/vr/ - Retro Games

Reminder to always fall for the pvmeme.

Does this Samsung SMC-142P look decent?

>>5679104
Here's the back, it's $35

>>5679104
>>5679108
hard pass. that's a surveillance monitor and is probably worn as hell with burn in. you'd just end up needing to toss it and it'd be a waste of money.

>>5679128
Thanks for the heads up, the cheapest RGB monitor here is $140

Thoughts on mitsubishi CRTs?

Can anyone identify this TV? That model number pulls up nothing

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-tvs/city-of-toronto/toshiba-crt-hd-36fxh71/1442110658?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

>>5679239
diamondtron or bust

>>5678828
I picked up a Sony Trinitron KV-27FS120 for $10 in great shape. It has some geometry problems, and while I accessed the service menu and messed around I'm not confident enough to save changes. Anyone have a good guide for at least getting the picture straight?

>>5679316
Just write down / record all the stock settings. If you find the service manual or basically any sony service manual there will be a picture explaining the settings. Someone will probably post it.

>>5679291
they fudged the model number, that's not how toshibas model scheme goes at all. it's a 36hfx71.

>>5679379
Thanks man

>>5679003

>>5679383
np. that's an early hd model from 2001 btw. it doesn't even have hdmi or dvi so i'd pass on it if i were you. what are you wanting out of a crt, something for sd consoles like the sega snes machine?

>>5679406
For my N64, Xbox, and Wii mostly
I just wanted something large with component inputs for the Xbox and Wii; my older Trinitron only has composite

>>5679412
you should avoid an hd crt for sure. you want a standard definition set for those consoles.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-tvs/city-of-toronto/free-sony-trinitron-tv-stand/1441717499?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

maybe this if it's still available? looks like a fs13 or fs16. i had a 36" one of these a long time ago and it was great once i dialed it in. it has component and everything else.

>>5679428
Thanks I'll check it out, won't have to drive to Toronto either

>>5679108

I saw your post in the last thread too, it's a pass for me not only because it's likely on its last legs after being used for years, but it also has no RGB inputs. If you don't care about RGB you could look at Panasonic and JVC monitors, they usually at least have S-Video.

>>5679239
>>5679293
Good even pre-Diamondtron, they were one of the big boys who competed mostly on the high end and were in the nuclear arms race for largest tubes.

>>5679406
>it doesn't even have hdmi or dvi so i'd pass on it if i were you.
Toshiba introduced DVI on the 2003 models along with 720p compatibility, but that's also when they started scaling everything instead of maintaining distinct multiscan modes for 480p and 1080i. I would much rather have a 71 or 72 than a 73 for 6th gen, if not for the geometry problems (the reason I got rid of both of my HFX72s). The "X" also indicates it has a sub and sounds great, along with not being available at Costco or a non-boutique electronics shop, so the original owner probably paid $2000+ on it and hopefully would have taken appropriate care of it.

>>5679412
You want an SDTV for N64 but if you're ok with the geometry issues you get with a flat CRT, an HFX71 would be great for both Xbox (480p and 1080i) and Wii (480p). Both of those systems use component cables for progressive and HD; the DVI issue only becomes relevant for Blu-Ray, or for consoles after Wii U, PS3, and Xbox 360, which can all still use component cables.

If I play games like RPGs which have a static menu on the screen at all times am I going to get noticeable burn-in/image retention?

>>5679741
How well does HDMI to DVI work with these TVs?

>>5679741
>Toshiba introduced DVI on the 2003 models along with 720p compatibility, but that's also when they started scaling everything instead of maintaining distinct multiscan modes for 480p and 1080i. I would much rather have a 71 or 72 than a 73 for 6th gen, if not for the geometry problems (the reason I got rid of both of my HFX72s). The "X" also indicates it has a sub and sounds great, along with not being available at Costco or a non-boutique electronics shop, so the original owner probably paid $2000+ on it and hopefully would have taken appropriate care of it.

thanks for the info. it's kind of hard to come across this stuff. do you know this from first hand experience? it'd be nice to have this sort of stuff written down somewhere.

>>5680015
Avsforum has a whole archive of unironic boomer CRT reviews from the early 2000s to present

>>5680045
thanks. i'll check it out.

>>5679894
No, not unless you're leaving the TV on the same screen at maximum contrast for months at a time.

>>5679898
>HDMI to DVI
If that's really what you mean, and you're talking about CRT HDTVs with DVI inputs, there's nothing special about them that would prevent that from working. You only want to make sure the DVI port is HDCP compliant (and on a TV it's almost sure to be).

>>5680015
Yeah, I wasn't the one who paid for my family's Toshibas back then but I was the one who chose them after checking out every manufacturer's models in person and doing a lot of online research, including at....

>>5680045
.....AVS, an old favorite hangout.

Bros, it's Friday night and not one crt picture!

French NES outputting RGB Scart. Can't tell if it looks good or if I should get an AV model

Also, fuck, this game is busting my balls hard, I thought it was supposed to be easy

>>5680180
Some Zelda I took earlier, notice the fucked up HUD

>>5680180
Anon, this is fucking great. People long for shades this good, you got the real thing.

>>5680180
French NES is just PAL NES with basic composite to RGB transcoder inside

I got a Samsung TX-R2735X for free at a garage sale a few weeks back, and finally got around to trying it out last weekend. I'm pretty impressed with it. I had an old JVC that was starting to go I think cause no matter what the picture would always be too dark, so it made any games ps2 era and up hard to play. Component PS2 looks so fucking great on this thing.

>>5680189
If you don't like period correct displays, just emulate desu. Geometry is a rabbit hole not worth going down. Play your games man.

>>5680189
Looks fine to me

>>5679003
>>5679398
Everytime.

