/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7454582
How do you even find CRTs without shipping them cross country? I've looked on every local ad and sale bracket and craigslist for my area within 100 miles and I can't find a single decent CRT that's in the 19-30 inch range unless it's extremely old with nothing but RF connectors. Any good recommendations for finding these without going to ebay?

Anyone tried modding a CRT with digital potentiometers?
So that instead of having to manually adjust a knob for things like horizontal and vertical size for different system you could just load up a profile with an arduino or something

>>7454652
Are you in Bumfuck, Wyoming?

>>7454783
I'm in a relatively rural area but I've got multiple urban environments around me and I'm near the eastern seaboard - I can get decent internet but I can't find anything worth a damn except for '99 lincolns

Question for you NTSC CRT fags:

I don't know if this is a thing already because i have no interest in using a CRT, but why not use a PAL CRT TV that does 60hz? Most of them did 60hz by the late 90's here in the UK. I'd often play my Dreamcast at 60hz back then. PAL has a higher resolution, more scan lines. Whenever i see pics/vids of NTSC CRT's they always look like shit, more blurry and the horizontal scan lines are definitely more visible. I often see people after high quality CRT's with good image quality, so why not just go for 60hz PAL?

>>7454814
Sucks to suck, I guess. Just keep your eyes peeled.

>>7454818
Pretty sure most PAL CRTs, 60hz capable or not, won't accept an NTSC signal without fucking up the colours. If the TV accepts RGB though and you use an NTSC console with RGB out it should be fine.

>>7454862
Most models do actually, any half way decent brand like panasonic, sony or toshiba did anyway.

>>7454862
Well, you are pretty wrong too

almost went out a got a free 32in flatscreen trinitron, but decided my back was more important.

>>7454935
dyel?

>>7454783
I am unironically in Wyoming.
I'm also this guy >>7454935

>>7454935
>he doesn't have friends willing to help him load up a TV
I am truly sorry to hear that. Maybe find a homeless person to help you for a few bucks?

>>7454935
Eh, if you can find a curved screen (with component is best), do that. Flat screens, 99.9% of the time, have geometry issues.
>inb4 that one dickhead posts the perfect geometry flatscreen image
Obviously there are exceptions, but don't expect perfect or great geometry right from the go without calibrating the shit out of it.

>>7454941
I have friends and family across the country, but I am new to Wyoming so no friends. I have maybe one family member who could help me, and I don't want to break his back either.

>>7454871
>any half way decent brand like panasonic, sony or toshiba did anyway
Dunno about Sony or Panasonic but I can say with absolute confidence that you're completely wrong about Toshiba.
Reason I know this is because I've owned a lot of re-badged Toshiba TVs over the years and not a single fucking one has supported NTSC signals over composite.
Fun fact: throughout the 70's and 80's Toshiba was one of the largest consumer electronic OEMs. And they did all sorts of price points from very very cheap to the highest-end stuff money could buy.

>>7454818
Because it's hard to justify the cost of importing one when I can find a NTSC unit for free of maybe like $30.
>>7454665
i'd also like to know this

I'll try to snap a pic later but my Magnavox has what looks like a pinkish cloud in the upper right-hand side of the screen that tints everything in the radius. I've already to the best of my ability removed anything causing magnetic interference, degaussed several times (the manual claims you can force it by holding the power button) and even tried a degaussing wand but it's still there. Is this symptomatic of something unrelated to magnets?

>>7455426
That's caused by the Earth's magnetic field. Try rotating the CRT to face a different direction. I keep mine facing north. If you have a good set, you should be able to adjust a setting in the service manual called "Landing". This will correct the discolored corner.

How much should I pay for a 13" pvm?

>>7455651
buck fiddy

>>7455651
Brand? Inputs? Any burn in? These are what determine the answer.

>>7455426
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsVuMRTCX5Y

>>7454652
If you live in poor rural areas it's likely that your Goodwills still stock CRTs. I've encountered some that won't take ones bigger than 14" and others that have 27" ones for $2.

normie friend has a trinitron i've been wanting since i was like 16, 3 years later and now he's giving it to me
it pays to wait bros, i'm finally joining muh secret club

whats the best way to play gb/gba games on a crt? 240p or 480p?
(Yes, I know there is gonna be letterboxing, that's not the point)
pic isn't mine before you retards go apeshit like last time

>>7455920
>retards going apeshit
normal day on /vr/

>>7455917
thats cool and all but what model before im already going to say its trash

Finally hooked a dreamcast to this bad boy

>>7455990
youre the diamondtron 930sb guy? looks good my nigga

>>7454652
Ask friends and acquaintances.

>>7454818
Probably because you guys use 240 volts. We usually only have 240 in our kitchen and maybe garage.

What would the power frequency do too?
Your power is 50 hz as well as your video.

Our 240v is still 60 hz.

Anyways giving an example of my US marketed Compaq VGA CRT, it won't do PAL interlaced, however I can do progressive. I think it does 720x576p.

Like yesterday I was playing some PAL videos from files on the computer.

Files that were 25 or 50 fps.

50hz flickers too much for me, so I can do 100hz, I think up to around 800x600 resolution. Looks smooth.

>>7456041
>Your power is 50 hz as well as your video.
Americans really deserve composhit and Shit-video

>>7455920
There is no such thing as mass produced 240p TVs or monitors.

Old consoles were made with NTSC and PAL interlaced output in mind.

240 was just a cost and technical limitation for hardware and software.

They were not meant to output a 240p modulated image.

VGA was standardised at 640x480 minimum interlaced or progressive.

There's been some oddball off standard VGA modes that might do lower resolution, but that may be trial and error between cards and monitors.

>>7456067
50hz flicker looks like trash as is the humm it makes.
I feel bad for the Japanese who have to weigh both.

>>7455990
DAMN, is that DC modded? It looks so goddamn CRISPY, Zangief and the Clock look like fucking 4K

I'm planning to use my 29" SD Sony Wega CRT TV (it has s-video and component inputs, plus a subwoofer on top) as a second PC monitor via an adapter.
I bought a cheapo HDMI to Component/YPbPr (pic related), and it doesn't work on the CRT or even on modern TV with PC and consoles (PS4, PS3). It does work with the streaming box of a local TV cable service, but only on modern HD TVs.
Looking at some videos, the Musou HDMI to Component converter seems to work, even on SD CRT TVs, but also the H2CS Universal converter. I read that the latter has some problems with drifting image, and the former with the sound (it lowers the sound volume).
Which one you guys recommend or should I go for a HDMI to S-video converter (really, there's not much difference between component and s-video on an SD CRT TV, both are much better than composite)?

>>7456116
Sorry, here's a pic of that cheapo adapter.

>>7456108
Is this a bait?

>tfw just got an extremely high end crt monitor for dirt cheap but can't test its beauty until cables come
>cables were guaranteed to come today
>they didn't
>mfw

>>7456126
what crt and cables did you get my nigga?

