844851
here's a thought: if this is such a shocking fetishistic guro porn, you really ought to report that video, since unlike the game, it's actually showing this supposedly awful graphic violence

>> No.7844965 [DELETED] 

>>7844948
>There was also part where you kill jews at concentration camps
They're zombies. The undead cannot practice Judaism.
>mocking Randi for her being a tranny
I know Randi and can confirm he's got a big cock.
>some racistic slurs and racistic satires and stuff
Terms and propaganda posters used during WW2 to dehumanize the enemy. Accurate to the time period it takes place in. Also, imagine being offended by "Jap".

>> No.7844969 [DELETED] 

>>7844949
I've seen it. There is nothing wrong with it. Only reason I haven't played it, is because it's too modern. It advertises itself as being edgy joke game. If it advertised itself like being part of some epic shooter series, than suddenly had scene about raping kids while joking about it, and it's creator getting bitchfit and removing all his good games too, because people saw this part as tasteless would be equal of this.

Also I actually want to play BoA trilogy because of this. I just think it's equally funny that Torm didn't expect this shitstorm, and equally annoying that Torm went such lenghts as removing his whole repository. But the guy's a fag like always.

>> No.7844970

>>7844627
It'll be added right after Blade of Agony.

>> No.7844972 [DELETED] 

>>7844948
Let's be accurate here; Torm is depicting jews/slavs murdered in the Holocaust, being reanimated as hostile zombies which the player has to kill.

As a concept, this could actually make for some great dark horror, but Torm obviously does it the awkward and stupid way.

>> No.7844973 [DELETED] 

>>7844964
Why would I report the video. I didn't even report the game. The whole shitstorm is funny and I want let it be there.

>> No.7844980 [DELETED] 

>>7844969
>I'm leaving now guys, bye!
>Sike!
>Wtf I'm getting kicked out
It's really funny that way.

>> No.7844981 [DELETED] 

>>7844948
>Torm could actually go jail for this since he is german
Go to jail for what?
I just downloaded it and right at the start it is established you are one of the good guys.
He didn't publish that stuff in Germany and even if he did, swastikas are not banned anymore in games, you play as an american and apart from some things that are arguably in bad taste, there is nothing about this that warrants any move on the feds' side.
If he tried to sell it, it would probably be banned for the violence+sex content, but that's it.
Stop parroting whatever bullshit you read here or elsewhere. I probably won't finish it though, since "story-driven", especially in a shooter, is a huge red flag.

That said, people seem to forget that Wolfenstein TNO also had a concentration camp level and besides not shooting zombie jews it was also done in the most tasteless and tacky way possible.

>> No.7844984 [DELETED] 

>>7844973
Perhaps it is your video?

>> No.7844990 [DELETED] 

>>7844981
Thank you for clarifying this, so people can stop yakking about that part.

>> No.7844992 [DELETED] 

>>7844984
Not mine. I have a cock. And it goes hard when I'm thinking of Major Arlene. (But not her maps.)

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>>7844972
Things jews find funny: jokes about genitally mutilating infants
Things jews don't find funny: doom mods :(((

Thanks rabbi.

>> No.7845003 [DELETED] 

>>7844948
>her

>> No.7845005 [DELETED] 

>>7844981
>and besides not shooting zombie jews it was also done in the most tasteless and tacky way possible
Was it? Infiltrating it, stabbing a bunch of the guards and staff, then breaking everyone out in a balls to the walls blaze of glory where you blast the infrastructure into pieces and gun down gnatzee troopers in droves, is I think the proper way that a series like Wolfenstein should do it.

>> No.7845014 [DELETED] 

>>7845003
her or him, whatever the case may be it'll always come back around to the fact that they have a big cock.

>> No.7845016 [DELETED] 

>>7844851
Okay, this convinces me to backup his shit.

>> No.7845020 [DELETED] 

>>7845005
>Infiltrating it
You mean by having to claw yourself out of an incinerator with other corpses?
Or the general idea of having a death camp level in the first place? BoA is clearly drawing from classic id and exploitation, but TNO was a mainstream game.

>> No.7845027 [DELETED] 

Does anybody have the map number for the death camp? I want to see for myself.

>> No.7845028 [DELETED] 

>post a twitter screencap of someone discussing a doom mod that is currently being discussed in the doom thread
>resident janny deletes it and puts in a pending request for a ban, as this shines a negative light on a certain eceleb
>"someone else" immediately posts about how their cock gets hard over said eceleb
>this is 100% on-topic and permitted in the doom thread
Hmm, I wonder who that simp could be. I'm so fucking sick of your selective bullshit every single time something comes up that is completely on topic and you just happen to dislike. You can't help but out yourself every time you pull this shit. Go ahead and sweep this one up too. Pull the fucking trigger.

>> No.7845031 [DELETED] 

>>7845028
>posting a twitter screencap
Should warrant an autoban, always.

>> No.7845036 [DELETED] 

>>7845028
>that is completely on topic and you just happen to dislike.
To be fair the pic was on-topic, but the text was usual /pol/-stuff about jews.

>> No.7845041 [DELETED] 

>>7845027
nvm found it.
My opinion: It's tasteless, but there is really nothing criminal (as by law) about this.
If you could actually kill the prisoners, it would be another thing, but they're just mobile obstacles here.
Also, he didn't even use the black-and-white striped prisoner uniforms.
Also also, I chuckle everytime I hear the MGS alert sound and when I burn someone, as he took that almost 1:1 from Blood.

>> No.7845048

>>7844616
https://github.com/Realm667/WolfenDoom/issues/793
Torm took Blade Of Agony 3 down "until the relevant issues are resolved."

>> No.7845063

>>7844719
It's actually fun to see mappers grow up. Remember the time when Xaser was a troll poster, who only put out joke wads? Now he's one of the top mappers and most calm and likeable guy on Doomworld.

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>>7845048
wew glad i downloaded it an hour ago

>> No.7845082 [DELETED] 

>boa discussion deleted
>el atormentador.jpg stays up
what's the matter with you, janny? will you at least now delete all forum drama discussions?

>> No.7845083

Hehe. After Impie's mod and BoA 3, it would perfect time to release hffm on Doomworld.

>> No.7845089

>>7845071
Mirror it.

>> No.7845092 [DELETED] 

>>7845082
El atormentador is funny. Don't be like that, anon.

>> No.7845094

>>7845083
who will be the sacrificial lamb to got banned for it though?

>> No.7845096

>>7845089
it's on moddb still: https://www.moddb.com/mods/wolfendoom-blade-of-agony/downloads

>> No.7845106 [DELETED] 

>>7845092
I find it funny too, but that's not the point. Either you ban all drama bullshit or you don't.

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I don't understand why one would support the dogpiling that BoA got unless you're a pro-censorship SJW shithead.

It doesn't mean you have to like the mod, consider it ''based'' or play it but when creators get dogpiled like that, it means less interesting TCs are going to be made because otherwise the troons will stomp them down and exile them from all mod communities.

This censorship and political correctness witch hunting just leads to more boring and bland modding community overall.

>> No.7845109

blood is my favorite game of all times

>> No.7845120

>>7845107
Like an anon said last thread, people don't play Scythe 2 because there's a level where you string up some trannies. Good TCs are not defined by how edgy they are. No need for this fearmongering.

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>>7845120
Did I imply all TCs / WADs need to be 'edgy to be good'?
No.
But just saying it greatly limits the range of what people can do. Hell, the BUILD GENRE CLASSICS are charming as they are because of the ''problematic'' content like the anime girls of Shadow Warrior or Lo Wang's comments.
Obv SoiWorld is a private run entity so they have the right to run their site down but I definitely don't agree with the sentiments the site is running with.

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>>7845109
there are some better games

>> No.7845158

>>7845134
>Did I imply all TCs / WADs need to be 'edgy to be good'?
Okay, here.
>Interesting TCs are not defined by how edgy they are
>But just saying it greatly limits the range of what people can do
How many Doom TCs did you play in 2020 that were defined by anime girls, hot nude ladies, or the protagonist saying "THOSE REAL TITS?!" You're just fearmongering.

>> No.7845210

>>7845158
I mean here I'm witnessing a DOOM TC being taken down and it's creator demonized because it did some Wolfenstein-y naziploitation.
>Fearmongering
Is it ''fearmongering'' when it's freshly happening?

>> No.7845228

>>7845107
Admit it, even you would shat on BoA because of bad gameplay, even more bad map design, uneven artstyle which was mix of sprites and 3d models, and the fact that it wasn't optimized well even for modern computers. You just solely started caring about, because it was edgy. And it's not like that you couldn't make edgy wads anymore. You can, but just don't post them on mainstream site, that doesn't want be associated with those. Also the times haven't really changed. It's not like Grezzo 2 was well received in older times.

>> No.7845229

Anyway maybe this discussion is getting tired. What are yall playing in terms of retro shooters / wads?
Going through Thy Flesh Consumed here.

>> No.7845231

>>7845210
Yeah I got too loose le track. My primary point is that edgy does not always equal interesting, and that good/interesting TCs are rarely as edgy as BoA, so nothing really changes for me. If this matters to you, well alright, but I don't think it matters that much. If it does, feel free to make a spiritual successor edgy as fuck wad and only release it on /vr/.

>> No.7845232

>>7845096
not anymore, mirror someone?

>> No.7845239

>>7845210
Mordeth himself said, that the naziploitation wasn't the reason, but the fact that he mocked Marisa for being a tranny, him blaming the playtesters for the shitstorm, and overall him acting like an ass. It wasn't even the first time. Torm has history of doing shitty stuff like plagiarizing maps.

Also Torm himself took the mod and his website down.

>> No.7845246

>>7845229
Waiting for my eye to heal, because only using one for FPS kind of sucks.

>> No.7845247

>>7845229
Playing Scythe 2 myself. And yes, first time. Holy shit those clone doomguys are awesome. They feel like multiplayer bots.

>> No.7845248

>>7845246
>because only using one for FPS kind of sucks.
Yeah, you need that stereopsis.

>> No.7845250
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Made the pickup sprite for the Super Soaker. What do you think?

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>>7845228
I'll give BoA a go after the current stuff I'm playing and give it my honest thoughts along with screenshots hopefully.
>you only cared because it's edgy
Nah I saw a bit of a stream of it some time ago and it looked interesting.
>just don't post them on a mainstream site
I mean DW is obviously free to moderate their website as they wish, just weird hoe people have getting a boner over term being vilified.

>> No.7845261

>>7845250
Looks pretty accurate.

>>7845246
Hope your eye heals well anon.

>> No.7845263
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Tfw you realize the doom community is every nerd stereotype from the 80s and 90s combined, except only the negative ones.

>> No.7845268

>>7845254
Torm deserves it. Stealing Epic 2 map without Eternal's permission, slightly remixing it, and sending it to a community project as your own map, and then starting to sperg out when called out of it, was one of most shittiest thing he has done. You know when Mark seems like the sane one when compared to him, maybe he is rightly shitted on.

>> No.7845272

Here are some r667 backups:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/122559-repository-dump-temp-mirror-added/?page=3

>> No.7845274

>>7845272
Including your favorite faggot hosting: https://x0.at/-8AN.zip

>> No.7845282

>>7845248
>>7845261
It's mad frustrating, because I already hadn't played Doom in quite a while. At least the old 2D Zeldas are keeping me busy, Link's Awakening had large amounts of sovl.

>> No.7845283

There is already an official dump, but it's unsorted:
https://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/home/archiv/75-community-news/2399-we-will-stay-online

>> No.7845287

>>7845268
I heard he ripped off some maps from WolfenDoom as well, prompting Laz Rojas to come back after all this time, to call him a faggot.

>> No.7845289

>>7845283
Well that's a relief if what he says is true, that it was just a moving of servers.

>> No.7845290
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>>7845229
Playing Shadow Warrior.
Don't really like some of the level design decisions they roll with but it's okay. The gore is really good.

Also been blasting through Half Life 1, last level I finished was We've Got Hostiles. Trudging through the levels like Office Complex has made me dream of what the place was like to work at pre-disaster since you can sense how it was ultra comfy.

>> No.7845291

>>7845287
Haha. What a guy.

>> No.7845293

>>7845290
You might enjoy this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brxsf_OGmyE

>> No.7845307

>>7845289
Not the first time the site has gone down during convenient times. Also, what kind of provider takes site offline for day to move server?

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>>7845287
Really? I thought Laz would love that he is finally getting the recognition he deserved as a Doom mapping auteur and polymath.

>> No.7845314

>>7845228
>>7845107
>>7845239
I wish that Sonderkommando Revolt mod got actually finished so that any limp-wristed faggots compaining about BoA would shut up already how its too edgy for their brittle neo-liberal psyches...

>> No.7845316

>>7845289
Torm has a habit of explaining and lying out from situation after his sperg outs.

>> No.7845320

>>7845316
>>7845307
What I mean is that nothing was lost. It doesn't matter if he's lying about the reason, what matters is history was preserved, and now others can archive it in case he really does go nuclear someday.

>> No.7845323

>>7845229
I tested Blood on NBlood last night, and I like how it runs so I'll start my first playthrough of it tonight.

Also I've been playing Ion Fury but I think I'll drop it for now until I'm done with Blood because I got to the gauntlet level.

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>>7845293
Oh, thanks! I'll check it out tomorrow as I will be out of town most of today.

>the two scientists get shredded and their gots spew out of the chute
>outside the room, Barney goes "Ewww something died down here..."

>> No.7845325

>>7845312
That isn't really how it would work unless Torm just came out and said "yeah, I borrowed these maps from Laz" instead of just stealing them outright without telling anybody.

>> No.7845326

>>7845306
Wasnt there a Quake modding project about remaking ChasmTheRift in the works recently?

>> No.7845327

>>7845314
You would probably even eat my shit, if I said that my turd insulted trannies. I don't care about gzdoom non-doom mods. Vanilla, limit removing, boom is where the good stuff is. Only politics I care is good doom wads.

>> No.7845336

>>7845229
Playing Icarus. Really digging the music, but the level design so far is quite poor.

>> No.7845337

>>7845325
So much of BOA is taking Laz's work and cranking it to up to 11 that I just assumed the conceit of the whole thing was open borrowing.

>> No.7845339

>>7845336
Yea you have to get into 90s mentality to fully enjoy it. Great wad. Respects for playing it.

>> No.7845346

>>7845120
>No need for this fearmongering.
Even before this, the creator of the Inquisitor mods got crucified because one of the psychopath forum mods decided that he's misogynistic (entirely based on some bullshit armchair psychological analysis on the guy's mods) and all the mentally ill dumbworlders piled in on the witch hunt.

