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5265957 No.5265957 [Reply] [Original]

Is the wii a good emulation machine? I heard it can basically emulate a shit ton of system pretty well.

>> No.5265961

>>5265957
Yes. It's notable because it can do 240p as well.

>> No.5265962

Just use a computer, ya dingas.

Wiis are for homosexual degenerates and womyn.

>> No.5265968

>>5265957
It’s a pretty solid emulation machine. Of course a PC is better. An xbone is currently the best option if you have one. They can be had for around $100 used and support everything up to DC/PSP/PS1. There’s a Saturn core in the works for it that I’m sure will run fine too. You get the bonus of playing Xbox games on it which is nice. Besides those two options the Wii is nice for its 240p output and having tons of controller options.

>> No.5265986

it's good, especially if you're a crt enthusiast because it can output 240p and component cables for wii are dirt cheap. So if you want best quality in terms of video for emualtion it's hard to beat.
If you're not using a crt there's no reason to use a wii for emulation rather than a computer

>> No.5265989

No one mentioned, but it does 240p

>> No.5265992

>>5265957
The n64 virtual machine is better than most emulators.

The wii is the best way to play cube games since the component cables are cheap and you can run them from the usb stick so you wont wear your discs. I still play melee on the wii from time to time

>> No.5265995

>>5265968
>>5265962
You morons are missing the appeal. The Wii is the last and most powerful console to display in 240p. It's ideal for CRTs.

>> No.5266003

>>5265995
That was one of the things I pointed out about the Wii? It doesn’t particularly matter honestly. Your CRT will distort the picture to fit regardless of the output resolution.

>> No.5266009

>>5266003
>It doesn’t particularly matter honestly. Your CRT will distort the picture to fit regardless of the output resolution.
If you use anything newer than a Wii, it's going to display everything at 480i (if it even supports it). You won't get scanlines.

>> No.5266017

>>5265957
if you have a CRT that supports component it's definitely the best console for emulation

>> No.5266024

>>5266017
good thing i have a tv that supports crt

>> No.5266027

>>5266024
lol wut

>> No.5266035

>>5266009
A crt is always going to have scanlines. The grill doesn’t morph to a different shape with resolution. You can’t seriously argue that a lower resolution is better in some way

>> No.5266038

>>5266024
Since we're talking about things we know nothing about, you lads wanna etch some scrimshaw later?

>> No.5266039

>>5266024
Cool. You must have also injected several marijuanas before posting.

>> No.5266047

>>5266035
480i can look like a jittery mess. Load up an emulator on a wii and switch between the modes. 240p is obviously better.

>> No.5266048

>>5266035
No. apeture grill/shadow mask is not what people are referring to when talking about scanlines dummy. You will not see scanlines on 480i content on a CRT if sitting at regular viewing distance. You will see juttery garbage.

>> No.5266054

>>5265957
The Wii is great to keep in the living room
>normie friends and bitches love it
>plays Gamecube .iso's from usb
>plays DVDs
>emulates PC Engine, NES/SNES, Gameboy/GBA, SMS/Genesis/Gamegear, and some eurotrash 8bit PC games
If (god forbid) you have a bitch that hates vidya, she'll fall in love with the Wii 9/10. It's a essential part of the arsenal.

>> No.5266076

>>5265957
games look better on wii but xbox has better interface/less controller hassles.

>> No.5266654

>>5266047
>>5266048
Of course interlaced is worse you jackwagons. I’m talking comparing progressive to progressive. The xbone outputs 480p and many other devices do as well.

>> No.5266758

>>5266654
99% of consumer CRTs don't support 480p YOU asswagon.

>> No.5266802

>>5265957
I cant beleive no one has mentioned that it outputs 240p yet.

Wiis pretty gud. Just get a good controller for it. Dont try to use the wiimote. It will fuck your thumbs sideways.

>> No.5266828

>>5266758
It’s not my fault you’re buying trash ass TVs and monitors

>> No.5266843
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5266843

>>5266758
>sauce: anon's ass
Literally NTSC is defined by 525 lines.

>> No.5266848

I don't get the Wii hate meme.

