/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10419003
didn't know the dungeon was in there. that's dope

all the optional codec calls. also wolf pee

Zelda is imbued with this stuff

>photo of OoT's "master fisherman" Hena claims to be descended from
>as if this wasn't sovl enough, she admits she can't prove it, but she will begin to scratch her back right after talking about him, just like he did in OoT
>in the unlikely case you talk to her before the animation ends, she even has something to say

>>10419031
You can unfreeze your rations with hand dryers

Guys, move on from Zelda. Really, do it, grow up, play other games. It's really ok to play and discuss other games

>>10419160
I played every game in existence. Zelda is like slipping back into the comfort of a warm home

Secrets for the sake of being secret aren't very interesting. You can just hide them behind 100 layers of moon logic

>>10419048
>Zelda is imbued with this stuff
Always thought it's cool Hylian text translates to real languages
https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Hylian_Language_Translations

>>10419314
Also made this scene so memorable. Sometimes not knowing shit is better

>>10419123
Zelda and MGS are in their own tier when it comes to Jap games desu
>>10419231
>that FFIX Tantalus quest

>>10419078
SOVL

:(

>>10419692
wow

Reference to the Toad houses from SMB3

>>10419160
I didn't play any Zelda games until well into adulthood but they're just really great games that capture the imagination.

It doesn't help that they don't have much competition. Like other older games like Shining Force, they're drawing from a western fantasy tradition that is no longer loved or respected like it used to be. The only modern dev delivering anything close to that is Fromsoft.

>>10419231
Stuff like OP is cool, if you pay attention it makes total sense and it's not bullshit
Agree with your point, shit in modern games like fez monolith for example is just retarded. Secrets should make sense and add to a game's worldbuilding.

>>10419003
Fire Temple is my favorite dungeon, it's awesome to discover this!

>dies

All the nods at previous games in SH3. Konami Code also has a few fun uses, like turning ZotE into Gradius or Douglas not giving a fuck anymore.

The secret garden's gotta be one of the best optional findings and I haven't even been there yet because I refuse to look up guides

>>10420550
I hate how many "secrets" seem to be just bunny hop 5 times then aim your sniper scope and make 3 counterclockwise circles around the tall building and then you hear a ominous laugh.

Then some faggot developer will tease how they're a secret no one found yet

>>10419692
More 'canon trivia only the developer knows' kinda shit like this?

>>10419160
>stop liking what i don’t like grrrr!!
Anon sounds like you need to pull up your big boy pants and grow up a little

>>10419003
Same energy

>>10421085

>>10421856

time blocks don't actually vanish, they are sent 7 years in the past or future. hard to know this without hacks. it was likely intended as puzzles but as it is it's just a cool detail

DMC is babby shit so Itagaki turned Dante into a damsel of distress.

>>10421906
in*

>>10421075
SotN chairs are the perfect hidden detail, easy to miss for the
unobservant player but a nice goodie for everyone else

>>10419160
lol you're so mad

>>10419003
>>10421332
This as well

Copy-pasting just a few OoT things that felt new to me on my last playthrough
>devil skull outside of Ganon's Castle (deceased underling?)
>inaccessible(?) underwater cave in Zora's Domain
>3x ocarina notes if keeping Z or R pressed, allowing for complex melodies and maybe secrets
>field theme is adaptive and broken up into a set of 8-bar clips; relaxed if you're chilling and noisy if there's a lot of action
>Z-targeting sounds depend on location/context
>sound design is so awesome that you can even hear Talon's snores getting incrementally louder from a mile away
>can swim faster tapping B
>potion witch always turning her ear to you because she's blind
>all the Skulltulas in the world might be cursed humans
>can milk cows
>Poes remark that Link looks like Zelda and insinuate a connection with the royal family (Link and Zelda being siblings à la Star Wars would make a lot of sense)
>only need the Iron Boots like seven times in the Water Temple: For the boots to evoke so much scorn, it really shows how many people got filtered by the Water Temple
>Navi also isn't annoying at all if just trying to finish the game: Really shows how much people either loved wasting time in Hyrule or how many got filtered in general
>many characters die
>most if not all overworld mobs have a big alpha you can lure out
>lore-wise, Stalchildren probably still exist in the future but only hunt children (maybe how they're made)
>they also won't appear if young Link is walking on the road (or wearing the bunny mask)
>easily missable dialogue in which Salia remarks that your ocarina sounds different (Link likely lost hers in the current)
>all first three dungeons involve entering a huge creature's mouth
>Volvagia has a special boss theme and is the only spirit/guardian that's evil
>established resources like Deku Tree bark or Dodongo scales and stomach linings
>stealing the angler's hat
>the scratches on the Lake Hylia tree have a simple purpose

>>10421959
>>devil skull outside of Ganon's Castle (deceased underling?)
it got killed by a soldier

>>10419314
>Always thought it's cool Hylian text translates to real languages

>>10419031
You can take medicine to stop you from sneezing. I always thought this was cool. Also pretty much everything in mgs2/3 have extreme detail. Melting ice cubes, shooting lightbulbs, catching tsuchinoko, the end dying of old age, Raiden getting peed on, "I'm Jennifer", mail room box transportation, healing radio, shooting the ends parrot and eating it alive, etc... such great games.

>>10422103
I wasted too much time trying to connect TP and OoT geography/cartography

why is rare like this?

