/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
SUM TING /VR/Y WONG
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/10413464
https://archive.org/details/shadow-warrior-mapping-kit

/Vertex Relocation/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/10592017


=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
AD MORTEM FINAL CUT (v1.5.6)
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3exnqm8nxg4gukhj10hcp?rlkey=r5nwzu32pfh2dtefpbjy2p49b
Ad Mortem Guns (DECORATE): https://files.catbox.moe/ihv4l4.zip

=== WHEN IT'S DONE ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/9941720

=== NEWS ===
[3-22] Autistic internet gossip forum makes a .wad, follow the post for a link >>10794530

[3-20] /arena/ is back in a new home
>>>/vm/1214803

[3-19] Sewer Jam for Quake 2 Remastered is Out!
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/quake-2-re-release-sewer-jam-volume-1

[3-17] Anon remembered that Freedom exists and it was updated
https://freedoom.github.io/

[3-17] nugget 3.0 released:
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/tag/nugget-doom-3.0.0
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2779971

[3-17] Speedmappack 228 for Quake released, 18 maps all using vanilla gameplay and textures, no Copper whatsoever
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/sm228-vanilla.335/

[3-16] CLASSIC MARATHON will be released for Free on Steam soon!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/

[3-16] Doom 2 in City Only Released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/143936-doom-2-in-city-only-rc1

[3-16] Wrath entitites file has finally released. Mapfags can now make new levels.
https://github.com/Official3DRealms/wrath-mapping

[3-15] Chex Quest 3: Vanilla Edition makes CQ3 playable without ZDoom
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/143907/

[3-14] Quakespasm Spiked updated, now a dozen times faster. Can play any map at 60+ fps.
https://fte.triptohell.info/moodles/qss/

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [dd-mm] date bracket)

RIP that other thread I guess.

>>10803348
I gotta at least give the Shadow Warrior mapping kit a look to see how useable it is. What I really liked about Shadow Warrior is how it and Duke made usage out of cheesy cliches of their respective parodied subjects but played it straight enough that it managed to keep an enjoyable experience even if you ignore the satire and take it at face value.

That said some of those levels / key hunts sucked ass.

How did they managed to make Dimension of the Machine so good when Dimension of the Past was so mediocre?

>>10803360
One came after the other. They just got better at making maps anon.

>>10803360
Just look at this skybox. Look at it. If there's such thing as too much sex, it's this one.

>>10803360
I gotta play that. I played all the Quack episodes when the remaster came out and xpacks too but not the nightdive added ones. I will probably enjoy dimension of the machine a lot since I really scourge of armagon.

How does it lend itself to be played without mid level saves? And what should be a good difficulty level to pick for it if I completed the base game on hard?

What's your retro fps ''backlog'' looking like? What are you working on finishing or mapping for?

I'm trying to muster up energy to play through the Quake 2 remaster's expansion packs and then maybe Q64 just so I can have all the steam cheevos.

Then playing Ion Fury : Aftershock and Dark Forces.

What're you all working on?

1) edited shawn i found
2) shawn i made from scratch
3) slade converted result
Doing pretty gradients is tricky huh, I wanted something smoother

>>10803389
My backlog is pretty much all modding work for Doom 2. I would like to finish one project this year, but I have a lot of work to do before I get there. Right now the list looks like this:

>Finish GMOTA
>Take a month off
>Combined_Arms update
>Roland
>Take a break
>Relic
>Finish Combined_Arms

I should look into playing more FPS games rather than just modding them all the damn time.

>>10803373
They're not by Nightdive, Machine Games made them, the guys who made all Wolfenstein games from The New Order onwards.
Played them on hard with mid-saves. It's more difficult then Q or MP1, but not that much. Almost all levels are sub-20 minutes with all secrets hunting, so even if you die it's not the end of the Earth.

Also quacute!

Is quacute actually a thing?

>>10803396
>from The New Order onwards
I'm confused a bit, do you mean The New Order AND onwards or someone else made TNO and then the subsequent ones were picked up my MachineGames?

>>10803417
Come on anon, it's not THAT hard to check wiki on your own. Yes, they made all Wolfenstein games starting with The New Order. Even the godawful Youngblood and Cyberpilot, which they developed together with Arkane Studios, though as I understand Arkane did most of the godawful job with them.

>>10803417
NTA but it's the former
MachineGames did TNO, TOB, TNC, and Youngblood

Anyone here played Mortyr? If so, is it worth bothering with?

>>10803360
One was a free release celebrating the 20th Quake anniversary, the other was financed as part of the Bethesda-published port.
I'll need to play through Machine again sometime. Very safe difficulty meant few memorable encounters, something that made me look more favorably upon Past, but it was super gorgeous.

>>10803389
I'm basically just getting started.

Playing through Doom 2 and Duke Nukem 3D at the moment.

>>10803389
Quake 2 expansions and Quake 2 64
Doom 3
Might play Dread Templar since I already have it but idk, something about it looks so...off
Amid Evil replaythrough and then the DLC since I just got it

>>10803153
kek it reminds me of that scene from better call saul

>>10803392
Doom's palette has a limited range of yellows. You'll need to get to dithering if you want smoothness.

is there a wolf3d mod where you play as the nazis?

>>10803395
>C_A before Roland

What's to be done there?

>>10803550
Probably was on some old GeoCities website somewhere.

Okay that's enough Quake history for now.

>>10803353
What happened to it? janitor, OP deletion, or Moderator action?

>>10803559
Does it matter? The OP was all fucked up and didn't have a news post after 2 hours.

>>10803396
>

>>10803559
The OP and news post was fucked up I think? Janny autism I guess.

what are your favorite weapon mods/wads/pk3 that you use for other mods/maps?

I used to use Brutal Doom Lite but lately I've been using Quick Charge which is an offshoot of Super Charge. I like it because it ONLY changes weapons and I can use it with voxel doom and other mods without worrying it'll fuck with anything else.

>>10802471
>In which ways? I've always seem HR2 as an improvement of what HR1 was. Both map design and looking. Even the OST is more iconic.
I feel HR1 had much stronger highs than 2 when it came to the good maps. Almost all of the remakes in 2 were inferior.
1's weakest maps were mostly just amateurish and forgettable, where as 2's weakest maps were some of the most miserable examples of hard gameplay I've ever experienced.

>>10803551
I'd like to add Livewire and King's Court. Those sets are gonna be really fun.

what do you anons use to play maps? just load up [sourceport] and do "game [example]"?
That's fine for most things I have but it gets a bit tedious and I forget what the fuck some folders even are sometimes.
Would be nice if I could click drag like with doom wads

>>10803620
Doom Launcher or Doom Runner is the closest to that I think.

>>10803581
>what are your favorite weapon mods/wads/pk3 that you use for other mods/maps?
For awhile it's been Babel and Deathstrider, GMOTA for violent fun melee. Right now it's Deathstrider with Babel monsters through Abscission.

>>10803620
>>10803642
should have specified, mb. I meant for specifically quake maps.
I don't think doom launcher runs quake stuff does it?

I usually play doom through gzdoom, but I've been switching back and forth between a total conversion and vanilla, and keep having to change my settings each time. What's the best way around this? Do I have to use a duplicate GZdoom install just for the TC?

>>10803732
Easiest way is to use a launcher like Doomrunner and store settings for different mods in different .ini files.

>>10803650
>>10803620
Ironwail has a built in mod menu as well as mouse support. There's also the Simple Quake Launcher.

