/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[06-02] Colorful Hell test build release, notably overhauling ammo and pickup drops
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&start=645#p1056959

[06-02] BloodGDX to get multiplayer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlfBetb4QCI

[05-29] Anon-modified version of Steve's Flashlight for custom light offset
https://my.mixtape.moe/pkuika.pk3

[05-25] Champions 2.2 released, more performance friendly on large maps
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60456

[05-22] 20th Anniversary of Unreal

[05-22] ZScript tutorial: handling user input by creating a speed booster button
https://www.bitchute.com/video/h7CpDhKwp1bX/

[05-19] Demon Counter Strike 0.05c
http://static.allfearthesentinel.net/wads/demoncounterstrike-v0.05c.pk3

[05-18] More QCDE stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndYu4jTqbf8

[05-18] Champions v2.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60456&p=1052735#p1052735

[05-14] ZScript tutorial: create a monster duplication addon
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zuz0EZxygDuU/

[05-13] Datanon's extension of his first ZScript tutorial, an advanced example of turning DECORATE into more ZS style code
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4765556/#4769745

[05-13] Colorful Hell update to 0.931; a new optional hard tier and filling up more
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&start=615#p1053912

[05-11] Datanon's ZScript Tutorials
https://www.bitchute.com/profile/ObFVcYVZSoSQ/

[05-11] AMC TC Episode 3 Trailer
https://youtu.be/zjEbwtg2luo

[05-10] TTS sound effects, available through a download
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC4F9tQWKOU

[05-08] Deep learning AI generating Doom maps
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611072/ai-generates-new-doom-levels-for-humans-to-play/

[05-04] Champions, a compatibility-friendly monster variant mod, now 1.2
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60456

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Doom is meant to be played with this mod: https://www.moddb.com/games/doom/addons/doom-lowpoly-mod-v2

If you're not playing with this mod you're not playing Doom, but pixels.

/^323232323\.jpg$/

How long until EDay gets released? Anyone knows?

How great these PBR materials look on a custom E1M1. We need PBR materials for all textures and remastered maps with better lighting.

>>4814380
Soon.

>>4814363
Godly OP.

>>4813365
Are the files named track00x? If they are, remove the extra zero so it it track0x.

Hey /Doom/, what's your opinion on E4M2?

Might want to add this as a link for SC55 music. Sadly, no Hexen or Heretic music yet. http://sc55.duke4.net/games.php#

>>4814405
I always thought it was cool that it was a speedmap. Apparently John Romero started it at midnight one night and finished it at 6am.

What's your favorite DTWID map?

>>4814425
I didn't know that, that's neat

>>4814380
he's right, you know

Playing Ultimate Doom for the first time right now, what's the best keyboard configuration. Not using a mouse while playing.

>>4814405
That weird combination between frustration and fun, that's E4M2.

>>4814363
Trying to run Death Wish for Blood on GDX. Loads up fine and can play the levels, however, at the end of the first level there are supposed to be cultists with Tesla Guns that you kill to defeat the giant gargoyle. They're not spawning in. Pic related is my file config. What am I doing wrong?

>>4814405
I wish you could start it with a super shotgun. Killing all those cacos at the start with the regular shotgun can get fairly tedious.

>>4814473
You can get a rocket launcher in the previous level though, or you could just rush past them all and get the BFG through the wall

>>4814376
>>4814397
The nudoom classic remade maps look better than this shite

>>4814492
Please don't respond to him. (You) withdraws are pretty funny to watch, and thread-long arguments and bitching are not.

Is there a weapon mod that ports dark forces or even jedi knight weapons to doom? I'd love to see a rail charge in sprite form.

>>4814363
i need a
> dsparil
> but also dsparil

>play all of quake 1 sitting
>play it again but find all the secrets
is there a better feeling?

>>4814554
doing it on nightmare

>>4814379
The UAC doesnt care about range. They assessed most combat would be taking place at close quarters or down hallways, and if they had ordered custom stuff based on info about the hell dimension they would've known demons like to get up close. Thats why I suggested the pistol and chaingun probably fire 10mm magnum.
> They could have gotten away with using slow armor piercing flechettes, yknow Nailguns.

For an AGL the belt feed does not have to dictate that its fully automatic. Rotary GLs are semi-automatic and having a belt feed means you could be running around with a magazine of 30+ at a time, popped off one or two per second.
By the time the UAC had come around id expect we'd have upgraded explosives and the necessity of keeping the 40mm type we use right now would be just for vehicles only (hellhound rounds plus explosives with 5-10x the yield).

Figured this is why the doomguy can carry 50 rockets in his standard backpack. Because they're nowhere near the size they look like, probably 25mm rockets which can still explode for crazy damage because this is like OCP-grade military hardware. The decision to use rockets over conventional grenades is a range issue, in case they ever had a problem with range, since rockets have a flat trajectory.

>that OP
Reminder that the Heresiarch was the true second Serpent Rider and Korax a glorified and overpowered Serpent, the end of Hexen was the result of a rushed and improvised design decision.

>>4814574
>Korax is just a mount
Reminder that Eidolon doesn't look like Heresiarch, too.
>in b4 red skin and muscles
>Whoa, so much in common!

>>4814610
You seem to be confused about cause and effect
It is obvious that the prior entry modified "lore" was taken into account, and not the one that shouldve been originally.

>>4814574
Makes sense. I always wondered how a guy like Korax would be able to ride a serpent.

>>4814682
A bigger serpent.

>>4814737

The Hexen 2 manual confirms this. Korax's serpent is gigantic.

Screenshot Saturday, post pics or vids of the maps and mods you've made this week.

Any good city themed maps for doom?

>>4814574
I remember reading a very old doomworld post where it was linked to a interview with one of the devs of Raven Software where he talked about this, how the Heresiarch was the original Korax but later it was scrapped to a mid boss due the fact that in the end it was too similar from the first game and how they were worried of being too repetitive, so they created the current Korax to bring something unique to the table.

>>4814784
Hellbound and Hell Core is the first one which comes in my mind for now.

The Ultimate Doom? More like the Epic-est Fail!

