/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7208012
>owning trash
No thanks, bro.

tfw had a gray model but had an extra white pad
regret selling my /vr/ collection

>>7208028
nip saturn had all the good games tho?

death to bernie stolar and a plague upon his house
inshallah

No, because I still own my model 2 black US Saturn I got back in 1996, still works like a champ. I do have a jp white controller though.
Also bernieposter is O B S E S S E D

>>7208012
I would like to have one, but I'm poor at the moment.

I have an American saturn with the Action Replay cart for Japanese games. That's honestly close enough for me.

>>7208012
I own that, plus I get to play the best version of Fighting Vipers(which has Pepsiman).

>>7208028
t.Nincel

>>7208216
I wish I had kept my black Sega Saturn, but my bestfriend wanted it, along with the games I had for that system(Resident Evil, Virtua Fighter 2, Mortal Kombat Trilogy, Street Fighter The Movie and Tomb Raider). I regret selling it to him, but at that time I did need the money to get myself a PS3.

Ive got a gray one and a red psuedo kai cart. Every real copy of a game i have is an import as even crappy saturn games cost too much in the us right now.

>>7208012
I have a pal Saturn my friend gave me after he found it in the trash, and a white Japanese pad that I bought in Tokyo about a decade ago.

I enjoy the contrast.

>>7208012
Based. I have a MODE with a 120GB SSD installed as well. Years ago I moved to another state by the skin of my ass and sold everything (including 99% of my entire physical videogame collection), so this year for my birthday I picked up a Saturn again. The white aesthetic is primo, plus the system (in pristine condition), memory cart, controller, and two games only set me back $100 shipped direct from Japan. I was able to pick up that bundle plus a pre-flashed pseudosaturn cart plus a stack of CDRs for less than the cost of a beat up American Saturn on Ebay. I used that until my MODE arrived.

I also have a Netlink, I picked one up relatively cheap the other day and I think it'll be fun to give online play a shot. I'm currently trying to decide whether I want to build a line simulator or just say fuck it and actually pay $20 a month to get an actual copper landline.

7208028
Remember the time that the bernieposter accidentally let it slip on /adv/ that he hasn't had sex in years? Unfunny meme, unfuckable anon. Classic combo.

>>7209238
Why are you importing games if you have a pseudosaturn cart? The only thing you should be buying is CDRs. I highly recommend anyone with a Saturn get an ODE though. Not only do you get to have all of your games on a single decide choosable from a menu, but you can play all of the best games on the system without paying hundreds of dollars for them, and as a bonus you no longer have to worry about regions either.

>>7210370
Neat. I bought myself a White Saturn and White 3D controller for Christmas. Won't be delivered until early next year, which suck, but what can you do. I've got my MODE, the 3D printed holder from Laser Bear, and external PSU ready to put in that bitch.

>>7210381
Right on. Have you ever owned a Saturn before? There are a couple of recommended games infographics floating around /vr/, but you could always just make a thread when you get it if you're not sure what to play. As for disc images, there are a lot of shitty CDI and ISO rips floating around on the internet, but your best bet is to get your games directly from the Redump set. They are a bunch of gran autismos so the disc images are essentially perfect 1:1 copies. Don't be a doofus and just throw the entire software library on your storage device though, when it comes to an ODE you only want to put games on it that you know that you will want to play, or you are interested in trying. Throwing hundreds of regional duplicates and junk games onto your system will just increase decision paralysis and make it take forever to scroll through your game list to get to a game you actually want to play.

Don't forget to grab a CR-2032 battery (the common "watch battery"), you'll need it to save your games if you didn't order a memory cart (which you should do, they're cheap as shit online).

If you're into 2D Capcom fighters than you'll definitely also want to pick up a 4MB RAM expansion cart. There was also a 1MB expansion cart, but for the most part you can play those games with a 4MB cart without issue (some 1MB games can occasionally have glitched sprites with a 4MB cart, and Metal Slug can have additional slowdown with a 4MB cart, but it's nothing game breaking). When I added my games to my MODE, I added a (1MB) or (4MB) to the end of the title so I could remember which games need what cartridge.

I'd also recommend picking up an S-Video cable if your TV supports it, but keep in mind that sharpening the display image via S-Video can sometimes increase the obviousness of certain mesh based transparency effects in some games (that would otherwise be blurred if you were using composite video).

