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Uriel Edition

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>Previous thread:
>>77529693

>TQ
What do you expect from Saturday's Preview

>> No.77533452

40K POOPY FART GAME

>> No.77533465

>>77533444

>> No.77533467

>>77533431
More like no title edition

>> No.77533470

>TQ
They'll announce the codex after DE (probably SoB) and reveal either the new Ork or Skitarii character

>> No.77533499

>TQ
Cow eldar and something cool for the special games
>40k
Hopefully something cool for the xenos. Wouldn't hurt to know if an updated CSM codex will arrive before the rapture

>> No.77533516

>>77533431
>TQ
Marines, marines, marines

>> No.77533517

Got some GSC bikers and a Biophagus as a gift.

The way I understand it, the "best" way of running GSC is lots of acolytes and ridgerunners right? So the SC! Box will probably be a good bet to expand on these guys when I get around to it. Anything else notably worth grabbing?

>> No.77533529

>>77533431
> too stupid to make a proper thread
Save your mother some grief and kys

>> No.77533537

>>77533499
>Cow eldar
I mean.....sure. I could go for a big cow titty eldar gf.

>> No.77533570

>>77533499
cow eldar would basically be Lumineth

>> No.77533573

If you play space marines you're a worse person than people who don't.

>> No.77533576

>>77533465
https://bombshellminis.com/36018-helmet-set-r8/
https://bombshellminis.com/36021-helmet-set-r10/

And for automatons:
https://bombshellminis.com/36028-cybrains-2/
+
https://bombshellminis.com/36026-plastic-dome-sprue-t8/

>> No.77533582

>>77533465


A quick answer would be the dark eldar jetbike and wych dome helmets.

>> No.77533586

>>77533431
GW should start painting eye brows.

>> No.77533587

Speaking of potential flashpoints, work continues on my Rhodesian-themed Imperial Guard. Still hunting for bits to best depict them but what I have so far
>Troops will be mix of white and black soldiers, officers all white
>Black soldiers will have 3rd party heads with African features
>White names will be Boer-esque, black names drawn from 40k-ified names from that area
>Fluffed as loyalist PDF fighting Ork and rebel insurgency in the bush wars of my group's custom subsector
>Key models will have necklaces of Ork ears
>Very unsure on use of shorts

>> No.77533601

>>77533537
What bothers me most about this pic is that the way she holds the multimelta makes no anatomical sense.

>> No.77533603

Can you still build your current army under older editions of the rules?

>> No.77533620

>>77533587
>Very unsure on use of shorts
Pathetic.

>> No.77533623

>>77533603
I think the reverse is more interesting like playing a game with the same army in every edition

>> No.77533625

>>77533576
Oooh, thank you anon, not feeling the brains for automota but I can find other uses for them, this will pretty much do it for me, much as I adore the hoods, I feel these bubble helmets will help make them stand out.

>> No.77533626

>>77533603
Nope because my current army is custodes

>> No.77533630

>>77533431
One word.

>> No.77533632

>>77533603
Yes its called "playing old editions"

>> No.77533634

black library fucking sucks and the only books worth wasting time with are the ones written by ian watson and the imperial armour books. literally everything else is trash (yes, even the book you like because of reasons). it's all fanfiction tier garbage meant to get you to buy models. if you want to read books read actual historical books and then try to 40kify it instead of reading shit 40k books and trying to fluff it out or, god forbid with the current game, playing it out. it's impossible.

>> No.77533636

>>77533603
My army in 4th ed. Was GM and 3 units of termintors and two units of strikes. I can do that army right now, and not just because I still own and play with those models.

>> No.77533643

>>77533603
Almost, but my Lord Discordant prevents it.

>> No.77533649

40K has sucked ever since Space Marines were introduced

>> No.77533655

>>77533620
Agreed. What the fuck, man?
Shorts are kino.

>> No.77533660

>>77533587
Shorts are a must.

>> No.77533662

>>77533634
Nice blog.

>> No.77533672

>His army still uses an 8th edition codex

>> No.77533685

>>77533587
You do all that and *then* skimp on the shorts? What the fuck is wrong with you?

>> No.77533700

>constantly stuck between making a grimdark look for my army or a oldhammer saturated look

>> No.77533707

>>77533431
AVE DOMINUS NOX!

>> No.77533727

>liking shorts past the age of 4
Christ

>> No.77533748

Which one?

>> No.77533755

>>77533587
Rhodesia was a special kind of weird, so if you don't include the weird fucking shorts, what's the point?

>> No.77533772

>>77533587
You gotta do the shorts

>> No.77533774

>>77533626
Custodes were a mistake.
Space marines is too much of a horde army.
I usually face a space marine force with more or the same models as me. They should have been buffed to hell and then made them super expensive point wise.
2 tactical squads, a heavy, a captain and a dreadnought is a fuck load, considering how "rare" and strong they are in story, its annoying to face 20 assalt marines, 10 primaris intersecors, a tank, a captain, some more bullshit and more and more bullshit

>> No.77533775

>>77533748
Tau are not communist. Stop this American meme shit.

>> No.77533792

>>77533517
Leman Russ tanks

>> No.77533795

Wracks are gonna go back to being elites, aren't they?

>> No.77533798

>>77533775
they dont understand what being rural is.

>> No.77533805

Post models !

>> No.77533808

If you buy dead men walking you are a chud and not welcomed to our hobby.

>> No.77533814

>>77533727
at first I was reading it as >"liking shota"

>> No.77533816

>>77533808
if you like dead men walking you are an absolute pleb. i read it. it's trash.

>> No.77533828

>>77533805

>> No.77533831

Which army has the most rotary guns/cannons
Which army has the most missile launchers

>> No.77533832

>>77533775
It’s more a socialist caste system. You can’t interact with things outside of your cast, but you’re expected to serve to the best of your ability, even if it kills you. All for the Greater Good of the Empire as a whole.

>> No.77533840

>>77533603
I can't play my current list because too much necron shit is new, but I guess I can throw together a serviceable Necron list that can be played both today and in the past. The only questions are if I should use Canoptek Wraiths or Ophidian Destroyers models for 3rd edition Wraiths and if I should use Tomb Blades or Destroyers for 2nd edition Destroyers.

>> No.77533842

A store not far from me has a bargain bin with three primaris intercessors and three primaris reivers for 15 euros together. Is that a good deal? I don't even play 40k but I wouldn't mind painting some space marines for a change.

>> No.77533847

>>77533774
What the fuck are you playing anon? its quite easy to outnumber muhreens so I'm scratching my head.

You know tacs are like, 18 points per model right, A fire warriors like, 8.

>> No.77533855

>> No.77533859

>> No.77533863

>>77533792
Going for GSC not IG but even worse

>> No.77533865

>>77533431
>No title
I can assure you OP that it's not that hard.

>> No.77533867

>>77533828
SOUL

>> No.77533871

>>77533774
Agreed, the space marines' thing should be that they're well-equipped and damn hard to kill. Part of the reason dreadnoughts exist is that marines are hard to replace.

>> No.77533872

>>77533816
I mean yeah. Of course chuds have a shitty taste in literature.

>> No.77533874

>>77533855
I have a bigger issue with "the model looks great".

>> No.77533875

>>77533828
>This model didn't win the golden daemon it was entered in.
>Because the judges didn't like the goblin green base.

>> No.77533877

At this point, I might just give my scions normal lasguns. I am stick and tired of painting the fucking 'hot shot' ones.

>> No.77533878

>>77533855
Just stating facts. Helliarch is just gatekeeping as we all should.

>> No.77533882

>>77533808
>chud
>our hobby
Bueno bait

>> No.77533887

>>77533808
>>77533816

fuck both you cunts. Top tier book.

Two absolute hardcore armies of zombie zealots smash into one another, whilst an ensemble cast of civilians and unprepared soldiers are caught in the middle.

No characters grow or develop; everyone is stripped of their humanity, and reduced to their former shells in the wake of the terrible conflict.

As 40k as it gets.

>> No.77533888

>>77533859

>> No.77533910

>>77533887
that sounds like an awful book

>> No.77533912

>>77533727
I like shorts. They are comfy and easy to wear.

>> No.77533915

>>77533847
1 tac = 2w and 4t 3+ save for the cost of 2 fws that = 2w and 3t a 4+ save

SM horde simply because of numbers of wounds now available to them

>> No.77533922

>>77533808
>using chud
yikes

>> No.77533925

>>77533855
Well he's half right, lorewise it is retarded.

>> No.77533926

Hey I want to do an exodite army.
Like eldar riding lizardmen terradons and shit.
I was wondering, are their any good conversions for dinosaur vehicles?
I dont like the ones that are just turrets on the Carnosaur model- eldar tanks fly. Those don't.
Any examples or suggestions?
I was thinking maybe Nids with conversions?

>> No.77533927

>>77533855
Retards need to stop with those female SW. No just because Arjac made a vague allusion to them means it's possible you fuckwit

>> No.77533928

>>77533887
Chud posted this

>> No.77533938

>>77533871
Do they remove the geneseed from marines when they put them in the dread?

>> No.77533943

>>77533603
>Hive Tyrant
>Carnifexes
>Gaunts
You can't beat the classics

>> No.77533951

>>77533926
Come up with it yourself

>> No.77533952

>>77533927
This is like, a 6 months old image.

>> No.77533955

>>77533431

>> No.77533958

>>77533816
I liked it, but I haven't read it yet.

>> No.77533960

>>77533938
nope
the marine stays witht he geneseed

>> No.77533973

>>77533955
Can't wait for another top tier ork unit along the lines of the op Deffkilla Wartrike

>> No.77533982

>>77533955

>> No.77533985

>>77533955
Top right is really weird and I can't figure out what it's actually supposed to be. Obvious answer is "a motorcycle", but the shape is all wrong.