>>4814789
Not the post that I was looking for, but here's a confirmation, it was asked to Ken Hoekstra, one of the devs of Raven Software, he confirmed that the Heresiarch was the original Korax before the final version of Hexen

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/24666-heresiarch-scrapped-2nd-serpent-rider/2/%7COk,

>>4813989
all the skyboxes didn't work out sadly, very visible seams.

>>4814775

>>4814784
Doom 2 Reloaded

>>4814775

>>4814880
Squarebox: The Boxination

>>4814405
A cruel bitch of a level with a hard start.

>>4814405
It's nice.

>>4814817
What's this wad?

>>4814775
A little weapons mod, something im calling
Weapons For Smooth Doom

Its mostly about quick firing weapons or guns that act more like the ones in quake (quake guns fire quickly). Dunno who made these but ive made quite enough tweaks and personal touches.

Definitely a gameplay altering mod but I dont think the balance would be tipped any, with the exception of slightly lower ammunition capacity.
The way im handling higher fire rates regarding stunlock is randomly shooting some shots that use a puff that wont inflict pain.

For the record id also like to plug the Projectile Upgrade I made for smooth doom recently:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=45550&start=1470#p1055309

>>4814737
>>4814740
> A bigger serpent

We have the name for the next doom general thread. It can use this image:
>>4814574

>we can now use Half-Life and Unreal Tournament weapons almost perfectly accurate in Doom
what a year

>>4814363
>Finally, finished really long and amazing custom map after soooo many tries
>Next map is Underhalls

It makes me giggle everytime

Any of you people have maps that are like dreams? I don't know how describe it. The maps are like houses or places that look like dreams.

>>4814970
something i'm working on

>>4815028
dun dun
tik tik tik
dun dun
tik tik tik ting

>>4815028

Same, I'm easily amused and it makes me laugh a bit.

>>4815028
> roll up to the second level with 60 rockets + launcher, 520 cells + plasma and bfg, 180 health + armor, and a killcount of 400+ including every single enemy type several times over

>>4815013
More specifically:

Bullets max capacity 300, they cause 1d5 x 3 damage (just like zombies). About 1/3 of shots dont cause pain.
-- Pistol fires every 9-10 tics
-- Chaingun fires every 3 tics
-- Chaingun altfire every 2 tics with a spinup and up to 50 shots before a cooldown.
The backpack will boost max bullets to 500.

If you're close to the enemy all the shots with the Pistol inflict painchance and they get +3 damage per hit (because of point blank accuracy and because its a defensive weapon). Chaingun altfire is the chaingun's special ability so it doesnt do anything fancy up close.

Shotgun shells max capacity 96. Damage is 6 pellets x 2-14 points per pellet. So about 50 points per blast. Shotgun fires every 20 tics. Only five pellets from each blast cause painchance.

The SSG is an auto shotgun that looks like the D64 pump action. It replaces the shotgun on pickup, and fires every 10 tics recoiling straight backwards like the Q1 shotgun. Only 4 pellets from each blast cause painchance.

Rockets max capacity will be 64 and they cause about 150 damage each, RL fires twice per second and has an altfire that launches ballistic arc rockets (no bounce though).

Cells max capacity will be 32 but each cell is like a cartridge loaded into the weapon that provides internal charge. Thus no cells wasted.

>>4815036
Oniria? Shrooms?

>>4814363
Is mouse look recommended in Doom 64 EX? Or is it too far from the original experience?

How does one play Wolfenstein? Please spoonfeed. No mods or anything like that? Or DOOM mods that simulate Wolfenstein?

>>4815036
I think the term youre looking for is "surreal". Tried IMPOSS.wad yet?

>>4815167
Use ECWolf to play it.

>>4815140
what mods are you running here?

>>4814970
>>4815068
>>4814775

>>4815267
and there's a nasty surprise

>>4815140
>This blood is delicious! slurp slurp

>>4814363
Is it physically possible to play the Doom RPGs on a PC? Like has someone converted them over or done a fan-remake, or whatever?

Quake tbvqh.

>>4814775
>>4814367

Over memorial day weekend I made a silly proof-of-concept thing about golfing. A couple friends liked it and made some suggestions about how to improve things. So I did.
Works in Zandronum, ZDoom, and GZDoom.
There's only like four maps so it's good for only about an hour of playtime, but it was a fun diversion over the weekend.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ydq21epk61z1226/hellshots_golf-alpha03.pk3?dl=1

>>4815315
i love you

>>4815196
Is ecwolf the only option? Nothing more dynamic?

>>4815350
ECWolf is the only worthwhile source port I know of. You could also just play the game through DOSBox.

>>4814367
Doom Tournament WIP released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60759

Well, at least that one mod pack russian boy is shilling helped me confirm that a recent model fix I opened a PR for doesn't break even with cheap quality model packs.

>>4815369
I re-tagged it as Pre-Release now that it's completed.

>>4815382
damn I meant to say "feature complete" there

>Douk sticks a pipebomb up the vagina of the alien final boss killing her and ending the specific alien species

Noob here, aside from doomseeker, what are some good ways to find servers?

>>4815434
hwat an mes

https://twitter.com/tonygig/status/1003037616927854592

>>4814775
owned lol

>>4815484
Gosh diddly darnit who spilled grape juice everywhere

>>4815315
You should take this shit and run with it, a full episode of Doom style golf courses, each level taking some inspiration from the episodes/cours of the original iwads.

>>4815550
Uh oh

>>4815315
Needs the HUD face in one of the corners, where it reacts to what you do, like the OUCH face when you land in a sand pit, and then the pain face every time a stroke fails to get you out of said pit.

Probably also the grinning weapon pickup face when you get it in the hole.

>>4815550
i imagine a shrunken cyberdemon's rockets to explode on duke's knees with minimal damage and fireworks in red white & blue

>>4815484
i pray every night that the movie doesnt suck

Just saw Ready Player One.

Did any of you talk about the fact that the FPS planet in the Oasis was called planet DOOM?

>>4815592
no
go away

>>4815592
Didn't read it, didn't see it, don't care.

>>4815595
>>4815602
Well, damn okay. didnt know you guys didnt like the movie.

>>4815484
That looks pretty gosh dang neat

>>4815595
who shat in your cornflakes

>>4815282
Emulation is possible.

