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How would a group of Astartes fare in the Monster Hunter world?

>> No.74962979

>>74962815
Honestly, fairly well. They absolutely have the reflexes and speed to deal with the monsters. The issue is that they are so alien, and so potentially destructive that the world would kick in high gear responses. Things like White Fatalis still stand a chance, even against super-tech.

>> No.74963000

Aren't monster hunters themselves already superbly super human to begin with? That world would be protected to hell and back because of the sheer hardy stock of human beings on the planet.

>> No.74963305

>>74963000
Hunters are absurdly superhuman yes. They may as well be demigods.

>> No.74963668

>>74962979
They better have a fucking license or approval form the guild if they start hunting any major monsters.

>> No.74963692

>>74962979
>The issue is that they are so alien, and so potentially destructive that the world would kick in high gear responses.
This. Monster Hunter's thing about nature is that you do NOT fuck with it. It turns a Death World quickly if you don't know what the fuck you're doing.

>> No.74963711

>>74962815
Quite well obviously. As >>74963000 pointed out, the world would be considered valuable for recruitment.

>> No.74963768

Pretty damn good. As I recall from the Fantasy Flight Deathwatch books the Deathwatch train on big alien game.

>> No.74965792

>>74963692
Pretty much. Don't mess with anything lest you awaken a slumbering Elder Dragon and fuck everything up.

>> No.74966571

>>74962979
>They absolutely have the reflexes and speed to deal with the monsters.
HAHAHAHAHA no. A naked hunter could suplex a fully kitted space marine before trapping him in a hole and throwing shit bombs at him until he cries. A space marine would be your jaggi hunting newbie who still fucks up his i-frames and a single hit from even just mid-range monsters like brachy or uragaan would end one.

>> No.74966677

>>74962815

On a fiction level, Astartes recruit from plenty of death worlds where even the plants try to eat you and guys have to slay fucking dragons with bits of stick and stone. They pull regular humans from this situation and then make them so superhuman that the greatest efforts of their past lives become trivial.

In Monster Hunter there are human cities, the plants stand meekly aside as you run through the woods picking mushrooms, the insects are just materials to be harvested and the big monsters just sort of wander round being majestic until Big Dick Hunter comes to kill them. He then goes home to a peaceful village, a nice big double bed, an established item farm and a mountain of pre-prepared food that he can afford without even thinking about it.

Yes, there are legends of Fatalis and other legendary dragons attacking and destroying cities. No, not once do you ever actually see it happen; they are deflected after a long repetitive fight walking down a canyon IT WASN'T EVEN COOL PAST THE SECOND FIGHT WITH LAO SHAN LUNG CAPCOM STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

In short, Astartes would have zero difficulty in Monster Hunter.

>> No.74966851

>>74966571
This fucking guy, what a hoot

>> No.74966899

>>74966677
>Yes, there are legends of Fatalis and other legendary dragons attacking and destroying cities. No, not once do you ever actually see it happen; they are deflected after a long repetitive fight walking down a canyon IT WASN'T EVEN COOL PAST THE SECOND FIGHT WITH LAO SHAN LUNG CAPCOM STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
You never see it happen because there's no way to depict that in the engine that the games use. And there's little point anyway, because what does it prove? You're still going to kill them.

Using your own logic, they immediately encounter the White Fang Nargacuga from Frontier and die to something so fast its afterimages have afterimages have afterimages. Or they awaken a Dalamadur and get a chunk of star dropped on them.

>> No.74966924

>>74966571
This. No space marine is any match for your average hunter. Your typical hunter can throw down with mountain-sized beings that can fire nuclear laserblasts in their undies if they cared to. In general, Hunters fight worse shit than anything msot groundforces in 40k deal with.

And this is the mainline games.

>> No.74966925

>>74966571
Bing Bing

>> No.74967211

>>74962815
Depends on the chapter and specifics, just a couple of average tac marines from an average chapter? Slaughtered by monsters that make any death world in the galaxy look like central park

Monster hunter powerlevels and lore is actually nutty once you look into it, think pokemon meets dark souls.

>> No.74967227

>>74966677
>In Monster Hunter there are human cities
Because of hunters.
The hunters guild is the thing standing between humanity and extinction by dragon.

>> No.74967232

>>74966899
>White Fang Nargacuga from Frontier
Why not apex fatalis? Literally just "I have removed you from the quest, no you dont respawn" tier

>> No.74967270

Honestly? That would kinda be a cool crossover. I mean shit given the crossover events they've already done it wouldn't even be that weird lore-wise.

>> No.74967286

>>74967270
>That would kinda be a cool crossover.
Nah, space marines arent that interesting.

You would need a crossover monster and then some unique hunter stuff, so probably either a chaos or nid monsters and then a bunch of shit for people to make by grinding it.

>> No.74967317

>>74966924
You severly overestimating your average hunters, player hunters are something like novel main character captian (if not greater) marines, while your average npc hunter, who we can asume are the bulk, shits his pants in sight of a Rathian.

>> No.74967344

>>74967317
Theres lots of all sorts of hunter, but consider for example that the sort of hunter who kills Fatalis (the big nigger apex of power in MH alongside the other black dragons) are common enough for the symptoms of wearing fatalis armor to be known

Basically, yes, most NPC's are shit, but the online gathering hub full of max HR speedrunners is as canon as your character.

>> No.74967354

>>74962815
There's a mission like this in Deathwatch. In order to even things up, the Space Marines don't get to use their power armor while hunting.
Basically, the MHW is a good example of a Astartes recruiting world.

>> No.74967404

>>74967354
I suspect youre underestimating the stats on MH monsters.

>> No.74968581

>>74962815
I would say MH monsters and hunters both are a bit over the standards of space marines, but not by such a huge degree they couldn't survive and even thrive. They just won't be fighting elder dragons consistently like player characters would, but they can totally hang out with the mediocre hunters.

>> No.74971411

>>74967227

Exactly the same situation on every single deathworld that is a) more dangerous than MonHun and b) doesn't have superhuman hunters yet still has humanity surviving.

>> No.74971580

>>74967404
>Deathworld
Has some beeg bears, probably tyranids anyway.
>MH world
Lower foodchain stuff smashes boulders with ease. Also things like that steel sword lizard and lavasioht exist

I think people severely overestimate what it takes to kill a normal human settlement.

>> No.74971610

>how would x fare in y
>immediately devolves into "no I'm Dirty Dan"
Can't we ever have a thread where we argue about a horse that hasn't been beaten to death?

>> No.74971662

>>74971610
No i'm Spartacus!

>> No.74971851

>>74967232
Apex Fatalis is levels of overkill you throw against the Primarchs and the Emperor.

>> No.74972062

>>74967317
The majority of hunters seem to be the sort of badasses who kill Elders enough that their general abilities and effects both normally and in-armor form are catalouged.

Sure your average rookie hunter is shit, but they're still a hunter. They're casually running and tossing around weapons bigger than a man is tall.

>> No.74972197

I feel like I should point out that the Hunters are, if I've read into the lore correctly, the remnants of an Ancient Civilization super soldier project. Where most NPC hunters are closer to human baseline, while the main characters of the games are more along the lines of throwbacks to the prime of that old super soldier project before it got diluted into the populace at large.

Realistically, the MH world fits into the 40k universe really well. What's Dragon element? Well, it's defined as "spirit", which suits psykers pretty well. The Ancient Civilization is so long gone that it could absolutely have been most of ten thousand years ago that it disappeared. We've got super soldiers and, if you look in the right places, power armor.

>> No.74972445

>>74972197
Thought dragon literally attacked the mind but either way it fits.

>> No.74972641

>>74971411
>more dangerous than MonHun
Thats literally none of them.

>> No.74972889

According to an over 100 year-old lead scientist, she's not convinced Elder Dragons are even *real* and not some minute eldritch physical manifestation of some greater unimaginable...SOMETHING. Black Dragons standing out as the least natural of all.

https://imgur.com/a/wWyzp5P

So the MH world may or may not be the claimed domain of some Chaos God equivalent.

>> No.74973002

>>74972889
I mean, you have Fatalis be immortal and fly out of black holes and shit, so possibly.

>> No.74973016

>>74971411
Deathworlds have individual monsters that can call down fragments of stars to crash into their enemies?

>> No.74973043

>>74971411
Elder dragons make titants (and the equivalent) look like pussies (shara ishvalda makes the ordinatus look like a joke for example)

>> No.74973053

>>74972889
God why is third fleet master so perfect?

>> No.74973068

>>74962815
wow that Galv is totally off-model

>> No.74973125

>>74962815
They'd be more of a danger to themselves and each other. No monster would kill them, even after their bolters ran dry and their power armor ran out of juice (they don't even attack anyone who doesn't come looking for them,) but socially they're just not adapted to anything other than their very precise chain of command.

>> No.74973180

>>74962815
Monster hunter is just a death world with slightly lower than average gravity. This explains hunters' abilities to lift such disproportionately massive weapons and survive falling from any height. I'd also assume the world's atmosphere contains a higher than average quantity of oxygen given the on average gigantic insects that populate the world, the incredible size of trees and their rapid rate of growth, as well as how easy it is for humans and monsters to start fires.

Given the ubiquity of the Guild, who everyone from local drunks to royalty pay commission to obtain the services of as well as the Guild's reputation of being able to strike down anyone who doesn't follow its many rules, it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine it as the world's contact to the greater Imperium, or at least the main organization that deals with it.

All that being said, Astartes would fare about as well as hunters in this world, being able to tear apart lesser monsters alone and struggling against major threats outside of a group. I believe it's fair to say that high-end bowguns can hit with all the force of a bolter and so would equate a squad of 4 space marines to the power of 4 endgame bowgun users

that is to say, pretty fucking strong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os_jBn0q5-k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r54YeHIy95E

tl;dr- pretty well

>> No.74973195

>>74967286
>>74967270
Space mareens or not a proper shooter (3rd or first person) with a monhun style would be cool.

>> No.74973217

>>74963668
Or else what?

>> No.74973262

>>74973180
I feel like comparing Team Darkside to anything is a bit of a fool's game. Besides, space marines use bolters, not pierce shots or literally dragon element ammo, which in this crossover would be psychic bullets.

>> No.74973267

>>74973180
>slightly lower than average gravity. This explains hunters' abilities to lift such disproportionately massive weapons
Gravity helps you lift heavy things, but once you start swinging that heavy shit, and it starts moving, making it stop is just as hard, regardless of gravity.
Simply being lower gravity wouldn't actually help you swing a greatsword around without being pulled by its mass.

>> No.74973281

>>74973016
Worse. They call in tyranids.

>> No.74973286

>>74973267
Wouldn't that imply that Hunters have higher mass than normal to be able to counterweight their weapons effectively?

>> No.74973316

>>74973286
Maybe?
In fact, just being super strong wouldn't help swing super heavy things around, since you'd end up being swung by it, unless you were anchored.
So yeah, all super-strong creatures in fiction must also have some sort of secondary super power that allows them to increase their mass just enough to prevent them from being swung around by whatever they're grabbing.

>> No.74973330

>>74967227
>people can’t survive without defending themselves
Whoa, that’s deep...

>> No.74973415

>>74973262
There's no reason for this crossover to add magic to monster hunter when it does its best to be a magicless setting. Dragon ammunition is simply derived from dragonfell berries which produce a chemical substance that harm many wyverns and most dragons. Bolters fire high-caliber ammunition that explodes upon or after impact, something that bowguns replicate with crag shot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kP8Gg114SA

>>74973267
There isn't a large weapon you use in monster hunter that doesn't move you with its mass.

>> No.74973440

>>74973415
Elder Dragon powers are quite literally magic though.

>> No.74973443

>>74973415
>it does its best to be a magicless setting.
Uh... you're gonna have to explain what the fuck the Elder Dragons are doing then. Almost all of them have unexplainable powers by science. For example, Kushala Daora controls winds and stirs up hurricanes by focusing particularly hard with its horns.

>> No.74973464

>>74973180
>I believe it's fair to say that high-end bowguns can hit with all the force of a bolter
You either overestimate bolters or underestimate what bowguns are capable of

Heres the barioth lbg "A bowgun with a Barioth's might. This vessel of the snow gods uses icy bullets to summon blizzards."

