/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6016687
Why are mechs with assault rifles so cool?
The entire bipedal robot thing makes absolutely no military sense but it has a nice aesthetic

>>6016687
>not the PCE or Sharp version

>>6016776
They arne't really cool in the abstract. It's just that the ole Shirow is a very good artist and everyone's simply aping Appleseed (et al) mech designs.

>>6016801
I do know about them and that the Treasure devs were involved.

>>6016776
It makes perfect sense, armored suits of kevlar and tanks are both militarily useful, and piloted robots are just an advance in those 2 fields. Also a humanoid machine is easier to learn and more intuitive for human to control if it's done with "when you move the robot moves" design.

>>6016821
>Trashure devs were involved
Thanks for the heads up, will be sure to avoid this shit now.
Every game I've played of theirs has been horrid, and Mad Stalker is probably no exception.

>>6016687
Oh, ok. *goes and makes modern repros for sale at 100$ a pop then resulting in the original being impossible to afford* happy? CALLING ALL ZOOMERS THIS GAME IS A MUST HAVE. YOU NEED TO OWN THIS. shut the fuck up. do you even think before you type? if you actually like something that you think a lot of people dont talk about why would you want it raped to death? moron.

>>6018553
That's because you need to play Treasure games that weren't on PlayStation.

>>6018583
What kind of pathetic autistic hipster genuinely wants to keep fun games secret from everyone else?

>>6016687
Rival schools
eternal champions
Carnage heart
LSD dream emulator
I could probably keep going but none of you seem to actually be interested
hi im a newfriend

>>6019005
Not that guy, but I think sometimes it is better for something to stay small or mid size, especially either 1) a product from an active company which continues to produce items iterative of that product, or 2) a defunct product no longer made, which has only a small existing supply

Too much demand will make supply hard for me to get, so while admittedly it's selfish desires, it is still a reason that is valid for me. As for the other point, I prefer niche things as they tend to be more tailor-made to their niche. Mass-appeal inevitably leads to lowest common denominator as a focus, and that's how you end up with HD-era AAA games.

>>6019026
>Too much demand will make supply hard for me to get
Download a rom and play retard

>>6018421
I imagine getting knocked back/ down would injure the pilot more, because of the elevated position, than sitting in a tank.
A human sized exoskeleton on the other hand will probably be the future, and remote controlled mecha sized drones etc.

>>6019005
Sometimes, you realize most people don't deserve good things.

>>6016687
Zombie revenge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7VvV6iEjp0

>>6019026
>Too much demand will make supply hard for me to get
There is an infinite supply of roms for OP's game.
>Mass-appeal inevitably leads to lowest common denominator as a focus
Yes, I'm sure this SNES game will totally be retroactively ruined if it becomes too popular. It'll just magically morph into a modern AAA game.

>>6019005
Collectortards with genuine mental illness and a lack of identity. Ask them if theyve done no death runs or anything else indicating that they played the game properly and watch them give excuses, go quiet or change topic outright. That is because they treat video games like teenage girls treat clothes and subcultures, as accessories for their collector identity.

>>6019105
>That is because they treat video games like teenage girls treat clothes and subcultures, as accessories for their collector identity.
While I agree with you that collectors (especially ones that started collecting post-2000) are a stain in video game culture, but so are "hardcore" kids who copy strats from other people and make their whole identity around speedruns, 1ccs, and what have you.
Both ends of the stick are bad.
The best way to enjoy retro games is to have been alive back then, and not fall into either collectortards or copymonkeytards.

>>6019108
Yes you should get 1ccs/no death runs without copying strats, agreed. Do you do actively do that? Or are you a passionless sack o shit who doesnt play the games but rather orbits them talking about side shit like "culture" and hardware while also acting smug towards zoomers who do show genuine interest? If its the latter idk if youre any better than the collectards, at least SOME of them play, and some of them dump roms

>>6019114
Some people just play games, beat them, and move on. Not everyone finds perfecting their play over dozens of hours on the same game they've already beaten to be fun.

>>6019114
>all these assumptions
lmao, what rubbed you wrong, bro?
I've been doing no-damage run on games I like since I was a kid in the 90s, yes.
I never thought it'd be something other people cared about though, I just did it for myself. Nowadays it seems kids won't do any of it if they can't show other people online through streams.