>serviceable emulation thru 4th gen and 5th gen handhelds
>muddling a bit with priiloader etc to skip system menu will let you run entirely on a wavebird GC controller or USB HID
>entire GC/Wii library to boot

I've knocked together four setups for family/roommates over the years. Nice, user friendly solution for normies, and perfectly satisfactory for /vr/ chinz.

As an aside, the fact that the homebrew guides now use nothing but a DNS entry on the wifi settings just tickles me

>> No.5266859

>>5266828
>playing pre 6th gen vidya on some HD crt from 2005
Might as well use a flatscreen at that point.

>> No.5266863

>>5266848
>muddling a bit with priiloader etc to skip system menu will let you run entirely on a wavebird GC

Teach me senpai. I have to fiddle with the sensor bar and search around the house for the 3rd party wiimote everytime I want to play cube games. Can I boot it directly to nintendont?

>> No.5266878

>>5266843
Are you seriously trying to imply that 1080i/720p CRTs are even remotely as common as traditional 480i sets?

>> No.5266881

>>5266843
Who ever refers to a television resolution by anything other than visible raster? A retard, that is who. EDTV was non existent in consumer land until right before widescreen kicked off.

>> No.5266884

>>5266878
>1080i/720p CRTs
lol at that point the games you'd want to play on a CRT don't get that high in resolution anyway.

>> No.5266885

>>5265957
Not really but it can output 240p component so there's not a lot of alternatives in that department unless you're fine with high latency.

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5266901

>>5266863
I want to take a crack at a 2018 tutorial to do it from vanilla. My youtube autism is out there for OpenRCT2 and gets linked in /vr/ct occasionally.

In short:
>get Homebrew channel by whatever means
>install d2x v10 rev 52 to 249 and 250 ( https://wii.guide/ has good instructions)
>install usb loader GX from sourceforge (latest version update was, like, last week)
>grab priiloader ( http://wii.guide/priiloader ) and install it
>hold the reset button and power up the console
>pick System Menu Hacks and set these options
>pick Settings and adjust them as well (posting pic of mine in a sec)
>pick Load/Install File and pick USB Loader GX

Save everything and the Wii will skip system menu entirely and boot straight to ULGX. You can pick Nintendont instead if you care to but desu take the time and set up ULGX, it makes for the best experience.

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>>5266901
Personally I leave the "Return To" option as system menu so I can get to it and change wifi settings, etc. if I need to. That setting actually hijacks the syscall so anything that would try to boot sysmenu (with that black and static grey loading screen) boots the selected entry

>> No.5266913

I'm starting to think that the same dude is repeatedly making this thread over and over just to make people waste their time commenting.

>> No.5266915

>>5266913
It's the same guy that does the weekly lynx thread

>> No.5266929

>>5266885
>Not really
LOL
Stuff the Wii emulates perfectly
>C64
>Atari 2600 5200 7800
>NES
>SEGA Master System
>Genesis
>SEGA CD
>PC Engine/TurboGrafx-16
>Game Boy/Color/Advanced
>SNES
>Amiga
>ColecoVision
>Intellivision
>Game Gear
>Atari Lynx
>Neo Geo Pocket
>Vectrex
>Arcade games via MAME and Retroarch cores

>> No.5266942

It's ok for the most part with 2d consoles. 5th gen is garbage on it, but some games are very playable. Input lag is brutal with games like Tetris Attack, especially without a CRT. Some GBA games will struggle with their FPS. Some emulators will be picky about your wiimote if you aren't using an alternative gamepad. But on the plus side it's easy as shit to setup, has proper output for CRT, super convenient if you already have a Wii, and it really does support a lot of consoles. But... If you don't already own a Wii, I'd recommend going with something that can at least support the 5th gen with minimal issue. The Wii works, but there is so much better out there

>> No.5266948

>>5266929
It does not do perfect SNES under any circumstances. VC, VC injects and snes9x are hardly perfect.

>> No.5266950

>>5266948
>>5266929
I was real confused when I put Snes9x on my cousins Wii and super mario world ran at like 2 frames a second.
I figured I was doing something wrong.
Need to mess around with the VC I guess.

