/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6587215
OK, post one

Rise of the Robots

>>6587215
Any JRPG

>>6587414
<insert shiggy quote here>

Virtua Racing on the Genesis. I think it only has like 2 cars and 3 tracks. Total waste of money. Only serves to awe you with the graphics.

>Rez
>No substance
dude what the FUCK

This is the poster game for style over substance.

>>6587215
Very charming, has a ton of soul, awesome soundtrack, memorable locations, unintentionally funny cut scenes, it reeks of the 90s but the actual game play is total ass. I first played it with a dude who was a huge fan of the genesis games but never played the later ones. We couldn't stop laughing throughout the entire thing and all the bugs, the awkward dialogue, etc.

>>6589519
Rez game design fucking sucks compared to Star Fox 64 or Sin & Punishment, you know, actually good 3D shoot'm ups.

>>6589492
made up quote*

>>6589603
literally all sonic games are style over substance

this is a controversial opinion but let me explain: there is so much 'substance' in Legend of Mana that it ultimately becomes meaningless, as if there wasn't any at all. Doesn't help that all fights can be cheesed the same way.

>>6587414
Bitch

>>6589685
That game had no coherent story is just all side quests right ?

>Chrono Trigger
The only reason I like this game is because of its sprite work and comfy music.

>>6589523
Agreed. It's a nice game about exploring a castle set to fantastic music, with some incidental combat that's in it just because. The only reason people like this game is because of the style, not the substance. It is a mood piece.

>>6589701
yes, just little scenes that play out (sometimes connected to one another) amidst an endlessly convoluted crafting/farming/raising system that doesn't really matter much.

>>6587215

Is it possible to actually, objectively measure "style over substance", or it's just another code phrase for "game i don't like"?
I think some games that would actually fit this are the Dave Perry ones, which I actually love, but I admit it's more about the audiovisual experience and the humor/character rather than the gameplay or game design.

>>6587215
I see your Rez and raise you iS:Internal Selection for PS1

Anything by Kojima, especially Snatcher and Policenauts.

>>6592881
Amen

>>6590718
love how this post went completely ignored

>>6590718
You can't objectively measure any artistic quality of a game. Everything is opinion. I'd say something is style over substance if I can't speak to the meaning of the experience, if I got nothing lasting out of it, but was impacted during the experience like a roller coaster. That's probably most video games really, fun in the moment but empty.

>>6589659
still good and enjoyable game

>>6589669
lurk moar newfag reddit retard nigger

>>6589659
ok nintendildo

>>6589705
This is a really stupid take. You're saying that the emphasis on exploration falls under the heading of style rather than substance when the opposite is true. SOTN has both style and substance in spades.

>>6587215
Th Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver.
>>6587370
No. At least jab point and click instead. >>6587414
At least race bait instead. It's a good game.
>>6589523
It betrays traditional castlevania games but is still actually good game.
>>6589685
Now this actually did shit the bed. Sotn did not, but this did.

>>6587215
Super Mario RPG. It's pretty barebones as a game.

>>6593232
Legend of the Dragoon is the superior timed-hits jarpig. It was also directed by the battle engine designer/programmer of SMRPG.

>>6593232
>>6593263
>>6589704
>>6587370
>>jrpg are bad BAAAAD

Stop samefagging please.

>>6593263
Didn't mean to @ you but Dragoon makes my skin crawl so it was probably bait anyway.

Comix Zone
Mortal Kombat
Crazy Taxi

>>6593276
>Dragoon makes my skin crawl
Explain.

>>6593421
The music is bad and then he has to scream double slash over and over and on top of that I always miss the timing thing. Then in the map you have to travel linear.

Link to the past

>>6593272
Why, yes, how could you tell?

>>6593223
No, there's no substance to the gameplay or art of Symphony of the Night. The structured exploration (need mist to pass, etc) is superfluous nonsense, the enemies and bosses are whatever. And overall it's stylistically beautiful but not meaningful, I didn't get anything out of Symphony of the Night, I just had a nice time staring at castle environments and listening to that great music, feeling empowered as I tore through enemies. I'd have a hard time writing 500 words on the meaning of Symphony of the Night, so as a work of art it's all style, and the same goes for its mechanical depth (it has none, it's not a puzzle game or anything like that).

>>6587215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX0sfsi_zxo
This pinball machine, definitely.

Rez
shenmue
NIGHTS
LSD Dream Emulator

Uhh...I don’t know...Offroad Challenge

>>6587215
Your favorite video game

>>6593272
>jrpg are bad
yeah they are

>>6587215
Clay Fighter

>>6595125
agreed

>>6587215
>all style, no substance

>>6598848
>all faggotry, no credibility

>>6598857
Haha. How much did you pay for your Radiant Silvergay CD, S-oyface?

>>6589705
true and thats why i like it. i like the gameplay because it doesn't really get in the way. there is cool stuff gameplay wise but im mostly just in it for the music and the extremely good atmosphere. and i hate cinematic games but damn this game is so good.

>>6598869
120 dollars in 2001.

>>6598848
Like most studios everywhere?

>>6589685
It also probably doesn't help that the "style" is all top-notch, the art, especially the music, fantastic. The game underneath such amazing presentation being inoffensive and adequate only amplifies the gap.

>>6598869
>Haha. How much did you pay for your Radiant Silvergay CD, S-oyface?

>>6598848
Based.