/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2360298
I'll support a FF7 thread any ol day of the week.
Was it your first playthrough?
What was your final team?

>>2360345
Yes, it was.
Cloud/Tifa/Cid.

Now go watch Advent Chi-MWHAHAHA
No, please don't.

Favorite music track?http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M3wFnlw0X2I

>>2360390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6GrZYE2il0

>>2360390
>>2360393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOgwnodgwqM

>>2360390
maybe cliche, but i just love it, or at least the idea of it.. the actual song sounds slightly shitty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CK2hx377iU

Cloud/Cid/Barret is best team.

>>2360390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CK2hx377iU

>>2360431
Fucked up the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj0F2KfCvhg

I'm aware this is a wholly ridiculous, fanwank statement to make, but playing this game felt like a dream come true to me. It truly is every great thing you could hope for in a JRPG. It's only been a year since I beat it and already I'm getting the urge to do it all over again.

>>2360361

Cloud/Tifa/Barret. It just feels right to beat the game with them since they've been through it all.

FF7 is truly an amazing game and definitely one of my favorites. I beat FF6, but overall I enjoyed FF7 more.

>>2360390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBRAkpXTmCs
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oISduhRtmAg

It's amazing how people still play this game for the first time in 2015 and enjoy it as much as those who played it when it came out. That's the definition of classic.

>>2360465
I tend to switch a little, but Cid is a musthave if you ask me, the dialogue get's so much better with him around.

And my favorite track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nswfLcROs-0
I love how eerie it sounds, like you know something is about to happen.

Please excuse me I don't mean to be rude
But tonight I'm posting best waifu

>>2360510
oopsie

>>2360515
>>2360510

Save the waifufaggotry for /v/, please.

>>2360523
Nothing wrong about the best character along with Barret

>>2360465
When you think about it, Tifa is the only one besides Cloud who has any personal beef with Sephiroth anyways.

>>2360540
Tifa is the real "protagonist" of the story in my opinion. Even all the shit that happened to Cloud was because of her.

Everything comes together in FF7. 10/10 music, 10/10 art design. Love the backdrops, they are so colorful and full of flavor. Every one is memorable. I even love the 3d models in the battles. The Playstation can't do good textured 3d anyway, might as well have gouraud-shaded nightmares that look they are out of some modern art sculpture. Like the characters and the story, too. The best part is how no one fully knows what's happening, and Cloud taking the place of someone else messes with all the backstory recollections until it is resolved. The way the actions of the past interact with the current time is really good and results in one of my favorite JRPG narratives.

In my top 5 jrpgs, easily. Only negative point against it is that it is really easy for a jrpg. And jrpgs are easy, so it is REALLY easy. The sort of magic this game evokes you see very rarely, in games like Phantasy Star 4 and Lunar 2.

As a side note, I first played this game on PC, since I didn't have a Playstation. It was so good that I never stopped playing even though the PC version locked up every time an FMV started, and all the minigames ran at 5 fps.

>>2360552
Is the PC version really that bad? I'm considering getting it cause I want to replay it and I have no PS1 at the moment.

>>2360558
The steam version they fixed those problems, the early pc port also has midi sound for all music, sounds pretty terrible

>>2360558
It should run fine today. I first played it in 1999, on a PC with no internet connection (no patches), and mediocre specs. Most of my problem was the disc drive not reading the FMVs properly, I had to open and close it (sometimes for a very long time) hoping it would eventually read. That would never happen today.

I have the Greatest Hits version now, though, and use my Playstation 2. I picked it up for under 10 bucks at Walmart back when they were phasing out PS1 stuff in favor of PS2.

>>2360573
So is the steam version ok? I might go for that one. Thanks man.

>>2360548
Would have been more interesting to hear her inner monologues too.
>Wut? This nigga wasn't in SOLIDER. Oh well, he can flight and all we have now are scrubs, better just go along with it.

>>2360573
A slight correction here. All versions of FF7 have midi music, including the Playstation. The problem with the original PC release is that it uses the default windows midi soundset, which is atrocious.

>>2360580
I know right? During the entire game she looks like she's hiding something.

>>2360590
God forbid there's ever a remake. But if there is, I want more of the story from Tifa's perspective.

>>2360596
>>2360580
Indeed. Hell can you imagine playing AS Tifa?
All new scenarios alongside the main game stuff.

>>2360603
Maybe have there always be two separate playable parties post-Midgar, with Tifa as leader of the second.
And she could show increasing doubt in Cloud to the other members
>shit guys, Cloud is really starting to lose it

>>2360613
Playing as her while Cloud is off in Sector 5 getting to know Aeris.

Requires minigame involving breasts though.

>>2360617
Dude do you really prefer Aeris' breasts over Tifa's?

tifa is the GOAT waifu

my party was cloud, tifa, and their pet dog

Can we have one FF7 thread that doesn't turn into a waifu debate?
I mean I love Yuffie just as much as the next guy, but c'mon.

It is pretty crazy how the game almost completely disregards Aerith after her death. It's been a long time since I played, but she's barely mentioned in the end, isn't she?

Not gonna lie, I hate Final Fantasy, but this game is soooooo dank.

>>2360659
Everybody knows Jessie is best waifu, cleaning off your dirty face and making special explosives just for you.

>>2360671
There's like one brief mention of her depending on your party before you head into the crater but yeah, disc 3 forgets she ever existed.

>>2360671
She dies and that's all. That's how things happen in real life. Aeris was never relevant to the story anyway, nor was she really that interesting of a character if you ask me. She had to die. It was her only purpose.

>>2360671
She's actually one of the biggest plot devices in the game.

>>2360671
What about the whole holy materia or whatever the fuck?

Favorite area? I absolutely loved the playground in Midgar, there was some extra care when they rendered that background. It stuck out to me for some reason.

>>2360687
No shit, but the game doesn't even mention her except for >>2360690 Yeah, one single mention during the crater when Cloud says her material is shining or whatever. Him and Tifa never talk about it, no one else ever mentions her.

>>2360697
What do you want them to say? They barely even knew her anyway.

>>2360695
That little cabin you're taken to if you collapse in the snow field

>>2360697
It's because she's not that important- the circumstances of her birth and the people that orchestrated it are. She might have been able to be important, had she not been impaled.

Hojo and her mother get quite a bit of screen time, if I recall.

Guys, quick question.
I'm playing FF& for the first time, and I'm at disc 3,
I died in North Cave and haven't gotten back there since.
Can I go back to the overworld after entering that cave?

I ask this because in FF8 all you can do in Disc 4 is Ultimecia's castle,which is quite a bummer.

>>2360869
To a point. As long as you are before the point where either cloud or cid or someone says "no turning back now", you can climb all the way out and return to the airship.

>>2360869
Yeah. You can leave anytime you want. The only point of no return is after the "Let's mosey" scene.

>>2360876
>>2360873
Thanks, I thought you couldn't return because at the very start where the Highwing is landed Cloud says something like "We can only silde down.",so I thought there was no return at all.

Thanks anons, really enjoying the game btw.

This is one of those games i replay at least once every 2 years

It's not my favorite of the series, but it's still up there. The materia system made for some interesting setups if you put time into getting AP, and thought into what you wanted to do with your party. Kinda the inverse of VI, in a way. Since there, you can do a great deal with equipment options. Part of why I like VI more, but I still hold VII close to my heart.

