/vr/ - Retro Games

>There's a beta sprite for every Arceus form

Praying for more prototypes.

>>6662904
I mean it mostly just colour swap

Leaks list

>>6662858
TCRF did cover a few things from the gigaleak already: https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Super_Mario_World_(SNES)/Background_Graphics_and_Tilemaps
https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Super_Mario_World_(SNES)/Sprites

>>6662913
Wasn't there before the Gigaleak?

>>6662914
There's a prerelease page from before the leak yeah, but those pages were only added after it, and they mention paths like "NEWS\NEWS\テープリストア\NEWS_11\NEWS_11\hino\z-mario-4"

>>6662914
it was part one of gigaleak. Gigaleak part 2 is n64 galore

hey, any anon willing to help me properly map the textures on a model?

>>6662910
Am i seeing a pattern in when the leaks drop?

>>6662937
It was every Friday for a few weeks, then there was a two month break, now we got two new leaks last Friday and Saturday. Today's going to be fun.

>>6662937
I dunno, are you?

No leaks this weekend. Sorry guys.

>>6662940
No idea but it seem there one or two months between drops or just days?

>>6662937
>>6662939

As cool as it would be to have another week of leaks to rummage through, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Gigaleak was pretty big, we still have plenty of games to go through still as well

It could happen and it could not.
Tackle what we got first ya dinks

>>6662953
What are you doing

>>6662935

Have you figured out what the shape files are yet? I've been eyeballing them and can't figure out what they are

>>6662956
I'm just saying because there seem like a pattern

How do you make the NES roms usable? The ones with the numbered file extensions?

So are DS games fair game despite not being /vr/?

>>6662960
:)

>>6662974
We'll cross that bridge when we come to it since the only leaked DS games so far are Pokemon ones and you can talk about them on /vp/

>>6662935
make a blend with the model and texture and I'll do it after I get up from this nap. covid is kicking my ass at work so I need to sleep immediately before I pass out on my desk
>>6662974
wait till x thing happens then ask

Anyone making a drive that have software and stuff that was found in the leak?

>>6662981
yo dont die homie, it be sad

>>6662963
what shape files?

>>6662981
i'll get you that real quick.

>>6663000
they are literally called .shape

Check in basic_enemy

>>6663005
OH! No, I have no idea what those are.

We Mario Kart R now

>>6662974
Someone should go on the 4chan IRC/Discord and ask the mods if it'd be ok as long as we stick to these megathreads. I'm positive we'll get gba/gc/ds stuff eventually.

>>6662968
you have to make an iNES header, and then bundle it all together into a single file.
i haven't been able to find a tool that does this, but i think you can do that last part at least by just using binary copy in whatever OS you're using. the order should be header -> prg file -> chr file
i haven't given it a try yet, but if i had to guess i'd say that the files ending in P are the prg files and the ones ending in C are the chr files

https://twitter.com/Marionova64/status/1288818364132057093?s=09

>>6663019
Not until i see a single MK64 Kamek sprite.

>>6663034
Which file/folder has the mario gba source?

>>6663038
Kamek's back sprite is between Mario and Toad

>>6663040
marioAGB folder if I had to take one guess.

Stop reaking right now.

>>6663049
Oh, in bbgames. That tweet is full of shit then. There's almost no source code in there.

How many people know about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5OcdTCTAnU

>>6663034
>"the entire source code for Super Mario Advance"
No, nothing inside bbgames is complete, like the other games in there marioAGB is like 60% precompiled into .o files, sucks since it's always the more interesting parts that are compiled too, and also stops us from making any kind of port like people always ask about.

Really hope leakchad has more leaks like the first gigaleak which had full source for everything, hope he feels like sharing more with us soon.

>>6663069
Got cut off, there's an updated file list btw with more filenames, dunno if the pic is too big or not now though.

>>6662981
here's the blend file. if anyone else wants a shot at trying to map and apply the textures properly, by all means go ahead.
https://anonfiles()com/f5F1naJdof/betariohead_blend

low poly luigi. Not sure if he was brought to light yet but here he is

>>6662893
>Gigaleak RedditThread
cringe

>>6663069
Dr Mario 64 has full source. And I think the two basketball games do, too.

Plus, the o files do have a lot of useful info embedded in them, like variable and function names. Plus all the headers we have help a lot, too. All the info in those files could speed up decompilation 10x.

>>6663081
You got it wrong, man, that's the other one, the one filled with /v/ tourists

>>6662893
Sorry about that
Star Fox leaks rundown w/downloads: https://pastebin.com/7mawb4FN

>>6663089
>All the info in those files could speed up decompilation 10x.
Too bad they cant touch the header files with a ten foot pole. Legally anyway

>>6663090
Stop replying to /v/tards

>>6663050
put hats on goombas in paper mario again or the private info gets it

>>6663079
huh, neat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K_UTbP7QTU

>>6663079
I'm guessing this is the distant render like Mario has in the final?

>>6663183
exactly

>>6663189
i gave myself carprle or how ever its spelt from trying to make models

>>6663220
carpal tunnel. yeah, i have it, it's no fun.
that's why i just import the models into the actual rom, it builds them itself and it's less taxing on my hands

So, whats the story on the leak?

Hacker hacked iQue, got arrested, hacked files were confiscated, then discovered in an evidence room to be released online?

Hacker got out of jail after 15 years, his HDDs weren't confiscated, and he's finally leaking what he stole?

>>6663257
>Hacker got out of jail
What're you on about?

>>6663261

A pastebin said the hacker was arrested, but it doesnt say if that was recently, or a decade ago.

>>6663257
Hacker sent out files to a bunch of people before he got busted (in fact he probably only got found out because he leaked that pokemon ROM publicly, so he probably had access to this stuff for months)
After he got busted the judge decided he was too autistic for prison so he got a suspended sentence with an internet ban IIRC
Search zammis clark for more info

>>6663257
Nah nah nah, this is something completely different

>>6663268
Oh and this happened in late 2017/early 2018

>>6663257
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nintendo_data_leak

>>6663263
No because he is under house arrested because he wasn't right of mind for jail?

>>6663268
>internet ban
Fucking bullshit. Also this guy is a hero.

>>6663257
wack0 is on the spectrum and super autistic. He decides one day to phish employees of various companies. He succeeds and manages to get into the iQue servers, GameFreak servers, Microsoft servers, and other undisclosed servers. He lifted 2.5TB worth of data. He shared an undisclosed amount with his friends. He destroyed the drive out of fear of LEA coming for him. According to his friends, only 500gb got shared before he freaked and physically destroyed the drive. LEA got him and he's under house and can't use a computer. His friends and other sources have been leaking what he grabbed since. Assuming 500gb is what we're getting out of this leak, we haven't even been given the surface yet.