>>4815592
>FPS planet
what

>>4815581
Also needs one of those golf caps.

>Serpent: Resurrection
i hate the feeling of seeing something somebody clearly put a ton of effort into but still turned out to be absolutely terrible

Can anyone advise me on a good mod that's not too over the top, yet fun to play?

>>4815794
How much vanilla do you liike in your mods?

It took me 8 months to realize that the editable vertices appear when you triangulate the sector

>>4815803
what do you mean triangulate sector

beautiful...

How The Fuck Is A Cyberdemon Like Nigga Just Strafe Slightly To The Left Lmao

>>4815813

I was about to do this with Plane Aligns

>>4815821
I wouldn't mind having that in a level.

>>4815825
That's why I make his rockets super fast and super powerful, so he's harder to dodge, and even if he doesn't hit straight on, a near hit hurts BAD, and it really sends you flying; that single second you're trying to move and turn in response to that, trying to reorient and get your footing, you BETTER have kept moving or gotten behind cover, because that second rocket is already on its way and it'll kill you.

>>4815847
this sounds like it breaks maps

>>4815825
id watch a doom lp by tyler

>>4815853
Some maps will become harder for it, yeah.

>>4814775
It's Sunday for me already but nah.

I managed to make a Boss Health Bar that works via SBARINFO, works like a charm with interpolation effects on it.

DOOM IS COOL

>>4815315

>>4815574
Knee Deep in the Rough when

>>4815315
MOCKAWARD'S NOT DEAD

>>4816052
>>4814363
>>4815315
now all we need is a fully functional mario party doom wad for multiplayer

>>4816052
Hell I don't see it as a mockaward, this is genuinely great.

>>4815315
This is incredible.

>>4815338
>>4816068

Th-thanks.

>>4815574
>>4816045

Making some maps out of the existing Doom maps should be pretty fun.
Doing a Go2It-style mashup of UDoom maps could provide a lot of entertaining possibilities, I'd imagine E3M1, E3M6 , E2M8, E1M3, and E1M1 could be mashed together handily.

>>4815581

That's...actually a really good idea.
I don't think A_SetMugshotState is supported, but the ACS command should be. There's a lot that could be done with SetMugShotState and a couple custom sprites.
I like that a lot, thank you!
I think it's Zandronum-compatible, too.

Does Unreal Gold work fine on Win10?

>>4816125
GoG version should work ok.

>>4816125

download the community patch

I could probably get an answer on Google in 5 minutes but I'll ask anyway.

Are there any Duke 3D user edits of the original levels but with added detail? A sort of fan "remaster" if you will? I mean keeping the level design intact but just adding more visual elements and shit like the Devs wanted but couldn't due to limitations at the time?

Also are there any good remakes of levels from other FPS games like maybe Goldeneye or perfect dark or shit like that?

So, I'm new to Doom.
I've recently played ZDOOM 2.8.1. Is this version faithful to the original Doom? Is being able to aim up or down ever relevant or required to progress?
Doom has a vast modding scene and I want to enjoy it but I feel I cant enjoy until I play all of the original games as close to vanilla as I can.

>>4816148
>Is this version faithful to the original Doom?
not very, zdoom's prowess lies in its modding strength rather than accuracy

>Is being able to aim up or down ever relevant or required to progress?
no

if you want accuracy, then chocolate doom is a nearly 1:1 accurate recreation of how the original doom was done

>>4815164
If you mean aiming up and down maybe

An Underwater Doom with Sea Demons would be pretty cool.

>>4815796
Meh I don't mind if a lot is changed. Just something that's good and not ridiculous.

>>4815785
>Serpent: Resurrection
It had some fucking abhorrently bad shit like every jumping puzzle, with it's modified jumping physics, but a lot of good things too.
If you want the true "High effort RPG-style total conversion, unplayable trainwreck" -experience try Inquisitor 3. Horrible encounter design, horrible enemies with unavoidable attacks used without warning, horrible performance drops.

Will they cast Drew Carey for the Doom movie?

>>4816271
forgot pic

>>4815140
Looks like someone imported UT99 weapon models into Doom. Care to share?

>>4815592
>If i Throw In Enough References it Would Make me Popular: The Book: The Movie
and
>Some Day My Extensive Knowledge of Pop Culture Will Bring Me Success: The Premise

Both the book and the movie are very stupid cringeworthy basement dweller wish fulfillment fanfiction

>>4815785
Check out PRODOOMER.
It is clear that there was a ton of effort put into it, but its author sat in the echochamber that sang him praises for effort he put, not for results he got. So it's got years of effort put into polishing a turd.

>>4815685
How? I can't find anything online about this.

>>4816324
We have a Doom RPG link in the OP, but i think i heard you need Java

>>4814363
I've heard that this is REALLY buggy. How true is that? And how does the expansion compare to the base game?

>>4816324
Just download KEmulator

>>4816326
Honestly, with all the tips and patches, official and un, I could never get the game to run long before crashing.

>>4816326
I played GOG version and had no problems on Win 7.

>>4816326
Blood 1 is one of my favorites
But I've never been able to play Blood 2 to completion
The first time I installed it I had the worst experience, I must have missed some essential items like the shotgun because the game was tough as nails and required savescumming.
After all the crashes and issues I just dropped it at the sky level.
Whenever I try to come back to give it a second chance even with the fixes and patches it just crashes.
I've tried it on multiple OS's and it always crashes.

Probably one of my least favorite games in existence because for as much as I want to I just can't finish it because it's either too boring or too buggy.

>>4816380
Doesn't Blood 2 run on the JUSTtech engine like AvP2, that has a main strength of not being able to properly function on any machine ever.

>>4816326
If any game ever needed a remaster...

it has been a year since the last version of metadoom came out and kinsie is interested in getting back at it
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&start=1305

>>4816392
It'd be Dark Forces 2

>>4816449
No
TimeSplitters 2 PC would be it

>>4816454
>Homefront sequel nobody wanted has a TS2 demo easter egg
>It works natively on modern hardware
>But for some reason Crytek UK has no intention of actually porting Timesplitters to anything and just leaves shit to a fan project in development hell

I'm still mad.