The community is fucked and censorship apologism is rampant.

>> No.7845350

>>7845339
Yeah, I understand that. I just wanted to give it a shot, because it seems to have some historical significance, and I wanted to experience it. I'm not hating the wad, and I haven't played it in its entirety yet. It's fun, but I think that Perdition's Gate is better (however, maybe Icarus gets better later on, exactly when PG becomes much worse). I'm just rambling.

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Still quite WIP, but I decided to try something kinda different with the laser rifle's railgun mode model. I wanted it to look like something the Ranger came up with out of necessity. Not sure if this is the right direction to take it though. Thoughts?

>> No.7845371

>>7845369
VRANON IT'S FINE BUT THE END LOOKS LIKE NOSTRILS FLARING

>> No.7845375

>>7845371
Is that just an amusing observation or are you saying something is wrong with it?

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>>7845375
It's an amusing observation that is worse than when it looked like a benis. What if you gave it a single "exhaust" hole I'll call them on the top center like so

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>>7845384
hmm... That's not present in the original design, but the QC version has it. The problem is I was more leaning towards the original, so that would be a tight fit with how close those back holes are... I guess I'll try some things and see what looks good.

>> No.7845393

>>7844615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTf9OlD9DRs

>> No.7845396

>>7844823
>>7844850
he sounds like Shadow the Hedgehog doing an impression of Caleb

>> No.7845398

>>7845393
Oh shit those slap noises lmao

>> No.7845402

Will HFFM get a standalone monster pack?

>> No.7845404

Is BloodGDX the best sourceport for Blood?

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>>7845339
Alongside the music, the aesthetics and new textures try their best to convince you you're playing on a space ship, which for the time is pretty damn incredible. Also the two gameplay gimmicks of the red key always being needed to exit the level, and the split between ship/planet/simulation levels are novel ideas that helped Icarus feel unique from what was available back then.

>> No.7845413

>>7844630
Because Yholl is a crazy little dude who does good mods.

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>>7845293
Wallace Breen be like:
>No, you see its very important that we spend tax payer money on shark cage in that generator room, yes and put that tranquilizer crossbow right there
>And we need to dig mile deep shaft right there, its very important for scientific research

>> No.7845427

>>7845420
Not to mention the ridiculous tie mandate.

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>> No.7845438

>>7845350
I liked the diner level in Icarus, but that's all I remember besides the one dogshit one with the grey pyramid across from like a nukage or lava river and you start in a "puzzle" room with a bunch of platforms and shit

>> No.7845448

>>7845420
Are you still in Black Mesa at that point?

>> No.7845510

>>7844615
NO CAN DO. Got an 8:30 res at the Wizard's Manse. Great fiend ceviche

>> No.7845520

This aged very well...

https://web.archive.org/web/20210227210905/https://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/home/archiv/75-community-news/1851-about-brutal-doom-and-the-hate

>> No.7845532

>>7844634
Delete this.

>> No.7845534

>>7845326
You mean porting/recreation? Or was that creating a new game/mod loosely based on the original (70-90% different from it)?
Because that's what remakes are.

>> No.7845538

>>7844632
I think this is perhaps a tad hyperbolic. I find that I have to wallfuck less in general as time goes on, because over time you develop an eye and a sense for where secrets might be and can zero in. I will concede that Quake's secrets can sometimes be tough to spy out, but it is still doable without humping for experienced players. Didn't id say as much in the manual?

>> No.7845539

>>7844634
Cursed image

>> No.7845548
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The Super Soaker now works as intended. You can pump up to 5 times. With maximum pressure it will shoot 10 projectiles in rapid succession, with the range being about tripled compared to no pumping.
Of course there needs to be some balancing done, but at least I got the mechanics down. This would have been an absolute horror with Decorate.
Sprites are still just quick placeholder doodles I use to set up the animations.

>> No.7845556

>>7845229
Playing Rylayeh for Doom 2. A guy on these threads claimed to have authored it once and I like Lovecraft so I checked it out. HUGE levels, but they do a good job conveying the sense of bizarre/non-Euclidian/Cyclopean geometry from the story Call of Cthulhu. I just started Level 4, and I'm pleasantly surprised the music track is from Heretic.

>> No.7845559

>>7844634
>Xbox presents
>Doom, coming 2024

>> No.7845560

>>7844932
Texture alignment is for jerks.

>> No.7845561
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It keeps going! Seems to be available on GOG, but not Steam.
https://www.gog.com/game/witchaven_witchaven_ii_blood_vengeance
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1655430/Witchaven_II_Blood_Vengeance/

>> No.7845580

>>7845268
>>7845287
It's weird how surprised people got at him stealing assets and stuff, he has/had/maybe has again, a site basically dedicated to hosting sprites and crap that have been stolen and edited a bit.

>> No.7845589

>>7845369
belts are the most obvious area for improvement. they need a thickness of at least one "pixel" and less dense UVs.
more broadly, the issues are with detail density.
geometry shouldn't have more detail that the texture: with some modifications, the belts could have been painted onto the model. and geometry should go to important parts first: the tube at the front probably has more faces than the gun's entire body.

last one is more subjective, but I think you went overboard with assymetry. all you needed was to break up the long samey section closest to the camera - just the leftmost "battery" would have sufficed and the balance would have remained more or less at the center.
also, an idea: you could go campy and introduce duct tape.

>> No.7845618

>>7845083
Do it, these things should always come in threes.
>>7845094
Just make a new account for it.

>> No.7845627

>>7845229
Recently beat 3x3p2, Slaughterfest 2012, HFFM

>> No.7845631

>>7844932
It's amazing how much time for actual stuff that matters you get if you ignore alignment.

>> No.7845637

>>7845631
Brainlet: accurately aligning every texture and modifying map layout to work
Big brain: using seamless textures that don't have alignment points/details
Brain-Niggurath: no longer caring about alignment even on clearly cut textures and just pointing at the id maps with the most egregious misalignments

>> No.7845640

Why do teleport monster closets use a dogear sector to merge with the main one instead of just merging the sector the waiting monster is in?

>> No.7845681

>>7845048
As soon as I saw that shit in the thread, I grabbed it. Knew this was coming.

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>>7845327
Sorry anon but Im not into shit consumption unless its a TerryWad or something simmilar :)

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>>7845640
Do you mean the long tunnel that the sound travels down? That's just a mapping relic from before merging sectors became a well known technique.

>>7845637
>mfw I see blatantly unaligned textures

>> No.7845713

>>7845239
I knew Blade of Agony was going to be shit because I played KDiZD and ZPack and those wads were overdesigned dogshit too. At least it's not going to kill ZDoom mapping for a decade this time.

>> No.7845714

>>7844787
that mate serving is a disgrace, it doesn't even look like yerba mate

>> No.7845717

>>7845232
>>7845089
https://mega.nz/file/ykYkhTaT#oDiIE2La_BY1pB-JsuE37OVSvnyQE_XVL8cuMExuL4A
I updated the gzdoom version to the stable release before they deleted it so that

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>>7845369
is it too much to ask for a tutorial or a quick overview on how to do this?

>> No.7845743

>>7845448
The only time you leave black mesa is xen.

>> No.7845757
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>>7845369
I love the jerry-rigged look of this gun, but the piping going into only one part seems off - basicly what >>7845384 have already said,
Maybe the new exhaust port should be the new place where the cell-pack cable connects to?
Also if its not too time-consuming, please check out how the 'power supply cable thingy' would look if it was the same texture colour/style as the DoE's PlasmaGun wires wiring segments that on the PG model are barely visible (near the blue top parts) due to how the model is shaped ingame

>> No.7845785

>>7845120
>...people don't play Scythe 2 because there's a level where you string up some trannies...
big if true

>> No.7845804

>>7845692
It's in some 2048 units maps still. Trying to be retro maybe?

>> No.7845814 [DELETED] 

>>7845120
>people don't play Scythe 2 because there's a level where you string up some trannies.
That made my dick hard for a moment, then I remembered that there isn't such a level in Scythe 2. What a shame.

>> No.7845818

>>7845314
There are versions of that mod but with some changes. You can find them on Moddb

>>7845327
That's pretty much a mentality that needs to die already.
People supporting something not because they like it but because is disliked by a group they despise and that goes for any side.

>> No.7845819

>>7845804
Is merging sectors possible in Boom?

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>>7845692
No, I mean like this, the sector at the very top is supposed to be merged with a main sector so that sound will activate the monster, but I don't know why you need that instead of just merging the sector the monster is already in.

>> No.7845832

>>7845819
Yes. Mapper might not know that technique or just prefers to do it that way.

>> No.7845835

>>7845314
Sonderkommando Revolt would have been too rough for a lot of people's tastes, but it's really upfront about its content and themes, so I think it would have worked way better.
Eisenfaust Origins replaces all the victims with the Wolfenstein 3D mutants, and it actually makes it very tonally awkward, I don't think it was an improvement to retool it like that.

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>> No.7845842

>>7845818
Yeah. BoA hasn't looked good to me before, and being disliked by the Doomworld tribunal doesn't make me want to play it any more, I'll pass.
Torm is clearly a douche that they wanted to get rid of for a long time, and I can't fault them for finally doing so, even if most of their complaints about BoA are retarded.

>> No.7845850

Is it possible to remove skills altogether, or at least omit having to choose skill level if there is only one available anyway?

>> No.7845860

>>7845850
I think ZDoom ports allow you to define your own skill levels.

>> No.7845869
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>>7845850
Cover every inch of the map in a lattice of explosive barrels but only tagged for easy and medium difficulty.

>> No.7845873

>>7845589
>>7845757
Thanks for the feedback, I'll de-poly the pipe and fiddle about with the other stuff. Not used to doing stuff like this so it's a bit of a challenge.

>>7845738
You probably don't want a tutorial from a brainlet like me. I'm basically following the videos from this guy though: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWS1aOQ6bLjxsPcxsMlrt9w

>> No.7845874

>>7845860
>>7845869
Nevermind, if there is only one skill level available, it will skip the skill choice dialog altogether.

>> No.7845916

>>7845842
The mod deserves to be criticized but for what it offers. It's tonally and artistically an inconsistent mess.
It's undeniable the amount of work put into it but Torm's reaction to the criticism left a bad taste.

And to think years ago I was excited to see this project finally completed.

>>7845835
Even then what if it actually was completed like it was meant to be? It's still fucking Wolfenstein 3D,primitive and outdated. There are mods that spice the game up but even then nothing special.

>> No.7845920 [DELETED] 

>>7845814
Ow the edge

>> No.7845931

>>7845325
>>7845312
>>7845287
>>7845268
Reminds me when the creator of Grezzo 2 blatantly stole several maps and sprites from the community.
Difference is that is not meant to be a professional work,while this one clearly had more time put into it and done by someone who's been far more influential and important.

>> No.7845939
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Ticket please

>> No.7845946 [DELETED] 

>>7845107
>pro-censorship SJW shithead
jesus christ come up with some better buzzwords it's not 2016 anymore PLEASE

>> No.7845952

>>7845850
Don't flag any monsters for specific difficulties, or block the player off with tech pillars.

>> No.7845983

>>7845939
I hate mimes...

>> No.7845991

>>7845850
If it's for zdoom, do this:
>clearskills
then define the skill you only want the player to use

>> No.7846014

>>7845946
buzzwords got only worse since then. And somehow killed their meaning even faster

>>7845107
BoA deserves criticism,the mod has gameplay issues and even on an artstyle standpoint.
I just don't understand those saying "don't like it,don't play it",which is dumb because the mod is free and is more accessible to what they think about it.

>> No.7846068

>>7845229
Still on Master Levels and my 100% run through Doom 1. Might try Dynamite Duchess for variety.

>> No.7846101

>>7845239
>him blaming the playtesters for the shitstorm
Did he say that the playtesters should have stopped him from publishing it somehow? Or did the mob imply that hypothetical testers should have, and you're assuming he agrees?

>> No.7846130

>>7845268
Do players deserve a chilling effect on future work because of mods being judged on the authors' pasts instead of their own merits?

>> No.7846139

>>7845324
>Gordon doesn't just put the gun down and help pull

>> No.7846145

>>7845327
That's nice. Other people like and care about different things.

>> No.7846152

>>7845384
Glans and urethra.

>> No.7846179

>>7846139
He's a sociopath,he also ruined a scientist casserole just for the hell of it

>>7845324
Replaying HL,I noticed how cynical and pessimistic Barney is.

>"Sure why not,didn't want to die alone anyway
>"We might have a better chance if we work together"

I know everything is going to shit but he's not helping.

>> No.7846183

>>7845239
>but the fact that he mocked Marisa for being a tranny
Debatable.
>blame playtesters
No, a shitload of people in that thread blamed the team for not having it properly playtested or vetted. Torm just pointed out that it had been, mentioning Scuba Steve specifically because he's the same type of person that jumps down people's throats for wrongthink.

As for his demeanor, how can you expect anyone to respond to some of the shit being said to him without being defensive? The fact that they keep bringing up the grind house element of BoA shows that they "get" it, and they just don't care. They don't want the Holocaust having anything light made of it. Why? Too soon? Can't have violence against women? Or is it the boobs, because that's a direct reference to the same types of movies it's swiping inspiration from. Or is it just because it didn't sell on it's influences well enough? Because that's not an issue with content, it's presentation.
Whole thing is insane. They're desperately trying to claim they don't want to have a hive mentality and be overbearing about it, but their entire mod team actively takes sides, engages in the conversation, gets the last word then locks threads and bans posters -conaistently. It's absurd. They let targeted abuse go on for pages, and the second someone comparatively mildly retaliates they go "we don't allow that sort of thing here!". Fuck them.

>> No.7846190
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7846190

I guess this is as ready as I'll ever be

>> No.7846204

>>7845120
>No need for this fearmongering
Ironically from my pov the real fearmongering is done by Doomworld faggots and discord nobodies that think they are saving the community by acting as the moral police that holds the objective truth.
Give it few days and the doom subforums will turn back to normal once the drama ends though this things leave a scar and it sucks to see this crap that reeks like a twitter witch hunt having so much support there.
Anyway, for a wad I'm making I wanted to put some harmless anime posters as an easter egg but now I think that It's better to save it for the eventual idgames release or give up entirely. Now I don't know how they'll react to some downscaled pixelated images you can barely recognize.

>> No.7846205

>>7846190
Go get 'em, champ.

>> No.7846210

>>7846204
I mean what's wrong with that? Shadow Warrior did it.