>>10422239

>>10422239
westerners are very infantile, despite their facade as being "mature"

>>10422241
I don't think there's a single culture in the world that doesn't laugh at dick humor, I challenge you to find one

>>10422241

>>10422269
Now that's just soul, anon

>>10422270

this is why x4 is the best

based or cringe?

get clowned, ms

>>10419160
Zelda has always been the fake nerd gamer cred franchise

>*downloads japanese perfect dark rom*

>>10422379

>>10422387
Lmao there's no way that's real, I'll have to try it myself

>>10422383
legitimately looks like an asian man. maybe they used the same face scan that Ridge Racer used for the uhh... Ridge Racer "girl"

>>10422387
>>10422402
not only is it real, but if you touch the very tips of the nipples, they damage you

>>10422428
>if you touch the very tips of the nipples, they damage you
That's hilarious if real. wtf Shiggy

>>10422383
Would be an improvement if not for the weird dark forheead texture/vertex

>>10422562
>if real
do you think somebody made a fake webm to mess with you? this is ancient knowledge dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KmAvCiG2t4

>>10422614
also zombies screaming in agony and begging for help if you reverse the sound. ravenholm was messed up

>>10422239
all Banjo Tooie has those kinds of jokes, they love penice

>>10422274
>It actually still has the black tip
Ha! They missed a spot applying the mandela effect. Sloppy work, but we still remember the black-tipped tail!

>tfw not sure if soul or perfidious conditioning

>>10422687

>>10422691
>SOULESS
>SOUL

>>10422330
It always made me sad how much Rare tried to support Banjo as a new Nintendo IP with little direct references to other games and the expanded Mario universe and Nintendo was more the then happy to go with that, right up until Rare was sold and Nintendo just threw all their IPs out with them, not even trying to buy out the ones from the Rare/Nintendo collab era. Im sure they would have done the same for DK Country if it wasn't based on OG Kong.

In Morrowind, certain items of clothing are only found on certain people. For instance, there are robes only worn by members of the temple. The world building is full of neat, seemingly inconsequential details like that.

>>10422932
The Stamper Bros. to be fair were foolish to try to outjew the Japanese jew Yamauchi. They intentionally sold 49% to Microsoft to have them at a stalemate believing Yamauchi would buy the remaining 2% from the Stampers at an inflated price to keep Rare, given their role on keeping the N64 afloat. They didn't expect the old man would actually sell Nintendo's 49% directly to Microsoft, forever and permanently fucking Rare into shovelware irrelevancy.

In Ultima Underworld ramming into a wall will cause you to bounce off of it.

The faster you hit the wall, the more you'll bounce back from it afterward.

Hitting a wall fast enough, hard enough, will damage you.

The physicsfag in me really appreciates all of this. Not something you would expect an immersive first person fantasy dungeon crawling sim to care about, but they did.

Do you motherfuckers play anything else than zelda? This might be even more of a manchild franchise than bing bing wahoo. Holy fucking cringe.

>>10423936
Why not post some weird interesting shit from a game you like instead?

>>10423936
>This might be even more of a manchild franchise than bing bing wahoo.
aw, 'nother franchise filled with soul unlike whatever you like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bHWYs0fjdY

>>10424535
you can also control the water level in wet-dry world depending on how high you jump into the painting

>>10421870
I think there is one place in the game where you can still see that this is how it works, and it's the song of time block in that little lava room off to the side in Goron City that has the hookshot target on the other side.

>>10421959
>Volvagia has a special boss theme and is the only spirit/guardian that's evil
Pretty sure Bongo Bongo is explicitly stated as being some evil murderer's ghost. How are Twinrova and Phantom Ganon not also evil?

I can see Morpha being some neutral entity but that's about it unless you're also counting Gohma/King Dodongo/Barinade which are also just neutral animals/a parasite or some shit.

>>10422241
>westerners are very infantile, despite their facade as being "mature"

>>10424593
SA probably has the best easter eggs in the series
>random mass grave with six body bags
>can spot this suspicious figure nearby
>however, there's also a female radio host who says incremental things during different broadcasts
>reveals she had six husbands who are deceased
>reveals she broadcasts from a county that's very close
>reveals she drives a truck

>>10421906
this is funny because confirmed in an interview

>>10424653
Also extremely rare remaster W

>>10419160
What game should we play if we want that same magic then

>>10419003
Tales of Symphonia and the first Tales game taking place in the same world, some characters being related, etc.

>>10421060
>The secret garden's gotta be one of the best optional findings and I haven't even been there yet because I refuse to look up guides

It's not intended as it's there for the ending movie. It's just possible to climb there manually to view it.

>>10419048

>>10424996

>>10425001
>a bug can triforce but i can't

>>10425001

>>10421959
>>the scratches on the Lake Hylia tree have a simple purpose
Which is?

>>10424653
there is something spoopy about retro GTA the new shit can't capture

>>10425664
The NPC's and world have a facade of simplicity but sinister themes just under the surface if you choose to explore them.
It's like finding out your grandparents' house is built on indian burial ground

>>10424653
Weren't there some mob hitmen shown disposing of those bodies in The Introduction? Not the game's intro, but the prequel short.

>>10424585
It’s not that the other bosses aren’t evil, it’s that Volvagia is the Death Mountain equivalent to Jabu Jabu and the Deku Tree but fights you instead of helping

>>10424585
What I love is how fucking dark the lore around the Shadow temple and bottom of the well is.