>>6663291
>destroyed the drive out of fear of LEA coming for him. According to his friends, only 500gb got shared before he freaked and physically destroyed the drive.
Proof?

>>6663297
There is no proof, only Discord chats with names redacted. Believe as hard or softly as you want about what we're expected to get in the coming months/years.

>>6663290
>phish employees of various companies. He succeeds and manages to get into the iQue servers
With iQue I heard it was the servers themselves, they were running since like 2002 without ever being updated, and were only taken down after wack0 was arrested, probably since Ninty realized how full of holes they were
Guy definitely had the skill to hack stuff properly, he was writing exploits & reporting security bugs and shit all the time, his mastodon posts are pretty interesting reads.

Wouldn't be surprised if phishing worked for the others though, those Xbox Underground guys did the same shit back in 2011

Wack0 and Zammis are two different people btw

>>6663312
No, they aren't. Zammis = wack0/riley/raichain/raylee/slipstream

>>6663182
So the wind acts just like Farore's wind in the final. And it's interesting to see that the fire medallion used a different animation initially

>>6663323
oof you right, didnt do my research. Im thinkin of ganix and wack0

>>6663291
>He lifted 2.5TB
>He shared an undisclosed amount
>He destroyed the drive

Something about this infuriates me. God I hope most of that data was just junk and customer info.

>>6663341
Because until DKC came out, Nintendo was losing an uphill battle against Sega. When DKC came out alongside the Sega CD and we all saw how incompetent Sega was, why would you ever want to mention in an interview that a shittier Donkey Kong game was in production, DKC's tech demo was better than it, and the shitty Donkey Kong game became Yoshi's Island?

>>6663069
>>6662910
>ique sdk's
does this mean i can finally put any game I want onto my ique memory card?

>>6662896
>>6662913
Also check the "Recent Pages" link on the side. You'll get a better idea of what leaks they're recording. Usually starts with the label "prerelease" and "proto"

Also change the limit to "500" and uncheck "group results by page" to see more at once.

>>6663359
Nah, there's still a few differences between N64 & iQue, iQue is hacked enough so you can put any iQue game on your card and play it without needing a license, but afaik nobody has actually ported any N64 stuff over

>>6663364
Oh but it'd probably be possible to use the iQue SDK with the leaked bbgames to get english versions of them working, wonder if anyone is trying that yet, pretty sure I did see some already compiled english roms in there

>>6663364
there is a guide for the ique game though? maybe im retarded but ive done a fair bit of searching and found nothing,

>>6663375
Hmm not sure, I haven't really been involved with this stuff in a while, maybe the wiki has some tutorials on it but I'm not sure http://www.iquebrew.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
There's a discord which usually has helpful people in it though, should be linked on there I think

i'm SO FUCKING CLOSE BUT I CANT FIGURE IT OUT SOMEONE HELP

>>6663375
Oh wait, there's a guide at https://iquebrew.github.io actually

>>6663351
I hope that's not true.. The idea alone makes me wanna punch baby Mario in his face till he stops breathing.

>>6662946
Says who?

>>6663026
They already allowed Wii SDK talk during the April/May leaks, no reason they shouldn’t allow this.

>>6663386
soul

As I understand it, during the last series of leaks, someone posted a picture of a file that said it contained 2.54 TB of data, and claimed to intend to share more of it in mid 2020

Has there not been much waverace64 and starfox64 stuff? I only saw a few mentions in the last 2 threads.

>>6663397
I am losing mine trying to figure out the textures.

>wii leaks
not retro. shouldn't be discussed here.

>>6663395
As long as the GameCube/GBA/NDS/Wii/3DS/WiiU/Switch leaks stay contained to this thread, I don't think the mods would care since this isn't a /vg/ topic and we're not allowed at /v/ anymore. But that's just me, a regular user.

>>6663401
Please post pic so i can sleep at night.

>>6663405
Well I'm afraid that already happened in April and May

>>6663405
kill yourself

>>6663401
>>6663408
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/38727629/#38735918

>>6663401
There was also a claim of a big December leak but I’ve never seen proof of it.

>>6663408
I'm sorry to say I didn't save it. If it ever pops up again I'll be sure to grab it.
But in the end it should be taken with a grain of salt

>>6663416
There were no "claims". There has been speculation because many of the leaks this year have had dates of Christmas 2020 on them.

>>6663415
God damn I hope that's real, if they're only leaking a few gigs a month that's gonna take forever though
>>6663416
Most of the April leaks all had a December 25 2020 timestamp inside them, implying something might happen then, or maybe these were planned for Dec but got pushed forward for some reason, who knows.

Has the original plaque texture been found yet? Or the shoshinkai beta?

>>6663415
Thank you!

>>6663405
fuck off man.

A wii is a form of retro console. it's discontinued. Look up retros definition ya goober

>>6663427
Nah, AFAIK the only texture we have is the one baked into the map, we don't have the source texture for it or anything, hopefully there's a more complete SM64 source somewhere that has it

>>6663427
not that i know of. the mario model from the shoshinkai beta was part of the bbgames leak, but it's not that different aside from a different head model that's slightly lower poly than the final.

>>6663405
mods will literally remove these threads from /v/ now

>>6663427
Nothing yet, there's a slight chance it's chilling on the Zelda side since both games are confirmed to be worked on at the same time and we might receive it if we get a clearer leak featuring the real original stuff but otherwise everything points out to being made and then quickly slapped together

>>6663427
>Has the original plaque texture been found yet?
The texture was found, but it's in the same resolution as the original. As it's used in multiple games for various purposes, one has to assume it was never meant to say anything spesific at all

>>6663351
Are there even enough nintendo games for there to be 2.5 tb worth?

>>6663449
Probably. Games get exponentially bigger as the generations go on

>>6663449
30+ years of games? you bet your anon ass there is

>>6663449
Once you get past the gamecube era, yeah

>>6663405
"Retrogaming, also known as classic gaming and old school gaming, is the playing or collecting of older personal computer, console, and/or arcade video games in contemporary times. Usually, retrogaming is based upon systems that are obsolete or discontinued."

"Wii Discontinued
JP: October 20, 2013
EU: October 24, 2013
AU: November 2011"

>>6663479
We go by the board's definition, which is currently pre 2000's games with the implication that it will progress with each generation. But as the leak includes games ranging trough many generations, there may be an exception like back in April and May. It's honestly up to the mods

Really wish this had a proper pallet. The proto-misery mire looks a lot more involved than what we got in the final version.

>posts getting deleted
You guys are bringing down the mods' wrath, stop it!

>>6663493
thats kinda dumb to be honest.
I get it's not on the rules but it's comparing apples to apples now a days.

/v/ and /vg/ is just pure toxicity to the point that you cant even talk about the wii there.