Congratulations though, you're in for a treat when that thing arrives.

>>7208216
>No, because I still own my model 2 black US Saturn I got back in 1996
chad as fuck

>>7208216
Pretty based, not gonna lie. I think it's hilarious that new Xboxes and PS5s are overheating and breaking down like crazy, and there are dudes out there who are still playing their launch Saturns from a quarter century ago that are still running games without any issue.

>>7210428
I already own a model 2 PAL Saturn, so I have a pretty good idea of what I want to get out of my new purchase, but I thank you for all the information you've provided.
That said, I'm a complete fucking moron when it comes to actually downloading the best rips of games. I'm guessing archive.org's Redump October 2019 a good set to go though.

>>7208216
I still have my US one from 1996 as well that I put a Region switch in years ago.

Honestly Saturn's are pretty damn reliable considering the how crazy the overall hardware is. It really begs the question how Sony ended up having such an unreliable system with the original PS1 considering how less complicated it's hardware was.

>>7210556
That's where I got all of my images from. They got weird about searching for them on their website, but add /download/ef_Sega_Saturn_Collection/Sega%20Saturn/ and you should get a list.

>>7210573
There are rumours of Sony making the PS1 unreliable on purpose. How many people do you know that bought several playstations because they broke?
>it's ok bro, games are cheap thanks to piracy!
Speaking of that, there's also rumours of Sony themselves pushing piracy for their own system in some regions such as latin america.
>But it makes no sense!
I know but sometimes business are ran in mysterious ways. When you think about it, doing some auto-sabotage might have some rewards. Boosted hardware sales + availability and popularity in developing countries. Sony's main concert with the PS1 was making themselves a name and a place in the console market, not make profit.

>>7210575
Looks like a lot of the games share the same file size. Thank you for your help.

>>7210587
Main concert? I member seeing this in my video rental.

>>7210587
>Speaking of that, there's also rumours of Sony themselves pushing piracy for their own system in some regions such as latin america.
gotta wonder why theyd do that
i couldve sworn they always sold their hardware at a loss and it was games that they made their money on

>>7210694
Nintendo has traditionally been the only manufacturer that doesn't sell their consoles at a loss. This is why their systems tend to be weaker than their major competitors during each console cycle.

>>7210370
I was new to saturn and didnt know of psuedosaturn yet, id like a mode but if i had the money id go with the mega sd first.

>>7210510
>still playing their launch Saturns from a quarter century ago that are still running games without any issue.
Thats me.

>>7208012
I mean I just modded mine to play burned games and have the Action Replay that lets you play imports. If you put the work into it the Saturn is kino.

>>7208012
>he has such a low IQ he can't deduce that owning anything other than the PSX from that gen is a waste of time

>>7213228
Why not own all three main systems from the most kino generation? PSX obviously is the best system this gen and arguably the best ever, but N64 and Saturn both have some good shit my dude.

>>7208028
I love you bernieposter

>>7213242
I'm just meme'ing

>>7213242
>most kino gen
>anything but 4

>>7208028
Reminder this guy believes Nintendo 64 has a better library than Saturns.

>>7213437
I don't understand how the N64 got memed into having a "good library" when most people would legitimately have a difficult time naming ten good games off of the top of their head.

>>7210370
I got the Satiator. It's pretty good. Works shockingly well, and I didn't have to tear out my drive, which still works well.

>>7208012
>don't care about shmups
>all good fighting games ported to Dreamcast or PS2 or modern platforms
what use is this thing again?
Also if I wanted an arcade port machine I'd just get Neo Geo.

>>7213437
He thinks the 32X is better than Saturn also.
Guy is insane.

>>7213549
To be fair, 32X had the better AM2 ports than the Saturn did at the time.

>>7213228
Dumb fucks like you always flock to the side of the perceived winner. Anything else messes with your lack of self esteem. Its called the snoy effect.

>>7208012
YAMEROOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>7210370
PS2, Saturn, Warhammer, T...Toilet Paper

>>7208012
I'm saving up to buy one, actually. Gotta further develop my Japanese skills while also having fun.

>>7208028
absolute legends, making sega cucks seeth

>>7215820
It's a roll of paper towels. I paint models on my desk and although I use a wet palette it's nice to have some paper towels placed underneath everything to remove excess water from my brush or to quickly clean up spilled paint or washes in an emergency.