I mean there's a direct Implication that the Bottom of the Well wasn't just a torture chamber but a royal sanctioned one run by some psycho interrogator. Hence why he had an eye who could see the truth, he'd get the truth out of you one way or another.

>>10421332
>no trees anywhere near the OoT deku tree
>whatever that rock outcropping is is surrounded by water instead of forest

>>10424996
>can do damage with an iron boots roll
holy shit

>>10424996
>>10425001
>>10425508
I still have to cringe that Nintendo actually hated that they had to make Twilight Princess because it went against their "We have to reinvent the wheel every Zelda and this is just us ripping off OOT!"

I rushed through TP when it launched from hype overdose and ended up feeling meh about it. These vids are making me want to go back and replay it, it looks like it had a lot of charm to its world i skipped out on.

>>10427042
I also find it weird there's this whole stigma about Wind Waker not being gritty enough and fan backlash, then after TP, they go on to make Pastel Babby Skyward Sword

>Crysis is soulles-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXgCnFNL7nA

>Crysis is soulles-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXgCnFNL7nA

rusl is dead

>>10424593
Not like this was never doen irl

>>10428212
-s, yes I agree.

>>10428212
This game was actually short of a miracle
>huge promises
>released on time
>promises kept
>game runs well, no bugs or DLC drama
It was a better time

>>10429097
>It was a better time

>>10421959
Nice catches!
>inaccessible(?) underwater cave in Zora's Domain
Yes it's a cut door. I don't remember but it may have been a shortcut to lake hylia
>easily missable dialogue in which Salia remarks that your ocarina sounds different (Link likely lost hers in the current)
It's because you have the Ocarina of Time now

>>10422274
The pikachu cutscene ONLY had the tail

>>10428448
>see him dying or gravely injured as a wolf
>come back alter to get the iron boots from the mayor
>you can tell all the villagers the kids are safe in kakariko
>rusl is nowhere to be found, either at home, by/in link's house, at the farm, or ordon spring

speaking of pikachu, pretty sure the fox mask was a pikachu reference. oot came out when pokemon got huge and all the kids in the game want one

>>10430139
I would have loved to have seen this released as a full game.

>>10422286
>The elder scrote: Daggerphallus

>>10430167
yah no shit. If you paly the fucking elvel its literally the same boat

>i'm not a coomer believe me
kinda cringe

>>10430197
Reminds me of this. A Japanese ToS voice actress also voiced Rose for the Japanese Titanic dub.

>>10419160
Why did you enter this thread?
Could you suggest a valid alternative?

iirc in oracle zelda you can use seeds on the chickens

>>10430182
You know this is bullshit because why the fuck would they make her breast size adjustable on a sliding scale for whatever reason lmao

>>10430404
There were a few things like that throughout the game’s life, like after the Pyromania update certain classes had their melee animations swapped with that of their robot counterparts months before MvM was even revealed. You could tell they were different because the classes began jittering around and strafing with the new anims caused their pelvis to bend 90 degrees the same way the robots do

N64 games

>>10431560

>>10431561

Obligatory

furry bros

>>10419314
Bro WHAT

The text on the sword is "Zubora Gabora" aka the names of the fucking blacksmiths in Majora's Mask

>>10419003

>>10425582
I have to know

>>10431659
Well Termina is kind of a wacky phantom parallel universe

>>10431721
And Link never raped Majora in the WW timeline

>>10419003
Silent Hill is amazing at this, SH1 in particular is just amazing with how ridiculously complex or detailed arbitrary things are.
>the sound of the radio reflects how close an enemy is and which direction they're coming
>Harry has three unique falling animations that can only be seen near the start of the game in the only area with ledges
>the puppet nurses and doctors have three variants with a unique face texture and slightly different stats
>Infected Cybil can run out of ammo in her boss fight
Just walking around tbe town and seeing the stores on the street is entertaining, wish later SH titles kept this more open exploration.

>>10431730
imo 1 has easily the most intrinsic artistic value of all the SHs. probably the best horror buildup ever in the intro as well

>>10425508
These games are so fucking ugly.

>>10422379
I'm not sure what is actually happening here?

>>10431787
If you miss all your shots the minigame host will turn his head away from you instead of looking at you

In Mario RPG if you try to save into a used slot that is different from the one you are using it warn you that's not the slot of your previous save and if you are sure you want to overwrite it.

If you choose "No" at least about 10 times and then choose yes Mario will do a (random?) different animation than his usual victory animation. This happens in the remake too.

(Yes yes I know, horribly stretched video with ugly filters, but it was hard to find a video showing this)

>>10431805
There are many secrets in this game.

>>10428448
>>10429305

>After Link clears the Lakebed Temple, he finds Rusl in Telma's Bar alongside the other members of The Resistance, although in an armored disguise. He will only take his helmet off and reveal himself to Link the second time he is spoken to, saying nothing initially. He has been connected with the Resistance and their goal for a long time.

>>10426504
Yeah BongoBongo was the evil interrogator for Hyrule, he used the Eye of Truth to find out spies and traitors against the Kingdom of Hyrule. I always figured that since the worst torture shit was found under his house instead of the shadow temple prison then he must have been doing really evil things beyond his job and when this was found out he was executed by beheading and his hands lopped off. I mean the entire area beneath the well can only be entered by one who has the eye of truth which would be him implying it was something he didn't want anyone else to know about.

That's my head canon on it anyway.

>>10424667
Shang Tsung strikes again!