>>7454818
NTSC broadcast cameras can go higher than the nominal 525 lines. Hitachi made NTSC broadcast cameras that do 800-850 lines. Some security cameras are also this way.
I think many Trinitron TVs also go higher.

>>7456067
And you deserve the shittiest release version of every game ever made

>>7456121
No.

You're just probably a European who has never seen 60hz.

Some people are really sensitive with flicker fusion threshold.

When I want to watch PAL on a CRT so it doesn't look like shit I set it to 100hz.

>>7456129
Some obscure security monitor, but the tubes inside are the same as the ones in the pro JVC monitors. The set is a 15 inch screen with 800 lines, which is higher than the majority of SONY PVMs.
It only has 1 BNC input and 1 S Video input, which is fine. S Video cables are what I ordered.
It has an onscreen display and a bunch of other shit so eventually I may RGB mod but it's not a priority since S Video is great in the meantime.

>>7456116
I don't know about those HDMI in to S-video out converters.

I have one of those generic blue case VGA to S-video and composite converters.

It supports an assortment of resolutions.
NTSC and PAL output.
4:3, 16:10, and 16:9 if I remember with the aspect ratios.

I have also used it with a generic HDMI to VGA converter.

Well, foo?

>>7456209
calibrate that thing

>>7456219

>>7456110
The Dreamcast outputs native VGA. It's one of the few consoles that feels right at home on a PC CRT.

>>7454652
Don't forget to check the free section of craigslist. To most people these things are a burden. I have also had luck with the search term "s-video". Good luck anon, I believe in you.

>>7456105
ok but this doesn't answer my question

>>7456139
>You're just probably a European who has never seen 60hz.
Anon....

>>7456110
I was genuinely surprised how clean dreamcast looks this thing. Like you said 480p looks like a hd+ picture. I know it's not retro but this is how ps3 looks on it if anyone's interested.

>>7456371
Shit has no right looking that good, well fucking done lad

>>7456384
>>7455995
Thanks brother's.
I remember someone once posted here that pc crt are the final Redpill. That may be true for 31khz and up, but since most of them doesn't support anything lower than that it's a good to have 2 displays. One for 240p-480i and another for 480p+

>>7455651
not much, I sold mine for about $100 couple of years ago
13" is too small for games
>>7456371
I need an HD CRT

>>7456431
A lot of people play games on 13" CRTs, no need to exaggerate

>>7456431
Be sure to not pick up one of those "100hz" ones since they have a lot of digital processing that produces lag. You're best bet is a pc crt.

>>7456371
sometimes I like to play modern pc games on my CRT monitor, in some games the hud and/or text elements look like absolute dogshit at lower resolutions (see pic), but the games themselves always look fucking amazing, whether you're playing at 640x480 or 1400x1050
pic is 800x600 zoomed in to shit, it doesn't really do justice to how it looks in person

>>7456478
I'm in the middle of putting my pc together but I wasn't even planning on buying an lcd for it. Do you think that daily user experience is manageable on a crt?

>>7456497
The one I have displays up to 1600×1200

>>7456447
I owned a second hand Philips Cineos: 32", widescreen, CRT HDTV with HDMI input.
On HDMI, it had noticeable input lag (sometimes as bad as crappy LCD and LED TVs) and since it had 100hz digital processing, it forced the frames, which is not good, specially for shooters and fighting games. On component video it was much better. The TV sadly, crapped out on me, that particular model is prone to several malfunctions and overall not a long service life. The Sony FD Trinitron Wega XBR CRT HDTVs never came to my country, but I guess that they are much better (and also more expensive) than anything that Philips shat out. Kinda like its name suggest, it it's pretty good for watching cable TV, movies, series, both in 16:9 and 4:3 (if you don't mind the vertical black bars), but not good for games. Also, since it had HDMI, you could use modern streaming boxes without adapters, provide the HDMI out won't belly up, or the upscaler can also malfunction, rendering both the HDMI and the component inputs useless or only take the sound signal.
Then again, probably Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic, are much better, but since most of them are 100hz, they aren't the best for gaming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLNKPW2WJw8

>>7456497
>>7456509
its definitely doable but I wouldn't really recommend it, not long term at least
I'm gonna assume its 1600×1200 at 60 or 75hz, lower refresh rates are fine for games, but I find them unbearable for desktop use, its definitely going to strain the fuck out of your eyes, specially if you spend many hours in front of the screen, you could drop the resolution and increase the refresh rate, but that also comes with drawbacks, not to mention modern websites and programs aren't that great in 4:3 to begin with
crt are also really fucking finicky with current gpus and versions of windows, more so if you're using an adapter/converter

>>7456651
This, adapters can make the image look like dogshit.

Can't get my FXPakPro to show up nicely on my CRT. Only on my analogue snes system. Just wanna play them games.

>>7456753
Its basically like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxJ7_aC_NjU but I dont think its the PPU dieing since other games work fine and also I've tried multiple other SNES consoles and still had the same problem. diagnostics on the cart say it is fine as well.

>>7456159
I know that feel. I recently picked up a 15" Sanyo pro monitor with s-video (no RGB unfortunately but whatever), 800 TVL, and no burn. Also super new, 2006. It's gorgeous, which was surprising because it's a Sanyo and I didn't expect much from it (bought it for a test bench for $30).

any of you losers in new jersey want a dell p1110? price is a bit steep tho ($250)
/marketplace/item/130499618964618/

>>7454652
check facebook marketplace and your local thrift stores

>>7457048
>Condition
>Used - Good
Holy fuck, how does this shit even happen? It has scratches and other shit everywhere too
>that super mario picture
These people don't know what the fuck they're doing, if anyone is desperate enough to get it I would suggest trying to lowball the fuck out of it
it just isn't worth anywhere near $250

>>7455990
What's with the stair step pattern repeating all over the screen? Dirty signal?

>>7455920
240p is better but 480p is fine.

>>7457165
It's just on the photo, in person It's not there

>>7456497
No

>>7456814
Nice mate, does it have OSD?

>>7457160
>>7457048
This is why scalpers need to fuck off
It's one thing to flip items that are actually valuable but trying to resell your poorly taken care of trash is pathetic, I would send them an offer for $10

>>7456690
What?

I have two generic HDMI to VGA adapters and they are both great.

My laptop outputs VGA and HDMI(in conjunction with the converter) and it looks the same either way.

Does anyone have pics taken of RF gameplay?

>>7456753
You could buy the analogue DAC converter and run the vga out to the rca inputs on your crt

>>7458483
Put composite capture into a paint program and then increase blur by 25%

>>7458514
analogue aint getting my money again yet. $80 for a nice DAC isnt that bad honestly though. Also I'm trying to keep that out there and I can just run games off the SD with it so there isnt much of a point of the flashcard at that point.

>>7456121
It has to be bait, even has the reddit spacing there's no way there's still yanks who don't know about pal60 and rgb.