>>5680237
Could you post some gameplay screens of fallout

>>5680237
i recently bought flatron 795ft+ and i'm not satisfied, is the 9xx series better in terms of image quality?

Am I a pleb or is THE best way to play games on a crappy consumer-grade CRT using a coaxial connection? Maybe it's just because it's how I played games as a kid, but something about the snowy look coupled with the beauty of the imperfect everyday CRT is just so charming to me.

>>5681740
>>5681740
Do what you feel, if that's how you like it looking like, than let it looking like that, like duh.

>>5681686
idk lol, i don't have one. i think the 915ft+ looks great though, it's quite sharp at high resolutions and my less worn one is still plenty bright. it also tops out at 640x480 200hz unlike most monitors which do 160hz max. geometry/linearity is good with lots of adjustments to make, it's only when doing 16:9 vertical compression i get any real issues with it. oh and the buttons are awesome. what's wrong with you 795ft+? pics?
>>5681064
maybe later. have some mortal kumbat in the meantime.

Hey guys, should i fall for the BVM meme? I could buy pic related, a 14" BVM, which the seller get from a tv studio. Is this any good for 55 bucks? Anything else i should ask the seller?

>>5682156
yes, buy it
if you won't like it sell it on ebay for 10 times more

>>5682156
Pick it up. Too good to pass on it.
And if you don't like it then do what >>5682183 said.

>>5682183
>>5682389
The dude has 6 of them, and I don't really want to deal with eBay, I'm just afraid it will be unusable in 2 months.
Thanks for the feedback anyway

>>5682417
Understandable.
There's always the chance that he fiddled with it and changed parts.
I took my chances when I got mine cause the price was too good to be true and I was willing to lose 60€.
It still works, a year later.

>>5679739
There's a lot of CCTVs but I did find this $58 Trinitron SSM-14L1

>>5682417
Buy it retard
Im against paying for shit and I would buy it in an instant

>>5682417
>afraid it will be unusable in 2 months.
this is the mind of a zoomer, ladies and gentlemen
raised in a world where things are no longer built to last for 30+ years

>>5681064

People often toss CRTs as soon as they get a scratch on them, thinking it's totally hopeless to restore them.
Despite this, I've undertaken the project of restoring a scratched Samsung Syncmaster 900IFT. This thing has some of the best colors I've ever seen on any monitor (including modern flat-panel technologies), 1600x1200 at 86Hz, and both VGA and 5-BNC inputs, so I've decided it's worth saving. When I got it, it had a damaged anti-glare coating and had spots where the brightness was significantly greater than the rest of the image. I had to use an abrasive glass cleaner to remove it, which did a good job, but I rubbed for too long in two places and created enough micro scratches to cause a moire effect. I've done my research, and to finally restore this thing to its former glory, I will be polishing it with a rotary buffer (thanks to a friend who works on cars, who will be giving me a hand with that) and a cerium oxide paste. I'm about to go to the hardware store and buy some lumber so I can build a harness-type thing to hold the monitor steady while I'm polishing it, and I'll probably get around to the actual polishing next weekend. If all goes well, I plan to make this monitor into a daily driver for years to come. Wish me luck, anons.

>>5681064
>>5682680

>>5682681
I was able to get one of the scratches to show up by playing with my camera settings. They're not normally this visible, but the moire effect is noticeable enough to be irritating, especially on white backgrounds.

>>5682681
>>5682687
Are you sure the anti-glare coating isn't just a sheet of plastic bonded to the display, like on late Trinitrons and DiamondTrons? Removing such a layer on those tubes is relatively easy.
I have a 32" 16:9 Panasonic Quintrix with a scratched anti-glare layer and I think it's also the plastic film type. I'll have to get a couple of people to help me remove it, though. Great TV for watching LaserDiscs.

>>5680297
why is the guy on the upper right pissing

>>5682708
Did you miss the part where I said that I already removed the antiglare coating with an abrasive cleanser? Yes, I'm 100% sure, especially since I was able to rub at the stuff with my fingernail (around the areas that there were already spots) and see flakes of it come off.

>>5682882
Sorry if that sounds a bit harsh, it didn't sound that bad in my head, oops

>>5682681
you might end up making things worse
but it'll be a good experiment, let us know how it goes

>tfw cant move around my house anymore
>started storing CRTs at my gfs

I can say CRT saved my relationship countless times. Always been afraid to dump her for fear she would smash them.

how to browse 4chan on a crt? do i just connect an hdmi/usb to scart converter and control with one of those handheld keyboards?

>>5683653
you could just use wii or ps3, or use PC CRT via vga(you probably need adapter/converter if you graphics card dont do vga)

>>5682541

Have you looked at local listings for consumer TVs? There's rarely any good deals on CRTs on eBay because everybody's looking to make a quick buck off of retro enthusiasts. With local listings people are just looking to throw out their old crap that's taking up space.

>>5683475
How many of the fucking things do you need?

>>5682680
Truly nice.
Have been playing Fallout on and off for a few weeks now on an IPS panel(Eizo) and a CRT(HP).

>>5683771
I cant resist when theyre free or practically free.

>>5680237
>>5682680
>>5682682

my man

>>5679316
I got the same screen and the button combo (power off, display, 5, volume up, power on) hasn't worked, regardless of timing.

>>5682882
>I was able to rub at the stuff with my fingernail (around the areas that there were already spots) and see flakes of it come off
I've had monitors (With DiamondTron tubes mostly, though it also happened to some random Samsung with a flat shadow mask tube) that also had that kind of coating, but applied on top of the plastic sheet. I once tried to rub it off thinking it was just the coating on one of the monitors since it was also flaking off (I think it was a LaCie ElectronBlue) and then discovered it also had the plastic sheet.
>>5682916
No problem, this is 4chan(nel) after all.