>> No.7846219

>>7846183
>Scuba Steve specifically because he's the same type of person that jumps down people's throats for wrongthink
ironic, considering that one of Scuba Steve's most loved releases is a mod where you burst into a stereotypical gay bar and terrorize a homosexual by smashing up his "fag-wagon"

>> No.7846228

>>7846219
To his credit he's at least more tactful about his criticisms than others are. He hasn't, that I've seen, straight up called anyone an asshole/piece of shit or been a general prick.

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>>7845229
playing doom zero @ collecting screenshots

>> No.7846295

>>7845534
Could you elaborate on the difference between "creating" something and "making" it?

>> No.7846302

>>7844615
>before i get the super shotgun
"Okay, let me consider each ammo quantity I have and the enemy I'm facing
>after the SSG
"SSG it is"

>> No.7846307

>>7845580
I guess people want to believe that people can change.

>> No.7846312

>>7844932 >>7845631
How hard is it? Can't it be automated somehow? (Was going to say "outsourced", but I guess that would have its own problems.)

>> No.7846317

https://twitter.com/BuildEnginePics/status/1402673523286593544

>> No.7846321
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I just want a fucking weapon mod that feels good is it too fucking much to ask for?

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>>7845561
Say what you want of the game its shit but fuck I love those covers. I wish we have the visuals to one day make a moving real time game with the art style of frazetta and other similar artists.


They are done in a classic style but its like you are really looking into another world.

>> No.7846326

>>7845713
Must you tempt fate?

>> No.7846329

>>7846321
play guncaster, damn it

>> No.7846330

>>7846324
Those images are very prob-lem-atic!

>> No.7846331

>>7846321
Have you tried Final Doomer? Plutonia and Hellbound's weaponsets are very chunky and satisfying.

>> No.7846335

>>7846324
i'm feeling the soul and love put into this art piece, its just amazing

>> No.7846346

>>7846321
It's called Dakka.

>> No.7846352

>>7846179
I noticed that as well and always empathized with him back. He knows he' s not getting out alive. Hes not wrong.

>> No.7846356

>>7846329
I dont wanna play as a faggy anthro scaly faggot dragon furry faggotry

>> No.7846363

>>7845838
>coming first-person wolfenstein
Are any of the Muse team involved, though, or is it just a cash-in on the name? I hope they at least keep the map layouts static, so I can look up maps like with Phantasy Star instead of having to draw them each time like with Akalabeth.

>> No.7846364

>>7845107
quick rundown, why would a mod about killing nazis be controversial in 2021?

>> No.7846369

>>7846356
COWARD

>> No.7846370

>>7846179
>>7846352
He also says stuff like how his target range practice is going to pay off today, so he's not completely negative.

>> No.7846371

What happened with BOA ? I missed the drama.

>> No.7846373

>>7845838
>known interesting faggots
E-celebs are never interesting.

>> No.7846374

>>7846364
Mostly showing bad people doing bad things in a bit of a tone deaf way.

>> No.7846378
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>>7846324
>>7846335
Frazetta's art is god-tier.
Imagine if he made the covers for Doom and Duke.

Rest in Power

>> No.7846380

>>7845838
>heard shitty halo thief
AAA games after 2003 or so?

>> No.7846385

>>7846352
At least he's fighting back and not just perish,accepting his demise.

>>7846370
Also the way he insults the alien creatures,man was done with everyone's bullshit that day. Or them considering there's more than one.

>> No.7846391

>>7845838
>design mean making enemies
Not necessarily, no.

>> No.7846393

>>7846312
It is automated. Idk about DoomBuilder but in Slade there is Ctrl-A combo to automatically align textures on the selected wall and all connected walls having the same texture. The problem is if the perimeter of all connected walls using the same texture is not divisible by the texture's width, it creates misalignment that is only fixable either by artistically introducing support textures somewhere along the path, or by changing layout to make perimeter divisible, which is often a very non-trivial task if you have non-90 degree walls.

>> No.7846394

>>7845838
>literally release oh ass design
Is someone sitting on it?

>> No.7846395

>>7846378

Rest in Power ?

>>7846385
Some scientits were also despondent and kinda accepting they were done good.

Kind funny how such a simple game could give them so much personality. Something we could learn today. But even then I wish we learned more about the soldiers etc. But I think the less you know the better it is.

>> No.7846408

>>7846378
That girl in the middle has seen some shit.

>> No.7846413

>>7846321
Final Doomer

>> No.7846418

>>7846374
So a gore scene? I guess the story of the nazis can really be told by only one select group. But if a non-group tells a positive or a negative story, it's bad.

>> No.7846420

>>7846324
Wouldn't think there'd be any technological obstacle; just funding and manpower.

>> No.7846427

>>7846317
Not optimistic about the source code, but glad someone's asking.

>> No.7846431

>>7846395
You know R.I.P? Same way but with Power instead of Peace,Frazetta died in 2010.

>Kind funny how such a simple game could give them so much personality. Something we could learn today. But even then I wish we learned more about the soldiers etc. But I think the less you know the better it is.

It's a case of less is more,it gives us just the right amount of info to know about their personalities and helps the storytelling without detracting from the gameplay.
About the soldiers,we know they're not happy to kill scientists,so they're not mindless monsters like we see at first glance. Opposing Force just gives more depth to them but we already get their human side in the campaign.

>> No.7846437 [DELETED] 

>>7846420
Tech I still think so, we like to imagine we are nearing that but we are nowhere near the quality required here.

Culturally? We are fucked. Maybe some frogs would do it. They love Boris Vallejo as well.

>>7846431

I googled rest in power, i am sorry i am not american and I honestly find your politics disgusting. I wish i did not google it.

>> No.7846441

>>7845819
Yes.
It is used a lot actually, from sound propagation trickery to control sectors for lifts/floors/ceilings/light.
Dogearing is rather aesthetic imo, keeps closets separate and you can have more control over which sounds pass (ex. closet monsters can be awakened from multiple sound-closed areas, but don't wake up monsters in other areas)

>> No.7846453 [DELETED] 

>>7846437
Wtf,I'm not even american and I remember that shit was just an alternate way to say R.I.P.
I didn't even know the history behind it.

Fucking yankees

>> No.7846457

>>7846352
Is it canon that Calhoun was the only guard survivor? I liked to think it was possible that some of the ones who stayed/got stranded behind could have made their way out, or got abducted by G-Man or something.

>> No.7846458

>>7846183
>>7846219
I think we've well established that the Doomworld staff are a bunch of shitty hypocrites.

>> No.7846459 [DELETED] 

>>7846453
I honestly never heard it.

>> No.7846462

>>7846179
>He's a sociopath,he also ruined a scientist casserole just for the hell of it
He also never told anyone about the two trapped scientists at the beginning who asked him to get help.

>> No.7846468

>>7846374
>tone deaf
Oof. Read the room, honey.

>> No.7846469 [DELETED] 

>>7846453
Is just like "Do you blush?",I thought it was a silly corny line which I liked.
Then I saw its history

>> No.7846470

>>7846329
Ridiculously OP weapons are ironically not very satisfying.

>> No.7846471

>>7846378
I feel like some of those poses would be pretty awkward in motion. What are they looking at? Who are they twisting to show off their figures to?

>> No.7846475

>>7845838 >>7846391
Or maybe I'm taking it too literally. Maybe it means that if you design anything worthwhile, someone will hate you for it.

>> No.7846486

>>7846393
Makes sense, I guess. Sounds like a situation ideally avoided in the first place.

>> No.7846501

>>7846457
I guess he was the only one.

Kinda strange seeing the female scientist in black mesa, but they fit better than the new soldiers.

>> No.7846512

Playing that one Doom 3 themed DBP mapset
Does a basic but neat job at simulating switching between a lantern and guns

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If there's one thing I noticed is that if you're german and in the Doom community,there's a high chance you're talented but equally an insufferable twat

>> No.7846521

>>7846321
anon, "feels good" is subjective
what is it you want?
sounds?

>> No.7846523

i was playing doom and then suddenly i figured out how i was making grilled cheese wrong. now i have the perfect grilled cheese sandwich. thanks doom.

>> No.7846528 [DELETED] 

>>7846513
That statement can be simplified to
>if you're german there's a high chance you're an insufferable twat

>> No.7846554

>>7846523
It can be very meditative that way.

>> No.7846587 [DELETED] 

>>7846528
Kinda. I met some really chill people from Krautland and are into Doom.
Just seeing Graf and Torm,both high ups of Doom community being like that gave me this impression

>> No.7846602 [DELETED] 

>>7846528
Bit racist.

>> No.7846612 [DELETED] 

>>7846602
Bet you wont see that one deleted.

>> No.7846623 [DELETED] 

they're just bitter they got a lame version of wolf3d

>> No.7846635
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7846635

What I expected from Blade of Agony:
Return to Castle Wolfenstein 2:the Fuhrer is coming for you

What I got:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6aZ7hHD3G0

>> No.7846679 [DELETED] 

>>7846469
Any details? I googled it and https://hinative.com/en-US/questions/11454900 and https://mlpforums.com/topic/110946-do-you-blush/, which I assume aren't what you're talking about. I guess it could be seen as asking "are you black?"; but what's the "history" of that?

>> No.7846697

>>7846471
I feel it supposed to be a a scene where they're moving and are in a hurry.

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>>7846635
So, you got what you expected + chinese expansion?

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Started with making player models. This is just for normal movement and death states to see if it works.
Also, I realized there is no hit indication, so I will have to make puffs now.

>> No.7846704

Man, if the people on DW got their panties in a twist over one line in Dynamite Duchess, imagine what they'd do if they saw this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgz9TdOLuSo

>> No.7846707

>>7846701
In a way yes but a lot more campy.

>> No.7846715

>>7846635
>bare tits with suspenders
That is my jam.

>> No.7846721

>>7846704
tumblr banned porn and its worse aspects spread everyone
these people would complain about that scene in jack and jill where a cgi dove was drinking from a chocolate fountain
they had a moral panic on the isabelle blowjob sprite, which is something a normal person would just laugh at
>>7845939
>hey, he didn't pay

>> No.7846724

>>7846704
Well hello there,fellow italian

>> No.7846740

>>7846703
Making the kid cry feels worse than killing demons

>> No.7846745

>>7846740
Don't worry, that's an MP match.

>> No.7846812

I tried Blood on Well Done difficulty (heard it was hard) and it's not enjoyable because the melee attack takes far too long to kill any enemy and I'm consistently out of ammo. It seems using melee whenever possible is a must.

>> No.7846819

>>7846703
>kid cries just because he got soaked
what a loser

>> No.7846821 [DELETED] 

>>7846721
>they had a moral panic on the isabelle blowjob sprite, which is something a normal person would just laugh at
>normal person
Yiff in hell

>> No.7846824

>>7846812
Blood's start is very ammo starved, after level 3 or so you don't really have ammo problems

>> No.7846832 [DELETED] 

>>7846821
"laught at" because of how cringy/absurd it is
2010/20's cancel culture is not much different from lolcow culture, which is fitting when you consider where your average sa goon is now
they deserve to have slenderman be stolen by invader zim teenagers

>> No.7846850 [DELETED] 

>>7846821
Tbh that shit was so dumb that was hilarious.
But it also showcases that Animal Crossing fans are too fucking horny

>> No.7846859 [DELETED] 

>>7846821
every normie ever jizzed over nala's bedroom eyes in lion king. literally a FERAL animal. fuck off with this nerd-trying-to-sound-normal shit. no normie knows what yiff or yiff in hell means

>> No.7846871
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What did they mean by this?

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>>7846859

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>>7846859

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>>7846859
>>7846872

>> No.7846897 [DELETED] 

>>7846872
if only we got to see sarabi give that look

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>>7846890

>> No.7846913 [DELETED] 

>>7846872
big if true - link to WaybackMachine?

>> No.7846938

>>7846812
The first level in Blood is almost like a survival horror but once you get the tommygun and steady ammo it's much less of a problem.

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>>7846897
>>7846872
>>7846859
Anons,please this isn't /trash/ or /co/

>> No.7847020

>>7846130
When you do that shit for dozen of times, yes.

>> No.7847038

>>7846101
Read the thread. Nobody else was blaming the playtesters, but instead Torm was being Torm again. He didn't apologize his content nor stand behind it. He panicked, made himself look like victim and simply blamed playtesters, that helped for allowing the content that he himself made. No need to defend Torm over that.

>> No.7847056

>>7846204
TPH had some anime girl ass as easter eggs and it was fine.

>> No.7847059

>>7846249
One of best wads I've played.

>> No.7847067

>>7847038
>Nobody else was blaming the playtesters
Ctrl + F -> edit

>> No.7847102

>>7847067
forgot link.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/71736-wolfenstein-blade-of-agony-achievement-ideas-p13/?page=15
Half the thread is talking about the editing process, spurred by the comment of "hopefully few" testers that it all managed to get past.

Tormentors response is 2 pages later.
It wasn't out of the blue.

>> No.7847135

>>7845247
Vasyan777, is that you?

>> No.7847161

>>7846228
He was being a passive-aggresive asshole towards Impie.

>> No.7847176

>>7847161
Yyyeeaah. A bit. He wasn't as bad as a lot of people in that thread though. So I guess you can cross out "general prick", he's been a bit of that. But still less aggro than most.

>> No.7847201

Well?>>7846871

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Alright fellas,drama bullshit aside.
What do you think of Blade of Agony?

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>> No.7847216

>>7847202
Inconsistent art styles, bland gameplay.

>> No.7847218

>>7847202
A big fat "Meh."

>> No.7847220

>>7847202
So far I like it quite a bit, but I'm only on the first episode so far.
The rooms are a little predictable sometimes. Hallway, officers office, bathroom, guy on toilet, etc, but when they break away from that it's fun.
>>7847216
>Inconsistent art styles, bland gameplay.
Disagree with the gameplay. Feels good to me.
But the art style thing is a little off sometimes. That's not unexpected of a doom wad though.

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>Sonder underground release of private copies to over 40 selected people which didnt leak to this day, including underground "mod of the month" award.

Till now, enjoy everyone

https://ufile.io/n98jlr7e

>> No.7847227

>>7847223
Fucking saved, thanks anon

>> No.7847228
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7847228

Left or right?

>> No.7847230 [DELETED] 

>>7847223
So what exactly is different here?

>> No.7847236

>>7847056
It's never about consistently enforcing rules. It's about finding any grounds to attack the target of the week.

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>> No.7847240

>>7845147
>Mhmm... see that dynamite? You can DODGE IT! Hehehe...

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I was on the internet, and I found this.

>> No.7847257

Post your favorite 90's fps for each year.

>> No.7847263

>>7847228
I prefer right.

