/vr/ - Retro Games

Fuck every aspect of Dragon Quest 2. I read it was so bad that one of the playtesters actually collapsed and had to go to the emergency room.

Dragon Quest 2 is one of my favorite RPG experiences. I drew a complete map of the world, had a notebook where I wrote down everything that seemed like a clue and explored the shit out of it. It felt like unraveling a puzzle. Very few JRPGs have given me this feeling.

>>5736317
You sound like you didn't have many friends.

>>5736317
It's frightening to think that people like this exist in the world.

>>5736325
>>5736332
Based zoomers.
>>5736317
Only problem i had with Qragon Quest II was the Sun Crest, i had to search it online, to be honest whenever i replay the game i use maps for the Lighthouse and the Cave to Rhone because they are way to big.

>>5736251
I wouldn't have minded this level of obscure easter-egg hunting on some optional content, but when you can't advance the story because the quest item you need is hidden half a world away with just a vague clue it ruins the pacing and my enjoyment.

Case in point, DQ2. Was having a good time until I needed the ship, and then painstakingly having to search the world map for where I needed to go next for hours until I gave up and consulted a guide.

>>5736251
Main quest items should always be pretty straightforward. Nothing wrong with hidden optional gear or armor, as long as its not permanently missable.

>>5736251
Super Hydlide hidden.

>>5736251
1/128 or .78% chance to steal off enemy.
(Fuck you too earthbound I didn't want the Gaia laser anyway...)

>>5736251
1/128 or .78% drop chance off enemy.
( I didn't want the Gaia laser, gutsy bat, goddess ribbon star pendent magic frying pan or the king's sword anyway.)

>>5736898
Fuck you FF9
>Finally makes it so every boss has something nice to steal
>All takes over an hour to steal depending on your luck

>>5736447
Hydlide II is worse than anything in Super Hydlide. Even Japan doesn't like Hydlide II.

The crests aren't that bad. You have the Echoing Flute to detect them.
>>5736363
This shit though. The ocean in DQ2 is way too big and empty. It took me an eternity to find that stupid island town in the middle of nowhere.

I really liked how DQ4 handled it
>when you see it

>>5736918
By DQ4 they pretty much knew what people wanted. Things like stupidly hidden items and dungeons that were just giant maze that lead mostly to nowhere was out of fashion. People say DQ3 is one of the best in the series but personally DQ4 NES is pretty much RPG perfection. Only real problem I have is the lack of a world map which even FF1 NES had it.

>>5736251
Finding dumb shit in the middle of the ocean X5: The Game

http://www.realmofdarkness.net/dq/img/nes/dw2/maps/overworld-2.png

>>5736325
>>5736332
what about it is "frightening"? Drawing maps?

>>5736904
On a missable enemy as well. If you grind for the sword you are overpowered for the rest of the game, unless you scan everytime then run, which takes even longer. Also Parasite Eve's junk grind. >>5736332
You obviously never played games like Phantasy Star, at least without constantly consulting a guide. You have no chance beating the game or finding the good shit unless you draw maps and write down all the random clues the people tell you. There are hidden doors you are fucked for finding unless you seriously consider some vague hint a guy gives you, and little chance beating Medusa without the shield from some other dungeon.

>>5736904
>tfw I got all the 1/128 weapons and at least one of every different pendants

>>5736317
Actually, DQ3 does the same thing.

>>5736363
So you were enjoying the game when it was linear and got bored once you actually had to think?

>>5736949
DQ4 is inferior almost in every aspect to DQ3. Is nice that it included more story and characters in spite of actual exploration. But that makes it feel less of a game.

>>5737105
>>5737110
I got the king's sword pretty quick but this broken antenna is not coming so easily my.whole party is like lower 70s now. Not sure if it's worth it at this point.

>>5737128
I just enjoy the story part. But I'm also someone that feel DQ3 boat part goes on a bit longer than I wish it did.

>>5736251
Well, I like to hide my penis in your mom's butthole. Does that count? Or does it only count if I call my penis the "stick of destiny"

Go play The Lost Scepter quest in Sorcerian. It's the "tutorial" quest for the game so it's totally gonna be easy, I'll just sit here and wait while you finish.

>>5736325
>>5736332
>come to a board for old games
>criticize people for how they played old games the way many people did before the internet was available
Go back to /v/.

>>5736949
DQIV had a map on the NES/Famicom version.

>>5736949
>dungeons that were just giant maze that lead mostly to nowhere
the trick is having little treasures and rare monsters etc. hidden in every corner of your dungeon, so that even when you reach a dead end it doesn't feel like a waste of time.

>>5736381
>as long as its not permanently missable.

Permanently missable items add a level of realism to a game that you can't achieve any other way. Complaining about permanently missable items is zoomer-tier.

In that era and even the 16 bit era it was always a thing to explore the boundaries of any town or building looking for secrets. If you reach the left or right edge of map and ot exits town, there is no secret but when you can take even one step past the wall without zoning that mean you're explore further. As kids we tested everything, no different than random Bush burning in zelda.

Pic related is destiny of an emperor. You always test the boundaries in that era. I believe in this game the reward was one free XP level up, and if you used it late game you could even exceed the level cap.