>>4816484
We just can't have nice things.

>>4816392
it's doom

Which map in any of the DUMP mapsets had the holy water pistol?

Any wads with shorter maps than Coffee Break, Zone 300, and Crumpets?

>>4816326
https://youtu.be/sweAQl3VEkI

>>4816536
congestion 64

>>4816326
I don't recall it having many bugs playing the GOG version on Win 7 some years ago. The only issue I have with the game is how stupid the difficulties are. Easy is super easy, Normal is inferno super mega hard, and well, Hard is purely impossible to play.

It has a very unique atmosphere, though, and level design is good.

>>4815794
The current FOTM is High Noon Drifter.

>>4816519
Its random, isn't it?

>>4816561
what is fotm

>>4816181
Ocean 2020?
But seriously, I don't quite see it. It's just Doom but with ability to "fly" at will, and underwater currents instead of wind.

>>4816595
Flavor of the month.
You don't play dotalikes often, do you? It's a very popular concept there.

>>4816604
The only online games I play are Doom, Guilty Gear and Warframe.

>>4816607
[Spoiler]Now that the rework machine is running at full speed, Warframe has fotms, too.Like how Chroma was the top Eidolon hunting boi, and how Saryn was top onslaught girl.[/spoiler]

>>4815880
Problem is, most mappers try to compensate for the cyberdemon's weaknesses in various ways, usually making even a vanilla fight tough as nails. Suddenly making the missiles superfast would completely break maps that expect you to fight them in very heavy close quarters.

A similar problem happens when people try to make Barons a lot deadlier.

>>4815581
And if a hole in one is achieved, have it show the God Mode face

>>4815581
>Out of bounz. Wan stwoke penohty.
>ERRUGH- ERRUGH HEHUH

Anyone have a download for latest version of DarkXL?
The XLEngine site went the way of the dodo and no downloads are available.

>>4816148
Use either Crispy Doom or Chocolate Doom. Those are the most vanilla sourceports.
Also, just find a way to get the iwads for free, the original developers dont get your money anyway.

>>4816680
I hate when weapon mods try to balance unique enemies too. It makes most maps broken and unbalanced. I like mods like High Noon Drifter and Space Pirate, for example, because all they change is the combat for the player, not the enemy attacks.

Can anyone namedrop me some good map packs?

>>4816717
Okuplok

>>4816716
True. And when the mod makes things too easy, just play on a harder mapset.

>>4816680
I know, but that makes it more exciting and intense.
Also it's not like you don't have some really means at your own disposal.

As long as you keep running/strafing, he won't hit you, but you gotta pay mind to your surroundings, so you don't catch on something, or the explosion isn't too close to you.

Hey dudes,

I have some limited experience making maps in vanilla doom2 format. How different is working in UDMF? Are doors/teles/lifts/etc. generally the same? Is it easier to work with? I know for instance that you can offset flats, unlike in vanilla.

I see a ton more options and you can do a lot of fancy things, are there good video tutorials I should watch or would just reading about it on a wiki be enough to figure it out?

>>4816632
That's not a very spoilery spoiler

>>4816747
>>4816748
>doomguy: demon hunter
I like this idea but it looks very rough

>>4816762

>>4816747
>>4816748
if this is a serious project, can you not use vertical walls and make some smooth hills instead?
I mean, is that supposed to be Mars?

>>4816830
>>4816842

I'm just making shit in my memebook, can't do anything serious with it

I need to study how to use the turok models but yeah, I imagined doomguy walking on the surface of mars, so, no jungle here... that makes me think, are trees capable of growing on doom mars?

anyway, I imagined doomguy going through mars surface, some techbases here and there, still studying how to transform Treetop Village, maybe a hell level and finishing in a demon castle or something

>>4816716
>>4816778
Personally, I love that stuff, it makes up for more powerful weapons.

>>4814363

>>4816943
cool
what are you working on?

>>4816961
unfortunately this project is in a box, it's a raspberry pi attached to a microamp that powers the original speaker for the novelty radio that has been shifted to be behind the composite display.

My skills of plastic cutting are insufficient, my soldering is decent enough to finish that at least. These radios are like $20, so if I cut up the plastic to house the Raspberry in the "tower" area underneath, and it looks like shit, then I have to get another one for another $20.

>>4816747
>>4816748

>>4816747
>>4816748
I recommend toning down a bit that red

>>4816747
>sector trees
Please no
They looks so shitty and cheesy every time, even if you use slopes and shit

>>4817015
>realistic mars
please dont

>>4817075
I think they look comfy af

>>4817075
They're charming.

>>4817075
I think that that particular tree can be perfectly modeled with sectors, I mean, look at that, it gets lost into infinity

>>4817075
sector trees are good when it's like ghoul's forest or phocas island where they're these giant towering things that make up the level geometry. sector trees for decoration, yeeahh kind of weird

>>4817095
it doesn't need to be red 255 0 0 with brightmaps on, anon

>>4817075

I'm looking at how to use the Turok models, which leads me to ask again, are there trees on Doom Mars?

>>4816747
>>4816748

>>4817164
>>4817169
Now this is comfy as fuck to look at.

>MicroSoft acquiring GitHub
How will this affect Doom mods there?

>>4817075
i will fight you.

>>4817228
They all have to be Doom95 compatible or they'll be removed.

does anyone know where I can get Doom Touch for free?

How do you all feel about Psychophobia?

>>4817282
it's the epitome of the worst of zdoom modding, it's what happens when you give a ton of freedom & resources to very misguided people

>>4817282
reminds me of all of ermin's/zygo's mods: lots of graphical fanciness without any solid direction and backed by shitty gameplay

>>4817295
>>4817301
I honestly asked because I found I had the soundtrack downloaded from somewhere, and it was kind of nice, so I was wondering if it was some cool episode I forgot about.

>>4816454
>TimeSplitters 2 PC

Does this even exist?

>>4816352
>>4816369
>>4816380
>>4816392
>>4816537
>>4816553
Thoughts on The Nightmare Levels expansion pack?

a lot of people hear HUH when ranger jumps, but I could never unhear FUCK

it still haunts me to this day

>>4817452
oh god, screw you.
screw you.