>> No.5266970

>>5266942
>5th gen is garbage on it, but some games are very playable.
^this

Some 5th gen games that do run well on Wii
>PS1:
>Strikers 1945
> X-Men vs. Street Fighter
> Marvel vs. Capcom Clash of Super Heroes
..and most other PS1 games are going to run like a rusted Slinky unless you're willing to spend all sorts of time tracking down different builds of WiiSX just to play SOTN.

>N64:
>Blast Corps
>Banjo Kazooie
>Donkey Kong 64
>Doom 64
>Ocarina of Time
>Super Mario 64

Other N64 games run pretty good, but with some minor imperfections or glitches. Rogue Squadron won't work because the Wii just can't handle it, but Shadows of the Empire just barely works well enough to be playable.

>> No.5266976

>>5266948
Works perfectly for me. I coined a term: Em-revving. It works like this, start an emulator, load a ROM, run it, then reset it, you'd be surprised how often that fixes it.

>>5266950
>I was real confused when I put Snes9x on my cousins Wii and super mario world ran at like 2 frames a second.
>I figured I was doing something wrong.
>Need to mess around with the VC I guess.
Try to get the latest updates and set them optimally, or maybe your Wii is having its own issues.

>> No.5266979

>>5266009
Anything newer than a Wii will only display 480i through Composite video.

>> No.5267006

>>5266950
>I was real confused when I put Snes9x on my cousins Wii and super mario world ran at like 2 frames a second.
I just tried it on Snes9xGX 4.3.2 and it seems perfectly fine aside from being a shadow of SMB3.

>> No.5267009

>>5266970
For Playstation I was able to play through Road Rash Jail Break with only a few random crashes and save loss here and there. Diablo co-op, and Bishi Bashi were just fine. G-darius was sad. Back when I tried I remember the available compatibility lists we're incomplete at best, so there is a lot of potential with it I guess.

>> No.5267016

>>5266950
Idea: On my Wii the splash loaders for NES and SNES; et al didn't want to work when the main screen was full of ROM. I mean, my Wii had Neo Geo games and the like on there..well, when I put all my games on an SD card, the NES loader started to work again. So I am thinking that if one loads Snes9x via a splash screen loader-and they already have their main Wii channel screen populated with ROMs, it may be taxing the Wii's memory. In fact, it has to be. So try playing SNES via the Homebrew Channel and see it that helps, or de-populate your main channel screen to give the emulators that extra buffer they need.

>> No.5267017

>>5267009
>For Playstation I was able to play through Road Rash Jail Break with only a few random crashes and save loss here and there.
That's not too bad. I remember playing Road Rash on the Genesis. Still got a cart lying around somewhere. It's like the Wii has got you covered for some 5th gen fun, but not a ton and it won't be accurate.

>> No.5267019

>>5266881
A line is a line you dumb fuck. Analog signal has no pixels but discrete lines. Every crt tv is capable of display at least 480 lines.

>> No.5267027

>>5267006
shots fired

smw is just so comfy, though

>> No.5267031

>>5267027
It just feels off to me. Always has. I try to play it,but eh. SMB3 feels to comfy in its first few levels, again something about that 8-bit art style.

>> No.5267038

Is the Wii U really not capable of outputting 240p, even out of component cables?

>> No.5267043

>>5267038
Correct. Nintendo confirmed it. So, even if you download their tool onto your Wii from the Wii Shop, it won't help one bit.

>> No.5267047

>>5267038
Probably yes since theres a wii inside but why would someone do that if it has a native hdmi output thats way more convenient?

>> No.5267048

It's great because it's cheap, very easily modifiable, and there's good software for emulating everything up to PSX/N64 quite well.

It's bad because it has absolutely no HD output. It looks shitty on most modern flatscreens - there are HDMI and component cables, but personally I don't think they help anything very much.

If you have a CRT it's a great option. If not, a PC, raspberry pi or whatever would probably be a better option these days.

I love my Wii to death but I think they days of it being the best emulation device are long gone.

>> No.5267056

>>5267048
>It looks shitty on most modern flatscreens
Compared to what? It isn't any worse than the ps2/xbox/cube.

>> No.5267064

>>5267056
So what, I shouldn't have mentioned it?