A wii is old and clunky and outdated. The only people who still play them religiously are faggots like me

>>6663449

The thing is, those could contain uncompressed audio, uncompressed renders, development tools, notes, emails, schematics. The fucking works.

>>6663513
I agree. But we really don't have any say in it

>>6663513
>The only people who still play them religiously are faggots like me
Or for games that haven't been ported

I appericate you mods, you guys do a great job. but can you come to see that a wii is retro?

We have a next gen right around the corner, it's a old hunck of plastic collecting dust on peoples shelves.

more beta textures from OoT

>>6663536

>>6663513
The mods don't care and will only do something when people get mad and report it

i tried importing it into the game using the .mtl file of another sm64 mario model, well, didn't go well. what the fuck am i supposed to do?

>>6663525
well that's why you play a "retro" console

There's plenty of nes games i can't play on virtual console. Speaking of virtual console, the wii's virtual console is no long available too.

So if i can't use a wii to even play the retro games it ported over, then wouldnt count as retro?

>>6663494
No .col files that match it in the files? I assume not even the real game's palette fits eh?

>>6663536
>>6663539
Aw shit, its happening.

>>6663548
>the wii's virtual console is no long available too.
Not from Nintendo you mean

>>6663559
If you can get me a wii full of virtual console games, and i mean with the virtual console logo and channel opening

Which of you retards tagged all the Star Fox 2 posts on the booru as Star_Fox_64?

https://superdonkey.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=114

Fuck you.

>>6663494
Until one sees it applied to an area a tileset like that is hard to get a feel for.

>>6663448
>one has to assume it was never meant to say anything spesific at all
Or one could assume it says “Eternal Star” because it looks like Eternal Star And appears on the base of a star statue.

>>6663567
Yeah i mean someone had to make their own version of that i would think

Is Brawl source code in this Wii leaks?

>>6663613
dont got revolution leaks yet

>>6663613
No.

>>6663592
I would assume that if it actually looked like it said Eternal Star

>>6663619
nahhhh it's just scribbles

>>6663617
>>6663615
Okay.
But I hope at least there's prototype characters like Motos and other characters in SMW sprite leaks.

>>6663625
Oh there's all kinds of that.

>>6663592
I first saw it in Dodongo's Cavern in OoT. I didn't play SM64 till much later

>>6663631
Yeah, but I mean characters that never got the light of days, nor ever appreciated by fans.

>>6663635
The codes, machines, gamplay, etc. is cool though.

>>6663613
Believe me, you'll know anything Smash got leaked the nanosecond it happens.

>>6663635
All kinds of things.

yo so wait who leaked gigaleak?
Im like dumb and can't keep up with names

i'm about to give up unless somehow i figure out how to apply the textures.

Who was the Anon who made that Yoshi 3 model thing

>>6663019
Yea what the fuck is going on with this? Did nobody find anything MK64 related yet?

>>6663648
Sou, take a break for the night

I'll help you out tomorrow

>>6663647
presumably
>chinks -> wack0 -> ???? -> ???? -> profit -> vp leaker poster

>>6663659
I wonder why he chose vp in particular

>>6663545
I don't know, anon. But I'm enjoying this painful journey you've set yourself on.

>>6663658
i probably should, i'm gonna get a fucking aneurysm if i go anymore today.

i'm gonna import a couple models and add them to the repo like the "ultra super mario" title and call it a day.

>>6663278
>An official Game Boy emulator.
>A development repository for the "Ensata" Nintendo DS emulator.
where can someone get this?

>>6663536
>>6663539
hi m-1 :v

>>6663675
Yeah no point making yourself worked up,

We got plenty of time to figure it all out, I know some model makers/rom hackers so I'll give them a shout in the morning

>>6662893
Just to be sure...
Star Fox 1 and 2 got both their source codes leaked or was it just 2?
What about 64?

>>6663386
Python anon here, I finally figured this stuff out, UV coordinates ARE included in the ply model, they are just gigantic and you have to scale them down so they match the textures.

Vertex color are super wrong still I just added this colors super quick in blender

>>6663687
I think it was just 2, though a prototype of 1 (Star Glider) got leaked.
>What about 64?
I don't think so. The uncompressed voice files are there though and those got ripped.

>>6663687
>Star Fox 1 and 2 got both their source codes leaked or was it just 2?
Both

>What about 64?
The uncompressed voice lines have been found. I haven't seen anything else about it otherwise.

so any news on a source code for snes mini emulator?

Did we get anything new these past few days?

>>6663702
>>6663704
thanks anons

>>6663536
Do you have the filepath for this?

>>6662893
anyone got a download for that employee's porn stash that ISN'T a slow ass google drive download?

>>6663698
Omg pythanon! You have blessed us, so are they those lil dots we see when we drag the model around?

>>6663698
how do convert mario64 models to work in blender
how to view warioland4 files
what am doing wrong

>>6663619
I, too, can imagine Japanese characters where there are none. Or, I could remember that I'm looking a goddamn star statue, recall the "Eternal Star" board in Mario Party, and see pic related like thousands of others see.

>>6663747

>>6663747
>>6663752
Bro

>>6663698
will you tell me how to do this please? thanks pythanon

>>6663752
Huh. I would've bet anything that I'd seen every Zelda 64 screenshot there is too see, and yet here this is.

>>6663747
Path?

>>6663747
It's embedded in a weird format, in
>z_ocarina/data/shape2/zelda_tool_rom/zelda_tool_rom.o

>>6663663
The earliest leaks were all pokemon stuff.

>>6663747
>>6663752
Is someone once said "it keep happening my friend"

this is my attempt at remaking the "ultra super mario" title screen. probably not that good, but an attempt was made and it will be patched into a super mario 64 rom soon.

>>6663770
i told you about stairs bro!

>>6663747
>>6663767
>z_ocarina/data/shape2/zelda_tool_rom/zelda_tool_rom.o
Fuck, I really thought OoT was done. The architecture looks almost like Smash 64 Hyrule Castle.

>>6663787
>The architecture looks almost like Smash 64 Hyrule Castle.
And so does the final in-game castle.

>>6663581
Someone is handling this shit.

She's the best. I'm naming her Beta. She knows Bagu and Error.

>>6663787
>>6663794

>>6663798
her name is bettany now

>>6663794
>>6663809
Right. I never paid attention because you don't actually get to go up there, and I'm a retard.

>>6663747
Hyrule Castle?

>>6663581
>>6663797
And he's done.
Retards got BTFO'd by based cars33.

>>6663798
She actually looks better than most npcs in the final game. Hell, a lot of beta assets do like the keese. Did Nintendo have to make everything look a bit worse without the DD?

>>6663545
I seen this weird faced Mario for days now, what are you trying to acomplish anon?

>>6663824
Nice. If you're reading this cars33, thanks.