Heres the azure rathalos one "A bowgun with the burning soul of an Azure Rathalos. Even gods take knee at its fiery might."

Now of course one could argue that theres a level of embellishment to these descriptions, (we dont ever see it summon blizzards in game for example), but to say that the guns that destroy world ending immortal dragons in minutes are comparable to a bolter is absurd. Maybe one of the lower tier iron ones is closer.

>>74973195
Isnt that just forbidden planet 2?

>> No.74973487

>>74973464
>Isnt that just forbidden planet 2?
forbidden planet had too much human vs human fights

>> No.74973520

>>74962815
I'm pretty sure they have a lot of fun.

>> No.74973554

>>74966571
>>74966924
>>74966925
Bruh that's who space marines RECRUIT FROM.

>> No.74973581

>>74973554
Space marines get massacred by genestealers anon, they dont wrestle things that make a carnifex look like a chihuahua to make new pairs of pants

>> No.74973591

>>74962815
Most of them grew up on planets like that. Feral and death worlds are common recruitment areas. Fenris is basically Monster Hunter: Iceborne the planet (with bonus tribal warfare DLC). Missing or presumed dead hunters are probably power-fisting daemons out in space or getting implanted with progenoids in a monastery.

>> No.74973594

>>74973217
You need tacit approval from the guild to hunt. If you hunt without being guild approved, it's poaching and they'll hunt you down and execute you for capital crime.

>> No.74973598

>>74973464
T.he fluff text of weapons seem to be written in-context and shouldn't be taken literally. The weapons and armor literally never perform the feats they claim to and the characters in-setting are ignorant as to how the monsters around them work.

>>74973440
>>74973443
None of it is scientifically accurate because it isn't real, but it does its best to have as much as possible have a reasonable explanation in-context. Teostra, for example, uses its tusks as a flint to set off explosive materials it shakes from its body. This is something you can see it doing, showing that they intend for the abilities of monsters to be explicable phenomena.

Kushala's wind cloak isn't gone into explicitly nor do they depict exactly HOW it works, but I'd imagine the explination would be something along the lines of it somehow manipulating pressure systems with high-frequency vibrations, if the horn thing is to be believed.

>> No.74973640

>>74973598
>T.he fluff text of weapons seem to be written in-context and shouldn't be taken literally
Then what should? The gameplay where hunters are immortal and have big numbers?
The Monster lore where they make pokemon look sane?

Mind you im not against the idea of applying temperance to the purple prose, but there comes a point where you do have to consider whats actually written there.

>>74973594
Isnt the guild also the !totalitarian world government running shade experiments? What with the invisible weapon assassins and all that

>> No.74973642

>>74973591
>>74973554
Not a single natural, non-demonic creature in 40k is as dangerous as the monhun elder dragons. And space marines struggle in group against things that are considerably weaker than elder dragons.

>> No.74973644

>>74973180
If Wyverians are exodites this explains 1E and 2E lore of gigantic eldar the size of god-orkz, and the exodite propensity towards riding giant lizards and dinosaurs into battle.

>> No.74973657

>>74973642
Most demonic things arent as dangerous as monhun elder dragons either to be fair.

>> No.74973688

>>74973598
The majority of Elder Dragons do not have explainable powers. This extends even into World, where it's more magical than anything that isn't Frontier. Yama Tsukami's propulsion method literally isn't known or understand, Kirin can fucking teleport via lightning, Chameleos can move so quickly whilst invisible that it may as well be moving at superspeed, etc. And these are the LOW TIER ones. Once we get into the higher order Elder Dragons with shit like Xeno/Safi'jiva, Zorah Magdoros, Dalamadur, the literally supersonic jet bastard or fucking Black Dragons what little rules these things have go out the window.

And if we factor in Frontier, not only are weapon descriptions made into 100% canon (only explanation for why you're even alive facing the shit you do) but we have Elder Dragons and monsters with abilities that put anything in 40k to shame.

>> No.74973772

>>74973180
I want to run a Deathwatch campaign on "Monhan" (what is the planet called?) now.

"An important death world that multiple space marine chapters draw recruits from, recently the ecosystem has been disrupted by an orkoid "rok" crash-landing on the southern hemisphere. Your kill-team is to deploy via Thunderhawk to the northern hemisphere due to warp perturbations in the atmosphere, and our attempts to maintain secrecy from the locals to maintain their primitive culture and the hardy recruits it produces, you will be deploying without power armor for this reason as well, the Mechanicus have secured a secret LZ for you 32km north by northeast of the port city of Astora, this is where you will travel by foot to meet with your contacts, the leader of the local hunter's guild and the village chieftain. As the locals travel distances such as these suspended from tethers via small wing-drakes; local hunters have been sourced to secure you and your men more... appropriate mounts for the long voyage to ork territory. Again we expect you and your men to maintain the utmost secrecy of the Imperium at large, you will be sourcing weaponry from the locals for this reason as well."

>> No.74973819

>>74973644
Giving eldar digitigrade legs would do a lot towards making me like them

>>74973640
Nothing. It's a videogame. Your suspension of disbelief begins and ends where you put it. I'm just saying that making things in monster hunter suddenly have magical properties where they were in-context mundane before were unnecessary.

Monsters don't demonstrate the capacity to shred through solid steel or tear down entire fortifications excepting when their sheer mass allows them to plow through such things. In pretty much every game a log gate is enough to hold them off. There's no reason to assume your average monster is a threat to even a relatively primitive society and in-context elder dragons are often called such because they're the things around that CAN have major effects on the environment.

There's no reason to assume space marines with high-caliber modern weaponry couldn't fare just as well as high-end bowguns, one of the best of which is simply a modified blackpowder weapon.

These threads frequently devolve into 40K WOULD STOMP [x setting] or 40K HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT COULD TAKE [x thing in setting] which is just pointless dickwaving. It's more productive (and fun!) to take the rationale of both settings, reconciling them as best you can, and then trying to pass judgement.

>> No.74973835

>>74973819
>where they were in-context mundane before
BUT THEY WEREN'T. That's our fucking point!

>> No.74973869

>>74967317
>You severly overestimating your average hunters
We're really not. Dalamadur alone could probably take out half of Macragge before Ultramarines eventually take it down.
>player hunters are something like novel main character captian
And player hunters make up the majority of hunters if you go by multiplayer. And even the NPC hunters are still as durable as a PC even if they don't succeed as many hunts. Which they still do complete plenty of hunts you're not part of, you just don't hear about it because they're not plot relevant hunts.

>> No.74973880

>>74967286
"Hunt the Squiggoth."

>> No.74973899

>>74973819
>I'm just saying that making things in monster hunter suddenly have magical properties where they were in-context mundane before were unnecessary.
Elder Dragons have always been magical.

>Monsters don't demonstrate the capacity to shred through solid steel or tear down entire fortifications excepting when their sheer mass allows them to plow through such things. In pretty much every game a log gate is enough to hold them off.
Except in cutscenes or other scenarios where Brute Wyverns show that they can do so. Also many monsters in the setting can fly over such fortifications.

>> No.74973920

>>74967270
Orks/Nids would be a better crossover. Some nids show up in MonHun land and some Ork Kommandos crash land after them to join in on the hunt. Orks would fit in swimmingly with Hunters and they'd keep confusing Palicos for grots, only to get their faces scratched up and get abandoned in the wilds whenever they try to treat one like a grot.

>> No.74973937

>>74973195
You mean Lost Planet 2? I agree that a sequel is long overdue and 3 doesn't count.

>> No.74973955

>>74971580
>Lower foodchain stuff smashes boulders with ease. Also things like that steel sword lizard and lavasioht exist
That's literally tyranids though. The oceans of Fenris have motherfucking bioluminescant krakens in them my dude, they could eat a fucking cedaeus and metabolize it's moonlight-horn-bullshit too. The wolves on Fenris grow as large as a fucking odogaron and space marines in full power armor ride on them.

>> No.74973977

>>74973642
Not a single non demonic/tyranid creature can even match a fucking Brachydios, you don't even have to start reaching for the Elders. Hell, Brachy could probably quite easily kill some lords of change and assorted daemon princes

>> No.74973989

>>74973977
While I agree with you that Brachydios is impressive, I wouldn't go so far as to put it in the same weight class as high-end daemons.

>> No.74974022

>>74973688
>Yama Tsukami's propulsion method literally isn't known or understand
most things aren't understood in-context

>Kirin can fucking teleport via lightning
when?

>Chameleos can move so quickly whilst invisible that it may as well be moving at superspeed
I see you've never broken its horn and seen what it's doing while it's invisible

>And if we factor in Frontier
I don't, personally

>>74973835
>>74973899
I don't interpret it that way. If you want to that's fine but a lot of the enjoyment of monster designs for me has always been trying to "figure out" how they work in-context and the game does a lot to support your attempts to do so rather than just throwing your hands up and going "guess it's magic!"

>Except in cutscenes or other scenarios where Brute Wyverns show that they can do so
May I have an example?

>> No.74974036

>>74972197
Some suits and weapons take brain-stems to craft, so I've been under the assumption for a while they're made of still-living tissue that refuses to die, and thusly some kind of bio-booster armor with synaptic links. So "power armor" is not a far-off description, especially of something like uragaan armor where the chonky boy was mostly mineral.

>> No.74974040

>>74973955
>The oceans of Fenris have motherfucking bioluminescant krakens in them my dude
They can't even shoot rays of thought-destroying Dragon Element bro.

>> No.74974056

>>74973819
>In pretty much every game a log gate is enough to hold them off.
It's not the logs that fends them off, it's the hunters on the other side of said logs. The logs are just there to delay them long enough for the normies to hide. In fact, literally every single MonHun has quests where monsters are sniffing around the settlement and you're tasked to get rid of them, on top of quests to stop elder dragons from wholesale ending massive cities just by migrating

>> No.74974066

>>74972889
They're probably tyranids. It's always tyranids. Look at rathalos jaw and compare to Hive Fleet Kraken's jaw-spurs.

It's probably the exact same shit as on Fenris. If not just actually Fenris the entire time...

>> No.74974107

>>74973989
I'd say Brachy is tough and tenacious enough to at least give anything the same size as him or a touch bigger a rough time of it. And that's just standard Brach, once you start getting into the subspecies 40K is fucked.

>> No.74974126

>>74974036
>so I've been under the assumption for a while they're made of still-living tissue that refuses to die
This is literally explicitly stated in game. Elder dragon bones will keep growing after death, too.

>> No.74974151

"what the fuck are we doing on Catachan?"

>> No.74974160

>>74973443
It's a psyker, most elder dragons are powerful psykers. I mean even genestealers are psykers to a limited degree so I could see a Fatalis or Xeno'jiva having a rather large warp-signature, especially with their Shin Gojira-like biologies, with isotopes in their DNA and stuff. I mean even a fucking brachydios has some sort of explosive mucous... that can;t be explained without getting into 90's cartoon biology... ninja turtles and shit, which is what Warhammer 40,000 runs on as well.

>> No.74974174

>>74973554
40K thinks a Nitro Toad is worthy of being called one of the largest dangers of the deadliest deathworlds. Meanwhile, Hunters keep Catachan Barking Toads as pets and use them as convenient traps when hunting.

>> No.74974183

>>74974022
>most things aren't understood in-context
These people have had literal thousands of years, if not millennia and have not remotely discovered how these things work.

>when?
It flashsteps via its lightning manipulation in World and several of the games. In Online, a Rajang and a Kirin face off and the latter bails literally by teleporting out in a flash of lightning.

>I see you've never broken its horn and seen what it's doing while it's invisible
Breaking it's horn actually physically impairs it, which is noticed by how it struggles to keep itself in the air once the horn is destroyed. The sheer difference in speed between it with the horn and it without it is monumental.

>I don't, personally
That's fair even if I don't personally agree with it. I brought up Frontier because it reinforces my point: MH is a high fantasy setting wrapped in low fantasy skin. World even emphasizes this with what are canon interdimensional events occurring in the New World like Behemoth and Relicts popping up.

>May I have an example?
Glavenus for one thing. The quest to repel Velkhana literally has it fly well above the log gate with contemptuous ease once you get it to piss off the first time. Pretty certain even Tigrex has shattered stone formations in cutscenes and gameplay.