Has anyone here ever done a playthrough where they tried to make characters correspond to Job class archetypes? I feel like it's a common run, but nobody I know personally has ever done it, other than me.

So who was the real big bad im this game?
Jenova, right? I just can't accept that a 20-something year old pretty boy can manipulate a planet destroying extraterrestrial.

>>2361785
Well you seem to have missed alot, why don't you replay and figure it out yourself.

>>2361856
So it is Sephiroth then? Typical nips, have the long haired bishonenfag be stronger than the ancient alien lifeform.

>>2361876

It sounds like you haven't played the game and are just trying to piece together what you hear other people say about it

>>2361876
The ancient DEAD alien, yes. A distinction a great deal of people don't seem to catch.

Ok so regarding the whole Jenova thing, what I gather is
>Jenova came to earth, fucked the ancients to near extinction, the ancients sealed her away
>thousands of years later, Shinra scientists excavated Jenova, mistaking her for an ancient
>Shinra has Jenova cells cucked into a baby (either to find the promised land or to intentionally create a super soldier, not sure on this)
>Sephiroth is the result of this cucking, he's a big guy, but not exactly what Shinra wanted
>at some point during all this, Shinra figures out that Jenova isn't good and seals it up
>Sephiroth learns of his origins, goes bananas and goes to Jenova's remains (not sure what he was planning to do)
>Cloud sword-cucks him into the lifestream (not sure if Seph literally falls into the stream or if they just mean his soul after dying)
Am I right so far? I'll keep going if so.

>>2361986
when did sephirot fall into the lifestream?
i guess it's been a while since i played it.

In my mind it goes like this
>shinra finds jenova
>uses it for supersoldiers
>unexpected results, sephirot is now unstoppable and destroys the world

>>2362004
It's explicitly said that's how he learned about meteor and the ancients. It's also how he got to the northern cave.

>>2361941
Jenova can't be killed you silly goose, only contained until she decides to do her reunion

>>2362007
Where his real body is, if you payed attention to the cutscene you'd see the lower half of his body is missing (which you see later when you fight one-winged sephiroth, that's his original real body, with added wings and stuff)

Best RPG music ever, with Chrono Trigger a close second IMO.

This game started the unhealthy video game addiction that plagues me to this day.

I downloaded a free video of it off of AOL on 56k, read about it in gaming mags and knew that I had to get a PlayStation to experience it.

Such an interesting story.
And all the little inconsistencies and questionable shit just helps create discussion. I'll be talking about this game 10 years from now.

>>2362004
You need to play the game again. The scene where he falls into the lifestream is very late in the game, in the final flashback where the true story is revealed.

>>2361785
Fuccboi Hojo abd the rest of the Shinra gang are the ones who caused everything. AVALANCHE was right from the start.

>>2361986
Everyone with Jenova cells (including sephiroth) were drawn to the north cave. That's who all those random cloaked people were.

Best minigame fucking coming through!

>>2362226
Who were they before they got cucked by the Jenova cells then?

>>2362232
>Not just fighting the boss and stealing all the shit he has

>>2360659

>>2362232
It was fun the first few times, then you realize that simply fighting the boss is much more profitable and less time/money wasting.

>>2362562
Is there even anything unique that comes out of that outside of Phoenix?

>>2362581
Bosses give some rare items.

>>2362241
Most, if not all, were citizen of Nibelheim, including two kids

>>2360361
that's the squad I rolled with

good job OP

>>2362232
All I did was just fight the boss

>>2360552
lunar 2 is eternal blue right? I never played it because silver star story was so dissapointing.

>>2362675
Shit, that's actually pretty dark.

>>2362769

All right guys, let's mosey

this gives me the chills

>>2362769
Yup. I honestly don't understand why SSS gets all the love. Eternal Blue is far, far superior in every aspect. Like, on an obvious, self-evident level. Yet, everyone points to SSS as the best in the series.

>>2362924
Most people got into the series via the Playstation version. Eternal Blue Complete (which isn't a great remake to begin with) came out in like 2000, around the time PS2 was all the hype.

How many times do you think Aeris' house got robbed?
Biggest house in the middle of somalia-tier ghetto with no one but two women living there. It's gotta happen.

>>2363182
I'm sure the Planet had some sort of protection on it since it and the church are literally the the only fertile regions left in Midgard.

>>2363187
Didn't Tseng imply that he had someone watching the place? Everyone probably knew if you looked at the place funny Shinra goons would rough you up.

I'm playing FFVII for the first time too, and yeah, it's a masterpiece. I totally get all the love and praise I've heard about it.

I'm at the beginning of Disc 3, in the Northern Cave. I'm at the second level down, and I'm not sure whether I want to go all the way down and beat Sephiroth, or go back up and continue dicking around the overworld. Ultima Weapon was easy, but Ruby and Emerald both kicked my ass. My friend told me there's no chance against them without doing a bunch of Chocobo bullshit and getting Knights of the Round.

Currently lvl 60, using Cloud, Yuffie, Vincent.

>>2363210
Go back to the overworld and dick around. If you like the game now, just wait until you learn how to break the materia meta-game.

>>2360465

Does anyone else change up their team based on who you think is best fit for the story at the time? the assault on Midgar is a good exampl. It's Tifa and Barret to fight the Turks, Cid and Cait sith to fight the Proud Clod, Vincent and Red XIII to fight Hojo

>>2360540

Vincent, also just not on the same level

>>2363226
Do you have seperate set of materia for all of them? Or do you just transfer materia from character to character?
It sounds like you're switching out characters every 15 to 20 minutes, so I could imagine redoing the materia set-ups each time can get a little tedious.

>>2363227
Vincent just used to shag his mother. I wouldn't really call that a beef.

>>2363232

Oversimplfying it a bit don't you think m8?

>>2363231

You know you can transfer all materia between characters in one go right?

>>2363242
Oh yeah, you right. I didn't find out about that until way late into my first playthrough, and to this day I always forget I can use it.

I hear this game has a pretty interesting debug room.
I'm getting my first GameShark soon and I plan on dicking around there.

>>2363242
Wait, how do you do that?

Tifa being the lead in a remake would be pretty snazzy, as would having it so she can just give Scarlet a mean right hook and knock her ass to the floor, rather than a slap fight.

>>2363205
This.
they pretty much were under protection from the Turks, who were recognized as the baddest of the bad.

>>2363210
You can beat Emerald AND Ruby without KoTR. For Ruby, use either Dazers (stolen from boundfats near Corel) or Hades and piercing attacks. Ruby is weak to paralyze, which Hades and Dazers cause.
With Emerald, I recommend having Demi linked with Hp Absorb, and another linked with MP Absorb, and another with Counter Magic. He is weak to gravity, so you can do 9999 each time and get all your shit back. Then have Final Attack+Phoenix (or Revive) on at least two people. You'll want to be at least level 99 though. OR, you xan get Lucky 7's and rek him

>>2363210
Oh, and ditch Vincent. Due to his limit break, he is a shit-tier character, unless you get his ultimate weapon to overflow, which is 30x the horseshit of getting KotR.
Yuffie is a good choice, though. Her Conformer is the only weapon in the game that does max damage while morphing. Also, when under Confu, it does 0 damage to allies. Finally, her Doom of the Living Limit Break is one of the best in the game, under Cloud, Cid, and Barret in damage. Finally, she can do full damage from the back row. Never take her from there.
To replace Vincent, use Barret or Cid. Cid's final limit break does the highest damage next to Cloud's, he has one of two Triple materia growth weapons in the game, and his best weapon's special dealy is pretty good. Barret is a back row character, has the best natural HP and stat growth overall, and Ungrmax is pretty damn good (use Ungermax instead of his level 4, it does more damage). Barrett and Cid are pretty even, but I loke Cid more.