>> No.77533988

>>77533875
>This model didn't win the golden daemon it was entered in.
>Because the judges are complete and utter faggots
Ftfy.

>> No.77533993

>>77533887
it's the worst take on the death korps

book's fine but overrated

>> No.77533998

>>77533955
Monowheel ork?

>> No.77534005 [SPOILER] 

>>77533915
Wounds do not equal models senpai.

2 squads of fire warriors may be less durable than 1 squad of marines but being able to stand in two places at once has its own advantages.

Lorewise marines have always been about concentration of force, just play around the fuckers or shoot them with D2 and render their second wound worthless.

t. Deldar.

>> No.77534008

>>77533847
Because why would space marines spend out on super expensive stuff when a new standard quad has 10 wounds at toughness 4, have weapons which wound on 3s against most of the game, have bullshit different round types for bolters making them even better etc.

I think my dire avenger squad might cost almost half as much, but they take down on average ONE marine for every squad killed. And you can easily have 20 or more marines on field in even low point battles

>> No.77534009

>>77533431
Oh no no no.
How will the Space Mutts ever recover from this?

>> No.77534018

>>77533985
Orks have been known to replace their legs with a single motor wheel.

>> No.77534020

>>77533943
If 'nids had kept more of the 2nd Edition look, I'd probably have a small army of them today.

>> No.77534025

>>77533587
>>77533755
Those aren't shorts https://youtu.be/Aam04_Y7iV0

>> No.77534033

>>77533952
Still bother me to this day, my army is already furry central, I don't want it to become the Femarines faction in addition. Maybe I'm too thin-skinned about that.

>> No.77534034

How to paint orange plasmaguns/pistols

Corax white base
Iyaden yellow
gryph-hound orange near the edges, feathering up to give a transition between orange and yellow
Fleshtears red in edges of plasmagun
highlight corax white

>> No.77534042

>>77533805

>> No.77534045

Reposting:

What's a cool McGuffin to have as an objective in a king of the hill game? My group is planning an absurd FFA game played over a weekend once lockdown's over. I'm trying to think of an object that a diverse group of armies would conceivably fight over that isn't just 'chaos artifact'. Any ideas, /40kg/?

>> No.77534046

>>77534020
New nids are by and large massive improvements on these. Especially Warriors, old ones are fucking abhorrent

>> No.77534048

>>77534009
Did the SW even suffer from this?
It seems devastating, but I feel like "rah rah the spirit is with us always and nothing of value was lost" was the outcome

>> No.77534055

I'll give £100 to anyone who can provide me with proof that orks think the colour purple is sneaky

>> No.77534056

>>77534034
orange plasma overheats more often

#metal coil gang

>> No.77534057

>>77534046
It's okay to be wrong on the internet. At least you're anonymous here.

>> No.77534067

>> No.77534069

>>77534034
Who asked

>> No.77534071

>>77533847
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [55 PL, 1,000pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

**Chapter Selection**: Ultramarines

+ HQ +

Captain [5 PL, 77pts]: Chainsword, Master-crafted boltgun

Chief Librarian Tigurius [7 PL, 130pts]

Lieutenants [5 PL, 63pts]
. Lieutenant: Chainsword, Master-crafted boltgun

+ Troops +

Infiltrator Squad [5 PL, 110pts]: 4x Infiltrator, Infiltrator Sergeant

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Bolt rifle
. 4x Intercessor
. Intercessor Sergeant

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Bolt rifle
. 4x Intercessor
. Intercessor Sergeant

+ Fast Attack +

Inceptor Squad [7 PL, 123pts]: Assault bolter x2, 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant

Suppressor Squad [4 PL, 90pts]
. 2x Suppressor: 2x Accelerator autocannon, 2x Grav-chute
. Suppressor Sergeant: Accelerator autocannon, Grav-chute

+ Heavy Support +

Eliminator Squad [4 PL, 72pts]
. Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle, Camo cloak
. 2x Eliminator with Bolt Sniper: 2x Bolt sniper rifle, 2x Camo cloak

Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: Plasma incinerator
. 4x Hellblaster
. Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol

++ Total: [55 PL, 1,000pts] ++


Ignore the list its for context.
At 1000 points marines can field around 30 minis,
up it to 2000 points your looking at 50 minis
its a fucking horde and they are supposed to be ultra rare, unable to hold the line everywhere at once elites

>> No.77534072

>>77534046
Fuck you! DICK BEAK!

>> No.77534073

>>77534046
Reminder that genestealers should be their own fraction and rolling them into the Tyranid line was dumb as fuck

>> No.77534086

>>77534048
Fenris population is fucked beyond repair and chaos entities still roams the planet, that's about it.

>> No.77534087

>>77534073
No, you're stupid.

>> No.77534090

>>77534067
>Bigger batman
Nighthawk, Deathstroke, Ra's Al Ghul to name a few

>> No.77534091

Post models

>> No.77534093

>>77534057
This isn't up for debate, these guys look stupid as hell

>> No.77534098

>>77534073
Yeah! Like some kind of cult of genestealers!

>> No.77534102

>>77534091
No. I won't.

>> No.77534103

>>77534045
>diverse group of armies
Dragon dildo. In trans colours.

>> No.77534104

>>77534045
A big weapon
A webway portal
Blackstone cache

>> No.77534108

>>77534091
I hate you for your carpet

>> No.77534110

>>77534045
Old One technology.

>> No.77534113

>>77534008
Anon I know dire avengers are garbage, EVERYONE knows avengers are garbage, you don't have to say avengers are garbage.

doesn't change the fact that you can still outnumber marines, even if you're outnumbering them with garbage.

>How would you fix dire avengers?

>> No.77534120

post big titty eldars

>> No.77534121

>>77534069

No one. Thought I'd add something that maybe someone, somewhere, might be able to use to make a cool effect or to improve their painting.

Wait, I'm in 40kg, nvm

>> No.77534125

>>77534055
The fact you can't find proof proves how correct the statement is.

>> No.77534129

>>77534090
Night Wing....

>> No.77534132

>>77534067
More like Batman Inc.

>> No.77534134

>>77534073
Yeah the "lol your dudes get fucked even if they win" shit is awful

>> No.77534140

>>77534093
Don't worry, it's safe here.

>> No.77534145

>>77534108

It's not a carpet, it's a cover ontop of my bedding (Thank goodness I got new bedding).

>> No.77534151

>>77534098
Exactly, get rid of all ties to Tyranids, they're so out of place in those armies

>> No.77534155

>>77534045
Functioning man of iron brain

>> No.77534157

>>77534120
Feeding my eldar gf to make her titty grow

>> No.77534161

>>77534113
You see eldar actually cant outnumber them.
If you choose to use more than 10 dire avengers as troops you are losing at list.
If you use scorps, hawks, banshees, etc you are losing.
At best you use 2 5 man DA squads, and then focus like fuck on 250 point elites like wraithguard/blade, which is more than space marine or 1 mini units like war walkers.
You actually get horded by space marines as eldar

>> No.77534173

>>77534134
Retard

>> No.77534174

>>77534045
Some kind of ancient xenotech superweapon, maybe pre-fall eldar or necron tech.

>> No.77534179

>>77534120

>> No.77534180

>>77534091
Some of my dudes

>> No.77534186

>>77534113
for your question
>you can't.
The game is powercrept too hard. You would have to give them T4, or 3+ armour to make them viable.

okay, they are played, but they arent viable

>> No.77534187

>>77534120

go home Gulliman; you're drunk.

>> No.77534189

>>77534173
Not an argument

>> No.77534194 [SPOILER] 

>>77534120
>>77534120
My eldar folder is pretty shitty and old

>> No.77534201

>>77534125

>> No.77534216

>>77533748
The lore is all written from different perspectives. Only the lore written from the perspective of loyalists should be taken as imperium propaganda. Otherwise is is just the propaganda of whatever perspective it is written from.

>> No.77534219

>>77534048
Until GW rewrites the campaign, in favour of the SW, their system is currently in really bad shape.

>> No.77534220

>>77534194
you just got me fired anon I am fuming.

>> No.77534221

>>77534186
>they are played, but they arent viable
???

>> No.77534224

>> No.77534234

>>77533805
These things just make me want 40Kart

>> No.77534238

>I'm getting that urge to start a DE Kabalite army again
Help..

>> No.77534241

>>77534071
>30 models in 1000 points is a horde faction.
>Nids orks and guard can bring that many models in one unit for ~200 points.

>> No.77534249

I really enjoyed DoW's planetary conquest campaign. Is that how Crusade campaigns play out at all?

>> No.77534251

>>77534234
Instead here's another shitty Chinese mobile game whilst Oldhammer gets TW Warhammer 3

>> No.77534262

>>77534121
It's not even good though.

>> No.77534264

>>77534234

>> No.77534269

>>77534221
they are played because there is nothing else. It's like using a clothes hook for an abortion.
It literally is not good, or okay, or even viable but there is nothing else.

>> No.77534273

>>77534241
8 x 30 = 240
5 x 30 = 150
First proves you wrong and the second are grots

>> No.77534277

>>77534189
Correct, it's an insult against your shitty retarded opinion.

>> No.77534292

>>77534241
>200 points of orkz is 30 models
prove it you fucking retard.

>> No.77534294

>>77534221
They're played purely because 5 avengers + double shuriken exarch is the cheapest way to fill out a battalion and no one playing eldar competitively wants to lose CP because the armies super hungry.

personally I don't bother with any eldar troops because I like to have units that do something other than catch incidental small arms fire.

