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>>5237105
Fucking this. Although 5 is really fun and 4 and 6 have stories worth experiencing, the first Final Fantasy is so much more replayable than the rest.

My favorites are III and V.

6 > 5 = 4 > 3 > 1 > 2

In general they just got better with each installment.

>>5237097

>>5237097
Chrono Trigger is the best FF game

A Final Fantasy thread died for this.

4 is my personal favourite.

1, 3 and 5 are good if you want a customizable job system.

6 and 2 are trash.

>>5237582
I can’t argue that it isn’t a final fantasy game. Too many OGs worked on it

>>5237105
But I have to say I prefer the remakes rather than the original.

Tactics is best

>>5237587
kek

>>5237097
FF1 is absolutely the best, and I say that as someone who didn't even play it until playing many of the others first.

What makes FF1 so good is the pacing. Battles are quick and lack the painfully long attack animations of later games, there's no excessive dialogue with retarded anime shit, and you can traverse the overworld easily. The speedy gameplay not only makes it easy to jump in for either 15m or 3 hours, it also creates this highly satisfying gameplay loop where you're constantly gaining money, experience and items without sifting through constant cutscenes and the like. When you finally return to town with all of your goodies and you get to restock and upgrade, it's intoxicating.

Everything is made better by the amazing atmosphere and music, as well as the endless replay value associated with being able to form a new kind of party every time you play. Later games simply lack the refined simplicity of FF1, and that is why it will always be the best.

>>5237097

none theyre all pretty fucking boring. real talk.

>>5237681
>there's no excessive dialogue with retarded anime shit

since ff games are the king of angsty pretentious shit it's almost surreal how the first one had nothing like that whatsoever and was like a fun little d&d quest

Is V bland because of a bad translation or is it just not a great story to begin with?

1, the PS1 version is my favorite.

>>5237691
When the designers thought the game had to have a "story", a window was open for angsty anime shit to come in and poison the well. It started with 2, actually, which is ironic considering how fans hate it a lot.

>>5237691
Exactly, it had its roots in western RPGs, both mechanically and aeathetically. FF1 feels like a different series from the rest in many ways.

>>5237097
4

>>5237097
8>3>7>1>2>9

>>5239017
This picture tricks you into thinking FF3 is fun (it's not)

>>5239019
You are just spoiled after playing the newer games.

>>5237615
So what? If people who build a tower go on to build a warehouse next, it doesn't mean the warehouse is really a tower.

>>5239038
Oh gee yet another Mini dungeon, how original.

>>5237693
>RPG
>story
>great
If you're playing for the story you already fucked up.

>>5237785
even the angst doesn't bother me THAT much, it's more how the subject matter is totally neutered and never has a realistic depiction of anything like violence or sexuality

but it's anime so what was i expecting

V

>>5239057
I don't care if a game doesn't have realistic depictions of sex and violence if the game has good mechanics and is fun for me. However in Japan it could be problematic if a game has too much sex, like the stuff published for the PC engine, the Saturn or the Vita, which were doomed to be known as the "porn game" systems and nobody who is serious about making games want to be associated with that.

Also >roots in Western RPGs
That is true, most early versions of Japanese RPGs were inspired by the Japanese ports of Ultima and Wizardry. The job system seems to be directly lifted from the class system of WIzardry for instance.

>>5239108
>problematic
>misuses greentext
Please return to plebbit.

>>5237691
It's not really surreal, FF1 was the product of multiple people who liked RPGs (one of which was a massive RPG nerd) and wanted one chance at making something they liked since the company might have died after that, which is why FF1 ended up the way it is, it's a last ditch effort by a team that worked on a pretty simple but clear vision based on their passion, FF2 is the same but more ambitious.
>>5239108
Shut the fuck up and return from the shithole that spawned you, imbecile mouthbreather.

>>5237097
6 obviously.

>>5239257
>It's not really surreal, FF1 was the product of multiple people who liked RPGs
*Liked Wizardry and nothing else and even then you can tell they didn't play Wizardry that much.

1-6 got better with each game.
Except 2. Fuck 2.

>>5239342
>*Liked Wizardry and nothing else
Shut the fuck up.
>even then you can tell they didn't play Wizardry that much.
Yeah, because if it isn't a 1:1 clone it's not good enough, right?

>>5237097
Objective answer you'll get from normal people: ff6
Answer you'll get here: ff1
/vr/ hates rpg, ff1 was the game that felt the most like a classic "adventure" rather than jrpg and had no plot, so you'll get this anwer. But this board is biased. I'd ask this question to people who actually like ff games.

I've been wondering, what's the best way to play the first game? NES game with PSX fixes? Straight up PSX version?

>>5239558
Wonderswan Color or PS1.

>>5239559
Now we're talking

>>5239349
You didn't pass the IQ filter.

>>5239017
Where did you get these superb 4X4 pics of various JRPGs?