>>2363452
Of course, it doesn't matter TOO much when you get all the best stuff in the game who you use, but if you're NOT getting KotR and the other gold chocobo stuff, you need to have high damage output limits, which Vincent does NOT. VINCENT IS NOTHING BUT A LIABILITY WHEN HE IS TRANSFORMED. Especially if you're using one of his forms that does elemental damage. He'll sit there and continuously heal enemies if they absorbthat eleelement, and I'm sure you've gotten fucked by him being last man standing and unable to revice anyone.

So who really killed Aerith? Since Sephiroth was trapped in the Northern Crater with only half his body, how did he do it? Or was it a Sephiroth clone? I thought they were all retarded. Or did Cloud do it? And what we are shown as the player is what he sees in his mind as he kills her.

>>2363510
It was a piece of Jenova acting on Sephiroth's will.

>>2363512
>Sephiroths will
>Killing Cetra/Ancients

NOPE.EXE

It was Jenovas mission from the start to wipe out all the cetra/ancients so that she finally could infest the planet, milk it's life energy and then move on to another planet, without having to worry about cetras counter-acting meteor, or pesky plumbers.

>>2363536
So why take the form of Sephiroth? Jenova disguised itself as people that were known to the Cetra. It makes no sense to disguise itself as Sephiroth in secret other than if Sephiroth wanted to be seen to do it.

>>2363539
Because Sephiroth strikes fear into the hearts of those who are involved with trying to stop "sephiroth"

>>2363510

It was Jenova doing Sephiroths will

>>2363536

You. Shut the fuck up. Sephirtoh became far more important than Jenova and that was made clear in the game be case the reunion didn't build around Jenova like Hojo said it would but around Sephiroth.

>>2363548
It was built around Sephiroth cause he still had Jenovas head in his possession after Nibelheim

Really good game that gave us all hope for the cinematic potential of video games. Also, I love original busty Tifa.

>>2363558
>Also, I love original busty Tifa.
She's a proper classic.

>>2362232
Hello no. Fuck that boring shit, snowboard 4 lyfe.

I bought it the day it came out. Was disappointed. Played it once. Attempted to get into it again like 2 more times since, got bored.

>>2360298
I played this game a while ago, not that great, there are definitely deeper games out there and they are simply better at immersing the player in its worlds.

The character development is terrible as well, I mean look at the main character! He starts off as an annoying douche and slowly evolves into being a pussy. The black just swears a few times and SPOILER! his WHITE daughter turns out not to be his actual daughter, the baby's daddy comes back and wants to kill the black dude and the girl, and the brunette with the dolly parton sized jugs pathetically remains in the friend zone, because the main character is obsessed with some cocktease in a pink dress who can talk to the ground, and SPOILER ALERT!!! IT TALKS BACK!!!!

If you just took Ferngully, and force fed it 90's animes, threw in a couple robots, lasers and cyberpunk shit, and had just randomly chucked swords and monsters in there and hoped for the best, you would've just formulated FF7. The conception for this game and planning for it is TERRIBLE now that I think about it.

>>2365428
/pol/ please

>>2365335
It was actually the Icicle Inn snowboarding game that got me interested in the Cool Boarders series, which would later lead to my love of the first THPS series.

>>2363543
Also because Jenova knew that Sephiroth is the master when it comes to baiting Cloud.
Basically, an image of Sephiroth is all you need to master-bait Cloud, especially if you want him to come somewhere.

>>2365428
You don't necessarily have to friendzone Tifa.
I'm playing through FF7 again right now. I'm kissing Tifa's ass while not giving Aeris the time of day.

>>2365889
Oh the puns

>>2365428
>tifa
>friendzoned
Dude the whole backstory for Cloud sums up in the fact that he has the hots for Tifa.

>>2360298
Yep, it's indeed amzingly overrated.

>>2365959
:^)

So, do Cloud and Tifa bang at the Northern Crater if she has max friendship?

>>2365963
It's pretty heavily implied

Who held the higher rank?
SOLDIER or the Turks? Like, if members of both were on a mission, who would have authority?

>>2366305
If we go by Crisis core, the turks seem to have the higher authority

>>2365963
and the rest of the party watches from the highwind deck.

>>2362040
Case in point.

>>2362040
So Jenova is like Buu? would make sense

>>2365889
It's because cloud killed him and he was powerful as shit despite cloud killing him as easily as he killed zack

>>2360298
I really wanted to play FFVII as a kid but I didn't have a console.

Instead I played Septerra Core.

When I finally got around to play FFVII I was extremely disappointed with how shit it was compared to Septerra Core.

>>2360695
i know right?

last time I played ff7 was back in the early 2000s. Got it for xmas back in the late 90s for pc but never had the computer to run it until my dad got a win98 compaq... but i sucked at it lol. So few years later I finally experienced the right way.

fast forward to last summer and... yeah, this scene. Just something about it. It has that comfy 90s pre-rendered background feel to it, ya know?

>>2360431
>Correct, as all their final Limit Breaks actually hit multiple times.

>>2360390
>>2360393
>>2360410
>>2360416
Why does nobody ever choose this masterpiece as their favorite??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsrengWxaM8

I still have to resume my first ever playthrough (which I started a couple of years ago). I like the feeling of ff7, but I absolutely loathe Cloud and I can't even pinpoint the reason why.

>>2366990
If it helps, his personality does a complete 180 by the end of the game.

>>2366993
Cloud didn't really have much of a personality. I never got how he did 180. I get he was confused for a while but as far as when he snaps back into hes the same despite having more of a motive to fight for the planet. I guess you played the にほん version which might of actually gave you a reason for such a shitty ending

>>2360583
Which isn't a problem if you have soundfonts or output to a proper midi synth. The soundtrack is actually really good as midis.

>>2360671
Most people say that Cloud broods the rest of the series due to Aerith's death.

When really he just gets mindfucked by jenova then after he recovers makes a beeline to the final dungeon.

>>2366305
Soldier Officers/leaders like Angel, Genesis, and Sephiroth = Heidegger/Veld/Tseng, if only because they dont have any manner of controlling them or enforcing discipline.
Normal Turks > Soldier 1sts/2nds/3rds

>>2360361
>Likes FFVII
>Doesn't main Red XIII

What the fuck is this shit

wrong pic m8

I tried this game a few years ago but stopped playing when I got stuck in a desert area.

I'm gonna start over and give it another go soon. Any tips/advice? I'd like to know about any stuff that I can miss but I don't want to play through hugging an FAQ, so if there's anything worth mentioning I'd like to hear it. I apparently missed Yuffie the last time I played.

>>2367206
Don't switch out materia too often. It levels and gives you stronger spells.

>>2367206
The only thing worth checking a faq for is getting Vincent and Yuffie, maybe even the the password to access the huge materia in the spaceship, cause that thing is a bitch if you don't know the password
I wouldn't bother much with one if you're not gonna get the optional characters and if you wanna do endgame stuff like gold chocobo and ultimate weapons, cause let's face it, you'd never get a gold chocobo unless someone told you how.