>>7459446

>>7459458

>>7459462

>>7459462
Didn't know there was there was an Indiana jones n64 game. How does it play? From the pictures I'm guessing it's some kind of oot/tomb raider clone

>>7459734
Yeah and it's decent. Little hard to get your hands on due to the weird way it was distributed. Despite what some may say, it was available for purchase through Blockbuster's website while also being a rental exclusive to the store. Has some tweaks made to the gameplay compared to the PC version where it controls a lot more like OoT rather than the PC version having a more Tomb Raider play style. An impressive effort for the console and a decent port (I've seen some say the N64 version is much better in comparison to the PC version, although it's usually in reference to control differences so I can't tell you personally if the PC version is better or worse since the N64 version is the only one I'm familiar with). It is a little buggy at times with some strange graphical distortions at rare instances, but it's an overall pretty fun game. Expect a $50-$70~ price range loose and an even higher price in boxed ofc. I here emulating it is just as good but I don't emulate N64 games all that often since I usually have most of the games I want physically, so if you really want real hardware but don't want to drop that much cash, then best bet is to play on an Everdrive. Fun gameplay and exploration and the presentation is better than I'd have suspected.

Made a little design on mine recently. It took me 45 mins to eyeball the logo. What you anons think.

>>7456219
Not him but how?

>>7460525
gaysex twin/10

>>7460525
Selected ambient works for gay sex 85-92/10

Just curious, how do you guys game on your CRTs?

I've been using a softmodded Wii so far, but the poor N64 and PS1 support has been a bummer, and I'm thinking of trying to do some sort of raspberry pi thing.

I also tried connecting it to my PC via a cheap HDMI to S-Video converter but the results weren't great since windows refused to output anything less than 800x600 to it, and using custom resolutions through the Nvidia control panel didn't seem to work.

>>7460525
Whatcha playin' on dat wii?

>>7456209
Why do people get something as pricy and pain in the ass as PVM, and would not even tinker with basic picture settings?
And no, service menu or pots adjustments for them isn't some secret.
If you getting PVM you should do some research first.

>>7460576
Yours already looks perfect.

>>7460576
First 240p test suite

>>7460525
Cock/Ver10/10

>>7456371
God damn i want an hd crt for 6th gen

Just an FYI, if you're a brit. PP auctions has bunch of PVMs going for auction today

>>7454582
is that lethal weapon for the nes?

>>7460914
COME ON YOU CUNT LET'S HAVE SOME APHEX ACID!

>>7460667
Typically melee or mario kart

The power light blinks green indefinitely when I turn it on. What does that mean

>>7461957
bad flyback transformer most likely

Hey /crt/.

Is this worth a 40 min drive?

>>7462236
Yes, make sure you bring someone to help move it or be strong

>>7462243
actually this model is 100Hz apparently, maybe don't

What do you guys use to game on your CRTs? I recently just got a PVM and as of now I've just been using it with my modded wii. I've been thinking of maybe making some sort of raspberry pi emulation box though since the wii's poor performance with PS1 and N64 titles has been frustrating

>>7462293
If you got yourself a pvm why the fuck would you bother with emulation? Go all in on original hardware before the prices start rocketing even more

>>7462293
original hw, Wii for 4th gen, raspberry pi/pc for arcade

>>7462293
You can throw whatever signal to the Pvm and still look beautiful, if you want to play N64 buy the original console + flashcart.

>>7462278
Very chad system

Why are people here so against paying for crt's here? It's nice to get things for free but most of of us won't be lucky enough to grab stuff we want without paying something.

>>7462362
paying any amount leads to people wanting hundreds for every set/monitor out there
Just go lookup "retro gaming crt" or something on eBay, hordes of rf/composite only tiny TVs at ridiculous prices

>>7462372
I live in Poland and the biggest amount I paid is 200$ for a 14" pvm last year. Is this problem just bigger in the US?

I need your help /CRT/.

Friend of mine has a 29" trinitron that he's had for a little while. Just moved house the other day and on trying to turn the set on a small pop sound was made and but no signs of life otherwise. Tried to replace the fuse in the plug (UK) but that wasn't it. It didn't/doesn't smell of burning. however there is some pretty bad looking dust inside the case. Prior to the move it looked great, excellent brightness/geometry and no odd behaviour at all.

Is it possible the move has knocked something out of place? What could the quiet pop noise be? Going to open it up soon to try dusting but in the meantime I would really appreciate any suggestions as to what might have caused this. Thanks in advance.

>>7462818
>Is it possible the move has knocked something out of place?
Probably

>>7455920
Unironically MISTER with the analog out add on. It's really nice and lets you save, also many other cores.

>>7462372
I paid 13 dollars for my last CRT.

>>7462362
I don't pay more than $30 for any Trinitron, and if they are 32 or bigger they have to pay me to pick it up

>>7462278
looks good except that this doofus appears to have paid money for someone to burn doom to a CD-R for him.

Shadowmask

>>7463617
is trash

you have to be extremely retarded to buy this for 3k.
/marketplace/item/872417800157367/

>>7463758
>very little use because I don’t have a PC to take advantage of it.
What did he mean by this?

>>7463625
How do you think I know you are retarded?

>>7456497
No
Fuck no.
I have several CRTs. They are great for games but daily use is ass. Even on the graphics based high resolution CRTs. It is not comparable to a decent OLED/lcd. Not as bright, text isn't as legible, colors are mediocre, image shifts with brightness change, etc.

>>7456436
>no need to exaggerate
>A lot of people play games on 13" CRTs
lmfao, you fucking exaggerate a ton. A lot is what... 20 people?? Who in the right mind would fucking downgrade EVERYTHING to use a shit CRT when larger ones exist?

>>7464370
240p at a close range is better with a 13’ crt, in my opinion

I used a CRT monitor recently. It emitted high frequency noise and made my head hurt.

>>7454652
Try good will, yard sales, estate sales, swap meets, and even your local electronics recycling center if you have one.
Sometimes they'll see if electronics still work and will sometimes offer them free or cheap so they don't have to dispose of working units.
YMMV

>>7464470
Zoomer detected

Thoughts on these monitors /crt/? They'e free. Anything I should know if I want to play snes/dreamcast games on them?

>>7465113
take the dell. the ibm monitor is useless

Why is it so difficult to find a 480p set? I have a nice Trinitron and Panasonic Gaoo but both only do 480i
>>7465113
I would grab both if you have the space/any interest in old computers
That Trinitron will look amazing, pickup a VGA cable for the Dreamcast if you're cheap or buy an actual VGA box for best results
SNES will need a scaler of some kind or you can emulate from anything with VGA out

>>7462389
>$200
Sounds like it's a problem in your country nigga. You paid 200 for a small old ass TV

>>7462945
Impressive. How are you doing that?

>>7464470
are you at 60 hz? they're borderline unusable below 75.

>>7465113
how'd you get the dell?

Anyone know why a Konami Justifier might not work on the right edge of a CRT?