>> No.7847279

>>7847257
93-DOOM
94-DOOM 2
95-Dark Forces
96-Duke 3D
97-Blood
98-Don't like this year. Half-Life is meh
99-Quake 3 Arena

>> No.7847292

>>7847257
I never played Catacomb, so I'll start at '92
92 - Wolf3D
93 - Doom
94 - Doom 2, but since that's obvious Heretic is great too
95 - Hexen
96 - Quake
97 - I guess Hexen 2. Kind of a weak year. Q2 is okay. Never played Blood past the first like 2 maps.
98 - Unreal
99 - UT or SS2

>> No.7847301

>>7847228
Left looks like cheese, so for an enemy you might want to go with right - more menacing.

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>>7847228
Any chance to remake the water-pistol in blue color?

>> No.7847310

>>7847257
93: Doom
94: System Shock
95: Dark Forces
96: Duke3D
97: Duke Caribbean, honorable mentions to Q2 and D64
98: HL
99: SS2

>> No.7847309

>>7847223
Oh shit, I thought that was basically lost to time, thank you!

>>7847230
The premise is that you're a Sonderkommando who revolts and fights back against his captors. Certainly a very bleak setting for a shooting game, but at the same time it's a basic concept of rebellion which works for an action game.

People were offended by this, and it was retooled into Eisenfaust : Origins, where instead of being a Sonderkommando, and instead of jews/slavs/gays being depicted as the victims of all this cruelty, you play as a Mutant, and they are all Mutants, the Wolfenstein 3D kind, gray skin, red eyes, purple blood, green overalls, etc. Tonally this is super awkward, because it's still painfully clear that the setting is a modestly edited concentration camp with the inmates being replaced with the goofy and cartoony mutants.

I think it would have been way more dignified and honest to just stick with the original concept, rather than crudely concealing it with this goofy cartoon bullshit as an attempt of toning it down and censoring things, because looking at the original, I see something that's unpleasant simply because it's dark, but looking at the censored final, it's just full of extremely awkward parallels which looks much worse.

>> No.7847317

>>7847301
Sorry, should have specified - this is the player model.
I am right now in the process of choosing a weapon for them to hold.
So on the left you have a sponge (that you start with) that looks like a cheese and on the right the pistol (which you don't start with). I was also thinking of having them completely without holding anything, but I don't quite like that.

>>7847306
Maybe, the colors and all that are not really set in stone; as you can see, the sprite also doesn't have any shading whatsoever.

>> No.7847323

>>7847201
Haven't played Deus Ex yet and don't even know what you're pointing out.

>> No.7847332

>>7847323
the crowbar and the crate

>> No.7847340

Is there a reason why a switch that is activated from the backside of the linedef will not play the animation? From the front side it works perfectly.

>> No.7847341

>>7847332
Maybe they were implying that you use a crowbar to open crates?

>> No.7847343
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7847343

I'm having trouble getting Heretic to run in prboom+. I keep getting this error. What would cause this?

>> No.7847348

>>7847340
I don't think you are supposed to be able to activate switch from backside at all.
Or was it like a walk-on switch or something?

>> No.7847349

>>7847343
Cant PRBoom+ even run Heretic? You might be barking up the wrong tree.

>> No.7847350

>>7847343
I don't think PrBoom+ has compatibility with Heretic, but I do know that DSDA-Doom does.

>> No.7847352

>>7847348
Nah, I had the glorious idea of making it some kind of veil that gets pulled back, so I wouldn't have to fuck around with setting textures and such, but while you can "open" it from the front, the texture on the backside stays unchanged.

>> No.7847367

>>7847341
It's a HL reference

>> No.7847373

>>7847352
I would suggest making normal textures as lower/upper texture and pulled curtain as mid texture then. And have ceiling/floor instantly retract.

>> No.7847386

>>7847373
Yeah, I probably have no other choice there, thanks.

>> No.7847397

>>7847386
If you absolutely need to have line be walkable at all times, I guess you might stack two variants on top of one another and have ceiling jump up to hide the old one and reveal a new one.

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>>7847306
>>7847317
Green or Blue?

>> No.7847421

>>7847202
Feels like a lot of work has gone into it but not always into the places it really needed to go into.

It's like there were people working on it who had pet projects that got done at the expense of other stuff.

>> No.7847426

>>7844616
Heretic Hi-res sound effects pack
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/122575-dwarss-heretic-hq-sfx-pack-80-sound-effects-remastered/

>> No.7847440

>>7847367
Maybe a skosh, just because they used a red crowbar, but that's a stretch even.

>> No.7847441

>>7847426
Neat.

>> No.7847445
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>>7847409
Ill take the one that would reliably cause me to get shot by an almost-reired detective of course 8')

>> No.7847450

>>7847367
Valve didn't invent crowbars or crates, the two often go together.

>> No.7847470

>>7847445
Sounds like an obvious insurance fraud scheme...

>> No.7847479

>>7847450
>>7847440
It's an obvious reference and they've said it's a reference, are you retarded or just trolling?

>> No.7847491

>>7847202
Fun combat, meh level design, awesome soundtrack.

>> No.7847502

>>7847479
>obvious reference
Crates and crowbars?
Crates have been in every FPS since Doom.
A crowbar is literally the tool you use to open crates.
>and they've said it's a reference
Proof, but that's not exactly an obvious reference even if that is the case. They didn't invent hitting people with crowbars, and that's a very common looking crowbar.

No need to be a massive faggot about it.

>> No.7847506

>>7847257
92-Wolf3d but it's kinda meh to me
93-Doom
94-Heretic
95-Marathon 2
96-Quake
97-Blood
98-Unreal
99-Either UT99 or Kingpin

>> No.7847534

>>7847426
>dwars
NOPE.avi

>> No.7847540

>>7845873
thanks
>>7845717
has someone downloaded this?

>> No.7847552

>>7847502
Here's Warren Spector literally saying it's an homage to Half-Life. https://youtu.be/aTVBSxnwiCo?t=466

>> No.7847554

>>7847534
So?

>> No.7847569

>>7847552
>kinda an homage
amazing
I don't actually give a shit. I'm just saying it's not an obvious thing, aside from maybe the way he holds it, hook out. And I don't know why it bothers you so much.

>> No.7847570

>>7847540
>has someone downloaded this?
yeah. didn't know blowholes could stretch that wide!

>> No.7847571

>>7846219
And he's since regretted doing that. A realistic gay bar wouldn't look like a pride float, it'd be upscale looking with the DJ playing house music and the patrons wouldn't cosplay as the fucking Village People.

If he played The Ballad of Gay Tony in GTA IV, I would totally see why he'd have a change of heart.

>> No.7847576

DX fags kneel to Half Life, Thief, Fallout, Goldeneye, System Shock and Suidoken chads.

>> No.7847580

>>7847534
He didn't make the sounds with his mouth, you fucking goofball.

>>7847571
Sure, but it adds a hokey comedic edge to Urban Brawl.

>> No.7847582

>>7847576
*Suikoden

>> No.7847643

>>7847580
>Sure, but it adds a hokey comedic edge to Urban Brawl
There were plenty of other gay stereotypes in the mid 2000s he could have used for hokey comedy.
>bears
>twinks
>closeted family values types
>butch dyke lesbians
>drag queens

You could also have just thrown in a bunch of regular enemies as well to make it less crass.

>> No.7847645
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7847645

the fuck nigga. I've been playing doom for years and I've never experienced a glitch like this.

>> No.7847657

>>7847645
Intercepts overflow. DSDA-Doom has an option to turn it off in compatibility options I believe.
Decino made a video recently if you're interested in how it works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IYfwCWZeD0

>> No.7847658

>>7847645
That there's a ghost monster, Archie must have rezzed a shotgunner that got crushed by the door. they can practically only be hurt by splash damage, and there are some maps that utilize them intentionally.

>> No.7847661

>>7847657
Wait, I'm wrong. >>7847658 is right.

>> No.7847662

>>7847657
It's not an intercept overflow, because the whole game isn't fucked. The shotgun guy can still damage him.

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>>7847657
>>7847658
thanks

yeah the RL fucked him up thankfully. I've spent most of my life playing GZDoom lol, this never happened there

>> No.7847674

>>7847643
It's just a goofy fistfight scenario in a fighting game.

>> No.7847690

I am obviously fucking retarded, but how do I implement custom blood?
I made a new class that inherits from Blood, set BloodType to that one and it just won't appear. I have no idea what I am doing wrong.
Can someone spoonfeed me how to exactly add custom blood?

>> No.7847694

>>7847673
GZDoom fixes this bug so hard you can't even use it intentionally in your own maps in that port. There's a hardcoded whitelist for wads that use ghost monsters, and those maps and wads are the only places GZDoom reproduces this vanilla bug even remotely correctly.

>> No.7847707

>>7847694
I really don't understand why this couldn't just be left to a compat flag like so many other things in GzDoom.
If they're so worried about whatever consequences (I can't imagine which), just attach a warning to it stating that it's not advised to have it on outside of levels designed around it.

>> No.7847754

>>7847317
In a deathmatch mod, isn't the player model also the enemy one?

>> No.7847763

>>7847569
>And I don't know why it bothers you so much.
It's basically the Jojo reference shit for vidya, dudes gotta prove each and every crowbar is a HL reference.

>> No.7847767

>>7847754
Sure

>> No.7847769

>>7847279
>95-Dark Forces
something something slavjank-tier platforming

>> No.7847783

>>7847673
i remember this happened to me once as a kid playing a dark doom 2 map where an arachnotron came back to life and was unkillable and could even phase through walls n shit. the sound of him coming scared the shit out of 4 year old me and made me think my game was haunted or something

>> No.7847818

HUUUUH
HEEEEUGH
HUUUUOOOOOH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLsAdQE-RhY

>> No.7847837

whats everyone's opinion the Duke 3d Alien Armageddon mod? Playing it so far. It seems kinda good.

>> No.7847872

>>7847257
90-Corporation
91-Catacomb 3D
92-Wolf 3D
93-Doom
94-Doom II
95-Descent
96-Duke 3D
97-Goldeneye 007
98-Half Life
99-Opposing Force

>> No.7847910

Im thinking of making a doom II map that's just a bunch of sector furniture and decorations, like a furniture store like IKEA or something. No monsters, just couches TVs and sector toilets and stuff. And just posting It on doomworld as a light hearted joke. I'm afraid they wont appreciate my sense of humor, lol.

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Can someone explain which tranny tries to destroy another fine mod?

>> No.7847918

Did Doom 3 come at a bad time?

>> No.7847924

>>7847872
>HL games for 98 and 99
That makes me think, back when HL was new, did PC gamers of the time treat it like an old school shooter that was trying to be deep, or at least more involved than just shooting? EG something like Quake but with more of a story? I always felt like HL1 was a weird mix of old school FPS games with aspects of modern story driven ones, and I wonder if when it was new it was seen more for the former or the latter.

>> No.7847926

>>7847918
Yes BUT
Doom 3 should be a VR game from the beginning.
and raytraced to the ground.

>> No.7847929

>>7847918
Doom 3 was tech demo for normal mapping technology.
Good tech demo at that.

>> No.7847940

>>7845346
https://youtu.be/Eqf-gcOp7bI

>> No.7847941

>>7847918
i don't think so i remember being super hyped about Doom 3. Didn't have a pc good enough but did have the xbox version

Eventually got the pc version. Idk i like doom 3

>> No.7847943 [DELETED] 

>>7847917
they are mentally ill

>> No.7847950

>>7847910
Do it. Even if dw doesn't like it (I'm not sure why they wouldn't), some of us here certainly will.

>> No.7847953

>>7844737
Its automatic for missing textures in Doom 64

>> No.7847956

>>7846130
Nah.
Doing mistakes and getting scolded for them is a positive thing.
SgtMarkIV is the best example since he replaced alot of stolen code/assets with his own work in BD.

>> No.7847957

>>7847707
Because Graf thinks using any bug as a design choice is stupid and only allows it for historical wads under sufferance.

>> No.7847963

>>7847956
I don't entirely disagree, but I think scolding people for political reasons and then citing previous behavior as a factor is a dogshit thing to do too.

>> No.7847969

>>7847941
I like it too. We should be friends. We can coop it.

>> No.7847970

>>7845231
>My primary point is that edgy does not always equal interesting
If its not your personal taste, thats fine. Whats not fine is mods being taken down not because their content is hateful or malicious, but because the admins happened to find it icky.

>I dont think it matters that much
You fail to feel empathy for people who do enjoy such mods, and you fail to see how this trend could become a slippery slope.

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>>7847910
With the proper branding, they will eat that shit up.

>> No.7847980

>>7847957
He's not wrong.

>> No.7847982

>>7846317
They better be paying the guy who made the updated version.

>> No.7847987

while i was testing my map i decided to test it out in GZDoom since I was using ZDoom most of the time. I've now come to conclusion that ZDoom is way better with the lighting imo.

>> No.7847990

>>7847987
You can set GZDoom to software rendering etc etc...

>> No.7847991

>>7847576
Only if they take me to dinner first.

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7847992

Lmao

>> No.7847994

>>7847645
>Kama Sutra
based.

>> No.7847996

>>7847974
>it's not OLDM
>>7847992
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THIS ISN'T SATIRE

>> No.7848000

>>7847257
1990: Flip a coin; played neither
1991: Faceball 2000
1992: Wolfenstein 3D
1993: Pathways Into Darkness
1994: Marathon
1995: Dark Forces
1996: Marathon Infinity
1997: Jedi Knight
1998: Half-Life
1999: Unreal Tournament

A lot of those are empirical answers; whichever game I've "favored" the most with time/money/attention. Never played Faceball, though.

What do you plan to do with the information?

>> No.7848003

>>7847992
doom is the most christian game of them all. your literally killing demons the entire time, destroying evil in every which way possible.

>> No.7848006

>>7847929
Which id games haven't been tech demos?

>> No.7848013

>>7848006
Commander Keen 6, Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny, Doom II. Basically all their same-engine sequels.

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>>7848006
Wolfenstein: Spear of Destiny
Doom 2
Doom 2016
Doom Eternal

What did I win?

>> No.7848023

>>7847924
It wasn't grouped with today's games that didn't exist at the time, but it was talked about as innovative and advancing the genre. From what I read at the time, I understood it to be in the category of "thinking man's shooters" like System Shock and Jedi Knight, rather than "mindless shooters" like id's and 3D Realms'. Before I tried the demo, I expected some kind of nonlinear shooter/adventure hybrid. Does any of that answer your question?

>> No.7848026

>>7847940
Was that relevant to the post?