>>2367308
>Spoiler

I got it on my first try. :V

Timer gives you a lot of room for trial and error for such a 'rare' item~

>>2361785
Hojo
>Killed Gast
>Tortured countless people
>"Killed" Vincent
>Performed experiments on him just for the hell of it
>Raped his fucking girlfriend and poisoned her fetus
>Performed experiments on Cloud and Zack
>Crippled Cloud's mind
>Performed experiments on all the survivors of mass devastation in a small town which was caused by a previous test subject
>Tried to crossbreed Aerith with a dog to create a longer living test sebject
>Didnt give a fuck when one of his test subjects killed his boss instead he just kicked back on a beach with some hoes.
>calls Cloud a fucking failure retard and just laughs in his face
>Later on he tries to fire a cannon at sephiroth to give him all the energy he needed to destroy the world without giving a fuck that it would destroy the city if not stopped
>injects himself with jenova cells and transforms into 2 kickass monsters
>downloads himself into the shinra database before his death
>possesses the greatest warrior since sephiroth and orders his men to kill everybody that wasn't infected with jenova cells, women and children it doesn't fucking matter, for the sole purpose of ressurecting a monster that will kill everybody and suck their souls up before flying off into space
pretty badass if you ask me

Did you let Aeris die?

>>2363210
Finish the game now while you're still enthralled by the story. Catch all the extra stuff in a second playthrough, because you'll need hours of farming

>>2367950
Ya lost me with the last two.

>>2368006
>>2367950
Dirge of Cerberus.

FFVII has always been a close game to my heart. It just has this... undefinable feeling to me. I can't say it's nostalgia, I beat FFVI long before I finished FFVII. But there's something about this game - whether it be the backgrounds or the music - there's something, so real, so thoughtful about the world and the characters. It touches me in a way few games can.

I came across a list dealing with the "top ten games that deal with emotional issues". FFVII ended up being the number one game on the list; in fact, the writer even titled it as /the/ emotional game.

I feel his entry on the list sums up how I feel about the game well:

"Down to number one. I'm sure you've had one of these two reactions: 'YES! NAILED IT! FFVII FTW!' or 'Dammit! This overrated game again!' The very fact that FFVII is so much discussed vehemently today testifies to its greatness. Our 'emotional game' could only be this game. No other option exists. The game is a festival of true emotions, deep characters, memorable events. Unlike other games, you'll live with this game. You'll recognize its characters as real people. It's the most human game out there.

You walk with the game's protagonist, Cloud, with his arrogance and cool attitude but grows to learn to value the importance of comradeship and his friends. You learn to respect the charismatic Sephiroth. You understand the emotional value behind the relationship between these two men, which is a complex mixture of respect and hostility. A dead character, Zack, shadows the events of game and injects a sense of loss. You are fascinated by the dark, sardonic character of Vincent. You fall in love with the sweet Aerith, and her death scene and funeral is one of the saddest most shocking scene in the history of gaming. And this is just tip of the iceberg.

FF Tactics is the ultimate pluralistic games which encompasses all ideas and philosophies. FFVII does the same with emotions, it contains all you've felt. It's a gigantic work of art."

FFVII has always been a close game to my heart. It just has this... undefinable feeling to me. I can't say it's nostalgia, I beat FFVI long before I finished FFVII. But there's something about this game - whether it be the backgrounds or the music - there's something, so real, so thoughtful about the world and the characters. It touches me in a way few games can.

I came across a list dealing with the "top ten games that deal with emotional issues". FFVII ended up being the number one game on the list; in fact, the writer even titled it as /the/ emotional game.

I feel his entry on the list sums up how I feel about the game well:

"Down to number one. I'm sure you've had one of these two reactions: 'YES! NAILED IT! FFVII FTW!' or 'Dammit! This overrated game again!' The very fact that FFVII is so much discussed vehemently today testifies to its greatness. Our 'emotional game' could only be this game. No other option exists. The game is a festival of true emotions, deep characters, memorable events. Unlike other games, you'll live with this game. You'll recognize its characters as real people. It's the most human game out there.

You walk with the game's protagonist, Cloud, with his arrogance and cool attitude but grows to learn to value the importance of comradeship and his friends. You learn to respect the charismatic Sephiroth. You understand the emotional value behind the relationship between these two men, which is a complex mixture of respect and hostility. A dead character, Zack, shadows the events of game and injects a sense of loss. You are fascinated by the dark, sardonic character of Vincent. You fall in love with the sweet Aerith, and her death scene and funeral is one of the saddest most shocking scene in the history of gaming. And this is just tip of the iceberg.

FF Tactics is the ultimate pluralistic games which encompasses all ideas and philosophies. FFVII does the same with emotions, it contains all you've felt. It's a gigantic work of art."

Forget Aeris's death, this was the true emotional peak of the story.

https://youtu.be/ih7s1e55tZI?t=950

Nothing matches seeing that unmasking the first time. The music really seals the deal.

Forget Aeris's death, this was the true emotional peak of the story.

https://youtu.be/ih7s1e55tZI?t=950 [Embed]

Nothing matches seeing that unmasking the first time. The music really seals the deal.

>>2368914
Holy shit man. Thanks for making me remember this. This is when I gave up on trying to deny the evidence and admitted that there was no choice but appreciate this game as the masterpiece it is.

>>2368941
It only took you 4 discs..

>>2368945
It's a 3-disc game...

>>2368914

>>2368945
Yeah well it's three discs but whatever. I didn't really know what to think about the story up to that point. I wasn't sure where it was going with the eco-terrorism thing, the romance thing with Aeris was too forced and the main character too shallow. But when that happend everything made sense.

>>2368968
The part in Mideel where Cloud got retarded in a wheelchair, and Tifa started giving him blowjobs was so hilarious.

>>2368894
I hear you, especially that first disc. The first time I got out into the world map I was amazed and overwhelmed with the scale of things.

It's something they'll find hard to recreate in a remake for sure.

>>2368914
I mean this game has A LOT of great scenes, one in particular always makes my eyes all watery, the music, the scenery and the event that happens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvmbO9wXMkQ

>>2369123
Oh, ignore that shitty edit at the end, didn't notice it until I watched the video, was the only one that wasn't 240p or PC midi

Urge to fap over vintage FF7 hentai rising.

>>2368914
>tfw the majority of players don't understand the significance of this as the ending of the protagonist's existential crisis.

>>2368914
That static sound effect that starts around 2 minutes in used to fucking terrify me for some reason.

>>2368968
Tifa looks like she's about to push Cloud down a flight of stairs.

>>2362232
It's a nice minigame but it's introduced at the worst possible time.

>>2370846
Gil reasons? or because you want to advance the plot

.

>>2363252
Arrange materia option.
>>2360465
Cid grew on me if only because the dialogue is so good. Better than Barret's in most cases. Yuffie is pretty amusing herself as well and I like how awkward Vincent is. But it disappointed me how he literally had nothing to say when you meet Hojo at the Northern Cave.

>>2371219

Yuffie is all kinds of fun as a character. She's a delight.

>>2369042
I must have missed this scene...

So in the remake that's never gonna happen - I want Limit Breaks that kill targets to get MKX-like X-ray/brutality kind of animations, obviously less on the over the top histrionic violence front, but crushing impact shown in a similar style would be amazing (yeah I know, kinda unrealistic given the sheer number of enemies in the game, but I just wanna see Tifa shatter someone's braincase with a powerfist, is that so wrong?)