>>7465716
can't speak for the Justifier but my Guncon needs the TV brightness to be pretty high, tested on multiple sets
If I don't adjust the corners become very flaky with hit detection

>>7465715
>>7465128
>>7465117

fucker beat me to it. at least now I know about craigslist alerts. FUCK

>>7465770
i know that feel. dont forget to check out fb marketplace as well and any other local listings that isnt ebay

>>7465770
also. its best to get now, ask questions later

>>7465770
hey man it happens
last year I almost lucked onto an entire storage unit full of CRTs, some dude beat me to it and took every single one

>>7456535
>>7465113
Same Dell

>>7465803

IT
HURTS

>>7465672
Because a 32" is junk and clutter and heavy. I'm not paying somebody to take trash out of their house, they have to pay me to haul it away. I'm doing them a favor.

>>7465843
for real, how lazy do you have to be to try charging someone to haul a 150lbs+ TV out of your house

I adjust the G2 knob too low on my PVM, and it popped back off whenever I tried to turn it on. I turned the G2 knob back to its original position, but now everything had a reddish tint, is my PVM fucked?

I have a PVM-2042Q that I’m trying to figure out why picture won’t show up. I have working 14 inch so I know I’m pretty sure my snes/SFC cables are not an issue. I’m pretty sure it’s the monitor itself. it turns on seemingly fine, just unable to connect to rgb picture. (I only have the cables to test it with unfortunately) I will post some inside images below (they may be really bad pictures, I’m not really sure where to start with the inside)

https://imgur.com/gallery/BcrDvXQ

https://streamable.com/is5d5d (video for showing lights and turning on sounds/not completely dead)

Disclaimer: I am a beginner

Any advice or help is appreciated

>>7465128
get an hd crt. they do 480p and 1080i (540p for some use cases). There are also 4:3 lcd tvs like a sharp aquos that are basically enhanced definition though you have to deal with other limitations because it isn't a crt.

>>7464470
If a pc monitor caused enough strain on your ears to cause a headache, you either have exceptional hearing range or there is a problem with the box. tv sets will whine enough to be slightly annoying to people with keen ears regardless. You tend to get used to it and the brain stops caring though.

>>7466081
>reddish tint
Sounds like the tube shorted. In all likelihood your PVM is fucked.

>>7462278
>Broksonic? More like BROKE-sonic

>>7466962
>get an hd crt
you'd have an easier time finding a microled on craigslist

>>7465113
Eh, that Dell often has that brightness/voltage problem that plagues Trinitrons. Mine did back in the day

>>7462293
>lethal
raspi wont be any better for the n64, n64 basically needs original hardware cuz its a bitch to emulate

>>7462818
could be a fuse in the tv itself, get in there with a meter if you know what you are doing, if not offer to pay an EE student to look at it for ya m8!

My 1702 is starting to bloom at normal brightness, is there any way to minimize it? I'm not afraid to open it up and replace things.

i'm using my CRT with a Ps3 to play Ps1 games but it flickers like CRAZY
is there any ways to fix it? i tried some Ps3 games and they dont flicker as much as the Ps1 games so i dont know if the problem is the TV or the Ps3
i really dont have a clue what to do and its starting to cause me some serious eye strain pls help

>>7464370
Back whenever I first got into crts, in my mid teens, I couldn’t find any. Live in middle of nowhere Arkansas. Only one I could find was a 13 inch durabrand tv. Loved the damn thing. Of course, I’ve gotten much better ones, but I still use my first one occasionally for the memories.

>>7467178
I don't own a meter but it's probably time I got one. What would I be looking for, just continuity through fuses? I've been inside a few CRTs but don't recall seeing any fuses, but then this is a newer tube that any of them were.

>>7468041
PS3's run all PS1 games at 480i, even if the game originally ran at 240p. You're stuck with the interlace flicker unless you use a PS2 or PS1, unless there's a hack on the PS3 to change the behavior.

>>7467368
Cleaning first

>>7456067
And you deserved Amiga and speccy. Also, RGB uses sync on composite which downgrades it too svideo quality

>>7469303
that a diamondtron to the right?

>>7469345
Yeah. Found on FB market like 40 mins away for $50

>>7469370
dank! what model and would you be willing to sell it later on?

>>7469373
2070SB. Can't say I ever plan on getting rid of it I love this thing. Would maybe consider making a trade + offering some money if there was ever someone with an FW900 that was willing

>>7469383
the 2070sb is p much endgame and has way better specs than the fw900.
nice pick up tho

>>7454582
sauce on whats on the CRT? I've had this gif but have no clue where its from

>>7469419
policenauts
best version is the saturn version[citation needed]

>>7469432
Thanks I'll check it out

>>7469507
remember to install the english patch
its the first thing that shows up on google when you search "policenauts english"

If you have seen an example of someone building a box enclosure for their CRT I would also like to see it pls

>>7469876
why would you need this? genuine question

>>7469876
I forgot to put a bezel in my drawing.
The idea would be to put the monitor in a box that can be decorated to feel more home-y. You could use smoked glass to try to hide the shape of the monitor too.

/adv/ told me to ask here.
I need a TV, any type, and I'm short on money. I found a 21" Panasonic, a 21" Philips and a 21" Toshiba, they're all for almost the same price (really cheap in my currency). I need to know:
>Which one of those brands is better?
>What should I look before buying one of those?
>How long can I expect these things to last? I want, at least, 3 years.

>>7469881
You could get fancier with it and make it more like a console television to fit in with your /vr/ set-up.
Or it can feel more like an arcade monitor if you put smoked glass in front of it.

>>7469883
>Which one of those brands is better?
Toshiba > Panasonic > Phillips
>What should I look before buying one of those?
svideo/component if possible
curved screen if possible (you can get a flat one if you play mostly 3d shit)
made after the mid 90s if possible
>How long can I expect these things to last?
depends on how much it was used and how much you're gonna use it, it could last 1 month or from here to eternity
if I was you I would probably pick up the 21" panasonic

How much would you say a Diamond Pro 2070sb is worth is good condition?

>>7470053
I don't like to talk about prices, there is some spooky stuff out there.

>>7470053
how many hours has it been used?

>>7466968
Aw fuck, thanks for letting me know though. I feel like I break everything I try to mod, feels bad. At least it was a 14 inch, and the geometry was pretty fucked anyway, and there was silicone epoxy holding half of the thing together inside.

I'm finding all kinds of weird definitions for things by looking through service manuals

>>7470064
don't know, i've found one for sale and i think it's probably an old guy selling it

>>7470103
so whats the price that hes asking?

>>7470105
82 quid

>>7470107
buy it now, but you could low ball it if you can

Someone is selling an CPD-210GS for about 140USD near me. Never heard of this model before, and there's not too much info on it online. Should I get it? Buyer claims the monitor is in good condition, but didn't post any pics of it actually turned on.

Pic related, but not the seller's CRT.

>>7470123
for how much?