>>10423936
Fuck off you retarded faggot

>>10424585
>Pretty sure Bongo Bongo is explicitly stated as being some evil murderer's ghost. How are Twinrova and Phantom Ganon not also evil?
I don't think those are the same category as picrel

>>10419003
Daggerfall has tons of holidays and certain dates you can only get deadric artifacts on. I always loved walking outside after a long sleep and being presented with something like
>” The Day of Waiting is a very old holy day among certain settlements in the Dragontail Mountains. Every year at that time, a dragon is supposed to come out of the desert and devour the wicked, so everyone locks himself up inside.”
Yes this is a real holiday in daggerfall.

>>10431907
Makes sense that he was the royal torturer in life, the shadow temple and the bottom of the well both have cells and crucifixion posts. Maybe it started out at the bottom of the well then moved to the Shadow Temple, only for the Royal Family to find out he was taking his work home with him.

Since his spirit comes out of the well must mean they caught him at the scene of the crime and killed him there.

Then they blocked up the entrance except for the small child sized hole.

Course meant the Village was getting their water supply from an underground chamber filled with corpses.

>>10431787
If you don't shoot any of the rupees he feels insulted and pouts

>>10432278
This game is crazy

>>10431730

Olimar's Wife was abusive :(

>>10432386
>snowflakes landing on the ground
it's the little things as well

>>10427042
true, TP is easily the best Zelda game bar none

I read Nintendo like saying "we don't want to make a good game!"

>>10432278
>"yeah big deal everybody knows tha-"
>the sign pieces start floating across the water
Oh shit

>>10432413
>easily
Personally wouldn't go that far. A bit too many lows compared to OoT's insane balance and coherence. Some later dungeons are weak with increasingly flimsy content in between, the dreariness isn't everyone's cup of tea and the finale more or less a cinematic experience. Comfy start and brilliant midgame, though

>>10432478
Doesn't this game have a massive tutorial? Like the longest in Zelda history?

>>10432548
>Doesn't this game have a massive tutorial?
The first few hours are linear and hallway-y, but tutorial isn't really the right word

>>10432590
>some areas have stronger wind than others, taking things like gap flow into account
>clouds, dust, banners, clothes, grass, particles and even the trajectory of your cast all caught by the wind the same way

>>10432603

>>10421016
Legend of the mystical ninja (Goemon 1) for the Snes has a NPC commenting that if you input the Konami code nothing will happen.

>>10432478
>compared to OoT
OoT is so fucking barebones and dull, TP is a fucking speedway of high octane and epic scenarios. Just herd goats once or twice at the beginning and set sail for the high winds of adventure. I'm done debating with niggers who put OoT on a pedestal, learn to recognize TP or don't ball's in your court now.

>>10432278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj4PnLv5Irs
this place had the weirdest comfiness going on with the spooky alien people shown as elegant and friendly

>>10432729
>TP is a fucking speedway of high octane and epic scenarios.
That's what makes it shit. It's constantly shoving thing after thing in your face and never lets up to let you explore for yourself. It's a fake adventure presented to you like so many themepark rides.

>>10432729
NTA, but I feel like Morpheel is probably one of my favorite bosses in the franchise. It's a fine mix of gameplay and cinematography for lack of a better term. Very cool fight altogether.
The dragon in the sky temple also comes to mind. All around, I'd say TP had the best boss fights in the series for sure.

>>10433084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSHB65kg0QQ
Pure kino. Some minibosses are even better. Low difficulty is a stain, but that fucker with the flail still killed me so w/e

First Budokai game is pure love for detail and still the most authentic DBZ game. Feels like playing through the anime, if not better because of that banger soundtrack and no fillers. Gameplay is simple but solid and no QTE shit like in Budokai 3

>>10433275
The GC version still looks insane

>>10433280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM-nvXErdUs&list=PLC61CBD3C0E2463A0

>>10432038
This is what I love about the Zelda series along with others like the Thief games and Morrowind is there is a lot of enviromental story telling for anyone who stops to think about things enough. It shows true passion from the game developers and makes the world these video games set in seem real and immersive, sadly its something that is becoming more and more rare since it ultimately has no major bearing on the ultimate quality of a game for most people.

>>10433420
The problem is that these days game developers like most TV and movie developers think that the audience is too stupid to understand subtext and implications so they either have to spell it out in giant bold font like it's a Disney movie or simply not even bother because why create subtext if no one notices.

Like one of the largest things that disappointed me about Windwalker wasn't the graphic change but the fact that so many of the islands felt like cookiecutter islands for islands sake and so many of the ruins outside of maybe the forest ruins were ruins for Ruins sake.

Another thing is thanks to deadlines companies no longer have the time so spend time adding extras and secrets and clever points to flesh out a game, especially if they're trying to make a game changing game.

OOT was supposed to be a game changer so Nintendo was given plenty of time and support to put anything and everything to show this isn't the same Nintendo you knew, we're willing to be edgier now

>>10424968
The put a special type of fruit up there, it's totally intended.

>>10433286
>meanwhile cutscenes 10 years later
>everything looks like shit and characters are just standing there like toy soldiers
Never understood how DBZ fans ate this up

>>10433084
I fucking hated the dragon fight.
>Link FINALLY gets to fight a real, actual dragon!
>The ENTIRE ARENA IS IN THE AIR!
>just grab him with the item that you got in the dungeon three times and you win. That's literally the only way TO win as well

>>10419003
I'm high right now and I thought you were making the insinuation that the boulder mounds were made to look like tiddies.

