/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10232029
You're right, but that still makes it vastly inferior to both the PS1 and N64.

>>10232029
i've heard this before & yeah i concur; sega saturn was also a better successor to the nec pc-engine than the nec pc-fx was lol

>>10232029
cool blogstory brolet

>>10232029
Saturn is garbage

>>10232107
but its like, good garbage

Why does the Saturn upset this board so much?

>>10232029
It's not so cool once you play the games and realize you have to deal with nonstop slowdown and missing effects/animation compared to the arcade originals..

>>10232159
Nobody likes the shitturn. NOBODY.

>>10232159
E-celebs started to say it's better than the consoles anons grew up with as well as all the fanfic threads surrounding it.

>>10232159
Obnoxious redditors pretend to like it to be le quirky

I played SNES and Genesis at friends’ houses in the mid 1990’s. I got an N64 in 1997. Played N64 and PS1 at multiple friends’ houses for years after. Eventually played Dreamcast at multiple friends’ houses from 1999 onwards.

I never heard of the Sega Saturn until the late 2000’s. What does that say?

>>10232482
I dunno? You're the average 90's kid?

>>10232482
Did you not read gaming mags?

>>10232159
SEGA fanboys think it killed SEGA

>>10232482
How are people not able to be at least aware of it? It got written about on gamemagazines that also featured regular reviews of saturn games.
I have never see a real saturn either but I was super well aware of its existance. (Same for 3do, jaguar, etc)
Or did you fuckers only read some playstation/nintendo only magazine?

>>10232467
They’re pretending? They’re not just playing the games and discussing them?

>>10232331
Delusional thinking there.

>>10232490
>>10232494
You'd be surprised with how little people actually read mags back then.
>>10232495
>>10232497
Don't reply to obvious troll.

>>10232495
They "play" fighting games single player, button mashing against CPU and the worst, most inaccurate port of Dondonpachi with incorrect hitboxes and wrecked scoring system. They don't actually play or understand these games. They use them as a fashion accessory.

I like Astal.

>>10232184
Wrong

>>10232508
I love how /vr/ pretends to be fgc and shmup pros

>>10232029
While PS1 has plenty of pick up and play titles, Saturn excels in this. Skippable FMVs, brief second long intros, snappy menus, quick load times, It is the complete opposite of N64 which despite the speed of load times take their sweet time to get properly started, from minute long openings that don't know when to end, the selection being so limited and played out, it's a slog to even get into many n64 games. Not to mention the fact they're designed for very young children as their first 3D games, Saturn however has a higher difficulty and expects more from the player on average making it a way more satisfying console to game on. Maybe N64 games pay off more after 20 hours of play, and in 1998, but in 2023 my time is too valuable and I need to get into the action right away.

>>10232029
>but as of a PC Engine successor

holy shit no. don't disrespect the pc engine like that
the pc engine has actual quality exclusives, and arcade ports and multiplats when superior have significant differences, unlike the saturn where the differences are often incredibly minor

>>10232572
>and arcade ports and multiplats when superior have significant differences
Like?

>>10232558
>my time is too valuable
Yes. In fact, it's so valuable that you're using it to post on 4chan

>>10232582
while I get paid at work, of course.

Oh sweet, a Sega Saturn thread!
Time to grab some popcorn
I didn't play a lot on it yet but so far I really like Battle Garegga, Guardian Force and Elevator Action Returns

>>10232658
All great games, try the Cotton titles too

>make best controller ever
How did Sega do it?
Sheer luck?

>>10232784
They made Genesis 6-button first

>>10232538
kinda disingenuous
ofc STV games like Soukyugurentai are running fine because it's literally the same hardware.
most other arcade games are far from being perfect.

>>10232825
>kinda disingenuous
And saying all saturn versions of games are inferior isn't? Fuck off you little shit.

>>10232029
It is like the N64. Good for first-party games and not much else. You can play Japanese games on it too if you like (just like every other console), but that's not really where it shines

>>10232039
I prefer it over the N64, but I agree that it's no where near as good as PS1.