>> No.5267065

>>5267047
No, dude, it won't output 240p no matter what. Not unless someone hacked their Wii U to do so.

>> No.5267067

>>5267064
This isn't your fucking blog.

>> No.5267069

>>5267067
this

>> No.5267072

>>5267065
Why would someone use a wii U on a CRT in the first place?

>> No.5267079

>>5267067
This.

>> No.5267080

>>5267072
To make old games look as true to their original presentations, which was the programmer's intent. They designed the games on CRTs with CRTs in mind. They were counting on the limitations of the cathode rays and the screen itself to mask and soften the sprites to a significant degree.

>> No.5267087

>>5267080
In my experience, once you get high enough quality connections, it all tends to look pretty close no matter what screen you use

>> No.5267104

>>5267087
I sympathize, but sometimes it's night and day. Asteroids (1979) looks like SHIT on anything but a real vector graphics monitor or at least a raster CRT. Back to Asteroids, this is getting to the heart of the matter.

Compare this real one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w60sfReTsRA

with this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUXZsFXgilA

This is one of those cases where only a "through the air" video of such a game will do because a direct capture would still have to be displayed on a non-vector monitor. So filming a real game is a good way to do it.

>> No.5267109

>>5267072
You could also do an arcade cab with that setup, although an original Wii would be more ideal in that case. The extra power lost by not using a Wii U is negligible in emulation terms.

>> No.5267116

>>5267087
Scrolling always looks better on a CRT, objects do not blur.

>> No.5267119

>>5265962
you must have owned one then

>> No.5267121

>>5267116
Getting a TV with a high refresh rate would probably help with that.

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>>5266929
>perfectly

I don't think you know what that word means, anon. inb4 "w-well, I don't notice anything wrong!"

>> No.5267158

>>5267132
And I don't think you know how to emulate as well as you think you do.

>> No.5267229

>>5265957
Mostly. I like mine, but certain SNES games with enhancement chips run like shit. Like Yoshi's Island. Other than that it's great for NES, TG16/CD, Genesis/Sega CD, Master System. Some N64 with wad files. Get one that has the gamecube ports.

>> No.5267295

It's great if you have a CRT lying around and want a cheap, reasonably accurate emulation experience through 4th gen. Anything more advanced than the Sega CD though (besides what's available on the N64 VC) and you're going to start running into issues. Full support for the entire Wii and GCN libraries is a big plus too.
On a side note, a sideways Wiimote is a great NES controller.

>> No.5267638

>>5267047
>why would someone do that if it has a native hdmi output thats way more convenient?

Because the Wii U outputs limited RGB through HDMI, but the full range from component.

>> No.5267651

>>5265957
>Is the wii a good emulation machine?
in 2019: no, sure isn't.
>I heard it can basically emulate a shit ton of system pretty well.
pretty well? it's barely adequate.

>> No.5267678

>>5267651
>whatever it is it's shit

Bringing the true spirit of /v/ to /vr/.

>> No.5268156

>>5265957
It's a cheap alternative if you don't want to build a PC with CRT Emudriver.

>> No.5268175

>>5265957
If you want to emulate Wii games with motion controls, the easiest way to do it is to get a Wii. Anything else? Not so much.

>> No.5268193

>>5267158
SNES9X and VC are just plain not accurate, especially when it comes to special chip games.

>> No.5268264

I just got a sony kv-27s36, it has composite and s video, is the wii a good choice to play emulators in 240p? I heard there are some raspberry addons that can output s video, but are they good?

>> No.5268293

>>5268264
It's fine for everything up to 5th gen. 5th gen support is spotty outside of the official N64 VC titles

>> No.5268357

Does Genesis GX Plus support USB controllers? I'm debating on purchasing a USB adapter for my saturn controller since no one has made a Wiimote adapter for them yet.

>> No.5268371

>>5265957
Some reasons i like it:

> cheap. Local thrift shops have dozens for almost nothing. Get some spares for parts.

> plays VC and roms at 240p

> cheap and easily available component cables

> Hulu/Netflix

> plays dvd

> one of the easiest consoles to mod.

> remote is very low latency for bluetooth

> easily play wii/gc isos from usb

> lots of good controller options

>> No.5268373

>>5268371
>> Hulu/Netflix
That's going away soon, but who cares.

