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>>5822090
That's the game. If you don't like that sort of design it's on you bruh

It's incredibly obvious padding. So obvious knowing Rare they probably thought it was funny.

>>5822090
Probably, yes. Trash tier game, not even good enough for meme tier.

>>5822109
>it's on you bruh
Possibly the dumbest post I've ever seen on /vr/

>>5822129
>I'm entitled to games being designed in a way I find appealing
>Loud zooming intensifies

>>5822090
Are you on a fucking clock to finish the game? Is someone holding a gun to your head and forcing you to play? Do you have ADHD?
When I read shit like the OP, I can only imagine some 18 year old zoomer from the generation with least amount of attention span talking shit about something he could never comprehend.

>>5822109
I think the problem is less the design being present and more it sucking, collect-a-thons were popular and beloved at the time, and while DK64 had and still has it's fans, it's absolutely not as beloved as the Banjo games for one reason and one reason only, Rare decided to add more hours of playtime through padding, thanks to various items that can only be collected by one single Kong requiring you to replay the levels with 5 characters or sometimes going back with new abilities and walking quite a bit just to get something like a colored banana.

Also, Rare's insistence on you having to collect a lot of stuff to proceed, which was a common design choice of theirs, true, but their games typically only had you controlling one character, not 5 with no way to instantly change characters in the middle of a level.

>>5822090
>>5822129
You are literally a psychopath. Just because you lost the other thread when you tried to shit on DK64 and lots of people said they liked it, you decide to come back a few days later to try to enforce your idiot views.

Plenty of games involve going back and it can be fun to see the level in new lights with other characters. Yes some people have a criticism with the backtracking in this game. No it's not "the most disrespectful gimmick" you fucking douche.

>>5822090
The game feels rushed in general. If you only needed to switch once or twice an area, like the split pads in Banjo Tooie, it wouldn't be nearly as bad.

>>5822094
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgECQdmvcw

>>5822112
I'm willing to bet that RARE had a bet to see just how much collectables and backtracking they could stuff into one game, which was what led to DK64.

>>5822146
Some people have shit to do like jobs and social/family activities and play games in between those things. In those cases it can be annoying to have such ridiculous time-wasting mechanics and needless repetition. Even when I was a kid (I was 8 or 9 when the game came out and got it on release) this game ended up wearing on me and I never bothered finishing it.

They expected you to be more shit at the game, possibly wandering around like a kid would and switching characters while exploring for fun.

>>5822152
I don't care if people like it, and I never called anything a disrespectful gimmick; I've never even played DK64. I was pointing out that either your or another anon's post was maybe the dumbest thing I've read on here.
>If you don't like that sort of design it's on you bruh
and that was followed up by some retarded irrelevant nonsense about zoomerism and entitlement directed at someone in his 30s. Dumb.

>>5822152
>You are literally a psychopath
holy shit DK defenders are insane.
>Nobody is allowed to dislike my favorite game!!! You belong in prison if you don't like my favorite game!!!
grow up

>>5822353
Yeah exactly. Knowing those lads they were having a right laugh.

>>5822372
No shit. As a kid it took me years to finish DK64 with 101%, that didnt stop me from enjoying it, I just took it slow since I had a lot of free time. I have never played it again ever since, because I know how much time it demands. Anyways, youre forgetting an important factor that the game is mostly aimed at kids, so its not having time to play or not wasnt really a problem.

>>5822440
so having time to play or not*

>>5822389
It was another anon, but I don't see why you think it's the dumbest post ever. You seem to misremember the post, here's it entirely:
>That's the game. If you don't like that sort of design it's on you bruh
Now is it clumsily worded? Sure. It's obviously not the person's fault if they don't like a game, it can't be taken that literally. It's called getting your meaning across and moving on with your day. It's obvious his point is that if someone doesn't like a game it may just be due to their own tastes and not something everyone can agree on. Not dumb at all, and he said nothing about zoomerism.

>>5822090
>>5822148
Going back to change characters never bugged me that much.
People always go "boo hoo you need to replay the same level 5 times!" but that's not how the game actually works. You don't do the same exact challenges over and over with each kong. It also makes it fun to go back to old levels with new kongs you've unlocked in order to see what else you can find in there.

>>5822504
We're all just talking about our own tastes, even the tards who tack "objectively" onto their opinions. That's what video game forums are. And that's why the guy's post is so dumb.
>this game's shit (in my opinion obviously implied)
>that's just the game. if you don't like it that's on you bruh
>k
Zoomerism was a follow-up post.

>>5822152
>You are literally a psychopath.
Not sure if ESL or asshole

Eh, I used to think that, but the DK64 hate is hugely disproportioned. I played this game to completion a few years back and it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it'd be. Then again, I came from playing a lot of 6th/7th gen games with a LOT of padding at the time (GTA games, etc), so DK64 felt almost arcade compared to those.

>>5822152
>getting this mad over retro 3d monkey jumping game

>>5822596
the same could be applied to OP, who went his way out to make a thread about a game he allegedly doesn't like.

>>5822504
If anyone dislikes anything at all ever the fault lies with them personally.
>>5822090
The most disrespectful gimmick from older games lies in their ads. They were really sexist and demeaning.
>>5822152
Now come on he likely doesn't have psycho pathology. He's just a silly man.
>>5822378
Not that they 'expected you to be shit' they wanted you to explore their lovely crafted 3d worlds and possibly catch something new each time.
>>5822353
You say that like it's a bad thing. Metroid has backtracking in similar constraints and it gets universally applauded.
>>5822372
It's not ridiculous, it's the game, explore big worlds with five kongs, collect cool stuff.

>>5822152
>You are literally a psychopath.
Psychopaths have brain problems making them anti-autists who don't feel much of anything from negative feedback or the consequences of bad decisions, which in turn makes them abnormally impulsive, reckless, and lacking in a conscience.
People of that sort are out committing robberies or being politicians, not sitting by a computer engaging in back and forth internet quibbles over Donkey Kong 64. Not sure why I had to explain this to you.

>>5823012
In Lord Christ Jesus's case his psychopathy allowed him to endure torment and dish out compassion and understanding. Contrary to mainstream belief it's not always a negative trait.

>>5822090
The fakeout ending in Ghosts N Goblins is probably the biggest "FUCK YOU" to the player I've ever seen.

DK64 is SOUL the game

>>5822389
>trying to shit on a game that you admit you've never even played
you're fucking retarded lmfao don't post again

why do people praise banjo tooie for being even more of the same inexcusable backtracking dk64 had

like i get the idea of an interconnected world where doing tasks in one world affects the other to a degree is cool
but the entire game is just roadblocks, none of what they did to pad the game out is interesting
every jiggy is a fucking chore

its a shame because a couple of the world ideas are great, witchyworld and... well just witchyworld
that should've been the hub world desu

>>5825801
Because Metroidvania is fun, because taking what makes it fun into giant 3d worlds is cool. Banjo-Tooie is awesome because getting all ten jiggies in each world is an accomplishment you have to go out of your way to achieve.

>>5822094
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2lOIB1b6eg