/vr/ - Retro Games

Who gives a shit how much some fat ass scammer is charging for NES games? I have a full No Intro set.

>>5164043
It don't feel right on emulation

>>5164052
then buy a flash cart to play on real hardware.

>>5164052
>on emulation

Is English not your native language or are resellers illiterate?

>>5164064
>if you don't like to emulate then you're automatically a reseller
Fuck off.

>>5164038
If you collected games back when they were cheaper, you'd understand the irritation.

>>5164052

>>5164104
>collected games
>when they were cheaper
you should have bought them all when you had a chance, then. did you really think a dwindling pool of increasingly vintage games wasn't going to go up in price?

>>5164118
Well, beyond not being able to afford every desired product, I also collect things that simply aren't available for sale all the time (like non-retail games), and even those have shot up in the past 5 years.

>>5164043
Does this set include every region release for every game?

>>5164171
They at least try yeah, but it's not perfect. It's also organized in the what is quite possibly the most nightmarish way you could ever imagine.

It's an artificial market driven by hipsterism and lack of good quality options for legal purchase of old videogames.
Would you buy a 30 years old book more than 5 bucks? Or some shitty VHS tape? Most old things are not worth shit, you can find centuries old objects for a poor price as long as there's no insane collector market.

>>5164234

Would you buy a 30 years old book more than 5 bucks?

Are you stupid or something bud?

Ever look up the price of a Guttenburg Bible?

>>5164263
Dure, there are some expensive books. Most are worthless flea market and second hand store fodder.

>>5164271

Same thing would be true with video games if they produced as much as they do with books. The only reason bitches aren't paying 2,000 dollars for Fifty Shades of Grey is because they printed 125 million copies.

I see it as no different than the rise and fall of mainstream comic collecting. According to the price guides everyone collection surged in value in the 90s and every single issue they owned was somehow magically $5 to $12, and they set out to hoard every single issue of every major series. 10 or 15 years later when they went to sell them no one would even pay $1 for those same issues. The guides still list inflated values but there are no buyers. Other than special snowflake first appearance issues, almost all comics from the 1970s through the 1990s have lost all value. Then you add the CGC grading process and all non-graded comics plummet in demand even more. Due to the cost of getting a book graded people only bother with certain issues. Entire print runs of comics were not worth grading, and therefore not worth owning.


Boomer collectors thought they were sitting on a treasure trove worth thousands but the few buyers they found were offering them like $25 per long box, regardless of contents.

That is the future of retro gaming. Within 10 years those cardboard boxes full of cheap NES games will return, and only the NIB, sealed, professionally graded games will have any value to collectors. Video games will probably crash worse than comics because the supply is so much higher and the products don't deteriorate as badly. There are still hundreds of millions of functional retro games out there.

>>5164327
In the words of Robert Florence: "Games are brillant. Don't collect them, play them."

>>5164293
There's plenty of books with low-printing nobody give a shit about. There's no reason your average run-on-the-mill NES game or whatever should cost more.
It's not expensive because it's rare, it's expensive because there's a demand. And that demand is completely artificial.
>>5164327
>I see it as no different than the rise and fall of mainstream comic collecting.
This.

The only way we’ll ever return to pre-2005 prices is when the cancerous e-celeb “hidden gems” culture dies off. Unfortunately I don’t see that happening any time soon, too many people’s incomes depend on it.

>>5164408
Speculators are the worst. At a certain point actual gamers and hobbyist collectors will bow out and it will just be the speculators and resellers buying from and selling to eachother.

Friendly reminder that behind many of the "stop crying about the rampant price increases of old games" threads, there is likely an unsuccessful ebay reseller with pages of months old listings of very overpriced, even by current standards, videogames that he'll perpetually relist.

>>5164343
you mean the demand is great enough to keep the market existing. its not artificial if say 5th is all the craze right now but prices still remain for nes and snes. if that market lost interest in those games than possible the market has decreased in interest, but i believe people are still interested in nes/snes games and will continue to be for some time. especially since games are becoming more popular people will be curious about older games, although it may only see itself be popular being redistributed in online stores.

>>5164327
I fucking hope so. I'm not much of a collector myself and with the exception of the games I've had since I was a kid and the ones I've picked up here and there, I mostly just focus on getting the hardware, mods, everdrives, and so on. If, 10 years from now, all the old vidya prices burst and I'm somehow able to get really dirt cheap games again, I might start picking more shit up.