>>7470123
>but didn't post any pics of it actually turned on.
red flag

>>7470130
i wouldnt say its a red flag. these are the fb market pics that were posted and both are in great working condition

Bro if you have the money and you really really want it, Just buy it, old things are limited, and this things are only going up in price cuz of youtube videos (retro gaming channels) and word of mouth.

>>7470173
this except never pay more than $30 for a consumer CRT
fuck hoarders and hoarders scalpers

>>7470173
this except never pay more than $30 for a consumer CRT
fuck hoarders and fuck scalpers

>>7470151
I was able to get a Commodore 1702, Mitsubishi AM-2752A, and PVM-2530 all in a single $120 lot because they were all listed as parts-only. They all worked, except for the PVM-2530. That one just needed to be recapped.

>>7470221
Which do think has the best image?

>>7470221
I sold the 2530 before I could use it, so I can't really judge. Though I would say that I prefer Sony's AG tubes to Mitsubishi's shadow mask ones on account of them having more vibrant colors. Though the Megaview is far less of a headache than a PVM to use with a PC, and still provides a really crisp image.

>>7469883
those round front sets from panasonic (matsushita) are great even if they're composhit only, but people really love the flat toshibas more because of the inputs

>>7470282
As for the 1702, composite looks nice with it, but I still haven't bothered getting an RCA Y/C adapter to see how S-Video looks on it.

I've been searching high and low for the service manual for this fucking thing and I can't find it. Can anyone manage to find it or at least please tell me how to get into the service menu?

>>7470315
Here's the front by the way. It's a Interlogix MVC-15HS if that helps.

>>7469050
Literally clean the dust out? I already have.

Can someone tell me if this thing is worth a half hour travel to pick up?

Does anybody have a GVM series monitor? I'm interested in buying one. It does from 15 khz to 37 khz and is 20". Pic related (GVM 2020)

>>7471404
not worth unless youre trying to get some cunny

>>7455920
>gb/gba games on a crt
why

>>7471404
Seller sent me the back. Im in europe and I have a ntsc n64 laying around. Could the mentioned CRT display ntsc and pal?

>>7471660
Maybe, grab it and find out. Half an hour aint shit.

>>7469303
Red dwarf, based!

>>7471589
it looks cool

>>7471909
Hell yeah man

>>7456110
Get yourself an old PC CRT and a VGA cable. It's worth it.

>>7467368
Seconding this

>>7472358
If I don't hear from anyone in this thread, I guess now is as good a time as any to read the CRT repair reference book I have. I'll post again in one of these threads if I meet with success.

Thoughts on a ViewSonic P810 21 inch monitor? Probably for free.

>>7472651
Anythings worth giving a shot for free.

>>7472651
Why are you even asking, go for it.

>>7472663
>>7472667

I guess I'm asking because it seems like the supply of decent TVs has gone down the drain and monitors are the next step. I know dreamcasts on a monitor are a good idea, but no so sure about other hardware.

>>7472683
>>7456535

>>7454582
My fellow brothers and sisters blessed by the phosphorous glow behind the shadow-mask, have any of you tested the input lag of those built in 100hz/120hz modes that came with TVs in the late 90s-to-early-00s with something like a "Time Sleuth"?

My faggot ass has gone and went used to the persistent image of (actual real) high-hertz panel displays and the flickering of CRTs is kinda driving me nuts after a while. The Panasonic TV I have has a 100hz (PAL) mode which helps with removing the flickering, but I'm starting to imagine games play a little bit more sloppy with it on.

I just want to bask in the glorious radiance of the phosphor without getting a headache or extra lag.

>>7472683

>>7472651
just do it
>>7472683
In my opinion a monitor is much more flexible than a crt tv, you can use an OSSC if you're using real hardware, or this method if you're emulating on pc https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Display_FAQ#240p.2F480i
some autists dislike the shadowmask look, but it look amazing in my opinion
not to mention you can also play DOS, PC98, 6th gen and even modern games on it

>>7472694
>>7472824
>>7472851

what do you guys do for audio out

>>7471432
>It does from 15 khz to 37 khz and is 20".
Better than most PVMs...Hidden gem?

>>7466962
>Samsung TXM3096WHF
One of these came up in my area, seller says only about 120lbs, should I pickup or avoid Samsungs from this era? Guess I could hook my PC up for newer games and 6th gen+ emulation.

>>7473273
Almost everything can output over RCA and good old TVs always have an audio out, get a receiver and some decent speakers, you're set.

>>7474892
go for it!

>>7470130
Just politely ask the seller for another pic.

>>7457048
i wonder who the retard is that bought this

>>7455930
its probably trash but i could mark it up on ebay and sell it to some retard who doesn't know the difference

>>7475559
glws

>>7475568
?

filterchads report in

>>7454582
honestly I'm not sure how anyone really thought policenauts was that great, unless they played it on a CRT. super basic story, next to no real gameplay or puzzle solving etc, so all that's left is the visuals. which look great on a CRT

>>7476271
that looks like ass i'd rather go no filter. shaders can look good but you gotta be doin 4K or better and preferably on an OLED

>>7465770
>craigslist alerts

What?

I went rummaging through my space and found an old 9" tube TV I hadn't thrown out over the years. It's this 9" Broksonic 'CTSGT-2799C VCR' combo that, if I remember correctly, has a busted tape player. I tried searching for a service manual for it, to no avail. Does anyone know anything about it? I'd love to maybe RGB-mod it if it's possible.

Weird question about capacitors: I've been browsing some online suppliers for them and I've noticed on a few occasions that a capacitor, despite having the same exact specifications, can sometimes come in either big or small sizes.
Is there a reason to choose one over the other?

>>7472651
>>7465113

I got extremely lucky and ended up with all three. The Dell is going to be my 2nd monitor for the thinkpad. IBM monitor has some issues. I think the VGA cable is damaged, can anyone confirm?. The picture looks super sharp though. The giant 21" Viewsonic doesn't have a VGA cable so I can't really test it. It's a monster. Will try and run my dreamcast through it soon enough, not sure how to output audio though.

so I'm finding lakka is somehow fucking with its video output on Pis now for some reason. Even plain VGA signals aren't going out properly while a standard Raspbian image has no issues. Dunno what the fuck is going on

>>7477148
The IBM monitor is probably old enough that it's only going to take a few formats if any. Start with plain VGA (640x480@60hz)

>>7476395
yeah when they have to fit somewhere specific
like tall and skinny for low board footprint, or short and wide for something slim

>>7477148
the dell is a p780? the viewsonic is prob the best one out of the three and dell being second.
good pickups my nigga

>>7477148
niceee

Can someone with a CRT load up the first level of DOOM and take a pic of their screen
(should look like this)

>>7478013
do you want me to do it with dosbox or with a sourceport

>>7478057
If you could do it with GZDOOM then it would match

does this look like an ok VGA to SCART converter?

https://www.amazon.co.jp/SCART%E3%83%93%E3%83%87%E3%82%AA%E3%82%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%82%AA-%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF%E3%82%A2%E3%83%80%E3%83%97%E3%82%BF-%E5%A4%89%E6%8F%9B%E3%82%A2%E3%83%80%E3%83%97%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC-USB%E3%83%AA%E3%83%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%88%E3%83%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E4%BB%98%E3%81%8D-%E3%82%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%82%AA%E3%81%A8%E3%83%93%E3%83%87%E3%82%AA%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF/dp/B07BW35BSX

I'm trying to do the CRT Emudriver thing

>>7478139
Jesus Christ what URL gore.

