/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5924202

>>5924613
Anything else?

Ys

>>5925529
That one plays pretty differently.

>>5925580
So does the SFC game. They still share the same setting.

>>5925582
I meant similar gameplay.

>>5925415
Best version?

>>5925529
Kawaii uguu~~

landstalker?

>>5926063
good catch

>>5925529
Was it actually any good

>>5925529
Still waiting for translation

>>5926432
decent srpg

>>5926445
Is there a translation attempt being done? Who owns the rights?

>>5926432
It has some technical issues and the SR2 ruleset isn't great but the runs are interesting.

>>5926508
SR is currently licensed by Role & Roll in Japan.
Group SNE is still around, Compile's rights might have transferred to Compile Heart.
There were some translation attempts but they never got beyond mockup screens and buggy monospaced text replacement. Nobody does Mega CD translations either.

>>5926731
That’s a pity.

>>5927208
Were you planning on licensing it? SR in Japan is a bit unfortunate. R&R only recently started to release the 5th edition and now the 6th edition is already released in English.

>>5927287
I was wondering if it was a company with a chance of ever translating it.

>>5926445
theres an effort to translate it ongoing

>>5927359
They didn't even release it for a better suited platform.

>>5927384
Shadowrun was kind of a niche game as it was.

>>5927680
Is that a reason to release it an an old addon nobody in Japan had instead of PS1 or Saturn?

>>5927685
You have to combine the niche game with the niche system to make it cancel out and become mainstream.
I'm sure they had some reason based around money and convenience.

>>5924202
i found this genesis cart for a great deal recently.

any tips for someone new to shadowrun on the genesis?

I did a few runs with the help of a map i found online. now i just bought my brother's bag from the hotel. seems like a cool game so far.

>>5927735
If you're using magic, do not use cyberware. For a samurai or decker, it's better to add cyberware before leveling up that stat, as you can get higher ceilings for those traits.
Cyberspace data stores have information you can sell for a lot of money, but matrix running is a bit tough and tar pits can fuck you out of a lot of money.

>>5927735
>>5927831
>If you're using magic, do not use cyberware.
ACTUALLY(and i've tested this out) Spurs + STR enhancement + COMBAT SENSE SPELL LOCK would make you best melee fighter in the game. Shaman get best of both worlds if they go melee.

Unfortunately the AI is dumb if you're not manually controlling that character. AI controlled mage or shaman will ALWAYS use spells even if you get them spurs or a gun.

>>5928078
Fair enough. I was thinking more in terms of pure magic attack.

>>5927735
decker

>>5927735
>>5927831
Pretty sure when tar pits activate you can immediately pause and swap out the affected program with a cheaper one it will instead destroy that one. I can't remember if you can just uninstall the program to save it as well, haven't played the game in a few years.

>>5927735
Make sure you deal lethal damage to the last boss. If you knock him out instead of killing him, the game won't progress and you get stuck.

>>5928739
>>5928706
>>5928636
>>5928306
>>5928078
>>5927831
thanks, gents. glad i check this thread again. i've already made a samurai. i figured a fighter type character is easier to manage as with most rpgs as i learn the game's mechanics.

>>5929229
Sounds good, have fun.

I was seriously impressed by this game when I played it. A lot of freedom and customisation for an old RPG.

>>5929270
>>5929263
let me ask you this.

with baldur's gate...you can have any kind of party, you just have to strategize accordingly. is this game similar? or is going certain routes or spreading your stats too much fuck you over?

>>5929364
You will need a party that is capable of fighting decently well. However, you can do decently well with a number of party compositions.

>>5926047
Ys book 1 and 2. Avoid the steam release

>>5927735
Heavy Pistol

>>5929642
What’s up with the Steam version?

>>5929780
It's not awful, but it's doesn't use the original spritework, and looks cheap. The soundtrack was also remade for better or for worse.

>>5929924
Did it let you choose which artwork and soundtrack to use?

>>5929642
i’ll keep that in mind

>>5929364
>>5929427
Ehh, you can beat Shadowrun Genesis with almost any party composition I think. It's just that some characters are agreed to be a bit weaker, like that Rat Shaman whose name I've forgotten.

>>5929924
I'll be honest: I honestly think the spritework and OST in the Steam version of Ys I and II are fine. As someone who finished those games 100% on steam.

>>5930420
The rat shaman is often considered the weakest party member.

>>5929364
Play however you like, but for the endgame you will be fighting a variety of enemies especially well-armored ones. Magic and Melee damage and penetrate the armor the best, though they're some enemies who seem to be totally immune to magic. Shotguns are best overall, but they make a lot of noise(bad for corporate missons where you're suppose to avoid raising the alarm), and the cops consider them most of them illegal.

Hellhounds are easy to kill but have a nasty flame breath and usually attack in groups, so it's best to have someone skilled in SMGs to kill them fast before they burn you.

>>5930714
The human mage is pretty crappy too.

>>5930764
>Magic and Melee damage CAN penetrate armor the best...

>>5930768
That’s a fair point. He tends to be pretty weak.