>>6663323
You forgot his original handle.
The Wack0lian– Wack0^KaOs

>>6663830
i'm trying to implement some early mario 64 stuff that we've gotten into this one rom, but mario's textures have been giving me trouble

>>6663751
Sorry about your eyesight, glad adding unrelated letters on top of the texture helped you though. Guess I have to be the first to tell you that the letter E doesn't have an extra line coming off the back.

>>6663840
yes, there are differences between the early and final models of mario - the early mario had a much lower poly head and was generally not as smooth.

Where the fuck is the fuckbees.zip file? I think I've been able to find everything else, but I have no idea where to get fuckbees.zip

>>6663859
It's some random old garbage.

>>6663843
as someone who is into graphic design, that might be some visual artifact made by compressing the image to 32x32. it could still be an e.

my personal belief is that it's just random scribbles.

>>6663745
>>6663749
>>6663760
It gonna be a little difficult I you don't know the basics of UV mapping in blender (familiarize yourselves with the edit mode and UV Editor in blender and you can easily replicate my work using the SOU to PLY script and the txtconverter I wrote), but it's not that complicated I have work to do but fret not in a few hours I can upload the blend file so you can take a peek while I do a some sort of guide.

>>6663659
Is leaker at least based and would've posted here anyways instead of resetera if there were no ramifications

>>6663079
Nice. Anything else new from SM64 get discovered in the past couple days? Last thing I am aware of is Moto, beta Yoshi design, and beta Penguin eyes.

>>6663861
that doesn't make me not want it

>>6663752
>>6663747
Where would link be standing?

>>6663820
Exterior of it, yes. I really hope we will also find the interior. That would be a dream come true.

>>6663843
Sorry you never learned how pixelization works. Guess I have to be the first to show you.

>>6663892
I usually geek out over everything, but even I can't see what the big deal was about proto Yoshi. The differences are minor.

>>6663913
You're correct, but you should at least use the same font the Eternal Star claimers use

>>6663291
There's no proof he destroyed the drive. Anything that claims he destroyed it is just rumors.

>>6663886
We don't know much about leaker-san. He mostly just posts links with no message or something like "moar". Although interestingly, in the Friday leak he made the subject of the thread "fuck ganix".
>>>/vp/44305551

Recolored the Yoshi's Island beta Mario sprites from >>6652251 using the SMW palette and put them in a rough animation. Incomplete but I can't be bothered fixing it.
Gives a rough idea on how it would have looked though.

>>6663943
Feels weird to see Mario in the Yoshi Island look

>>6663943
oh god i just noticed the white pixels i missed. god dammit

good to see this still going and people working hard analyzing. cool stuff.

>>6663747
That is 00

>>6663970
What that?

>>6663976
map numbers.png

>>6663985
And what's map number

>>6663913
Huh, look at that. Looks nothing like the plaque inscription, Eternal Star eternally btfo.

>>6663976
>>6663987
The map in >>6663747 is represented by the 00 spot on the >>6663970 image

>>6663991
Yeah, the more I look at that the more it looks like Japanese characters.

>>6663976
ok I'm stopping this bit right here.
The map is supposedly the original layout for the areas with 00 being the central hub

>>6663943

>Wii source code leaked

>>6664010
oh shit oh fuck oh shit oh fuck oh shit oh fuck

>>6663929
>implying that all Eternal Star claimers have tested their theory with the SM64 font
It just happens to be a font that fits the overall shape of the supposed letters. The texture would've been likely written by hand by the same artist who designed the game's font style.
>>6663991
>>6664000
Huh, look at that. If you write 'Eternal Star' and pixelize it it just happens to look a lot like your Japanese characters. Cope.

>>6664040
cringe

>>6663827
yeah pretty much. The DD was meant to make things look better because it allowed for more room in the data.

>>6664040
Yeah, the more I look at this the more it looks like Eternal Star.

>>6664040
That doesn't look the same, not the first character and especially not the middle portion. You tried.

>>6664040
Yeah, the more I look at that the more it looks like Japanese characters.

>>6663943
>>6664010
SOUL
O
U
L

>>6662332
Didn't someone find a 3d map of this? Might be another test map.

>>6664058
You tried to suggest that it was Japanese without suggesting what word it's supposed to be. I showed that a specific English phrase can be compressed to look mostly like the SM64. Expecting it to look exactly the same when the general shape of it is there is just pathetic.
>>6664063
Which ones, nigger?

Today is now Friday in my timezone where I live in.
So don't get hyped about it yet, the next Nintendo data leak could happen at anytime in this day or not.

>>6664037
cuse?

>>6664073
A new link was posted in the /ppg/ thread on /vp/. Wanna be the guinea pig to see what it is? I'm 99% sure it's not the leaker that posted it so I haven't clicked it.

>>>/vp/44380068
Please don't let this be porn or just image spam shit.

>>6664087
inb4 dolphin porn again

https://twitter.com/MrTalida/status/1289060699373805568

>>6663767
how did you extract geo from compiled code? .o file

>>6664090
Proof?

>>6664071
The only thing that's pathetic is that you think your pixelization is a good match for the actual thing. I didn't suggest it was anything than the kanji for "upper" and the kana for "code" on the left because the rest is fucking illegible so saying it's without a doubt anything is pure delusion.

>>6664086
>>6664087
I will see what in it

>>6664101
its 5 mb It's a hefty boy

>>6664110
2 minutes on my end, lets hope it's good shit anon

>>6664040
The second character and the s look somewhat similar. Otherwise, you're really reaching to call those two the same.

brainlet here, what the fuck is this

>>6664130
midget porn is by best guess

>>6664130
>30/12/2016
Holy fuck, we have to fucking find out what format it is using.

>>6664116
Here what's in it

>>6663494
>>6663494
Shit. Where's that file located? I found it once, and I'm pretty sure I had a working palette for it, but now I can't rember which folder I found the graphics in to begin with.

>>6664139
try opening it in notepad or hex editor for clues

>>6664156
Like HxD?

Look at what I've found.

>>6664174
THATS MOTHER HOLY SHIT

well, imma log off for tonight, i've uploaded the "ultra super mario" .ply files to the repo.

>>6664179
That's fake

>>6664174
every fucking thread, get out larpfag

>>6664174
based

>>6664174
>>6664179
please stop posting this fucking file.
it's fake n gay
like me

>>6664174
>>6664179

>>6664174
plz be real

>>6664156
What should i be looking for?

>>6664196
Just post a screenshot of as much as the head and possible, I'm sure someone will figure it out.
I'm guessing it's a ROM so try opening it in an emulator.

>>6664087
>>6664130

>>6664202
It a fucking rickroll

>>6664204
oh my god

>>6664204
can confirm :/

>>6664204
Holy shit a loafer and slacks
What does it mean?