>> No.77534297

What happened to all those trash 40k anime that was meant to come out

>> No.77534303

>>77534292
>>77534273
Retards

>> No.77534304

>>77534020
Face is too humanlike, crest is dope as fuck, drippy dick is hilarious

>> No.77534313

>be me
>get into 40k
>buy the eldar minis I love the look of
>10 striking scorpions and their lord
>they get absolutely fucking punted within 2 turns my standard primaris squads in melee
i-is it the netdeckers fault or the balance team...

>> No.77534314

>>77534091

>> No.77534315

>>77534303
Not an argument

>> No.77534326

>>77533912
Based.
>>77533727
Cringe.

>> No.77534330

>>77534313
>playing sm
It's your own fault

>> No.77534331

>>77534297
Hopefully it's dead

>> No.77534335

>>77534020

This is awful

>> No.77534336

>>77534315
You don't need to argue with retards that can't read, you just call them retarded.

>> No.77534341

>>77534294
If they're the best way of accomplishing something that is used in competitive lists then they are by definition viable

>> No.77534342

>>77534161
eldar CAN outnumber them anon.

They just can't outnumber them and win because craftworlders are garbage rn.

The hit mod rework was essentially tailor made to kneecap elf Comp and because internal balance is always shit with elf codexes the rest of the army can't compete.

>> No.77534344

>>77533832
So they're Hindoos?

>> No.77534366

>>77534342
>they can outnumber them
this is such a weird angle to take, a lot of things CAN happen.
But if you are playing, even ultra casually with some idea of winning you wont.
Space marines SHOULD be like 20 minis at 1000 points and strong as fuck, able to concentrate force on an objective or two but not be able to cover all the ground unless they specalise

>> No.77534367

>>77534344
yup with a mix of Confucianism

>> No.77534372

>>77534313
>be me
you mean "be reddit"

>> No.77534376

>>77534342
Hopefully they might get some special rules that let them stack modifiers. . To and extent and limited to certain units. Noone wants to relive the nightmare of the eldar plane lists but they went too far to correct the problem.

>> No.77534378

>>77534344

poo in the loo, Hardeep

>> No.77534385

>>77534201
that anon's a faggot
orks follow the solid snake camouflage philosophy (presumably including the silly gator hats and scientist uniforms)

>> No.77534386

>>77534336
Oh OK. Retard

>> No.77534388

>>77534179
You are cancer

>> No.77534390

>>77534048
>>77534086
>>77534219
I am pretty sure Fenris has been almost destoyed and then recovered multiple times in recent years in ways that often contradicted themselves. An anon a few time ago made a greentext list of all of those and relative publication and it was a clusterfuck.

>> No.77534392

>>77534194
Nice

>> No.77534401

>>77534385
These aren't very good commandos, you can clearly see them. But you cant see the purple ones behind them can you

>> No.77534407

>>77534113
Dire avengers are highly cost effective, reasonably versatile, and can get a permanent +1 to hit and wound thanks to exarch powers. They are far from terrible

>> No.77534415

>>77534313
Welcome to playing Eldar, it's shit

>> No.77534416

>>77534055
Actually, the Dakka Squadron game has purple marked as 15% Stealth.

>> No.77534418

>>77534366
Space Marines aren't Custodes. Eldar are supposed to be elite too unless they go guardians spam.

>> No.77534420

>>77533875
>the golden daemon it was entered in.
Nigger, stop lying. Hidalgo only painted that in 2020, and there weren't any GDs held last year, the only 2 that got scheduled were both going to be at cancelled conventions (Adepticon and Warhammer Fest)

>> No.77534430

>>77534264
Kino. Imagine the item boxes.

>> No.77534433

>>77534313
Karandras is overpriced and marines are better than everyone save orks at melee in general anon

>> No.77534437

>>77533955
I'm a massive orkfag and I'm just preparing for disappointment. It's either going to be a few 30 dollar hq clampacks that aren't worth a second look. MAYBE we'll get a lovely kit on the level of nobs, flashgits, or meganobz, but I doubt it. We're in deep need for tankbustas/kommandos but none of this stuff seems like that.

>> No.77534455

>>77534433
>Orks
>Good at melee
Kek

>> No.77534468

Thoughts?

>> No.77534472

>>77534437
Fuck new units, make the ones I currently have worth fielding.

>> No.77534474

>>77534437
Those rockets could be a rocket hammer, but yeah we'll see.

>> No.77534476

>>77534455
Back when getting 2 base attacks was cool and unique.

>> No.77534480

>>77534385
>their underwear is purple
Like fish in a barrel with you people.

>> No.77534484

>>77534418
>eldar arent custodes
are you new? up until very recently custodes were fucking failures who refused to do anything after failing their one job.

Space marines, for a long ass time were the greatest warriors of man, except they were rare, the geneseeds were not common and the tech needed for them was atrophying. Whatever I might get little details wrong.
Point is, when your shitty back water planet is WAGGGHd by 10,000 orcs the marines might come bail you out by sending 50 or so marines at you. They are elite, rare, valuable and stretched thin.

Obviously you have moments were hundreds, and sometimes thousands gather, but a lot of chapters that look after big bits of space only have 500 marines, and they need to be in a lot of places.

>> No.77534487

>>77534455
On a factionwide level, orks are very good at melee. In a dedicated melee unit VS dedicated melee unit scenario that doesn’t involve characters, orks lose to marines. Sadly.

>> No.77534499

>>77533431
>What do you expect from Saturday's Preview
New Grotesques, Mandrakes, Beastmasters and HQ choices for Dark Eldar
Triumvirate of Commorragh: Lady Malys, Duke Sliscus, Asdrubael Vect with the Dias of Destruction, each model can be mounted on the Dias to give different buffs.
Tyranid range overhaul with Primaris scale Genestealers, huge Carnifexes and a plastic Hierodule
Squats vs. Exodites box set
Upscaled Battlefleet Gothic revival box set with the Vengeful Spirit facing off against The Enternal Crusader
4th War of Armageddon featuring plastic Steel Legion, Feral Orks, Ork Kommandos, Ork Snipers, Angron and the World Eaters and Fulgrim and the Emperor's Children
No Primaris
source: Trust me.

>> No.77534502

>>77534484
>eldar arent custodes
KEK I meant space marines not eldar.

>> No.77534503

>>77534476
Does it bug the shit out of anybody else that Kabbalite warriors will be A2? It seems like a thoroughly unwarranted and senseless change

>> No.77534506

>>77534468
>Thoughts
Man's natural drive to create can only be placated with room to expand on his creations. Once he's filled his soace, stagnation sets in. Destruction is needed to clean the slate and allow creation once more.

>> No.77534514

>>77534487
Orks are good at melee if you ignore the game. Got it.

>> No.77534515

>>77534179
based

>> No.77534516

>>77534468
I'm not a 100% certain what this image is trying to convey

>> No.77534524

>>77534048
Their spirit was broken so severely that they accepted the Primaris without any fuss.

>> No.77534525

>>77534262
I like the bug head. Alot

>> No.77534531

>>77534468
You have to much time anon

>> No.77534545

>>77534503
>ah cool my striking scorpions attack twice
>everything now has 2 wounds

Okay cool my Warlock is a good unit
>only has 4 wounds
>dies to literally any good weapon instantly

>> No.77534566

>>77534506
Neat.
>>77534514
My Nobz would like a word with you anon

>> No.77534576

>>77534484
You are talking about Movie Marines, not about Marines as they always existed on the tabletop.

>> No.77534579

>>77534468
is the helbrute from dark imperium ever going to become a kit we can buy?

>> No.77534584

>>77534468
No clue what it's trying to tell us

>> No.77534590

>>77534313
>Be me
>Start eldar for crusade
>1 wraithseer 1 farseer 1 squad of bikes 1 squad DA 1 squad hawks
>Kick the shit out of my yiff player friend all 3 games so far.

>> No.77534591

>>77534503
it gives them an incentive to charge into small basic infantry units they would otherwise merely ignore, which is pretty fluffy as raiders/slave takers

but yes it's fairly token and pointless

>> No.77534592

>>77534545
Striking scorpions have been seriously hurt by the power creep over the years, it’s a damn shame too seeing as I can’t imagine anyone not liking the green guys.

>> No.77534598

>>77534487
Kinda hard to keep up with marines after all of their new buffs to not only base marines but their weapons too. Chainswords got extra rippy and the entire squad gets them.

>> No.77534602

>>77534468
Grey Knights are the least supported faction with a standalone Codex.

>> No.77534605

>>77534579
The Helbrute plastic kit already exist anon. But if you are talking about the snapfit one the answer is no.

>> No.77534608

>>77534576
no im talking about Marines. How they are represented in every book, comic, graphic novel, novel, short, codex, rulebook.

>> No.77534612

>>77534531
Every new sculpt since 7th divided by faction.

>> No.77534614

>>77534566
>3 attacks
>Ws 4
>27 ppm
>Dd3
Kek

>> No.77534616

>>77534590
He must be a bad player

>> No.77534631

>>77534579
Considering plastic deff koptas never ever got a release despite their kti being one of the oldest left in print, no.

>> No.77534635

>>77534590
I play Yiff, and I get my shit fucked by my Eldar friend, too much psyker for me to handle

>> No.77534636

>>77534598
At this point the only way to make things better would be to nerf marines, but marketing says nerfs reduce sales so we’ll only be seeing number go up from now on.

>> No.77534641

How to Orks feel about robots and AI?