>> No.5268397

>>5268293
I would be ok with that, I just found that the retrotink goes for about $60+, getting a wii seems just like a pretty solid and affordable choice since s video cables cost around $10, also, gamecube support.

>> No.5268428

>>5266901
>>5266912
Not the guy you replied to but thanks for the instructions anon.
I needed that too and have been putting away for too long now.
I'll do it after I get home from work.

>> No.5268432

>>5268357
You can get a Genesis adapter for the Wii's Gamcube ports. I've been using an SNES controller to play Genesis games.

>> No.5268443

>>5268432
>I've been using an SNES controller to play Genesis games.
Did you know that the SNES Classic controllers work in the Wii controller port?

>> No.5268460

>>5265968
I haven't heard about this development in emulators on xbone, how is this achieved?

>> No.5268462

>>5267295
>On a side note, a sideways Wiimote is a great NES controller.

I was with you up untill this.

>> No.5268495

>>5267019
480p is an industry accepted way to indicate a display that updates all ~480 visible lines or so every refresh. On a CRT, this is a display that can run at 31kHz horizontal sync. The p is for "progressive".
Very few CRT TVs do this. PC monitors and late-90s arcade monitors typically can do this.
Many modern flat-panel HDTV screens will accept it too.

480i is what most NTSC CRTs display. The i is for "interlaced".
~240 visible lines or so updated each refresh, with an offset to present a 480 line image. 15kHz horizontal sync.
Every CRT TV is capable of this.
Because every other line is updated every refresh, this results in some jitter.
on a 15kHz display, you can also show 240p, which simply removes the offset to update those 240 lines of the display every refresh, resulting in an image with no jitter but at a lower resolution.

>> No.5268498

Is it better to run GC isos on an SD card or USB storage? I can't find any specs online about the read speeds on either for the Wii.

>> No.5268505

Wii is only a good emulation machine if you have a standard definition tube TV. It displays true 240p through component, and thus looks much cleaner than plugging in a laptop to your tube via s-video 480i.

If you don't have a standard tv, use a damn laptop.

>> No.5268516

>>5267019
Most CRT TVs are not capable of displaying 480 lines at 60Hz though (which is 480p) but only 480 interlaced lines at 30Hz (480i).

480p requires 31kHz horizontal scan, while most CRT TVs were limited to 15kHz.

Don't confuse CRT TVs with CRT monitors (PVM, BVM) though, which supports 31kHz scan but don't really give the same visual feeling as consumers CRT TVs when dealing with 240p video.

>> No.5268519

>>5268516
PC monitors have even higher refresh than that.

>> No.5268528

>>5268519
You're probably confusing horizontal scan with vertical scan dude.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multisync_monitor

>> No.5268538

>>5267038
>>5267047
>>5267065

No it can't. Even if you 'hacked' it, the WiiU video encoder is not capable of outputing non-interlaced 15kHz video signal. For Wii VC games or homebrew that used that video mode, the signal is simply upscaled (each lines are doubled).

>> No.5268540

>>5268498
I havent tried running them off sd card but I have played ikaruga off usb just fine. I didnt notice it being terribly slow. Definetly not as slow as PS2 usb. I can try to test this though.

I beleive some high end sd cards claim a theoretical faster read spead than usb 2.0 but it depends on what the speed of the wiis memory controller for that to even matter.

>> No.5268558

>>5268519
So what? Those are not CRT TVs and they don't handle 15kHz video as CRT TVs (for the few that can support such signal)

>> No.5268750

>>5268443
Yeah, but then I'd need to use a wiimote.

>> No.5268770

>>5268750
You could put it in one of your pockets if the cord isn't long enough.

>> No.5268917

>>5268770
I don't like having to keep them charged. My adapter also has slightly less input lag, though it doesn't matter that much.

>> No.5268919

>>5268917
>I don't like having to keep them charged.
I use Duracells and they last a long time, but whatever works for ya.