>>4817452
My brother swears he hears a woman saying HUH instead of a dude.

>>4817452
I'm trying and I can't hear FUCK at all. More of a HOOH than a HUH, really.

>>4817452
oh my god fuck you

>>4817458
HUH yourself!

>>4816820
All the basic stuff is the same with more options. The more options are more complicated but unecessary. You have less hard limitations, so I'd say overall it's easier.

>>4817316
Was cool to see a classic Blood level in 3d,

>>4816747
>>4816748
>>4817164
>>4817169
>tfw T-Style: DITM stopped updating

so much for these techbase

>>4817524

god damn it, that's exactly what I want to do

there is nothing new under the sun

Any wads that have levels more in the style of Blood or Duke with more real world type locations?

>>4817631
City Of The Damned: Apocalypse

What happened to that dark souls/bloodborne mod some anon posted about on here?

>>4817680

>Play first Turbocharged arcade
>neat hilarious concept levels
>Play second turbocharged arcade
>It's a buncha shitty minigames.

>>4817692
>second turbocharged arcade
The one with the secret Kate NPC in it, too... R.I.P. :(

>>4817680
>>4817694
is this even playable?

>>4817753
yes

>>4817757
>>4817694
>Astigmatic doom

>>4814363
I want to make a temporary zantrodom coop server. Is the port forwarding that hard to do? I have the zan wiki instructions I just haven’t tried yet

>>4817868
Just use the sentinel's playground and you don't have to worry about all that shit.
https://allfearthesentinel.net

>>4817876
Thanks for the tip. Does it require some sort of account to be made?

>>4817881
Yeah. It takes like 2 minutes to make an account.

another abandoned mapset. we'll try this again another time.

>>4817316
Too short, otherwise was fun.

>>4817906

>>4816537
This is pretty cool.

>>4817631
Monster Hunter ltd

>>4814363
gimmie some feedback

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/bc

With the EU about to implement Article 13 to fuck up the internet, how will this affect european Doom fans?

>>4817946
it won't

not retro

go to /pol/

What are some Quake usermaps in the style of the original campaign? I've played some and so far some are good, but none of them have really felt like OG Quake.

Anyone got any recommended "bite size" Quake maps? I wanna play something before I go to bed and don't want to begin trudging through a monstrous mapset or one of those 3-hour single levels.

>Hexen 2
>Thysis
Jesus Christ. I was enjoying the game up until this point but this hub had some seriously bullshit puzzles. For example, you get told that this wheel of ages (basically some kind of astronomical dial) needs to be turned "2 steps away from Gemini". Could be 2 steps forward, could be 2 steps backward. The thing is, it needs to be turned to the proper place in two different time periods. Okay, so that creates some backtracking required if you don't happen to guess if it should be forwards or backwards the first time. But the thing is, it's not that simple. The wheel as it is in ONE TIME PERIOD must be 2 steps back, while the wheel as it is in OTHER TIME PERIOD has to be 2 steps forward. The amount of time (mainly spent wandering back and forth through empty levels) was fucking infuriating.

Anyone have a hint on what this alphabet is? Looks like a square alphabet used by Lewis Carroll, which would be a great pun, but there's characters in this that aren't in that.
Also, don't just give me the answer. Just tell me what it's using, or if there's a code in the level that tells me the cipher

>>4818034
Wait, maybe I am supposed to just crack it from hints. This will be interesting.

Is it me or does a song from Heretic have a piece of melody similar to that one Gorillaz song where theyre getting chased down by Bruce Willis?

>>4817956
Play some speedmap packs.

https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/?filtered=speedmap

There's a fuckton of them, but i recommend the latest "sm" packs (+ Castle Kaahoo).

>>4814376
Where does that fucking sun shine from? There is no light source for that ridiculous blinding glare.

>>4814397
>>4814376
It looks like shit. For starters, because it's red, blue and BROWN. Ask any person who's familiar with color theory, those are NOT colors that match together.

It looks like fucking vomit. You'd need to completely rework entire level - for example, this room would need to be JUST red, and remove the blue wall, make it black or grey instead.

Original Doom uses grey walls because grey is a neutral hue, so it's just red and blue, which look great together (see: Spider-Man or American flag). But once you add ability for light to tint the walls, you end up with an unpredictable mess (here- grey becomes brown).

You DO realize that modern games have an entire person on the team, or even several, whose ONLY job is making sure the lighting looks right in every context? They're called Environment Lighting Artists.

You're insane if you think you can just SKIP a job that normally requires a person with a graphic design/3d modeling degree to sit for weeks for each level, each wall, and each angle.

And yes, if someone asks - lack of a person keeping track of lighting is why all these shitty indie Unity games look like fucking crap. You can buy good models and good textures off the Asset Store, but your lighting will still look amateurish.

And good lighting is especially important for darker and moody games, like horror games, or, oh wait... FUCKING DOOM.

>>4814380
I love mods that I can't play with some random mapsets for no other reason because the mod is so broken.

>>4814405
Unironically my favorite map among any vanilla map. I love how it uses the platforming mechanics in creative ways, but doesn't actually make said platforming unforgiving. Generally, it has extremely creative setups, and it's probably the most "three-dimensional" map in Vanilla Doom 1/2.

The fact that it's probably one of the hardest vanilla maps, if not THE hardest is kinda ironic, I guess, but I like it despite that.

>>4818067
R-Retard!

>>4818071
>The fact that it's probably one of the hardest vanilla maps, if not THE hardest
And all that without boners and ayys!

>>4814534
Look up Wardusted. It can even change enemies to Dark Forces enemies and even comes with a Star-Wars themed texture pack.

>>4815036
Try Lithium and Strange Aeons.

>>4814380
I like it when people treat BD as an underdog that gets so much shit and not one of the most overrated/hyped mods ever, that is like a list of half of what's wrong with modding and is often pushed as an official Doom game and had people lying about Romero's stance on it

>>4815036
along this same comment, any vaporwave wads out there?

>>4817120
The answer to your question is no, trees only appear on Earth in Doom 2, and in hell in Doom 1.