>> No.74974209

>>74973581
Are we talking lore marines, where each one is a nigh-unkillable one-man army, or are we talking actual game marines, where one of them is a match for like three ordinary guardsmen?

>> No.74974231

>>74974160
See >>74972889. The canon theorizing is that Elder Dragons are elaborate illusions constructed by our minds attempting to comprehend something entirely unimaginable.

They aren't psykers. They're tiny eldritch pieces of some kind of God poked into reality.

>> No.74974235

>>74974183
There's also Tetsucabra, a pitifully low level monster that digs up and crushes boulders as a standard attack

>> No.74974241

>>74974231
So daemons. Marines can kill those.

>> No.74974249

>>74974183
>Pretty certain even Tigrex has shattered stone formations in cutscenes and gameplay.
I recall that in MH2, they used a Tigrex's powerful screamer sacs to literally shatter an ice formation to unblock a cave.

Also, in Tri there was quite a number of rock formations - stalactites, small rock formations and other such stuff like - both underwater and above ground that a monster could straight up chase you through, making the entire structure collapse.

>> No.74974273

>>74974241
Elder Dragons make the majority of daemons look pissweak in comparison. The only reason I haven't brought up the anime bullshit of Frontier which makes MH powerlevels even crazier is because it's unfair.

>>74974249
There's also several large structures in Generations that monsters as small as a Nargacuga can literally collapse with a single tail strike.

>> No.74974287

Who would win:
>ancient all consuming tentacle monsters from beyond the stars
Or
>one very hungry pickleboi

>> No.74974294

>>74974273
I'm not really certain Frontier is canon to begin with, though obviously we don't have to start dipping into it to get shenanigan-grade bullshit.

>> No.74974343

>>74974294
Over time, Capcom has been porting several of its monsters and even some mechanics into the mainline. Like the whole "run for cover right now or you fucking die no saves" shit with Behemoth, Leshen and Alatreon's Eschaton Judgement. They've been increasingly escalating how much damage certain monsters have been dealing too, to the point several can oneshot you from full health.

>> No.74974351

>>74973869
>We're really not. Dalamadur alone could probably take out half of Macragge before Ultramarines eventually take it down.
No, Dalamadur is about as strong as a Tyranid bio-titan; of which many were deployed by Hive Fleet Leviathan and destroyed by the Ultramarines on Macragge and many other planets in that conflict. Giant aliens that shoot lasers and acid spews. Same tier as a Dalamadur or Jhen Mohran desu.

>> No.74974365

>>74974351
Yeah, that other anon seems to be selling them a bit too highly. Elder dragons are some scary "call reinforcements" shit, but they're by no means scarier than everything in 40k.

>> No.74974380

>>74973920
Adorable, fund it.

>> No.74974398

>>74974351
Dalamadur carves mountains apart just by moving. It can also summon magic meteors at will and vaporize things that aren't Hunters with its laser breath.

>> No.74974404

>>74971662
I AM WILLIAM WALLACE

>> No.74974417

>>74974380
Imagine catching rippers and squiglets with your capture net and decorating your house with them and a costume for your Palico that turns them into a grot.

>> No.74974419

>>74974398
Don't forget that it's very likely that the Rotten Vale, an entire ecosystem, is likely built out of the corpse of a Dalamadur nest.

>> No.74974449

>>74974351
>>74974365
A single Dalamadur crushes mountains by moving a little bit, summons the shattered pieces of stars to plummet and smite enemies (with the implication that it's shattering them itself), and can fire nuclear laser beams capable of obliterating Hunters. There are few things in 40k that can compare and Tyranid biotitans are NOT one of them.

>>74974419
Rotten Vale wasn't a nest. It's implied to be the remains of one particularly large specimen.

>> No.74974455

>>74974040
We don't really know that, they've only been mentioned in passing and that they were likely tyranid. A tyranid that size is likely a synapse creature and would have enough neurological tissue to do exactly that, it's what "bio-lightning" is in Warhammer essentially, usually described as green, but sometimes purple such as the symbiotic dragonbugs on a Stygian Zinogre.

>> No.74974467

>>74974449
>It's implied to be the remains of one particularly large specimen.
Jesus christ, that's a lot of snake

>> No.74974472

>>74974351
>barely the size of a small building
>remotely comparable to Dalamadur
The fact that a mere biotitan can fuck up Marines so heavily just proves my point that they'd get assfucked in MonHun. Electric Rape Ape alone could probably solo a primarch.

>> No.74974479

>>74974287
Savage Jho is bad enough I don't want to imagine what the fucking Xeno's could do with a primal embodiment of pitiless rage.

>> No.74974481

>>74974126
Nice, got a sauce though? Some people I doubt would believe my logic combined with "/tg/ agreed with me."

>> No.74974512

>>74974174
A nitro-toad with a 3km blast-radius of fast-acting corrosive toxins. Thing could one-shot a Nergigante.

>> No.74974532

>>74974467
Dalamadur can grow to fucking stupid sizes if left unchecked. I'm pretty certain the only things with even the potential to dwarf them are things like Zorah and Laviente, the former being a literal walking mountain and the latter needing to eat entire ecosystems whole just to sustain itself.

>> No.74974545

>>74974512
>fast-acting corrosive toxins
So the Rotten Vale. EZPZ

>> No.74974565

>>74974512
Given that this is Nergigante, it would probably survive and grow stronger from consuming the toxins.

>> No.74974574

>>74974481
There's a bunch of content about it in Generations iirc

>> No.74974589

>>74974231
Yeah that's just daemons then. I mean even daemons are technically just extra-dimensional alien psykers, and "teleporting using your brain-horns" is like, common for daemons across all media, even anime waifus.

>> No.74974624

>>74974467
>>74974532
Then you recall that the Primal Forest is literally made out of the individual bones of something that makes the Mohrans, Lao, Dalamadur and even Raviente seem positively miniscule in comparison.

>> No.74974641

>>74973819
>onsters don't demonstrate the capacity to shred through solid steel or tear down entire fortifications
And at the same time they also frequently cause natural disasters and level mountain ranges...

>There's no reason to assume space marines with high-caliber modern weaponry couldn't fare just as well as high-end bowguns
Except for all of our knowledge of what bowguns and bolters actually are and how they perform.

>> No.74974688

>>74973594
>he thinks the guild from Monster Hunter poses any threat to Astartes

boy you dumb as hell

>> No.74974695

Relevant video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkEiEabTgvA

>> No.74974740

>>74973819
Dire Miralis boils oceans by sitting in them, Shagaru Magala uses a zombie plague as its natural defense mechanism and Shara Ishvalda moves around tectonic plates

>> No.74974768

>>74974688
>he thinks Ass Tarts could even touch the guild with their pretty little popguns and armor so thin it makes a jaggi look like a barioth
Lmao get carted scrub

>> No.74974862

>>74974398
Okay, so can a bio-titan. We can assume the Forgeworld minis are silver crown small ones, economy and all. Outside the magic meteors, but that's just using psyker powers to pull orbiting debris down, most hive fleets eat everything they can metabolize in orbit and blot out the sun until the planet is consumed or they are repelled.

>>74974449
Again, bio-titans are huge, I posted the smallest kind. Tyranids have psyker powers like long-range telekinesis (what is a zoanthrope?) and their ships can fold space using city-sized synapse clusters. Bio-lasers start at carnifex size. Again, heirophants are small and the mini is a silver crown small-boi..

>>74974472
I mean but those are NPC marines, how many NPC hunters can a dalamadur slay? And then some jap goes and solos it in three minutes with a lance. What could a force commander and some terminators do? Probably kill it with some marines getting fucking carted. Pretty sure a primarch can kill a Rajang, Vulkan grew up fighting dragons and wyverns on the daily on Nocturne, where the 17-meter long flying "drakes" fit the descriptions of a Rathalos, and aren't considered true "dragons" which lay at the top of the food chain.

>>74974532
Most aren't even as big as a Zorah Magdaros however, especially taking "raw biomass" into consideration versus "length" Dalamadur I hunted was fucking smol, Jhen Mohran had more biomass to it. "Stop getting charmed by the length of the snake and look at it's head to strike it."

>>74974565
Bro it would be dead, if I can beat it to death with an insect glaive in 5 minutes; a fucking barking toad is going to leave a neatly severed tail.

>> No.74974905

>>74974512
>A nitro-toad with a 3km blast-radius of fast-acting corrosive toxins.
Anon, monsters live in the rotten vale and literal fucking lava. The barking toad is fucking nothing.

>> No.74974917

>>74974768
Idiot, astartes can exterminatus an entire planet and everything on it's surface using their battle barges and strike cruisers. The guild is a planetary power at best with no orbital defenses.

>> No.74974918

>>74974862
>Okay, so can a bio-titan.
No they can't. Mountain sized, let alone mountain or star shattering biotitans aren't a thing remotely suggested in the lore.

>> No.74974973

>>74974917
>whoops, white fatalis erased you from time and space, come back with no more than four dudes next time and try again

>> No.74974988

>>74974917
Astartes don't have immediate access to Exterminatus, and it is never a first resort or even a second resort.

>> No.74974999

>>74974287
Remember that time the guild starved and beat one and then when it got even angrier and too dangerous to keep anymore, they reclassified it as a different sub-species and posted a quest to kill it?

>> No.74975017

All I know is now after reading this entire thread: I want stygian zinogre fur and other parts on my future sororitas power armor.

Fucking imagine power armor made of the high-end monsters. Imagine a rathalos chainsword. Imagine a deviljho lasrifle. Uragaan dreadnaught. Narcacuga power sword. Zinogre lightning claws. It keeps going forever...

>> No.74975023

>>74974999
>mfw 99% of quests in monster hunter are asinine shit like a princess being mad that the animal trampled some flowers

>> No.74975039

>>74974862
>how many NPC hunters can a dalamadur slay?
None. Felynes are both quick and daring with their medical carts.

>> No.74975063

>>74974862
>Okay, so can a bio-titan
>We can assume the Forgeworld minis are silver crown small ones
Prove it by posting a picture of one big enough to harm a mountain range by movement alone. Otherwise we'll just assume Frontier and all the flavor text on weapons to be 100% canon in which case a single Hunter could solo the entirety of 40K

>> No.74975081

>>74975039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqH3DgLA1YU

Not quick enough

>> No.74975102

>>74975023
>>74974999
Remember when a princess demanded the capture of the second most dangerous subspecies of Rathian simply because pink was In that season and she needed to have the best birthday ball possible?

>> No.74975107

>>74975081
You can't be quick enough for anything when a stray Dragon Element thunderbolt deletes the hunter from all reality, to be fair.

>> No.74975109

>>74975081
wrong vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-KwP3iLzQk

>> No.74975115

>>74974973
Send a servitor to summon it, bombard it from orbit with everything available because it's basically a final fantasy summon. But bear in mind these are the very kind of creatures space marines were created to eradicate.

>>74974988
I'm not saying they would, just that they can. The guild has no room to get so uppity when they're not even a sector-power.

>> No.74975137

>>74975017
>Fucking imagine power armor made of the high-end monsters
It'd be fucking garbage because Admech know fuck all compared to Smith.

>> No.74975138

>>74975115
>But bear in mind these are the very kind of creatures space marines were created to eradicate.
space marines cant eradicate fucking Orks, this thing is an immortal reality bending abomination that can erase you from time and space

>> No.74975145

>>74974918
Except all over official codex art. Note how much larger this is than a heirophant, look how small the crisis suits are in comparison, look how far way it is still.

What the fuck is a fatalis or a dalamadur compared to that?

>> No.74975157

>>74975063
These Biggass dudes in the background here are the size of mountains desu. Though given how light they are in lore they probably wouldn't shatter mountains, due to their hollow bone structure and psionic lightness.

They are nonetheless however in the right size scale. Keep in mind all those jumping tau they completely dwarf are 12 foot tall battlesuits, and that puts these boys at substantially above Godzilla scale.

>> No.74975158

>>74975023
>i shit my pants when this diablos screamed at me, go kill it

>> No.74975173

>>74975157
>These Biggass dudes in the background here are the size of mountains desu
You havent actually seen a mountain in real life have you?

>> No.74975175

>>74975138
So are most Chaos Daemons.
There are plenty of reality bending abominations that can erase you from time and space in 40k.