Anyone else feel like the custom midis in a lot of PWADs don’t fit with Doom, like at all, or am I just being a grognard? Stuff like BTSX sounds like an old school space shmup or something to me, so I often just play something from Doom or Quake on YouTube instead.

>>10803745
As someone who prefers more ambient tracks like Suspense, Sign of Evil, The Demons from Adrian's Pen and the Hodges PSX/D64 soundtracks, I would say that Doom covers a wide palette of tones and moods and what "fits Doom" is highly subjective.

>>10803770
For sure, I tend to prefer the more ambient tracks as well actually, and I agree that it is indeed highly subjective. I guess what I mean is that to my ears custom midis with a few exceptions don’t come close to either the harder “metal” stuff from Doom, or the atmospheric.

How 1-to-1 do you think someone can get in re-creating Duke Nukem 3D in a (relatively vanilla) Quake port? Most obvious issue I see is the shrink ray not being feasible due to collision hulls.

>>10803781
Despite my preferences, I don't mind wads having a bit of fun with their music. Doom 2 in Spain Only is one of my favorite megawads, and its soundtrack is a huge part of the wad's humor.
https://youtu.be/xcmvGc5VKvw?t=1977
The only time I switch up the music or turn it off is if I'm on a map for a while and the MIDI gets grating, or I'm playing a slower gameplay mod like Hideous Destructor (same thing, really.)

>>10803356
Glad to hear it man, there's an hour long tutorial that goes over the basics of Mapster32 and Build mapping for all skill levels, psyched to see what you come up with.

>>10803349
>final large tnt trash

>>10803349
>gmota features kustam
I mean
it does

>>10803741
>Ironwail has a built in mod menu as well as mouse support
Would love this for doom.

>>10803745
Everything fits Doom, though I do prefer tracker tunes to midi. Midi always sounded like ecard/web 1.0 fansite more than video game music. I would love to have a Yamaha MU80 to rectify that, since soundfonts never really cut the mustard for me. Even Adlib sounds like I'm "missing something" when I hear it. Ironically MP3 stuff is the most out of place sounding.

These are all nitpicks mind you.

>>10803843
Bullshit.

>>10803360
I liked Past.
>>10803389
Playing Back to Saturn X: Episode 1.
>>10803791
Levellord worked SoA so it would probably be like that.

>doom released half a century ago

>>10803935
>Super Mario Bros. released 80 years ago

>>10803349
>imagine physics

>>10803650
You didn't need to specify, boo. It was clear what you meant.

>>10803505
Attempt no. 2
>It looks worse now

>>10804006
What is it you're trying to do?

>>10803345
I find it funny how the tranny jannies here just straight up ignored the Kiwifarms Mapping Project post.

>>10803581
>favorite weapon mods
I need to dig into the weapon mods more but I really like the weapon mod contained in 1048 units of /vr/ and 512 Linedefs. Mostly for a slick model, firing cycle and weapon sound of the pistol. The super shotgun also gets a really good makeover and is actually fun to use compared to vanilla SSG that sounds pretty lame.

>>10804020
It's in the newspost.

>>10804020
What were they supposed to do? Delete it so you can post some variation of "FUCK JANNIES" and then delete that post too?

>>10804012
Experimenting with gfx software for leisure, probing tools available. Yours does look much nicer, I was remaping colors through slade for mine.

There's an old YouTube video from 2005-2009 I can't find anymore of a YTP themed mod for some old shooter (Jedi Knight perhaps). It had the usual Zelda CDi soundbytes:
>Bombs! Bombs! Bombs!
>Illegal! Illegal! Illegal!
I think the floor was white and the boss was the guy shouting illegal whenever he took damage.

>>10804051
Something like this perhaps?
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67000

>>10804089
No, I don't believe it was a Doom mod, I think it was fully 3D game. Plus it'd be a lot older than that (2005-2009)

>>10803648
That's exactly what I'm doing, with Wraith. I'm also doing a Solomon run in another wad with Project Malice instead of Babel. I think I'm enjoying the good ol' flesh and steel more than the spellcasting, which trivializes everything unless you restrict yourself, which defeats the whole point of having spells in the first place.

>>10804051
Super Robotnik Land?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ-uBusgXHE

>>10804037
Use a proper sprite editor like aseprite. It has a hue/saturation slider that works within your chosen pallette. That's what I did.

>>10804103
Nah, it was for an FPS. That channel rocks though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqWfrDe655I

>>10803389
>What's your retro fps ''backlog'' looking like?
Finally started playing WRATH: Aeon of Ruin. It's fine so far. My backlog is more varied and not set in stone.

>>10803581
High Noon Drifter, Deathstrider, Hideous Destructor, Treasure Tech(update never), GMOTA.

>>10802759
>>10802746
How do I combine different mods like this in Quake1?

>>10803935
Less than a month from 4/20

>>10803554
AoP needs a mapjam badly, if only because how their meathook-grinder trap was used in only 1 level and the startmap itself.

>>10804102
Wraith’s great but I loved going through with good-aligned spells as Soloman. I also feel Babel monsters really increase the difficulty compared to Malice monsters.
>>10804243
You put the map and assets in the folder of the mod you want to play it with, but it’s very likely to be messed up if you’re not playing a vanilla map or something intended for a different mod. The “Episode Enyo” mod used Alkaline as a base and supports a chunk of its maps, but it doesn’t support all the custom Alkaline enemies.
I’ve also tried playing Copper-based maps through Reliquary, though the latter hasn’t been updated in forever.

>>10803741
In case you (or someone else) don't know, you can set any custom names for any mods for this Ironwail menu.
Open alk07 folder, create new text file there, write "Egyptian Myth" inside it, and then rename the file to "descript.ion"

If I wanted to change things up, what are some good, preferably generally fitting additional gameplay, weapons, or enemy mods that'll go well with Lullaby?

>>10803745
I agree, although vanilla Doom is compatible with a wide range of tones I don’t think all midis fit it that well. Like BTSX music is great, but if pay attention to how it scores demon murder it doesn’t work.

Its partly why stuart rynn frustrates me. Great music, phenomenal even. But its not for Doom.

does anyone not really like video games but love doom and only doom?

>>10804493
I love other games. But my mood is substantially worse if I don’t play Doom.

>>10804493
Yeah but nothing cuts it quite like Doom so Doom it is.

>>10804471
After “The Healer Stalks”, the sky is the limit for me regarding “fitting Doom music” with how sweetly it fits.

>>10803581

>>10804493
some diablo here and there but doom is my main game. I play and replay and then play again the original, then get to mods.

>>10804493
Nah. I love other games as well. But Doom is a great palate cleanser for when I get tired of a lot of other games.
Boot up Doom 1 or a nice "only saves in level start" kind of custom wad and blast away.
Love me some FromSoft games, actual RPGs,STALKER, third person actions games and so on.
The most miserable times in my gaming life have been when I get locked down into a single game / series for a long time, it goes from enjoying digital magic to almost work-like chore.

>>10804051
Yeah that was the craazycat video for Dark Forces II. God that shit is old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdhc4hJ9x9w

>>10804864
This video was in the deepest reaches of my mind. Thanks archeologist anon!

>>10804585
I always get a relaxed and goofy vibe from Healer, that kind of meshes with the cheesiness of Doom. Stewboy is fanciful in his tunes, which does match gnarling demons and loud guns.