>>7478013
sorry man I feel asleep, and also its 4am and I can't get my dogshit phone to focus

>>7478374
also no idea where the fuck the blue tint came from

>>7478374
looks good, the textures definitely blend better and have a nice glow to them

>>7454582

>>7478850
CRT-ROYAL XM29-PLUS is probably the most accurate "consumer grade RGB CRT" shader.

>>7477148
pretty good haul
What's with your Trump obsession

>>7476302
Funny, one of my roommates picked up almost this exact model off the street recently. I tried to help him calibrate it but it was pretty fucking difficult to find documentation.

Just got a 4K Blu Ray player today.

Ran 1080i from it to my Compaq CRT.
Watched a 1080 Blu Ray with it, rather cool!

>>7478374
Use Open Camera if you haven't already.
Has a bunch of nice settings for recording these things.

>>7476282
Indeed, 4k is needed for beginning to emulate sub-pixel shadowmasks and HDR on an OLED would be needed to combat the dimming of the scanlines and emulate the brightness on the phosphor behind.

It's all possible today but emulator faggots are just too fucking lazy and always go for half-assed "heh no one can tell the difference anyway, it's good enough bro" and leave things looking, sounding and playing like shit as always. Hence, here we are still having to source and play on CRTs.

>>7467368
>>7472358
I improved it a lot by fiddling with the adjustments internally. I imagine it may need new capacitors for any possible further improvement. Looks good enough to me now, though.

>>7480051
You dont think 1440 is enough?

>>7467368
>>7472358
I'll also point out that width adjustment is achieved by fiddling with this coil behind the flyback. I'm only pointing it out because it was kind of not obvious. It's also not easy to take a picture of.

>>7480064
No 4k is the absolute minimum, there are gradients to the R/G/B pixels them self and they never appear uniform in symmetry, color or brightness and then you have to keep in mind the phosphor glow and bloom decay creating even more movement. There is A LOT of detail to what's going on and that's why "scanline" filters always look so jarringly unnatural and shit, better just leave them off and/or go CRT if you want that look for now.

>>7480125
But I like CRT-Royale. It's realer than the real thing. Its not accuracy people like, just the idea of accuracy.

>>7478850
>>7478865
looks good enough and I will probably use when CRTs go extinct, but it has the same problem as 99% of CRT shaders, it looks like a picture of the real thing, not the real thing, if you know what I mean

>>7480149
No I'm fairly certain the point of CRT filters are to make it look and feel like you are playing on namesake CRT monitors, it would be some impressively next-level advanced emulator faggotry to actually have convinced yourself otherwise.

>>7480236
Sorry mundane. You might ascend to the hyperreal someday.

>>7480125
why would I leave the shader off and go buy some heavy, high-pitch-whine-earrape when the shader is like 90% as good? sounds like some purist autism

>>7480891
There are plenty that don't whine within the range of human hearing. There are also plenty of smaller units from the size of your fist all the way up to HD CRTs.

>>7480891
>why would I be in sexual relationships with human females when a Fleshlight is 90% as good?
>sounds like some purist autism
Have sex and play on CRTs you slob.

>>7480074
how do u adjust that coil? is there some where to put a screwdriver and turn things like a potentiometer or do u just wiggle it around with your hand?

>>7481115
stick a screwdriver in it

>>7481115
>>7481167
I used one of those plastic screwdrivers (I'm sure they have a name but it eludes me). That one needs something hex shaped, the rest are fine with a flathead. Don't use anything metal while the monitor is on. Remember to discharge it, your hand pretty much has to molest the flyback to get in there.

>>7455160
damn son art yo

>>7456371
That looks worse than modern tv's.
The tube probably can't resolve 720p.

>>7481313
Not that anon, but I'm sure it looks better in real life. It's pretty hard to photograph a CRT with any sort of accuracy.

>>7480891
Change the hz, you nonce!

Also if you can hear CRT whine, you can probably hear the whine of an AC adapter for an LCD anyways.

>>7472824
High TVL is soulless as fuck, especially for Earthbound.

>>7476282
>>7480051
>4K
Even 8K is not enough
https://twitter.com/ruuupu1/status/1356955170551156739

>>7481317
The resolution easily looks worse. Shit looks blurrier.
CRT Photos suffer from not being able to show the luminance/colors correctly not the sharpness.

>>7481350
I don't know, all the photos I try to take of mine look like blurry bullshit. My phone camera is pure garbage.
Maybe it is blurry, but it might be the camera.

>>7481409
Try Open Camera.

>>7481454
Adjust fucus, iso, and exposure.

>>7481454
I'm already a longtime user, but the improvements I get are marginal. It can't fix a shitty sensor.

>>7481454

>>7478013
I tried to take some better pictures but I forgot how cameras work

>>7481590
ditto
also why the FUCK does gzdoom have this blue tint, dosbox and crispydoom look fine

>>7481336
Yes

>>7481603
Calibration

>>7481603
how long have you been playing like this
it ain't right

>>7462347
You can connect the Rpi through RGB and get true 240p.

>>7481751
Screw 240p.

Games were not meant to be displayed on 240p.

The systems were 240p internally as a technology and cost limitation.

They're meant to be displayed at 480i or 576i.

And there's no reason you can't display it at 480p or 576p.

>>7482354

>>7482354
If you're talking about Super Nintendo and older, then that doesn't make any sense. It looks like shit at those resolutions.

>>7482354
>Games were not meant to be displayed on 240p.

Please go back.

>>7482657
>>7482686
Morons.

>>7482354
Oh no it's this brainlet again

>>7483031
Nobody had 240p displays when these games were designed and made.
People were using interlaced CRT TVs which used video technologies such as NTSC and PAL.

480i is barely different than 480p in quality. The main difference is you'll lose dithering effects with progressive.

Watching on a 480p TV of the same aspect ratio is not going to fuck up your scaling otherwise.

You Zoomers need to stop talking out of your asshole.

>>7483080
>People were using interlaced CRT TVs which used video technologies such as NTSC and PAL.
>You Zoomers need to stop talking out of your asshole.

>>7483031
>240p

>>7483119
Leave this place in shame

>>7483080

>>7483770
You got a real argument or can't refute facts?

https://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/NTSC_video

gateway vx900 (rebranded hitachi superscan 751) for 10 buckaroos off fb market in PA.

/marketplace/item/1614004008793741/

>>7483990
God dammit I loved my vx900 when I had one. A but too far away from me and I also just picked up a Compaq MV920 and an ancient Samsung 14" last weekend

>>7481409
Why would you play the PS3 version of Generations anyways?
The console versions are at 30 while the PC version is 60fps.