>> No.74975177

>>74975157
That looks about the size of a xenojiiva at the largest, nowhere near Dalamadur sizes.

>> No.74975190

>>74975175
>There are plenty of reality bending abominations that can erase you from time and space in 40k.
Yea,Ctan.

>> No.74975191

>>74975081
>>74975109
Didn't see anyone die my boy.

>> No.74975202

>>74975177
Thats way bigger than Xeno, its lao shan big.

>> No.74975203

>>74975173
I backpack as a hobby. Look at the Gargoyles under the belly of the left bio-titan in the background. For scale each of those is about nine feet long with a 12 or more foot wingspan. By reference that rear Hierophant is about half a mile tall, and there are plenty of half-mile tall mountains in the world.

>> No.74975217

>>74975191
Second video, he gets hit by thunder and stops existing.

>> No.74975255

>>74975145
>>74975157
You clearly have no idea how large mountains actually are. Or really any sense of scale beyond the grossly inflated and inaccurate scales of 40k.

>> No.74975274

>>74975102
Further evidence all princesses are actually psychotic vampires who love seeing heroes suffer.

>> No.74975278

>>74975203
If any of those were half a mile long, they'd literally cover a ground distance so significant that fighting them in melee would be tantamount to suicide. As in, it wouldn't happen in the lore at all.

Meanwhile, actually lore sizes have Dreadnoughts somehow fighting biotitans directly and Dreadnoughts aren't fucking mountain sized.

>> No.74975333

>>74962815
Decently. I don't think a random squad of marines would qualify as the strongest group on the planet, not by a decent margin, but they're definitely stronger than your standard low-mid tier hunter

Regarding the retarded wank on both sides ITT, I'll remind both sides that no matter what kirby will win

>> No.74975347

>>74975333
Wasted trips.

>> No.74975378

>>74975173
>>74975173
>>74975177
I'm from Romania, a small village in the Carpathians, and after I moved to Canada the family I was living with took me on a road-trip to BC through the rocky mountains. Those are 12-foot-tall crisis suits in the foreground, that unnamed bio-titan in the background is much much larger than a dalamadur or a zorah magdaros. It's still kilometers away based on the fog and smoke. plus see what >>74975203 said, it's probably a half-mile tall. Go outside more often.

>> No.74975426

>>74975255
No, the problem is that you want something desperately to not match up to the setting you're wanking.

Let us take for example, the Sandia range in New Mexico, they have a Topographical prominence of around .7-.8 miles, and are by no means a small grouping of mountains.

In comparison, if we take the wingspan of a Gargoyle to be about 12 feet (Which is probably too small, given their standard depictions) we can then measure those itty bitty gargoyes against that big motherfucking titan they're flying out from under. It takes about 5 or 6 of the ones directly under it to even cross the width of it's leg, and it's leg seems to be about 40 times as tall as it is wide. That puts us at 200 x 12 Feet, which is 2400 feet tall, as opposed to the Sandias 4098 foot Topagraphical prominence.

Obviously then it is smaller than the Sandia, but in an extremely comparable height range.

But as I said, Sandia is not a small mountain. If we were to compare it to Sugarloaf Mountain, Maryland, with a topographical prominence of only 1,283 feet, the Hierophant would utterly dwarf it. Standing almost twice it's height.

>> No.74975463

>>74975278
Fighting the bigger bio-titans in melee is utterly pointless, obviously without an equally large human titan. Dreadnaughts are just fighting the smaller versions like the models.

>> No.74975481

>>74975426
See >>74975278. You are actually insane if you think any ground force in 40k is actually a bunch of mountain-sized super monsters.

>>74975463
>obviously without an equally large human titan.
You do realize Titans are small as shit, right? They're nowhere near mountain-size.

>> No.74975508

>>74975278
The smallest bio-titan, a heirodule, could be fought by a dreadnought with infantry support, as they're about 24 meters long.

The largest bio-titans are engaged in melee combat only by imperial titans, Battletech-sized or larger mecha with power-fists and chainsaws the size of factories on the largest titans. This is a sub-titan Imperial Knight compared to the somewhat small tyranid heirophant.

>>74974973
The largest are also equipped with void shields, starship defenses meant to protect ships from being consumed by hostile realities, so Fatalis would first have to bring down a titan or strike cruiser's void shields to erase it from reality. There's also nothing implying Fatalis has the capacity to do so at such ranges.

>> No.74975510

>>74975378
>>74975426
>>74975463
The worst form of 40kid wank is always scale wank.

>> No.74975555

>>74975508
>The largest bio-titans are engaged in melee combat only by imperial titans, Battletech-sized or larger mecha with power-fists and chainsaws the size of factories on the largest titans.
Titans literally aren't as big as you're wanking them. There's a fucking Evangelion thread going on right now tearing apart this EXACT kind of wank.

Also, imagine using the fucking model sizes to justify why every ground unit in 40k is somehow the size of a fucking mountain range and is multi-kilometres long.

>The largest are also equipped with void shields, starship defenses meant to protect ships from being consumed by hostile realities, so Fatalis would first have to bring down a titan or strike cruiser's void shields to erase it from reality.
Void shields don't function like that on battlefield forces. Anything with sufficient size and power that gets into melee range can literally just ignore them.

>> No.74975576

>>74975481
Oh wow, look at that, artwork of similarly scaled Human Titans.

Almost like the setting scales up much higher than what we can see on tabletop.

Weird.

>> No.74975589

>>74975481
>>74975510
>You are actually insane if you think any ground force in 40k is actually a bunch of mountain-sized super monsters.

>The worst form of 40kid wank is always scale wank.

So much salt.

>> No.74975624

>>74975576
Warlord and Emperor Titans are small as shit retard. They're smaller than 75 metres, which is shit tier compared to any actual mountain. The only ones that even reach the smallest sizes that you've been jerking yourself off to are Imperator-class titans.

>>74975589
>No arguments beyond baseless headcanon and scalewankery
>literally bringing in Titans when OP brings Astartes only

>> No.74975658

>>74975624
Based on the size of that door on it's gun, and assuming that it is six feet, which would be short, that left side gun alone is 120 feet tall, or around 35 Meters. Scaling that up to the rest of the titan it is clearly well over 200 meters or a thousand some odd feet tall.

>> No.74975677

>>74975658

Off model art does not an argument make.

>> No.74975684

>>74975658
Is that in the books (the only actual canon)? No, and it's just you pulling Spacebattles calcs out your ass? Okay then, class dismissed.

>> No.74975693

>>74975684
>>74975677
Lol, if the art depicts both sides having war machines far taller than you claim them to be, then evidently the lore is flexible, and you just don't want it to be comparable to your favorite wankfest.

>> No.74975704

Why are we even arguing this when Shara Ishvalda alone can manipulate tectonic plates and sink whole mountain ranges casually? That alone would BTFO even max-wank Titans/Biotitans instantly.

>> No.74975737

>>74975555
>Titans literally aren't as big as you're wanking them. There's a fucking Evangelion thread going on right now tearing apart this EXACT kind of wank.
Oh the idiots who argue about which 12-year-old girl they want to fuck for the last 30 years think they know how tie their shoes now, do they? An Emperor-class titan is 150 meters tall, Mount Wycheproof in Australia is 148 meters tall.

>Also, imagine using the fucking model sizes to justify why every ground unit in 40k is somehow the size of a fucking mountain range and is multi-kilometres long.
Says the guy wanking dalamadur's size over fanart of it fighting american reboot Godzilla? Get real.

>Void shields don't function like that on battlefield forces. Anything with sufficient size and power that gets into melee range can literally just ignore them.
Okay; but his reality-deletion ability is a lightning attack, so it's ranged and the shields will work until it get inside them, which will be difficult when it's firing nova cannons missiles and AA at said fatalis the second it's in range.

If four people can hunt a fatalis with swords it stands no chance against any of these Imperial forces. A fucking Librarian could probably solo it with mind-powers and a storm bolter. Get real.~

>> No.74975744

>>74975693
>no! If the canon disagrees with me then the canon is wrong!
Not how this works faggot. Prove that your "muh multi-kilometre tall mountain sized Titans" are actually reflected in the actual lore or fuck off.

We have posted shit Elder Dragons can do in the canon. Literally all you've provided as a counterargument is baseless scalewankery based on off model art.

>> No.74975760

>>74975624
>No arguments beyond baseless headcanon and scalewankery
>literally bringing in Fatalis when OP brings survival only

>> No.74975773

>>74975737
See >>74975684. Shut the fuck up already. The majority of Titans are small as shit, biotitans even smaller. Your wank isn't remotely supported by the canon.

>Says the guy wanking dalamadur's size over fanart of it fighting american reboot Godzilla?
We have in-game lore and cutscenes and environmental proof of the size of Dalamadur. What do you have? Oh right, fucking nothing.

>> No.74975778

>>74975744
Who on earth mentioned multi-kilometre tall titans? all of these have been well below a mile tall.
Would you like me to show you the Trench that a single shot from an Imperator has dug in DoW 2? Or maybe the fact that Deathstrike Missiles can level Small Hive Towers in canon lore?

Besides, there is no hard 40k Canon. You're just whinging because you don't want to admit defeat.

>> No.74975796

>>74975760
Fatalis is an actual part of the world that can be mentioned as something you are liable to encounter. Your average Astartes regiment does not come with Imperator or even Emperor class Titans as a rule.

>> No.74975799

>>74972197
the quick rundown of MH lore is basically
>world has a ton of civilizations and most wyverns and some low-tier elders are hunted with huge fuckoff weapons like dragonators for sport
>in addition, wyverns and elders were used as manual labor or as lab rats and violently experimented on
>elders get real fucking tired of being pushed around by humans and start burning their kingdoms down
>the ancient humans, having extremely advanced tech by MH standards created two things to combat the elder dragons
>the first was the Equal Dragon Weapon which was a horrible cyborg abomination made from mechanical and body parts of varios wyverns and dragons, designed to be on the same level as the dragons
>the fucking thing was so horrifyingly strong, it needed the deaths of at least 30 ELDER DRAGONS to create, and the more it killed the longer it lived
>the second was genetic modification to humans to make them fight on par with the dragons
>the mods were on a cellular level to increase strength, speed, stamina and focus. average joes were heaving around 500lb swords like kids swing a stick
>eventually the big mack daddy of the dragons shows up, a black dragon called fatalis
>this fucker, with the other elders, absolutely smokes the ancients and torches all their cities and fortresses
>the end result of the war is most elders are critically endangered, extinct or fuck off to the far reaches
>the fatalis that destroyed the ancients kept growing and eventually became a white fatalis
point of reference is that the white fatalis causes an eclipse when it shows up, can shoot lighting that can disintigrate a hunter instantly and make black holes
and hunters kill it for funsies
the astartes would be tripping over each other to recruit dudes and tame beasts from the MH world
the chaos gods would be fucking drooling at what dumb shit they could corrupt there

>> No.74975823

>>74975778
>Would you like me to show you the Trench that a single shot from an Imperator has dug in DoW 2?
You mean a non-canon game with literally zero accuracy to things in mainline 40k? Sure.

>Besides, there is no hard 40k Canon. You're just whinging because you don't want to admit defeat.
>literally so butthurt MonHun rapes his precious 40k that he's desperately going "t-there is no canon!!" to excuse his powerwank
Pathetic.

>> No.74975853

>>74975823
My dude, the game is literally canon, all of the Blood Ravens shit has been brought up in White Dwarf and mentioned in Codexes?

It's more than obvious that your standard for Canon is "Whatever is convenient for me at this second." fuck off.

>> No.74975858

>>74975799

Trying to turn a hunter into a space marine would be, if anything, a massive downgrade.

If you level a tank-mounted meltagun at a Hunter and full blast him with firepower thats designed to vaporize armored units instantly, whats going to happen is that the Hunter is going to pass out from the pain, get dragged back to camp by his friends, wake up a few minutes later and say "Alright. If that happens *two more times* I'm going home for the day and coming back tomorrow."

>> No.74975876

>>74975853
None of the DoW games are canon. I'm not sure what the fuck you're pushing 40kid, but this is embarrassing.

>> No.74975885

>>74975773
You're ignoring canon entirely and not worth arguing with. Emperor titans have been documented as up to 150 meters tall, these are however not implied to be the largest specimens of their category:
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Emperor_Battle_Titan
Mount Wycheproof in Australia is 148m tall in comparison, so they stand two meters taller than one of the shortest mountains on Earth.