>>10804493
>modern games too expensive for same things I've played but worse
>have full time career now so can't keep up with friends in MMOs or other progression based games anymore
>also makes it tougher to gather interest and coordinate a game night for older games
I still enjoy fromslop and FPS/RPGs but retro shooters have a certain place in gaming for me that I'll always go back to if I just want to have fun

test

>>10804414
I did NOT know that and it's super cool. Normally I don't give a shit about this sort of thing but I'm actually gonna mess with this right now. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I'll be sure to spread the word elsewhere as well.

So what's everybody been playing lately?

I've been slowly going through the Abysm series, it's been a bit ropey in places but I've been having fun with it.

>>10805192
(Very) slowly peeling through mapjam6. I think this is going to turn out to be one of my favorite Quake mappacks; the fire and brimstone aesthetic fits Quake like a glove.

>>10805192
I did a "no magic" run when I did abysm
It was pretty fun, the blunderbuss turns into an absolute monster weapon, just stacking dex

>>10805202
I'll probably do that the next time I play it through, magic was just way too tempting, especially with those rings that give black/white mana back from using the wand.

>>10805192
How did you get past the fatal fps drops?

II don't even remember if I posted ones from week before last.

Mapping music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTl3pHq8bzU

>>10805192
Trying to avoid the >>10804846
>The most miserable times in my gaming life have been when I get locked down into a single game / series for a long time, it goes from enjoying digital magic to almost work-like chore.
So i am playing a couple of different WADs at the same time with some breaks.
Doom the Way id Did using Delta Doom
The Alfonzone using Combined Arms Gaiden mod
And JPCP with Final Doomer arsenal, pic related.

>>10805286
brutal

>>10805319
I really thought he fell through the floor, even though that usually doesn't make sense in doom.

>>10804493
desu I don't really like doom either

>>10805336
What do you enjoy that's relevant to the classic FPS thread on the video game retro board of 4channel.org then, anon?

>>10805339
he's looking for a wife with a dick

>>10805352
That's a husband.

>>10805339
I am kinda burnt out on games so I just come here when I think my mind might have changed but it hasn't yet

>>10803345
>kiwiDOOM
it sucks, badly.

>>10805375
That's a shame. I hope you find what you're looking for.

>>10803348
minor updates to MAP07 of vertex relocation:
https://files.catbox.moe/wx1ix2.wad
>fixed some weird off-by-2 vertex positions in the west side of the main room
>merged some sectors
>change floor/ceiling flats near switches
been thinking of adding some minor details like making the railings have some volume to them

>>10803550
The reskin in WolfTNC

>>10805261
Weirdly I only got them in a couple places in the expansions, my system's not super over the top or anything so I probably just lucked out on the least fucked version and setup of GZDoom to run it on.

>>10805417
dude, a fucking link? you think i can google "wolf3d mod where you kill the jews?"

>>10804493
I like both quite a bit. Although I'm more of a Quake & Hexen person, DOOM is good too.
>>10804846
>I get locked down into a single game / series for a long time
Funnily enough, that's how it's been for me not that long ago (DOOM Eternal was recent exception to that). If I'm playing the game, I'm sticking to it specifically. Nowadays it's been Stardew Valley and some random game with Heroes of the Storm regaining my attention every once in a while.
And yeah, fixating on one thing can be quite exhausting. Especially if it's a long game and/or you're a slow player. That's one of the reason why I would like to focus on smaller games for the near future.

>>10805565
you can look up the new colossus on google, find a wolfenstein wiki, and look at the easter eggs

>>10805602
ohh, i mean the old wolf3d kek, i'll check that one too anyway thank you

>>10805246
yo is that the Tour version of the track?

>>10805634
It's an original layout as far as I can tell, just using some of the SMK textures included in the base game.

>>10803345
I would like to see Half Life 1 mod that lets you see some more stuff after you make your decision at the end of the game. Both for the ending where Gordon goes ahead with walking into the green light, working for G-Man, and the less fortunate one where you see scores of aliens pitted against you in. Ditto for Decay's ending.

>>10805902
*pitted against you in battle.

>>10805902
>for the ending where Gordon goes working for the G-Man
Literally Half Life 2.

>less fortunate one
Dude he basically kills you.

>>10805385
Ok, but in what way?

>>10804864
YOU'RE A BLOODY LEGEND MATE, CHEERS

What is the best source port and why is it DSDA-Doom?

>>10806085
>not Nugget, Crispy, or Zandronum

>>10805369

>>10806085
>DSDA
Bitch please, everybody knows CnDoom is the best.

>>10806097
What's Cn stand for?

>>10806120
Cunny?

>>10806120
Competition.

>>10806085
Ditched it the moment they rolled out the customizable hud update I think, had some complevel issues and couldn't display level stats on the map overlay for some reason anymore. Woof covers everything of my essential Doom needs atm.

Still keeping this updated: https://rentry.org/doomstuff

Let me know if there is anything to change/add/fix/delete etc.

>>10805902
There's a mod called Half-Life INVASION made by some frenchies where a team of Black Mesa scientists rescue Gordon from G-Man's clutches and the mod goes on from there. It's very high quality for its time.

Finished the Watchtowers of episode 2 Evantide Wastes in Wrath, 3/5 down. Same shit, lack of enemy variety, great looking levels, etc. They introduced a shield bearing enemy that floats, and any enemy caught in its field is protected and you have to enter the field to kill the enemy itself, or the enemies under its protection. It's fine. It's not offensive. That's the most I can say about this enemy.

I think there should be more mancubus clones in video games; the scrapjack in modern Serious Sam games, the Zumbul in Serious Sam TSE, and now this Oppressor in Wrath are really fun to fight, just like the original big guy. Quake needs a mancubus.

Anybody got the doom exes for DOSBox? The link in the pastebin is dead (https://pastebin.com/EzwyW330))

>>10806461
these? https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117694-vanilla-doom-exe-downloads-utilities-wads-more/

>no Powerslave: Exhumed user maps
>Like, literally not even one
>only about 7 Ion Fury user maps

Very sad.

>>10806474
You know what to do anon.

>>10806476
Yeah but I want to play new maps with zero effort. I want others to do all the hard work

>>10806478
Wakarimasen

>>10806479

>>10806486
I'm doing a Powersalve textured Q1 map for VR2 if it helps anon.

>>10806085
>using DSDA
>in 1918+106
lmao
There's zero (0) reason to use DSDA over Woof unless you're a speedtranny or PRBoomer (both bad).

>>10806474
>no Eradicator custom maps
>despite ED supporting Doom linedef importation
Frankly it's almost enough of an outrage to get me out of my chair.

>>10806472
yes, thank you anon

>>10806474
>>10806476
what if we did collabs for games that don't have enough mods

>>10806562
Sure you start

>>10806562
know your audience. the sam project fucking died and shadow warrior is getting like a blip of activity once every month because nobody here wants to map for them.

>>10806592
>the sam project fucking died
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAaKGIqgyvI

>>10806562
How about one collab for multiple games, theme would be based on those bargain bin disks that just had a bunch of fan levels and shareware.

>>10806619
What's this.

>>10806619
reminds me of PC-Play, which turned into a softcore porn thing later on IIRC

>>10806562
>>10806592

The games that don't have enough mods / maps are usually that way for a reason.
It's not that those games are bad but usually it's a question of complexity of the mapping tools and whether the juice is worth the squeeze.

