/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4518254
plebs (mostly Americans) who can't appreciate Gabber.

>>4518420
This. Sick of fags whining about the soundtrack when it's fantastic, experimental, and reflective of where underground dance music was at the time. As atmosphere it's great, slowing down in emptier areas and kicking in when shit gets wild, Only thing bad about this game was the US version being a hackjob - and nowadays you don't have to play it.

My favorite character was Max, and he's not in 3, and there isn't a decent substitute for him either. I don't wanna be a dumb old man.

Literally nothing. It's the one SoR game that's halfway decent
shitters like >>4518521 will bitch and moan, but the fact is that the western release of 3 is the single SoR game worth playing if you're not an actual baby, or an arthritic old man

>>4518521
>experimental
I love it to but it wasn't this, it was as usual plagiarizing already existing styles of hard detroit techno.

>>4518420
Most of it isn't based on gabber though it's based on jeff mills/underground resistance brand of hard detroit techno, it is american.

>>4518420
>>4518521
t. hipster kid fresh from high school who think they're hot shit from throwing around some genres they've read on /mu/
Better stay quiet when you're ignorant.

>>4518528
>My favorite character was Max,
Why, are you gay? I always played Blaze.

>>4518603

> playing as the white male is easy and quick fun
> playing the woman is boring but you can claim the moral comfort of "balance"
> playing as the black guy or the huge gaylord is the most fun, challenging and rewarding experience

SoR2 mimicks real life, true videokino

>>4518616
Except being white is hard as fuck right now with all the demonization and double-standard morale

>>4518254
Decent game that was inferior to its predecessor, but still pretty awesome, gets turned into massively inferior game due to random gameplay changes in the non-Japanese release of the game.

>>4518254

Fuck Sega USA for messing with the original, fuck them up their stupid asses.

>>4518254
Try the Japanese version

>>4518619
It's not hard, just more annoying

>>4518521
There were people who didn't like SoR3 music? Fucking really? Glad I didn't know those people.

>>4518521
>experimental
nah
Koshiro was always the Kojima of vidya soundtrack, no real ideas of his own
listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5tiI-Je5o8

>>4518567
And what are these songs that Koshiro plagiarized for SoR 3? Considering that the songs were programmed with a custom randomized sequencer, I'm going to say you're meme spouting faggot.

>>4518724
wow I hate it

>>4518748
>custom randomized sequencer
now who's meming

>>4518748
I don't currently have individual sources. I meant generally.

>>4518758
You
For same fagging hard.

>>4518764
Right, so you have nothing but baseless conjecture. GG

>>4518758
You apparently
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streets_of_Rage_3

>>4518570
t. dumbass american who doesn't know that hardcore and gabber was popular in parts of europe at that time

>>4518724
everything sounds the same if it is as simple as original techno

>>4518791
>wikipedia
ok

>>4518254
Nothing.
It's a amazing game.

>>4518748
>Considering that the songs were programmed with a custom randomized sequencer,
yes a technique he took from the detroit tech of the time you fucking mong. Its not a secret what his inspirations were, same with manabu namiki.

>>4518724
mate nice share, robert hoods a beast, good luck getting /vr/s nerdling dork cunts to appreciate it though, these fucks experience everything in bedrooms through vidya that they're somehow still bad at.

>>4519094
>everything sounds the same if it is as simple as original techno
only if you have pleb ears.

>>4519094
>who doesn't know that hardcore and gabber was popular in parts of europe at that time
they were but sor3 still isn't either of those.

>>4518773
no idea why he replied for me, there was a forum with them listed which i can't recall, you haven't got to dig far though through detroit tech of 91-94 to find a ton that's clearly inspiration. Try goggling yourself for yoshiro talking about influences, it's out there somewhere, he was a techno fanatic as am i.

>>4518254
The (((localized))) it and changed everything. BK3 is hands down the best in the series and possibly the entire genre.
>>4518420
>Gabber
There is no gabber in SOR3 you fool.