>> No.77534643

>>77534631
AoBR are still the best Ork models ever released

>> No.77534647

>>77534468
>guardsmen
ohnononononon
remember when they were like the second favourites? I knew many new players who loved their modern military appeal

>> No.77534658

>>77534468
Knights got more unique models than TSons, that stings ngl
I am not including ported fantasy models

>> No.77534659

>>77534641
Impartial as enemies, not part of their culture

>> No.77534667

>>77534590
you've been posting about this game for months now, play more games

>> No.77534668

>>77534631
>>77534605
they are currently webstore exclusive on their site, so my current LGS (not GW) won't order them

>> No.77534670

>>77534635
>charge foward
>keep charging
>melee
>consolidate into their back line
you now win

>> No.77534674

>>77534614
Nobz hit on 3 you git

>> No.77534684

>>77534614
>using power klaws instead of killsaws
>not factoring in the ever present waagh banner and wierdboy buffs
> not giving your Nobz dual choppas for 5 attacks each so they’re hitting on 2s with S5 to delete hordes and anything else that doesn’t have a 2+ save

>> No.77534701

>>77534641
Not something they produce, so they view them as things to krump, enslave, and loot as normal

>> No.77534707

>>77534636
At this point marines are the base level, and everyone else now has to out do them or be swept under the rug. So if chaos marines don’t get even more options compared to loyalist, they’re just gonna end up as fodder for daemons and knights at best.

>> No.77534715

>>77534614
If you build them like a retard I guess.

>> No.77534725

Fuck it. These are now mydudes
Hermanos Galacticos (galactic brothers)
Salamander successor chapter
Semi-codex adherent
Motto: "For the Brothers, For the Saints, For the Most Holy Emperor!"
Chapter master: name WIP aka "El Mas Chingon" (The most badass)
Homeworld: temperate climate planet of Caliente, upon landing the original space marines came to discover that a lot of the organic plants and wildlife were spicy. Even when harvested and reconfigured for space marine consumption the spicy was way hotter than mild. Like güey hot. This lead them to have enlarged belcher glands, and reinforced their love for hot firery weapons, as they wish to share the fire in their stomachs with the galaxy.
Flamers, flamers everywhere, how else will they make their carne asada? Unfortunately, the centuries on this planet has also given them a slight weakness. They must siesta, no matter what. (On the tabletop, they must skip their 2nd turn.) They are builders, although they might not always build to the exact specs listed in the codex Astartes, but this knowledge of forts and castles has assisted in their ability in breaking past sieges and breaking past most defenses. On their planet, lies their great monastery "La Taqueria", and when on crusade, they travel the void in their capital ship "La Gran Piñata".
Chapter Culture: they believe in the divinity of the Emperor, and even in those to perform miracles on his behalf, the Saints.
Structure: Hermanos are the rank and file Marines. Marines who become veterans of countless battles are honored with a chance to join the elite forces of the "The Marachis". Those that prefer stealth can through their lot in with the chapter's Stealth troops, "Las Sombras". Finally, any marine who dies performing great deeds that honor the chapter may go on to be entombed into the chapter's most revered dreadnoughts and become one of "The Bad Hombres".
1/2

>> No.77534727

>>77534674
Not with pks or ps dumbass.
And if you're not taking those
>Ap 1 / 0
Kek

>> No.77534730

>>77533805
>There's Something About Mary hairdo

>> No.77534734

>>77534608
Marines aren't stronger than elite stuff from other armies. Tyranid Warriors, Ork Nobz, Necron Immortals, Crisis Suits are all things stronger than a normal marine in the fluff. Yes, they are supposed to be able to slaughter gaunts or Ork boyz or guardsmen or cultists by the hundreds, but you can't have that on the tabletop because it would mean having those models be 1ppm and it would be absolutely broken even if their stats were reduced to compensate.

>> No.77534742

>>77534707
CSM will get 2W, confirmed, WHEN their 9th Ed Codex arrives

>> No.77534744

>>77534725
2/2
Homebrew tactics: 2 CP "Get in, we gotta go!"
Through pure strength or some sort of Liberian warp powers The Hermanos are able to squeeze double the models into their transports. Rules for embarking and disembarking remain the same.
1 CP "We have tacos at home!"
Reroll charge rolls
Aesthetics: colors white/sand, green and red, most hermanos if not all units wear a sombrero and a poncho
"The Marachis" - fancier black with white trim sombreros, and they carry mariachi instruments
"Las Sombras" day of the dead color schemes
"The Bad Hombres" - chapter colors, a bit of grime,
Weapon conversations: powerswords might become pinata sticks or churros, model some bolters into six shooters

>> No.77534751

>>77533831
Tau for both

>> No.77534756

>>77533748
It's a bit of both, really. The Tau are inspired by the scarier aspects of communism, like the militant atheism and aggressive collectivism, but a lot of 40K lore is literally in universe propaganda and in universe speculation.

>> No.77534758

>>77534590
What did you do to that Wraithseer man

>> No.77534763

>>77534727
Big choppas are more reliable. Plus, everyone tries to just drown their opponents in attacks so most nob mobs are duel choppas to hack units apart with five attacks each.

>> No.77534772

>>77534684
>245 points to kill fodder
Kek

>> No.77534781

>>77533855
The fact this still kind of works as bait is sad.

>> No.77534789

>>77534742
Wasn’t there some FAQ that gives all base marines 2 wounds, including chaos?

>> No.77534797

>>77534616
Hes really salty about the wraith seer and falling for the 'FW models op' meme. The first game, it was my first time play the army didnt know quite what was good or not so sure whatever.

Second game is assasinate. His termies deep strike and can charge either the farseer surrounded by DAs with fortune, or has an open lane to the wraithseer. He charged the DA squad, they hold out cause of fortune and gets wreked by smites and a wraithseer counter charge.

Third game I realize how good fire and fade can be, and proceeded to move and groove all over the fucking board. The termies fail the charge on the wraithseer, and the captain is just out of range. The wraithseer charges the captain and squares up, and wins, while the termies massecre the rest of my army. The last couple of termies square up with my far seer who makes ALL OF HIS INVONRABLE SAVES. Then they get finished off my the wraithseer.

I mean the thrid game her TRIED to get the charge and take care of the wraithseer. But he acts like he has no answer for it and gets super pissy about it. All he has to do is get a charge with the termies and/or some HQs and focus it.

>> No.77534801

>>77534437
Yeah, Kommandos and Tanks would be at the top of my list of "Needed improvements" and I really doubt it's either.

New Boyz or a new Warboss wouldn't be bad either though.

>> No.77534803

>>77534756
almost got me to reply seriously

>> No.77534820

>>77534763
Giving each nob a big choppa and a normal choppa is a nice option since you still get 4 attacks per model and you have the extra S, AP, and D of the big choppa for most of those swings
>>77534727
If you go dual killsaws that’s 4 attacks per unit at S10 AP-4 and D2, granted they do only hit on 4s but that’s still fairly scary

>> No.77534826

>>77534684
What are good Nob melee builds anyway? I tend to mostly stick to Big Choppa's since Power Claws are expensive and come in small amounts.

>> No.77534827

>>77534684
The patrician choice is choppa + big choppa. Carve up primaris and light vehicles like nobodies business without breaking the bank for kill saws.

>>77534643
Best half of any starter set uncontested, save perhaps the marine half of that very box.

>> No.77534832

>>77534579
They sold the DV helbrute separately for a while. You just missed out.

>> No.77534835

>>77534801
Flashgitz armour improvement and permanent bs4 please.
Also get them the fuck out of freebootas

>> No.77534844

>>77534789
No

>> No.77534846

>>77534789
It gives the Adeptus Astartes 2 wounds, either in that article or a more recent one GW has stated ALL sort of first born marines will be getting a buff, with 2W confirmed for CSM, but currently they are 1W and will remain so until their new Codex arrives, whenever the fuck that is.

>> No.77534848

>>77534803
? I am serious. Even if you don't think Militant atheism is bad, it is a central part of a lot of anti communist propaganda.

>> No.77534849

>>77534468
I don't understand what you're trying to say here or why you left out the units that you did

>> No.77534858

>>77534797
Sounds like your buddy’s dice fucking hate him.

>> No.77534865

>>77534835
Don't Flashgitz already have bs4?

>Also get them the fuck out of freebootas
I would rather they just buff freebootas. It's like the only unique unit they have.

>> No.77534873

>>77534758
Try to paint way above my weight class. It was the first eldar thing I painted. The idea is that the character is super old and scorched from being in so many battles. But im bad, so it came out kinda shit. Dont feel bad though, all the wraithseer bits are recast, so it was a cheap mistake.
>>77534667
I want too, but work sucks ass and we hardly ever have the same days off to play anymore.

>> No.77534876

>>77534846
I'm betting at the end of the year.

>> No.77534882

>>77534865
On paper but shit range and heavy guns makes it superficial

>> No.77534890

We need a warboss that look like this pic.

>> No.77534900

>>77534313
Your fault for playing shitty eldar.

Play some marines, or at least an imperial faction

>> No.77534911

>>77534882
Why you just teleport a big squad led by Badrukk ala Brutal Kunnin'.

Good book.

>> No.77534914

>>77534890
he would look very cool with two lightning bolts parallel on his banner or something but I'm trans idk if that matters

>> No.77534919

>>77534882
That's fair.

Honestly, I still dream of them giving the Freebootas a Space Marine chapter esque supplement. I want them to be THE Orc shooting faction, but at the moment Bad Moons are way more consistent.

>> No.77534924

>>77534890
We need a giant non mega armour Warboys because I'm tired of shit men suits ignoring the orks get bigger and stronger the more they fight.

>> No.77534927

>>77534900
>dude just play marines
Cancer that is killing 40k

>> No.77534930

>>77534890
Isn't that racist or something?

>> No.77534935

Making a Successor chapter feels like cheating.

I can take Hungry for Battle, Whirlwind of Rage and makes them SW successors so now on turn 3 they do 2 extra hits on 6s.

Then I can take a Chief librarian and give him psychic mastery for +1 to casting and give him a runic weapon so now his force weapon is S6 and he gets +1 to deny the witch.