>>2371312

I doubt Tifa even knows what a brain is, the stupid bimbo

>>2371321
>sweet
>pretty
>monster hooks, badass bitch

She could be literally Mongo-tier retarded, still an 8/10.

>>2360695
Midgar in general. especially around disc 2 where you get to see more of it. I'm actually kind of pissed there's no real high res artwork of it.

>>2363401
fuck you. the slap fight was awesome.

I'm doing the Mansion/Vincent sidequest without a manual for the first time.
I usually just go straight to the safe and look up the code, so I have absolutely nothing to go on. This is actually pretty difficult.

Anyone else love the game but hate the FMV's? They just feel so out of place and the character models look really awkward to me.
I would have much rather had more content in place of the videos. Even if it's just another generic town or dungeon.

>>2372168
I dont hate them exactly, but I do agree Id rather have gameplay over them. I mean hell thats the reason FF 7-9 had to have multiple disc was because of square packing FMV's on them. Its also why you can swap disc for a cutscene if your disc is messed up and it will play whichever FMV was in that slot on the disc you inserted.

>>2372168
the fmvs add so much to FF. I had no idea people dont like them

>>2372220
It might be just me.
And I have no problem with the ones in 8 and 9. But FMV's in 7 just never felt right to me.

>>2372190
Or, at least with FF9, with a original model PS1 you could just pop the disc tray open and then close it during an FMV, it'd skip the whole thing and bring you back to gameplay. It was one of the first methods for speedrunning the game in order to get the Excalibur 2 (you had to reach the end of the game in under 12 hours).

If FF7 ever got a live action movie, I would cast him if I had the decision

>>2372483
Sorry, but all we'll get is Will Smith.

>>2371797
>fuck you. the slap fight was awesome.

I was only in awe of how retarded it was. Ive seen better martial artists at my nephews yellow belt reception

>>2372483
oh my yes.

>>2372505
I can see it now
>Barret - Will smith
>Cloud- keanu reeves
>Tifa-Scarlet johansen
>Aerith-Megan Fox
>sephiroth- Tom hiddleston

>>2372526
>Scarjo in anything good

I hated it. It didn't have the same charm as the V or VI.

People only like VII, VIII, IX, Tactics, and SotN because they were on the PlayStation and the PS1 was their first console. Let's not forget how far superior FFV, RoB, and SC4 are.

>You will never be young again discovering final fantasy VII for the first time.
>Nope
>Never again

>I said it.

>>2372549
>the PS1 was their first console

No, it's just that Genesis did...

>>2372549
see >>2371243

>>2372537
>thinking a video game to film adaptation has any chance of being good, no matter who is in it.

>>2372571
There's got to be a first for everything, the delayed WoW-movie looks promising

>>2372549
NES/SNES-er here.

FFT is utterly glorious and blows the piss out of FF5 thanks to its superior gameplay, addition of R/S/M slots, and storyline.

@OP -- Anyways, FF7 only "okay" in my book. The characters are too interchangeable gameplay wise and 3-person parties don't allow for as strong specialization.

The ending was garbage, and the Summon animations got old REALLY fast. If they spent more time focusing on the dystopia that was Midgard/Shinra and less chasing the token evil dude with an Oedipus complex the game would've been better off.

>>2372505
FF live action cast:
>Will Smith as Barret Wallace
>Matthew McConaughey as Cid Highwind
>Scarlett Johansson as Tifa Lockhart
>Jennifer Lawrence as Aeris Gainsborough ("Aerith" lisp joke included)
>Devon Aoki as Yuffie Kisaragi
>Jake Gyllenhaal as Vincent Valentine
>Justin Hartley as Cloud Strife
>Tom Hiddleston as Sephiroth
>Featuring the voice talent of Vince Vaughn and Bradley Cooper as Cait Sith and Red XIII (exact assignments undecided until after fan speculation is gauged, at which point the less desirable choice is finalized)

>Produced and Directed by Guillermo del Toro

>>2372581

VII is just the mole polished product, two wings were too much.

>>2372584
>Justin Hartley

>>2372584
>>2372526
>Scarjo
>Jlaw
>Will smith
>Devon Aoki playing a 16yo
>Jake memenhall
>Justin playing a 21yo

The only thing you got right was the director

>>2372597
Were saying that's what hollywood would give us not the best people for the role. Think before you speak.

>>2372597
Wait, I'm not done yet:

> Stephen Fry as Heidigger
> Steve Buscemi as Hojo
> Brendan Fraser as Rufus Shinra

>>2372079
There's a lot of annoying random battles that can be dangerous if you're underleveled and not well equipped but it's pretty straightforward to get the numbers once you find the clue.

Tempted to pull the trigger on VII for the vita.

>>2372584

>>2372652
It looks pretty great on the Vita screen. There's not really any scaling and the quality of thing is amazing for a handheld.

You are playing it in game for ants mode, though.

>>2372584
inb4
>Produced and Directed by Quentin Tarantino

>>2372854
>Quentin Tarantino

I would be legitamately pissed and abandon hollywood-produced movies forever if he got his hands on that source material

How would you punish her for stealing all your materia?

>>2371196
Quality post right here

>>2373031
Household chores and prayer, obviously.

>>2373031
Fuck her, obviously.

>>2372864
I doubt he would get it. The feelings towards Jews by the Japanese are shaky at best.

>>2371257
Anyone who doesn't go on the date with Yuffie has shit-tier taste.

>>2373673
>Not going on the date with Barret for the sheer awkwardness of the ordeal.

>>2373716
That shit was pretty impossible to pull of, though. You have to play the game all retarded in order to get that.

>>2363252

Arrange>Exchange>select someone's name

>>2373716
>>2373673
Yuffie was hard enough to get with, but christ, the Barret Date is almost impossible.

I just used a trainer in the end.

>>2373990
Barret isn't that hard to get if you abuse the date mechanics.
You can nearly match his affection points with Tifa's before even leaving the bar by giving the right responses.
Then just keep shooting down Aeris for Tifa, you pretty much have to since Aeris' starting affection is stupidly high like the clingy basic bitch she is.
Then once you get to the jail in the Shinra building, just tell Tifa that you're a little bitch who can't find your way out of the cell. You can keep doing this as many times as you need to in order to secure your date with the BBC.
Happy cucking, friendo.

no one ever posts this in ff7 threads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeIefheO3h0

>>2360876
Are you sure about that? Isn't the point of no return before you drop into the chamber where the party gives you the stuff they found in the caves?

>>2367950
Poor Gast. I felt really bad for him when looking around his study.

>>2368914

>Ah, Shinra uniform, that brings back memories...

>>2374006
That's not cuckoldry. That's just outright faggotry.

>>2372584
>Scarlett Johansson as Tifa and not Scarlet

>>2374367
99% certain that you can go left and leave the screen after you got your items from them, only not 100% because I havn't played FF7 for 2 years or so.

>>2374483
>Scarlet played by Charlize Theron

>>2371257
Did Yuffie love Cloud?

>>2374568
Love? She's like 16... Maybe she did? She had balls enough to kiss Cloud, too bad he chickened out.

>>2374571
I'm sure she would've loved to stick her dick in that.

>>2374574
Just like Mukki

Why didn't they ever kill Hojo?
He caused everything.

>>2374576
Oh god, that was way too much for my 9 year old brain to comprehend.

>>2374582
They did kill him.