And besides the general tools issue, most games just have very... different appeal in their gameplay in a sense. Doom is the gold standard for attracting mappers because while you CAN make cool and functional looking techbases and city environment brimming with doomcute and sector toilets, it's rarely a requirement and it's usually often enough to have geometry that results in good synergy with the best rounded monster menagerie a first person shooter mapper could ask for.

Whileas in Ion Fury the bar for the maps is insanely high, they're pretty much all insanely detailed lived-in spaces with a lot of unique and sovl easter eggs / references, oft with sprites specifically made for them.

I find the Shadow Warrior project admirable, hopefully it will amount to at least something fun. Gonna have to look up a mapping tut for mapster 32 if there's anything cool I could cook up.

>>10806085

>>10806154
you can do all that, even show the KIS stats in the automap

>>10806154

>>10806474
>>no Powerslave: Exhumed user maps
It's not a Build engine game so that fucked it's chances already.

>>10806680
>>10806681
I prefer to keep stats out hidden and only spoil myself by giving a glance with automap open, yet also not to blind myself with a black screen so it's overlayed. Can't do both of these things as far as I'm aware and currently see, and it doesn't strongly matter as I'm not that bored for engine-hopping. Thanks anyway.

>>10806704
yep, same, i only showed the full hud but i play with the normal hud and no stats, i rarely even check them, spoils + other shit too much

>>10806704
>>10806714
>and only spoil myself by giving a glance with automap open
Should note and mention, that admitedly, I get fucked over anyway when mapper constructs a fake exit and I check the stats right before the marked switch. They're not really meant to be seen unless you're speedrunner.

>>10806715
i might hide it even in the automap (which i rarely check too) and just leave them for the full hud..

>>10806619
A Shovelful of /vr/?

>>10806716
i think the time is the worst of all, fuck how long it takes and fuck speedrunning

>>10806592

>>10806727
>it's seriously over

>>10806619
Multiple games would be cat herding on steroids but something along the lines of Doom 2 in Spain Only but with one of those wad discs might work.

>>10806474
There's a small mapset for Powerslave, along with a mapping guide. Not many people know about it however. The drive link and permutations trigger the spam filter, very cool.

>>10806686
The PC release is Build while the PS1 and Saturn ports are made with an inhouse 3D engine, no idea why Lobotomy did that to themselves.

>>10806592
I should have something worth showing this weekend, sorry for the lack of updates.

>>10806647
Check out the mapping kit man, there's a tutorial that goes over the basics along with text guides. Can't wait to see what you and >>10803356 come up with.

>>10806789
Here's the mapset, the docs link is still fucking me around.

https://lerppu.net/ex/ps_ex_ruinsv1.zip

GZDoom

>>10806742
>tfw no more AAAAAAAAAAA

any good rice mods for doom 1 and 2?

>>10806847
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=46168

>>10806887
>Shadow Warrior
kek, but I'm thinking more pink and flashy anime shit

>>10805192
Skulltiverse. It’s really good so far except for Map 07, which was total bullshit.

>>10806789
>The PC release is Build while the PS1 and Saturn ports are made with an inhouse 3D engine, no idea why Lobotomy did that to themselves.
Powerslave: Exhumed is a weird merging of the two on Nightdive's own engine.

>>10806624
Cool skybox?

SuperQOT is a really cool gimmick, It's a shame it's only a single episode. I feel like enemy placement should be a little more claustrophobic and maybe more enemies to really emphasize playing with the slow motion on, there is no true incentive to. But again, it's pretty cool

>>10806507
what is wrong with DSDA?

How do I turn off my invisibility sphere replacement from glowing in ZDoom in Decorate?

>>10807093
I drew DSDA as the virgin and my port of choice as the chad, that's what.

>>10806507
wtf are you talking about, even nugget is better than woof

>>10807186
nvm worked it out

>>10807093
They took out some minor stuff that did nothing for the port's core purpose and it made some people really sore.

>>10806648
K8vavoom, Nugget, and Zandronum would like to have a word with you!

>>10807405
>useless meme port
>perpetually outdated woof derivative
>utterly stagnant port with fundamentally broken netcode that hasn't been used to play doom since when it was called skulltag

>>10805902
>where you see scores of aliens pitted against you in
You've just Anticlimax.

>>10807072
It only works when you’re not moving, right? It might suit a more realistic/slower shooter, seems at odds with a shooter that encourages movement every second.

>>10807526
just tried, doesn't work that good, deleted

>>10807526
this was exactly my thought, it really doesn't fit quake of all games very werll

>>10805902
>Both for the ending where Gordon goes ahead with walking into the green light, working for G-Man
There wer plenty of those, one was called Absolute Redemption.

Spent last night playing through Func Map Jam 6 - Fire and Brimstone. It's short and simple but I actually like that - I don't mind a nice evening smashing through a couple 15 minute levels each with an interesting nice twist on the aesthetic. And the theme definitely plays into Quake's strengths.

Would it be more fondly remembered today if they made it a System Shock clone?

I don't think this is worthy of its own thread so I'd rather get your opinions.

Anyone know a good source port for Blood that has ammo staying in co-op? Me and my homies tried Fresh Supply but we kept losing our ammo and weapon supplies with each death, and it was getting pretty heated near the end. I want to do Death Wish with them, but every time I suggest Blood they talk about having no ammo and how it ruined the experience for them.

>>10807809
why do you care if other people like it, if you do, play it, if you don't, don't play it and forget about it

it's just a videogame man, tech shit

Wednesday Kart Whatever, come play some SRB2Kart!

How to join (Easy, Windows only):
Download the All-in-one repack: https://mega.nz/file/AzkXSTJK#cxoQ3FD2K-Vg9bKwsvQNkWKxT8LGiCjJEfmPCwXi-eU
Extract it to its own folder (NOT the desktop or program files)
Run "SRB2K-CEP (Connect to vrkart).bat"
Wait for any missing files to download in-game

If you don't have a 64-bit machine/OS for whatever reason: Copy the contents of the 32-bit folder into the main folder

How to join (Normal):
Download version 1.3 of the game: https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/tag/v1.3
Get the custom client we use (Windows): https://mega.nz/file/ncpRjRYZ#yoVkgXmKNUjdh__jHpmUGgh30J7jlj6RIS8XjbTXKeE
Or compile it (Linux or anything else): https://gitlab.com/c3851/srb-2-k-cep
Get the mods: https://mega.nz/folder/MiUiESSa#CyovwTUnO9TSmqbwMI1xBg
Connect to 51.161.34.159 (either use connect in console or "specify ipv4 address" under Multiplayer)

Pastebin with the above and other helpful links: https://pastebin.com/gPdytB18

>>10807809
It's actually remembered better today than it was received back in the day I feel. People almost always cite the atmosphere in it which is really good or the graphics.

People's complaints even today among the doomers I've talked to tend to be either the darkness or the fact that it's not really a ''Doom'' game.

However, the conversation gets completely bogged down to those aspects instead of the bigger elephant in the room which is that the gunplay lacks satisfying feedback. Or much feedback at all. Half Life 2's guns might've sounded really gay even in comparison to Doom 3 but at leadt the enemies acknowledged being shot even before their HP hit zero. It's really aggravating to shoot an enemy only for them to not have any sort of pain flinch and they just continue shooting until either you or they die. Gun sounds are pathetic especially on the assault rifle and the model's design is not great imho either.