>>5237681
It sounds like you haven't played FF2 and FF3. They have the same good atmosphere and music but with improvements to all other mechanics from combat to dialog to inventory.

The classes in FFI are really just a difficulty select; add more Fighters for easier, add more Theives for harder.

>>5237097
IV is my favourite, but it's also the only pre-VII entry I've ever finished. I played the Chronicles version.

Never finished V, and maybe it's because I played the weird Anthology translation. FFVI's last leg was a slog, so I didn't finish it either.

I tried the DS version of III and somewhere past half-way in I was like "why am I playing this?" because all of it felt like trodden territory, even if what I'd played before came after it.

I suppose I should just play the first game to completion, at least, since I am a very big fan of some of the later games (all of the PSX ones, X-2 and XII).

I think I would really like to play II, because everyone says it's bad and I want to experience why for myself. That, and it establishes early on that one of the core features of the series is a willingness to experiment.

>>5239623
Kill yourself.

You are from Reddit.

Nothing you think is worthwhile.

You should kill yourself, because everyone hates you.

I don't know how paragraphs work, and I think people should take my opinion seriously.

>>5239108
>The job system seems to be directly lifted from the class system of WIzardry for instance.
It's almost a straight rip of AD&D you stupid ass motherfucker.

>>5237097
4 the after years

>>5239038
FF3 is a fun game but I'd rather just play FF5

6, then 4. Don't know why people are saying 1, that game is actual trash.

>>5237118
Objectively correct taste right here, was gonna disagree for a sec saying 4 might be a little better but you had them equal

Weird seeing someone with your exact ratings for a game series on this contrarian board

FF6

IV and V were my favorites out of those.

This entire fucking thread is populated by chatbots. /vr/ is fucking dead, but don't tell the dinosaurs that work on their CRTs, because they're Gen X, and they're too fucking stupid to realize that the jews are socially engineering them to be the perfect slaves.

>>5240735
Where else is there to go

the job system from v sets it so far apart its the best part of the game for sure but vi is like, when the stories actually started getting good

>>5240791
Excuse me?

>>5239589
I use my super-powers

>>5237097
6

V > III > VI > IV (DS remake and ports based on it) > II > I > IV (SFC and ports)

>>5239623
>FFVI's last leg was a slog, so I didn't finish it either.
fyi you can just finish FFVI any time you feel like it after you get the Airship in the WoR.

>>5241113

>Fucks over Oceanus
>Trials and Tribulations
>Reborn to try again

The pettiness of the Greek gods is absolutely hilarious.

>>5237097
Best:
FF7

Decent:
FF6

Kind of shitty:
FF9

Irredeemable trash:
The rest

just finished playing a Remixed romhack of FF1 with all the bug fixes and it was fucking fast and glorious.

i love FF2 for trying some ambitious mechanics which, sadly, failed in execution. FF4 has a tight story but not a lot of replay value. FF6 kind of lost me.

personal favorite at this point is probably FF5. i still can't believe some fucking apetard came up with the idea to have the big bad evil boss be "an evil tree" and somehow made it work. i hate Exdeath way more than any other boss in any of these games.

Tactics and its goofy-hearted sequels are also a blast and a better implementation of the Job system. but i suppose those are different genres and don't answer OP's question.

>>5237097
Literally newest to oldest
6>5>4>3>2>1

>>5237105
You what, anon?

5 > 6 > 4 > 3 > 1 > 2

>>5239019
Mechanics wise it's neat but I feel like they have you saving a world that you're never given any reason to care about. I get that the story has to be somewhat light because of the custom party but it just feels very disjointed.

>>5237693
FFV is a game you play for the gameplay
it's not supposed to have a super serious story like FFIV and FFVI

>>5242690
>Remixed romhack of FF1
?

>>5237112
>4 and 6 have stories worth experiencing
The funniest part is you really mean that.

>>5237105
I hope you are talking about the ps1 remake.

4 > 6 > 5 > 1 > 3 > 2

The series didn't really find it's image until the 4th entry. They are all fun games outside of 2 and 3. Those are a bore.

bump

>>5237097
5 and 6, but for totally different reasons. 5 has, in my opinion, the best Job system that the series has ever seen and, by extension, probably the best gameplay overall. The story is very basic, but it more than makes up for it with a likable cast of characters, including the debut of Gilgamesh.

FF6, on the other hand, has atmosphere in spades. The setting has a huge amount of personality, and it does steampunk well in a time before steampunk became trashy and overdone. The World of Ruin has its share of problems, though. I think it was a mistake making it as open-ended as they did, because that messes with the difficulty curve and means that most of the characters don't really have any stand-out moments in the latter half.

After that, I think it goes 4 > 1 > 3 > 2

>>5237097
1 and 3. 5 seems pretty cool too but I couldn't get into it.