This means, Mr Patrick Starfish, that they are as tall as a mountain. Dalamadur is 440 meters long in comparison, very long, but that is long, not tall.

>> No.74975902

>>74975885
>Mount Wycheproof in Australia is 148m tall in comparison, so they stand two meters taller than one of the shortest mountains on Earth.
>one of the shortest mountains on earth
>shortest
Oh, so they aren't remotely comparable to either Dalamadur, Laviente or Zorah Magdaros then. Neat.

>> No.74975907

>>74975876
Lol, literally trying to rewrite the setting on the fly to avoid the thing staring him right in the face. Titan weapons carve through mountain ranges like butter.

>> No.74975924

>>74975902
>Giant snake is 440 meters tall
>Medium sized imperators are 150 Meters tall
>Waaaaaaaagh my monster hunter wank isn't working mommy!

>> No.74975937

>>74975907
>Lol, literally trying to rewrite the setting on the fly to avoid the thing staring him right in the face.
You're the only one trying to take DoW as gospel, 40kid. I'm just pointing out how retarded and asspained you are.

>Titan weapons carve through mountain ranges like butter.
And Shara Ishvalda can sink them in seconds. Your point?

>> No.74975946

>>74975885

First off, 1d4chan isn't canon. Come, on, that shouldn't even be a question.

Second, the very article you posted lists 150 meters as the upper known limit and then immediately lists the size of shit that actually exists in the game as 56 meters. Trying to pretend that the 150meter version is the default is grotesquely fallacious.

>> No.74975960

>>74975796
"how would they fare?" doesn't mean "would they go to the top of the highest mountain and slay a dragon god that protects the cosmos for no fucking reason at all?"

You're pulling this adolescent middle-school "nuh uh I'm ignoring all of your sources because my Pokémon is the best" bullshit and calling everyone who disagrees a faggot while moving the fucking goal-post again with more of your BULLSHIT HEAD-CANON.

>> No.74975987

>>74975924
>literally pulls shit out of his ass to wank 40k
>Waaaaa mommy mommy the mean people are bullying 40k again! MOMMY

>> No.74976003

>>74975799
Where the fuck did any of this bullshit come from? "Equal dragon weapon"? The fuck?

I always thought it was the far, far future of Resident Evil since the old item boxes had faded Umbrella Corporation logos on them, and all the hunters were the survivors of Ourobouros hence their Alber Wesker-tier strength and reacton-times.

>> No.74976034

>>74976003
>"Equal dragon weapon"? The fuck?

>> No.74976038

>>74975960

Thats fair. Lets restart things, then:

If you stranded a group of Space Marines in Monster Hunter, they do would pretty well against common monsters, but there are still certain things that would give them trouble. They would do poorly if they were unfortunate enough to aggro the larger threats flying around, but they can just as easily avoid them.

The real threat to Space Marines are not the Monsters, its the Monster Hunters. Monster Hunters are essentially primarch tier individuals in terms of physical toughness and ability. If the space marines want to survive, they need to be very, very careful not to try and throw their weight around when talking to the "humans" of the setting, because if that turns into a fight its not one they are likely to win.

>> No.74976111

>>74975960
The 40kids were literally the first to pull "ummm ACKSHUALLY" shit with their biotitan Nid faggotry. Don't act like you're the goddamn victims here when you not only pulled shit out your ass, made fallacious claims and then tried to pass it off as 40k "winning against MH fanwanking."

There are some settings 40k doesn't compare to or shitstomp. Fucking deal with it and stop making everything revolving around dickflexing with 40k whenever people tell you things you don't like to hear.

>> No.74976149

>>74976038
>Monster Hunters are essentially primarch tier individuals in terms of physical toughness and ability.
I'm a MonHun fag and I call bullshit on this. Monster Hunters are real impressive, but the only reason they don't die when hit is because of game mechanics working on anime logic. Primarchs and other, similar singular entities are generally going to be much hardier than your average hunter.

Now, the main characters of the mainline games? Absolutely you're right. Those bastards regularly take on creatures that shift plate tectonics. But that is very blatantly pointed out as it being ONLY them capable of doing it.

>> No.74976155

>>74975799
Bro you don't understand, astartes are still upgraded on top of normal hunters, everything you described about genetic modification happened to humanity in the DAoT, NPC hunters are still average feral-worlders, high-ranks are potentials for astartes selection, and G-rank hunters are primarchs, just actual primarchs. I'm pretty sure if you kill a dalamadur or fatalis IRL the God-Emperor comes down from the sky and tells you he's your dad and you were cloned in Himalazia on Terra.

>> No.74976202

>>74976149
>>74976155
Hunters kill major Elder Dragons often enough that their effects as armor have been cataloged, as noted up thread. So yes, Hunters outside of the PC and friends are entirely capable of the same general feats.

Don't judge all hunters by the literal rookies who could probably get clapped by a Jaggi.

>> No.74976229

>>74975693
The art also has marines with arms too short to reach their own chests. Are we to take T-Rexmarines as canon too? If so they're absolutely getting killed and carved by Hunters

>> No.74976234

>>74976149
As far as I'm aware it's not just video game mechanics, hunters are actually THAT tough.
You'll notice most quests are about civilians getting fucked by monsters, and the only times it's other hunters giving quests is when an Elder Dragon is involved.
If anything the games are downplaying the destructive capabilities in favor of gameplay.
Yian Garuga is supposed to be a civilization destroyer, for example. Meanwhile in-game it just...shoots fireballs.

>> No.74976250

>>74976202
And you shouldn't judge every hunter by the standards set by masters that even the Guild admits are the only people in the area capable of accomplishing certain things. Like, in Monster Hunter Tri, the guild wants you to evacuate a village because it believes there's no effective way to fight the Ceadeus; then you kit up and go stab it in the fucking face. A Kushala Daora in 4 being in the area is a matter of significant military buildup because the fortress can't be cleared for both political and practical reasons. Yeah, the main characters of the games aren't unique, but that doesn't mean they're your average everyday hunter either.

>> No.74976296

>>74976250
>A Kushala Daora in 4 being in the area is a matter of significant military buildup because the fortress can't be cleared for both political and practical reasons.
That's less because they can't kill the damn thing on their own and more because of the hassle doing so would bring, to be fair.

>> No.74976394

>>74976234
>it just... shoots fireballs
And he is incredibly aggresive, to the point where it can hold angaist a god damn Deviljho as shown in World, also posessing one of the worst earrapes you can suffer in-game, if i remember correctly.

>> No.74976414

They'd probably be fine. Marine gear is at least above the bottom of the barrel (which is an iron knife and a wooden shield) for hunter weapons, and finding a world where humans don't know about the emperor and the imperial cult is fine, they've got protocols for it. The real question is if they can keep their mouths shut about palicoes. You're not passing those off as abhuman, those are straight up xenos. Xenos that are subservient to and practically idolize humans, but xenos nonetheless. Tromping around in the woods killing anything hostile isn't enough to trigger an elder dragon attack, and they wouldn't waste their limited ammo trying to exterminate the wildlife anyway. In the event that they need new weapons or armor, it's all custom made by local smiths anyway, so their size shouldn't be an issue.

>> No.74976461

>>74975876
Dawn of War games are completely canon. You being a gaslit idiot afraid of change doesn't stop them from appearing in White Dwarf, Black Library novels and even Codex: Space Marines?

>> No.74976467

>>74976414
The Imperium actually is willing to go for subservient xeno species, it's just that they've never encountered a xeno species willing to fully submit themselves.

As far as survival goes, it really depends on what their resources are. If the full Lamenter battle barge that vanished appeared above the MonHun world, they'd likely observe from a distance and only intercede if there was going to be a massive loss of life, such as if one of those living natural disasters started moving towards a big city. By contrast, a five-marine squad that ended up stranded without support through some kind of warp fuckery is an entirely different matter.

>> No.74976522

>>74976461
Some events from Dawn of War are tangentially canon. The majority isn't.

>> No.74976523

>>74976149
>because of game mechanics working on anime logic.
How is this any different from Primarchs?
>Primarchs and other, similar singular entities are generally going to be much hardier than your average hunter.
Proof says otherwise seeing as a little anger inducing brain damage is enough to turn a primmy into a babbling retard.

>> No.74976534

>>74976414
>The real question is if they can keep their mouths shut about palicoes
What do you think felinids are? They're even endemic and restricted to a single planet.

>> No.74976683

>>74975858
That's a video game, hunters die in canon. Palicos are a gameplay mechanic, if you're not careful you're dead in that setting and palicos can't actually always save you.

A tank-mounted multi-melta won't kill a hunter in one shot, but it's not something you want to get hit with more than twice without popping a mega potion. They probably have three wounds and the ability to run off and gather items out of difficult terrain to heal themselves with or make primitive melta-bombs to throw at tanks.

Implant them and them into some power armor and you have some freakishly powerful astartes. 5-wound 500-point space marines with gigantic power weapons who ambush and kill tanks and monstrous creatures with new gigantic AP -3/-2 2/3 damage weapons like heavy melta-blades, typhoon hammers, bolt-lances, and heavy bow-bolters.

A full 2000-point army is actually only four of them and some palicos (which let the hunters re-deploy when they run out of wounds).

>> No.74976705

>>74976683
>A full 2000-point army is actually only four of them and some palicos (which let the hunters re-deploy when they run out of wounds).
That's an absolute fuckload of points spent on the best of the best wargear.

>> No.74976729

>>74976155
>astartes are still upgraded on top of normal hunters,
And are fucking nothing compared to hunters.

An astartes is going to get ripped apart by a genestealer or tyranid warrior, let alone a carnifex
A hunter makes trousers out of walking natural disasters called elder dragons.

Yes, the rookie tier basic bitch hunter is nothing special, but theres enough of the higher tiers running about to do all the fancy quests and making pants out of the world destroying monsters to have the fatalis curse be known about (you wear that armor too long and you end up becoming a fatalis)

>> No.74976779

>>74973977
You do realize daemons are immune to conventional weaponry? As long as it has a connection strong enough to sustain it the daemon will just regenerate. You need psykers, holy weapons or complete dieting ration to deal with daemons

>> No.74976787

>>74976683
>hunters die in canon
Prove it

>> No.74976790

>>74975946
A number of different sources list different heights for Emperor-class titans. Imperators are said to be at least 50 metres in height.[5] However, Imperator Titans have also been listed as being 60 meters tall,[7a] 70 meters tall,[8] at least 90 meters tall,[9] and 100 meters tall.[10]
Notably, one particular Emperor-class (Dies Irae) is said to be only 43 metres tall in one source [1], but earlier novel pegs the same Titan as being 140 metres tall.[6])

1: False Gods (Novel), pg. 18
2: Titan Legions, Codex Titanicus, Adeptus Titanicus II, Emperor Class Titans
3: Codex Titanicus (1st Edition), pg. 19
4: Dark Apostle (Novel), [Needs Citation], pg.193
5: Deathwatch: The Achilus Assault, pg. 94
6: Horus Rising (Novel), pg. 18
7: Helsreach (Novel) - Armageddon (Anthology)
7a: Chapter IV
7b: Chapter XXI
8: Iron Hands (Novel), pg. 307
9: Deliverance Lost (Novel), pg. 401
10: Fallen Angels (Novel), pg. 370

From Lexicanum. So tallest ever LISTED IN CANON is then 140 meters, 8m shorter than Mt Dickmeasuringcontest. Also as >>74975684 points out the "Emperor-class" is actually a broad category of as-of yet un-named titan variants. Anything bigger than a "battle titan" is considered an "emperor titan" it's not a direct class like a Warhound is.

>> No.74976807

>>74976779
Good thing there's nothing conventional about Hunter Weapons or the monsters they carve them from.

>> No.74976812

>>74976787
In the very first game, the Kokoto Chief tells you his wife died while fighting a Lao Shan Lung.

>> No.74976813

>>74976779
Its fine, Nergigante weapons destroy souls.

>> No.74976825

>>74976729
So space marines with extremely advanced weaponry would easy carve up everything but the most deadly of creatures?

>> No.74976836

>>74976825
Well, everything until high rank anyways.

