/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1651856
>-enemies constantly wander off screen so you can't see them but they can still hit you from there
Don't stand near the edges of the screen, and be ready to react ti El Gado's antics.

>-it's nearly impossible to not get surrounded by guys since someone's always flipping or steamrolling into the fray, which means...
>-...once they land one punch on you you're basically finished, since they combo it into 3-4 more hits which take off half a life bar instantly
>-you can do your special move sure, but you're losing health that way too

Use your special the second you get hit. You will lose less health in the long run.

>-Andores can kill you in 2 attacks, not to mention jumping on you repeatedly when you are on the ground and can't defend yourself

Be careful around them, use weapons, etc.

And your main method of attack, if you can manage it, should be grabs followed by knees. It does more damage than anything. Also, if you have the breathing room, you can infinite all of the enemies by turning around after the second punch, then turning around to resume punching.

Also, practice crowd control. Grabbing an enemy is good for damage but also because you can send him flying into a group of his buddies to give you some breathing room.

Final Fight is a motherfucker of a game.

1) Stick to Cody, at least for now. The main advantage he has over the rest is the fact that once he picks up a knife, the attack comes out almost instantly. So if you're getting bumrushed by a horde of El Gados, make your way to a knife, get your back to the wall and start stabbing like a maniac. You just might come out of it without a scratch.

2) This is not an issue if you're playing the SNES version, but it's essential that you figure out a way to move between the flames in the Industrial Area unscathed. Find a horizontal plane that allows you to safely walk between the fires and forget about moving vertically until you get through.

3) Memorize all of the instances when the barrels start rolling towards you. Git gud enough to break all three of them every time.

5) There's a shitton of secret item pickups hidden in the last level, including a couple of 1-ups. Check behind every column, you'll need every single one.

Good luck, /vr/o.

If you're playing alone, the best character by far is Haggar. He's the most manageable, anyway. However, it becomes a very boring piledriverfest.

If you're playing with Cody/Guy, do part of your combo, grab the enemy, knee, knee, throw them.

>>1651856
Watch the Kacho play. Then, do the opposite.
His overuse of specials leads to his premature demise constantly. Use them only when absolutely necessary. Breaking your own punch combo with Cody by punching in the opposite direction will allow you to pummel an enemy to death without knocking him down or off screen and leave you vulnerable. Its also a good practice for when you may be surrounded and shouldn't be special spamming.

It's not possible to get good at this genre without cheezing the hell out of everything right? I've played a bunch of these but they all get unfair as shit towards the end.

NOT SO FAST MIKE

TURN ON YOUR TV....

>>1652113

I found Final Fight to be a lot more fair than similar games. Typically I'd throw enemies as much as possible to keep them on one side.

>>1652116
A good toss into a crowd of dudes definitely helps the cause.

>>1652115

YEEEAAAARGGH HAHAHAHA!
YEEEAAAARGGH HAHAHAHA!

>>1652125
That dude's laugh is forever burned into my brain.

>>1652115
Since I don't want to derail this one,
>>>1652134
Dedicated TehBoobs.png thread.

>>1652125

I could never work out if he was a black dude with blonde dreadlocks or a white rasta with a tan

>>1652137
The pic of him smiling on the tv confused me for sure...def looked rasta, but by the time you see him he looks like a grimey white dude.

tfw maki will never be a real person

>>1651856
Oh, this is rich. You mention "brutally unfair" yet you upload a screenshot of the easy-as-pie SNES version.

This is easily one of the most shallow and frustrating beat-em-ups I've ever played, which is bizarre given its popularity compared to The Punisher or Bare Knuckle. I guess it just got more exposure in its time.

>>1652137
>>1652147

I always thought he looked like Lil' Jon.

>>1652624
Don't call a game shallow just because you're not good at it. Furthermore, you're comparing Final Fight to two beat'em ups that are notorious for being easy. Maybe you should stick with your easy games.

>>1651856
The bosses have moments of invincibility too, your attacks will go straight through them and then they counter you and fuck you up. It's such a bullshit game.

The biggest crime of Final Fight is that this badass mofo right here >>1652125 has never been incorporated into the Street Fighter games except as a spectator in the background of a stage. What I wouldn't give to see Damnd and Dee Jay going at it.

>>1652137
I like to think he's a black guy with bleached hair.