Until then, I got my everdrives and a stack of CD-Rs

>>5164343

Part of the difference between books and say NES carts is that it is possible to own EVERY cart for a single system. Some retard will pay say 20,000 and own an entire collection. It would be quite literally impossible to own every book ever printed in the English language.

Part of it is just the medium too, cartridges seem a lot easier to collect than say books.

Completionist collecting is a special type of autism. 90% of any system's library is garbage, and the larger the library, the more garbage and shovelware there is (see: NES, Wii, PS2). I can understand wanting the good games or the "culturally significant" games or even wanting certain bad games that have some sort of novelty to them (for instance, Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game for Saturn).

But I do not understand wanting every single piece of trash on a system.

>>5164038
Only suckers fall for the reseller shit when Flashcarts are the new thing for people that actually want to play games. These things will be like sports cards in 30 years when its on;y Zoomers left.

>>5164510
Im genuinely looking to downsize. It's just too much money investment to get games.

Then stuff happens like HD Remasters, so why would you keep your OG FF7, when you can play it on PC off of Steam?

There will be things I never get rid of. I am going to cull some parts of my collection for the sake of flash carts, and things like PS2 HDD's.

Fuck paying shit like 200 bucks for a Misadventures of Tron Bonne when it's on PSN for 5 bucks.

>>5164510
> These things will be like sports cards in 30 years when its on;y Zoomers left.
heh, good analogy. I think it applies to my generation, millennials, as well. I don't know anyone my age or younger who gives a fuck about cars at all as anything other than a way to get from A to B. I see boomers fawning over cars and it's just completely fucking alien to me.

>>5164506
Problem is it's the GOOD NES games that are expensive because of demand

>>5164537
But it's still going to be far cheaper to just buy the 50 really good NES that games that personally interest you as compared to needing to buy every single one of the ~800 games on the system.

>>5164327
Sort of like baseball cards. People forget there has to be a market

>>5164537
>Problem is it's the GOOD NES games that are expensive because of demand

The really good games sold well for the most part. When there are millions of copies out there the price stays low. The NES classic has a decent collection of the most popular games and most of those sell for only $10-$15 today if we are talking loose carts. Mario games, zelda games, metroid, final fantasy, Kirby, megaman 2, these are all cheap as fuck because they all sold millions.

Rule of thumb is that if the game was ever features on the cover of nitnendo power, the game will be cheap even today. Of course there are "hidden gems" that were not popular on release but few of the really good ones are excessively expensive. The original megaman didn't do as well in north america so it is one of the few that is actually selling for over $40 reliably. The hype for the series didn't arrive till MM2 (which is cheap as fuck).

All the really expensive stuff on NES is snowflake shit that no one ever saw on the shelf, let alone played. Only hoarders and completionists care about these.

>>5164052
it's the same shit most of the time. real hardware is almost always placebo

The vast majority of used games on the market are still way cheaper than their original MSRP. It is just poorfags crying that mint Chrono Triggers or Earthbounds costs double the original MSRP, they are the exception not the norm. For the guy who said old shit is worth nothing, clearly he's never stepped foot in an antique store or watched Antiques Roadshow. I sold a civil war daguerreotype photo for $3 grand alone.

>>5165730
>megaman 2
>cheap as fuck
Bullshit. I haven't seen a copy of that for less than $60 in over five years.

>>5165785
In EU it's around 20€, maybe even less. But most NES games are much cheaper here, except the ones from well known franchises (people thinks Zelda carts are made out of gold or something).

>>5165785

Tere are cheap ones all over ebay

>>5165860
Could be real. Could be a repro. Just not willing to roll those dice.

>>5165860
>>5165867

>DYLAN sharpied on the back

>>5165867

There are dozens of them on there, occams razor suggests most are legit. Sounds to me like you're just wanting a mint condition in the box with instructions for less than $60, that's a whole other market for things.

>>5165871
I'm not looking to buy one because I have my childhood copy. I'm just saying that any copies I've seen in the wild have been priced up the ass.

>>5165867
Do you think it’ll play different because it’s a repro or something? Or are you worried about MUH resale value

>>5165895
It's okay to not want a repro, anon.