I can take a primaris Indomitus captain with a master crafted power sword and make it a frost weapon and now it's S6 AP-3 D3, it's now better than most named relics.

Being able to pick and choose all these rules seems almost unfair. They put limits on Successors like no named characters and only 1 named relic per army but in many cases that hardly matters.

>> No.77534938

>>77534911
Or put them in a Squiggoth so no movement penalty and style points

>> No.77534941

>>77534924
I honestly just want a generic warlord model that you can use as a lord of war. The new Ghazghkull model looks great, but I'm not a goff player.

>> No.77534943

Follow instructions or roll a D20.

This post is also my roll for tonight.

>> No.77534948

>>77534744
>dotd judiciar
love it, very cool

>> No.77534952

>>77534659
>>77534701
I thought they had models of tinny boyz

>> No.77534960

>>77534938
That is probably the ideal way to play them. It's expensive as hell though, especially with the changes to lord of war.

>> No.77534962

>>77534943
& I got to uwuuuuu

Gotta deal with the retard hottie again

>> No.77534967

Rolled 6, 5 = 11 (2d6)

>>77534943
Roll

>> No.77534969

>>77534858
That last game he had some bad rolls. But at the same time, he has marine stats and has a hard time keeping his reroll hqs in range of his other dudes. He either played to scared and/or advancing makes the spacing fucky. He kicked the shit out of me in our ork games, so I dont feel bad.

>> No.77534972

Hot take.
All "fast but fragile" units/armies should be able to move shoot move.

Yes, in previously edition it was cancer. But nowadays it's balanced heavily by the fact that if you use it to stay away and hidden you aren't taking objectives and you are losing the mission.

>> No.77534974

No need to roll.

Fuck, marry, kill GO

>> No.77534975

>>77534930
I don't see anything racist. Seriously I don't.

>> No.77534976

>>77534938
Pretty sure they FAQed that, much like how they did so for Battlewagons.

>> No.77534980

>>77534943
Any girl will do I just don't want to be alone anymore
https://youtu.be/djU4Lq_5EaM

>> No.77534982

>>77534943
deathwatch and grey knights were the best girls and you've omitted them

>> No.77534984

Rolled 15 (1d100)

>>77534943
Rolling

>> No.77534988

>>77534960
Squigs are heavy, Garg squigs are low

>> No.77534989

>>77534480
They're obviously going kommando anon.

>> No.77534993

>>77534943
Rolling

>> No.77534994

>>77534614
Why in the fuck would you ever take a power klaw when kill saws are just objectively better?
1 extra ap and no chance to get a dud and do 1 damage.

>> No.77535001

>>77534943
>>77534974
DO NOT ROLL BROTHERS. IT IS HERESY.

>> No.77535007

>>77534938
Not to mention the howda rules let you shoot out of combat when embarked, so you can charge right on into ripper swarms and have a borderline invincible gun platform for the rest of the game (assuming no one falls back)

>> No.77535008

Rolled 4 (1d20)

>>77534984
oops
Again

>> No.77535014

Is there an ideal paint job for smol marines that’s generic and not an offensive color? I’d like to use the miniatures as time goes on and they are phased out in other war games but still want to preserve their use in 40k a little longer. I have over 100 marines to paint

>> No.77535018

>>77534967
9 and 7 then

>> No.77535019

>>77534943
That the lady magnus is not red bothers me on a deep level

>> No.77535028

>>77534960
Only the big squiggoth is a LoW, normal ones are heavy support

>> No.77535033

>>77534976
Squiggoths have a specific rule that says models don't get penalties for shooting when it moves.

>> No.77535034

>>77534943
roll. my heart is with alpharius

>> No.77535039

>>77534988
Yeah. But you will want to go for the Garg. Heavy support is way too valuable if you are going for a shooting based Orcs army.

Seriously, the Elite section of Orc armies really needs a buff. Why are Deff Dreads still heavy supported when their equivalent in every other army is Elite?

>> No.77535045

>>77534976
They did not.

>> No.77535051

>>77534982
What’s his deathwatch gal look like?

>> No.77535065

>>77535028
See: >>77535039

I'll also add that normal Squggoth's can only carry 10 flash gitz.

>> No.77535076

>>77535033
Keep that in mind when I make an even shootier ork list.

>> No.77535080

>>77534982
Its getting the rolling table correct anon, I could add DW and Grey Knights as 2 & 11, but they aren't those legion numbers. I will add them to the next table (post tomorrow) as some sort of alternative option with a few others. If you have other suggestions let me know.

>> No.77535084

>>77535065
Why would you be fielding more than 10 Flashgitz

>> No.77535094

>>77534974
Fuck tyranid, marry thousand daughter, kill the cultist

>> No.77535097

Rolling

>> No.77535098

When do Heroic Intervening units fight? After chargers but before charged units?

>> No.77535110

>>77535039
Carnifexes are heavy support, so are wraith lords. Frankly the only dread equivalent I can think of that is elite is literally the SM dreadnought.

>> No.77535119

>>77534943
Wait if you always have to subtract one and the only way to get 20 is dubs and dubs is always Alpha Legion how is anyone supposed to roll Raven Guard?

>> No.77535120

>>77535076

>> No.77535121

>>77535084
Because, alongside lootas, they are pretty much the only shooting Orc unit worth a danm.

>> No.77535129

>>77535019
The nickname is a reference to her bush

>> No.77535130

>>77534960
Speaking of ork lords of war, is the kill tank actually kind of decent now? At only 275 points, it dosen't seem that bad. Rolling 30 dice for one gun also just sounds like good fun.

>> No.77535133

>>77534744
Will the land speeders be low-riders?

>> No.77535139

>>77535110
Weird. I guess it's GW favorite children some love as usual.

>> No.77535140

>>77535121
The fact you rank loots makes your opinion worthless. Also its orks

>> No.77535144

>>77535119
Its in the rules, the pic is old and needs editing lol AL is trips (they are triplets so this is fitting), so RG is dubs technically.

>> No.77535161

>back in 19
>19
>1994

>> No.77535162

>>77535120
They came out far too big

>> No.77535163

How does this seem for a crusade force/500 point army:
-100 pts reserved for new admech HQ (it better be a fucking Skitarii I swear to the Omnissiah)
-2x10 Secutarii Hoplite squads, no upgrades
-4x5 Secutarii Peltast Squads, each with an onmispex

>> No.77535167

>>77534943
Fuck it, let's do it.

>> No.77535181

>>77535130
I have literally never seen one used, so I couldn’t tell you anon. Expect similar responses to mine.

>> No.77535201

>>77535120
How come they lost to option of either a zzap gun or lobba instead of the Kannon?

>> No.77535212

>>77535130
It looks pretty good going by its stats. Especially considering you can get it to BS 4 if you are within 24 range.

I would take it over a Stompa, obviously.

>>77535140
Lootas are pretty good in large numbers. Not great, but probably the best long range unit we have other than the bafflingly cheap Mek Gunz.

>> No.77535215

>>77533748
Neither. Black Library's favorite slogan of "everything is canon, not everything is true" is just a lazy cop-out. They claim their books have "unreliable narrators" because they cannot be bothered to establish a singular continuity. The narrators are reliable, but, mysteriously, only until another book comes out that contradicts existing events in some way.

>> No.77535220

Why does mephiston wear a skirt?

>> No.77535221

Rolled 20 (1d20)

>>77534943
Rollerino

>> No.77535256

Big Mek with Force field remodel soon?

>> No.77535259

>>77535181
Yea but on paper, it looks pretty alright dosen't it?

>> No.77535263

>>77535201
I'd hazard a guess and say it is purely to reduce book entries as no one was fielding them anyway.

>> No.77535271

>>77535256
Isn't this model brand new? Either way, it still looks great.

>> No.77535286

So correct me if this is wrong, but the Dark Angels release was in fact:
>An extremely shitty, unfluffy and awful-value primaris-only combat patrol featuring no bikes, terminators or DA unique units
>A downgrading from codex to codex supplement, and
>No new models whatsoever

Just squat us and end the suffering, its all been downhill since they took the porta-rack away.

>> No.77535300

>>77535263
That's a shame. I kind of love them conceptually.

>> No.77535305

>>77535220
Who's going to tell him not to?

>> No.77535306

>>77535133
Is there a rule that would prevent me from using springs to prop up the model? So it bobbles back and forth

>> No.77535313

>>77535300
Buy one then and field it

>> No.77535314

>>77535286

>> No.77535319

>>77535286
>"Oh no, our minor subfaction has been downgraded to a mere supplement! The INDIGINITY!"
You kids don't even know how you good have it.

>> No.77535329

>>77535256
Be glad he got an official data sheet.

>> No.77535332

>>77535256
when every other army gets out of shitcast hell. Thats one of the most easy ork kitbashes you can do next to a weird boy.

>> No.77535337

>>77535286
Eat shit and die, there is no one who deserves to get ignored more than marine subarmies.

>> No.77535339

Emperor's Children Chosen with storm shield and power sword

>> No.77535341

>>77535313
Eh. Maybe if they had better rules. If I was going to buy one just to have one, I would go for a Gargantuan.

At the moment, they don't compete with battlewagons. Who are already pretty mweh.

>> No.77535342

>>77534943
rolling

>> No.77535357

>>77534045
That depends heavily on what armies are involved Anon. For example:
>Tyranids, Dark Eldar, and Admech
An escaped biologis experimental soldier with enhanced physical capacities that’s been driven max by it’s heightened sense of pain
>Orks, Guard, GSC
A massive weapons cache (or the entrance of said cache) that could decide the upcoming war before it even begins
>Inquisition, Harlequins, Tau, and Chaos space marines
The stasis tube containing an Etheral turned daemonhost
What are you thinking?