>>6019126
You're saying some people "beat" this HIDDEN GEM that's supposedly too good for people to have in half an hour and then drop it? Legit. It's actually amazing how I came in to shittalk collectors but ended up being reminded that they're not that bad compared to these elitist secondaries
>>6019128
>I've been doing no-damage run on games I like since I was a kid in the 90s, yes.
Are you doing them now? If so you're alrite, no clue why you're whining about people that do the same and better tho or pulling that retarded "being in the 90s was the LEGIT way to play" pathetic boomer shit

>>6019150
>pathetic boomer shit
I see you're a triggered youngling. Explains your irritating personality and frustration.

>>6019164
I'm not that young, I just loathe the pretentious "boomerism" in this shithole board. My ideal would be a situation where these games are appreciated and played in the same way as any other games. Instead of being treated like an irrelevant relic of times long gone that you can't "experience correctly", just so some pathetic old faggots can feel validated and speshul. Zoomers who appreciate these games will always be better than elitist secondaries.

>>6019179
You seem overly sensitive and exaggerated. If you don't like this board for whatever meme reasons, just leave. Nobody forces you to stay, in fact, nobody cares.

>>6019185
Not seeing "wrong" anywhere in there, a passive acknowledgement that everything I've pointed out is spot on and you simply don't like me being frank about it. I'll continue to stay here and occasionally share my thoughts on you pathetic wannabe elitist boomer retards and the degrading state of this board until 6th gen wipes you out. Maybe people who have an interest in playing these games will take note and stay the fuck away.

>>6019197
>admits to being a 6th gen beggar
Not event he guy you're replying to but you're one of the biggest problems of this board.
Hopefully Hiro makes /v2k/ one day so you can finally have your own childhood board and stop tainting this one.
Also, I'm 21, I do have some nostalgia for 6th gen but I'm not anal about the rules.

>>6019197
>Not seeing "wrong" anywhere in there
Let's see.
>pretentious "boomerism" in this shithole board
>pathetic old faggots
you seem irritated, exaggerated and most of all, triggered.
All I did was comment about how kids nowadays won't try to get good at games unless they can show the internet about it through streams. I never commented about any sort of "legit way to play" or anything like that. It's all in your mind, boy.

>>6019197
>until 6th gen wipes you out
lol 6th gen babbies.
Even if 6th gen gets allowed (won't happen), the actual retro generations are still more in number.
Of course, 7th gen babbies would immediately start asking for their own childhood to be included, too.

>>6016687
X68 music is rad
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v_gL4nvoBbw

>>6019218
Still not seeing "wrong" there, just you not liking the tone. Furthermore if it does not apply to you just move on, but if you think this mentality doesn't exist on /vr/ then you are blind. Btw this is what I'm talking about
>>6019108
>The best way to enjoy retro games is to have been alive back then

Also, streaming is a hyper-exaggerated version of the social aspects inherent to gaming, whereas before you'd talk about your achievements with your friends and maybe local community if you're lucky, now you can share that shit with the wider community via streaming. For zoomers this is a natural state of affairs because they grew up with the net and net communities, to them these ARE the arcade spectators and acquaintances. Idk just sounds like a half-baked cope to me

>>6019213
>>6019224
I don't want gen 6 here or anywhere really, it's simply inevitable.
>the actual retro generations are still more in number.
Who cares if nobody here plays them? 6th gen players have more passion and vitality because they are still pretty young and treat the games as something current rather than as a relic. They will supplant you because they enjoy the games rather than using them purely as a badge for their identity, simple as that

>>6019236
>just you not liking the tone
It's not just the tone, evidently you don't like the board, and don't like being around people older than you.. so why do you stay?
No, gen 6 is not gonna get accepted, and even if it does, you won't get rid of the earlier gens and people who discuss them.

>>6019240
>6th gen players have more passion and vitality because they are still pretty young and treat the games as something current rather than as a relic. They will supplant you because they enjoy the games rather than using them purely as a badge for their identity, simple as that
This is some comedy.
Zoomers are soulless drones who have their mind high on instant gratification shit like trophies and likes on social media. They aren't passionate, and if 6th gen gets allowed here, it'll be mostly console warring, not game discussion.