>>5924202
Shadowrun Returns for actual gameplay.

For similar type of story or experience, try Snatcher or Rise of the Dragon. Also, Deus Ex

>>5930992
How is Rise of the Dragon?

>>5931025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TuiEOm1FxQ

>>5931065
Looks interesting, thanks.

>>5924202
You mean, cyberpunk mixed with magic for setting or what? If you talk about setting alone, then Alpha Storm and Cybermage.

>>5930992
>For similar type of story or experience, try Snatcher or Rise of the Dragon. Also, Deus Ex
Also, >>5931364 and DreamWeb.

>>5930992
>Shadowrun Returns for actual gameplay.
Fuck you.

it's a mobile game for PC.
gameplay is absolute shit

Illusion City.

I understand that Shadowrun Returns and its sequels are more true to their origin as tabletop games, but I do miss the simple arcade-y fun of the genesis game.
>>5930714
>>5930768
I like the party companions in this game. The portrait art and writing conveys a lot of personality and charm. I remember using that Rat Shaman even though he was weak just because I felt bad for him.

>>5931364
Similar gameplay. The top-down action RPG system.

>>5931674
i once did a play through only using shamans, brought him along
ricky wasn’t useless, but certainly not great

>>5924202
There's a windows RPG game that is similar but with only Matrix missions. It's more in depth and follows game rules but doesn't have a story.
http://www.roguebasin.com/index.php?title=Decker

>>5931786
Blood Omen
SNES Zelda

>>5931410
Looks interesting, but my japanese is far too weak.
>>5932145
Good stuff.

>>5932145
>blood omen
shit, i should have thought of that

>>5931943
That looks quite interesting, thanks.

>>5930768
is he?

>>5924202

>>5933981
starts with really basic stats and skills much like you MC (if)shaman. only has the weakest mana bolt spell and invisibility spell, i think?

If you guys haven't, read the shadowrun novels. There are free pdfs out there. Most are very interesting, a few suck and a few are really good 40 or so novels written by several authors so it makes sense some are a bit meh. Totally worth reading for the setting and imagining the world more thoroughly.

>>5929270
As a teenager this was my friend and I's grand theft auto before it was a thing. Walking the mean streets gunning down the dregs.

>>5929270
>>5934402
you ever find anything similar?

crw

>>5934402
I thought it was cool how you could buy attachments for your guns like suppressors and laser sights, I had never seen that before in a game

>>5931943
God, I spent hours upon hours on Decker.
There's also the BBS game Netrunner, which I'm pretty sure Decker aped most of its gameplay style from.

>>5934558
??

>>5934389
>shadowrun novels.
you mean read neuromancer.

>>5924613
ZOING

>>5931674
>Shadowrun Returns and its sequels are more true to their origin as tabletop games,
I only played the first one, but I didn't feel this way. I mean sure, when it came to world building it was great as a Shadowrun story, but the gameplay was extremely railroaded. Shadowrunning isn't about that.

>>5935847
Neuromancer is very good, but it isn't Shadowrun. Shadowrun is half cyberpunk, half magic, with the metaplot being EXTREMELY focused on the magic side of things. I know a lot of the fanbase tends to downplay that, but with a Gibson novel you're only getting half of Shadowrun.

>>5935889
Neuromancer is still a good book to read for anyone interested in cyberpunk.

>>5935847
"Into the Shadows"

>>5935889
You don't necessarily have to focus a story on magic in shadowrun, although it tends to make a lot of sense to do so.

>>5934235
Can you just start with this one? Should I play the ones before it first?

>>5937093
I never finished Phantasy Star IV (only played like 10 hours or so) but I think it's a 50-50 on your question. The story is decent enough as a standalone (and is set many years apart from the previous Phantasy Stars), but there are callbacks and references to the old games that you'd miss if you skipped PS I-III. While you could (and many anons have) enjoyed PSIV on its own, ultimately it's better if you played in order.

>>5937204
I see. I'll keep that in mind.

>>5936873
you kinda do

>>5937093
at least try the earlier ones

>>5934235
based

>>5937204
>>5938367
how do PS1/2/3 hold up?

>>5938643
good

>>5938643
1 was ahead of its time albeit grindy as hell. But there's a SEGA AGES release for Switch that supposedly is really good and has an option for boosted XP to reduce grind. 2 and 4 are considered fan favourites, and these two are the common answers to "What's your favourite classic Phantasy Star?". 3 is kind of a black sheep and is rarely people's favourite but is still decent.

>>5940341
Interesting. I’ll check them out.

>>5927735
You can buy the best gun in the game ten minutes in.

>>5942542
that's pretty good
you got any more "dog controls your destiny" edits?

>really wanna play Shadowrun SNES again

>remember that bullshit as fuck part called "the arena"
>remember the timebomb shit
>remember the dragon area
>remember the fact i can only get the strongest team member during the final area
ugh

>>5924202
I don't know but this thread convinced me to play it. For that matter, what games are similar to SNES Shadowrun? Like with the dialogue keyword type of progression mixed in with combat and exploration.

>>5944825
Ultima 4