>> No.5269374

>>5268498
Ive used both and havent noticed any difference. Also for what its worth, the smash melee folks, which are known for being autistic about their 'perfect' setups and whatnot, play melee at tournaments with wii via sd card

>> No.5269664

>>5266054
>Wii plays DVDs
wait are you serious

>> No.5269691

>>5269664

Some earlier Wii's do, yeah. They removed DVD support in a later revision but if you have a compatible model you can just click the disc icon in WiiMC and watch a DVD.

>> No.5269741

>>5269664
everything before 2008 should, got one for $5 few months ago that had never went online on 3.4 firmware and it could run dvd

>> No.5269941

It's really amazing how this thread is full of retards. It's even worse than the average /v/ somehow. Well done, everybody.

>> No.5269986

>>5265957
It can emulate everything before the PS1/N64 era with stellar results, and even then you can inject an N64 rom into a pre-existing Virtual Console .wad and play N64 games near-flawlessly

>> No.5269991

>>5269986
N64 VC injections only work well for a few games

>> No.5269993

>>5269991
They run better than simply using a homebrew N64 emulator, do they not?

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>>5269664
>Wii plays DVDs
wait are you serious

>>5269691

yeah , what the FUCK. Mine wont load a DVD natively from the regular WiiMenu, and WiiMC & Mplayer are both majorly picky about how you watch a DVD.

Do i need an older model?
Is my model ok but my firmware version is not right?

>> No.5270313

>>5269993
No. Both methods are total shit, don't bother.

>> No.5270352

>>5270036
why would you get a wii to watch dvds (analog output!), yikes.
get a cheap blurry-player with hdmi-out.

>> No.5270684

>>5270352
Not OP, but sometimes I like to watch NTSC DVDs the way they were originally viewed, on a curved blurry tube.

>> No.5270764

>>5270684
Then you could use a PS2 or a PS3

>> No.5270845

>>5270352

because i already have a wii, and if it can do more things, then id do that. they are ultra cheap, i could get a console for just $10. i dont need another consoleish thing hooked up to my tv, and i dont plan to nor own any bluerays

>> No.5270857

>>5265957
Yes but can you run Wii emulators through dolphin?

>> No.5271461

>>5265957
>Is the wii a good emulation machine?
I have a few wii consoles in my home. They are exceptional at emulating just about every console that would have worked on a CRT tv.
>Very small console
>Supports Component, composite, and svideo @ 240p-480p
>Controller selection range from 1st party NES to dual analog and Gamecube. Many wireless options available.
>Very easy to add homebrew
>Very easy to add Wii-ware and Virtual console titles.
>emulates many of the popular cart based systems without an issue.
>Runs backup games for the wii & gamecube from external usb Hard drive or SSD.
>Outputs Wii & GC games at 480p if your tv supports it
>Potential to use USB Flash/thumb drive for backups (individual results vary. I have had success with sandisc and pny brands)
>Does more and is cheaper than Pi or any of the "classic mini" systems
>Wii is the last and most powerful 240p system.


Some of the cons:
>Some emulation is not possible. N64 & 32x are the big ones in this category.
>Your imaginary friends on /vr/ will call you faggot

If you have a CRT TV, the wii is hands down the best emulation machine you could get. I gave away my NES, SNES and Sega + 32x because of what it does in the amount of space it takes up. If you like Gamecube games, it is a cheaper & superior way to play the games that support 480p. Find a Wii with the gamecube control ports, and you have a very well rounded entertainment machine. I hated the Wii until my kids migrated to PC gaming. Once I homebrewed and modded it, it became the most popular console in the house again, with the n64 being a close second.

Other thoughts:

Most of the good 1st party N64 games have Virtual Console releases that may keep you satisfied with not owning an N64. N64 emulation has been shit forever. It is just how it is. Having a N64 in addition to the Wii are the ONLY nintendo systems I own and I am content with the 20 year backlog of things I missed.

>> No.5271479

>>5270857
Yes, but other than N64 games idk why you'd want to.

>> No.5271481

>>5270036
>wait are you serious
Some of the wii models do run DVDs. They are earlier models however. I have a Red anniversary wii and a black one. Both made about the same time, and neither supports the DVD functions. Earlier models do have that potential. >>5270036
>Do i need an older model?
Yes. You probably need one older than the one you have.