Actually, first Doom doesn't take place on Mars, first Doom takes place on Mars' moons, Deimos and Phobos. They are too small to hold an atmosphere, and Doom novels mention that the moon bases are under a clear plastic dome and located near a gravitational singularity (which gives these areas Earth-like gravity).

Mars itself only makes an appearance in Doom 3 and Doom 2016, and neither have trees on them (in Doom 3 it's actually part of a larger joke where they accidentally shipped chainsaws to a planet with no trees).

>>4814376
>Devs should hire this guy!

>>4815036
Beyond Reality gives me that feeling. Like playing a whole slew of Doom clones right before bed, and then having a dream that's a weird mixture of all of them where things aren't quite as they should be.

>>4818067
>I love being salty at mods that are more impressive and fun than my CoD weapon replacement mod
also, BD was made for EDay and vanilla Doom, so I don't quite get your """"""argument""""""

>>4818131
That's a lie. For starters, why does Mark have playthroughs of wads other than vanilla and ED on his youtube channel? And why does he include special features for fanmade mapsets, like adding vehicles to Epic? You're full of shit.

And even if this was true, what is the fucking point of a gameplay mod that only lets you play vanilla maps and a SINGLE megawad? That's asinine. That would turn Brutal Doom into a small curiosity at best, something that you can play three times and then discard.

And finally, noone fucking uses it like that. Most people who like Brutal Doom use it often for different mapsets.

Also what do you mean about "CoD weapon replacement mod"? Are you talking about how BD adds assault rifles and ADS?

>>4818142

>>4817524
>T-Style: DITM

do you have that .pk3?

>>4814376
>>4818120
I wouldn't hire him.

>>4817095
>Implying I haven't already

a long time ago
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=51873

>>4817953
the maps packed with quoth. Incredible re-imaginings of the first 3 maps of E1

>>4814363
Thoughts on Doom 3 and Quake 4?

>>4818226
Rancid trash and trash respectively.

>>4818226
BFG version + source ports, and dunno, respectively.

>>4815036
That anons rest stop mapset

>>4818206
My version has a couple performance fixes (no infinite length key glitter/blood), but otherwise should be the same as the last release.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/6413s9t41k3k1qt/T-Style%203_6_07.pk3

Big fog warning though, the mod makes heavy use of it to be like Turok, but (G)ZDoom's fog distance is nonadjustable and just envelopes everything.

>>4818303

>but (G)ZDoom's fog distance is nonadjustable and just envelopes everything

yeah, I realized that last night

>>4818307
The fog in gzdoom makes it look like an N64 game.

>>4818303
>>4818307
>>4818347
https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/fog-effects

>>4818347
No, it doesn't. N64 games actually have minimum and maximum fog draw distances, GZDoom's fog just starts at the player's feet.

>>4816413
Nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7aGKtQ-wlw
That twist really got me.

>>4818361
is there a kryptonite fog option

>>4818375
garbage

>>4818303
>>4818307
wasnt it an option at some point that was removed, same as adjustable dynamic light settings??

>>4816717
Lunatic, Ultimate Doom 2, Hellcore 2.0

>>4818375

this was in the related vids:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp2sj1mtc-Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4rW1a9kxN4
Finally a release date for Golden Souls 2!

>>4818436
Golden souls 1 was terrific, I'm excited

Though I still need to finish adventures of square episode 2

>>4818303
Honestly, it's much better with fog. Without fog, it's easy to realize that you're actually in generic barren Doom mountains with five trees plastered on it.
With fog, it really feels like a dense jungle.

However, fog makes hitscanners really dangerous, so if you want to hear suggestions for possible changes, I recommend adding some kind of short maximum range to hitscanner enemies, since currently you can occasionally be shot be enemies hidden in the fog, which is unfair.

If you do that, you can slightly boost their damage to compensate and preserve difficulty if you want.

My favorite thing to do is to drag the brutal doom file and the Goldeneye mod files together and play Brutal Goldeneye. The two mods play really nicely together and it really ratchets up the brutality when you are spraying blood and guts over clean russian hallways instead of equally gloomy marine bases.

I kind of want to develop it into a standalone mod called "Brutal Bond" that has other levels like the world is not enough and tommorow never dies missions.

>>4818465
This is how

>>4818470
Goldeneye

Does anyone else find the task of adding sector lighting extremely comfy?

>>4818472
was meant to be played

>>4818472
>>4818476
>>4818470
If you're trying to make a joke, the texture blurriness WAS a thing in the original. Goldeneye used extremely low-res textures that were filtered to hell and back, as all N64 games.

>>4818465
>>4818465
Honestly, I wish the Goldeneye mod either used 3D models or used properly made custom sprites. If there is one thing I dislike a lot it's low-poly models turned into sprites.

At least touch them up to look better or something, damn.

>>4817694
>>4817680
>>4817687
Its just troll posting.

But I think it should be a realistic feature for when you get low in health, like your vision is fading because of blood loss (a pulsing dark blue overlay would also go well with that, since thats what you see when you've got alot of blood loss). Kinda like when you get concussed in Fallout 3/NV.

I say under 34% health it should kick in. And under 10% health you shouldnt be able to run.

>>4817902
wtf is wrong with that sky

>>4817959
Silent Hill 2 on "Hard Puzzles" mode

Is there a mod that makes Hexen's campaign good? Or redoes it entirely to make it into a good campaign?

>>4818680

listen here u little shit

What works you done in the name your Lord and Savior today, /doom/?

>>4818160

>>4818680
BLOCKS YOUR PATH

>>4818698
You don't know how that meme works do you?

I feel like trying Project MSX some day
Is there a version that works on the latest GZDoom or at least Zandronum?

>>4818707
I'm more saddened by the fact that people still consider it a meme worth posting.

>>4818694
>>4818705
The hub system is terrible. Maybe it's just me. Maybe at the time there were a hell of a lot of dudes writing in to Raven saying "Heretic was AWESOME but what would really kick it OFF THE CHAIN (it was the 90s) is if you had to revisit each level three times to unlock one extra room with 3 imps in and a switch you will not see.". But that's what most of the game is. They don't even tell you what the switches have unlocked. You just have to blunder about. The levels are shit too. Nobody wants to go to a cave once, never mind three times. It's not even a cool cave with like, lava and skeletons and a hidden demon temple. It's just a regular cave. The monsters all wear northface clothes and want to talk to you about stalactites and quartz.