>>1653028 again

I got curious and looked, wiki says he's "a large Afro-Caribbean man (from the Dominican Republic)"

So I guess he is black.

>>1652624
FF arcades were pretty widespread and, correct me if I'm wrong, it was on the main SNES beat em up as well, so that's what it owes it's popularity to. Like a lot of them then, completely exposed by SoR2.

They should've given you more than one button to attack. Also some way to block would've been nice.

>>1653072
Final Fight 3 has more attacks. Still one attack button though. Don't need any more than that.

And it has a backstep that allows you to dodge.

Although it ends up being really easy because of all that. Enemies pretty much can't touch you. On top of that, the game throws lives at you like crazy. And you have super moves that do a ton of damage.

It's fun, but it's way too easy.

Seriously as a kid whenever i saw that guys huge demon toothed grin on the huge arcade screens and that maniacal laugh i always thought to myself " Im not sure i wanna play that game...he looks scary enough on the television screen let alone face him in a fight!"

>>1651856
This is what you get for not playing Bare Knuckle.

>>1653197
Final Fight > Bare Knuckle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alN18DKc0vU

>>1653373

I hope you are comparing the arcade version of FF with the first SOR, because the second one totally rape the whole FF series. I prefer Final Fight 2 and Mighty Final Fight much more than FF1 and FF3.

>>1653373
final fight has shit tier music

>>1653432
>Preferring Final Fight 2 over the arcade original.
Final Fight 2 kinda sucked. They added 2P mode, but somehow made everything else was worse. The only good thing to come out from that game was Maki.

Streets of Rage 2 is on par with the arcade Final Fight, but kinda overrated in my book.

>>1653373
Well that playthrough was a thing of beauty.

>>1653197
>Bare Knuckle.
You're not Japanese. Get out.

Anyone here have the Sega CD version?

I found it at a thrift store a while back, and the voice acting is pretty cool.

>>1653613
>Anyone here have the Sega CD version?
I played it once. It's pretty serviceable, but they make everyone's attack speed slow as fuck.

>>1653464

>The only good thing to come out from that game was Maki.


While I like FF2, I agree completely. It's a shame she appeared very little in other titles though.

The thing about beat em ups is you are never supposed to get hit. Like NEVER

you are supposed to do your suicide attack BEFORE you lose control over the fight.

If you get hit 2 things happen.
1) you lose health, way more than you would have lost if you did a suicide attack
2) all the enemies will move into unmangable positions.

The suicide attacks removes a very, very low amount of your health. You can do about 15 of them before you are dead. If you play correctly the healing in the levels is more than enough to cover it.

Final fight (and all 2d beat em ups) are games about positioning and crowd control. You want to position yourself and enemies (remember you can change where enemies are by using throws) so that you are never flanked. Change your position on the Y axis often to confuse enemeis. If you are facing enemies on multiple sides of the screen stay mobile and abuse the invunability frame on throws.

Throws in final fight are escpially good because the invunability time is so long and the tossed enemies travel very far compared to other beat em ups.

One of the most importaint techniques to learn is to jump towards enemies, using the down+attack command to stun them than immediently throw them when you land. Its nearly impossible for enemies to counter this combo because you are in the air or invunerable the entire duration.

When you grab an enemy don't throw him immdiently. Wait until several enemies have lined up in front of your first to hit them all with it.

To counter enemies gap closer (big bull head butt, andre jump, holleywood's dive attack) never stand on the same Y axis as them fro too long. Holleywood and poisen love to jump at you. Abuse their ai by baiting them into a jump than dodging them and countering with a grab.

It should also be noted that final fight is a difficult game even by standards of other beat em ups.

I can get to the 5th level on 1 credit in violent storm and metamorphic force but only the 3rd level in final fight.

>>1652054
>However, it becomes a very boring piledriverfest.
>Haggar
>boring

You take that back right now.

>>1652054
Spoken like some casual gamer who only got to the third level. I fucking dare you to play like that and one-coin the arcade version. Only newbs use the pile driver with Haggar; if you're aiming to one-coin the game you'll use 1 pile driver for every 50 suplexes.

>>1654126
Dude, I wouldn't bother trying to teach these kids about the art of beat'em ups. They'll never learn.