>>10421016
It turns Zone of the Enters into Gradius?

>>10432386
Disaster Report has many similar unnecessary animations like that

>>10425582
>>10431704
>he doesn't know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=qzzF4LsqjGs

>>10422379
If you don't fire on the rupees during the mini-game, the NPC says you don't need to if you don't want.

>>10434784
Nobody's watching your game theory video.

>>10424735
there's definitely something special about most of the zelda games, but you don't need "that same" magic. you can have other magic.

>>10430312
so if you're going to talk about sovlfvl details zelda is a good start, but it isn't the only game series out there with these kinds of details. look at the catalogue. see how many threads there are related to zelda. it's too fucking much man. consider the following: i'd love to get around to playing OoT some day but i see it so much the game is starting to seem a little dull and generic, and i know the game isn't that.

>>10419003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2Yp1amX1iA
cynic wave race announcer is the best thing ever

>>10434731
>dem rain drops hanging from objects
>can see all your items attached to your backpack
>>10435032
You are autistic to be botehred by a few threads using pics of a series as big and successful as Zelda

>>10435032
yeah but the problem is you aren't helping either. not only is details one of its strengths but you don't name a single title to help us out.
if I asked "games about going fast" and someone said "duh sonic" you could have said 'well, there's also F-zero and games like that'. but you don't even do that. youre useless to thread.

>people ITT really are sóygaping at some piece of wood floating on the water in zelda
holy kek

>>10435308
Don't be disingenuous.
It's cool because they didn't need to program something so rarely seen, but they did. It's the little details like these that show how much love, thought, and care they put into OoT and part of what makes the game, and others like it, really special. I wouldn't expect you to understand.

>>10435282
>>10435295
zelda is overrepresented on this board.

>>10430246
this has been deboonked

>>10430272
Pepperidge farms remembers.

>>10435308
>people ITT mad that people enjoy discussing anything at all and not just shitposting 24/7 like them

>>10435308
>love for detail thread
>hahaha people post love for detail?
>I just want my completely static JRPGs!

>>10435308
Most modern games dont even do that.

>>10435032
How the fuck is that anybodys problem except yours?

What 2D games have clouds with shadows besides this? It's maximum comfy

>>10435368
sure but. its not this thread's fault. it's your fault for being too dumb to name ONE (1) game with more secrets than zelda so I can talk about it instead

>>10435025
>STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC FEELING ONLY THIS FRANCHISE GIVES YOU
??? You just validated the thread

holy shit lol

>>10435967
i'm saying the overrepresentation of zelda on /vr/ is a community problem. the assertion that it's a personal problem just dismisses my point and frames it as irrelevant. don't play games with me, son.

>>10436050
i mean if i go into a non-zelda thread and a good chunk of the discussion is related to zelda, it kinda is the thread's fault. i would've have said anything otherwise. calm the fuck down.

>>10436092
this doesn't undermine my position on the subject.

anyway, i'm done with you freaks. have a nice day.

>>10420979
You can also kill him at the start of the game if you are fast enough

>>10430190
Clinton wasn't president when sonic first came out

>>10434784
>"It's a reference to something that will happen in a game 20 years from now!"

Yeah, no, bullshit. You are a fucking idiot if you think a random ass claw mark on a tree in a game released in 1998 was supposed to be a reference to something they would not reveal until several games later in 2017. Especially since the claw mark was not even there in the 3DS version. Not every single literal scratch on the wall has some deep lore behind it.

>>10436009
Minish Cap

>>10436143
retard

>>10419003
The one normal soldier in ALttP. Also the dying soldier in OoT if no one mentioned it yet

>>10437382
Interestingly that's the same engine. At least I think

>>10430139
i remember being fucking hyped as shit when they showed screenshots of it in a gaming mag back in the day.
there's some footage of it around somewhere as well.
if i remember correctly you'd use the d pad to move, the stylus and lower screen to aim and fire with the buttons.
probably would've been shit either way with that control scheme.

>>10436143
>i'm saying the overrepresentation of zelda on /vr/ is a community problem
True, I wish janny would delete all the shitpost threads and stop deleting the normal Zelda threads

>>10437495
>shitposts TP
>blatant samefagging in the thread
>>10402295
>literal shitpost picture with a shitpost in the filename
>made by a shitposter who spams those screenshots for weeks now
>10437273
>shitposts OoT worldbuilding with debunked 2014 meme
>10434789
>thread shits on WW
>most likely just made to pit Zelda fans against each other
>10436554
>first reply (OP samefagging) derails the thread calling OoT a 4.5/10
>lazy threads like this are made so fans can't make a proper thread without it getting deleted for "spam"

Meanwhile, there are countless normal or completely harmless Zelda(-adjacent) threads getting deleted for no good reason, some of them filled with actual game discussion and info. Just some more recent ones:

https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/8895631/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10058268/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9092427/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10400123/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10387721/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9434132/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4606004/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/8528157/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10433743/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9719786/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10389431/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9704721/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/8606997/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/8504626/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9096257/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10371436/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10379980/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10388861/

Also keep in mind that almost every Zelda thread gets shitposted to death, so there is an understandable incentive to make another one and try again

The community problem is a janny who clearly hates Zelda games a bit too much

>>10437649
I just wonder what Ganon's up to

>>10436143
>i'm saying the overrepresentation of zelda on /vr/ is a community problem
I wish janny would delete all the shitpost threads and stop deleting the normal Zelda threads