>> No.77535372

>>77535259
Doesn’t look half bad at all

>> No.77535380

What should I add to my ork force next to bring it up to 750?
I have
1 weirdboy
30 boys
10 grots
1 deff dread
I think I want something other than infantry. Maybe a buggy or mek guns?

>> No.77535381

>>77533431
why do you dumb niggers keep fucking up the thread title

>> No.77535392

>>77535263
Lame. I guess my orks are going to be legends based then whenever I actually fucking manage to get to them

>> No.77535394

>>77535259
I would say so. Far as anti horde units go, it's probably the best you have.

>> No.77535414

>>77535306
Nope, have fun anon
>>77535380
How many points do you have left to play with?

>> No.77535415

>>77535380
Buggy and Mek guns are really good units. But you might want to consider a HQ like a warboss or a Elite like a Nob with banner.

>> No.77535458

>>77535394
You can replace the giga shoota with this big boy too, but it's 50 points.

>> No.77535460

>faggot on reddit with marine flair
>says thousand sons having 5 unique units is fine
>unironically thinks they should never get new models because they aren't "necessary"
>double digit primaris releases are essential though?
>call him cancer and i get banned
why are redditors like this, no coincidence they're all marinefags

>> No.77535473

>>77535460
i don't know, but you should go back there and stay there

>> No.77535478

>>77534943
rolling for alpha

>> No.77535491

>>77535473
find a cliff and throw yourself off it
in minecraft

>> No.77535505

>>77535491
very interesting, but you need to go back.

>> No.77535513

>>77535339
>we want the deldar audience

>> No.77535514

>>77534943
> spamming

>> No.77535516

>>77535414
This is very nearly 500 already, so I have about 250.

>>77535415
Warboss and a couple big meks are on the to do list for sure, but I was gonna wait till my 750->1000 expansion where I upgrade from a patrol to a battalion and paint another boys mob. Which buggies are best? I've heard most people say it's the shokk attack gun one and it looks really solid as an option for taking out hard targets. I've got one of those GSC buggies I want to convert for it.

>> No.77535523

ITS BIGGER
ITS BADDER

>> No.77535532

>>77535478
We all are anon.

>>77534943
I have made some quick adjustments to the table to allow anons to get RG GF. I know she can seem pretty boring but she has a pretty decent power (not as good as the AL triplets but worth getting dubs for)

>> No.77535534

>>77535505
no u
i was here first, plus im banned you illiterate goblin

>> No.77535548

>> No.77535549

>>77535514
>adding nothing of value to thread, not even spam or memes

>> No.77535553

>>77535534
anon, you'll be happier among your own kind. We should all stick to our own, and your own is back there.

>> No.77535581

>>77535548
ok

>> No.77535586

since eldar have been left to rot these connotations dont work anymore

>> No.77535605

>>77535532
Rolling to get an 11 to choose wolfie and raven, who will then capture the triplets who will then imitate thousand daughter, angry, and stuck up.

>> No.77535619

>>77535605
enjoy your aids anon
also
>>77535532
rerolling from first post

>> No.77535647

thoughts on increasing space marines size with primaris but then also making everything else bigger before and after that?

>> No.77535678

>>77535532
I just hope you know on X+Y-1, the average result is 10. It's now an equal distribution, also that means 11 is significantly easier to get then 2.

>> No.77535679

>>77535647
>orks are manlets
Why live

>> No.77535688

>>77535523
It’s the best looking imperial vehicle

>> No.77535691

>>77535647
The point of primaris is to milk marine paypigs, not to make marines true scale.

>> No.77535708

>>77535678
it's not*

>> No.77535714

>>77535647
I eagerly await Thadius Guardman

>> No.77535722

>>77533973
>you now remember how they completely invalidated the wartrike by giving the warbike the fast attack aura
thanks GW

>> No.77535737

>>77534468
so this image is what?

>> No.77535744

Guys stop measuring everything.

>>77535532

>> No.77535751

How's the Avenger Strike Fighter? Half-tempted to get it because I think it looks neat

>> No.77535753

>>77535532
here goes nothing

On a side note, wanting to do some eldar as a 1k side project. Thinking 2 wave serpents, 2 dire avenger squads, 1 farseer. Trying to make it a fluffy recon party, the kind of thing you see when playing dawn of war on the PC. What might be a good addition to pad it out to 1k? Some jetbikes and vipers for the fast hitting theme?

Also wondering how you might go about making this colour scheme. What blues / purples / whites should I try? Thanks

>> No.77535767

>>77535647
I called you out last night anon, and you still post this retarded shit.
>The Banshee is wearing a head-dress, don't measure the top of it as the top of the head.
>For accuracy, use eyelines.
See picrel
>Banshee is leaping, and body is upright, so height is accurate
>Marine is in prone position, so true height is taller

If we assume the SM is 7.5' at the eyeline, that makes the Banshee 6'1 at the eyeline, which is about right for both, this would make the Banshee around 6'5 and the SM around 8' if both stood back to back.

>> No.77535774

>>77535744
this was almost a year ago

>> No.77535776

>>77535751
Most FW are terribad, so order whatever you want from recasters.

>> No.77535784

>>77535339
>chaos
>storm shields

>> No.77535792

>>77535753
here goes nothing
reddit.
Jet bikes are the worst part of eldar aesthetics, I suggest going for striking scorpions or warp spiders, scorps are masters of conealment and could scout ahead, spiders can teleport into badlands and port back out when done.

>> No.77535793

>>77535678
2 is more powerful than 11 though, so makes sense

>> No.77535797

>>77535722
Wartrike should not be a HQ unit until it has access to Warboss keyword. It's a fucking trash unit

>> No.77535798

>>77535286
Porta-rack?

>> No.77535799

>>77535784
shut up

>> No.77535803

>>77535767
Go ahead, keep screaming "shut the fuck up at me". It only makes my opinions Worse.

>> No.77535813

>>77535793
so why is 10 the weakest?

>> No.77535815

>>77535339
Damn those are some corn fed kabalites.

>> No.77535817

>>77535767
No it isnt about right for both. Eldar are on average 6ft9.
A 6ft 1 banshee is like a midget.
Average marine height is 7.5 mean.
Anyway you ignore that the left banshee is bigger in ever single way, not just height

>> No.77535818

>>77535776
Would if I had any in at all

>> No.77535819

Post your Ghazghkull models I need paint inspiration

>> No.77535827

>>77535803
If you haven't clocked that the manlet line is being squatted then you are too slow to have a meaningful conversation with.

>> No.77535829 [SPOILER] 

>>77535819

>> No.77535835

>>77535797
my thanks was completely sincere, I hated the fucking wartrike

>> No.77535838

>>77535803
atleast there was a time we thought manlets were getting deleted, so we would have primaris as the scale setter...

>> No.77535839

>>77535286
You obviously do not actually play DA, because real DA players are stoked they got access to the whole marine line.

>> No.77535842

Alright hear me out.

GW buys 4 or 5 painting studios. From now on on the website when you buy a box of minis you have the option to buy like you currently do or you select a scheme (must be simple, you can only choose existing schemes no custom orders) and base colour and in that case it will take 1 month and cost 4x the MSRP.

They would for sure make more money.

>> No.77535857

>>77535792

oh warp spiders would be cool. They don't get nearly enough love

>> No.77535858

>>77535835
Based. Nothing is more disgusting than the trend of making character rides an integral part of the unit. Let me choose my HQ's wargear you FUCKS.

>> No.77535864

>>77535516
I’d suggest a waagh banner nob and a squigbuggy

>> No.77535865

>>77535842
It would be weird to play with models someone else painted

>> No.77535871

>>77535842
No please no. The paintlets must be forced to paint or leave the hobby.

>> No.77535880

>>77535342
Good roll

>> No.77535883

>>77535751
Rad as shit and moderately scary

>> No.77535888

>>77535865
>>77535871
That's not the point.

We're here to make money.

>> No.77535894

>>77535767
Canonically a marine and an eldar have a roughly equally average height.

>> No.77535895

>>77535880
weird looking tau

>> No.77535901

>>77535894
Sorry, no.

>> No.77535906

>>77535864
I heard squigg buggies were bottom of the barrel last time I was thinking about getting back into 40k. Did that change?

And a waagh banners sounds like fun, I do like painting banners. Maybe a buggie, traktor kannon, and a banner?

>> No.77535913

>>77535880
Reminder that they’re a worse fast attack army than DA

>> No.77535915

>>77535894
marines tend to be about 4 inches taller, but it isnt uncommon to have a marine the same height as an eldar, or have one a ft taller.
THIS IS WHY GUARDIANS AND ALL ASSPECTS NEED NEW MINIS, THEY ARE SMALLER THAN 6FT HUMANS IN MINI FORM

>> No.77535920

>>77535813
It isn't. Everything between 1-18 is between 0.02-0.1, and none of them give you anything.

If you want even distribution just roll a d20.

>> No.77535929

>>77535901
Orks are 5'6 kek

>> No.77535931

>>77535901
>uses height maxxed marine for his fanboy graph
sorry anon, average marine is 7-8 ft, mean of 7.5.
Quite often an Eldar will match one in height.

>> No.77535935

>>77535913
Also reminder that Custodes are more expensive *and* weaker than Deathwing Termies

>> No.77535943

>>77535935
As it should be.
Friendly reminder that the first thing each traitor legion did was massacre their custodes minders.

>> No.77535947

>>77535913
>make a chapter's gimmick their fast vehicles
>also randomly give it to another chapter who already has a termie gimmick
>then also make it so wolves can do it too with candoo

>> No.77535951

>>77535803
God, Gal Vorbak are so fucking cool, can't wait for mine to arrive.

