/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7701674
For me, it's GBA

>>7701674

PS1 has all the bug fixes and keeps the original's difficulty so that's what I'd go with.

Honestly no one will agree on what's the best version they all have their strengths and weaknesses.

>>7701681
I like that version too.

>>7701690
How is the wonderswan version?

>>7701674
PS1 or wonderswan

>>7701757
But if you want the original experience, i should recommend you this
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/4868/

I love the music in FF Origins remake.

>>7701674
The real question is which is the best version of FFII

>>7701749
Wonderswan is similar to the PS1 but with a smaller view and no Kanji option or easy mode.

>>7701674
NES obviously.

>>7701930
Why?

NES because it's the original, unless you know Japanese in which case you should go Famicom of course. There's no reason not to play the original; if you want a newer version of FF1 then play one of the ten or twenty sequels you dope, that's what they're there for

>>7701981
The Famicom is the original no matter how much you try to twist it.

>>7701674
I tried 5 hours on the nes version, I enjoyed it, but it had so many issues that weren't worth the hassle. Switched to PSP and no regrets. I actually preferred the nes graphics but the QoL improvements in the PSP version make it so much better.

>>7702071

Obviously you dumb idiot. That's why I said "of course". You're arguing against nothing. We all know that it's generally best to know the original language and that most of us don't know Japanese. These things are obvious and you don't need to be all touchy about defending them. Everybody with any sense already agrees with you. Just don't post anymore, for one year. Try that and see whether you even survive it. You just might.

>>7701674

The best version is NES/Famicom BUT you have to be about eleven years old when you play and you have to have never played any game like this before except Dragon Quest 1. If you can't set all that up then the only reason left to play this game is historical interest, which you obviously don't have even the tiniest amount of if you're considering playing any of its crappy remakes. So don't play it at all in that case.

>>7701674
PS1
>no the original where half the spells don't work is the best because it was first!
Die

>>7701930
Sure, but only if you are to play it on an CRT with RF/composite video for "soul" purposes. Otherwise, there are a lot better versions to choose from.

Toss up between PS1 and GBA for me
PS1 still has the original magic system and a few FMVs
GBA is good if you don't like the old spell system, and has new dungeons and bosses
both of them include FF2 as well so that's a sweet deal

>>7702629
nah NES is great. The rapid color swaps when you open the menu are worth it.

What would make someone prefer the GBA versions of I&II over the PSP ones just curious?

>>7703272
they aren't bundled together as one game, is the main thing

>>7703272
>never had a PSP
>me and brother had GBA SPs
>borrow Crystal Chronicles from him
>never got into the original when playing it on an NES emulator back when I was really young, but now I'm at a place where I have lots of free time and nothing else to do
>it's pretty fun, it's a bit more like the SNES ones, which I'm more familiar with
I'm also just a huge sucker for 16-bit and 32-bit 2D graphics in general.

>>7701674
ps1 or wonderswan

The difficulty is one thing, but the real tragedy is that they just straight up replace the original vancian magic system with typical MP shit, that's what really bothers a lot of people about the GBA/PSP versions

>>7702536
Ow, the edge.

>>7701674
>Best graphics goes to psp version
...Look at this picture. See everything wrong with it. Absorb it. Now, wanna know the real funny part? That was actually Final Fantasy IV, widely considered the PEAK of the PSP remakes. And if you think that's something, the PSP remake introduces its subpar mediocrity before you even start the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO-SrskvGi0 - note the intro clouds get simplified in each major rerelease, from most dynamic on WonderSwan Color to flat cardboard on PlayStation Portable. Awe at the lazy "underpaid intern" quality of the crystal animation capping it off, which now has to glisten contantly and throw the accompanying sound effect off track. Etc.

Bro, fuck the spell charge system! If you actually prefer it over MP you are a fucking retard! You have no taste in RPGs! Spell charges were a mistake!!! Thats why they rectified it in literally every single FF after, and in the remakes! There's nothing redeeming about spell charges! You think you're fucking so cool because you prefer being able to use heal two times only for the next 10 levels? Fuck you! I can use heal 10 times on my version, and next level, I can use it 12 times. You're not cool because you like playing boring and tedious versions of games!

>>7705553
>BThats why they rectified it in literally every single FF after, and in the remakes!