>>6664204
Honestly based.

>>6663913
Youve now got the top line of the E to explain why it isnt there on the texture

Its not a fucking E dumbass. You'd have to draw it in such a dumb way to get it to look like the texture when compressed its not even a valid argument

>>6664204
Never gonna give these leaks up.

>>6664052
>>6664058
>>6664106
I don't know what's sadder, the fact that I'm arguing with a bunch of literal zoomers who don't know understand image compression distorts text, the fact that you all expect any experiment in recreating the texture to look the same when that's fucking impossible without the original artist, or the fact that I felt the need to
1. Space out the letters a little more
2. Highlight some pixels manually because I obviously don't know how many shades of white were in the original so of course some blocks will look different
3. Paste it over the plaque texture because you're all too dumb to not let those pixels affect how you interpret the original texture
just to make a fairly obvious point that non-contrarians the world over have long since accepted.
>>6664262
Well "You drew the E in a weird way" is a better argument "Uh some of them look kinda like Japanese letters and the rest is gibberish lol", I'll give you that.

>>6664295
nigger

>>6664295
stop posting cringe

>>6664308
Stop being a faggot contrarian.

>>6663943
Very nice, but the animation is still incomplete, it's clearly missing like half of the frames, which is why it looks a bit janky. I should giving it a touch up later.

>>6663943
Very nice, but the animation is still incomplete, it's clearly missing like half of the frames, which is why it looks a bit janky. I should try giving it a touch up later.

>>6664295
Show the full compression frame by frame as you actually do it in the window of whatever application you're using.

>>6663494
Never mind I found it. NEWS_04\home\arimoto\tanabe\sab.CGX and sab.COL.

Anything Paper Mario related?

>>6664354
Nope.

>>6664354
We got two "prototype" images of it and that's it.

>>6664346
I haven't been able to find a map that's intended to use this tileset yet, but here's one that wasn't intended for it using it anyway.

>>6664295
>claims other don't understand compression's distortions
>insists a distorted mess of scribbles is not compressed enough for him to make out his fake Eternal Star message

>>6664341
Paste this into GIMP and use the Pixelize tool to replicate it yourself. As I said before, I highlighted certain pixels afterward to account for whatever compression Nintendo used that caused some pixels to be much brighter than others. But the important thing was always that the overall shape was recreated, and you can't make a similar looking texture out of just any phrase. English speakers have been seeing a lower case e, r, a, and l there for 25 years for good reason.

>>6664368
>insists a distorted mess of scribbles is not compressed enough for him to make out his fake Eternal Star message
Try that again, but next time try to make your greentext comport with reality.

>>6664380
>English speakers have been seeing a lower case e, r, a, and l there for 25 years for good reason.
Because they usually know nothing other than English and kids will assume it's in their language.
>>6664390
You try again from square one without your cataracts.

>>6664295
get fucked

>>6664394
>Because they usually know nothing other than English and kids will assume it's in their language.
And your suggestion is that it's two random Japanese words that have nothing to do with stars and nothing to do with each other followed by illegible text. This is more plausible to you than over two decades of people interpreting it as something with the aforementioned English letters. It could be something spelling in Romaji, even, but no, gotta go with your shitty theory that it's a mixture of kanji and kana (as Nintendo was ever in the fucking business of mixing alphabets so wantonly).
Suck my dick.
>>6664396
Yes, it COULD theoretically be L is real! That actually fits the shape of the fucking text, as attested by every fucking person who has ever looked at the texture and come away at least seeing r, e, a, and l. And it's not like I'm even pulling the "Eternal Star" out of my ass, that interpretation gained ground a long fucking time ago.

>>6664380
>Paste this into GIMP and use the Pixelize tool to replicate it yourself.
Don't care enough + burden of proof is on you.
>I highlighted certain pixels afterward to account for whatever compression Nintendo used that caused some pixels to be much brighter than others.
Then your mockup isn't very reliable in that case.
>But the important thing was always that the overall shape was recreated, and you can't make a similar looking texture out of just any phrase.
Coincidences exist and your process is full of room for error with so many assumptions.

This list looks like bullshit, but if it's true, where is the Yoshi Story stuff?

>>6664440
It was mentioned on like leak thread 50 or something. I think it's a lot of broken data, kind of like animal crossing so we can't super dig into it. That or people are just more focused on Zelda and Mario since they're the big 2.

>>6664419
Why would it have anything to do with stars? Clearly since it was used in OoT the texture doesn't refer to one specific in-game thing. Lots of kids also see it as L is Real which is entirely fucking different and a testament that what's on it can't be completely discerned. What I do know is that no other in-game texture in either SM64 or OoT is in English, in fact, all of OoT's are an alternate Japanese.
>This is more plausible to you than over two decades of people interpreting it as something with the aforementioned English letters.
Sure, among the English-only community but that's not proof of anything. Keep pushing your BS all you want, it'll never be the verified without-a-doubt truth.

>>6664440
the yoshi folder in the bbgames.

That said, it's looks at first glance to be significantly incomplete, but I haven't looked into it, and I doubt many others have either.

>>6663843
>>6663913
It's just a serif, retards. It's a plaque, so instead of this retard holding a crayon >>6664040 , it would be fancy lettering like this.
But good demonstration on the pixelation.

>>6663050
All you had to do was not ruin starfox. But you took it a step further and killed a new ip at the same time as you dipped starfox in oil and watched it slowly die.

Alright I woke back up, I'm gonna see about this mario head and the uvs.

>>6664435
>Don't care enough + burden of proof is on you.
Cringe.
>Then your mockup isn't very reliable in that case.
Oh for fuck's sake. YOU take the image and compress it the exact way Nintendo did. The important thing is that I didn't add any pixels, just highlighted them because I don't trust you have the intelligence to judge it by all the pixels rather than simply the ones that stand out to you.
>Coincidences exist and your process is full of room for error with so many assumptions.
And your process seems to be to see two unrelated Japanese characters from two separate alphabets and reject any interpretation involving English characters "because reasons".
I just learned that some people also think it says
>A Secret Star
>lies here ~
which, when taken with the fact that they hid a star there in Mario Odyssey, is also more plausible than your bullshit-reeking Japanese theory.

