/vr/ - Retro Games

Well, I have 5 old playstations (all of which I've got for free over the years) so maybe this thing will create some demand for me to sell four of them them with.

>>2395231

I'm actually holding onto an old PS1 as well. Until now I've considered it to be complete junk because it can't read discs well, but since this doesn't even use the cd-drive it breathes new life into it. I'm so glad that I didn't throw it out.

You don't just plug it into your playstation and ti works. They revealed on their forums some time ago you will also need to basically mod chip the system with a kit they send you for the device to work.

>>2395237

Oh really? How hard is it to reach the solder point on a PS1?

I know with PS2 modchips it's a complete goddamn pain in the ass because there is so much shit you have to remove to reach the PS2's motherboard.

>>2395239
Probably not hard at all for someone that knows how to solder and such. I don't own a solder gun nor have any practice, so Im not too hyped about trying this out.

Been waiting for over a year.

this shit is inconvenient. as if old PS1 consoles get any cheaper on ebay and less and less in units as the years go by.

I'd rather just emulate since it doesn't cost anything.

I've been waiting for this thing for years, I still have 4 PS1 consoles waiting and waiting.

At least its about to reach 90%, so I guess it's something.

>>2395268

An original playstation on ebay is typically no more than 10-15 bucks, and I don't see any reason why that would suddenly spike up to a crazy amounts in the next few years. Hell, I had a playstation that worked extremely well but had a cosmetic problem, and I could barely sell that thing for no more than a few bucks (plus shipping), so there are deals abound.

>>2395483
>>2395268
The motors die on them frequently.

>>2395241
You can buy a cheap solder gun for like 5 bucks. Practice on any old broken piece of electronics you have lying around. You'd have to royally fuck up to actually break a PS1.

PS-IO has been in the works for several years and development is still ongoing. As far as projects for flash carts and optical drive replacements go, these guys are probably the most incompetent people around.

The main dev is capable, but has a tendency to come across as a bit of an idiot, constantly asking for simple advice from more experienced people. It keeps giving me the impression that the guy barely knows what he's doing.

The other dude behind the project apparently has some history with taking peoples money. I don't know the details but people were openly calling the guy a scammer for some unrelated reason a while back.

There are a few things about the project itself that I don't really like either. Between the money gathered for supposed beta access, the amount of time it has taken and the complete lack of transparency is rather unsettling.

I imagine the reason they only revealed that soldering was a requirement a few months back was because they only just realized that was the case. This leads back to them not really knowing what they are doing.

All that said, it probably will come out eventually.

>>2395531

I definitely see what you mean. When I read that they've been at it for five years it really made me start to wonder about how competent they are.

Granted, I don't think I could ever make such a device, but if you know your stuff, how could it take this long?

Anyone care to speculate how much one of these is going to be?

I've still got a working SCPH-5001 laying around that I wouldn't mind resurrecting.

> what is popsloader

>>2395237
Who gives a shit, you actually have to be retarded to not be able to solder, if you haven't used a soldering iron before it's a very handy skill to have anyway... You can pick up PS1s for dirt cheap so I don't see this being an awful project to start with

>>2395586
How accurate is popsloader? Besides that, some people want to play on their CRTs.

>>2395586
PSP stuff?

>>2395586

Popsloader is pretty cool. An official PS1 emulator for PSP and if you have a slimline PSP you can hook it up to your TV. As far as I know, it's certainly the best way to play your image backups until PS-IO comes out.

Does anybody know if you can play PS1 backups on modded PS3? I really don't know anything about the cfw PS3 scene since my slim-PS3 is unmoddable.

>>2395595
Mixed. The PSP contains the same physical CPU that the Playstation has, so it just emulates the other stuff. When stuff works it's almost indistinguishable from the real thing, but there a lot of games with issues from graphical issues to crashes with no workarounds. Some versions of POPs work better than others with some games, so there can be quite a bit of trial and error.

>>2395602
>>2395615
popsloader is also on ps2

>>2395491

I'd assume so, my first playstation I went through lasted about a year. The next one lasted me a good 4-5 years, and it actually still works, though you can tell it's having a little trouble running. This won't even matter however if the PS-IO will be a viable alternative to the disc drive.

>>2395650
Yes. I have 3 PS1s with broken drives and at least 1 will get a PSIO.

>>2395241

It's not extremely hard if you done any electronics soldering before. I used to mod PSX:s when I was in high school and didn't break any, but first time it can be a bit tricky I guess, disconnecting the cables inside the box without damaging them is probably worse than the actual soldering.

>>2395670
>>2395518
Not everyone wants to solder and cheap soldering irons are trash.
It's a big deal for some people.

>>2395673
>Not everyone wants to solder
Then get somebody else to do it for you.
>cheap soldering irons are trash.
Depends on how cheap we're talking, but in general yes.
>It's a big deal for some people.
Learning a new skill is some big scary thing for some people? How the fuck do they live?

occupying Parallel Port and having to be soldiered at the same time just breaks the deal for me

I mean, why it can't be just connected onto cd-rom header like EVERY other ODE. like gd-emu, rhea or sundriver

>>2395224

If it uses the parallel port it won't work with the white PSone or the later greys, that port was removed in later models.

>>2395679
Because getting good quality tools and parts are expensive and it takes up space.

>>2395680
I'm with you, I'm sure it'll breathe some new life into some PS1s with dead lasers but I'd prefer if it was just straight plug and play

>>2395237

Interestingly enough, even the modern stealth mod chips aren't universally applicable to all psx games. Some of the games are so entrenched in anti-mod code that they still can't run (nearly the entire selection of Japanese DDR games come to mind). I was hoping this PS-IO device would bypass that, but if you still have to modify the system, that kind of takes me back to square one.