Game looks still great and I love the techy yet in some ways unrefined and workplacey feel of the Doom 3 UAC facility. When I am stuck somewhere bored and I cannot access a smart device to watch youtube or post on 4chan, I start daydreaming of my OC Doom marines in Doom 3 UAC facility style in their workdays at computer terminals, security checkpoints, going to gym and recreation afterwards etc.

One of my PCs' backgrounds and currently my ps4's background is a screenshot of an atmospheric location of Doom 3 with something else I find pleasant to look at edited in.

So I dig the vibe of Doom 3 but the gunplay is lame due to the poor feedback which is a shame.

>>10807828
I do like the game though it is obviously flawed. I have wondered before how the game may have turned out had it been a SS clone instead is all. Considering they went for a horror shooter game with tight corridors it probably would have been a lot better off if it was a clone.
>>10807884
>It's actually remembered better today than it was received back in the day I feel.
I'm not so sure. Seems like its still a mixed bag of reception to me. I think some definitely warmed up to liking it more while others never really changed their opinion on disliking it. To me its most primary flaw anyways is that the shooting combat doesn't feel as devastating or impactful as it should.

>>10807905
>shooting combat doesn't feel as devastating
I think only literally the civilian zombies react / flinch when shot. The rest will tank hits until they die and when they DO die they just poof away. Okay it looks cool when they sizzle in that firey effect back to Hell but.. man that game feels so damn static in your interaction with the environment that combat is the thing I look forward to the least.

I found it actually really spooky in a good way when those audio logs and emails sound like people beimg frustrated with normal relatable workplace frustrations coupled with some spookier relorts like machines malfunctioning or inexplicably turning off even when disconnected from power etc. I LOVE THAT. I love that vibe, I love the idea of working at UAC and things being at the same time... everyday work but with some unsettling spooky as a condiment.

>>10807828
I also remember it quite fondly. It helped that I was a bigger puss back then so it often spooked me, but I was also a bigger idiot and even I could figure out how to mod it.
>>10807884
>It's really aggravating to shoot an enemy only for them to not have any sort of pain flinch and they just continue shooting until either you or they die.
The enemies flinch. They're just not easily staggered. Nearly embarrassing death.

>>10807936
The civilian zombies are the only ones I think. And that clip looks fucking great.

>>10807947
>The civilian zombies are the only ones I think.
Nope, and goddammit

>>10807965
What is the name of the mod?

>>10806048
nta but from what I played, like 6 levels or so, all the maps are pretty unremarkable and you'd think they'd yuck it up with all sorts of enemy reskins, sounds, or a Josh Doom head but it's just unremarkable maps with "trannies m i rite" names and random midis. Just comes off as dated; teenager tier skill and effort. Was hoping for something like moonman tier but with lolcows at least.

>>10807979
Immersive Armaments and some inoffensive upscales.
>>10807998
>stained glass in Q2
I must brightmap it...

>>10807730
Yeah I'm surprised by how good it is. Definitely going to be a favorite by the time I'm done. Further testament to the goodness of vanilla Quake.

>>10807809
As much as I like immersive sims, I don't think a full ImmSim Doom game would have been a good idea either.
IMO, Doom 3's main problem is that the first half of the game is lacking in variety, and the shotgun is kinda ass. But it's a fine game otherwise.

>>10807986
It's pretty small time and many of them are noobs, they'll get better at it if they keep making maps and analyze what they make, what they like, and what they want to make.

>>10806562
That'd be kinda cool, but a lot of those games aren't nearly as easy to mod or map for.

>>10807884
did you edit in a naked girl

Playing some Half-Life
IP: 164.152.111.147:10666
Pass: penis
Name: Booty Lickers Incorporated
Maps: https://mega.nz/fm/pXNU0D4K
Updated with more maps

>>10808086
Ah shit wrong Mega link
https://mega.nz/folder/dX1lkQ4K#OygTvzervfpq93Hezh1OsQ

>>10808043
I'll certainly try it if/when they do. Just don't think this was exactly "feature" worthy.

>>10807809
If it was done properly, yeah, but I don't think they had the chops or desire to do this. I figure why not, because it was already pretty far from 'Doom' as it was.

>>10807817
NotBlood - set 'kept on death' for items under game settings for co-op mode.

>>10807809
the way it handles stuff like computer screens is super cool and i wish more games did it, would be great in an imsim

>>10808086
6/32 right now

>>10808167
Thanks, I'll give it a whirl.

>>10808086
Get in lads we got hldj going

>>10808263
too busy kartan

>>10808307
and/or poopin

Dropping this little mapset I started last year for NaNoWadMo 2023

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yrbour8kr7il4qdqtfc0i/Sunveil.rar?rlkey=cwf8x694w7gayaotbge110qm6&dl=0

>>10808086
gg boyos. They're still going for anyone reading this.

>>10808364
do you have a few screenshots of the levels to share?

>>10807998
Why is the Red cross gone from your version of Quake 2?

>>10808401
Watch the picture closely.

>>10808395

here's a big o compilation

>>10808086
And closed for tonight. As with all things, it ends with Crossfire. GGz to those that were able to roll in, was fun.
>>10808307
Damn, forgot about Kartan. Still was tied to doing some HL regardless, but a shame it lined up like that.

>>10808421
awesome sauce

>>10808364
>a2rob set
neat, gonna play this when I'm not fucking exhausted

https://youtu.be/PFyV31v0uQo

>>10808581

I really wanna play Hordemex. But no one fucking plays Odamex.

:_:

>>10808612
Start a server, see what's up.

Duki Nuki is no longer Randy's slave; what will come of Duke from this deal?
>Captcha: NVXXX

>>10808646
>what will come of Duke from this deal?
Either neutered generic modern shooter reboot, or neutered le ebic retro throwback boomah shootah somewhere between Phantom Furry and Doosk.
Regardless, you'll get a nu-Duke that is all steel, no balls, and probably gay - which is worse than the series just being dead under Gearbox.

Post SOVL

>>10808785
????, E1M4, E2M6, ????, E3M3
E3M8, MAP08, E3M5, ????, ????
E3M6, ????, MAP05 (NERVE.WAD), ????, E2M4

>>10808646
>Take-Two Interactive
Say goodbye to all the mods for these games

>>10808504
What the fuck that's pretty damn cool

Didya guys know a revenant fireball can lock in dead orbit around doomguy?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6ZUkRKf7tpU

>>10808836
Planet Doomguy

>>10808836
>>10808843
doomguy needs to lose weight

>>10808504
Holy mother of Niggurath that's sick.

>>10807840
ggs btw

>>10809025
ggs
niggas need to get in on the mumble already for some pro combi skeelz

>>10809049
i dont want to hear you guys to be desu but thats just me. it would ruin me if i found out kegan talked like a fag

>>10809052
boy do I have some hard news for you

>>10809053

>>10808646
>what will come of Duke from this deal?
A lot of DMCAs of mod developers if Take 2 has anything to do with it.

>>10808646
>Duki Nuki is no longer Randy's slave;
That's a lie. Gearbox still owns the IP.
>what will come of Duke from this deal?
Literally nothing. You could argue that Take-Two might come after that Forever 2001 project and such, but I think they only care about GTA to go that far. Maybe a re-release of current DNF at best since both rights are at one roof.

>>10809176
>Instant instead of gradual
C'mon mapper.

>>10809176
Zerker got sauced. What map are you playing and gimme more webms.

>>10809187
http://http.tastyspleen.net/~p1/quake2/weapons/maps/5fiffy3.bsp

I asked the same thing over an year ago - know any link to a complete textureset rip from Requiem: Avenging Angel that's saved in TGA format?