>>6664451
>Why would it have anything to do with stars? Clearly since it was used in OoT the texture doesn't refer to one specific in-game thing.
Because it's used once in all of SM64 statue, specifically on a statue, and predates its use in OoT?
>Lots of kids also see it as L is Real which is entirely fucking different and a testament that what's on it can't be completely discerned.
But has four of the same letters in it. The 'L is Real', 'Eternal Star', and 'A Secret Star' theorists all see at least three of those four letters.
> What I do know is that no other in-game texture in either SM64 or OoT is in English, in fact, all of OoT's are an alternate Japanese
And yet the beta had a Bowser texture with his name written in Romaji: https://superdonkey.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=122
>Sure, among the English-only community but that's not proof of anything. Keep pushing your BS all you want,
Jesus Christ. It's not "my" BS, it's countless gamers' belief that it says Eternal Star. This is not an uncommon reading at all. There's no need for me to "push" a common theory.
>it'll never be the verified without-a-doubt truth.
This sounds like sour grapes to me. More people see something with English letters than will ever see some ridiculous half translation of Japanese using different alphabets for God knows what reason.

>>6664467
what new ip?

>>6664485
They killed dino planet by merging it into a starfox game because they wanted to stall for an in house mainline game

They then proceeded to have namco develop it who did a better job than they would have anyways at the time.

>>6663090
It's all the same shit

>>6664485
Dinosaur Planet.

>>6664480
>Cringe.
The only cringe-worthy thing about it is the fact that you'd use a filthy buzzword as a counter to being reminded how arguments work.
>YOU take the image and compress it the exact way Nintendo did.
Or YOU can accept that yours is only 1 interpretation, and that with as little we have to go off of, you have no basis to say any other idea is more right or wrong.
>And your process seems to be to see two unrelated Japanese characters from two separate alphabets and reject any interpretation involving English characters "because reasons".
Bold of you to assume I'm that anon when you got 2 replies to that post alone and even more on others. At any rate, the alphabet/relationship thing isn't an issue because Katakana is a stand in for for foreign words anyway, and I'm only rejecting your interpretation over others.

>>6664440
It's tiny chunks of code for each. Not full source code. It should really specify. Starfox 1-2, f-zero, and Mario kart I think are full source code though. Less sure about Mario kart

>>6664174
whoa spoilers bro

>>6663747

>>6664493
>The only cringe-worthy thing about it is the fact that you'd use a filthy buzzword as a counter to being reminded how arguments work.
More cringe. Why does every fedora-tipping neckbeard teenager think they're experts in logic and reason when what they really try to do is impose conditions on others to escape doing the work themselves? I posted two different images showing that the text can be rendered to resemble the SM64 texture. The fact that I told you how I did it is enough; I'm under no obligation to go through the trouble of documenting every step just because you're a lazy piece of shit looking for an easier way out of an argument. That's now how science works. If scientist A shows scientist B what he did and tells him how he did it, then if he's really interesting in finding out the truth, scientist B will want to try scientist A's experiment for himself. He won't just fold his arms and go "le burden is on you huehuehue"..
>Or YOU can accept that yours is only 1 interpretation
A widely accepted interpretation, zoomer.
>you have no basis to say any other idea is more right or wrong.
But I can weigh the likelihood of it saying ____ star + the anecdotal of everyone who has ever seen the same 4 English letters against the nonsense you are positing that it is an incomplete Japanese phrase composed of two different alphabets.

I'll just leave this here.

>>6664487
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOVBRJToVDY

I am eternally salty about Dinosaur Planet, I really want to see what the original was like. The build above was never released as playable anywhere was it?
Not that I even minded Adventures all that much, but it was clear that it wasn't ever meant to be a Starfox game.
>Namco
Assault was also a lot of wasted potential, all those ground stages were just unnecessary and frankly not all that good. The Arwing ones were pretty neat stuff tho, there's just not enough of them.
Should've just gotten Project Aces to make the game

>>6664514
Call me when you get the original texture and not more theory craft stuff

>>6663747
https://pastebin.com/J2NWsNnu
obj file

>>6664521
We've had the original texture for ages.

>>6664526
no no, I mean before scaled down for n64 zelda and mario

>>6664520
I've played the original build. Assault wasn't terrible at all but I could tell namco wanted to make a sequel only to get cockblocked by shiggs the franchise killer as usual

>>6664527
Well that we will probably never have. But in the meantime, theorizing that it's a random mixture of kanji and katana is okay?

Okay.

>>6664531
I don't think theorizing it at all is okay. I rather it just come out from the source.

If the fountain plaque in Super Mario 64 was reused in Ocarina of Time then clearly it was just a texture made for statues or signs, either as a decoration or an interactable object that triggers a message for the player. It means nothing; it's not meant to be looked at for more than half a second from a distance. There are far more interesting things within the found data that are waiting to be discovered and analyzed, and yet some of you guys spend your time arguing over the scribbles on a stupid plaque?

Another hot take to rile up the autists: These signs are using Latin alphabet characters too. As blocky and blurry as they are, they don't resemble Japanese characters one bit. But they do have the spacing, length, and capitalization of letters that you'd expect from English.
>If the fountain plaque in Super Mario 64 was reused in Ocarina of Time then clearly it was just a texture made for statues or signs
Except SM64 came out first. Post-SM64 (NA release date) is when the earliest OoT screenshots were first released, when the game was taking shape and was no longer a tech demo of Link fighting Stalfos. Even if we assume Dodongo's Cavern is one of the first things they worked on, there's no reason at all to assume that it was just a generic texture meant for both games.

Despite the dead hours shitposting autism, you /vr/ and codebros are doing a good job. I'm lovin' the findings and appreciate your work and dedication. Jannies too, I guess, to a lesser extent.
Keep it up, ya' fags.

>>6664541
>>6664547

>>6664547
>>6664548
Why not look around in silicone graphics sdks and see if it's just stock stuff.

>>6664554
Not a bad idea.

It's been way too long since I've actually played through A Link to the Past. Were there rooms like this in the castle?

>>6664558
I remember the Mario portrait, though I don't believe it ever appears in the castle. And those beds don't ring any bells.

>>6664558
The right room looks familiar, but the left ones don't really ring a bell

>>6664547
It's generic in the sense that it's not made for anything in particular. They used it to spice up the fountain in SM64, then decided to reuse it to serve a practical purpose in Ocarina. It wasn't meant to be significant in Mario 64 or hold some secret meaning, it's just meant to look nice, just like the night sky portrait next to the stairs on the second floor.