>> No.7848027

>>7847918 >>7847926
Bad how? People hated and memed about having to fight in the dark, but I'm not sure what timing had to do with that.

>> No.7848029

>>7847970
So you agree that hateful content should be taken down. What's "malicious" content? You mean malware?

>> No.7848031

>>7847992
I wonder what he thought "dead" meant.

>> No.7848035

>>7847924
It was the natural progression of the genre. Doom and Quake were originally intended to have story elements and when Romero was set free he tried to do a story-heavy game with Daikatana.

>> No.7848036

>>7847957
you could just make the exact equivalent of this glitch as a zdoom decorate monster

>> No.7848040

>>7848029
Well yeah. If he actually was maliciously mocking of a specific person or group, it would make sense to ban him. Thats a pretty basic rule for a forum. But he wasnt, the admins exaggerated everything he did to make it sound as bad as possible. For instance, he didnt "misgender Marisa Heit", there was a character named after Randy Heit (the person's birth name) that was originally added years ago.

>> No.7848042

>>7848013
Makes sense.

>Doom 2016
>Doom Eternal
Are you sure?

>> No.7848045

>>7848036
You'd need to make two versions if you wanted vanilla compatibility, though.

>> No.7848046

>>7848036
Yeah, but then the map wouldn't work in other ports. If I wanted ghost monsters in a map I was making, I'd just say fuck GZDoom and do it the vanilla/boom compatible way.

>> No.7848058

>>7847910
That's funny as just an abstract thing, do it. It's a good excuse to practice making sector furniture, which is suitable detail for some kinds of levels.

>> No.7848063

>>7848045
yeah it wouldn't be. when you're getting that gimmicky with your maps you're probably gonna have a better time with zdoom in general even if the prboomers would cry about vanilla compatibility

>> No.7848064

>>7848042
>Are you sure?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Engine is not trying to be groundbreaking and gameplay is just reinventing the wheel.

>> No.7848069

>>7847956
>>7847963
I agree with you both.

>>7847957
That's stupid as fucking fuck, because Doom mapping and modding has historically made heavy use out of glitches and unintended effects. Instantly lowering floors is an unintended glitch, but he wouldn't fucking patch that out.

>> No.7848072

>>7847941
Doom 3 isn't perfect, but I like it a lot, it's a pretty decent game overall.

>>7847980
Yes he is, just like he is wrong about crosshairs.

>> No.7848078

>>7848072
what'd he say about crosshairs

zdoom's health-colored crosshair is a stroke of genius

>> No.7848079

>>7847987
Subjective of course, but GzDoom has a lot of lighting options, try them out, there's a software style one.

>>7848036
That's an inelegant as fuck solution.

>> No.7848080

>>7847910
>No monsters
Wouldn't that just make it a deathmatch map?

>> No.7848081

>>7848064
Fair enough.

>> No.7848083

>>7848078
GzDoom's crosshair doesn't really align with your point of impact, even when looking straight forward, so it isn't actually a proper reticle for aiming. His rationale for why this shouldn't be fixed, or why there shouldn't be options for this, is "The crosshair is where you look, not where you aim!" which is surreal, as if your eyes needed a dedicated focus point for when you're focusing on the center area of the screen most of the time.

>> No.7848084

>>7848079
iirc you can make enemies invincible with just udmf actor flags so you might not even need to fuck with decorate actually

>> No.7848085

>>7848064
They dont really license out their engines anymore either.

>> No.7848090

>>7848083
why would the crosshair be off? looks centered to me

unless you want the crosshair to account for spread like counter strike or something

>> No.7848108

>>7848027
As FPS is just mediocre jumpscare simulator and it should have taped flashlight to the gun from the start. In VR it's entirely different thing, walking sim run n' gun experience (aside of shitty cutscenes and shotty which still are mistake).

>> No.7848117

>>7848084
>just convert your levels bro
Ghost monsters are also not invulnerable.

>> No.7848131

>>7848117
i mean it is weird that its not a compatibility flag considering there's a whitelist and so there must be a flag in the code to enable it back in

>> No.7848149

How come when i play duke 3d levels i almost never get all enemies.
>total enemy count 226
Killed 150
>found all secrets
Walk around for 5-10 minutes no enemies
where the fuck are they?

>> No.7848154

>>7848149
Kill the babes

>> No.7848165

>>7846635
A nazisploitation game could work and you could argue RtCW is one.

>> No.7848167

>>7848154
That's not very groovy of you.

>> No.7848170

>>7848154
I try picking up all items, finding all secrets going in all the areas to spawn in the guys.

I was playing the pyramid level in alien world order

I dont think theres any "babes" in that entire episode.
Also i like the idea of saving the babes from the n64 version. Thats cool. Also it got moved into the PC version

Which i think can be played through rednukem?

>> No.7848172

>>7848131
Exactly. There's no good reason to not make it a compat option.

>> No.7848181

>>7848170
I wonder if there's a mod for EDuke32 or RedNukem which lets you just rescue the babes in levels, and scores you for doing so between levels?

>> No.7848184

>>7848170
Not being able to save the babes always sucked, 64 and Manhattan Project got it right.
>>7848181
64 did score you for saving the babes.

>> No.7848186

>>7848181
I'm not sure desu but its a good idea like maybe a ammo drop or something or armor drop from the last one.
Something either useful right now or the player can come back for if need be either later on or right before hitting the end level button?

>> No.7848202

>>7848184
yeah that does kinda suck also i didnt even know babes counted towards the kill count

>> No.7848230

>>7847571
>A realistic gay bar wouldn't look like a pride float, it'd be upscale looking with the DJ playing house music and the patrons wouldn't cosplay as the fucking Village People.
The only bar in walking distance to me at a former residence was a gay bar, so I meandered in there twice. It was definitely not upscale, and the one day it very much was like a pride float.
It was kinda sad really.

>> No.7848232

>>7845229
I'm playing Quake 1 mission packs, playing a new Quake 1 run on Nightmare and doing a special homage of sorts for E1M1 of Quake 1.

>> No.7848235

>>7848064
>Engine is not trying to be groundbreaking
The thing it does particularly good is scaling to hardware. But yeah, not groundbreaking in any meaningful way.

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>>7848235
Do we like Treasure Tech here? Because I like Treasure Tech.

>> No.7848281

>>7848280
Shit, didn't mean to reply to you, sorry.

>> No.7848282

>>7848281
how dare you

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>>7848280
I like Treasure Tech.

>> No.7848293

>>7848280
I like Wario Land, so I should probably give it a shot eventually.

>> No.7848303

>>7848280
i like it

>> No.7848312

>>7848023
Yeah it does, makes me think too about the MP. Specifically how it gained traction even though it didn't have a lot in terms of interesting movement options (aside from the longjump upgrade on some of the maps and pseudo-bhop that doesn't really help gain speed aside from maybe the initial jump) like other FPS games at the time, especially MP ones. Not that HL1's MP can't be fun, but still.

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>>7848280
Treasure Tech is there with Hideous Destructor as part of "The few reasons to use GZDoom."

>> No.7848328

>>7848282
pls don't hurt me

>> No.7848338

>>7848280
I want/need to try it out.
How about Combined Arms? I've been enjoying that.

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>>7848314
>Look at the Heavy Kuma's code
>It fires two lots of bullets
>One has a much tighter spread so there are always bullets close to your crossair
>The second one has a much wider spread so you get that satisfying spray of bullets across the entire screen
>It also fires an invisible projectile that only lasts a few frames
>I don't know what the projectile is for, but I think it's to murder anything right in front of you when you pull the trigger
The sheer amount of thought that went into this gun is amazing.

>> No.7848348

>>7848342
That projectile is for the knockback effect, it's why if you kill a goon at close range with the Kuma they go flying as if you body checked them.

>> No.7848354

>>7848314
What's wrong with it? I thought it was the most full-featured engine for single-player.

>> No.7848362

>>7848354
Fucking terrible compatibility/authenticity for actually playing Doom. Unless you're using a gameplay mod not compatible with anything else, or playing maps specifically made for the engine, there's no reason to run GZDoom over something like PrBoom+ or DSDADoom.

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Is the HFFM sprite anon still around? I haven't seen him in a while, I remember he was making some kind of tank enemy

>> No.7848404

>>7848314
jesus what the fuck am i wtching

>> No.7848413

>>7848362
Not planning on recording speed demos, so I guess I'll plan on PrBoom+ once I'm through with the official versions' Achievements. Thanks.

>> No.7848417

>>7848404
You're watching a large man bully the shit out of demons.

>> No.7848441

>>7848404
Wario Land 4 as an FPS by way of Doom, with guns inspired primarily by Metal Slug, it's beautiful.

>> No.7848449

>>7848362
>Fucking terrible compatibility/authenticity for actually playing Doom.
This is your brain on demo recoording and why speedrunning is autistic cancer. For normal human beings, GZDoom is perfectly fine for playing Doom. The (strict) compatibility options are "authentic" enough, minus the missing ghost monsters mentioned above.

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7848454

What about
>arena fps
>story is the main character trying to escape it because it's a fucking old genre

>> No.7848481

>>7848454
Wow that looks fucking hideous.

>> No.7848503

>>7848449
100% correct

>> No.7848516

>>7848449
>>7848503
>Run a bloated inaccurate engine because something closer the way the game was actually designed and released is "autistic cancer"
Fuck off, I don't even record demos unless I'm testing someone else's map. The game performs quantifiably worse in GZDoom than in something like GLBoom, because all the extensions made for modding and shader support are running whether you use them or not.
For normalfags, is it fine? Sure, but we're Doom players, we like to play Doom, not Graf's spaghetti-coded 3D engine capable of running a facsimile of Doom.

>> No.7848524

>>7848516
Some of us like to run mods. If I was playing classic Doom, I'd choose a different sourceport, but let's be honest, GZDoom is where the majority of gameplay mods are.

>> No.7848525

>>7848516
and as a doom player, i'm telling you to go fuck yourself

>> No.7848538

>>7848524
>If I was playing classic Doom, I'd choose a different sourceport, but let's be honest, GZDoom is where the majority of gameplay mods are.
That was my point in the first place. If you're playing a gameplay mod built around it that's fine. Its feature set ceases to be (entirely) bloat at that point. I love Treasure Tech and Hideous Destructor, as mentioned, but I tolerate GZDoom for them, I didn't choose it.
>>7848525
Nice. Sorry you had to find out like this that GZDoom isn't Doom, it's like using Darkplaces to play Quake. Ultimately, play however you want, I can't stop you, nor do I really care. You're the one who made assumptions about my preference for purism when discussing source port choice for vanilla doom.

>> No.7848542

>>7848538
GZdoom as a whole frustrates me because at this point it's some freak bastard child of Unity, damned bloated thing that it is. Working with it and Zandronum is a pain in the ass.

>> No.7848575

>>7848542
Wait, what does GZDoom have to do with Unity? Or are you just saying they are both similarly "bloated"? Unity isn't bloated at all by the modern standards by the way. Empty game in Unity will be something like 20mb, while empty game in UE4 will be at least 300mb afair.

>> No.7848581

>>7848575
I'm more calling GZDoom some weird shitty independent game engine that happens to be compatible with Doom wads. Though really only a handful of people use GZDoom as a development platform like that.

>> No.7848585

>>7848516
>>7848538
>The game performs quantifiably worse in GZDoom than in something like GLBoom
GZDoom with Vulkan runs everything that isn't meme-slaughter, or BridgeBurner-tier linedef vomit perfectly fine. What crap are you playing that makes GZDoom shit itself?
>Sorry you had to find out like this that GZDoom isn't Doom
Another autistic take. GZDoom is Doom if iD wasn't such a shit company and actually fixed the jank out of their garbage 28 year old engine at any point. So in this case "isn't Doom" means less bugs and exploits. The absolute cope of Doom purists eating vanilla shit. It's like playing a Build Engine game and going, "Boy I sure love getting randomly crushed by doors and having explosives not hurt enemies. So authentic!"

>> No.7848587

>>7848581
I dislike how it struggles to efficiently render any noticeable amount of enemies at the same time (like 10000), but other than that, it's nice to have a general purpose 2.5d engine which is so easy to work with.

>> No.7848592

>>7848585
>fixed the jank
Anon. GZDoom is held together with duct tape and chewing gum.

>> No.7848595
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>>7848592
Nah, that's build. GZDoom is more like way too much thermal paste.

>> No.7848597

>>7848454
This isn't doom

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the machine gun turrets in rampancy can send you flying with the link set in combined arms lol.

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>> No.7848620

>>7848585
>GZDoom with Vulkan runs everything that isn't meme-slaughter, or BridgeBurner-tier linedef vomit perfectly fine.
I should have called it in the previous post, I knew you'd disparage "slaughter." Maps with large-scale fights and lots of enemies aren't some unplayable meme like you think they are. Though it is entirely possible they ARE unplayable in GZDoom.
>Another autistic take.
Guilty as charged, I just don't like being lumped in with speedrunners; I just play the game and prefer the original feel and performance over Mr. [No] Chicken's Spaghetti Slip n' Slide.
Sorry, mate. Seems you're running out of teeth.

>> No.7848623

Might as well post this here. Here's the SNS queue
-Favillesco E4 + Sigil
-D2temp
-Preacher
-180 Minutes Pour vivre
-BTSX E2
-Eviternity
-HFFM
-Return to Hadron
You're free to add any wads you want as long as they don't crash in zandronum

>> No.7848630

>>7848623
add the 3 Heures d'agonie trilogy, p good maps.

>> No.7848631

>>7848623
Add Doom 2 in Spain Only if you guys haven't already played through it, it's excellent.

>> No.7848634

>>7848516
I play LZDoom with software mode. As a player there is no literal difference to Boom in gameplay perspective since LZDoom fixed stuff like random damage counters. LZDoom is also lighter for non-gzdoom wads and most importantly Graf isn't in the team that develops it. Sure you can't record demos with it (like you can't with Eternity either), but I see no other reason to hate it.

>> No.7848645

>>7848630
>>7848631
Added.

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>>7846635
You should also try Astrostein

>> No.7848648

>>7848362
The only time I would agree that GZDoom should be avoided is if you're making a map and intending it to be compatible with vanilla, crispy and/or prboom+, as playtesting only on GZDoom can lead to zdoom-isms, where the map works perfectly fine when under a ZDoom-based port, but may have potentially game breaking bugs while running the so-called intended port.