>>10809204
https://www.moddb.com/mods/requiem-avenging-angel/news/requiem-aa-the-texture-pack
?

>>10808646
I'm hoping finally a good remaster with all expansions and console contents (including Duke Advance). Also throw new 6th episode and multiplayer with it and I'm happy.

>>10808804
>>10808804
E1M3 for sure, E3M5?
E2M6?, E1M5,
E2M6 again?, No clue

does Duke 3D just have worse level design than Blood, or what?
only in some of the later episodes of Blood did I get lost, but the very first level in Duke has me lost already. I wanna give it a shot since it's Build-ludo but it's fucking me off

>>10809567
Duke has worse level design in my opinion out of it, Blood, and SW, but not because its easy to get lost.

>>10809567
>getting lost in Hollywood Holocaust
I get it but it isn't that hard at all
Duke has a lot of these kind of maps that reward curious players
>>10809637
Also, of course Duke has the worst level design of those games simply because it's the first comercial game using Build

>>10808052
Seeing as we have at least one anon for each game it's not far fetched:
>A lot of doom mappers
>Some for quake, including amazing vranon(who is also doing Malice maps I believe) and coffee achiever, also the big ass dam level guy
>Someone for Quake 2?... Maybe, I think someone was posting screens here
>Those who made 500 ml for blood
>One anon(I think, maybe someone else stood up) who manages shadow warrior project
>There was an attempt to make a heretic mapset
>The guy who made the serious sam editing tutorial, maybe someone even joined him, I can't remember
>Someone wanted to make a map for Deus Ex
>Who knows how many more for various other games
Maybe that's the solution - if those small projects for games harder to mod can't take off, they could consolidate and publish something as a pack - maybe that would actually motivate to expand each entry into a full thing

Still working my way through Skulltiverse. Man, its good but fuck if it doesn't feel downright sadistic at times. I haven't felt so tensed up playing Doom in a long time - does anyone else start to feel kinda on edge/strung out/mildly paranoid IRL after playing a wad for a while or am I just a pussy?

>>10809919
I have something like that in other games - when I play permadeath games where you accumulate equipment I get really tense and agitated in late game when it's easy to die and lose all that - when I end the game or start a new one I'm still playing in a twitchy and nervous way

>>10809731
>the first comercial game using Build
Bro...

>>10809951
Technically wrong too, this was the first on a stolen version of the engine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYXIFg5L4uk

Take-Two is buying gearbox. If you have any duke related stuff including games and engines you want to download it, do it now before they C&D everything in June

yo my dudes
why isn't OG unreal as popular as doom these days? unreal modding used to be a big thing but now its kinda dropped off the map and I don't really see anything going on these days

Yesterday I started playing quake 3 arena, it's my first time and I have a question. Is it considered "cheating" if I kill someone who is already in a duel, or that has just killed another player? I found myself in that situation many times and sometimes they engaged right away but other times I killed them easily. So is this normal or it would be better if I join a server with more people?

>>10810029 (me)
Btw, today I tried other servers but it didn't let me connect to them, I'm playing the GOG version. I tried installing ioquake 3 but it didn't work, also tried CPMA and still couldn't connect to most servers. Is the game dead or am I doing it wrong?

>>10809980
What does this mean for the Duke Nukem Forever remake project?

>>10810062
It means they're better off going underground till it's done but with how they're hooked on media attention it's not a good sign for it ever being finished before they get a cease and desist.

>>10810005
A) Tools are old and can be really annoying to use
B) It's a slog searching for tutorials. You always have to fight how search engines think you want UE4/5 info, and then after that, you usually end up with only videos and 20+ year old forum posts
C) Lotta people just don't like Unreal. Either you really like it or you call it a tech demo, and it's about a 40:60 split on that.

>>10810085
ah fair enough, makes sense. hope things pick up in the future with some new tools and stuff. love unreal me

what's the consensus on TNT maps? I'm actually quite enjoying them so far (half way through) but I'm using final doomer and it's a breeze to go through even the 200+ enemy maps. special thanks to the anon who recommended final doomer to me btw, it feels perfect

>>10810096
They're ok really, some are pretty great, System Control is a way better Entryway than Entryway.

>>10809176
LEARN TO SWIM, LEARN TO SWIM, LEARN TO SWIM

Quake 2 64 is so good bros... I quite like the small simplified maps and the linear campaign with simple objectives. The maps look and play like Quake 1 maps with Quake 2 textures and enemies. There are no long slogs of war of attrition or backtracking just rooms with enemies to pew pew as it should be. There is no going back to the expansion packs now.

>>10810160
I grew up with Q2 64, I was disappointed later in life to learn the Q2 grenades don't make the same noise as the N64 version
It's a very good bouncing noise

DNF 2001 is theoretically the best FPS game ever.

>>10809052
>>10809053
>>10809054
Rude.

>>10809212
Thanks, I wish there was a way to run this game on a modern PC

>>10810160
Well I'm glad to hear that, eager to try that in the remaster after doing Ground Zero and The Reckoning.

>>10810062
>Duke Nukem Forever remake project
The what? I knew there was at least one group trying to make something of 2001 build leaked by nu-Apogee, but nothing about reboot/remake (like Black Mesa, I assume). When that became a thing?
>>10810160
>Quake 2 64 is so good bros...
It really is, anon!

https://youtu.be/2KL89T9T9UA?t=304
Fuck, this explains a lot

>>10805196
I just played that map yesterday, so beautiful.

>>10810287
ooh new decino

Are there any good examples of trees in Quake? Preferably with leaves, thanks.

Is Day of the Toys hard or am i just bad? Just cleared Strange Aeons on UV and it was smooth sailing (used nothing but the crossbow for like 70% of it) but now i've barely started the wad and i'm getting filtered hard by the lunging dentures

speaking of decino, what are the chances he'll play our wad?

>>10810096
A mixed bag from the really early days of the community, talent ranging from quite good to not very good at all.

There's no one across the board consensus on TNT Evilution by itself, I like a lot of it, and so do many, but there's a lot who do not like TNT at all, and there's sincerely a lot to dislike.
In my opinion, about 50% to 60% range between "It's decent for its time." to "This is REALLY good!" but then the rest is either "This is pretty dull." to "This is inexcusably fucking bad." I am cutting TNT some undeserved bit of slack because of nostalgia, there's things in it I would not tolerate from modern works, but that's old games you grew up with.
Some say it stops holding up about half way and then the third act falls apart, some say only the first third has anything good to offer.

What a lot of people really agree on though is that whether or not they like TNT, it manages to capture a bit of a style, in large parts thanks to its cool new music which really sets a lot of good tone. People have taken inspiration from its visuals and used it for stronger works and 'sequels,' like TNT Revilution, TNT Devilution, and THT Threnody, to name just some. Very good stuff worth checking out if you liked TNT.
Another aspect of TNT which is celebrated is that The Plutonia Experiment exists because of it, brothers Dario & Milo had creative differences with the rest of the team and were dissatisfied with the direction of TNT, feeling creatively stifled, so they took a sample set of 8 maps, a few rejected from TNT, others which they had noodled away on on the side, and pitched it to iD Software. iD thought it was cool as fuck and asked if they could turn it into a complete 32 level set before the Final Doom deadline, so that it could be sold as a double bundle with TNT, 32+32, and the Casalis agreed. Working their ass off for a few months, they create what's commonly regarded as Final Doom's strongest and most influential half.