>> No.74976849

>>74976836
>>74976825
Simply put, marines require numbers and ordinance to deal with shit like medium size nids (hive tyrants, fexes and mawlocks and the like)

HIgh rank monsters make that stuff look quaint.

>> No.74976882

>>74976813
>a saxophone carved out of a spiky nigger is more power than the God-Emperor himself at the height of his power
O lawd im laffin

>> No.74976898

>>74976849
>>74976825
Okay, but...

Hypothetically

Space Marines in Monhun gear

>> No.74976901

>>74976812
Ah right, there's that. Almost every game after has people getting maimed and crippled by botched hunts, but never killed.

>> No.74976912

>>74976898
They're quite literally too weak to handle it.

>> No.74976913

>>74976849
Yeah, but at that point it's a matter of logistics rather than personal strength. A master hunter could absolutely kill any tyranid a hive manages to throw at them, but the number of hunters capable and prepared for that sort of thing are minimal. The tyranids would out-industry them, versus how the mass-produced astartes work.

Which... actually, I think that's the comparison we should make. Astartes can't reach the absolutely mental heights that monster hunters can, but each of those hunters is an individual, in custom gear. That tells me that the main bonus Astartes have over Hunters is that they're mass-produced and don't have to rely on singular unstoppable badasses to get shit done. If it came to a war between the two, the Imperium would without anything approaching a doubt win.

>> No.74976933

>>74976882
I mean "This Ruiner Nergigante hunting horn's roar purifies the soul of evil."

Yes. (I might have gotten mixed up, it might be the Vaal Hazak ones that destroy souls). Either way, weapons that shit on souls/demons/evil spirits are common in MH, mostly because the weapons are really insane outside of gameplay (and if you take the gameplay as canon that bloodthirster is going to get fucked by a Valor LS or KO HBG)

>> No.74976948

>>74976913
The thing is, the high level hunters may well be quite numerous. Player characters are in this weird state of canon when it comes to the online component of the game.

>> No.74976961

>>74976790
>one particular Emperor-class (Dies Irae) is said to be only 43 metres tall in one source [1], but earlier novel pegs the same Titan as being 140 metres tall.[6])
Shit like this is why I have no idea why you guys care so much about the "lore" of this game.

>> No.74977017

How can people say magic doesn't exist in MonHun when a simple tune on a hunting horn is enough to make your ears immune to the effect of a sonic screech at point blank and yet you can still hear the horn play the next jam to buff your stamina regen?

>> No.74977029

>>74976948
I think we can get away with assuming most regions having at least one hunter team of four capable of Getting Shit Done, or more likely four or five teams. If I recall correctly, there's something like (including the New World) 12 major regions in the world? That's about 200 hunters on this level, worldwide, with more having the potential to get that strong eventually. Not exactly something that can counter an invasion force, especially with how thinly spread they are.

>> No.74977141

>>74977029
Not to mention the stakes it requires to really get the Hunters to get their shit together - most of the time they're just hunting on their own. Occasionally you'll get a walking volcano that's about to nuke an entire area on accident and everyone gets to brass tacks, but usually, they're not that well organized.

>> No.74977172

>>74976933
Heres some other stuff

"Each swing of these Alatreon dual blades births darkness, that eats away at the soul."
"A Stygian Zinogre long sword. It can ruin creation and enslave heaven."
"A flawless gunlance modeled after a Stygian Zinogre. The shells it fires portend the end of the world."
"The hellish lightning from these Stygian Zinogre dual blades can sear the body and scar the soul."
"This Shara Ishvalda charge blade unfurls like lotus petals as it severs soul from sinner."

>> No.74977190

>>74977141
The Guild has stakes on every major and minor settlement save the New World, which is organized to make a new expedition every 10 years. Just have the Guild declare the Battle Barge a limited time G-Rank hunt that grants exclusive gear and it'll be hacked apart and farmed for rare mats before the week is out.

>> No.74977196

>>74974209
Lore marines get fucking rekt by Jeanstealers regularly unless you’re a main character wtf
Even main character get asses kicked

>> No.74977211

>>74977172
and of course fatalis shit:
A scythe for reaping souls. Unhealable wounds torture those it strikes for centuries.

>> No.74977227

>>74977211
Fatalis is also implied by fluff on the armor to eventually take over the hunters that wear it and transform them into a new body for it to use.

>> No.74977230

>>74976034
Oh cool. That could be thousands of years after Resident Evil still. After RE6 having that many bio-weapons shaped like dinosaurs and weird crabs I figure that universe is going the way of the bio-horror apocalypse soon, the outcome of which is usually dragons. Look at tyranids, lot of bug-dragons in those swarms.

>> No.74977250

>>74976705
Yes.

>> No.74977255

>>74977227
Theres a lot of weird lore implications with fatalis, its just generally all round scary.

>> No.74977270

I hate that I autsutically love everything about MonHun and would love an in depth Deep dive series of taxonomy, biology, and ecology of the monhun world and I know I’m never gonna get it

>> No.74977276

>>74977190
>Local demonic invasion placed on endangered list after hunters realize that greater demons drop charms at 1.5* the rare of the next best quest

>> No.74977281

>>74977270
you're actually in luck; they released an artbook a long time ago that gets into the details on how various monsters evolved, and it's the same book we got >>74976034 from.

>> No.74977293

>>74977270
IMO thats kinda the fun. The lore is just there to be "feelsgood" in a sense, to tell you how cool your weapon is and how great you are for beating that monster you just killed and how sweet that new pair of pants youre making are.

>> No.74977327

Ya'll remember that time the Mechanicus found a world of Titan-sized dinosaurs and killed them off because they were an insult to the Machine God

>> No.74977377

>Imperium virus bombs the MH planet
>wyverns adapt to weaponise the life eater virus

>> No.74977398

>>74977377
>Life Eater Val Hazaak

>> No.74977421

>>74962815
Fairly well, if we consider bolters to be equivalent to mid tier bowguns/gunlances. The Astartes would have the advantage of teammates that arent spazzing autists jumping around on pogo sticks, but hampered by the fact they cant upgrade their weapons or change their elemental damage. All in all, a squad would probably be capable of handling anything up to an Elder Dragon.

>> No.74977446

>>74976523
>Proof says otherwise seeing as a little anger inducing brain damage is enough to turn a primmy into a babbling retard.
The Butcher's Nails are cybernetic in nature, it's not just brain-damage it's literally an anger-enhancing implant.

Primarchs are too complex to explain, they're like gods or The Thing or the thing from Phantoms bound into form by hypnotic suggestion, it's how they can become daemon princes so readily, they technically sort of already are to begin with, and when they die they just get lost in the warp as their souls are immortal. I doubt even Horus is truly dead, and the Golden Throne is what's actively keeping the God-Emperor a corpse at a rate that outpaces his passive regeneration. That's like a library of lore from core rule books, codexes, novels and supplements like Inquisitor, Dark Heresy and Necromunda to explain, and a lot of it ties in to strange old 1E pictures and descriptions liek this Leman Russ from the Gauranta D Gaurant system, who died, but was destined to become Leman Russ again and again until he became the primarch of fame and legend and myth.

>> No.74977449

>>74977281
Name?

>>74977293
I get that it’s just the world builder in me can’t help but look at the dinosaur shooting laser beams at me while that and wonder how that works. The fact that the models are rigged up to move like animals also increases my curiosity

>>74977421
>spazzing autists jumping around on pogo sticks
You'd be surprised with how effective this is

>> No.74977453

>>74977421
But do they have i-frames?

>> No.74977456

>>74977377
That's just Gore Magala. Exterminatus is weak shit compared to your average elder

>> No.74977469

>>74977446
>I doubt even Horus is truly dead
Different guy and while I agree mostly up to this point I thought Horus was one of the very few explicitly dead things in the setting?

>> No.74977472

>>74977446
>it's literally an anger-enhancing implant.
And Hunters drink demondrugs for breakfast
>they're like gods or The Thing or the thing from Phantoms bound into form by hypnotic suggestion
So a mid level hunt. Maybe the tail end of High Rank.

>> No.74977478

>>74977449
>I get that it’s just the world builder in me can’t help but look at the dinosaur shooting laser beams at me while that and wonder how that works.
Oh well thats usually rather well explained.Its the backstory that isnt covered beyond myth (because even capcom realises that HH is a bad idea)

>> No.74977481

>>74977421
>The Astartes would have the advantage of teammates that arent spazzing autists jumping around on pogo sticks
Aren't those just Assault Marines but better since Assault Marines are garbage?

>> No.74977493

>>74962815
Pretty good. After overcoming the initial shock they'd probably start enjoying themselves. Those oversized Hunter weapons would actually fit Astartes rather well and some Monsters can take a few bolter rounds.

After a few years they'd declare it a Recruiting World and hunt some of the larger monsters for Custom Wargear.

>> No.74977517

>>74977449
I know how effective it is, since I've tried the spazz pogo stick.

>>74977453
Maybe? But ceramite seems like it would provide more than enough defense against an everyday monster like a Tempered Rathalos.

>> No.74977523

>>74977493
>Those oversized Hunter weapons would actually fit Astartes rather well
They're unironically too big and heavy for space marines

>> No.74977527

>>74977255
Given the final DLC trailer for World has the Sapphire Star and company literally screaming for everyone to run when the thing is detected, which not even Jho's can cause them to do? Yeah, the thing well deserves its horrific reputation.

>> No.74977535

>>74977449
>Name?
"Monster Hunter World Collector's Edition Art Book: Monster Designs" for the one that recently came out for World, and the one that came out with the Equal Dragon Weapon way back when is, I believe, called "Monster Hunter Illustrations".

>> No.74977540

>>74977517
>But ceramite seems like it would provide more than enough defense
Even low rank monsters would be able to put dents in it (diablos charge anyone)

And then when you get to high rank you have shit like lavasioth with just magma spray and shit.

>> No.74977547

>>74977517
>>74977421
>talking shit about the IG
I'll be taking my bug and my Wife Range head and going home then, crownlet

>> No.74977556

>>74976779
None of the more major monsters or weapons are natural. In the mainline games alone you have shit that can destroy souls or potentially blow up the land for miles around. In Frontier, you're going full Nobilis-style "my weapons are the embosiments of fundamental concepts."

>> No.74977565

>>74977527
>which not even Jho's can cause them to do?
Jho isnt very impressive, hes just scary for a regular monster.

Hes below elders and the "super elders" (or super elder equivalents like Akantor and Ukanlos)

>> No.74977594

>>74977565
They aren't impressive in comparison to the shit they normally face but do recall that Deviljho and Savage Deviljho are ecosystem-eaters.

Then there's that one super Jho in Frontier which was basically the Guild going "let's take this savage horrible murderbeast that's already perpetually starving and starve it EVEN MORE."

>> No.74977604

>>74977565
Despite being a pretty easy hunt before World, Jho is a pretty big deal because he literally never stops eating. A single Deviljho can disrupt entire ecosystems alone due to a mixture of depopulating entire species and displacing other predators that manage to avoid getting eaten.

>> No.74977615

>>74977469
I think he got yeeted the hardest because The God-Emperor was furious and in pain. "MTG exiled." He is off the battlefield so to speak for the foreseeable future, and probably meditating chill in the warp, but that leads into a less supportable theory of mine.

The God-Emperor of Mankind planned the Horus Heresy to "kill himself" to fulfill a bargain with the Old Ones and Chaos Gods that stabilizes the universe he exists within. Like Maturin and Pennywise from Stephen King lore, he had to die to complete the Throne, and now must serve his durance at any cost.

>> No.74977632

>>74977604
They have a big impact ecologically, but thats just because theyre batshit. Any elder could have a bigger impact if they wanted, they just dont care enough to do it.

>> No.74977633

>>74977472
You haven't seen either of those films, have you, anon?

>> No.74977634

>>74962815
They would probably do fine, it probably would a good world to put a new monastery on an found Salamanders sucessor Chapter, those guys need more successors and making cool gear out of metal and scales is kind of their style.
That is, if the planet is kept as a Death World but useful.
Wyverians and maybe even the hunters may be considered mutations deserving of extermination but they seem stable enough, luckly they would be considered Abhumans and at least allowed into the Planet Defence and IG/Navy.
Monsters could be useful for training and resources, a smart enough Magus or Governor would see the value of these resources.