>>4818221
looks like shit desu
needs mars plants and fauna
which is why realistic mars is shit.

I know there's been questions before about different genders in the communities, but what about races? Are there any notable poc in the community?

>>4818448
heh nice

>>4818730
lots

romero is hispanic/native, marty is hispanic, term is black, mark is hue, there's a big asian following in the community (they made a community project you might have heard of), etc

and, hallefuckinglujah, nobody gives a shit about parading their race or heritage or whatever around

>>4818741
Kegan is a pygmy.

>>4818741
>(they made a community project you might have heard of)
What? I don't remember hearing of an Asian Mapset or whatever before.

>>4818743
JPCP, anon.

>>4818746
Okay but how do we know they were all asian?

>>4818436
nice

>>4818748
Anon, I...

>>4818746
>japan is in asia
oh, c'mon now

>>4818748
>how do we know japanese people are asian
it's a fucking mystery

>>4818748
get some sleep, anon, you're not thinking right

>>4818750
>>4818752
Ok sorry, I phrased that wrong. But what I mean is that someone not asian could live in japan and also contribute to the project.

I think I kind of got what Perfect Hatred is. I think.

I'll try to explain. It seems to be a very nasty and tough to crack trick, that's also very hard (at least, for me, now) to put into words.

Basically, I think that one of the defining features of Romero's mapping schticks is that he frames, let's say, himself-imitating-others as himself-imitating-himself, self-referencing (like, expressing his Style). So, let's suppose some map had a schtick Romero liked. What, I think, happened next? Next thing, I think, Romero IMMEDIATELY created a map that had a similar schtick, similar, but still obviously visibly different, so that not to be confused with the original map, and the purpose of that map was 1) to establish that Romero came up with a SIMILAR schtick SEEMINGLY independently - and, 2) to overshadow the original map by being, basically more loud and bombastic. Probably better realized and almost certainly better-looking too. Having established his own totally-not-a-slightly-modified-version-of-the-schtick-in-question, Romero then proceeded to exploiting it hell and back, presenting himself as (co-)inventor of that schtick, not as a person that simply copied it in a slightly modified form, all the while having that doppleganger as a cover-up, so that to have a convenient answer for the inconvenient questions tossed in his general direction.

Perfect Hatred is such a doppleganger for Hell Beneath, and its point, I think, is dropping McGee completely out of the equation for the future similarly styled Romero's maps.

Moreover, Perfect Hatred is a special level precisely because, if what I say is true, then Perfect Hatred is where this manipulation is the most glaringly obvious, almost to the point of being self-referential (especially considering that E4M6 has very clear """"PH"""" overtones to it already), "I know I am doing this: The Level".

>>4818741
you really just HAD to take it seriously, didn't you?

>>4818762
possible, but i don't think it's likely enough to really second-guess

>>4818769
i'm sorry, are we distressing you?

>>4818769
I was curious, fuck off hall monitor.

>>4818772
>I posted it again!

Fuck off. Seriously.

>>4818769
yes, i did

i'm not going to ignore or derail a perfectly valid question just because it makes you uncomfortable

>>4818773
No, you fuck off. We were having a fine conversation before you thrust your dick in.

>>4818776
>perfectly valid

Mods seem to think otherwise. And for good reason, too.

>>4818062
that's one titty weapon

>>4818718
Guys?

>>4818782
yes, because i'm sure you spammed that report button due to how it made you shake in your boots

you are the reason /vr/ has gone to shit

it was a normal question and we were having a normal conversation, and you had to shit on everybody and ruin the fun.
fuck.
you.

>>4818718
MSfixD

>>4818718
Someone was tidying up the mod but I don't know what happened to it. I guess you're SOL at the moment.

>>4818782
>And for good reason, too.
Explain what this reason was, because it was a normal-ass conversation before you went crying to the mods about it.
And use reasons other than "I didn't like it".

>>4818789
>>4818791
Does anyone else have it saved or a, link?

>>4818787
>you are the reason /vr/ has gone to shit

I'm not one of the people who vouched for faggots like Nambona or Sa'rais, so you're fucking wrong there.

>>4818793
Attempted /pol/shit derail.

>>4818796
>Attempted /pol/shit derail.
Good thing that didn't fucking happen, huh? I asked because I was curious, the only derailing happened from you.

>>4818797
>my question about race in a video games community, on fucking 4CHAN, was totes a legitimate concern guys!

Fucking brainless retard.

>>4818796
no, you're one of the people who think everything needs to be policed in order to prevent another nambona or s'arais

>>4818801
>concern
See also: Shit I never said.

Backseat janny is a retard, play some Doom.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

You know the drill, roll until you get a singleplayer level.
Load it up, play a bit, take a screenshot, post your thoughts.

>>4818815

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/d-f/drug_me
Opens up at the bottom of a pyramid, scale up and branches out across different areas across cliffs.
Bears the usual troubles of a '94 map, but it feels...grander in scope. Okay-ish. Worth a look/10.

oh baby

>>4818846
OH BABY A TRIPLE

>>4818846
are those wall ferns climbable?

>>4818801
it's funny how you praise the janitors for taking actions on a flamepost yet you instigate a lot more discontent than it being there at all.

you calling other people retards because they aren't getting their panties in a twist over a single comment like you are for instance is the icing on the proverbial cake.

Hay guise what's going on in he-
oh lawd.

>>4818858
The usual /doom/ shitflinging.

working on a hand model for that MSX/F.E.A.R inspired thing I'm working on. Got a new character rig that'll be a lot easier to work with. I'll probably do melee and throw animations first with this because that'll be satisfying.

On a related note, what if a grenade throw if used at melee range jammed a grenade into the target and pushed them away a bit?

>>4818874
>On a related note, what if a grenade throw if used at melee range jammed a grenade into the target and pushed them away a bit?
Demonsteele did something like this and it was fucking awesome.

I'm new to Doom modding, and I'm trying to make a mod where you play as a female character.

I get graphics (sprite and mugshot), however, I'm not sure what sounds I need to replace. Is DSOOF (the OOF action key noise) and DSPLPAIN (player pain noise) only voiced samples in Doom?