>>10803395
What are Roland and Relic?

>>10810475
Something I've cooked up and got planned after talking with the boys during a few Sunday Night Shitshows. TL;DR I wanna make something lower key and simpler compared to the bullshit I do. Roland's just gonna be a pretty straight forward weapon mod but altfire'll make you throw a few punches before swinging a sword that has lifesteal, and your pistol will be an explosive energy magnum that recharges when holstered.

Relic's gonna be a continuation of that idea with the same character and a few other things, but that one will have essentially a devil trigger gauge that'll effectively tome of power your weapons.

>>10810481
Oh and it'll be a chance to try out voicing the protag myself. This feels a little awkward bringing up after that conversation earlier in the thread though.
Still gonna do it, I think it'll be fun.

Are there any maps that actually make you fight these guys? I swear these props only exist to tease the player.

>>10810481
"Kegan doing a simpler mod" feels like breaking some law of reality.
Jokes aside, that sounds interesting. I'm always down for "Simple done well" gameplay mods. Also in hindsight I'm sorta surprised I don't see more "Devil Trigger" mechanics in Doom mods.

>>10810502
>"Kegan doing a simpler mod" feels like breaking some law of reality.
No the really fucked up part is both mods aren't going to have any callbacks, references, or sounds from NES games.

>>10810505
Bros... it's all over...

>>10810505
Alright the jig is up, what have you done with the real Kegan!?

>>10810510
there's only one way to check...
Get the stadiometer.

>>10806085
For me it's Nugget Doom

>>10807434
>>useless meme port
Useless meme, How so, Faglord fuckwit?
>>perpetually outdated
How would you know
>>utterly stagnant port
WRONG, its still popular among not only /vr/ and Doomer boards folks, but also some Doomworlders even now, as well as Zandy forum users etc. Fundamentally broken code, hmm not so much. Skulltag is dead, not Zandy. then there's Crispy and Eternity Engine.

>>10810698
Zandronum isn't even Decorate complete, and not compatible with MBF21 or UMAPINFO.

>>10809935
If you like the intensity of permadeath I bet you’d like Cthon - not retro but for full disclosure, I made it.

>>10810540
For me it's Nugger

>>10810753
You don't understand anon, these ports that are fixated on their specific niches are going to overthrow the big bad evil sourceport in this great war of sourceports that really totally mattters and means everything, just you wait and see! RORDoom will rise up!

Does anybody know a way to play the Episode 5 levels of Duke Nukem 20th Anniversary without having to buy the stupid shitty port.

>>10810540
FDWL dev here. I just play Nugget now.

>>10810823
Pirate the 20th Anniversary version and play it on Raze.

>>10810840
And to think that Nugget was at some point branded as Woof's FDWL...

What are some wads with very short maps (like one fight)?

>>10810443
Hexen 2 is the first Quake mod to feature leafy trees, as seen here.

>>10810773
Nice, maybe I'll try it. Congratulations on getting it out on steam, the only other anon success like that I heard of is Rekkr

>>10810443
There's a whole repository of assets of of trees and shrubbery in gsh_jungle and Keep/Mjolnir.

now that the dust has settled, opengl or software?

>>10811071
OpenGL for looking around, but software has better lighting and color usage.

>>10811071
with palette tonemapping there's no reason to not use hardware rendering

>>10811075
who on earth uses freelook?

>>10811078
Me. I despise autoaim, I don't trust it, never have. Never will.

It's a joy to me to hear the music people put into their maps, mappacks, etc. I wasn't revisiting A Roman Wilderness Of Pain
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/arwop.html
but I was thinking about it just now, and it has a really wicked remix of Doom's Sign of Evil for its final map, but also a really wicked medieval or gothic style jam for its second map. You can hear it here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX2VQVRntQo
Does anyone know what this song is? Arwop's credits.txt doesn't list any of the music used. I really hope the Mjolnir team is remaking arwop as part of those 50 other maps mentioned.

>>10811078
Don't be silly now.

>>10811124
it just isn't doom

>>10811032
Thanks anon! And yeah, I remember the effort it took to get it out the door very well - I hope to achieve that again someday.

>>10811082
I know about sign of evil but thought Tronyn added some bits of The Doors music for the rest, seeing as how map names are references to This is The End

This will piss off people, but I liked RoTT 2013.

>>10811197
The only one I recognize is "end" which is clearly The End but Quake'd up. But psychopomp is unrecognizable to me as any Doors song. Anyone else want to chime in?

>>10808836
Had this not happened to me a few times I simply wouldn't believe it. Makes you wonder what else is the Pentagon gatekeeping.

>>10807840
Just a head's up, we've begun the process for switching clients and the process hasn't exactly been clean so expect some test sessions to pop up while we sort things out. The server now runs 1.6 with the Neptune 2.0b client, you can find them both here.
https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/download/v1.6/srb2kart-v16-Installer.exe
https://github.com/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases
More to come

I'm so glad that I got a mesh chair. Now the farts don't get trapped in the cushion.

NotBlood or Fresh Supply? never played the game before so perfect accuracy isn't really a concern

please seed the torrent in the OP.

>>10811389
Doom Quickstart? I'll seed for about 20 minutes. Sleeping soon.

>>10811394
yes. thanks anon.

>>10811396

any wads with Roman, Greek or Egyptean themes? Or anything that resembles antiquity?

>>10811396
Me time's up anon. Goodnight.

>>10811425
goodnight anon, thanks a bunch!

>>10803348
Doomer7, a Killer7-themed mod is now in beta.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfaYvx6PDjy8aGdqSCls5qXj1sCmi2e8XsMmblrJ81POJgsOw/viewform

>>10810902
>>10810826
I cannot explain why is that, but in my mind both this map and Strogg Particle Laser are just 2 parts of the same level unit.

>>10811434
>Killer 7 themed mod
I must try this..
In the name of Harman...

>>10811082
>>10811234
Also, the music in arwop is played by some ambient entity, so it's not overriding quake music, and it doesn't react to music volume setting. Weird because other mods by him like Something wicked and Nyarlathotep have actual music replacements.
Recently replayed arwop on hard and shotgun start and I don't think it's designed for that, on some maps I couldn't get all weapons, even with all secrets. I wish more quake maps would use the Tome of Power - I don't think vanilla quake, the expansion packs or quoth/ad ever conceived a powerup as satisfying and creative as that one.
Damn I love Tronyn maps

>>10810902
I love that.
>>10811368
Some of the inaccuracies are slightly nerfed weapons, so I’d stick with NotBlood.

>>10811434
>google docs upload
bro what the fuck is this lmao

>>10811512
From what I seen, the dev was originally wanting to directly DM links to people as they reply to the announcement on Twitter. Then that plan went to shit, so a google drive link became the backup plan.

>>10808504
Are there any other cool demos for Quak like this? Something that can be just loaded and played in any(some) Quake engine. In-game machinima is the soul in its purest form, modern games have nothing on this.

>>10810823
Your only option is Raze. You will still have to buy/pirate the episode itself, it's not available for free.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=71989

t. tried to play it in eduke recently, shit is totally fucked

>>10811521
>the dev was originally wanting to directly DM links to people as they reply to the announcement on Twitter
awful

>>10811521
>>10811579
It's at least better than Project Brutality that were trying to stick anybody who tests their beta with a fucking NDA.

what's up with the lack of Western settings in FPS?
I'm thinking maybe the open environments make it hard to design levels, and the architecture is too small and simple to be intricate the same way a modern city or sci-fi level can be
or maybe people just have bad taste

replaying the OG doom. What the fuck was in their minds when they released factory and dowtown? they're horrible. Also a horrible map is M28.