>>7482354
Delusional retard.

>>7483985
from your link

>>7484140
No, you.
>>7484157
You don't understand what is written there.

No progressive signal is being sent over the composite video cable.

It would cause an interlaced CRT display to bounce producing a useless image.

On an LCD it creates a doubled up squished image.

>>7484309
You have never played a game on a CRT TV.

>>7484418
Yes I have.

Putting progressive scan to an interlaced only CRT TV is going to cause it to fuck up not having a usable image bouncing about.

Common VGA computer CRTs are are more flexible.

Where it may be able to do 640x480 both interlaced and progressive. Displaying scan lines in the interlaced mode.

>>7484458
You have no clue you fucking retard. Compare a game from before the PS2 that runs at 240p with the same game from a shitty xbox or PS2 compilation that runs at 480i. The difference is night and day.

And BTW, a good, old CRT TV isn't "interlaced only". It syncs at around 15 KHz which both 240p and 480i use. The difference is that 240p does not change from even to odd field nor vice-versa.

>>7484513
What you are trying to describe is still using interlace.

It is a half assed quasi progressive.

>>7484595
How is it interlaced when only one field is being drawn?

>>7484595
Imagine being so retarded and clueless that even an anime-posting retard is shitting all over you.

>>7484513
Xbox had certain games designed for 480p.

What are you on?

>>7484630
We are talking old school SD CRT TVs and whether they can do 240p.

*spoiler* They can.

>>7484663
Actually, BOTH of you retards are just arguing semantics. Probably over the term "progressive scan" because its mostly used to refer to 480p. While 240p is technically progressive, it wasn't originally intended by tv standards and so was barely even acknowledged until retroactively.

>>7484693
Err... No.
I'm arguing that 240p (or whatever you want to call it) is not interlaced. And it isn't because, well, there are no two fields getting interlaced. This is not semantics at all.

>>7456241
I laughed.

>>7484630
Why was Microsoft validating Sony's use of "X" for "confirm"?

just picked up this portable crt

>>7485779
kek, good one

>>7483080
>Nobody had 240p displays when these games were designed and made.
kys

am i on reddit rn? why are you retards replying to b8

>>7486730
Why are you being so hostile?
He is correct to an extent.
It is a roundabout hack.

>>7483080
You are officially the "flat 240p anon" from now on.
Your retardation has been recognized

>>7486741
>>7482354
>He is correct to an extent.

>>7486749
>>7486757
You guys have anything of substance.
Something besides ad hominems?

What kind of results do you think you'd get if you fed this "240p" to a 1024x768p native display?

Amuse me by putting some substance into your arguments.

>>7454652
Goodwill, yardsales, craigslist, offerup. Tons of places

>>7454652
Ask people you know.
People probably aren't going to be familiar with the term "CRT" though.

Ask about tube or box TVs and monitors.

Ask these people if they have any at their place of business.

Some of these businesses probably have them sitting in a back room and would be looking to get rid of them.

>>7486781
Depend on the display. Some display would correctly understand the signal as 240p and would try their best to upscale it to 1024x768p (if we are talking about fixed resolution displays). Others would mistake the signal for 480i, what would cause interlacing effects and image distortion if no desinterlacing solution was applied.

I found a 27" Sony Trinitron Wega kv-27fs13 for under $50. I had debated on getting the kv-34hs510 for the same price, but it's fucking huge, and I simply don't have the space for anything bigger.

>>7454652
look, and stay local. Craigslist and Facebook marketplace is a great resource for people trying to hock these.

>>7484137
Reply to the right person, faggot.

a few years ago i was able to buy a new pvm-20l2md from a medical supplier

despite seeing
>md
sometimes, i still kept it and it served my purpose of watching anime through my bnc and ps1 setup. now im moving, and it's a pain in the ass; with that said what's bad about the MD models? as i never ran into a real explanation

>>7476271
What filter/shader is this?

>>7489202
There isn't anything inherently wrong with them, most of the time they're just regular PVM with a different shell.
They tend to have more burn-in though, but that can happen to any set.

>>7476271
Looks great IMO.

You’re welcome Castlevania.

My PVM-20M2MDE arrived today in a massive wooden crate. For whatever reason, the seller I bought it from didn't clean it and just shipped it with dust all over it. While I was going to give it a wipe down anyway, it's amazing how lazy some people can be.
I've been having a grand time testing all my consoles on it. For the longest time I've been playing old consoles through RGB SCART on a Framemeister, and while I was always pleased with how it looked and felt, playing games on a proper CRT just feels better.
5th gen consoles are especially nice on it. Playing my RGB modded N64 always looked a bit off on my modern TV, and it looks so much better on the PVM.

>>7489343
Based ending of game photo.
Most of the time when i see title screen photos, it makes me think the guy that took the photo just turns the game off and goes back to scrolling facebook, or something.

Found this nice looking Phillips from 2005 sitting out in the cold. It was pretty easy move around by myself and just about the size I've been looking for.

>>7489343
>Fred Fuchs

>>7456497
I use a 1024x768 15” apple monitor as my main display and my laptop as a secondary. I can do 99 percent of modern tasks on it, even video editing.
Anyone who says you can’t use a crt as your daily doesn’t know what they are talking about.

>>7489343
>>7490484
You know your tv is fucked up when a consumer Flat CRT have better geometry than your PVM.

I finally found a CRT that can do component lads. Going to get it this weekend.

There's a big later model CRT TV left out on Valley St in Olyphant/Throop Pennsylvania if anybody is from that area.


Appears to be 16:9

>>7478013
This is old Zdoom at 320x240 using crtemudriver and an ancient radeon card. The tv is a 25 inch Phillips hospitality model with a component input, and a ridiculously extensive menu.

>>7491505

>>7491505
>>7491508
you should keep in mind that most dos games ran at 320x200, not 320x240
they were also line doubled to 640x400 so vga monitors could output them

>>7454582

I found a viewsonic 21 for free and picked it up a week or two ago, looked great through vga. Then all of a sudden it started randomly jumping the picture every once in awhile, kinda vertically, sorta flickering the whole screen for a half second. It didn't do that for the first week. It started doing it really bad and constantly, but now it's kinda evened out to every couple minutes. Anyone have any idea what could be going on with it?

>>7492238

Old cap drifting out of spec on the deflection side of the board.

>>7492291
That should be fun to track down.

>>7492331
Just discharge anode, pull the board, write the caps # down and replace them all using quality caps from Mouser or Digikey.

>>7492342
Yeah I was thinking about just changing most of them out.

Funny story about picking it up. The guy getting rid of it knew I was coming to pick it up and he left his dog outside and it fucking bit my leg when I walked up to knock on the door. Jackass.

how are you guys plugging consoles into computer monitors?

>>7492392
Several consoles support VGA natively with the right cable.
Some monitors are old enough that they were designed for composite and/or s-video.
Upscalers and convertors are a thing.