>>2374568
i like to think so

>>2360390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1LTS0vpVjI

>>2374582
They did kill him the last time you meet him.
Or his body at least. Fucking Dirge of Cerberus.

>>2374582
They did. In a 3 stage boss fight when you go back to Midgar.

>>2360523
fucking this

>>2374574
>>2374568
Her relationship with Cloud is never really gone much into, friendly or otherwise.

Am I pretentious if I say I despise this game? Even when I played it back in the day I hated it, before it became the "nightmare before Christmas" of video games. I just never got into it like other JRPGs. It started the whole "everything is esoteric and convoluted" trend in Japanese RPGs.

Or am I just a "hipster"?

>>2376478
I didn't like it. I even got past midgar and even to the other (island? been too long).

FFVIII is a game. It's an overrated game though. The plot is generic, the characters are original yet lack genuineness. The setting is nice. Gameplay is generic, and even with the materia system it's not exactly worth to change out specific party members at times.

It lacks strategy.

>>2376478

So long as you acknowledge yourself as being in the minority rather than arrogantly dismissing the game entirely I don't see any problem with you feeling that way. You can't enjoy everything after all, there's just too much out there.

>>2376536
Wow. This is the most civil discussion I've ever had on here.

>>2376668
This is actually the typical level of discourse after the neckbeards and 6thgenners are forced to go to bed by their parents.

>>2370929
not him, but both.

>>2376478
It's more pretentious to suggest it's a good game. Much in the same way it is pretentious to suggest Nightmare Before Christmas is a good movie as well.

Despising it may be a bit overboard. But both of these things aren't really very good but get held up in high undeserved regard. The definition of overrated.

That's not to say there aren't good parts about either, just as a whole they're not very cohesive nor well put together.

Usually the people who highly regard these things tap into a single element and ride that to their hearts content. Such as oh so gothic inspired and misunderstood -> therefore must be deep and relates to me, or oh so edgy and angry -> therefore so philosophical and relates to me.
I'm not suggesting the people who like these things are really bad, they're just really looking at these things through very subjective filters that resonate very deeply with them without taking in the quality of content.
Shit I used to love Karate Kid, Gremlins, and E.T. as a child and I would rewatch them over and over but I'm not going to sit here and try to pass them off as honestly good movies. They weren't. Because I can separate the concept of resonating and emotionally impacting me through shared experience with concept of plot, good writing, consistency, and direction.
It's kind of like falling in love at first sight. That's really infatuation and perhaps you base some of it on assumptions based on the persons belongings and style but ultimately you don't actually know that person. That's not really loving a person that's loving the idea of a person. That's what's going on here, people are loving the idea of FF7 and NBC and confusing it with loving the things without really getting to know them by perpetually keeping themselves in a honeymoon phase rather than sitting down and examining the flaws and problems.

>>2374568
Yuffie wants the vampire dick bruh.

>>2365335
Like a third of my playtime was sunk into that

>>2360390
Judgement day, at this part :
https://youtu.be/mGHDXDI-DNc?t=32

E P I C
P
I
C

>>2360580
It does make you wonder just how different VII would seem if they did the same thing VIII did. How in certain scenes there were dialog boxes to show what the characters (might have been just Squall, I haven't played the game since the early 2000s so memories are fuzzy) were thinking as well.

>>2367308
>the password to access the huge materia in the spaceship

I still do not understand how you were supposed to figure that out without a guide.

>>2376478
I have no problem at all with people voicing their distaste with FF7. In fact I welcome it.
It's one of my favotite games of all time, and I'd rather the status quo not be that everyone love the game unconditionally. Having a smaller but more dedicated fanbase keeps games/series from turning to shit.

>>2372526
>sephiroth- Tom hiddleston

Between Sephiroth and movie Loki I wonder which character has the most fans saying they're not a monster, just a misunderstood baby?

I'll bet Scarlet can cuck me like a pro.
Fuck...I WANT IT!!

>>2377387
Dude, relax.

I think one of the greatest things about FFVII is the way Sephiroth is introduced. Let's try to remember how it is when first discovering the game.

First of all, when you start the game, there is no Sephiroth. The main vilain is Shinra Corp, and everything points out that it's going to remain that way (although j-rpg fans know that it's a classic way to introduce the real vilain after a first sub-vilain, not everyone would expect that)

You get captured by the Shinra, you're in jail and totally failed your mission, after a very hard time getting into the HQ you can't even make it to the top.... But then Sephiroth gets in like it's nothing at all and kills the vilain, where you failed miserably, which establishes him not only as stronger than you (he succeeded where you failed) but stronger than what was the villain of the game so far, against whom you failed.

In that scene, it's a real massacre with blood everywhere and a fitting heavy, gloomy music. That's when you hear rumours about him. About how strong and evil people claim he is.

Remember, you still don't know how he even looks.

You finally discover how he looks during Cloud's first flashback; and at this point it's real genius. You fight alongside him in battle, except you're lvl1, barely do any dmg, get killed in battle, while Sephiroth wrecks the shit out of that strong dragon. You can even open the menu and see how strong he is, so the strenght comparaison with the protagonists is real genius.
Then of course we all know how the scenes in Nibeilhem during the flashbacks...

But I just wanted to point out how well told his introduction is. It's my favourite part of the game's story. I like FF8 more but in comparaison, Ultimecia's introduction, and even her being, is far from being as well developed and told.

One thing I never understood about the world of FF7. People talk about the world before Shinra took over like it wasn't that long ago, maybe 30 years or so.
Yet there isn't any indication of a government or anything like that from pre-Shinra days.
Would have been nice to have some kind of subplot about a government in exile or something, just to flesh out the world.

>>2379278

I'm assuming there wasn't any central government, thus making it easier for Shinra to fill the power vacuum.

>>2363221
>If you like the game now, just wait until you learn how to break the materia meta-game.
This, although I wish there were more support materia like Final Attack, Magic Counter, Steal as Well, etc. There is this unrealized potential for a programming minigame in FFVII's materia system. I completely missed out upon it when I first played FFVII but now I just cannot unsee it.

>>2379449
>missed out upon
Err, I meant "missed out on".

>>2379449
What's more is they missed out on giving us a New Game+ so we can spend the whole game experimenting with all the materia.
Oh well, there's always Gamesharks.

>>2368894
>Cloud, with his arrogance and cool attitude
Eureka! Finally I know how to summarize Cloud: he starts out as Raphael and gradually becomes Leonardo.

>>2372620
>Steve Buscemi as Hojo
Quite possibly the best actor alive to play Hojo. Now, get Peter Stormare to act alongside him. I'm not sure who in Shinra he'd be, though.

>>2379542
There's a lot of little subtle changes to Cloud's personality that I never noticed until recently.
Like when you first go on the submarine. The first thing that comes out of his mouth is how being in the sub freightens him, something he would have never said at the beginning of them game.
Fuck, I envy everyone who didn't have their first playthrough as a kid, when most of this stuff flies over your head.

>>2379562
Gast in flashbacks?

>>2365428
>He starts off as an annoying douche and slowly evolves into being a pussy.

How is he a pussy?

>The black just swears a few times and SPOILER! his WHITE daughter turns out not to be his actual daughter, the baby's daddy comes back and wants to kill the black dude and the girl

Nice banal oversimplfication.

>and the brunette with the dolly parton sized jugs pathetically remains in the friend zone

You have the option of dating her.