Tried fixing Mario's SMW2 sprites myself. I've added a bounce to make the flow of the run much more natural and believable, which is probably what the devs wanted it to look like (the motion here is more focused on the legs than the head, hence the slight head bobbing).
On a technical level, it looks like Mario's running poses were going to be much more flexible (i.e. more possible varieties for poses), telling from the body fragments at the top of the original file; he'd probably be made up of 4- tiles. 2 16x16 tiles for head and body (head is 17x17 for some reason?) and 2-4 8x8 tiles for feet and hands. They'd move around according to the game engine. The poses already drawn were probably ideal positions for the limbs. But who knows what the devs wanted to do
If someone knows what file directory that the gfx file were to be in, that would be great

>>6664509
>when what they really try to do is impose conditions on others to escape doing the work themselves?
Again, the work is on you. I don't have to do shit to call out how full of it you are.
>The fact that I told you how I did it is enough
No reason for me to blindly trust some retard on 4chan hellbent on making some retarded point.
>That's now how science works.
>science
Quit deflecting. If anything, the lazy piece of shit here is (You) for making such a half-assed attempt at an argument, sprinkled with ad hominem instead of backing.
>the anecdotal of everyone who has ever seen the same 4 English letters
hyperbole, try again
>the nonsense you are positing that it is an incomplete Japanese phrase composed of two different alphabets.
strawman that reveals your complete lack of knowledge and willful ignorance in how Japanse works, try again

>>6664419
>>6664451
>>6664482
>>6664547
Random anon here. Adding to the conversation:
If you know nothing about Japanese, shut the fuck up.
Mario (and many other games) is FULL of English words.

There is an M on his hat, not a マ.

If you look at the amount of katakana words in the star names, it's honestly repulsive how much Engrish vocabulary is in them. Just made an Excel table, Red = Engrish, with bonus blue for other languages.

If you were arguing against people seeing German or Thai inscriptions on the statue, it'd be one thing. But English is very ingrained in Japanese culture. Italian would also be plausible, and French because that's one of their favorite languages for royal settings in media.

I don't know how Eternal Star can be up for debate, it's painfully obvious. All other proposed variations are gibberish, "L is real 2401" has no elegance, no grammar, no subtlety to it that would make for a cool easter egg hint. Hold your overtheorizing children selves for a while and see a simple design choice to the great Eternal Star for what it is.

>>6664204
HAHAHA XD FUNNY OLD MEME THAT'S OVER 9000

>>6664558
It looks like it's cut content for Hyrule caslte. The pink aesthetic seems to match but the tilesets seem like they've went through some changes since.

>>6664529
>played
Where? Or how?
>Assault
It's not terrible I had fun with it for sure, to me it's just a bit of wasted potential, because you have some really great stages, and then a lot of not so great ones.
>shiggs
It is still a mystery to me how they could fuck up something as simple as a rail shooter francise like Starfox.

>>6664594
Played it in person at the event. They had these big ass statues above the setups.

For real, if you actually legitimately thought that the SM64 devs wrote "L is real" on that plaque, you may be clinically retarded.

L is real is a fun meme though and sometimes I make myself think that that's what it says just for shits.

>>6663094
I mean in nitendos eyes your already a hardened criminal if you even know what a game rom is

>>6664602
>if you don't believe our corporate image fantasy to the letter than you eat kittens!

>>6664602
>meanwhile at nintendo
>uses homebrew for snesclassic

>>6664596
Oh thought you had gotten your hands on a rom somehow. But yeah that's cool.
Anything to share in terms of experience or stuff?

>>6664608
If I had to share anything that I experienced, it's that the game had a fuckton of stuff cut from it.

Even with all the crashing at the kiosks, I still enjoyed it a lot more because it felt more like an adventure. I liked fighting more in the n64 one also because it wasn't flashy for no reason. All your hits did damage. On GCN, only the tail ends of some combos do any damage so the shorter combos work better on that one.

>>6664594
>It is still a mystery to me how they could fuck up something as simple as a rail shooter francise like Starfox.
How could Sega fuck up Sonic over and over? When Japs fuck up, they go for consistency.

>>6664616
The best Sonic games were made in California anyway

>>6664367
those tumor trees looked neato.

>>6664614
Yeah as far as I know they had a lot of stuff planned for it than what we ultimately got. Part of porting it from one system to another with almost no time to spare I suppose, ontop of the rewrite.
Stuff like having the two characters and two kinda plots going on at the same time and all that.

What I'll give adventures is that it had some neat takes on making the Arwing and Great Fox a bit more worn and kinda cartoony. Even if the former was very X-Wing in it. But I kinda liked them.

>>6664616
Fair, but Sega is also Sega

>>6664632
Actually there was another character that was with you and helped you out. That dinosaur bird princess thing.

>>6663798
Gives off a wholesome Malon feel but Ara'd.

>>6664634
The one that presumably got changed into Krystal's buddy in Adventures?

>>6664657
They were always krystal's buddy. In adventures they just fucking get left on the ship because the opening is completely different.

>>6664598
"LUIGI could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this part of the castle before. There could be LUIGI anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his mustache. "I HATE LUIGI" he thought. Inside the Castle Walls reverberated the entire map, making it pulsate even as the 1-up shroom circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of 'L Is real 2401'. "With a Wing Cap you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.

>>6664667
upvoted

>>6664660
Oh wait, the small one you rescue? I was thinking of the one you use to fly in.

>>6664672
Oh, that one was always there too.
>>6664672
Also you basically don't even rescue them on the gamecube. They literally just got turned into what could've been a tutorial sign.

Whever did this blend didn't pack the actual textures into the file

>>6664598
It does say that tho, you can see it clearly in >>6664396

>>6664683
let me know when you find the unscaled version

>>6664675
Yeah, I checked some footage to see and it's just dialogue to tell you about using the A button.
But yeah, all victims of porting it over and rewriting everything I imagine.

>>6664579
>Tried fixing Mario's SMW2 sprites myself. I've added a bounce to make the flow of the run much more natural and believable, which is probably what the devs wanted it to look like (the motion here is more focused on the legs than the head, hence the slight head bobbing).
Good thinking! I remember once struggling to get the walk cycle of the EarthBound character sprites to look right. The problem was I was that I was aligning every frame perfectly with the last. You need to shift the sprite up 1 pixel on every other frame to give it a natural bouncy flow, as you did here.

>>6664726
Forgot pic.

Can someone please leak the Mega Man Legends 3 demo?

>>6664587
>Mario (and many other games) is FULL of English words.
>If you look at the amount of katakana words in the star names, it's honestly repulsive how much Engrish vocabulary is in them.
To be fair, I think that one Anon was arguing that the sign is partly written in Engrish katakana, but either way you make an excellent point: Japanese Mario games, and Nintendo games in general, are full of English words. "Eternal Star" should surprise no one. And they knew they were making something revolutionary for an international audience, so a sign that's written in kanji and katakana would ironically seem more out of place.

>>6664558
I love those bed sprites. They're bringing back memories of the end of Wind Waker, when Zelda is sleeping on a bed with Ganondorf standing over her.

>>6664558
Nope, nothing like that in the final castle

ya know, as annoying it is to get rick rolled, im happy it was just that

>>6664815
I'm surprised no one has yet to ((((leak)))) the usual dolphin porn or worse

>>6664832
>he wasn't in the early /v/ threads

>>6664850
Was there anything else other than a shitty 1gb gorilla pic?

>>6664594
>because you have some really great stages
Like what?