>>4519516
What would you call this than?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qnt1GNFiRg&list=PL6akIKaXBeU2tDQ_noLTYwLrcTU-KxupT&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1EUvG1WdfI&list=PL6akIKaXBeU2tDQ_noLTYwLrcTU-KxupT&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTLiikdx2Yg&list=PL6akIKaXBeU2tDQ_noLTYwLrcTU-KxupT&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlSCYFjimu8&index=8&list=PL6akIKaXBeU2tDQ_noLTYwLrcTU-KxupT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BajRiVXGbwk&index=13&list=PL6akIKaXBeU2tDQ_noLTYwLrcTU-KxupT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IECkPLDEx-s&index=17&list=PL6akIKaXBeU2tDQ_noLTYwLrcTU-KxupT

>>4518254
It's the best of the trilogy. The only reason why American kids didn't realize it is because Ash was taken out of the game, and he was the most important character in the story.

>>4518420
>gabber

>>4519710
HAD JE WAT LUL?!

SoR2 was far more plagiarised than 3. Outright lifting The Shamen's Move Any Mountain for a stage. SoR3 sounds more original to me, interested if you can find direct comparisons.

Manabu Namiki takes the plagiarism cake though. See:
https://youtu.be/Nn10l3b--ds
https://youtu.be/hlYPoqOg8sc
and then the first two tracks of
https://youtu.be/dU4gDRQgzhE

Also:
https://youtu.be/pONIGdSLd1s
and
https://youtu.be/xQv3dCkY2Tk

>>4520426
Oh no, generic guitar riffs!
The Underground Resistance one is spot on though, it's even referenced on the title, Underwater Rampart.

>>4520426
>interested if you can find direct comparisons.
There are loads hoenstly, just go some digging on youtube through detroit records from the time.

>>4520430
Mate you're such a tard, these producers have openly expressed how they plagiarized all those tracks as it was there inspiration.

>>4520432
I know, the Underground Resistance is one is obvious, but the Cocobat track too? Source?

>>4519516
>BK3 is hands down the best in the series and possibly the entire genre.
Oh god here we go, it's a /vr/ easy game is best because im complete shit and can beat it. It's even to easy on very hard ffs and best in the genre? another cunt who can't beat a single arcade one am i right? It's not better than any cps/cps2 release or igs game.

>>4519536
>What would you call this than?
Nearly all of them are hard detroit techno especially cycle 1 and inga rasen.

>>4520446
>but the Cocobat track too? Source?
Thats the most obvious one! it's almost exact aswell... from armed police batrider boss music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn10l3b--ds&index=4&list=PLF3A65D4AC137B41E

It's literally a rip off, im a batrider player aswell btw so ive heard this shit enough times to have it brain engrained.

>>4520457
My problem with that it's that it's a fairly generic riff, it may be a coincidence. This is why I'm asking for a source.

>>4519536
The first one is berlin bunker gabber, the rest is detroit techno.

>>4519354
But that's not Streets of Rage 3

>>4520462
ive just given you one? its exactly the fucking same as the first track on the cockbat track, how fucking shit are your ears?

The soundtrack went wrong. It went so wrong that it may just be the worst videogame soundtrack in history - how many other soundtracks have ever been so bad that they've been widely blamed for the failure of a game?

It's technically impressive for the chipset, but at the end of the day it sounds like absolute ass if you're not into its specific niche genre, because to most people it's pretty much just random noise over the top of a melody, almost to the point of drowning it out.

On top of that, it's completely unmemorable. I've played through the game a dozen times and there isn't single song in it that I ever end up humming to myself. There's nothing that sticks in your head and goes round and round, nothing that gets you stuck into the gameplay loop.

>>4520532
>i'm a dumb pleb that has shit ears and is only culture enough to enjoy basic melodies that i hum to

Yeah you're just a daft cunt basically, not the devs fault they didn't realize they were far to cutting edge for the average dork gamer. I suppose you think adventures of batman and robin is a bad ost to?

>>4520562
>not the devs fault they didn't realize they were far to cutting edge for the average dork gamer.

Except it is the their fault. Their entire job was to create a product for a market, and they fucked up and created one for a niche of people into a weird genre that was popular for all of 20 minutes, and never got that big even at its height.