>> No.7848649

>>7848634
You actually can record vanilla compatible demos with the -vanilla command under eternity,

>> No.7848650

>>7847992
He was kinda right. At 99-2000 the modding scene was dying out. People thought that all new fps would replace Doom. Most 90s big name mappers had stopped mapping. Alien Vendetta was still in development and it was talked as the last megawad. Nobody knew that there was whole new generation of mappers coming, nobody knew that new fps couldn't compete with 90s ones, and nobody knew how big thing source ports would become.

>> No.7848654

>>7847918
There was lot of hate for Doom 3, but it had cult following. Even most of cult following did seem to die out when Half-Life 2 was released.

>> No.7848660

>>7848649
Nice. Didn't know that.

>> No.7848665

>>7848631
Agreed. It's really good. Like sequel to d2twid (well after all it has almost same mapper team).

>> No.7848669

>>7844638
You're makin' 64 maps too lad? That's awesome!
More power to ya, man! :)

>> No.7848678

Hello, I enjoyed your disgusting faggot map

>> No.7848684

>>7847992
In the context of 2000, it's accurate. Doom fell to the wayside for a bit in the 00's as all the newer shooters were being released and that initial mapping boom from '96 was gone. It felt like most of the focus had shifted to multiplayer stuff with Skulltag and Zdaemon, with occasional releases.
I'd argue that Brutal Doom and the realization that current FPS of the time were shit led to the eventual revitalization during the early 10's. and that this place and the rip and tear edits were partially responsible for the direction the series is currently going

>> No.7848685

So I played Descent for a couple of hours and the gunplay is good, but the maps are a bit boring. Does it get better or will it just be hallways the entire time?

>> No.7848687

>>7848650
Even by 1997, there was a lot of farewell projects being made.

>> No.7848689

>>7845263
nah, it's a pretty complex and large community without any single typecast, and lots of good things.

some mappers are really unique and unlike anything i know of from any other game.

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greetings from /v/ guys did a bitching job with HFFM also FUCKIN' QUEERS

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Greetings from MLP, you guys did a good job with HFFM, also I gotta call you guys queer to look cool or something, I don't got anything witty.

>> No.7848706

>>7848648
AW FUCK YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THE MAP I WAS WORKING ON IS MOST LIKELY FUCKED? FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCK

>> No.7848709

>>7848706
FUCK A SINGLE LIFT I HAD THAT WAS WORKING IN ZDOOM DOESNT WORK IN PRBOOM+ FUCKKKK

>> No.7848710

>>7848709
My crystal ball tells me you didn't tag it, which gzDoom interpreted the same as door, but PrBoom+ doesn't.

>> No.7848718

>>7848710
FFFUUUU oh hey it actually works now thanks anon.

>> No.7848723

>>7848718
You can tell what needs and doesn't need tags by looking at the tag in action's description.
D means it will ignore tag and affect sector behind it.
S means it requires tags. And so are all the others for that matter.

>> No.7848752

>>7848449
>Fucking terrible compatibility/authenticity for actually playing Doom
What does it mean in practical way besides of recording demos? I don't see any difference from chocolate/boom ports.

>> No.7848763

>>7844637
>and then i'm done updating
what did he mean by this

>> No.7848768

>>7848763
i just won't have time to keep updating, gotta get back to my own stuff. plus, there won't be much left to do anyway

yes i'm still getting 1.1 ready

>> No.7848769

>>7848768
idgames when

>> No.7848771

>>7848769
soon, i guess. i'll go ahead and say i don't have a doomworld account myself but i do have a guy willing to upload himself. also, while the doomworld thread will only advertise the censored version, idgames will have both versions, since idgames is supposed to be an archive after all

>> No.7848772

>>7847872
>Corporation
Never heard of that one

>> No.7848782

>>7847918
It came out in the same year as UT 2004, HL2, Far Cry and VTM:B, you tell us man
I thought F.E.A.R. also came out in that year but turns out that was in 2005

>> No.7848791

>>7848542
>>7848592
Anyway, extra high body counts is more a matter of coming up with genius-tier rendering algorithms rather than organizing existing code well. Some ports like dsda that probably don't have any clever rendering optimizations, can perform tolerably with 10k, but there are still fps drops and it's almost hitting the limits of comfortable play. The difference is that where dsda hits 50-60fps in gzdoom will be 20-40fps. I still want 60fps, and I want to play maps with 80k enemies with 60fps.

>> No.7848808

>>7848454
Could be cool. You could have them travel through the evolution of the genre, starting with Wolf3D (because even I can't stand those old-ass wireframe games), next level is Doom, then Quake, Half Life, starting to get cinematic and then end with some kind of nuDoom-Cowadoody-Battlefield-esque stuff.

>> No.7848824 [DELETED] 

>>7848693
>>7848691
uh where did you niggers her about it

>> No.7848826

>>7848691
>>7848693
was hffm advertised somewhere?

>> No.7848836

>>7848826
Some youtubers played it. Does it count?

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>>7848859
I've been doing this before it was mainstream!

>> No.7848883

>>7848859
>>7848878
Am I crazy, or is that dopefish pic on the monitor a Quake screenshot with the statusbar drawn over?

>> No.7848884

>>7848836
Link?

>> No.7848924

>>7848684
and also death battle and that one 4chan copypasta and faraz parsa's comics
doom's comeback is interesting when you realize it's a product of fans mischaracterizing doomguy because they were jealous that halo got more popular
i feel like that partially explains why the praetor suit makes him look more like master chief
a problem is how it affects marketing, because i fear we get the equivalent of the avengers game not letting thor fuck up a qte sequence or marvel characters being more focused and favored in mvci
it would be pretty dumb if the lack of unique first person deaths in eternal are because "you're supposed to feel powerfull" and not because they just forgot, as if this wasn't a series known for having the protag's face bleeding in the hud of all things
weirder when fans even act like "doomguy is the most tragic character, he's like guts from berserk" as if they didn't complain when eternal gave him pain grunts in 2019.
if anything, doomslayer is more like someone though guts was lame because he struggles too much and isn't perfect

>> No.7848931

>>7847950
>>7847974
>>7848058
Behold, the DooM furniture department store. I have a weird sense of humor, lol. maybe I will post it to doomworld later, idk.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3es57r9rv91stv4/Furniture-store-2.wad?dl=1

>> No.7848945

>>7848771
>idgames will have both versions, since idgames is supposed to be an archive after all

They do state in README.INCOMING that
>5. If you have an idea of something you want to upload but aren't
> sure if it would be accepted here or not, email us before you do
> a bunch of work on it. Also remember that there are other web
> sites that may accept things we would not.
as well as
>7. Files created for the purpose of trolling or spamming the archive will
> be REJECTed (or nuked without a REJECTS entry) on sight. No exceptions.
The Doomworld instruction thread also uses the word "questionable". Maybe it'd be a good idea to ask in advance how they'd judge it.

I have a feeling someone will inevitably argue along the lines of "if the origin of this project involved a slur, how can it NOT be offensive in its core?" in which case they should be given some info about slur usage in 4chan culture and how they're used as common insults, if even insults at all, without much thought placed on their meaning or the people they're being used on. In an anonymous environment it's impossible to know enough about others to know if they even remotely apply or not so they have much less weight than elsewhere.

As far as I can tell there's nothing in the project, its origin or how it's planned to be presented that's intentionally offensive to any particular group when everything relevant is taken into account, but it's a challenge to communicate it so there's minimal room to make baseless assumptions.

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>>7848878
Told ya

>> No.7849019

I wonder if the Doomer Boards guys ever thought of a 2016 Doom project
Because it'd be like a mapset with D4V but they could add 2 more enemies because of the Wolfenstein SS and Keen
Like, if Keen becomes the gore nest, then the PE could be something else
They could also borrow something from Eternal just to fill some slots

>> No.7849031

>>7848883
Looks like an actual Quake screenshot of Whale of Wishes to me.

>> No.7849038

>>7849031
>Whale of Wishes
>Whale
Thar she blows!

>> No.7849062
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>>7845548
>Sprites are still just quick placeholder doodles
lookit them little birdie arms, they're no thicker than a cigarette i could smoke them little arms

>> No.7849073

>>7848617
>Everyone trembles at the sound of his name. Everyone remembers those distant memories of sleepless nights trying to achieve victory. Countless deaths are forgotten in ancient corners. Rivers of blood overflow to give way to oceans of curse. Your flesh is consumed by sin itself. Trapped in marble fortresses, surrounded by hellish castles, deep in gothic hells and exiled in a world of gore.
Was it really that bad if you didn't refuse to use saves or play on a reasonable difficulty? It took me about a day to beat the modern version on HMP. Ammo was tight early on, but I got through it.

>> No.7849080

>>7848654
Can you really call something only lasting three months "cult"?

>> No.7849090

>>7848685
They're mixed up with some open chambers, but I recall the style being pretty uniform.

>> No.7849094

>>7848771
>i do have a guy willing to upload himself
I feel like transhumanist aspirations rarely end well in retro shooters.

>> No.7849107

>>7848808
What's the ending? They escape to a relaxing life simulator?

>> No.7849125

>>7848706
What? Listen, if the map is in vanilla or Boom format, it shouldn't be a huge problem, just test it in the appropriate ports and see what doesn't work as intended, then fix it. I can't imagine ZDoomisms irreparably wrecking a map in its entirety.

>> No.7849128

>>7848454
Sounds to meta an stupid.

>> No.7849130

>>7848454
Could work s a secret level.

Also who is the booba lady model?

>> No.7849162

>>7849062
He's just a kid, Hank. Also, coincidentally, the class was originally called "Bobby".

>> No.7849164

https://twitter.com/DanielWienerson/status/1402877647135252482

>> No.7849172

>>7848620
>>7848585
>>7848538
>>7848525
>>7848449
Why the fuck are you bickering like stupid autistic faggot children over this? We've long since been over this and it's painfully clear that the merits and demerits of either is mostly a matter of subjectivity.

>> No.7849173

>>7848945
idgames has a 18+ section, so I think everything is going to be fine in that regard. There is even a SLUT.wad on the archives!

>> No.7849189

>>7848648
This is why I test my levels in PrBoom+ and GzDoom, to make sure they work and look right in either.

>> No.7849196

>>7848230
Anon has never been to the slums and seen a gay dive. They're very real.

>> No.7849197

>>7849038
Damn it! Last two weeks weren't great for me, sorry. It's difficult to normaly function when you're sick and depressed.

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Added a "pain" state.

>> No.7849267

>>7849173
Sure, but AFAIK they still reject some stuff that has playable content but is "bad taste" according to some definition. The Columbine wads aren't there for example. Of recent entries there's "Rejected laststan.zip because: trollwad". I don't know what it is but could be Dorner's Last Stand. Their criteria could have changed over the years, too.

>> No.7849270

>>7847783
thats cute lol

>> No.7849310

>>7849173
>>7849267
female.wad is in there too, which they'd probably get bitchy about if anybody there remembered it existed.

>> No.7849316

>>7848836
What YouTuber?

>> No.7849319

I want Dwars to play HFFM.

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>>7847918
It's less the timing as much as it was lacking in guns that felt satisfying. The guns do not communicate their power when fired upon enemies in a meaningful way so the game looks really good but the gunplay just takes you out of whatever mood / immersion the audiovisual thematic puts you in.

>> No.7849358

>>7849342
It was more of a tech demo than a compelling FPS.

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>>7848782
F.E.A.R played differently but while it wasn't as spooky as Doom 3,it just destroys the latter in terms of gameplay

>> No.7849364

>>7849358
I feel like the darkness, level / enemy design etc were not "bad", or at least were serviceable enough for a first person shooter.

However as I said, the way the enemies didn't flinch properly or react to being shot, the shotgun feeling neutered and so on so forth made the feeling of gun shooty not satisfying which is a big thing in a shooter. I mean you could call it a tech demo but honestly I would say other elements of DOOM 3 were on point, it's just the actual shooty bit that sucks.

>> No.7849370

a lot of enemies in 3 felt similar and not just because of the encounters
like, most of their attacks felt like they were thoughtout last

>> No.7849371

>>7849363
F.E.A.R was really fucking good with tricking the players into thinking the AI was a lot smarter than it actually was.

>> No.7849372

>>7849370
The impression I got was the gameplay had the least attention, it was all the lighting and shit and design that was the priority.

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>>7849371
But for what they were capable to do,it's still impressive. People forgot that is not just the AI but also the level design,it follows the HECU philosophy.
It's all built around the enemies and not 2 separate works.

FEAR 2 has the same AI but they're braindead because the level design is not the same

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I am going to be the change I want to see. I am going to try to edit shelly sprites.

I thinking of longish more wild hair.

If I cant do anything about teh boring asss lines and story I am at least going to try this.

Problem is there is a whole bunch of editing.

>> No.7849408

>>7849378
>People forgot that is not just the AI but also the level design,it follows the HECU philosophy.
Yeah you can do some neat stuff when the ai and level design are done hand in hand.

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>>7849378
On top of all this,FPS games that came after had a more advanced AI than FEAR but the level designer sucked.
The enemies were incapable to pull off the things they were programmed to do and were limited to the most basic things.

>> No.7849417

Any Doom mods with enemies that try to be FEAR/HECU-like?

>> No.7849431

>>7849417
Some TCs have set pieces for stuff to interact with but nothing as far as monster replacers or other crap that'd generally do it.

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>>7849408
One of my favourite parts of the Replica in FEAR is that they were able to knock a vending machine to create a cover place.
Or the HECU retreating to a different spot because they're seriously injured.

They're soldiers fighting for their life and care about their safety.

>>7849417
Project MSX is pretty similiar with enemy zombies throwing grenades and flank the player.
Nobody Told Me About Id is more Build Engine style but has them,where they crouch as well.

>> No.7849442

>>7849130
Main character
https://twitter.com/DeadGaem/status/1388500959454769160?s=20

>> No.7849445

>>7849210
Have you considered adding flames and fire elementals as enemies in the later levels?

>> No.7849447

i vote on HFFM part deux: the Buck Breaking
with the Mastermind and Barons Dressed as Massa

>> No.7849454

>>7849447
this would be even harder to advertise than regular hffm

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>>7849447
I heard about that thing. The Buck part made me think about the Buck Buck game.

Turns out it was a raceplay domination fetish fuel edited like shit disguised as a documentary

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>>7849062
Just for you I decided to make a Bobby Hill skin.

>>7849445
Kek, that's actually a great idea, I'll see how it works out, but so far it will probably just be other kids.

>> No.7849459

>>7849454
What if HFFM uncensored was released and it was called "Hard Fast Faggot Maps: The Right Version"

>> No.7849461

>>7849107
Fade to black and MC wakes up on a Fortnite battle bus.