>>10232558
I'm sorry to hear you've never played Super Smash Bros or California Speed.

>>10232858
>Good for first-party games and not much else.
You're a fucking retard. Capcom's output alone on the Saturn is more impressive than Sega's first-party offerings.

>>10232874
They're alright. I like Mega Man X4, Street Fighter Collection, and Marvel Super Heroes. Aside from SEGA and Capcom stuff though I wasn't super impressed by anything on it

>>10232029
Had one of these when I was a wee lad. Loved it. Sonic Jam was the tits on the Saturn. As was Clockwork Knight. Hard as shit but satisfying when you cracked it.

>>10232482
There's a theory that Sega Saturn is actually an oniric console that manifestated unto reality in a non-sequential time-space manner. It's kind of like a Mandela effect of video game consoles.
I do remember the Saturn from my childhood, but I am also not from this timeline.

>>10232627
>sunday
My condolences

>>10232039
>>10232029

And how does that matter at all in 2023?

>>10232985
It doesn't, nothing really matter in 2023.

>>10232981
Thanks, we all have our lot in life, mine involves a half work day and free time when everyone else is working so I think it works out.

>>10232029
Don't use that controller, the D-PAD ball is too big nowhere near as good as the original.

>>10232159
>Why does the Saturn upset this board so much?

because ever since the sega-16 forums folded up, people post their what-if-scenarios here instead.

>>10232538
That's a Saturn original game.

>>10233093
that place turned into a desert years ago with only the schizos staying around

>>10232159
No idea. I'm playing heir of zendor right now.

>>10232987
>It doesn't, nothing really matter in 2023.
It hurts much more than I expected...

>>10233093
>Sege-16 forums folded up
WHEN?

>>10233276
>t.doomer who doesn't care like the bitchboy he is.

>>10232987
>t.fool who wants to LET IT ROT
BAILAN

>>10232985
Because you're wasting your money looking for high-impact, must plays on the console.

>>10233392
>it's 2023 and there are still high-impact, must plays around to be found
good to be a saturnfag!

>>10233392
Can't you just burn cds and play them on a Saturn though.

Alright, buckle up, folks. You may think the Sega Saturn is just a normal console, but let me tell you, it's so much more than that. There's some serious paranormal shit going on here.
Picture this: it's the mid-90s, and Sega is struggling to keep up with their rival, Sony's PlayStation. So what do they do? They create the Sega Saturn, a console unlike any other. But here's the thing, only a select few were able to play it. And those who did? They experienced something otherworldly.
See, the Sega Saturn wasn't just a piece of technology. It was a manifestation of the oniric realm itself. The console was a portal to a different dimension, a way for us mere mortals to interact with the unearthly. And only a few paladins, those who were worthy, were able to truly comprehend its power.
But what made the Saturn so special? Why was it such a conduit to the paranormal? Well, there are a few reasons. First off, the Saturn had a dual-processing architecture, which allowed it to handle complex calculations and graphics. And let me tell you, that kind of power is not of this world.
But that's not all. The Saturn also had some seriously trippy games. Take a look at "Nights into Dreams," for example. That game was all about lucid dreaming, a concept that is very much connected to the paranormal. And don't even get me started on "Panzer Dragoon." That game had some seriously otherworldly visuals.
So there you have it, folks. The Sega Saturn was not just a piece of tech. It was a paranormal manifestation of the oniric realm, and only a chosen few were able to experience its power. If you missed out on playing the Saturn in the 90s, well, you missed out on a truly supernatural experience.

>PS1 fans just enjoying their console and the enormous library of games
>Saturn fans have to imagine alternate reality scenarios to enjoy their console.

>>10233862
You still need a Pseudo Saturn cart.

>>10234078
>nights, panzer dragoon, the list goes on...

>>10234930
>final fantasy vii, metal gear, list goes on...