Your post is basically a bitter, holier-than-thou admission that yes, the soundtrack absolutely torpedoed the entire game. You just want to blame the players instead of the people who produced it for not being avant garde enough in regards to what they want to hear while pretending to punch punks and hookers in the face.

>>4520580
pleb, the ost fits the game.

I like the OST but in-game it's too fucking much and just overwhelms you. It legitimately becomes grating and exhausting after a while.

>>4520580
>into a weird genre that was popular for all of 20 minutes, and never got that big even at its height.
The fucking ignorance, detroit techno was big in the underground then, was exported to the u.k where it birthed literally multiple genres and movements and has become an absolute stable of music that pioneered massively, detroit tech is still very popular now you feral daft ignoramus burke cunt. Fuck me vr is next level for clueless dork scum. Even fucking rockstar games had detroit tech is a bunch of their games including san andreas and midnight club 1/2/3.

>>4520492
It sounds like the Cockbat track; my point that it sounds like a generic riff still stands, though.

>>4518724
Koshiro is a fucking fraud.

>>4519354
1) You play like utter shit.

2) You're playing the easy ass shit Japanese version.

3) You actually thought you were cool or good enough to record yourself.

Embarrassing.

The Cocobat tracks posted earlier in the thread have exactly the same progression, the first one only missing Batrider's RET'S GO, and the one Chop U rips off begins with exactly the same fricking brilliant drum solo, props to Cocobat's drummer. They're by no means 'generic guitar riffs'.

>>4521291
Okay then, Namiki confirmed CLIMINAL

>>4521235
nah he isn't it's just people don't really understand whay he's so impressive, it was never for the composition and always because he created his own programming language to make the yamaha chip sing and the sor osts possible.

>>4521223
my point that you have siht ears still stands also.

>>4518254
Music was shit and the game was very unbalanced.

>>4521304
This reminds me of the alleged Stratovarius reference in the Ibara soundtrack, this time by Shinji Hosoe; barely not retro, though.

>>4521240
Shit man, that's embarrassing, how can you be this pathetic?Are you from Resetera or something?

>>4518420
>>4518521
>>>/int/
Worthless scum.

>>4521313
He's British, which explains most of it.

>>4521318
t. american't handle the banter

>>4521313
You legitimately play like crap. If you're the retard who always praises SOR3 yet you play like /that/ then you and your arguments are fucking laughable.

No wonder SOR3 is considered such a shitty game.

No wonder SOR3 killed off one of the most popular SEGA franchises of all time.

>>4521587

>>4518254
Adding cyborgs to the plot especially a cyborg cop you can choose to play.

>>4518254
Everything. And it started with bare knuckle 1.

>>4518254
Nothing, is a really good game.
But nowadays you better playing Streets of Rage Remake. With guns turned off please.

>>4519354
Axel is so fucking clunky in 3 just lumbering around the screen.

Even though Skate's hand slapping special move is may be the worst special attack in history

>>4518420
>>4518521

>>4520532
>how many other soundtracks have ever been so bad that they've been widely blamed for the failure of a game?

Anyone who does that is an idiot. Whether you like the soundtrack or not, the game failed primarily because of WHEN it was released. The 16bit era was coming to a close and SEGA was eating its own market.

Now, in a pure "is this good or isn't it" sense, the gameplay had issues. There was a lot of polish in some places and a complete lack of it in others. You had loads more moves at your disposal, a weirdo "level up" system on your double tap forward + B special that loads of people didn't know existed because it kills the counter when you lose a life. Enemy AI that just wanders around keeping outside of your range then everyone decides to attack at once. The cheapest bosses to date, a hard time limit on a level that's a maze forcing you to grind your way back to it if you choose the wrong doors...
And of course, the fact that the Jap version had a proper story, cutscene artwork, better titles...

Sure, fun can be had out of it, but people get hung up on the soundtrack when it was the least of the game's issues.

One of the best songs to come from Streets of Rage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVosSeEpxYE

>>4521519
I'm a burger and I think SOR3 has the best soundtrack by far

>>4527448
you are alright