>> No.7849480

blade of agony: over six million downloads (and counting)

>> No.7849487

>>7849457
Glorious.

>> No.7849490
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Why can't doomworld just introduce a special forum section for potentially controversial content, with warnings and so? This way they can just move stuff like Dynamite Duchess and HFFM to that subforum without locking the threads, so that people can continue to discuss the stuff.

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The whole topic of BoA reminds me how game devs these days are willing to listen to petty criticism that don't really affect the game that much to others who criticize it,with solid points but actually care about the product,regardless if it's paid or not.

Being so open to listen to a loud minority who most likely don't give a shit about your work but not the vast majority who actually do? Fucking shit is wack

>> No.7849507

Is it possible to make Doom zombiemen shoot and move at the same time?
I assume it's not so much the coding but rather the sprites, which is why it works more with flying enemies

>> No.7849512

>>7849507
Absolutely. While not zombies,I remember the nazis in Project Brutality are capable to do that,same for the soldiers in Project MSX

>> No.7849515

>>7849456
I thought it was /pol/ stumbling into wanting to fuck black dudes after memeing BLACKED too hard but still trying to look dominant, but it's actually some guy pretending he didn't have a fantasy involving slavery
Imagine a Jewish man saying nazis used to rape prisoners and trying too hard to make it common knowledge
Imagine Torm actually adding something like this in BoA
>>7848961
Good thing ZeniMax didn't due

>> No.7849519

>>7849507
Selaco is doing that. You need either 4-8 directions of moving-while-shooting sprites, or to split the sprites into upper and lower body.

>> No.7849523

>>7849490
The don't want it to have a place anywhere, it's not enough to put it where it's only findable if you look for it.

Parallels ZDoom's locking threads down until modders make changes to their mods to appease the clique over there.

I think one think we can learn from a lot of mods if you don't need to be bending over backwards for either of those places, long as you do something decent, stuff will find it's way into people's hands without having to be a PR whore.

>> No.7849565

>>7849519
5-8 I mean. For mirrored angles.

>> No.7849583

>>7849519
>split the sprites into upper and lower body.
Marathon does this, I'm surprised it's so rare. It's an easy way to both show the currently held weapon on players and make moving while shooting less awkward visually.

>> No.7849629

>>7845548
why don't you just use the DN3D super soaker sprite?

>> No.7849635

>>7849457
That boy aint right

>> No.7849638

>>7849583
Couldn't that possibly lead to an effect where the legs are "aimed" at a weird angle, like a robot?
Because it's not the same as the foot aimed directly at front but walking sideways

>> No.7849643

>>7849629
I am making this standalone with 100% selfmade assets (except maybe the fonts, because fuck that shit). Besides that, I am going for a rather cartoon-y look on the player and weapons.
That said, I can't even remember a super soaker in DN3D.

>> No.7849654

>>7849643
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7euVuajWAqU

>> No.7849667

>>7847970
>Whats not fine is mods being taken down not because their content is hateful or malicious, but because the admins happened to find it icky.
I've got more interesting hills to die on than defending somebody's edgy Doom wad lmao
>You fail to feel empathy for people who do enjoy such mods, and you fail to see how this trend could become a slippery slope.
Sure lol

>> No.7849669

>>7849654
lmao nice, that totally passed by me.
But that model wouldn't fit here, especially since I have already modeled the Supra Drencher after the best Super Soaker ever, the 200 series.

>> No.7849693

>>7849638
IIRC Marathon just keeps the legs facing forward no matter which direction you're actually moving, but diagonally-angled legs probably wouldn't look too weird even for purely horizontal strafing, you could also play the run cycle in reverse when moving in the 3 backwards directions, I think Marathon did that when you were running backwards, at least. It's been a while since I played multiplayer Marathon.

>> No.7849727

>>7849490
What's stopping you from making a new forum?

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CD3.wad

>> No.7849805

>>7849490
I could easily see that just ending up being post-hell 2.0 without locked threads. I doubt they would want that.

>> No.7849818

>>7849797
What source port?

>> No.7849847

https://www.moddb.com/mods/blanket-doom
This map pack has textures missing, anyone familiar with the files I would need?

>> No.7849848

>>7849818
gz

>> No.7849851

>>7849583
You still need 5-8 torso sprites per weapon per character.

It seems like you could split sprites further, and have base torso sprites for holding weapons of particular shapes, then be able to separately draw weapon sprites as long as they fit the shape. But I've never heard of that being done.

>> No.7849861

>>7849847
The description says "I personally play with Brutal Doom 2.0b, The PSX music, DHTP Textures, using GZDooM."
Dont know what DHTP textures is, but that may be what you need.

>> No.7849863
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7849863

>>7848772
Okay now that I saw some vids on YT about it I need to ask this - whats the deal with the almost naked mannequins on the sides of screen?

>> No.7849871

>>7849210
I somehow love the way how the drawn water pistol looks like a peeled zucchini ;^)

>> No.7849895

>>7849871
As mentioned before, this is still just a placeholder to set up everything properly. After that I will redo them all (except for the player sprites, I like the kid, but of course he still lacks shading).

>> No.7849934

>>7849863
my guess is that they intentionally gave it a clinical, medical textbook-y look to match the fact that it represents literal health

>> No.7849956

>>7849863
>virgin games

>> No.7849958

Does anyone here have a working link to blade of agony V3? Moddb link and Realm 667 links are both dead.

>> No.7849979

>>7849958
https://www.playground.ru/wolfenstein_3d/file/wolfenstein_3d_syuzhetnyj_mod_blade_of_agony-1104426

>> No.7849982

>>7849979
>https://www.playground.ru/wolfenstein_3d/file/wolfenstein_3d_syuzhetnyj_mod_blade_of_agony-1104426

thx broski

>> No.7849987

>>7849982
np

>> No.7850021

>>7849851
No reasony you couldn't. You could also just palette swap the weapon if the main concern is identification.

>> No.7850065

>>7849727
It's hard, expensive, it will need advertisement, and it's less convenient in that you can't just move thread to another forum and I doubt admins will say "hey go to that one forum to discuss this mod".

>> No.7850086

>>7846512
Fought what might be the Hell Guardians, these hunchback goat things shooting 5 Mancubi balls

>> No.7850107

>>7849490
Because its not about controversial content. Its about shutting you up. Wherever you are.

>> No.7850134
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7850134

CAN SOMEONE
MOTHER FUCKING TELL ME
WHAT THE MOTHER FUCKING NIGGER SHIT FUCK
IS FUCKING WRONG HERE
IM TRYING TO MAKE
THE FUCKING SUPERCHARGE ASSAULT RIFLE
REPLACE THE GODDAMN CHAINGUN BY FUCKING DEFAULT
AND IT DOESNT
MOTHER
FUCKING
WANNA
WORK
TELL ME BEFORE I PUNCH MY FUCKING SCREEN

AND THEN THE FUCKING RETARD TELLING ME EVERY SINGLE THREAD
>HURR MAKE YOUR OWN WEAPON MOD DURRRR
FUUUUUUUCKKK
OOOOFFFFF

>> No.7850148

>>7850134
Settle down, spaz. First off, don't do that weird WEAPON 2845683 shit. Just do weapon replaces chaingun. Have you been consulting other mods that aren't stupid in how they do this shit?

>> No.7850154

>>7850134
>>7850148
the number after weapon should be the last in the order not before anything.
cuz that number is the thing id for map editors to analyze so that can be added in game.

>> No.7850170
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7850170

>>7850148
NOW IT GIVES ME THIS
WHY
WONT
YOU
MOTHER
FUCKING
WORK

>> No.7850184

>>7850134
There is an option for that in the SC menu. Make your own weapon mod you loser.

>> No.7850187

>>7850107
I think most people who are doing this are not thinking very hard about it. This is just part of culture they happen to learn from, it's almost intuitive for them to get triggered by certain bad things and bitch about it in a certain way. There is no coordinated conspiracy they are consciously partaking.

>> No.7850189

>>7848090
>>7848083

dudes there's a mod on gzdoom called precise crosshair
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=64788
i fucking LOVE this shit. you can have it on so the crosshair jumps up and down so you don't rocket your feet with novert aiming, and with autoaim set to 0 it gives you an actually accurate representation of exactly where your shots are going to go when you freelook

>> No.7850192

>>7850134
Is the Supercharge AR not already the default slot 4 weapon? Or are both able to be used in gameplay?

>> No.7850195
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7850195

>>7850134
>>7850170
>he's actually doing something
I don't have any valuable advice for you, but godspeed you magnificent bastard. Don't give up and perhaps eventually you'll make something amazing.

>> No.7850206

>>7850189
Yo this Zagemod is pretty fucking cool. Thanks for the link incidentally.

>> No.7850214

>>7850195
FUCK
YOU

>> No.7850224

>>7850170
Jesus Christ calm down you fucking sperg.
Sometimes what GZD shows to be the error isn't necessarily congruent with the actual error, i.e. it sometimes shows the wrong line when a few lines before you forgot a curly boi or a quote, because honestly I can't see anything wrong with your code here. Can you post the whole code?

>> No.7850227
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7850227

>>7850206
This is fucking excellent, how have I NEVER heard of this what the fuck. The Quake weapons on display here blow the fuck out any other Quake pwad I've seen.

>> No.7850228

>>7850170
No wait, I am just seeing you didn't inherit from anything, why not?
Try
Actor TangoAssaultRifle : DoomWeapon replaces Chaingun

>> No.7850235

>>7850189
wait so does this work universally with all weapon wads? zscript is weird mang

>> No.7850238

>>7850187
Its does not need a coordinated conspiracy it just needs egos.

>> No.7850246

Any people with MBF DeHackEd experience know why this aint working? I'm trying to spawn a bullet puff thing that will act like a rocket trail.

thing 34 "Rocket in flight"
{
clear states
states
{
Spawn:
MISL A 1 Bright A_Spawn(38,8)
Loop
Death:
MISL B 3 Bright A_Explode
MISL CDEFG 3 Bright
Stop
}
}

>> No.7850249

>>7850246
Oh fuck forgot to mention that I'm using DecoHack which is why the code has this syntax, the important part is the A_Spawn codepointer

>> No.7850252

>>7849669
Give it a play some time, it's a single episode, and though it's largely just more Duke Nukem 3D gameplay, the tropical vacation theme is extremely cheerful and well done.

>> No.7850254
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7850254

>>7850228
FINALLY
THANK FUCK
thank (You)

>> No.7850258

>>7850235
yeah, i use this with final doomer and voyage infernal all the time, its in my always-load list with the hud and autoautosave

>> No.7850260

>>7849727
Hosting isn't free.

>> No.7850262

>>7849727
Or he could start a Doom group on Parler. That'd be pretty easy.

>> No.7850265

>>7850246
>>7850249
I had the wrong complevel set, that was dumb. Another question though, if I lengthen the duration of the spawn state (i.e. MISL A 2) will that mess with collision or anything? I just don't want the puffs spawning every single tic.

>> No.7850270

>>7850254
Protip: Instead of chimping out like a 2004 Xbox live kid, you should first try and read the wiki, you dumb nigger.
For example https://zdoom.org/wiki/Using_inheritance

>> No.7850271

>>7850206
>>7846331
>>7846413
Does anybody know how to remove the height changes that Final Doomer, and apparently this Zagemod apply? Doomguy should not be as tall as an archvile. Where could I look in Slade to delete these height changes?

>> No.7850283

>>7850214
Ah fuck you Leatherman. Maybe you and I should settle it right here in the ring if you think you're tough?

>> No.7850287

>>7845402

>> No.7850298

>>7850287
>>7845402
Like the monsters from the uncensored version of HFFM in their own wad so you can play through other wads with the flamboyantly gay monsters? That should be really easy to make, all you would need to do is open up slade and delete everything from the HFFM_uncut.wad that isn't the monsters and tweak the .bex file so it only has the monster roll-call string changes. In fact give me like 30 minutes, I'll do it

>> No.7850309

>>7850298
Are you going to include the sprite edits too? Remember to make the Invulnerability have purple eyes if you are.

>> No.7850315

Can someone point me to a monster or general thing that spawns projectiles in a circular fashion around it?
I am trying to work out something with A_SpawnItemex, but everything just goes into the same direction.

>> No.7850326

>>7850227
What map?

>> No.7850329

>>7850298
Holy BASED

>> No.7850330

>>7850326
Map03 of Whitemare 2.

>> No.7850334

>>7850309
Yeah, might as well. If anyone knows how to mass-select stuff in Slade, tell me because it's really painful crtl-clicking about 700 textures and flats. Luckily FullHomo and the original NMH anon organized this so all of the sprite edits are at the bottom, so if there's a way to mass select please tell me

>> No.7850346

anyone got any sources on how to edit a map without using mapedit? trying to change the sky texture and level music atm.

>> No.7850351

>>7850334
Select the uppermost item and hold ctrl and down. Easier than clicking.

>> No.7850379
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7850379

Happy birthday to the most disappointing FPS sequel!!!

>> No.7850380

>>7850187
'Useful idiots' is the term you're looking for on that one.

>> No.7850382

>>7850315
nvm now it works.

>> No.7850386

>>7850351
You mean shift?
You can also shift-click like with other files.

>> No.7850389

>>7850271
Anyone? Surely it's not that difficult.

>> No.7850394

>>7850334
Holding Shift+PgDn used to work for me, but the new version disabled it I think

>> No.7850402

>>7850187
there's also a saying "if you keep seeing too many dog whistles, you might be the dog"
they assume certain things can easily propagate to people, as project to how vulnerable they actually are
>>7850254
what was it you were doing again?
just changing weapon sprites or...
>>7850379
after some weeks were a dev got his twitter shut down after revealing some images
randy, you bastard

>> No.7850415
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7850415

First successul sprinkler test finished. They can be placed on the map and used as environmental hazards upon activation.

>> No.7850458

>>7850379
It's been talked to death but man what a fucking disaster.
Every kind of defense can be easily shut down.

It's either about the humor or expectations.
The game feels more dated in terms of references and overall pales in comparison to other shooters that came out around the time.

>> No.7850469
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7850469

>>7845402
>>7850287
>>7850298
>>7850309
All done, tested it real quick in GZDoom and prboom+, seems to work perfectly, same with the .bex file. You can now appreciate these works of arts in any wad as long as it doesn't change monster sprites, some of the item pick up sprites, the monster roll-call and item pick up strings, or the difficulty levels.
https://x0.at/cRLE.zip
>>7850351
>>7850394
Didn't work for me, so I suffered and manually deleted everything. Worth it tho

>> No.7850478
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7850478

On the topic of HFFM.
It's funny to me how Russia is actually one of the biggest producers of Gachi memes considering how gays are seen there

>> No.7850489

>>7850469
Rad, thanks.