>>10811706
we got outlaws, but in general it's a difficult setting to make a good FPS game out of for lack of weapon variety

>>10811717
There's not a lot to be going on while staying completely accurate to the time period, especially not if you want to make them engaging and fun.

Term did really fucking well with the weapons in High Noon Drifter.

>>10808504
Same guy made this adorable intro forever ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89xZGtZxJgg
now in "HD" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q9aCNbQNNw
>>10811717
There's Darkwatch too but I've never played it.

>>10811706
>I'm thinking maybe the open environments make it hard to design levels
You just need some creativity and artistic license to make it work like other FPSes - no one said the whole game has to take place in a town with small buildings. You could make up level themes and then make 1-2 levels for each one - a classic wild west town with a saloon/prison/bank to start the game, a trip to the mountains similar to the canyon level in douk3d(it is an open environment, but not that bad), a gold mine which would allow for a lot of closed caves and tunnels, a long ass train like in Blood, anything else you'd come up with, and then at the end of the game you'd come back to the town.
>>10811717
>lack of weapon variety
Same thing, you need to not take the setting too seriously and then you can make a lot more shit up:
>A knife, lasso maybe?
>classic revolver, you can akimbo it later
>a bow and arrow looted from the indians
>rifle for shotgun replacement, some historically inaccurate portable gatling gun as a chaingun replacement
>classic cannon? as a rocket launcher
>fire water for molotov or dynamite from blood as a tossable explosive
>optionally some goofy ass high scifi plasma weapon(put it in some sort of John Carter/Cowboys & aliens secret encounter)
>there's room for a lot more things, just use your imagination
Basically if you want to make it fun you have to forgo historical accuracy - you can add some arcanum style more advanced machinery even - just don't overdo it with steampunk because a lot of that genre is utter sovlless faggotry in style of "machine from modern times, but it's brass/wooden and has a cog randomly placed somewhere"

>>10808504
This one is a doozy, pretty old too(this yt vid is a reupload)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq4Ks4Z_NGY

>>10811765
Was able to run this one Ironwail. But I assume there's no way to play old TF and its demos >>10811741 in modern source ports?

>>10811761
Getting the revolver good is a big part of that, like the one in this is genuinely one of the best pistol replacements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tIJyHrLsE0

>>10811512
For the feedback since it's still a beta, the questions are at the bottom of the page.

>>10808504
I like that Ogre model with a badolier of skulls

>>10807840
>>10811306
Hey guys, the current host is gonna be out of commission for some time, so your old friend Anonymous will be taking over hosting things for the time being.
If you'd like to help test the new client, the setup process is largely the same, but you need to use version 1.6 of the game and download the Neptune 2.0b client instead. Currently, we're doing a general test to see what's broken as well as this fancy new "expert" speed.

This isn't a good idea, is it?

>>10803345
Cute imp

>>10811706
Well they got the Call of Juarez stuff, Outlaws, Darkwatch, more recently Blood West, Hangman's Rope and some lesser known games like Dead Man's hand etc. I feel like third person shooter is a more popular kinda genre because horse riding in first person is clunky af and if you're doing an old west game and don't include horses then wtf you doing mayn.

More recently the anti-fun political brigade has also made it a minefield for utilizing anything involving native americans in such games unless the portrayal is ''right'' aka you have to be sweet baby inc approved which you know you don't HAVE to do but if you can't use native american mythos and stuff then that's another big aspect you can't do anything with which is a big loss.

But yeah the Ol' West has a fuckton of possibilities and setpieces :
>ye olde main street with dusty road and saloon, maybe burlesque theater
>train level where you battle on board a train
>farms / ranches
>wooden military forts with cannon
>stagecoach gunner level
>steamboat level
>mine level with minecart rides
>dusty mexican military forts
>pueblos
>sniper section where you have to save someone at the gallows from being hanged

There are also a lot of different archetypes and motiovations to play with like gold rush, maybe cattle barons muscling small holders, the army either mexican us or both being involved, former civil war soldiers doing stuff etc.

>>10812281
no get out of my house

>>10811706
I have no idea if Blood counts as one or not. There's some scattered western tropes here and there, and the protagonist is an undead cowboy, but there's a lot more going on in it as well.

>>10812260
I’m in.

>>10811761
>rifle for shotgun replacement
Model 1887 shotgun called.

>classic cannon
Dynamite bow ma dude

Cannon if you need a turret section.

>>10811706
The popularity of Westerns fell off a cliff before video games became a significant thing.

There have been a couple of Spooky West games recently (Project Warlock 2 Episode 2, Blood West), and having one western map is pretty common for any FPS involving time travel (Timepslitters 2, Blood 2's expansion, etc.).

>>10812370
For a setting ''not in fashion'' every gen seems to get at least a few notable games.

>>10812370
Fallout New Vegas and Red Dead Redemption (2) were pretty fucking big.

>>10812398
They're not really wrong though, even at it's lowest point before it became a bandwagon again, cyberpunk still got used way more as a thing than Western stuff ever did.

>>10812370
Gun

>>10812435
>New Vegas
I never played Honest Hearts, so I've always seen New Vegas as just Fallout in the Mojave.
>Red Dead
Never played it, so I didn't know that had a first-person option.
I did forget about the Call of Juarez series, though.

>>10812514
>I never played Honest Hearts, so I've always seen New Vegas as just Fallout in the Mojave.
It pretty much is, some people just focus hard on it as a Western because Big Iron was bugged and played twice as much.

>>10812514
>>10812525
FNV is a sci-fi game, but it leans a LOT into Wild West stuff and cowboy aesthetics, and it's more than just a Marty Robbins song. Like half of all the conventional guns in that game are cowboy style ones, single action revolvers, lever action rifles and shotguns, and there's dozens of cowboy hats.

Anyone here played Mortyr or Codename : Eagle?

guys help me remember the wad. it supposed to be "alternative' doom 2, like re imagined version, it begins with a hall with barrels ans shotgunners, right on the first level you get teleported to "hell" few times, it acts like a jump scare

>>10812551
found it somehow, doom 2 redux, give it a try bros

>>10803938
too soon

>>10808785
best atmosphere of the whole series.

>>10811034
Those are some good trees thank you, but I don't think I've got any transparent leaf textures in these wads.

>>10810465
I dunno, I honestly don't see much about /vr/ mods in other places. Even Ad Mortem didn't seem to get much of an uptick for Phase 3 despite being allegedly finished and getting a mention in the Cacowards, although in all fairness, Phase 2 did get some attention.

>>10812683
Most of them are held back by some gimmick like speedmapping, space, or sector art and the ones where the mappers have full freedom have the same flaws most community projects do where they have shitty maps that drag the overall experience down, even Ad Mortem. In the world of Doom WADs /vr/ community projects are pretty mid, people are just gonna gravitate towards the top shelf stuff.

>>10806789
Nightdive made a level editor for the re-release of Powerslave

>>10806048
>>10808043
(I'm the original guy)
Basically what he said, the levels were lazy-feeling and did not play very well, and i remember the guy that made the more vanilla levels with the wojak saying on /v/ how shit DOOM world was and how they sucked cause he released the only remotely good one on /v/.
AD mortem and anything ive played from /vr/ beats the shit out of this.