>> No.77535958

>>77535817
Did I say 6'1 you fuckwit?

I clearly stated that she is likely to be 6'5 with a 6'1 eyeline. Where 6'5-7' is the canon average height of Eldar, and if we assume they are sexually dimorphic, her height is in scale.

>> No.77535959

>>77535901
That chart is bullshit and you know it anon.
>>77535906
Squigbuggies are meant to be the “versatile” option, they give you a ton of options but they get outclassed by other more specialized units most of the time. I suggest one because I think they’re fun and that versatility isn’t anything to scoff at (especially with nitro-powered Squigs).
>Maybe a buggie, traktor kannon, and a banner?
Sounds perfect anon, but be forewarned that banners are pricier than you’d expect

>> No.77535967

>>77535935
Is there anything excluding lord of wars that beat deathwing knights?
Not even deathshourd can unless you want to dump auras and cp into them

>> No.77535975

>>77535958
but she is jumping so her eye line is wrong :D

>> No.77535977

>>77535967
Guess we'll have to see what can beat the VERY balanced DA Termies once more codexes drop

>> No.77535978

>>77534943
ok

>> No.77535980

>>77535901
based chart

>> No.77535988

if the chainsword is such a reliable melee weapon why not give this to all marines?
humans figured it out soon after inventing the musket.

>> No.77535992

>>77535951
basedo, about to order 10 myself

>> No.77535997

>>77535988
it's uh
too expensive

>> No.77536000

>>77535975
her foot is flat...

>> No.77536004

>>77535958
Eldar are around 7ft anon, this is the facts.

>> No.77536008

>>77535997
bullshit. there are so few marines

>> No.77536011

>>77534943
Again

>> No.77536017

>>77535988
Chainswords are heavy as fuck.

>> No.77536022

>>77535988
There already are chainsword bayonets you absolute lorelet

>> No.77536024

>>77535647
Model size consistency was pretty much only a thing when the main sculptors were Jes Goodwin and the Perry twins.

>> No.77536025

>>77535988
chaos terminators used to have them
would make less since for non-terminators since the vibration from the chainblade (even when idle) would fuck with aiming

>> No.77536031

>>77536017
fuck off dude, if a Marine can carry this he most certainly can carry that

>> No.77536037

>>77536000
why the fuck are you talking about the old one and not the new one, which is the one fucking up the scale, yesterday I even agreed the old mini is in better scale with the primaris.
Excpet when that banshee was used primaris werent a thing and was out of scale!

>> No.77536043

>>77536022
and yet tacticals and intercessors don't use them? that's my fucking point

>> No.77536065

>>77536043
Piss poor fuel/energy storage

>> No.77536068

>>77536043
>>77536025

>> No.77536078

>>77536004
Just saying something is a fact doesn't make it a fact anon.
The canon is that they are 6-7', in the same way that humans are typically between 5'5-6'5, but I am sure there are outliers in Eldar too.

>> No.77536088

Had a game today. Decided to try out playing a list with basically one of every (non LoW) daemon engine. Went IW with a single Lord Disco HQ with Daemonsmith and 3xCSM for troops. Told my friend that was my list and told him to make sure he has lots of anti tank... He shows up with a list of Grey Knights specialized in anti daemon (with the 4MW smite)... It was a bloodbath. My defiler wiped his whole army single handedly lol.
It was hilarious watching him fail smite every turn and if anything did get through it was absorbed by Iron Within Iron Without. The defiler also ate daemonforge twice every turn just crushing everything. The funniest part was when he charged the defiler with a unit of paladins, and I overwatch, get 3 6s with the battle cannon, which turns into 6 hits and wipes his paladins. His dreadknight as a last ditch attempt barely manages to get 2 damage through but then gets roflstopmed by the defiler. The rest of my army was basically just desperately trying to catch up and keep the defiler in the Disco Lords aura range as the defiler just zoomed across the map rolling 12s to charge.
The bloodslaughterer tried to kill a single marine at one point, but failed and that marine then ran away via moral check.
Oh, and the anal turkey got slapped out of the air by some servitors, whatever.
The decimator also had a great time. I accidentally deployed him in the corner behind a building which he couldn't move out of, so he just kinda stood there.

>> No.77536090

sexy smooth miniatures sculpted to be nice to paint and look good > crazy 100 bits of detail, 1mm details and shit clutter

>> No.77536117

>>77536090
Specially with horde armies like GSC
Why the fuck does the random fucker has as much detail as an HQ or Elite

>> No.77536132

>>77536088
I'm thinking of getting some engines to go with my single disco. What are the top 3 you would recommend?

>> No.77536135

>>77536117
Because GSC belong in necromunda/kill team where everyone is an individual.

>> No.77536141

>>77536031
His poor left wrist

>> No.77536156

>>77536090
sure the new is "better" sculpted.
The old one just screams GASMASK, TOXIC, WW2 TRENCH
new one is gonna take ages to fucking paint and look busy as shit when its a metre from you

>> No.77536166

>>77533855
Lore this lore that, just fuck off already.
>Did you enjoy making it?
Yes
>Did you enjoy painting it?
yes
>Does it look cool?
Yes
Then who the fuck cares? Like it just fucking miniatures on a table that look pretty. And honestly, the fact that these comments are from Reddit makes it even more retarted.

>> No.77536172

>>77535988
did you miss 1988 or what

>> No.77536189

>>77536172
that's goofy as hell

>> No.77536204

>>77533855
Helliarch the real OG

>> No.77536214

>>77536078
If we're talking about outliers I can mention at least one.

Eldrad Ulthrans canonically freakishly huge by eldar standards, a fact only exacerbated by his ridiculous helmet.

They make a point of it in the Ynnari books.

>> No.77536217

>>77536135
Working with necromunda models. They do not have this much autistic detail on the default model. You can add more bits though but those are not moulded into the model like GSC.

>> No.77536231

>>77533927
>Retards need to stop with those female SW
You people keep giving them the reaction they're looking for in fairness

>> No.77536253

>>77536214
say what you want about his breast horns but those would be super handy to watch movies on your laptop during a long trip

>> No.77536263

>tfw politcal mongs have ruined DKoK forever.

it's a shame since I really liked the WW1 feel of Vraks. It reminded me of this 90s WW1 documentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NDApxcMdHg

Can they be salvaged and brought back to just being about WW1 trench warfare?

>> No.77536286

>>77536132
-Defiler
-Defiler
-Defiler
Apart from that the Maulerfiend's are great and can keep up with disco lord (the Defiler's greatest weakness is 8'' move).
Decimators are basically daemon engine contemptor dreadnoughts, but they have the awkward 9'' move.
Blood slaughterer's are a really good melee unit that can make large charges easily with the harpoon, but you really want to get a way to get them to be able to advance and charge (and if you aren't using specialist detachments, which are sort of illegal now, it can be tricky).
Gameplay wise you probably want to avoid the heldrake. It's really horrible. It's fast, but so, so bad (the speed is actually a negative here, as it runs out of disco lords aura).
The Venomcrawler is fine i guess. It's not that interesting.
The defiler is just really really good. It has a shit ton of weapons so it benefits from daemonforge a lot, and you can build it however you want. Anti tank, anti infantry, range, melee, mix, whatever. I usually go for twin heavy bolter, twin heavy flamer, combi melta, but the scourge is probably better.
The defiler really came a long way from 5+ to hit to 3+ and being able to shoot in melee. And the DG codex shows they'll be going to 3+ basic BS (so 2+ with disco) while only going up 10pts.

>> No.77536302

>>77534103
>>77534104
>>77534110
>>77534155
>>77534174
>>77535357
Thanks guys. The armies in question are:
>Craftworlds
>Space Wolves
>Ultramarines
>Necrons
>Heavily-Inquisition laden Imperial Guard
I'm leaning towards some ancient weapon from the War in the Heavens that's recently resurfaced on the planet. Maybe it's rigged to fire no matter what, and we're all scrambling to decide what to point it at. Reckon an altered version of The Four Pillars scenario would work?

>> No.77536304

>>77536286
he's so goddamn ugly though. I hate the model.

>> No.77536306

>>77535744
This is legit some tinfoil hat levels of insane conspiracy theories

>> No.77536310

>>77536263
They've literally never been anything but ww1 Germans, and the people that see them as any sort of political statement are autistic retards (like you apparently) looking for something to be mad about.

>> No.77536329

>>77533855
Why do they need to be so defensive? He could have easily been like 'Haha thanks man yeah its a bit silly but it was a fun concept for me' or something.

>> No.77536332

>>77536263
>Can they be salvaged and brought back to just being about WW1 trench warfare?
Of course. Not so far as to change what the online """"community"""" does with them, but online 40k discussion is horrible and should be ignored at every opportunity.

>> No.77536333

>>77536310
>germans
>clearly look like French
Is this some kind of gringo joke?

>> No.77536363

>>77536304

>> No.77536369

>>77536333
>germans wearing French coats
>literally everything else is german, even their name is fucking german
>muh frogs tho

>> No.77536380

How viable are 'mixed' infantry squads? As in, I don't like having infantry squads with ten lasguns, so I'll shove in a heavy weapon and a special weapon just for a bit of actual killing power.

>> No.77536401

>>77536380
viable here depends on how competitive your meta is.

>> No.77536418

>>77536310

>make a post lamenting them being misinterpreted as being other than WW1
>ask how to bring them back to to their original WW1 theme (i.e how to fix their public image)
>you somehow assume I am one of the retards that think they are space nazis

>> No.77536422

Im an orkchad considering getting into chaos daemons. Can I build an army of like 10 big dudes? Im wanting a non horde army and the daemon models look great.