>> No.7850495

>>7850478
isn't that like how japan can produce a lot of horny content, despite putting genetalia behind pixels?
it's a matter of a taboo aspect and prohibition not always working, i guess

>> No.7850501

>>7850478
Things here are not as straightforward as you might think

>> No.7850508

>>7850495
I guess. Reminds me how japanese movies are filled with blood fountains and over the top gore but when a game from another country feature a decapitation or headshots,they're censored.

>>7850501
Fr?

>> No.7850519
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>> No.7850535

>>7850519
Problably one of the few artworks by Shadman that I like. Take the chromatic aberration and is much better

>>7850508
Not just that,dismemberment of any kind too.
And it's exclusive just to games

>> No.7850541

>>7850535
>Shadman
welp, guess i'm not using this as the next OP

>> No.7850546

>>7850271
Bumping

>> No.7850547

>>7850541
Why not?

>> No.7850549

>>7850547
that's one way to derail a thread before it starts

>> No.7850554

>>7850549
Why what happened?

>> No.7850568

turns out fudge packers inc. will need some fixing. the author seems long gone so i'll have to do that myself

>> No.7850574

>>7850508
>>7850535
If I recall, it's basically because their equivalents of Jack Thompson won after some school killings in the 90s made the japanese gigaboomers mad at video games, so now CERO has retardedly strict rules for videogame violence.

>> No.7850580

Is there any kind of Actor Property or Flag that makes a weapon's ammo count not being drawn on the HUD?

>> No.7850581

>>7850554
Anon,it's Shadman.
People are gonna focus on the OP and talk about it.
The artist has an history of being a creep,both as a person and his art.

>> No.7850586

>>7850581
You dance to the tune of ghosts. I would post it I would not care if the thread lasted more or less.

>> No.7850591

>>7850478
And they suck at making Gachimuchi Pants Wrestling content.

>> No.7850597

>>7850574
IIRC is a mix of that but also cultural thing.

>Headshot/Decapitation
They say that the sould is stored in the head or something like that

>Dismemberment
Something tied to the Yakuza where they cut your fingers for not being respectful to an high ranking member

>>7850586
With a title called >Freeman

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7850613

>>7850478
Russia in general knows there is a clear distinction between natural homosexuality and degenerate westerners 'gay lifestyle' brain posion - its pretty similar to how Japan and rest of far asian countries deal with exact topic on cultural level (but they go an extra mile by removing any homosex references in public space and media)...
>Not Vidya
Have a random pic of some custom minifig based on an obscure Quake2 addon (from the creators of Aftershock for Quake1) as compensation for my ramblings :)

>> No.7850626

>>7850379
>sequel to one of the timeless greats, one of the gold star examples of first person shooters
>is an incredible disappointment which felt badly dated at the time and feels even more dated now, close to zero redeeming qualities
And I thought Highlander was cursed with bad sequels. Which it is, but still.

>> No.7850634

>>7850469
You're a real stud, anon.

>>7850508
CERO really had a pretty catastrophic effect on Japanese media.

>> No.7850659

they could've so easily pulled a samurai jack season 4 thing with dnf and have it take place in a post alien takeover of earth with an older duke in hiding finally deciding to fight back and reclaim his glory etc. it's so obvious and would've been a way to give its real-life development hell some in-game resonance. but alas game developers are retards

>> No.7850672

>>7850659
There are several way they could've handled that game.
DNF's invasion felt kinda there. There was almost no panic,everything felt forced and worst of all it was boring. The first 20 minutes are nothing but exposition.

Make the beginning a regular battle where you fight the aliens,basic stuff to learn the mechanics and then you wake up and break free from the simulation the aliens put you in

>> No.7850740

So Witchaven is coming in an enchanced edition to Steam this month. It's still running on DOSBox. Will it be the preferred way to play or is the BuildGDX still the way to go?

>> No.7850758

>>7850581
Yeah no shit. The artwork is completely SFW and doesnt even have his sig though.

>> No.7850762

>>7850740
It uses DOSBOX, but with a bugfixed version of the game called EGWhaven. Which you can already find for free.
BuildGDX comparatively has high-res/widrescreen/FOV options, but all the original bugs.

>> No.7850764

hello,
prboom+ has crackling/popping audio clipping. particularly noticeable when firing the chain gun, or when stairs rise up. How do I fix this?

>> No.7850774

>>7850762
I see, thanks.

>> No.7850801
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>>7849635
I'll tell ya what.

>> No.7850810

>>7850379
Name a better 2010's fps you can't.

>> No.7850819

>>7850810
Jackie Chan

>> No.7850826
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7850826

Mmm, based?

>> No.7850829

>>7849457
This boy is not correct,he's flawed

>> No.7850837 [DELETED] 

>>7850810
Bioshock 2
New Vegas

>> No.7850841

>>7850826
That level felt closer to SS 1 and was problably my favourite parts of the game.
That's why it felt so familiar to me on how it was structured

>> No.7850847

>>7850810
Singularity, Metro 2033, and Bioshock 2, now shut up.

>> No.7850849

>>7850764
2.5.1.4 or 2.6? try toggling windows sonic

>> No.7850857

>>7850469
We didn't deserve Sprite Anon

>> No.7850858

>>7850810
new vegas, bad company 2, bioshock 2, black ops, i think socom came out that year too.
literally any other 2010s shooter works really

>> No.7850859

>>7850837
>>7850847
>No love for Titanfall 2

>> No.7850883

>>7850810
FPS which are better than Duke Nukem Forever? In all of the 2010s?
>Doom 4
>Shadow Warrior
>Far Cry 3
>Wolfenstein The New Order
>Rage (yes, unironically)
>Portal 2
>Rise Of The Triad

DNF was easily the worst first person shooter of the decade.

>> No.7850890

How do I pop a door buster in hideous destructor? It says to signal 999 but I can't seem to do it despite binding my IED keys

>> No.7850894

>>7850740
Nobody wants to play Witchhaven

>> No.7850904

Did HFFM come from one of those thread word bubbles? I kind of remember something like that.

>> No.7850907

>>7850904
Yeah

>> No.7850909
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7850909

>The fact DNF came out a year after Halo Reach
>The last good Halo game
>Takes a shot to Halo despite ripping off its mechanics
>Puts a Dead Space reference
>Which is just replacing "Doomed Space Marine" with "Dead Space Marine"
>The protagonist in those games wasn't even a marine

How do you fuck up this badly

>> No.7850917
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7850917

>>7850904
Yes, at first it was just funny, but then the idea of making some balls hard maps and just calling them that was too funny to pass up.

>> No.7850924

>>7850810
Serious Sam 3 came out the same year and was a million times better than Duke Nukem Forever.

>> No.7850927

>>7850849
I’ll try that thanks

>> No.7850935

>>7849863
Oh hay I played this on the Megadrive, it was fucking weird.

>> No.7850956

>>7850659
You think they should have restarted the game from scratch again?

>>7850672
How would they convince players they were actually out of the simulation? Why not just have a flashback or time skip again?

>> No.7850957

>>7850924
Looking back the early 2010s were such a mixed bag in terms of quality

>> No.7850969

>>7850858 >>7850883
Earlier a guy was saying Aliens: Colonial Marines was worse, so there's some dispute.

>> No.7850979

>>7850909
>reach
>good

>> No.7850982

>>7850956
Maybe everything starts glitching out or Duke has the feeling of deja vu where the exact same things happened for days.

The time skip seems to be the most liked option by several fans where Duke is old and out of date with modern audience,especially because there haven't been a new invasion for decades,only when it happens he finds his strength again

>> No.7850990

>>7850956
what we got was an abortion so yeah i think something fresh with the slightest bit of self awareness would've been better

>> No.7850994

>>7850979
I liked it,still prefer it over 4 and 5

>> No.7851000

Power Armor is for pussies

>> No.7851008
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>>7850469
neat

>> No.7851019

>>7851000
i love how dnf duke keeps rejecting things he used casually in dn3d just cause the devs didn't wanna program armor into the janky cod ripoff health system they went with

>> No.7851023

Duke Nukem but his life is like Bojack Horseman

>> No.7851024

Is there a way to activate/deactivate a switchable decoration with just a switch line special?

>> No.7851028
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7851028

>>7849107
>What's the ending? They escape to a relaxing life simulator?
They do a walking simulator as last stage of the game with final boss being a QTE sequence.

>> No.7851031

>>7851019
duke saying "i don't need key cards" or whatever that one scene was is the equivalent of the "not in a million years" wig scene from dmc:dmc

>> No.7851045

>>7850890
did you make sure to specify "db 999"?

>> No.7851062

>>7851045
No, how do I do that?

>> No.7851063

>>7851000
>proceeds two drink two cans of beer and become completely shitfaced

>> No.7851070

>>7851062
type in console:
bind [key] "db 999"

>> No.7851076

>>7851070
Thanks!

>> No.7851084

>>7851062
IED kits and doorbusters are two different things. IEDs are the rocket grenades with the thing on top, doorbusters are the metal caps. Doorbusters don't have a keybind in the menu, but when you place one it should say to enter db 999 into console to detonate.

>> No.7851087

>>7851019
The ego system/health bar was conceptually one of the dumbest mechanics I've ever seen in a game.
How the hell Duke taking damage makes him feel less important or less of a man but doing random useless shit increases his ego?
They just didn't think about didn't they?

>>7851063
>Can't handle more than 4 weapons
>Loses consciousness twice in the entire game

>> No.7851095

>>7851063
That shit pissed me off a lot, he shouln't be a lightweight like that.

>>7851087
>used to just casually run at olympic speed, no problem maintaining it indefinitely
>now gets winded from jogging like 20ft

>> No.7851096

>>7850849
That didn’t help. I’m on 2.6.
every single sound effect has a short ‘tic’ or pop at the end of its cycle. Weirdest thing, makes the game unplayable imo

>> No.7851112

i literally didn't like duke3d as a kid and always majorly preferred doom but then dnf came out which really made me appreciate it

>> No.7851140

>>7851096
FWIW toggling windows sonic helped me with Crispy Doom sound problems.

Try DSDA-Doom, as it is a fork of PrBoom 2.6. Or try a fresh download of 2.6? If all else fails, you can use GZDoom.

>> No.7851145

https://uberduck.ai/#voice=quake-3-arena-announcer
you can make the quake 3 announcer say things
>need to sign in
kinda sucks

>> No.7851178

>>7851095
A game about a has-been Duke who gears up for one final fight could've been kino af but the game would need to be self aware about it something.

But I'm still probably gonna buy DNF because it's not like we're going to get new Douk games anymore.

>> No.7851187

>>7851178
Honestly a classic Duke would work as well. You just need talented people.
But old duke would be nice since well old badass people who might be has beens, that over the course of the adventure do a similar journey of self discovery like the traditional young hero, but with wisdom and surpassing their physical frailties with cunning.

Are cool and rare as fuck.

>> No.7851201

>>7850883
>DNF was easily the worst first person shooter of the decade
Exaggeration to match the hype maybe, but untrue.

>> No.7851213

>>7851201
DNF sucks but I feel there was so much worse.

>> No.7851215

>>7851178
At this point I'd meta the story about Duke trying to correct some past mistake. Bring some alternate universe travel into it and have him revisit a few places like land of the babes or what not... If you couple that with an actual story and don't make it depressing pseudo artistic dogshit I think you could do well by duke.

>> No.7851225
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7851225

NOLF kneels to it too.

>> No.7851236

>>7851225
I love HL but in the end I guess innovation has to bend the knee more to tech possibilities.

And slowly innovation catch up to the smooth sailing of more simple presentation.

But honestly with time, I am really in love with Thief and SS2 heavy fucking balls to do a stealth game, rpg elements. I feel like their pioneering helped other videogames dream of something bigger.

>> No.7851238

>>7851225
Tbh,is better doing something already done but well than trying too hard to be "innovative".

>> No.7851257

Jesus Fucking Christ, I just made A_SpawnItemEx's angles work, and now it doesn't work with A_SpawnParticle. No matter what I do they always only go in the same direction.. I am now going to bad, I'm so done.

>> No.7851320
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7851320

Are there any al-Qaeda themed wads or mods?

>> No.7851326
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>>7850909
>power armor is for pussies!

>> No.7851343

>>7851320
You know one of these days I gonna replay delta force and project igi, and ghost recon.

Just to relive those bullshit shooters trying to be all operator. I guess they did it more honesty than modern shit anyway. But there have been some sim shooters recently.

Man I miss classic rainbow six.

>> No.7851374

>>7851343
I don't wish to play operator sir, i wish to slaughter infidels with the Kalashnikov

>> No.7851404

>>7851201
Maybe there's some completely cocktastic indie release in the past decade, but I can't think of anything remotely mainstream which is so bad as a game itself on top of being such a horrible sequel.

>> No.7851405

where the hell is the new thread?

>> No.7851435

>>7849523
>Parallels ZDoom's locking threads down until modders make changes to their mods to appease the clique over there.
wait when did this happen?

>> No.7851438

>>7851405
Make it DNF themed

>> No.7851459

>>7851438
DNF isn't retro.

>> No.7851461
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Fine, i'll make it myself

>> No.7851464

>>7851461
Already making it.

>> No.7851465

>>7851464
Ok thanks

>> No.7851478

Fresh bread

>>7851472
>>7851472
>>7851472

bread Fresh

>> No.7851541

>>7851112
By comparison?

>> No.7851547

>>7850990
I feel like if you're going to scrap everything that was being developed under the title Duke Nukem Forever, why call it Duke Nukem Forever? If you're scrapping the work put in rather than trying to salvage it, you might as well make whatever game you want.

There's probably some middle ground in wanting to reuse old material in a new context. But I think Gearbox's approach was pretty openly "we're doing the bare minimum to get this mess we inherited out the door and behind us".

>> No.7851563

>>7851178
Not even pirate it? I hope you're at least holding out for it to be under $5 again; and playing every other Duke game and fan episode first.

>> No.7851565

>>7851225
innovation fetishists btfo

>> No.7851575

>>7851225
>We were determined not to repeat those mistakes on our next project.
What mistakes? Ones in Sanity: Aiken's Artifact?

>> No.7851713

>>7851343
There's a trend lately of fans making new games "in the spirit of" classic games. Maybe Rainbow Six will get its turn.

>> No.7851718

>>7851459
Early preview DNF was.

>> No.7851901

>>7845631
I'm a chad who maps for old-school vanilla so I don't bother with texture alignment as much.