Elder Dragons would be a problem, specially if they could in any way be related to the warp, though.
I'm not going to mastubate over Elder Dragon "lore" like our ever present Frontierfag, but the Elder Dragons are a bit of a living natural disaster, nothing that a small team of Astartes can't deal with, since a group of four native hunters can kill those with oonga boonga weapons, but still very powerful and smart creatures.
If they are that smart they would know better than trying their luck against a huge Imperial force, but instead they could retreat, observe, learn and maybe learn a few things.
Could be fun.

>> No.74977643

>>74977540
I'm not super up on 40k lore, but cant their armor stand up to Nid claws?

>>74977547
Fine then, take your stick and leave. All I need is my HAMMER.

>> No.74977662

>>74977643
A mere genestealer can slice right through it. Or an Ork with a rusty hatchet.

>> No.74977696

>>74977633
Again, chump change compared to the average hunt.

>> No.74977704

>>74977643
To some extent yes, but the bigger bioforms like monstrous creatures will go through them like butter, even rending claws on smaller creatures can rip it apart.

>>74977634
>with oonga boonga weapons
>Four superhumans with weapons that would make any relic in 40k have penis envy can kill them, so clearly the sort of roce that struggles clearling !xenomorphs from a space rock can do it
k

>> No.74977722

>>74977633
You know, somehow I dont remember it ever leveling a mountain range.

>> No.74977723

>>74973016
>fragments of stars
Those are meteors, not stars. How many times do we have to tell you that, old man.
The big snek may be powerful and could be pulling meteors from low orbit, or using some magnetic atomic bullshit power to hurl stones from the nearby mountains, irradiate them and drop them on hunters, but those are not star fragments. They leave a stone for the hunters to pick because it is a stone, not a star.
Or do you think that shooting stars are literally stars?

>> No.74977743

>>74977634
>luckly
For the Imperium, that is. Any attempt to orbital bombard the planet would probably result in getting yeeted by an elder and any attempt to conquer the planet by ground forces would end in hilarious, catastrophic failure. Though it would be funny to watch a marine squad go full Broken by the likes of a Kecha Watcha after thinking they were hot shit.

>> No.74977749

>>74977704
>>74977662
That seems like a serious design flaw. Maybe they should get i-frames.

>> No.74977760

>>74977449
Shin Gojira had a scene where they found a printout of Shin Gojira's genome that a scientist named Goro Maki had sequenced, the genome contained isotopes and the printout was stapled and scotch-taped together the size of a large map due to the amount of atomic bonds each isotope created within the genome of the kaiju, this had the side-effect as well of creating so much internal radiation as the isotopes metabolically decayed inside that the creature then mutated to perform a reactor-scram in any way it could, leading to a scene where it belches forth an immense amount of smoke and then fire until the core is exposed and a laser-like stream of unknown EM radiation issues forth, then resonating out of it's dorsal spines in more laser-like waves,until finally it's tail burst open and a beam fires from there as well as it waves it about in pain and confusion.

>> No.74977770

>>74977749
This

Screw the codex astartes, marines must learn the secret art of the superman dive.

>> No.74977776

>>74977749
Space Marines kept help being deficient, they're forced to be that way after accepting another man's Seed into their body. i-frames are a power beyond their skill or understanding.

>> No.74977777

>>74977634
There won't be any monasteries on the planet. The Guild can and will kill them if they push their luck.

>>74977723
>Those are meteors, not stars.
The actual description of what Shattered Omens are disagrees with you faggot.

>A piece of a star that fell at the Dalamadur's behest. Challenging to forge with.

Not a meteor, not mountain rock. A star. Anything else you say is headcanon nonsense trying to apply logic to reality-breaking eldritch abominations.

>> No.74977780

>>74977749

I know, right?

>> No.74977782

>>74977760
I should add the video of the reactor scram:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhCFiHMSyAw&ab_channel=PaulRevere

>> No.74977812

>>74972889
Big nosed lady smokes too much pot.
But her explanation is at least better than "oh they are just so strong just like my Naruto cartoons".
An Eldritch God could allow shards of it to manifest as the dragons, they look like animals, hunt like animals, when killed their bodies can be cut and harvested, but they have an unnatural origin and carry but a hint of intelect and intention. This hypothetical Eldritch God could be unaware of it, with the Elder Dragons being just biproducts of whatever it is that it does.

>> No.74977823

>>74977812
>But her explanation is at least better than "oh they are just so strong just like my Naruto cartoons".
Imagine seething about Kaiju in a game about hunting Kaiju.

>> No.74977826

>>74973053
I wont to sit on her nose while pulling her long ears

>> No.74977829

>>74977722
It was so powerful it didn't have to. It replaced everyone except those it didn't want to. In Phantoms they speculated it was the size of a mountain, it's Tzimisce from the World of Darkness and the God-Emperor of Mankind, and it's genome is more complex even than Shin Gojira here: >>74977760 >>74977782

>> No.74977851

>>74977812
See my post on isotopic genomes and radiation in: >>74977760 >>74977782 and then apply that to CERN research on the LHC to explain White Fatalis biologically. It's metabolism involves smashing subatomic particles together to perform functions.

>> No.74977864

>>74973640
You sound like the kind of kid that believes everything the Pokédex says.

>> No.74977885

>>74977812
>"oh they are just so strong just like my Naruto cartoons".
Imagine seething about anime while simping for 40K

>> No.74977888

>>74977782

Oh my god.

Guys, that thing can be used to make gloves that have THREE LEVELS IN BLAST ATTACK, PLUS GEM SLOTS.

*shoots flare*

>> No.74977889

>>74977634
Not the really passionate anon, but just being familiar with MH:W I'd say the marines would have issue at the very least by the time they get to master rank beef/elder dragons. Hell, Shara Ishvalda un-ironically makes earthquakes on a continental scale by getting a bit twitchy with its hand-wing things. It looks like a backwards ass civilization at first but the hunters, at least the more elite ones, are superhuman tanks.

Sure, this sounds silly considering how it looks, but we aren't arguing about the cohesiveness or believably of the writing, just what happens in the Monster Hunter universe according to the canon.

>> No.74977914

>>74977864
Imagine seething over Pokemon but believing everything some random psyker in 40k says.

>> No.74977946

>>74977823
Hey, the game is about KILLING those kaiju, in your underwear and using a knife and a fork as weapons if you're good enough. The monsters are though but they are not gods.
They are as powerful as those dinosaurs that the Exodite ride or the Squigoths. Elder Dragons are closer to daemons or psykers, but still killable, and worse, they seem to be pretty dumb despite all the talk about them being inteligent.

>> No.74977974

>>74977914

This.

> a weapon crafted from a magic elder dragon that hunts and kills other magic elder dragons has the power to destroy souls

"That's just flavor text bro."

> I heard a rumor that Chaos totally destroyed a billion other universes offscreen last week. No you can't see them, dude trust me.

"450% CANON, JESUS CHRIST CHAOS IS SO COOOOOOOOL"

>> No.74977990

>>74977914
You're just having fun being a contrarian, aren't you?

>> No.74978015

>>74977946
>Hey, the game is about KILLING those kaiju, in your underwear and using a knife and a fork as weapons if you're good enough. The monsters are though but they are not gods.
For starters, Hunters are basically superhumans that make even the more generous (wanky) interpretations of the Priamrchs seem like shitters. And anything that can sink continents if it cares to, shatter stars, erase things form reality, and more is basically indistinguishable from a god.

>> No.74978018

>>74977946
>, in your underwear and using a knife and a fork as weapons if you're good enough
Nope, its not dark souls.

You can get real good in MH, but your gear is really important throughout. And at the late game your gear might well be "underpants of the war god, channel the vengeful souls of the damned to give the strength of a demon"

>> No.74978033

>>74977946
>Hey, the game is about KILLING those kaiju
And Asura's wrath is about punching the ruler of the universe in the face really hard. Your point?

>> No.74978065

>>74977914
Seeing as all lore for 40K is written in-setting, it's just as valid/unreliable as a pokedex or MonHun flavor text

>> No.74978092

>>74977889
If it's one Astartes with no gear it could die a tough enough monster, and even with Power Armor, I would think that some monsters from Monster Hunter would be as tough as the Mega Arachnids from the planet Murder.
The thing is, monsters in monster hunter behave more like wild animals and less like engineered machines of planetary destruction, and Astartes would hardly be ambushed alone, unarmed and with his pants down.
Shara Ishvalda looks pretty Chaos tainted if you ask me.
And the hunters are apparently posthuman at least, because they sure are not baseline anymore. Maybe it's the enviroment, though.

>> No.74978095

>>74977864
The pokedex is a more reliable and consistent source of information than anything GW has published desu

>> No.74978123

>>74977776
It's lost technology to create artificially, but perhaps enough nargacuga parts could give them Evade Up?

>> No.74978130

>>74978018
While you are right that it is important, my point stands. It is even the opening and running gag in MH4, the new hunter manage to scare away an Elder Dragon while wearing only underwear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nowz_0-GgQk

>> No.74978155

>>74978033
This has nothing to do with that game, anon. Are you high?

>> No.74978209

>>74978065
>>74978095
I guess the entire thread was pointless then.
I miss the days when we would just try to mix the lores in a fun way instead of trying to see which setting is the best ever.
Capcomians and Felynes on the Imperial Guard, stowaway Elder Dragons, exported wildlife. It was fun.

>> No.74978221

>>74978123
I dunno, marines are pretty retarded, I think they'd have a tough time even learning how to evade. You'd probably be better off teaching an Ork, they love learning new ways to fight. I bet before too long you'd have Hunta Boys being led on Elder WAAAAGHs by Gild Gits and G(ork) Rank Nobs

>> No.74978241

>>74977743
You're just trolling at this point. Elder Dragons would be banished back to the warp if even that.

>> No.74978249

>>74978209
>I miss the days when we would just try to mix the lores in a fun way instead of trying to see which setting is the best ever.
/tg/ always wanked off to power level dickwaving and would only try the incorporate lore if it remained subservient to 40K lore. You'd never see 40Kids incorporate anything that could beat a space marine because it triggers them to admit things can

>> No.74978281

>>74978092
That's what I'm saying. If we're talking your average monster vs a typical Astartes (with their gear), then yeah, the marine takes the cake. The problem is that if they try to work their way up the food chain they're going to have major issues keeping up. The typical hunter is probably on par with them considering the ludicrous strength and durability of hunters in the setting. It's silly, yes, but again we aren't talking about how believable the writing is. This is just slapping two setting together and seeing what happens. Sometimes a setting really is just scaled to a different level. If I tossed a bunch of Dune characters into 40k I wouldn't get salty because they couldn't keep up with the marines even with access to precience/the voice/Bene Gesserit training. The same is true here. Just because they aren't as strong as the elite hunters isn't and indictment of them, it's just where they sit on the scale of that universe.

The original question was "How would a group of Astartes fare in the Monster Hunter world?" and the answer is: Decently, and would likely make for a fairly average to perhaps above average group of hunters.

>> No.74978284

>>74978241
A single Dalamadur could easily wipe out a fleet and god knows what a fully grown xenojiiva is capable of when a newborn was a continent spanning threat

>> No.74978288

>>74977914
I still can't get over how y'all don't take it all as canon. pokémon are strong as fuck, monster hunters and the kaiju are strong as fuck, adeptus astartes and especially primaris marines are strong as fuck. All these settings seem to be far flung worlds within the Imperium of man, probably a whole sector that fights orkz using pokémon and that's the war Lt. Surge fought in: an ork invasion two systems over, the whole Kanto 4th was deployed to zzap those orkz back into dust with their electric pokémon. And 40k is just that widespread and disparate at this point in time.

>> No.74978291

>>74977777
Those are powerful lucky numbers, but you are wrong.
The description means nothing, the unwashed cavemen that wrote those legends don't even know what a star is. And apparently neihter does you.

>> No.74978297

>>74977760
>>74977782
Fucking radical

>> No.74978331

>>74978281
Hunters are the descendants of genetically altered superweapons designed specifically to fight elder dragons that do not care about such things as the laws of physics. Then they turn the elder dragons into codpieces and socks to take on other elder dragons with.