>> No.77536427

This unit is a big fat mess
>full of bits that seem like they would be wargear but aren't
>all weapons are D1
>some of the example models are built illegally

>> No.77536432

>>77536380
Its all about the actual purpose of your squads and if they will ever actually get to shoot their stronger weapons. Having a few heavy weapon teams in your squads isnt the worst decision if youre going to outrange your opponent and they will sit on the backline, having grenade launchers or plasma isnt bad if they survive long enough to use them. The biggest problem, especially with Guard, is that the infantry gets fucking OBLITERATED by the current meta. Taking plasma or heavy weapons on infantry that is there solely to act as chaff and fucking die is just wasted points.

>> No.77536443

>>77536369
>literally everything else is german
there's elements of all the western powers in there, both in design and mentality

dogmatically they're pretty bri'ish (most guard armies have that running through them, being written by the bongs) but I guess the word "Krieg" overrides all that

>> No.77536453

>>77536422
yes but only if you think that it's okay to use detachments without troops

>> No.77536457

Whoever makes the next thread between not be a fucking retard and actually put a name.

>> No.77536473

>>77536443
>the word "Krieg" overrides all that
If you'd actually read their fluff you'd know all of their names and words are (pseudo)German

>> No.77536491

>>77536422
>>77536422

Depends what you categorise as 'big dudes'.

If you want moderate sized dudes, your best bet would be Slannesh, since they keeper of secrets and those tongue-butt-hole horses. Khorne has a few big things like bloodthirsters and that tank thingy. Nurgle has great unclean ones and beasts of nurgle. Tzeench only has the big bird thing.

>> No.77536512

>>77536491
>Tzeench only has the big bird thing.
What? Tzeentch has
>Burning Chariot
>Herald on Chariot
>Screamers
>Exalted Flamer on foot
>Flamers

>> No.77536524

>>77536214
Did they write that in to explain why his 7e model is absolutely fuckhueg? I don't recall his height ever being commented on in the Jain Zar books for example

>> No.77536546

>>77536156
This has been my major gripe with nu-death guard. I don't really mind the aesthetic changes and all the mutations and shit but holy fuck they jam these basic troops with so much detail I feel like I'm spending the same amount of time painting each marine that I'd be spending on an HQ or character.

>> No.77536551

>>77536008
yeah but the DA are seen as exceptional for having many plasma guns, even though they're common enough that the fucking guard gets them

>> No.77536556

>>77536491
can you run the models as all the different chaos gods? or do I need to pick one god and stick with it. I do not know anything how they play

>> No.77536565

Dumb question but does this stack with the Coldstar or is it completely pointless?

>> No.77536566

>>77536214
I hate how almost all nuart is full of specific models only.

>> No.77536580

>>77536156
The leftmost marine here just looks like an unfinished sculpt. Bizarre.

>> No.77536581

>>77535098
They don't have any priority.

>> No.77536599

>>77536566
You are complaining about something that's already been done away

>> No.77536602

>>77535130
Still doesn't seem worth the tax.

>> No.77536623

>>77536599
No, retard, kill yourself.

>> No.77536626

>>77536565
They both say "instead of rolling a dice[sic]" so I'd guess that they don't stack

>> No.77536637

>>77536457
Autism edition please

>> No.77536640

>>77536623
please point me to these models

>> No.77536663

>>77536623
Imagine being THIS mad and THIS wrong

>> No.77536691

Rate my dark angels successor chapter :)

>> No.77536711

>>77536556

Armies are ran in 'detachments'. These detachments usually have a precet. If you want to bring different chaos stuff, you'll have to take them in seperate detachments

>> No.77536739

>>77536691
Gay colors are old hat, real bait is tranny colors.

>> No.77536773

>>77536663
>>77536640
>Finally letting the 2 good artists still on staff after 5 years of putting out nothing
>the rest of the nuart is still trash

>> No.77536827

>>77536691

probably the only good use for that free reiver model. The children's "my first watercolour painting palette" is a nice touch too

>> No.77536832

>>77536773
I honestly can't think of any bad, mainline 40k art that came out after 9th dropped besides the core rulebook

>> No.77536856

>>77536691
epic for the win anon! trigger those chuds

>> No.77536906

>>77536856
>epic for the win
No one talks like this anymore

>> No.77536941

>>77534943
Rolling

>> No.77536962

>>77536906
Facepalm

>> No.77536977

>>77536906
Fail dude

>> No.77537000

>>77536906

>> No.77537005

>>77536832
All the stuff from 9th so far has been really great, but we'll have to wait to see if it'll stick. Ever since the time AoS dropped or so warhammer art has been in a dire fucking state, with only a portion of Tze's and Dainton's work having any worth. I'm pretty sure this new stuff is all Tze's and Dainton's too, and they're the ones who were doing good work anyway during the shit period.

>> No.77537025

>>77534943
Rolling!

>> No.77537032

I'm genuinely thinking about getting some gsc. It'll mostly be a lot of Genestealers and maybe one or two brood brothers/cultist squads. Is this going to be a waste of time or kinda usable?


I just really like genestealers all of a sudden for some reason.

>> No.77537048

>>77535532
Let's go, Blood Angels get

>> No.77537060

>>77536640
How acceptable would a completely off the wall made up group of xenos mercenaries be as counts as flashgits in an orc army?

>> No.77537071

>>77537005
The only thing I don't like about this development is that it makes "weird thing in the background of an art piece" no longer a guaranteed hint at a new model

>> No.77537079

>>77537032
The majority of your time with the army will be spent modeling and painting, and this edition will only last a couple years, while your army will last as long as you're in the hobby. A low win rate now shouldn't dissuade you from following ur dreams

>> No.77537096

>>77537048
Nice. Blood Angels and Dark Angels it is.

>> No.77537129

>>77537071
the main thing I don't like is the soft, unfocused "underpaid digital artist" look that even the good pieces have

>> No.77537145

>>77537079
Well I know that, I just want to know how badly "a metric shitload of Genestealers running across the table and soaking up casualties until they overwhelm the other guy" is going to be. Doesn't mean I won't do it anyways.

>> No.77537162

>>77537129
The foggy loose backdrops are mostly dainton's stuff, and I think it's great. Pic related is also him, he's the only great artist from the glory days of gw still working there. Adrian smith, kopinski, they're all gone.

>> No.77537171

>>77537145
anyone here pick up sigmar recently?

>> No.77537210

>>77537071
I am still confident that this thing is SOMETHING

>> No.77537215

>>77537210
Inspiration for you to start converting :)

>> No.77537232

>>77537215
I can't even make out what exactly it is
>>77537171
I almost bought a SC! Beasts of Chaos box, but got distracted by the LGS still having a CSM battleforce and got that instead

>> No.77537251

>>77537162
Not him but I think what anon meant was how clearly rushed the newer stuff looks. I imagine in the older days guys like Dainton were given a week or more per piece to get it done, but now they're forced to put out something a lot more sketchy and less refined in order to meet deadlines. I agree the art is improving however. 7th and 8th was an awful period

>> No.77537276

>>77537232
Beastmen interest me, even fantasy era ones.
I hear some people dont like the sculpts but I love them honestly, going to buy some soon.

>> No.77537277

>>77537162
sure, but compare that with >>77537005
there's a clear gap in quality, despite the design being equally good and being from the same guy

>> No.77537289

>>77537032
>It'll mostly be a lot of Genestealers
tyranids run it better, thanks to the way kraken buffs them

which is a shame because I really like the way blips function

>> No.77537294

>>77537276
don't do it bro
it's just a road to being ignored forever because turns out people will only play animal people if they get to make meme-memes constantly

>> No.77537304

>>77537251
I really don't mind it for mood environmental pieces. It's the really bright clean plasticy style that bothers me.

>> No.77537319

>>77535803
Yo what the fuck is in the bottom left

>> No.77537329

>>77537319
the truth, brother

>> No.77537330

>>77537276
The Gor kits aged extremely well
It's mostly the minotaurs that are ass

>> No.77537349

>>77537329
If it's Chaos i def need it. Is it Forge world?

>> No.77537351

>>77537277
There's a clear gap in degree or rendering, but not in quality. And the city scapes are just speed paints.

Over all you're right they're not giving the good artists time to do full pieces anymore. The stuff I like the most these days are the little page fillers like this or >>77536640
this.

>> No.77537354

>>77537349
gal vorbak on forgeworld
see also the mhara gal

>> No.77537359

>>77537349
yeah, it's a HH unit
gal vorbak

>> No.77537363

>>77537354
>>77537359
Hell yeah. DttFE my brothers

>> No.77537370

>>77537349
It's the protaganist possesed from the first heretic book. One of the only good HH books too.

>>77537276
Gors are still a+. I love converting them for my fantasy army. Minos are ass. Get zealot miniatures minos instead.

>> No.77537372

>>77537329
Chaos dudes always have tubes in their heads, but what's in the tubes?

>> No.77537379

>>77537372
chaos juice

>> No.77537391

>>77537372
everyone has tubes in their heads

>> No.77537478

>>77537372
Drugs, bile, psyker juice, nutrient paste directly to the brain, filtration to sterilize their open head wounds, demon cum.

>> No.77537489

NEW
>>77537485
>>77537485
>>77537485

>> No.77537537

>>77536380
heavy weapons are generally a no - they lose to Heavy teams and get the -1 if you move.
Specials are alright if you go for plasma/melta, as both have gotten cheaper Comparatively to last edition. I'd recommend plasma - same range and type as lasguns, good synergy.

>> No.77537687

>>77537294
I dont understand what you mean at all anon lol

>> No.77537695

>>77537370
minos being the ones at the bottom? thats a shame they look insanely cool in that pic

>> No.77537725

>>77533828
sauce

>> No.77538088

>>77534943
ROLL

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