>>7215950
> saving up to buy one

I bought >>7210428 for $100 shipped from Japan from a guy named entame_oukoku on Ebay. Everything was in pristine condition except the memory cartridge had some yellowing from sitting in a different Saturn in the sun for a long time (essentially giving it a tan line).

If you're gonna go with an ODE or a Pseudosaturn cart than definitely take a look at Japanese systems. You can get them much cheaper than North American ones, and as a bonus you get that nice white A E S T H E T I C

There are enough games in English that you don't need to know Japanese to have a good time, but it certainly wouldn't hurt.

Where's a good place to get Japanese Saturn games? Vimm's Lair only deals in US games.

>>7208012
>Saturn
I'd rather own something worthwhile with games I like, thanks.
>>7208028
Based. The responses seethe at the truth

>>7217362
samefag

7208028
7217362

This guy samefags every single Saturn thread. It might be amusing if it wasn't so pathetic.

>>7217318
Cd romance

>>7219010
He's probably the same guy who makes anti-Half-Life threads or anti-RE4 threads.

>>7219419
Don't forget the anti-MGS threads.

>>7219419
>>7219438

The reason he stopped using a tripcode was because he accidentally left it on when he posted in an advice thread saying he was an incel who hadn't had sex in years lol

>>7219459
What a pathetic loser

>>7219464
i no rite

Can we get back to the subject?

>>7219480
Aight.

What Saturn games are people in this thread playing tonight? I'm gonna fire up Powerslave after I clean my apartment.

>>7219495
I was jumping in and out of the NetLink version of Sega Rally as I just got my Fenrir installed this morning.

I remembered it also works with the 3D Pad (that was the main reason I wanted to try this version as opposed to the original version) so I connected that up. When you play it like that it actually uses the shoulder triggers for gas and brake, which is forward thinking.

Also the Fenrir devs need to fix Bug!. It's not the greatest game ever but I have some specific nostalgia associated with the game and I want to play it.

>>7219538
I got filtered by Bug! when I tried it. What issues does it have with Fenrir?

>>7219574
It just locks up when you try to load the first level. I got stuck at a blue screen.

>>7219459
Who, Babbage Gramps? That's the only /vr/ tripfag I remember.

>>7219021
Already kind of iffy on this. The OutRun ISO I got from them was missing all the arrange music.

>>7208012
My early model 1 US Saturn has slightly better video quality over RGB compared to my late model 2 Japanese Saturn.

>>7219716
The North American version (in the Sega Ages release) doesn't have the arrange soundtrack, it's only in the standalone Japanese version (which also has a cheat code to run at 60fps).

You should be getting redump images from the internet archive. The redump guys are a shining example of what happens when the power of autism is harnessed for good.

>>7208881
Hi faggy Nincel poster. How has your weekend been?

>>7208881
Hi t. Nincel poster! How has your weekend been?

>>7220161
I was playing the Japanese version. It lets me select the “Arrange” option but I don’t get any music at all when I play like that.

>>7208012
I don't own a single retro console at the moment

>>7213437
>N64
>many of the most influential games of all time
>Saturn
>incel weeb panty raid #1224
lmao

I located a proper dump of OutRun that has all the necessary audio files for the arrange tracks.

>>7217318
order them from japan using something like buyee, shipping is a bit much but it will be a way cheaper than what youll pay in the west

>>7221706
I said "Vimm's Lair", it's clear I meant Saturn ISOs...

I'm pretty sure I downloaded an English image, why are the QTEs for this game in Japanese?

>>7208012
Name ten great japan only saturn games and I will. I speak nip and got a christmas bonus, why not.

>>7208012
Top-tier gate keeping

>>7222386
Does that include things that never got released here on the Saturn but got ported later?

>>7222375
Memorize the first character, it's not that hard
パンチ Punch
キック Kick
ジャンプ Jump

>>7222410
cringe

>>7222394
No, hard mode. No soul hackers for you.

>>7222606
パ fist
キ key = kick
ジ happy smiley means jump
It's really not that hard.

>>7222375
Instead of doing different releases for different countries, Die Hard Arcade is the exact same game across all regions. It reads which region Saturn you have and displays text accordingly.