>>10437495
>shitposts TP
>blatant samefagging in the thread
>>10402295
>literal shitpost picture with a shitpost in the filename
>made by a shitposter who spams those screenshots for weeks now
>>10437273
>shitposts OoT worldbuilding with debunked 2014 meme
>>10434789
>thread shits on WW
>most likely just made to pit Zelda fans against each other
>>10436554
>first reply (OP samefagging) derails the thread calling OoT a 4.5/10
>lazy threads like this are made so fans can't make a proper thread without it getting deleted for "spam"

Meanwhile, there are countless normal or completely harmless Zelda(-adjacent) threads getting deleted for no good reason, some of them filled with actual game discussion and info. Just some more recent ones:

https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/8895631/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10058268/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9092427/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10400123/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10387721/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9434132/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4606004/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/8528157/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10433743/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9719786/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10389431/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9704721/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/8606997/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/8504626/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9096257/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10371436/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10379980/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10388861/

Zelda thread gets shitposted to death (from the first post on because the Zelda hater always browses the catalog). It's understandable to make another one and try again

The community problem is a janny who hates Zelda games a bit too much and nothing being done about the shitposting

>>10437657
>I wish janny would delete all the shitpost threads and stop deleting the normal Zelda threads
I actually don't care what happens to this dead faggot board. I just can't help myself exposing snakes

>>10434784
Holy shit

>>10436143
I'm speechless. It's like I'm talking to a wall. You literally didn't name a game after I told you. Do you even look at the posts you reply to??
there is a lot of zelda threads? Yes, but at least they didn't hijack a random thread to make a meta post while posting the pic of some clown. imo you're the one who is more of a problem to the board. idk if the jannies will pay attention to your shitposting or not (they should) but if you don't read my post l don't gotta read your rambling either.

>>10419003
The problem with Zelda threads is not just that there are too many, which there are, it's also the the creators of most of those threads are autistic assholes that lack basic conversation skills.

>>10437657
>thread shits on WW
it's a TP thread, and WW is terrible regardless

>>10438069

>>10438369
>and WW is terrible regardless
Not according to people whose opinion matters, normal people and reviewers

>>10438462
Let's be honest. WindWaker is imperfect but frankly I enjoyed it. Nintendo shines when they make games like this, spirit tracks, etc... I also don't like the new open world Zeldas.

>>10422241
This has to be a joke.

>>10438493
>WindWaker is imperfect
No shit? No game is perfect except for maybe extremely simple ones like pong. Zelda games have a million mechanics

The wind requiem is the same notes as Epona's song in OoT

>>10438686
makes sense desu

Harry Potter on PS1 had an extremely eerie atmosphere. You would spend most the time exploring empty environments of the castle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia1ASdn57N8

The room where you read the book is quiet and empty. When you close the book after completing the game, it puts you back to the main menu. If you collected all of the cards, it plays a creepy laugh on top of it all, see the last seconds of the video

>>10438493
>imperfect
Do you often call games terrible just for being 'imperfect'?

Why is everyone on this board an antisocial autist?

>>10440842
>Saying something is "imperfect" means your antisocial
What?

>>10440864
You said terrible first. Being this tactless, undiplomatic and incapable of drifting into the borderlands of exaggeration is antisocial, yes

>>10440714
i forgot how s*ul this game was

>>10430129
kek

>>10426504
>Hence why he had an eye who could see the truth, he'd get the truth out of you one way or another.
If he had an eye that could see the truth, why would he need to interrogate?

>>10436235
neither was sonic

>>10430349
Yeah, mystery seeds turn them into chicks.
But if you use the seeds on them while you're being attacked by the flying ones after bullying them, they become huge instead.

>>10440927
You are talking to multiple people. Learn how to use chan.

>>10441404
That is a very good point. They should make a "Did you know Gaming" info graphic for that fact. Hopefully, Bundy will have a Sonic episode of Fat Cunt explaining this too.

>>10434784
>Breath of the Wild

>>10431907
>>10432038
I like this but one detail that doesn’t make sense for this theory is that you don’t need the Lens of Truth in order to enter the well; you cause the windmill to drain the well so that you can enter and retrieve the Lens of Truth from within it.
Another theory I’ve heard which works pretty well is that Bongo Bongo is a vengeful spirit similar to the manifestations of powerful emotions (Onin, I think) which cause other spirits like Poes to linger, but that instead of being the ghost of one person it’s an amalgamation of most/all of the tortured victims who died in the well/temple.
Which, if that’s the case, is frankly kind of depressing since it implies that the royal family’s crimes are effectively unpunished and the spirits of those they interrogated continued to suffer for no reason. At least Link finally enables them to lay to rest in that interpretation.

I always thought it was neat that, when Maria asks Alucard 's ever heard of Richter Belmont, it shows Trevor Belmont's NES sprite when Alucard thinks about the name "Belmont" itself.

>>10422653
Wait; the "black tip" thing is just the patch of brown fur at the base of his tail this whole time? That's still part of his design, even now.

>>10431662
this doesn't work with the others?

>>10441692

>>10442460

>>10442464

>>10442483
>pikachu used to be retarded

>>10430190
>no sonic based on orange man

>>10419048
Damn, to think one of Zelda's ancestors was a fish.

>>10443234
Wtf is this, bud

>>10443241
Arx Fatalis

>>10443234
Soul

>>10432278
how the fuck am I still finding out new things about this game.