>>1654238
>Dude, I wouldn't bother trying to teach these kids about the art of beat'em ups. They'll never learn.

Shut the hell up and piss off. We actually have a thread here full of constrictive ways for OP to get better at the game as well as an actual discussion of the FF series. You aren't contributing anything to the thread but a retarded elitist attitude that no one asked for.

>>1653985
A better question is what happened to Carlos. And Dean. And Lucia. Quite a bit of characters that rotted away in the IP vault.

>>1654263
I've always liked Carlos. He should be used again.

>>1653464

Dunno, FF2 is the only game I feel I'm really smashing thugs faces. FF1 is really, really repetitive sometimes, and FF3 doen't feel satisfying to me when I start piledriving and kicking asses, the game is pretty easy. Also, I don't give a fuck to Maki and Carlos, I only played with Haggar in the trilogy.

I used to play this game as a kid
Could never finish it thigh

>>1654329
Same. That third level would kick my ass.

>>1652238
I know that feel.

Isn't Maki just Capcom's version of Mai? They're really similar in how they look, I'm not surprised they're hesitant to use her.

>>1655359
Don't be shy, you've earned it.

>>1655359
Maki was mostly forgotten until she appeared on Capcom vs SNK 2. She's not really the same kind of character as Mai, because Maki is very rude and has a "bancho" (gang boss) attitude. They even allude to it in CvS2, where she has an intro with Yamazaki (a mob boss).

Also she's Guy's sister-in-law, and is butthurt because he was chosen as successor of Bushinryu, even though he failed to protect Rena (Haggar, Maki and Carlos saved her).

>>1655359
One is a love interest for one of the main characters in the Fatal Fury series, a fighting game and has had many appearances in various series.

The other is a former gang leader from an oft-forgotten game in a beat-em-up series and has rarely been seen outside of it.

>>1654225

On a related note, can someone tell me the down and dirty version of why hero Cody is a prisoner in doze Street Fightas?

>>1655396
He's an adrenaline junkie who likes street fighting.

>>1655396
It's all explained in Final Fight: Revenge, a mediocre fighting game for the Sega Saturn. The story goes that, after Mad Gear was disbanded, Poison and Edi.E (the corrupt police officer) pinned their crimes on Cody, and that's why he was arrested. It doesn't help that Cody loves to punch people so much that he said he would probably be arrested even if the Mad Gear thing never happened.

>>1655397
>>1655405
Ah, word. Kinda tragic. Dude's willing to beat the fuck out of an entire city's gang population to rescue his squeeze and for the burly mayor.

Has anyone counted the number of enemies you defeat in beat em ups? I like to consider how impressive your feat would be applied to real life. That's 'on your way to becoming Fist of the North Star' level shit.

>>1655413
Jessica breaks up with him because he can't stop picking fights.
In the ending itself, Guy punches him because he's being an ass. Although Guy still believes Cody is a hero at heart, since he doesn't pick fights with innocents (most of the time).

It's implied that he could fight any of the heavy-hitters (Ryu, Bison, Sagat) if he goes all-out.

>>1655424
Wasn't it Oni that said something like that?

>>1655427
Yeah. Cody also says that he has the most fun when fighting Ryu (he says it to Dan or Evil Ryu, I forgot which).

>>1655393
>Maki is very rude and has a "bancho" (gang boss) attitude.

That's disappointing. She always seemed so sweet and pure.

>>1655453
They're kindred spirits across franchises.

>>1655393
I think it behooves a woman who dresses like that and does what she does to act like a ricky ross boss.

>>1655456
After 2:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwJI8xD7UPo

>>1655471
I miss special intros

>>1655471
>Ken tossing Terry his hat
Thanks for reminding me we'll never see a CvS3

>>1652125

HOOO-OAGH!

>>1655625
What is with that shoulder belt strap? Are those a real thing? It always seemed weird to me.

>>1655635

Somebody's askin' for a piledrivin'.

>>1655635
I think its just how shirtless ex-streetfighting wrestlers keep their pants up. One suspender. Don't want to cover too much of that bod.

>>1653373

He doesn't stop talking ONCE for the fifty minute duration of that video. Either he knew a lot about that game or he's insane.

>>1653591
This is you.

It took a long time to beat this game but I managed to do it.
Don't stand near the edge of the screen.
Use cody, then haggar, then cody again.