>>6664857
Some of the levels are pretty good but then others are just big nothings by a space base.

>>6664738
>>6664587
Just remembered another important point: Mario SPEAKS English, even in the original game in Japanese.

>>6664587
You don't have to be such a whiny bitch over some blurry as fuck words.
It's just a background element plaque, people. Calm down.

I hope that we can get that old mario model fixed. Any luck on that yet anon

>>6664914
I mentioned that you forgot to embedd all of the files. Also every single edge is marked as sharp for some reason. Is that a side effect of the converter or something?

>>6664919
Probably

>>6664864
>Some of the levels are pretty good but then others are just big nothings by a space base.
...like WHAT?

>>6664926
The space maps where you dogfight are just straight up empty maps with backgrounds added with an invisible barrier. They're way too fucking big to have any good dogfights for one.

>>6664925
Let me know when you get a fixed version up and I'll start trying to map all of this stuff. It'll probably take a few tries here and there.

>>6664857
The on-rail segments is what I was referring to, they're done well and a full game of those would have been good. But they're broken up by things like >>6664864 or any of the planetside ones.

>>6664929
Then what are the good ones? Assault maps are either too big or too small for proper dogfights. I like what star fox 64 3D did with its multi-player by actually giving a more varied and interesting set of maps and items that make the combat more interesting.

>>6664914
still working towards that. i need to find out how to scale the UV properly so the textures will fit on the model, but progress is being made.

>>6664937
I'm more interested in how things would've been had starfox 2 been released earlier.

Command had a good variety of ships and it was great in that regard but every level that wasn't a boss was the exact same thing. Starfox 2 did it much better because every map was not the same. I also didn't like the fog of war shit.

>>6664935
I thought the on rail stages in Assault to be the least fun in the series. It had more focus on shooting enemies for combos while really neglecting the maneuvering and dodging aspects which made the other games so fun. Even Adventures on rail segments for how short and undeveloped they were had moment that had me dodge obstacles and try to incentive me moving around by collecting rings.

>>6664943
Good. Good.

>>6664947
To be fair star fox has rinse and repeat formula in every game in some form. I actually liked the turned based aspect of command including fog of war since it plays with your risk vs reward mentality. I just wished they had a better designer to make them more challenging

>>6664947
Also Starfox 2 didnt force shitty touch controls unlike Coommand

>>6664972
The controls in command at least didn't suck to me. It felt natural to fly them like that. Still I would've preferred classic controls. The barrel roll in that game was op as shit.

>>6664976
I mean its more the fact that its forced its the exact same issue Zero has Well other than it just being star fox 64 again where if you could just choose between classic and gimmick controls it would be so much better

>>6664959
Fair point to make, I was mostly focusing on it within the context of Assault where they are the highlight in my opinion, and they also just look nice, not necessarily comparing it to 1 or 64 in that sense.

>>6664981
What they thought with the controls for both Zero and Command is still a mystery to me.

>>6664981
It gets tiring hearing people keep saying zero and 64 are all the same game. Besides the plot they are quite different.

>>6663364

>so you can put any iQue game on your card and play it without needing a license

Wow, that's pretty significant. So all of the roms are fully playable now? There was some dumb argument saying you couldn't because of the iQue encryption.

>>6665001
I tried on Project 64 and at least mario 64 is playable

>>6664989
Command touch controls made sense with maneuvering the arwing and dropping bombs. It was retarded though to make everything but the shoot button designated to the touch screen. There are 4 extra buttons on either side of the DS that could be used for stuff like u turns and boost. Zero I'd argue didn't have bad controls at all, just very questionable use of the 2 screens

So wait, do we have a functioning build of early m64 yet?

>>6664991
The plot is why I call it the same but yes it was just 64 with more gimmicks and some other flashy things added. Fuck the dropper sections.

I'm too pleb to go spelunking into this, so all I've done is save the main files and other stuff of interest. I'd like to say thanks to those combing through, and keep up the solid work.

>>6664991
>same plot
>no new planets
>no new characters

>>6664856
Yes because one had dolphin porn

>>6664856
dolphin porn, sheep porn and .bat files to ruin your computer

>>6663069
Having .o files available makes creating a port easier since the .o files actually have relocatable symbols.

Ocarina of Time time. Whittled the Link Animations folder down to stuff that wasn't previously documented. Anybody know how to get these working ingame?

>>6665029
>looking through that f-zero source
>the simplicity of the code
they just really did it like that back then I guess.
>>6665063
Can't you just play the animations on yourself of fake link using debug?

>>6665017
dunno

>>6665067
just checked, and I can see its straightforward. F-Zero always was one of my favorites, so I'm not surprised to see that it's well programmed.
still, I'd have to git gud before adding to the discoveries.

Is there any beta build of Mario 64 yet?

>>6664180
I'm getting somewhere

>>6665079
It wasn't a full repository and no build was in the files, so won't happen with current data

>>6665081
isn't this an LOD?

>>6665086
Im a lil dumb on my terms. Mind tellin me what LOD stands for?

Can someone set me straight on how to use the terms 'prototype' 'alpha' 'beta' when it relates to stages of game design?

>>6665094
Level of Detail. It's a lower poly model for when the camera is panned back and has to render more, and sense the model is smaller, it doesn't need as much detail, so it cuts down to lower the necessary processing power

>>6665096
The prototype is when something is just getting started
The alpha is when the thing is getting somewhere but far away from being done
The beta is when the thing is almost done but need more time before it fully done

>>6665097
Oooh! yeah it is! It's of luigi so im trying to texture it, It's a bit of a pain in the ass tho

>>6665096
The terms are a little nebulous but from a broad standpoint
Prototype - Concept work. Some test maps and basic mechanics may be implemented to show the idea of how the game will work. This is also know as First Playable
Alpha - Feature Complete. All the basic mechanics are implemented, but the game isn't finished being constructed
Beta - The game is essentially finished being made, but still needs to be bug tested

'beta'

>>6665105
Ignore the last 'beta'

>>6665104
some lod's don't have textures.

>>6663182
I just realised how similar those ganons tower rooms are to the beta ones we found. I guess ganons tower really was one of the earliest areas they made and they recycled it/updated it for the final temple

>>6665136
I mean, it is reported that it started out similar to Mario, where the castle acted as the main hub

>>6663513
you can talk about the wii just fine on /vg/, what are you on? Hell you could also do it on /v/ if you want, the real issue is that both on /v/ and /vg/ this kind of general would get pushed out of the board in like 10 minutes. /v/ of course also has the shitposters issue but they are/were here too anyway

Anything new on Zelda 64 or Ura?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl9DCjNqXT0

>>6665147
yeah I just hadnt seen the final ganons tower for a little while and didnt realise it looked so close to the beta versions. those rooms look pretty old actually and even use some of the same old textures