>>10419692
This is as dumb and as random as someone making up shit on the spot. No foreshadowing of any kind. Makes even less sense since MM exists.

>>10443243
That 25th anniversary edition sure has taken some liberties

>>10443532
>no foreshadowing
>game literally tells you children gest lost in the woods and become skull kids

>>10443804
kek
he's also a psycho looking for danger, he had it coming

>>10419003
WW did most of the Zelda things ITT and more

>>10444757
>feet ik dynamically to the ground
That guy is an idiot, esp. the uncharted bit. OOT had IK and that released earlier.

>>10445392
Not sure if it's the actual feet doing it OoT or just the legs desu. I know it's definitely both in TP

>>10434519
So exactly like every single other boss fight in the entire franchise?

>>10445392
Oot doesn't have IK, it's a predetermined animation. IK is dynamic and the first game with it is ICO.

>>10437410
>Super Famicom game by Nintendo
>GBA game by Capcom
>same engine

>>10438686
Same C buttons, but not the same notes.

>>10445769
>Oot doesn't have IK
Source? Looks like textbook IK
>it's a predetermined animation
Everything is predetermined
>and the first game with it is ICO
Jurassic Park Trespasser predates even OoT

Gothic 2 got some of the comfiest rain

>>10446887
>>Everything is predetermined
IK is not.

>>10445754
"Item in dungeon is the only way to kill the boss" only started with Ocarina of Time.

>>10436143
>a community problem
it's not
>dismisses my point and frames it as irrelevant
it is
>don't play games with me
this is a board about games, faggot

Your pic is very apt, you are a clown.

>>10445769
>Oot doesn't have IK
I would disagree with your wording since code is always executed exactly as written. If you know so much about IK, it's also weird that you believe ICO was the first game to feature it. Can I get source for the claim that OoT doesn't have IK? Looks like IK and it's commonly accredited to OoT by programmers
>>10447753
Can't remember WW and TP but every OoT item outside of the lens is practically a weapon, so that didn't feel out of the ordinary

>>10447824
>You HAVE to use the Slingshot on Gohma
>You HAVE to use the Bombs on Dodongo
>You HAVE to use the Boomerang on Barinade
>You HAVE to use the Arrows on Phantom Ganon
>You HAVE to use the Megaton Hammer on Volvagia
>You HAVE to use the Hookshot on Morpha
>You HAVE to use the Hover Boots and Lens on Bongo Bongo
>You HAVE to use the Mirror Shield on Twinrova
>You HAVE to use the Light Arrows on Ganondorf

Part of the OOT theme is the tune the flute plays in the first Zelda.

>>10447839
>you HAVE to use your new weapon to defeat the enemy
wtf pls no

>>10432548
yes, it pretty much lasts until getting the master sword

>>10422285
that lineage wound up as Gachablade on the Switch so I guess it depends on your taste

>>10438686
>>10439007
>>10446374
Not even the same directions. This whole line of posting was a mess, LOL.

>>10448029
By the time of Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, it got bad enough to where that was genuinely their ONLY use. Previous Zelda games gave you the freedom to improvise and use all the weapons you have at your disposal instead of going "Wow; you got the Giant Monster Horn Shaver in the Ancient Barbershop. I wonder how you're going to defeat Sharp Facial Hair Man - King Hornbeard?"

>>10419003
It's Cloudbreakers for me and playing at the backseat of a car makes its juicy.

>>10447314
Lol you don't even understand what IK even is then. It isn't some specific algorithm, but a general strategy to solve constraint problems, which can absolutely be made deterministic, even if general IK strategies can be chaotic, especially when you're only really dealing with two joint rotations with 1 and 3 degrees of natural freedom + the ankle joint and.

>>10441651
The funny thing is there's a legitimate 32-bit sprite of Trevor in the game for the inverted Colosseum, but Alucard remembers him in 8-bit. It's like how little kids used to ask adults if "it was black and white back then," because they watched old tv and their parents teased them.

>>10422270
I'm still made the director commentary of the game on youtube was never finished.

>>10448465
baka

>>10449643
Nintendo keeps blowing my mind...

>>10421959
>>inaccessible(?) underwater cave in Zora's Domain

also just in general:
https://noclip.website/

Enjoy

>>10433420
Tp does an ass load of indirect story telling. snowpeak ruins was an outpost for hyrules army aat one point before it fell to shit. Tp in general is contantly showing hyrule during its great depression

I'm sure many sidescrolers do this but I love how you can interact with a lot of things in Dragon View

>>10450809
>https://noclip.website/
If this also had music/ambience I'd rather just fire up that website instead of playing through some retro games

>>10419160
Nah fuck you snoy, I'm never giving it up

>>10450809
Maybe it was intended as another shortcut but then they realized it's too deep for young Link and the Domain will stay frozen in the future. Or it's just part of Hyrule's underground water cycle. Or we are supposed to imagine that the real Zora village is hidden under the surface and behind the walls where they have their rooms

>>10425582
>>10431704
Letting you know that the tree is soft enough for your hookshot. Lore-wise, probably just Rauru marking a dungeon

>>10422614
It took me years to finally notice it, but the G-man is definitely Gordon Freeman

>>10430190
top kek

>>10419969
>It doesn't help that they don't have much competition.
They don’t have any. Even games known to be Zelda-like have few puzzles by comparison and are mostly battle focused.