Or am I missing any?

>>4818879
Death scream.

>>4818763
Okay, I seriously don't get why people keep saying Perfect Hatred is similar to Hell Beneath. I've seen that opinion several times now. In what respect they're similar?
That they both heavily rely on small walkways covered in enemies? I guess technically, but they're also plenty different. For starters, Perfect Hatred has the center setpiece of the center of the map, the 3 islands with key-coded levers, where you will keep coming back to it to open new areas. Hell Beneath lacks something like that.
Perfect Hatred has heavy focus on platforming and running on damaging floors. Hell Beneath lacks that.
Perfect Hatred LOVES to use beefy monsters, especially Cacodemons, to limit player's retreat. In contrast, pretty much all monsters in Hell Beneath are relatively weak, except for like, one Baron? There are some demons, but they're designed so you can easily pick them off from a distance, while in PH you WILL get boxed in at some point.
Finally, Perfect Hatred is based entirely around giant cave areas, while Hell Beneath is based around almost claustrophobic, tiny outdoors hell castle.

I just don't get what are the big similarities. Am I missing something here?

>>4818881
OH! Obviously, duh. Thank you!

>>4818874
>>4818875
> grab nade
> punch dude
> flick wrist to drop nade at their feet
or if it's a sticky grenade, just give them a slap in the face with it

>>4818879

And DSNOWAY.

>>4818448
Square is the Duke Nukem to Chex Warrior's Doomguy.

>>4818742
I'm not short, dammit.

>>4818980
compact fuck

>>4818980
I bet you can wear shorts like regular pants.

>>4814363
I've only ever really gotten heavily into gameplay mods for Doom. I want to play some more wegawads and level packs.

What are some megawads and level packs that really feel like they've created/built entire WORLDS? They can be atmosphere heavy or totally redesign everything or use tons of original assets or they can be exactly like the feel and look of the original game. Doesn't matter. I'm just looking for some well made and interesting settings that are fun and/or impressive to experience.

OBVIOUSLY I MEAN STUFF OTHER THAN WHAT'S IN THE OP PIC.

>>4818980
look at this flower pot tarzan

>>4818854

https://zdoom.org/wiki/Ladder#The_Slimeinator.27s_Way

>>4818931
Huh, I genuinely didn't know this sound existed. It's identical to DSOOF, too.
Thanks, that saved me a lot of pain!

>>4819091
another day another set of blurry-ass pictures set in E2M8

>>4819091
well, how do you expect to dodge rockets without your glasses?

>>4818874
> exoskele gloves
wew

Okay, question.
I want to replace player sprites, but the regular method of simply having sprites named the same as the ones in the IWAD doesn't work. Do I need to create a new player class to be able to have custom sprites?

>>4819213

It should work, unless you're using a custom skin.
But yes, you can create a new player class that's essentially a clone of Doomguy but with different sprites/sounds, though that'll limit your mod to Decorate-based ports. But if you primarily use a Decorate-based port then it's not really a problem.

How can I make a piercing bullet without using +RIPPER nor A_SpawnProjectile that keeps angle and pitch constant after every hit?

>>4819014
why I keked at this like a retard

>>4819218
Well, it should work but it doesn't.

Can anyone take a look at my wad and tell me what I'm doing wrong?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yshheqidonfmae8/FemPlayerWIP.wad?dl=0

I'd look it up but for some reason, I can't find any tutorials about changing player sprites and stuff. Weapons sure, maps sure, but no player sprites.

>>4819253

Oh, the problem's simple. Actor sprites need to be between the S_START and S_END marker, and yours aren't.
It's a pretty common mistake, because it's not really that clear that you need to do that.

>>4814363

>>4819295
Oh, okay! Thank you! That did it!

This is literally my first mod ever, I'm mostly doing it as a warmup for a bigger mod I'm doing at the same time.

>>4818874
That sounds fantastic. I think another cool bit would be the option to just drop a grenade at your feet. It seems dumb, sure, but imagine the option to flee down a hall, and just casually drop a 'nade, count to three, then hear the screams and gibbing of those tailing you. would be fun for elevators and cliffs with nothing good to bounce off of. Just an idea.

>>4819352
I wish you luck!

Hey there my fellow brutal doomers! As the doom guy would say: GO FUCK YOURSELF! Haha, stay BRUTAL my dudes! \m/

>>4819453
>>>/v/

>>4818064
>>4818064
Based lighting poster

Who /shadesofdoom/ here? Having all this enemy variety is pretty nice. I'm liking it.

>>4814380
honestly the brutal doom hate has been the most overblown thing ever lately. It's not even that popular now, like shut the fuck up and don't play it

>>4819006
Ancient Aliens

>>4819424
I think that would require one extra key too many anon. Besides, some other throwable/deployable item like a proximity mine would be better in that situation.

Who is the girl in this picture?

>>4819546
Back off she's D'sparil's GF.

>>4819556
The impure harlot!

>>4819546
I found Waldo!

>>4819567
why is he black

>>4819546
>>4819556

That's a dude.
Remusu from Guin Saga.

>>4819609
>WOW THIS ANIME GIRL IS CUTE
>that's a guy

god damn it, every time

>>4819615
what have we learned today, anon?

Man Square Episode 2 was great. Can't wait for Episode 3. Especially because of that fucking cliffhanger.
I wonder what the level themes will end up being this time...

>>4819618
that traps are the new monstergirls

>>4814363
want to download shotgun frenzy for doom
>To download sfrenzy13_final.pk3 you must first log in. If you do not have an account you can create one for free

where do I download shotgun frenzy because the link on the wadaholics website no longer has it

>>4819546
>>4819556
>>4819609
I see D'sparil is a man of taste.

I'm installing Witchaven.

>>4819684
DOS or WitchavenGDX

>>4819698
DOS. I didn't know there was a source port of it.

>>4818846

I AM TUROK !

>>4815315
For a moment you got my hopes up this was some Spheda-style shit.

does anybody have that pic from that MS paint comic with the cacodemon being pet with the :3 face?
thanks

>>4819502
Still not as overblown as its praise

>>4819671
maybe try TSPG