How much would a mid-sized philips CRT TV with component ports be worth? I've got one but am thinking of selling it due to barely fitting it in my tiny ass apartment. I'd miss being able to play PS2 games via component, but I haven't touched the thing in years.

>>7492578
free to fiddy bucks

Hello /CRT/,

I got pic related about a week ago. When I got it, it all worked fine. Yesterday evening it suddenly went blackscreen. When I power the TV the Power LED goes red. Then I try to switch to a program or change the source and the tv just clicks and the red LED goes off.
There is also no buzzing sound when powering the TV. Any ideas?

>>7493416
Are you sure it's not just in standby mode?

Finally got that CRT from my grandma! It's one of the later model ones, flatscreen. Has RGB and S-Video, absolutely gorgeous! Just need a place to put it :)

>>7493731
Looks good

>>7493718
Well. I'm pretty sure. Any of the buttons in my picture just turn the TV off.
Wouldn't a standby mode be reset by turning it on and off? Because I tried everything I can think of...

>>7454582
What's /vr/'s thoughts on Hitachi CRTs? Found a 30~ inch one.

>>7493813
Hold the green button in the top right down for a few seconds to rule out it having just gone into standby mode.

>>7493965
Doesn't do much sadly

Got this little Aiwa still kicking around, glad it has a built in VHS deck too so I don't have to repurchase my 90s VHS collection.

>>7493978
tossed salad and scrambled eggs

>>7491647
Yeah, I don't think crtemudriver goes that low, I'm certainly willing to take pics of other resolutions if anyone would be into that.

>>7492578
$50 but take $40, and advertise as a good gaming tv and mention all the inputs, as well as pics of the inputs and the info on the back

>>7493731
neat, I like the look of those truflats when they're 13"

>>7455920
You should be using 240p via GBI and Swiss. 480p is not fine despite what the other fag

Just got this. Haier HTR20, 20 inches

Sorry about pic rotation. That's a lineageos bug. This TV does component and S-video,. Thoughts?

>>7494489
If you set it up right Emudriver goes that low. I've even got modes for native res GBA

I suppose 640x200 would look the same, yeah that ini for vmmaker is rather extensive

>>7494518
nice, play dodonpachi on it

anyone heard of barco? found a barco 21 inch for like 75 euros. can it compare to a trinitron BVM?

>>7481336
480p

>>7495187
Depends on the Trinitron. Some have resolutions exceeding 900TVL which is pretty hard to beat.

Is it safe to work on a CRT if I have dandruff? I want to open mine up to check the caps, but there's no way I'd be able to get the dandruff out.

>>7496642
Wear a hat ya fucking salt shaker.

>>7496642
go take a shower you dirty piece of shit

>>7495512
i just want something to hook up to a ps2

>>7454582
My Dell 772C works great at 640x480 and 800x600 progressive, but the geometry goes NUTS at 1024x768. I shut it off right away and I need to sleep otherwise I'd get a picture, but it the image is curved at the sides really bad. The monitor should support that resolution, and it didn't bitch at me telling me it was out of sync (which it's done before)

I also noticed a small white blinking light at the bottom right of the screen. I know TVs can have weird shit in the overscan, but I've never seen that.

According to this image, it's barrel distortion (but at least 50% worse). Is there any reason this would effect only higher resolutions? IIRC, this monitor should go up to 1280x1024 but I'm not trying that shit now. I've had a much older Packard Bell stop popping in back when I was using it when it was clearly fucked and I'm not doing that again.

>>7495479
Crt royal?

>>7497101
just adjust it

>>7497152
Won't that fuck up the geometry of lower resolutions?

My big old Trinitron is a beauty, but the TV-as-monitor I've got set up with the C64 is a hunk of junk.
I wish I could find a decent monitor to use instead, ideally one that can bridge the gap all the way from C64 to Dreamcast (VGA).

>>7493416
>>7493718
>>7493813
>>7493975
Update. I let it rest for a night and today after turning it on it showed the following picture. After about 10 seconds it turned back off. Is it dead now?

What are my chances of finding a half-decent CRT in Australia?
I'd pay good money for a high TVL unit but the local supply seems to have evaporated. No one's even selling the things at ridiculous markup.

>>7493864
Not sure.

I've used a Hitachi broadcast camera and have a DVD player made by them and they're both good.

>>7494509
It is fine.
If it is the same aspect ratio it makes no difference.

>>7497104
No

Is a 14" TV with S-Video and Component worth it?

>>7497418
High TVL isn't the end all be all of CRT. The image you posted would not work with high TVL count. That's the point of the image, a CRT blends it some, not make it sharp like looking through window blinds. Literally get ANY CRT and it will be fine.

>>7496642
YOU ASK THIS EVERY MONTH

>>7456478
I play PC games exclusively on my CRT monitor. Even if I some times dwell into 1080p gaymen to mox things up, it doesn't last because I very much like the CRT picture.

>>7456497
Yes.

>>7497581
Yeah, it will look sharper than a larger screen and is imo better for shmups because you can see the whole screen at once.

>>7495187
>can it compare to a trinitron BVM?
PVMs and BVMs are nice for the connections they have and the easy service menu, but the screens are so sharp that the scanlines are black and thick, almost identical to a vga monitor running 100% scanlines filter. Maybe you want that, but its not my fav. I have owned a few, but sold them and only have an Ikegami left. The best imo is a curved glass one with lots of inputs. From late 90's early 2000's

>>7498337
curved glass consumer model I mean, heres my Ikegami

>>7493731
Working on getting some shots of this. The first few turned out too dark, but the quality is nice :)

TV tuner running 1080i via HDMI to VGA comverter into an AOC Spectrum 7Glr.

This particular channel is 720p.
The 7Glr woul not accept 1080p.

>>7498705

Need help.
Just got my first CRT, it's a 20 inch Panasonic with a built in VCR player. I have my GCN hooked up to the AV ports, video (yellow) in and audio (white) in, and I don't know how to switch it to AV.
Anyone more familiar got any advice? I guess I'm too used to the modern way of just hitting source and switching HDMI ports.

>>7498887
If the TV doesn't have an input button, and if changing channels below channel 1 or 2 doesn't work, then you'll need a remote control.

Universal ones are cheap, but compatibility is sketchy with new remotes on old tvs.
You can search the TV's model number (you should know this anyway to find the manual, to answer questions like this), and search that on ebay to find a remote.
There's more expensive remotes by Logitech that are 99% guaranteed to work.
And lastly, if your phone has an IR blaster you can use that to control it through an app (apparently, never tried this).

>>7498950
I own the remote, but nothing I've tried on it has worked. I also found the manual, but I think I'm just too much of a brainlet to figure this shit out.
I've tried changing channels, but I can't below 1 or 2 without it throwing a fit about how I need cable.
Here's the manual
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/191749/Panasonic-Pv-M2069w.html
And the model is the Panasonic PV-M2069W
It's also an FM Radio, which is neat.