>>2395681
Good thing the ones I have are 5501 models. I robably wouldn't mod a 1001

>>2395231
fuck u inflated price ebay selling collector faggot

>>2395583
Bumping my question. Checked their FAQ, just says they can't name a price until its close to launch.

Considering the cost of Everdrive carts, board only, I'd guess between $100-200? Its essentially just an SD card reader and whatever mod chip to be soldered onto the board right?

>>2395680
>>2395691
I also question why they didn't just use a ribbon cable to the CD's connector and you'd have basically 100% compatibility off the bat.

It looks like a nice device, but rather impractical right now.

>>2395776
Much more than $200 and I don't think many people will buy it.

>>2395779
>>2395782
Oh fuck.

Guess I'll stick to emulating the handful of ps1 games I actually give a dick about.

>>2395673
>Not everyone wants to solder and cheap soldering irons are trash.

Depends on your application. We're not talking crazily detailed work on a daily basis here, it's a one time extremely simple solder. Even a trash soldering iron is fine.

>>2395792
Pretty wasteful to buy flux, solder, and an iron for one project.
Just for high quality flux and solder you're looking at like $20-$50 or more.

>>2395796
Nah, you can buy them in allotments designed for small projects for cheap. The cost would be insignificant when you're already paying $200+ dollars for the device.

>>2395808
Maybe for complete garbage solder and flux.

>niche group that cares about retro games
>niche subgroup of that that cares about authenticity
>niche subgroup of that that cares about authenticity to the point of paying for something like this instead of just arguing about what emulator is the most "authentic"
>niche subgroup of that that's willing to pay hundreds of dollars for a PSIO
>niche subgroup of that that's willing to do, or pay someone to do, soldering on the PS1

So this guy is planning on selling what, a couple dozen units?

the solder points on some PS1 models can be quite small; I'm not sure why some of you are encouraging noobs to go pointing hot soldering irons at their PS1 PCBs.

Expecting to see a lot of dead consoles once this drops

>>2395818
We get it, bro. A soldering gun killed your mom. No need to spread misinformation on the internet about the availability of "high quality" solder and flux, though.

>>2395821
The guy making the GDEmu and Rhea has sold over a hundred I believe at least. They're $180 + shipping.

The market is pretty decent for this kind of device. Many people including myself want to through CD drives out as soon as possible.

>>2395831
Getting good no clean solder and flux is easy. It's just not cheap at all for 1 project.

>>2395832
>over a hundred
>market is pretty decent

>>2395835
Like I said, you can buy it in small allotments for single projects. Try looking online instead of at the Home Depot.

>>2395832
With GDEMU there is still loads of people inquiring about ordering or when the next batch will happen.

Demand for Rhea seems slightly less, but they still get sold. I'm waiting for a Model2 version myself.

>>2395837
There's always some retard that comes into these threads thinking that if someone put forward some capitol investment they'll get mass produced, the price will drop dramatically and you'll practically be able to buy one at Walmart.

Don't be that guy.

>>2395837
That's pretty good man for this kind of product.
>>2395845
Yep. Not like the guy is stopping either. Has PCE CD and SEGA CD coming next.
>>2395840
For like $20 or maybe $5 is you really want to hack it and just get a small tangle of solder.

>>2395643
Isnt the compatibility terrible for the ps2?
I was going to set it up bit didnt seem worth it when emulation has better compatibility.

>>2395643
I've been playing on Popstarter for a few weeks and it's nothing but a fucking HEADACHE. Game sounds don't even fucking work.

>Still have to solder
>Doesn't have 100% compatibility, even with some important games.
>You can just mod chip and buy games like an adult.

PASS.

>>2396308
>Doesn't have 100% compatibility, even with some important games.
What?

>>2396313
Read their forums.

>>2396315
I have and the last I read the problem games like CTR have been made to work.

>>2395224
>200 dollars
>for something that might not even work
fuck off , shill

>>2395590
>Who gives a shit

People.

>>2396087
Dont emulate on ps2. Not even NES games play right, so you can imagine the PS1 emulator.

>>2396336
dis

>>2397348
>>2396336
For people that care about preservation, it's very worth it. Assuming 100% compatibility.

>>2397348
this

>>2395680
>>2395691
>>2395779
>>2395789
Is anyone working on a cd-rom replacment?

>>2397526
That's what PSIO is.

>>2397548
Not a good one.

>>2395224
>I think PS1 emulation is still pretty shitty
Stop using epsxe moron.
Mednafen has almost perfect compatibility.

What the fuck do people do to their ps1s?
Mine was modchipped day 1 back in the 90s and to this day it loads in everything properly, despite the hell it went through (me and my friends used to put it in the freezer for 15 minutes every two hours because it would overheat during 110 degree summers when we would do CTR multiplayer marathons).

Also look into POPStarter, it's ps2 hombrew app that allows you to run ps1 games. It's not perfect, but games that work work flawlessly. Been playing FFIX, RE1/2/3, MOH Underground, Front Mission 3, Civ2 and bunch of others.

>>2398510
Nothing, it's simply bad design, the blame lies on Sony.

>>2395224
My wife and I really enjoy playing game on our shiny new PS-IO

We used to enjoy our retron but all our troll threads got deleted so decided to troll with something new

>>2398159
We don't know yet,

>>2398510
Mine is a CD player for the most part

>>2395615
a while back there was a way to play PSP games on a OFW PS3 (including PS1 ISOs) but I haven't heard anything since