>>5165907

Agreed but I find it funny people complain they can't find cheap games they just want to play and then they'll get all snobby if the game is missing the box or the plastic cartridge is weathered or whatever. As long as it plays who gives a damn, you get what you pay for.

>>5165869
not having a bottle of rubbing/denatured alcohol for this very purpose

>>5164327
Most collecting fads are like this IMO. It's basically the same for stamp collecting and art-deco furniture in my experience. There are a very few items which actually hold/increase in value due to rarity and condition, but by and large the market is a giant bubble of collectors just buying into a fad and FOMOing about "what it will be worth one day", and when the fad dies off people realize their shitty collector-released stamps or their mediocre quality 1930's coffee tables and dressers arent actually special and not museum worthy.

>>5165907
No it isn't, that's retarded

>>5165869
Tfw all my childhood games have my name sharpied on them. I just can't bring myself to clean it off.

>>5169747
Why did you do that? Had some thieving shitlord friends?

>>5169747

>>5169769
Not him but in my case I had a thieving shitlord stepmother
>write name on all my 64 games
>move out
>anon why are you taking my Nintendo and my games? Why did you write your name all over them?
>wtf this is all mine
>I've had all of this shit for like 2 years before you even came into the picture
>turns into a big argument
>dad forces me to just leave it all there and takes her side
I was like 13 at the time. I paid for most of those games with fucking lawn money. I will literally never forgive either of them. Don't care if petty.

Well that is the case in Japan, buying games and game hardware is cheaper there.

>>5169857
Roasties, not even once. She probably remember full well the origin of the games, but probably entirely convinced herself that she's somehow legitimately entitled to them by virtue of living in the house and marrying your dad.

>>5169769
Because I would visit my friends houses often and yeah a couple of them turned into theiving assholes, I remember getting into a fist fight at 6 years old over my neighbor for taking my DuckTales cart and writing his name on it claiming it's his.

>>5169701

This. It's a game. You put it in a system to play it.

Collectors are retarded.

>>5169872
Maybe 3 years ago, whittu piggu fucked that up now. While some are still much cheaper than in the west, most aren't.

>>5169874
>roasties
My ex-wife literally took a shit in my modded top-loader NES to spite me. But it's such an insane story that (logically) nobody believes me other than a few buddies that knew she was a horrible drunk.

>>5165785
https://www.pricecharting.com/game/nes/mega-man-2
At least do a basic search before you type

>>5164038
Emulation is free

>>5165867
>Could be a repro
you could be a retard. if you can't tell between repo carts and originals then you're fucking retarded or just started getting into nes software yesterday.

>>5165734
I mean I notice it for games that I am really familier with but otherwise you are right

>>5164414
there's always the next wave, man. low print run gen 6 games and le hidden gems are already shooting up in price. people can speculate on gen 7 all they want but with online-only, dlc, and dying optical media, who knows what the future retro game market will look like. I always like to cite the 2600. Look at all the anthology collections that are actually on retro consoles like the ps1 and gameboy of intellivision and atari games. There are not a lot of serious collectors for those games/consoles, but they were hot shit at the time. At some point, games become inaccessible to future generations and will not command the same prices. any europoor on this board will tell you in a second that most retro game discussion is dominated by japanese and north american console games... for now. Games had huge global penetration at the end of gen 6 so it will be weird to see what other countries find desirable or nostalgic.

As for where pre 2000 game prices are going, i think you will see classic titles remain steady and less desirable stuff will drop in price. It's already happening with the nes. mega man and zelda will always have a minimum price, but something like adventure island may drop back down to $5 because it just does not have the staying power/nostalgia even though the games are great

>>5164510
focus just changes. looks at pvms/rgb setups and audiophile type stuff for retro consoles. fpgas are cheap and accessible enough for hardware people to reach a market through flashcarts. CRTs and video/audio quality are becoming more and more scrutinized and there are more "aftermarket" mods than every before. thats where the money is going now.

>>5164327
chingchong repros will kill the market before that

>>5170506
>thinking the picture is of the cart you'll receive in the mail
naive

>>5164038
>>5164234

The most money sensible way to buy old games is from being a few years old to a few years after the death of the console. After that they start to rise again: When I was in college I bought Dual Strikes for 5€ and Dark Conflict for 4€ on cex because they were old and everybody was bothering with other DS games (and there was no 3DS in the horizon it was mid generation), past week I saw both for 15€ on cex because they're cult classics now.