>>7705553
But FF3 used spell charges as well.
Spell charges gives more value to the single spells and encourages strategic thinking over blind spamming.

>>7705558
FF3 is better balanced in every single way though, fuck NES FF1, but I'll play NES FF3 any day.

>>7705560
It basically just means "save all magic for boss fights or else you'll be empty by then oh and if you don't use any magic against wild encounters you'll also be dead by then"

>>7701674
Since you will likely need answers for the other games later on here you go op screencap this post.

Ff1 and 2- ps1 ff origins

Ff3- nes with english translation and free class change patch

Ff4- snes with namingway patch

Ff5- snes with gba script patch

Ff6- snes with ted woolsey uncensored patch

Ff7- pc with ps1 translation and concept art textures mod

Ff8- pc with upscale mod

Ff9- pc with moguri mod

Ff10- hd version

Ff11- eden private server

Ff12- zodiak age

Ff13- no kidding, actually dont

Ff14- 1.0

Ff15- pc

>>7701928
>Wonderswan is similar to the PS1 but with a smaller view
Actually the PS1 version stretches everything taller so you're not seeing that much more of the screen than you think. Another benefit of the WS version is just how lightning-fast it is compared to PS1 and other versions, and the chiptune-style music fits this type of game more. WS is lowkey the best version.

>>7705657
>screencap my shit-taste
I mean, if you insist.

If you play any version of FF1 that has MP instead of the more interesting spell slots system, throw it in the fucking garbage and play something better. Best version IMO is NES with bugfix romhacks (there are loads of stats and battle mechanics that aren't working correctly in the original).

>>7705657
I agree with FFIII but what's the voodoo shit with everything else? FYI, there are THREE complete English patches out there. For FFIII, the one you want is Chaos Rush's. The other two are pretty dated.

>>7705553
that but unironical

>>7705716
I am giving him the best first time experience for each. You dont want to play sone games as they released ff1,2,3,4,5,6,10, or 12 but they usually get it right upon rereleases or fan help. Usually fan help. You could absolutely still play or enjoy the first release of any of them as folks did, but if you want the best version of each thats it there you go

>>7705735
>You could absolutely still play or enjoy the first release of any of them as folks did, but if you want the best version of each thats it there you go
What do all those English patches actually offer over the original Japanese releases?

>>7702536
You're absolutely right, anon. Unless there's a patch I'm not aware of the PS1 is the definitive version.

>>7705774
Japanese is a dry as hell language. I prefer the jap version of 1,3,5, and 8 for their simplicity, but the flavor added into the localizations or fan translations of the rest is to me superior.

>>7705657
>>7705735
Well I take issue with your SNES recs.
>Ff4- snes with namingway patch
Do not, I repeat, do not play any patch using the US version as a base. Play Spooniest's "J2Evisceration" if you want a complete restoration due to using the JP ROM.
>Ff5- snes with gba script patch
This is a lazy edit of the base RPGe patch without Leet Sketcher / noisecross corrections. Spooniest's "Legend of the Crystals" patch got souped-up recently and is looking like the definitive way to play.
>Ff6- snes with ted woolsey uncensored patch
Overrated, being first at something isn't always good. Play ROSE (Revised Old Style Edition) or hairy_hen's retranslation when the update comes out.
The rest depends on what type of gamer you are. If you play VANILLA, just play the originals. These games mostly aren't designed for modern HD and so graphical faults that were previously hidden become more apparent, especially in VII's case. I think VII's graphical mods look weird as hell with battle proportions in the overworld, but you do you. VII's retranslation is available for PS1 too BTW, though I haven't tried it so I can't speak for its quality over the original.
>>7705826
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5597/

>>7705875
t. someone obviously not fluent in either

>>7705886
>>>7705657 (You)
>>>7705735 (You)
>Well I take issue with your SNES recs.
>>Ff4- snes with namingway patch
>Do not, I repeat, do not play any patch using the US version as a base. Play Spooniest's "J2Evisceration" if you want a complete restoration due to using the JP ROM.
Oh you mean like how the namingway patch uses the jap version or am just to assume you are being intentionally misleading?