>>10233862
not without modchip or pseudo saturn cartridge.
>>10234078
My brokeass dad got us a saturn in 98 because it was marked down and came with 3 games. I liked the games I had but you'd go into funcoland and see rows of PS used titles and Saturn only had a bin filled with EA sports titles. It wasn't very paranormal but was like ghost hunting shows since nothing happened and it was annoying

>>10234920
Shitposters don't play vidya.
>>10234930
Dragon Force is cool.

>>10234920
playstation fans are the ones most obsessed with console warring, been consistently voted as the worst fanbase on /v/ and they even organize raids and shilling on forums like neogaf (dunno if that's still a thing but I remember years back a lot of the pro-playstation posting on /v/ was organized by neogaf members).
enjoy these movies, though.

>>10234940
You just described N64 fans on /vr/.

>>10234078
I once saw a girl (like 11 or 12 year old) wearing a t-shirt with that picture in it. Still think about that from time to time, how a zoomelette was wearing a t-shirt with a Saturn controller on it (even though she probably wore it because of Kerberos)
she's probably 18+ by now.

>>10234943
You just hate everyone who isn't a Sony fan.
how does it feel to know that current day Sony is not even japanese anymore? Enjoying that californian slop? you guys can't keep winning!

Saturn would be 100% irrelevant if Panzer Dragoon Saga were to be ported somewhere else. I hate having to go dumpster diving on this trash console to play that one.

>>10234978
Zwei > Saga

>>10234920

>>10234978
It's not even the best game on the hardware.

>>10234949
There's no such thing as a "sony fan". Playstations are for normies who rarely are autistic about a console. You can find a fan of a specific PS game or series at most.

>>10234978
Panzer Dragoon Saga would be irrelevant if it were on another console

>>10235048
I enjoy PlayStation as a whole but I'm more of a Sega fan. If you do not enjoy PlayStation games, you probably do not like video games.

>>10234078
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>>10234078
Funny post, I need to play more Saturn games...

>Get a deal on a 2 day old Saturn.
>Never get around to plugging it in.
>It's been sitting unused in a box for 25 years.

>>10236587
Why did you buy it in the first place?

>>10236590
A whole new game system with games for 20 bucks.

>>10236581
Mean

>>10232029
>this is cool
If you have to go to these lengths to convince people your product is good maybe its not all that good.

>>10234945
>Kerberos
huh

>>10232107
fpbp

>>10232467
>le
Go back to 9GAG

>>10232029
what you're saying is just the internet doxa parroted by zoomers this last decade. the saturn experience in the west was not at all what you described (no one cared about shmups, and 2d fighters were marginal) and it had some great 3D games for its short lifespan (the great ps1 exclusives happened when the saturn was already dead).

>>10232029
Anything can be cool under the right type of cope. Still doesn't change history it was a complete failure you latch onto cause you lack any personality.

shit thread. saturn was awesome. so many good games. fuck you all.

The only cope I'm seeing here is from people who don't own a Sega Saturn. You know who you are.

>>10238221
But I have two. I'm even going to upgrade the one I had since I was a kid with modern stuff.

>>10238306
Then you're not coping, my Saturnchad.

>>10238309
Well I also am part of the crowd that questions what the Saturn's most significant titles are.

>>10238360
Well, at the same time, there's no way to prove you've owned your Saturn since you were a kid. So let's leave it at that.

>Console warring almost 30 years after the fact
This thread is fucking pathetic.

>>10238485
yeah nintendo won

>>10234921
>>10234935
>>10233862
You can do it without a modchip, you just need to tape down the disk lid and have an original disc to swap out when the console does the security check.

>>10235004
>It's not even the best game on the hardware.
All the other best games on the console already have ports elsewhere, or are ports themselves. Panzer Dragoon Zwei and Saga are the only ones that don't. And Zwei is getting a remake currently.

>>10238583
>Zwei is getting a remake currently
It's dead

>>10238583
There's a port of Magic Knight Rayearth?

>>10232029
A flashcart for this thing costs 260 dollars. Seems price gouged to hell and back imo

>>10237728
I had import Saturn and many imported games for it. I don't care if average normie murrican didn't have the same experience.