>because the main character is obsessed with some cocktease in a pink dress who can talk to the ground, and SPOILER ALERT!!! IT TALKS BACK!!!!

Lel.


>If you just took Ferngully, and force fed it 90's animes, threw in a couple robots, lasers and cyberpunk shit, and had just randomly chucked swords and monsters in there and hoped for the best, you would've just formulated FF7. The conception for this game and planning for it is TERRIBLE now that I think about it.

The same could be said for any other game/movie/anime with an environmentalist message.

>>2365428
not sure if bait or just bitter for some reason

It's a shitty game slapped on top of a mediocre anime drama perfectly suited for 12 year olds.

BTW not specifically hating on FFVII. Almost all traditional JRPG's are shit as games. The battle systems are worthless and only seem complex when in reality 99% of the game is accomplished by just bashing X over and over again while occasionally healing. Materia, and the various systems, are just cover ups as they are nothing more than fancy menu systems designed to trick retards into think it is "complex" and "deep".

Final Fantasy VII and most JRPG's would be better off as point and click adventure games so they can focus on the only thing the designers are remotely decent at...the music and story.

And to be honest even the story isn't great but I'll give it a pass as I understand the appeal to young kids who had never seen anything like it at the time.

>>2380143
>would be better off as point and click adventure games

You mean like most oldschool PC WRPGs?

>>2362941

though the ps1 version looks better, the sega cd eternal blue is better balanced and flows better. The bosses are also harder. bosses like borgan, that requiring each turn to be done just right, or face death.

>>2380143
1/10

>>2360695

The big wall, dunno, always wondered how the hell they sprayed that graffitti so high

>>2380143
>The battle systems are worthless and only seem complex when in reality 99% of the game is accomplished by just bashing X over and over again while occasionally healing.

Looks like somebody never played SMT Nocturne.

>>2380143
I always felt the point of my RPGs was to find the strategy to end the fight in as few turns as possible. Usually one.

Yes, surviving is not an issue unless you're speed running it, so JRPGs usually are not 'difficult' games. Although they usually will squeeze you on boss fights unless you are an obsessive optimizer or just overlevelled.

If you don't like the game, don't play?

>>2380143

That's only if you consider the battles the main game. It's also got shitty minigames and shitty puzzles.

>>2380143
The drama in FFVII ranges from mediocre to pretty good but the drama is not the selling point. It is the film noir-like atmosphere of Midgar that sold me on the game. No wonder Square originally wanted to make FFVII a hardboiled detective story.

As for the battle system, yeah, it's primitive. In FFVII case it could have been pretty strategic had they explored the potential of combining materia.

I disagree with you that
>most JRPG's would be better off as point and click adventure games
Adventure games' illogical puzzles are a far worse mechanic than JRPG battles.

Whats the general opinion on the rest of the FF7 compilation?

>>2381373
I don't like them at all and they seem to exist mostly for money milking. VII should've stayed as a standalone story. Some good gameplay in the PSP title but they're just not good in storyline.

Even the fucking FFT cameo gets Cloud wrong, but he barely has anything to say in that game after recruitment so it's a non-issue.

>>2381373
Wish they focused more on building the world at large instead of retconning established shit.

>>2381373
I like the second half of Crisis Core.

>>2381507
>retconning established shit.
The single worst fucking thing about Crisis Core, And you know it'll be the "official" version of events going forward.

>>2372584
>Tom Hiddleston as Sephiroth
>Not casting Jason Statham with a wig

>>2381373
doesn't exist as far as i'm concerned

>>2381373
The Final Fantasy equivalent of the Star Wars prequels.

For every cool idea they had, they'd drag it down with 10 other fucking retarded ones.

>>2360390

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pi9xgOXvTs

This one always gives me a nice warm feeling of nostalgia anytime I hear it.

>>2360298
Now mod it with Ultima Edition and play it again.

>>2381373
can't even play them

>>2382063
Thanks, you now have me imagining JS doing Sephiroth's Dialog and I'm laughing so much my nose is running.

>>2363210
All you need to beat emerald is omnislash 4x cut and lucky 7s trick

>>2366893
u fuckin serious mate

>>2367308
you sure? the chocobo master tells you exactly what to do

>>2382310
>Now mod it with Ultima Edition

Is it worthy?

>>2382702
He doesn't tell you where you need to steal the proper nuts from, does he? I can see how that could put someone at a dead end

Why do the ultimate weapons suck so bad?
No materia growth and they all have some weird gimmick that fucks with your damage output.

>>2365428
some of your points are spot on.
others not so much,

I still play this game for MATRIA system.. it is by far the best battle system of any jrpg for reasons already listed in this thread.

Sephiroth is one of the best bad guys in any game I have ever played except how he dies like a bitch in the end.

having said all that, yes the story is fairly lame and does not age terribly well. for what it is the game itself is a flawed masterpeice and I enjoy it for mainly the system.

If I wanted story Xenogears is my bitch.

I absolutely adore that world. I just love that kind of universe. That art style, the setting, the character designs, the monster designs, everything is just so good. Part of it is that it's the only FF game heavily inspired by anime, and it is inspired by some of the best anime ever. This was the time of cyberpunk, and god damn I LOVE cyberpunk cities.

Something I noticed while watching previews and demos for FF15. I didn't care at all. All the characters looked really bland. And I didn't care about what was over the hill. I didn't care about what the cities looked like. In FF7, I want to explore more of it. I want to get another game just to explore it more.

And here's something that even Square gets wrong about FF7's appeal. Every sequel has a grittier, realistic character designs. That's not it. FF7 is an anime. It's an anime world with anime characters. In any sequel, they should retain that art style.

>>2381548
The worst is the retconning of Rufus's and Tseng's deaths in Advent Children. Especially Rufus's. The "I ducked" aka "muh cool animu one-liner explanation" is bullshit.

>>2381402
>Even the fucking FFT cameo gets Cloud wrong,

That version of Cloud is right after he falls into the lifestream. He's messed up and amnesiac.

>>2382714
I don't know yet. I still need to finish Fallout 2. But it looked fucking outstanding from what I saw, and I'm definitely doing it the minute I decide to play FF7.

>>2382876

yeah, total bs. And what's worse is that reviving him adds nothing.

Oh and that reminds me: The Turks. those lovable goofballs! Oh wait, they were said to be kidnappers, assassins. And they were the ones who collapsed Sector whatever and killed hundreds of people, including some named characters. Marlene was damn near killed in them. Yet as the game progresses the characters never seem to want vengeance for this, and the Turks become more and more lovable goofballs. And it continues in Advent Children.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUKofAGmdT4&list=PLvM8n4ImCmblozmj2Jr9Ux6dpJ3e4fKrS&index=1

FF7 looks nice for modded.

Interesting observation:

1. The bigger character models make very little difference. The camera is so far away from most of them it doesn't make much difference.

2. The PC lighting system is terrible and no one has yet fixed it. The PS1 version has much better battle lighting. The PC version seems to just remove it entirely. The shadows are also sad and pathetic looking.

>>2382876
And then the cherry on top of it all; Sephiroth isn't really dead!
You literally traveled into the afterlife and chopped his soul into a million pieces. Not even with the most retarded video game logic should he come back from that.

Can somebody explain the differences between FF7 and FF8 graphically?

FF8 seems to be so much more appealing aesthetically.

>>2382915
I'm assuming the pre-rendered backgrounds gave them no choice but to use jacked up character models, for some reason.
I may be wrong tho.