Basically, the game displays Japanese text because you're playing it on a Japanese Saturn.

Did anyone try the new Symphony of the Night translation version, or are we all just waiting for the next patch that is supposed to hit on or before January 1st?

>>7208012
So I can play a bunch of fighting games and shmups with load times? lolno

>>7223296
Which? the one that is just the same US meme script (what is a man?) over the Saturn japanese version?, that's even lazier then just pasting the Working Designs meme script over japanese Rayearth.

Also the only good thing Saturn Gekka no Yasoku has over PSX SotN is proper loopable music and maybe playable Maria.

And one more thing.

The badly stretched graphics are done via an algorithm for display, or did all the sprites were really squashed manually that badly? becuase here the tree sprite looks ok

>>7223305
I mean if you're gonna compare console gaming with emulating and having no load times than there's really no reason to play any games on native hardware at all, just emulate them on the gaming PC you already own or play one of the re-releases for modern consoles I guess.

If you're planning on playing shoot 'em ups or fighting games (especially 2D Capcom fighting games) on a retro console however than you basically have to choose between playing gutted versions on the PS1, or games that are either arcade perfect (or practically arcade perfect) on the Saturn.

You could always track down a Neo Geo if you want a literal arcade experience, but Neo Geo fighters run perfectly fine on the Saturn so you would be spending a lot of extra money for no reason.

You can reduce loadtimes on native Saturn hardware with an ODE. The data bus can only transfer data so fast, so you won't see massive decreases like you do with the PS2 and a hard drive with OPL, but you will definitely see a decrease due to not having seek times on an optical drive.

>>7221129
I'm glad, but let's be honest here, playing Outrun with anything other than the original Splash Wave blasting from your speakers is heresy.

>>7221087
>many of the most influential games of all time
So many you can't even name one.

>>7223858
The Saturn version does some weird shit where it duplicates every Xth vertical line (I forget the exact number, I think it's every 6th).

At this point everyone should have played SotN a million times by now and doesn't really need the dialogue translated, but the major upside to translating the Saturn version is having all of the items be in English. This means you don't have to scroll through a hundred different weapons trying to figure out which one is which.

The other major upside is getting to play the full game, with the two major areas that were cut from the PS1 version (technically four areas if you count their upside down versions), and hearing the arranged sountrack.

The downside to playing the Saturn version is the framerate drops, which are caused by the game being rushed on the system and the devs using sloppy code. A version of the game built from the ground up for the Saturn (or at least a competently done port) would run as smooth as butter. We've seen plenty of examples of highly detailed sprite based 2D platformers on the Saturn to know that it's possible.

>>7223883
Let me guess, he'd just rattle off the same "Goldeneye, Mario 64, Perfect Dark, Ocarina of Time.... uhhhhh" answer that literally everyone gives whenever they are asked about good N64 games.

>>7219603
Weird. It runs fine on a MODE.

what's the best Saturn emulator?

>>7224342
The Mednafen core on retroarch, beetle Saturn. I can play Saturn games perfectly on my laptop from 2013.

Have any of you replaced your Saturn's PSU with the Mobius one? I'm thinking of getting one so that I don't have to worry about sourcing a replacement if mine fails in the future.

>>7208012
I still got my first grey one from 1994. Cost a fortune to import on launch.

>>7224749
>still got my first grey one from 1994
Same here. They are built like tanks. Still works fine.

>>7224342
SSF

>>7208012
was going to get one but decided to collect arcade boards instead

every good game on the saturn is an arcade port anyway

>>7225357
I'm of the opinion taking the enhanced or extended gameplay of arcade ports over the authenticity of the actual arcade games.

>>7224342
Mednafen
SSF for toasters

>>7208012
I have a PAL Saturn, and from my experience playing Super Tempo and Keio Flying Squadron 2 with the Action Replay softmod installed i never experienced any issues with it, never found glitches or de-syncs whatsoever.

>>7224118
It's a known issue with the Fenrir. It's the only non-multidisc game that is listed as incompatible with the Fenrir (although their compatibility list cuts off before it even gets to the end of the alphabet; it's also several months old, although it seems accurate now as it was then if Bug! still doesn't work).

>>7217362
Its always funny to me when people like you brag about having poor taste.

>>7220987
Stop posting on this board until you do.

>>7222393
Gatekeeping is a good thing woman.