>>5270764
>Then you could use a PS2 or a PS3
If the wii model you have will run DVDs, you have a good wii. Some of us still use 15khz CRT tvs. If you have a Ps2, it is no big deal.

Do they even still sell dvd players? I am thinking about stealing my mother-in-law's just because it has svideo output and replacing it with a dusty unused blueray player. Sure blueray looks great....On a HD tv, but I only own 2 blue ray discs, and couldn't care less about watching "No country for old men" for the millionth time.

>> No.5272571

bump

>> No.5272585

>>5271481
The later Wii's are actually better overall. They were redesigned to use less power and run significantly cooler. All the later colored Wii's have this revisions

>> No.5273404

>>5272585
>The later Wii's are actually better overall.
Yes, I understand this totally. There was a point in time where they removed the GC control ports, and finished out the production. I read many things stating that the best models were the latest ones that had the GC ports. I didn't even know they stopped making GC ported models until the other week. I just figured that all systems had that support.

>> No.5273438

Softmodding the Wii is really a great fucking thing. When mine stopped reading discs in 2012 or so, I softmodded it and wew lad, I wish I had done it a long time ago.

>Wii games
>Gamecube games
>Some N64 games, needs work
>NES, SNES, Genesis, GBA, GB
>Weird as fuck Homebrew underground games
>Plays media off Hard Drive
>Able to be max comfy with sideways Wiimote or Gamecube controller

I highly recommend everyone softmod their Wii if they haven't already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TvOBBQh-gU

>> No.5273570

>>5265957
Mine has eaten everything I've thrown and then some. NES(FCE Ultra), SNES(SNES9x), GBA(mGBA), and Genesis/MS/GG/CD(GenPlus).
The VC additions further ice the cake. Component on a 20" Wega, play with either a GC controller, or sometimes my SNES Classic controller(which is superb for SNES games), barely noticeable lag(as in I have to really focus to even see it, and it hasn't impacted play).
Quite, cool-running, compact, can't ask for better.

The 240 out can't be matched by more modern offerings. Makes 8-16 bit games look better than modern shit, not even exaggerating.
Not hard to tinker with either. And, it plays fucking Metroid Prime(top 5 game for me).

>> No.5273615
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I use the Wii for emulation and I even had the Wii Dual mod applied to it. It made the analog video out look a bit sharper and added HDMI out.

>> No.5273924

I bought a wii for dirt cheap, softmoded it and bought a GC controller for it.
So far I've been using it 99% of the time to play N64 ang GC games on a CRT.

I think it's worth it just for the GC library alone.

>> No.5274070

Yes, especially since they're at their lowest price point right now and you can get a used one for like ten bucks.

>> No.5275034

>>5266848
can you post the guide you use i want to do this for my sons wii

>> No.5275035

>>5275034
https://wii.guide/

>> No.5275067
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>> No.5275073

>>5275067
I don't think it's really worth it to play stuff on anything less than 14 inches.

>> No.5275109

>>5275067
bro, that looks comfy as fuck

>> No.5275124

>>5265995
Can't the OG Xbox output to a CRT?
Never had one.

>> No.5275165

>>5275124
Yes but it can't do 240p

>> No.5275170

>>5275067
>squint a little more

>> No.5275373

let us never forget that the wii can do 240p.

>> No.5275461

Quick wii related noob question... The wii scart connector has numerous pins missing... Is this all it needs to display 240p? And would using the scart connector for other consoles affect them picture wise in any way?

>> No.5275503

Anybody?

>> No.5275515
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>>5275461
If you're talking about pic related it works perfectly well for Wii games at 480/576i and emulators at double-strike resolutions.

The missing pins do not affect 15khz RGB output in any way.

>> No.5275543

>>5275461
The missing pins are for input, SCART cables are two-way. Since the Wii doesn't have video inputs there's no sense adding them.