>>10232494
>How are people not able to be at least aware of it? It got written about on gamemagazines that also featured regular reviews of saturn games.
>I have never see a real saturn either but I was super well aware of its existance. (Same for 3do, jaguar, etc)
>Or did you fuckers only read some playstation/nintendo only magazine?

90% of kids didn't have regular access to game magazines and their family's lived on a budget. The only time they ever see advertisements is when they go to the grocery store and see the magazine section. Their family could only afford 1 game system for the kids and usually only around Christmas time or birthdays. Maybe the parents take their kids to the mall beforehand to see what they like at the local game store. Not buy anything but observe what the kid wants. Or speak to Gamestore employee to see what is popular with kids. Nintendo and Playstation had far larger marketing budgets and sold way more than Saturn. Parents want to buy their kids what's popular so they feel included with other kids. So Christmas rolls around and bam a Nintendo 64 is under the Christmas tree. The young son is super excited and is told to make sure he shares it equally with his brother and sister.

>>10240397
Most ODEs for it are around $140. You don't have to get the MODE

>>10240540
NTA, but I just got a Saturn, and I'm thinking about getting an ODE some time down the line. Was thinking the Fenrir since it seems the least expensive. Anything else I should know/get?
Not entirely sure how it all works, but my understanding is you get one of the memory cards and upload ROMS to play off of the ODE right? And you'll want a cartridge to play region locked games and stuff like that too?

>>10241461
ODEs have region free by default but you'll still want a Psuedo Saturn Kai cart for the RAM expansion and save file backups. Some of the ODEs don't let you save directly to the SD card so you save to the Saturn internal memory then move it to the save cart then the SD.

Fenrir is the cheapest that's available.
>Fenrir $140
>Rhea / Phoebe $140 but almost never in stock
>SAROO $160 to $240+
>Satiator $260
>MODE $220 to $300+

So yeah you just need the ode, psk, and a sd card to start

>>10241651
Pic is a mainland Chinese or Hong Kong clone.

>>10232029
Saturn had great potential if it didn't get fucked over by SoA forbidding rpgs and games without 3d graphics. That is of course besides all the other reasons it was a huge pile of shit commercial failure.

>>10241750
In the West, that is.

>>10242121
Everywhere outside of japan actually, japan alone bought more saturns than the rest of the world combined.

>>10242121
>>10242134
Apparently, Saturn was a huge success in Portugal, and just because of this game.
(Based)

>>10242134
There were Sega Saturns that were slightly altered based on Samsung tech as per then still-present restrictions on Japanese originating electronics in South Korea. There's Even quite a few Saturns that got to SE Asia, I think. Anywho, The Saturn Sold the worst in Australia, New Zealand and Europe, worse than anywhere in North America.

>>10232159
FIFA98

>>10242139
Portugese Saturn distributor was also distributing DBZ media there, so they did a bit of cross-promotion.

>>10241651
Do these things fuck up the cartridge slot like people say? I have a few Japanese Saturn games I got in a trade and no way to play em currently.

>>10242231
Hasn't happened to me but people do say the cart slot is delicate so just be careful I guess. It's not like you have a ton of carts to swap in and out so just leave it in there

>>10232331
I would have agreed with you up to yesterday, but now I've completely repented, I love the Saturn, I used to shit post as Bernie and I'm completely changed now, just now I'm playing, black dawn on the Saturn and it's so good. such a deep and rich strategy game, yet it's all about skill as well, can't get enough of it. Sega rally championship might be one of my favorite, games of all time now prob top ten. and this is all coming from a hardcore n64 fan, BUT I think most Bernie shit posters aren't n64 fags, there prob mostly snoyiggers

>>10232467
definitely true, but I genuinely enjoy it now.

>>10232482
My country first got Wal-Mart stores in 1994 or so, but I don't think they were even selling the Saturns there in 1995. If they were it would've been a small, out of the way supply for a very high price. Toys R Us would've stocked them because I remember the kiosk with Virtua Fighter there. No in-store ads that I can recall, and just those very obscure Saturn commercials that aired on music stations.