>>10453480
In my personal opinion, Dragon View is a better Zelda 2 and Okami a better Zelda TP. But yeah, otherwise this series is unparalleled at what it does and its own best competition

>>10419314
>>10431659
TP's Death Sword's Japanese name is also Sword of Gobera. Considering Death Sword also moves and shoots projectiles like Phantom Ganon and the sword looks like something Ganondorf would use (down to an upside down Triforce like on Demise's sword), it's most definitely Phantom Ganon

>>10453685
All the Phantom Ganons have a characteristic weapon so you could even theorize from here that they're all part of the sword spirit race like Ghirahim and Fi

>>10419160
Gotta leave the autists to it bro, I left vr last year because of the Zelda faggots. I come back in occasionally to warn regards like you to abandon ship. Seriously, leave /vr/, the board is entirely Zelda incels now.

>>10453712
There are like five Zelda fans on /vr/ and you easily drown them out with your samefagging and spam. Stop crying so much
>Seriously, leave /vr/
Agreeing with that though

>>10421959
Anon, King Dodongo and Volvagia share battle music, and Phantom Ganon, Morpha, Bongo Bongo, and Twinrova are all evil as well. Additionally, while this might be my personal speculation, the Stalchildren are likely not children, but the soldiers who died in the civil war. They might be "children" because they look like smaller, weaker Stalfos. Only Skull Kids are confirmed to be actual children.

>>10453712
You only see nothing but Zelda threads because that's what you come here looking for bro

>>10426456
Historia made that up. In the games themselves, Volvagia is just an infamous, powerful dragon that massacred the Gorons in the past.

>>10453908
>Ethnic genocide
Sounds pretty evil to me bro

>>10426504
>>10426504
>>10432038
>>10433420
>>10433893
>>10450963
The Royal Family had Triforce symbols that responded to their song (Zelda's Lullaby) in the Bottom of the Well complex and the Shadow Temple, so everything there was government approved, not the work of a rogue agent. This means that Bongo Bongo was either an accumulated Poe of sorts or an engineered weapon created by the Sheikah, and it wasn't imprisoned so much as the Sheikah just put it in storage under their likely chieftain's house. Also, considering the area Dampe uses as his grave, along with the Redead grotto, All of the caverns and tunnels in Kakariko Village were likely used by the Sheikah for nefarious purposes, and the Sheikah's infamy may have resulted in them being especially targeted in the wars, resulting in them nearly going extinct.

>>10453908
>Historia made that up
With Nintendos supervision

Wind Waker already all but confirmed that Volvagia isn't just some random monster. It was always odd and basis for fan theories that Gorons are the only tribe with a Spiritual Stone that don't have a guardian

>>10447839
Deku Nuts work on Gohma, Bomb Flowers exist in King Dodongo's arena, the Hookshot works on Phantom Ganon, Din's Fire works to get Morpha out of its water tentacles, and neither the Hover Boots nor the Lens of Truth are required against Bongo Bongo.

>>10453918
The made-up part was Volvagia being a god like the Great Deku Tree or Lord Jabu-Jabu.

>>10454029
It was a total asspull with no founding in the game though, and it's baffling why the Golden Goddesses would allow one of their divine servants to try genociding the Gorons. The Megaton Hammer wasn't even a weapon created by the gods, nor was its first wielder chosen by them. Additionally, if Valoo is somehow a new version of Volvagia a la Jabun being Jabu-Jabu, there's no reason for Valoo to arbitrarily cease being evil.

>>10454073
Valoo is a different type of dragon entirely who shows no animosity to any race in particular, is highly respected and trusted by King Daphnes, and Ganon antagonizes him with Gohma instead of recruiting him like he did with Volvagia. Where Volvagia is clearly a monster a la Aquamentuses and Gleeoks, Valoo is a servant of the gods who has never been suspect.

>>10432604
>>10450963
I'm sure this is just a retarded case of "NEW BAD OLD GOOD" but I always loved the look of the gcs controller layout being on screen in some games. I think having everything in a diamond with no color looks so soulless

>>10454204
>>10454214
So you believe Valoo and Volvagia weren't intended to have any connection and it's just coincidences that
>Valoo's name is a similar play on Volvagia as Jabun's is on Jabu-Jabu's
>he's a red dragon just like Volvagia
>lives on top of a volcano just like Volvagia
>is pissed af just like Volvagia
>the first thing you see when entering the fire dungeon is a Volvagia mural that gives him yellow eyes like Valoo and makes him look more human than his OoT counterpart

>>10454438
The unique HUD is part of why some old games have their charm. Vice City is the best example

>>10419160
>kid gets upset that other people enjoy video games
>tries to act mature by saying he doesn't play game x-y-z
>ends up coming across as deeply immature and insecure
Wonder why they do this

>>10422383
........which one is supposed to be the asian one

Cockroaches in Half-Life 1 have complex AI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elwb2lV88hM

Also, when you explode a human, while most of the gibs fly around randomly, the skull is designed to fly directly towards the camera in the hopes of freaking out the player.

>>10431561
LEAVE HIM ALONE

>>10445769
>IK is dynamic and the first game with it is ICO.
Try Heretic II.

>>10447753
they changed in that the very next game.

>>10454848
Also predated by OoT and Jurassic Chad

>>10455653
Poor fish :(

>>10455728
Fishtoncore?

>>10422320
I remember playing that game at Chuck E Cheese. Well after Sonic released though but I thought it was super cool.

>>10423406
Brilliant play in retrospect