>> No.5275573

>>5275515
i have a slightly different set up with the cable, its the red, white and yellow output and a separate converter to make it scart, whihc made me wonder if it used it with the red,white,yellow output from another console would it affect it

TIL

>> No.5275641

>>5275067
>have to play with binoculars

>> No.5275642

>>5275573
>red, white and yellow output and a separate converter to make it scart,
enjoy your composhit

>> No.5276782

>>5275034
>can you post the guide you use i want to do this for my sons wii
Update the wii to the latest firmware, which is 4.3
from there install homebrew channel.

https://please.hackmii.com/

Get all of your information from the most updated sources, as there is lots of old and non-working sources out there. I found that GBATemp.net has a forum that focuses on wii & wii modding. It has a very active community, and developers of 3rd party apps are very active there.

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>>5266024
good post

>> No.5277838

>>5273570
how do i make mgba look good? playing pixel perfect is too small for me since gba games are like 160p

>> No.5279275

Is the 240p resolution only outputted when you use a Component cable (the one with red green and blue ends) or does it work with the default composite cable?

>> No.5279305

>>5279275
>does it work with the default composite cable
Yes.

>> No.5279523

>>5279275
>does it work with the default composite cable?
It should work with every form of output from the system including Svideo.

>> No.5279663

>>5268193

>>5266948
>>5266950
Has anyone here tried the new versions of SNES9x GX from 2018 (4.3.8/9)? Looks like Tantric improved the core emulation

>> No.5279702

>>5268460
I think that he meant 360 not xbone.

>> No.5279936

>>5279305
>>5279523
So component isn't necessary unless I want EDTV?

>> No.5280998

>>5279936
>So component isn't necessary unless I want EDTV?
I don't think so. Component supports 240p-480p, while the Svideo/composite does 240p/480i. The "better" your cables, the cleaner your signal. IF your TV supports both 240p & component video, you are doing the best quality that you can. It is minimal at best compared to Svideo, but is noticeably better than composite.

>> No.5281085

>>5279663
I've been using 4.9 for a while and there's way less audio stuttering than before. That said I never really noticed major problems in the emulation beforehand. Always seemed to work well enough. Anything I should really test out that had major issues?

>> No.5281092

>>5281085
>4.9
4.3.9 I mean.

>> No.5281242

>>5268460
Retroarch is getting a port to xbone. But anon meant 360

>> No.5282940

>>5281085
Hmm, how about games like Yoshi's Island, Kirby Dream Land 3 and other Super FX games? In fact, has anyone here tried these two forks? How does the RetroArch core fare?
https://gbatemp.net/threads/snes9x-gx-4-4-0-beta-feedback-requested.521929/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/snes9x-rx-a-new-fork.527131/

>> No.5282985

>>5282940
Dream Land 3 isn't a Super Fx game and it's already officially on Wii VC

>> No.5283287

>>5282985
I know, I'm just saying that I remember that game having issues with Snes9x GX

>> No.5283337

>>5268462
It has some of the best feeling buttons ever. It's a bit small but that's the only real problem.

>> No.5283351

>>5265957
not really
its not as easily portable as something like a retro pie or a laptop and its analog only
also it can only emulate up to 4th gen reliably with the ez stuff like handhelds thrown in

>> No.5283364

>>5283351
>its not as easily portable as something like a retro pie or a laptop
>laptop

Ha laptops are so awkward and shitty. I'm even holding up a Wii with my other hand while I typed this.

>> No.5283820

>>5283337
Well the size is a big problem in my case, especially the dpad.

>> No.5284163

what's a good third-party snes-like controller for wii, except the one from the snes classic?

>> No.5284430
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>>5284163
I tried pic related but it was shit. Just stick to official SNES classic, or the Wii classic controller.
I lucked out and picked up a brand new SNES classic controller from eBay for $13. Money well spent, just keep checking there and you'll eventually find one at a reasonable price.

>> No.5286063
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Can the Wii component cables do RGB? The pins are the same on the connector.

>> No.5286454

>>5286063
Euro ones can, but only 480i/576i

>> No.5286480

>>5286063
rgb has four video-signals (rgb + sync), component just three.

>> No.5286527

I use mine mostly for lightgun games and translated J-titles on my HDTV

>> No.5288634

>>5265957
If you play on CRT the 240p mode is a godsend

>> No.5288909

>>5265957
Wiis are only good if you want a minimal hassle emubox that works amazingly on CRTs. If you aren't using a CRT then don't bother, a PC will work much better.

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>>5266024