>>6019243
>people older than you
Well the one person that shared his age is a decade younger than me and still gobbles /vr/ dick. /vr/ boomerism is a state of mind that has little to do with age.
>>6019249
>They aren't passionate
They play the games, they get good, they break them down, they discuss them. What do you do? Talk about sick grabs, gatekeep shit and seethe about zoomers getting better than you at your childhood games live on stream. Low energy

Magical Pop'n was an incredibly polished late Super Fami game. Featuring great music, graphics, smooth animations, great combat, and a lot of soul.

It was overshadowed, even in Japan, because it had no ad budget, and it was released late in 1995. The entire focus was on the Saturn, Playstation, the upcoming N64, and 3D games. In America it was never even released. Had the game been released in 1993 and given worldwide release it would have been considered a beloved classic.

And now because of its very limited print run, boxed copies of the game fetch 1,100 USD.

>>6019262
>They play the games
Only if they can use it as a badge for identity. Same as collectors. If they had to play the games on their own, they wouldn't care, because the whole point for zoomers is to use games as accessories.
>they get good
They better do, most of them don't have full time jobs and they copymonkey shit from youtube
>Low energy
Playing video games is rather passive, we're not talking sports.

>>6019262
>Well the one person that shared his age is a decade younger than me and still gobbles /vr/ dick.
If you don't like it leave. You're wasting time here wishing for 6th gen to be included.

I shill it here sometimes but never see it mentioned otherwise. I feel Tempest is sadly too forgotten for being such an amazing game. Super fast paced and hectic it plays a little like a rail shooter bit is more fun than any of them (and I love SH and GF2) I particularly like Tempest X3 for it's crazy visuals and awesome music.

>>6019270
>Only if they can use it as a badge for identity.
Bragging rights have always been part of games and gaming achievements, if anything it was even stronger when all you were competing with was your immediate community and friends without the internet to keep your ego in check. Look at the degenerates at twingalaxies and compare them to the comparatively clean and honest modern communities
>the rest
Spare me the cope, maybe type it out to the 6th gen zoomer invaders and ask them to be sympathetic to your plight

>>6019262
>vr/ boomerism is a state of mind that has little to do with age.

This is truth. I'm in my 40's and a lot of posters younger than me seem to act like cranky old men by comparison.

>>6019285
>Bragging rights have always been part of games and gaming achievements
It's not about the bragging rights, though. It's about the "I am a gamer!" identity.
>twingalaxies
Dunno, I'm not a yank.

>>6019287
I don't see anyone here acting like a "cranky old man", one anon just said "the correct way to play games is to have been alive back then", which was probably meant to trigger zoomers, and it worked.
Other than that, the one acting very cranky here is the zoomer guy who is mad at "boomerism".

>>6019301
Not him but I don't get why anyone cares about people who label themselves gamers.

>>6019312
Because we were talking about using games as identity accessories. Labeling yourself as "gamer" is part of it.

>>6019310
Ohh I don't mean in this thread specifically more the board in general. All the guys who piss and moan about modern gaming and the general state of the world sound like cranky old men to me. I just think it's kinda funny. Also the implication that most older people dislike current gaming which some people here will say is also just surreal to me. I love /vr/ but it does feel like bizarro world in some ways. That's part of the fun though.

>>6019318
I get what it refers to it I just don't see why it's a bother to anyone.

>>6019301
"Gamer identity" is more of a gen x/millennial thing, it's meaningless to zoomers because they're all gamers

>>6019326
>it's meaningless to zoomers because they're all gamers
Nah, as a zoomer, I can guarantee you the "video games are for kids/nerds/virgins" is still present in my generation.

>>6019321
It actually makes more sense for younger people to be pissed at modern games, than older people, since they're the ones who are living through it first-hand (DLC, DRM, and all that stuff that make people rage).
Old people are just more relaxed and if they don't like something, they move on, or play old games.

>>6019328
The irony is it wasn't nearly as much of a thing in my generation as it gets implied these days. Most of the guys I used to play fighters with back in the day were into sports as well as other video games. Heck the guy who first showed me what ROMs are and had a ripper is now a sports writer. They were different from the ones who *only* wanted to talk about video games. I was a fucking D&D nerd and even we found those guys offputting.

The stigma then as I see it is now with my nephews is against weird kids, whatever their interest.