>>Ff5- snes with gba script patch
>This is a lazy edit of the base RPGe patch without Leet Sketcher / noisecross corrections. Spooniest's "Legend of the Crystals" patch got souped-up recently and is looking like the definitive way to play.
No thanks ill take a proper translation over fanon.

>>Ff6- snes with ted woolsey uncensored patch
>Overrated, being first at something isn't always good. Play ROSE (Revised Old Style Edition) or hairy_hen's retranslation when the update comes out.
Enjoy the lyrics not matching the music in the opera. Also enjoy needless fanon shit that all other translations seem to have to put in these days. Sometimes first really is best senpai.

>The rest depends on what type of gamer you are. Etc etc
>>>7705826
>https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5597/
7s retranslation on pc is horrendous and very much lacks soul inherent in the english port. Stick to the ps1 script. And the concept art mod, pic related, called i believe "new models" makes the game look like moving nomura art. Its nuts and it is to me a fine addition to the game so as to not have to see the horribly ugly even for the time untextured characters running about. And does include chibi versions as well as battle models


>>7705889
>>>7705875 (You)
>t. someone obviously not fluent in either
Its a very direct language. It is to the point which is nice in some ways and bad in others. It isnt an inpenetrable language anon i bet even you could learn it if you actually tried to.

>>7706037
>Enjoy the lyrics not matching the music in the opera.
Is there an English version with Japanese karaoke or something?

>>7705558
and ff3 sucks major ass, who would've guessed

>>7706037
I hate that I have to be the one to reveal this to you so late in your life, but the official translations are full of inaccuracies that ALSO are not canon. The only qualitative difference between Teddy boy's and others is that he had to be rushed and that he was paid. Just because he wrote something for people who didn't know better does not make it inherently valuable. There IS no inherent value in it.

>>7705565
Final Fantasy III railroads you into having an MP casting character to get past those mini and toad sections. Fuck that shit.

>>7706074
Every time I see "the game railroads you!" I know you're a retard. This is such a non point I don't even know where to begin. The implication that you wouldn't already have a magic character anyway even though you only have two non magic classes available to begin with... the fact that you can unequip spells and don't even need to keep the spells after you first enter the area... yeah, you're a retard.

>>7706037
>fine addition
They completely clash with the 3D environments in-battle. They’re a nice idea, though—and I think they look neat as hell.

>>7706037
>>>Ff4- snes with namingway patch
>>Do not, I repeat, do not play any patch using the US version as a base. Play Spooniest's "J2Evisceration" if you want a complete restoration due to using the JP ROM.
>Oh you mean like how the namingway patch uses the jap version or am just to assume you are being intentionally misleading?
Suck my balls you disingenuous fuckwit.

>>7701879
unlike FF1, FF2 gets better with every remake.

>>7706037
>No thanks ill take a proper translation over fanon.
Pictured: your idea of "a proper translation"
>Enjoy the lyrics not matching the music in the opera...Sometimes first really is best senpai.
TWUE also uses the GBA opera lyrics. Oops.
>Also enjoy needless fanon shit that all other translations seem to have to put in these days...7s concept art mod, pic related, called i believe etc etc.
That's all well and good except if you actually cared about "fanon" instead of this selective fake way you'd keep the fan-hacks/mods to a literal minimum.
>Its a very direct language.
And it's annoyingly indirect in other ways if you payed attention in class, almost as if each language had its own quirks and intricacies.

>>7706037
>retranslation=fanon

>>7705875
Can you give some examples?

NES is the best; I can't fucking believe the number of zoomer cockroaches infesting this board now. Go ahead and hit me with those angry bug sounds.

>>7707536
Why do you prefer the NES over Famicom?

>>7707542
Because it is the same game, just in a language anglos can read.

>>7702449
how does it feel to know that you will never play the true original because you wont learn japanese? you can never tell anyone to play the "original" again

>>7705889
Pot, meet kettle.
>no I'm totally fluent in nip and prefer Tifa telling Barret to stop saying ominous shit over her calling him a retard!

>>7708459
And that makes it objectively worse.

>>7707414
>if you payed attention
Oh, the fucking irony.

>>7709631
>Phew, a minor, possibly late-written/slightly-drunken typo in an informal setting to distract 'em!

>>7710395
You’re just dumb lol.

>>7707414
>>7710524
>The post being replied to has more typos.
How to detect someone with no argument.