>>2382915
>FF8 seems to be so much more appealing aesthetically.

And you're completely wrong. Bland world, bland people.

>>2382915
Background wise, the aim of FF8 was a much cleaner looking future than 7 on purpose.

As for models, the more human-shaped appearance of 8's protags than the other PS1 titles was apparently to match the characters' personalities.

>>2382934
You're deluding yourself if you think FF8 doesn't look better overall.

Anyway, I meant to refer specifically to the character models.

>>2382937
>Anyway, I meant to refer specifically to the character models.

More polies, but they're bland and forgettable.

WHY CAN'T YOU KEEP YOUR BATTLE POINTS IF YOU LEAVE THE BATTLE ARENA?
GODDAMMIT SQUARESOFT. THREE HOURS RIGHT DOWN THE SHITTER.

>>2383004

That places gives you THE BEST shit ever. It's meant to be high risk, high reward.

You get Omni-slash and so many goodies there.

>>2383009
I KNOW THAT.
I DIDN'T EVEN LEAVE ON MY OWN. I WENT TO GO TAKE A SHIT AND WHEN I GOT BACK MY SISTER WAS ON THE CONTROLLER, RUNNING AROUND LIKE AN IDIOT.
SHE LOOKED AT ME AND SAYS "I'm looking for da ponies".
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT CUNT IS TALKING ABOUT.

>>2383020

That's fucking' adorable. It's just a game. You shouldn't take it so seriously. In fact you should have played with her and taken turns together.

>>2383020
shitthatdidn'thappen.txt

>>2383060

My little brother erased a few of my saves on PS1 games.

But then instead of getting mad, I just taught him how to properly save a new game instead of saving over my old one.

>>2372549
NES was my first console, and I still love all those games you listed.

>>2383101
Don't bother. You'll confuse his tiny mind by suggesting that somone could play an old game first and like a new game better.

>getting blowjob from girlfriend
>pretend she is Tifa to make it more pleasurable

T-there's nothing wrong with me, right?

>>2383186
Lying about getting blowjobs and having girlfriends is generally frowned upon.

>>2383186
There's only something wrong if you're picturing that CGI neo-Tifa. She's plain Jane af.

>>2383186
>having a gf

lol fag

>>2382895
The turks are Team Rocket.

>>2383063
My friend deleetd my 100+ hours, gold chocobo, knights of the round, master materia etc save. On purpose.

I put my foot through his TV screen, blew the circuits through his entire house and stormed out. This was in 1999

>>2383241
I accidentally deleted my 100+ hour save while playing Disney's Atlantis. Why they didn't automatically take you to an empty file on a new save like every other game is beyond me.

>>2381373
I think there was really something missing in general from all of them. Maybe it's nostalgia. Or maybe it's because they retconned shit just to say "gotta have Sephiroth!"

Also I felt the movie was boring to sit through. Made me wish I was playing the game more than anything else.

>>2382897
that looks weird as fuk

>>2382761
he actually does

>>2383419
The plot was also pretty stupid. I couldn't believe how dumb those kids were. Does their world not have the equivalent of Stranger Danger?

Whose character arc did you like the most? Maybe it's strange, but for me it was Barret's. A character realizing that he may not be fit to be the leader and coming to peace with it is not a transformation you often see in video games or in Japanese entertainment in general. Barret may be a walking stereotype a some level but his arc is the most complex in the game.

>>2383241
>My friend deleetd my 100+ hours, gold chocobo, knights of the round, master materia etc save. On purpose.
Why would you be friends with jerks?..
>I put my foot through his TV screen, blew the circuits through his entire house and stormed out.
Oh wait, you both probably were "those kids".

>>2382286
knew what it was before opening the link. good choice.

>>2383569
More like not fit to be a father.

>>2382698
Yes. FFVII is shit compared to Septerra Core.

I mean, the worst part of SC was
>horrible dungeon design
>lots of trash mob fighting

FFVII had both of those too but it also had worse characters, worse writing and worse setting.

sup guys. i had my third playthrough of ff7 last year after beating it in 2000 and then again in 2007 or so.

one thing i really noted for the first time for some reason was how flirtatious and playful and cheeky aeris was. she's not meek at all. i'm a tifa man but that playthrough really re-established my appreciation for her character.

>>2383226
No, I was imagining her low-poly model.

>>2366893
Well considering SC ripped off FFVII in the first place, it doesn't really count.

>>2383792
And before you ask no, I don't think FF7 is the greatest game ever as there are plenty of games which are far superior to FFVII i.e Chrono Trigger and Breath of Fire 4 which aren't piss-poor FF7 derivatives.

>>2383792
To be fair, just about every RPG at the time took something from VII in some way due to it's sales.

>>2383792
Except it didn't?

SC didn't rip off FF VII any more than it ripped off any other JRPG with that type of combat. It's plot and setting is nowhere near as retarded as FF VII's.

If anything, SC's combat is superior as well, since the game pauses when you select a character who can do an action.

>>2383237
>The turks are Team Rocket.

That's what they became. But Team Rocket didn't murder hundreds.

>>2383880
>If anything, SC's combat is superior as well, since the game pauses when you select a character who can do an action.

You can change that setting in FFVII's options. And SC had tedious as fuck combat, much worse than FFVII's (or that of any other JRPG barring FFXIII and Ni No Kuni)

>>2384465
It only gets tedious late game, for the first 50% of the game it is much faster than FF VII.

>>2384470
I never found FFVII's combat tedious, probably due to the low challenge level.

>>2383590
>Septerra Core
I haven't played it but from what I've heard it plays like a WRPG despite manga-style graphics, right? Does it have a high-res patch like Planescape?

>>2384498
It's a literal wapanese game.

>>2384523
Is it linear, though?

>>2384528
It's a wannabe JRPG so of course.

>>2384528
All wapanese games are linear.

At least with Septerra you can do a bit free will exploring once you get your own ship.

>>2384542
>All
Metal Max Returns says hi.

>>2384890
No that's Japanese, SC is a JRPG made by western devs and is thus wapanese.

>when a person, or any life form for that matter, dies their energy, memories/experiences, etc rejoin with the lifestream
>when a planet dies its energy ????

>>2379278
Worlds in JRPGs never made any sense, but it's fun to imagine what the writers left out. My interpretation of FF7's world before Shinra took over is it was some sort of post-peak-oil, post-apocalyptic libertarian society. This is evidenced by the lack of public infrastructure and large cities in most of the world, sort of like in Mad Max. Whatever infrastructure that existed before was destroyed through the ravages of time. Amongst these mostly self-sufficient, independent towns or city states, one eventually became powerful. This city state is named Shinra. It discovered Mako energy and the technology to harness its power. With the vast wealth gained from its energy business, Shinra was able to obtain a large military force and conquer the whole world with it.

>>2382915
FF7 they had no idea what the fuck they were doing and had to learn the PS1's quirks as they went.

FF8 looks the way it does because of what they learned making FF7.

>>2383826
So Final Fantasy VII was the Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare of its time?

>>2385713
Yes. They were both enjoyable but vastly overrated games, both represent the jumping of the proverbial shark by their respective series, and both are widely hated by hipsters and contrarians not because of the games themselves but what grew out of them since their release (the frequently rabid and obnoxious fanbases, the impact they had on the industry for better or worse, the publishers milking them for all their worth and then some etc.)