>>6019332
Yeah and see DRM doesn't bug me cause I buy my games and I actively like DLC, especially with some like fighting games.

>>6019342
Yeah back then people just played games as if it was any other kind of game.
The whole "g4m3r" identity thing started in the 2000s, probably the internet was a factor.

>>6019213
>Hopefully Hiro makes /v2k/ one day

Keep on dreaming, the only thing that fag is adding is more ads. I used to be able to browse 4chan at work, but the place is now impossible to use without adblocking.

>>6019326
The whole gamer identity bullshit is just marketing crap for people who aren't actually gamers, or (man)children.

>>6016687
>>6019269
Some other Japanese SNES games that are actually good and don't require a translation patch:

>SDF Macross: Scrambled Valkyrie
Amazing shmup for the SNES with no slowdown. Makes the other shmups look like shit in comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LticFKw1EqA

>King of Demons
The darkest SNES game i have played. Its very nice looking and is fun to play. The only SNES game i know that has the word "Fuck" spray painted on the side of the train at 12:22 in video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY7otVfCGyE

>>6019026
This is a slow board. Cool your jets and stop with this fatalistic thinking. Retro games will NEVER be extremely popular outside of a few major titles.

>>6018583
Don't be such a crusty cuntflap.

>>6019026
Oh, you're a lunatic.

>>6016687
Rise Of The Triad.

>>6019351
You should be adblocking regardless.

>>6019026
Any enthusiast is going to have a modded PSX or some equivalent method they find satisfactory to play the pricier imports on the system unless they're Neo Geo-level ballers. Also, other people enjoying a thing you enjoy does not diminish your own enjoyment of said thing.

>>6019285
That's just >(You) I was always pretty terrible at action games but that never prevented me from enjoying them. I have always been kinda like Arino from Game Center CX, really shit at games but somehow managed to beat a few difficult games like Ninja Gaiden Black.

>>6018583

>>6018583
Easy to counter by just doing the same thing but selling them for $5, I'll definitely sell them faster than you by grossly undercutting your prices.

>>6019114
No real gamer gives 2 fucks about "1cc" or "speedruns". You zoomer dipshits made up those terms, not us. OH MAN I BEAT ZELDA IN 7 MINUTES USING GLITCHES AND MISSING OUT ON 98% OF THE GAME, SO FUN!!!!!!!!!!!! Fucking kill yourself.

>>6022007
Agreed about speedtranning, but 1cc runs are legit. That's what (good) devs intended you to be able to do in arcade games if you were good enough; proof is they would invalidate your score if you used more than 1 coin per run. They also make the games less fun when you credit feed, almost like a form of cheating in a way.

>>6022007
Holy shit, did they? Zoomers are fucking based! They created speedrunning right after coming out of the womb via Quake, they created the idea of beating games without dying/continuing and I bet they even created the concept of playing for score too. How can worthless gen x and millennial boomers ever compete?

>>6022035
No that's all zoomer shit too, nobody cared about score in the arcades. I would know because I played Mega Man as a kid and didn't care about score...they even removed it in the sequels, take that zoomers!

>>6022045
I fucked your mom. How about that? You like that, don't you? You like it

>>6019025
>eternal champions
That's my nigga

>>6022049
Whatever you say zoomer, go back to playing Gradius, Robotron or whatever you zoomers play and leave us humble Ocarina of Time loving boomers alone.

>>6022037
dont be a faggot

Pit Droids. Marketed for kids but definitely a game for all ages. Should've gotten more attention but never did.

>>6022007
Lol, you autistic spaz faggot.
Yeah, kids didn't usually care much for 1cc'ing or stuff as a principle, but people would still show off by doing it.

>>6022045
It's called a challenge, you should try one out some time, one besides the every day challenge of your handicaps that is.
I mean you act as if all speedruns are glitchathons, as if there aren't categories for say, no glitches, certain difficulties, or specific invented challenges.

Already in the 90s we were competing who could do Knee Deep In The Dead the fastest, then who could do it on Ultra-Violence, then who could do it playing Tyson style (only your fists, and to a very limited extent your pistol), then who could actually beat whichever given level on Nightmare!, and that's just Doom, Quake Done Quick was famous before Gen Z existed. You must have grown up with horseblinders.

I love how you act so tough.

>>6022132
You first.

>>6022060