>>5243513
I feel like this applies to every FF game I've played. The characters and plot are interesting enough if you're used to anime (except IV because it is dog shit), but the world building is always lacking. The overworlds are so empty, most of the towns are just small hamlets and nothing really happens that doesn't involve your party. The southern continent in FF2 comes to mind; it's absolutely massive, but completely empty apart from the one dungeon you need to go to.

V > I > VI > II > III > IV

>>5246132
The worlds in FF6 and 7 feel pretty damn lived-in, if you ask me. Especially in 7, you have plenty of areas like the Wall Market or the Gold Saucer where it's clear that there's other stuff going on, and the effects of Shinra are felt all over the world. Otherwise, though, I get what you're saying.

>>5246159
7 is the worst offender imho. There are cars but no roads, trains that don't go anywhere, and basically no large civilization outside of Shinra-built locations even though humans are implied to have lived there for thousands of years. Nibelheim exported coal before the discovery of Mako, but to who? And what did they use it for? What happened to the rest of Wutai? Why were there no port towns before Shinra, when sailing logically must've been one of the first modes of transportation discovered? How does everyone have a TV when seemingly nothing is ever imported/exported from Midgar?

sadly I don't know the best but I know the worse. Fucking two man, grinding and the leveling up system are awful. The music in the game isn't that great either.

>>5237105
my nigga

>>5246241
>>5246159
Zozo and the Opera House in VI always annoyed the shit out of me. They're just randomly placed wherever.

>>5239481
>/vr/ hates rpgs that's why they like the one that respects rpg traditions the most instead of forcing unnecessary story elements that they actually pulled off only once or twice in 900 games

>>5241113
that game has fucking nice sprites

>>5237097
5 and 6 for me.
5 had oldschool charm with a light but enjoyable story but still enough depth to it to keep the gameplay enjoyable.
6 is just the best experience overall. It was the perfect capstone for the 2D era of RPGs.

4 is still pretty great, but 5 and 6 improved upon it in basically every way. The 1 remakes are fun but pretty shallow. 2 was an experimental mess. And I never got very far in 3. It just never grabbed me.

>>5247320
I get what you mean with the opera house, but Zozo is a city.

>>5237105
fpbp

>>5249534
Its a terrible city. Its supposed to be overrun with thieves and ne'erdowells, but it just feels so disconnected from everything. Plus its the only city that's in constant dark with inclement weather, which just bugs the shit out of me.

>>5252140

So...what should have been the lower levels of Vector?

>>5237097
VI

I'm at the part where Edge joins the party in IV but now I'm getting a little bored. do I have much of the game left? also is Edge underleveled when he joins because hes taking like 500 damage and dying like in 2 hits

>>5237097
FFVI>FFI>FFII>FFIV>FFV>FFIII

>>5252456
Edge is a glass cannon

>>5247258
>the chad fighter
>the virgin black belt

>>5252770
so how do i use him properly without wasting turns on revive

IV is the only one I finished all the way through. I also have a soft spot for Mystic Quest because it was the first Final Fantasy I ever played.

>>5237097
4 is the best in the most categories that count.

Bartz?
or
Butz?

>>5237097
Trick question, no Final Fantasy game is good.

>>5256271
>atelier
>tales of
Jesus Christ. Final Fantasy is a good entryway into games like Wizardry, not this faggotry

>>5256292
wizardry doesn't even have waifus, trash game

>>5256297
kys incel

>>5239342
>*Liked Wizardry and nothing else

Are you fucking retarded? Over 50% of the monster designs are ripped straight from old school D&D.

>>5243493
This

>>5237105
fpbp
>>5237648
No

I feel like the hate for FF2 is one big joke everyone tries to be on. It's a decent game, introduced a lot of series staples and the music is fantastic.

The gameplay made sense to me. Want Maria to be a magic user? Give her magic and some bit of practice. Want Guy to uses axes? Give him one and run a couple of battles.

>>5237097
What about the psp anniversary versions? are they good?

>>5237097
VI is the best I'd say. Though I enjoy them all.

VI > V=IV > III > I > II

>>5257003
Final Fantasy is braindead trash that will suck regardless of version, just don't play it. Go play fortnite or some shit.

>>5257003
The best versions. Also applies to FF4

>>5257436
nope, ff3 in nes is superior to psp version
also why the fuck you gotta battle every time you switch?
its fucking dumb, you spend more time battling switching jobs than actually leveling the jobs themselves

You’re a faggot

>>5256660
OK
but WTF ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO USE???
what if giving him axes is a mistake?
I bet the swords give better output and have more epic items towards the end

am I right?
its always the sword
every rpg chooses the sword

>>5237097
4 is best
if you want better graphics and music
go for the psp version
havent tried the after years but I hear its OK

>>5237714
Iv heard its the best for reasons I forgot

>>5237656
Could never get into it
What's so good about it?
Tactic Ogre LUCT is superior IMO

>>5256660
The whole hate is a basically a meme. People like to point out that you can hit your own party members and everyone acts like the game expects you to do that every battle. Its all memers and shitters.