>> No.74978395

>>74978291
>can craft a fully functional chainsaw or electric guitar out of a zapdog's penisbone and some scraps of fur
>"unwashed cavemen"
Hunters/Smiths have a better understanding of science and technology than the imperium's best minds

>> No.74978470

>>74978221
They're professional soldiers who use cover all the time, not every chapter is the Black Templars.

>>74978209
Same, I've been trying to steer it that direction (Dark heresy plot hook, statting hunters in 40k, mentioning Lt Surge was IG from poor planet with a pokémon instead of a lasrifle) but my autism also will not let these insults to the Colegia Titanica stand.

>> No.74978472

>>74978249
To be fair, it's an entire galaxy versus a single planet, by putting both together Monster Hunter, or Capcom-5 as we used to call it while the fun lasted, would be one world, maybe as important as Catachan once discovered, but still just one world.

>> No.74978503

>>74978331
I'm aware. That's why I stress that we aren't talking about writing quality for either universe. I like both settings but the Monster Hunter universe is just pants on head retarded when it comes to power level. People are just used to assuming 40k is THE dumb, overpowered setting, when a plethora of other ones exist as well. I could just as easily ask who would win in a fight, an elite hunter or Master Asia from G Gundam, and I gotta say only one of the two can Kung-Fu a fucking skyscraper into the stratosphere.

For some reason people get super defensive about the stuff they like and want it to be Teh strongest Evar instead of just trying to work with it honestly. Astartes in the Monster Hunter world could be interesting. Talking about the specific threats they'd be equipped to deal with and how far up the food chain they would make it could be interesting, but instead we've got people power level wanking instead.

>> No.74978511

>>74978284
You mean of wooden ships, right? Not starships of steel and titanium and exotic metals?

>> No.74978523

>>74978395
>Hunters/Smiths have a better understanding of science and technology than the imperium's best minds
Fair enough, but their salesman tales are still bullshit and their world has some dumb legends just like ours.

>> No.74978548

>>74978511
>made out of the stuff that Dally casually drops on hunters from orbit
>oh, and the hunters survive this affair
Sounds to me like they already yeeted a starfleet or two and that Hunters are stronger than Space Marines by a wide margin, seeing as how they can essentially facetank a drop pod.

>> No.74978592

>>74978472
A planet that has long been implied to be alive on some level, albeit closer to Final Fantasy 7 or Chrono Trigger rather than, say, Pandora or various daemon worlds. It wouldn't "win" or "beat" 40K, but MonHun World would easily be too unassailable for any 40K faction to be able to wipe it out or subjugate it.

>> No.74978612

>>74978395
The Imperium's greatest minds construct and command starships that span kilometers and rule planets with populations in the quadrillions.

I also suspect the planet is an Imperial resort and the "mysterious new talented hunters" are off-worlders gaslighting everyone. I mean the Portable 3rd spa? The big game hunting? The giant racks of food? Hunters have implants and bio-mods? The "lost ancient weapon" is a fucking chainsword? It's Phantasy Star 1 all over again.

>> No.74978614

>>74978472
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Salty 40Kids have to toss out and conveniently ignore MonHun lore so they can depower Hunters to be on par with Catachan at best when they easily outrank even Primaris Marines. This is why no one likes you fags, you take anyone saying a setting operates on a higher powerlevel than 40K to be a personal attack.

>> No.74978625

>>74978612
>The Imperium's greatest minds construct and command starships that span kilometers and rule planets with populations in the quadrillions.
No, they follow blueprints from the past and plug and play. In fact, knowing how to READ a blueprint already ranks you in the top 1% of the imperium.

>> No.74978653

>>74978612
>The Imperium's greatest minds construct and command starships that span kilometers and rule planets with populations in the quadrillions.
The imperiums greatest minds couldnt make a toaster if their lives depended on it

>> No.74978655

>>74978548
Are you on exciteshrooms? How did they get into space?

>> No.74978660

>>74978625

And said ships, even when built, operate like shit because they are intentionally built without any of the automatic systems that make them function normally. Which is why it takes half and hour to prepare macrocannons to fire, they are literally dragging the ammo into place using teams of humans slaves. Instead of the autoloader that they built anyway, but can't turn on because the software that runs it is considered tech heresy.

>> No.74978669

>>74978548
The marine is fine, but pinned until the pod is moved.

>> No.74978702

>>74978592
Bro there's a fucking chainsword in MonHan, it already fucking got conquered, millennia ago. Wake up. It's an astartes and sororitas training ground, other posters already said hunters have ancient bio-mods. Read Space Wolf by William King.

>> No.74978718

>>74978291
>implying
A single MH smith could probably construct better tech than anything in the Imperium.

>> No.74978731

>>74978718
They can consistently refurbish ancient power armor, too. There's always at least one artian set.

>> No.74978732

>>74978653
The Imperium's greatest minds FUCK toasters my dude. They build toasters in metric tonnes. What is a forge world for $400, Alex?

>> No.74978742

>>74978702
>Bro there's a fucking chainsword in MonHan
lmao, that thing makes chainswords look like butter knives

>> No.74978747

>>74978732
They fuck toasters, but do they even know how to properly construct one or what a toaster even is? No.

>> No.74978764

>>74978718
>>74978731
Have you considered the smiths are tech savants descended from lost AdMech?

>> No.74978781

>>74978669

Good joke. Marines, in their armor, canonically can be killed by a simple shotgun or by an angry dude with a sharped piece of scrap metal.

>> No.74978807

>>74978747
>can build a chainsword or a lascannon of artisanal quality
>can not build a toaster in your eyes
Are you a fucking primitive? They build gilded toasters covered in angels and skulls and then put a tiny virtual fairy in it that prays to the emperor when your toast is done.

Then they fuck her in VR.

>> No.74978810

>>74977453
>>74977749
>>74977776
>>74978123
Imagine a Hunter trying to teach those framelets the Imperium calls their finest how to i-frame
>Okay newbie, so first you hold your longsword like this-
>THIS IS NO MERE 'LONGSWORD', IT IS A MASTER FORGED RELIC CHAINSW-
>Whatever dude, it's too small to be a Greatsword and since you don't have a shield or second blade, it must be longsword. So anyways, hold it like this and then when you see that Rathalos fireball coming your way that's when you-
>THIS IS WHEN I DODGE TO THE SIDE AT THE LAST MOMENT, YES?
>What? No, you dodge into the attack.
>INTO IT? IS THIS SOME PLOY TO SEEK MY DEATH
>No way newbie, you just gotta dodge into it so your i-frames take the hit.
>WHAT ARE THESE 'EYE-FRAMES' YOU SPEAK OF? THEY SOUND LIKE WITCHCRAFT
>They're just i-frames dude. You dodge, you get i-frames. Simple as that.
>THIS DEFINITELY SOUNDS LIKE HERESY TO ME
>Look newbie, I'm trying to be helpful here, but if you keep shouting that word I'm gonna report your Guild Card.
>GUILD CARD?
>You're not even REGISTERED yet?! Oh boy... Even that green fella knew how to register...

>> No.74978817

>>74972889
What would an Elder Dragon of the God Emperor look like? What about the big four?

>> No.74978849

>>74978702
See >>74978395
The difference is Smiths make their own chainswords rather than having to rely on STCs kept on Forge Worlds. They also innovate unlike the Imperium, which is how we got this bad boy that's more impressive than the entirety of the Imperium's melee arsenal. Hell, gunlances alone are more sophisticated than most of what the Imperium fields.

>> No.74978854

>>74978781
>can be killed by a shotgun from 099.M32
>simple shotgun
Nothing is simple in the 42nd millennium. Also I fucking doubt an angry dude with a piece of scrap metal can kill a marine, you're being a reductionist and the man was either a psyker or a cyberzombie or something. It's so far in the future all those "emaciated poors" in the art are actually usually security zombies and other servitors.

>> No.74978857

>>74978817
Gold Fatalis
Blood Fatalis
Blue Fatalis
Green Fatalis
DIldo Fatalis

>> No.74978873

>>74978854
>Also I fucking doubt an angry dude with a piece of scrap metal can kill a marine
Well you can doubt all you want, but marines have canonically died to some random emaciated fuck stabbing them in the side with a sharpened stick

>> No.74978885

>>74978817
It would just be Fatlais wearing their bodies like suits.

>> No.74978907

>>74978807
>They build gilded toasters covered in angels and skulls
There's a difference between knowing how to follow the instructions of a lego set and knowing how to make and mold your own legos after designing a brand new lego set from the ground up.
>>74978817
Nothing because Fatalis is more powerful than the Big Four.

>> No.74978947

>>74978849
I just see jets on a hunk of steel, does it have an energy field on it or something? The Imperium uses hover tanks and laser canons. The space inside the tank is also a virtual pocket dimension and larger than the outside of the tank.

>> No.74978962

>>74978947
>The Imperium uses hover tanks and laser canons
Hunters use hammers that shatter continents with a hit.

>> No.74978983

>>74978947
I notice you conveniently ignored where I specified melee weapons but since you asked it IS able to knock a rampaging Elder Dragon flat on its ass, which means you could use it to play baseball with a baneblade.

>> No.74979005

>>74978907
>There's a difference between knowing how to follow the instructions of a lego set and knowing how to make and mold your own legos after designing a brand new lego set from the ground up.
A 10,000 year old AdMech magos recently engineered a new race of Primaris Adeptus Astartes marines, replete with hover-tanks and newly developed power armor and weaponry for their larger size. Welcome to M42. We're "making and molding our own legos" and probably yours too.

>Nothing because Fatalis is more powerful than the Big Four.
You are a retard. Fatalis is a dragon-god, the big four are warp-entities served by twisted and tainted dragon-gods.

Also:
>>74978817
Gore/Shagaru Magala darkness and light in one frame, infectious power. Golden metamorphosis.

>> No.74979034

>>74978983
You're going to look at the hover-tank's transcendental virtual interior and then tell me some ork 'uge-rokkit-choppa can knock a fucking baneblade around? We don't even know what size power-plant these things have, they're all TARDIS-tech.

>> No.74979043

>>74979034
And Hunters can instant transmission to any location that has a campfire nearby. Cry some more.

>> No.74979148

>>74978849
>Hell, gunlances alone are more sophisticated than most of what the Imperium fields.
Okay so a break-action revolver inside a pointy stick is more sophisticated than an automatic rifle? How's this guardian spear stack up compared to your voodoo stick with it's detachable box magazine and automatic bolt?

>> No.74979190

>>74978962
Then how come they don't shatter continents with a hit? Is it made of super-ground? You sure they weren't being poetic and you're a fucking autist taking poetic descriptions too literally?

>>74979043
With a farcaster or a wing-drake you mean. Because you grapple a wing-drake to do that. Farcasters are hypertech I'll admit, they're from Hyperion by Dan Simmons and link planets like the eldar webway. And they make them from exciteshrooms and bomb casings... how...?

>> No.74979239

>>74979043
Unless you mean Bloodborne hunters, but that's a suicide and you give up all your blood echoes. Unless you burn a bold hunter's mark to reawaken. But they use lanterns, not campfires, you're thinking Dark Souls?

Ever notice how odogaron looks like a blood-starved beast finished ripping it's skin off by the way? Didn't titty-wyvern in the research hall say these things came from strange gods? Could they all be warp-entities who traveled the dimensions in between worlds like behemoth or the lishen?

>> No.74979262

>>74979148
I like how you specifically chose the very lowest end example to justify your retardation. Very cute.

>>74979190
>Then how come they don't shatter continents with a hit?
Same reason why Dalamadur doesn't reduce half the planet to a burning scorched wreck when it summons literal star chunks. Magic.

>> No.74979266

>>74979239
.Ever notice how odogaron looks like a blood-starved beast finished ripping it's skin off by the way? Didn't titty-wyvern in the research hall say these things came from strange gods? Could they all be warp-entities who traveled the dimensions in between worlds like behemoth or the lishen?
It's all linked by tyranids and genestealers anon, fear the old blood. By the gods anon, fear it.

>> No.74979302

>>74979262
Gunlances hold like three shots and have a second barrel for the wyvernfire shot. It's a break action revolver with two barrels. It's just a fucking over-under with a cylinder on the small-bore... That's like 1600s shit.

>> No.74979346

>>74979302
And those lances would still crush an astartes like a beer can. You underestimate the sheer size, velocity of the shots fired or how fast hunters can reload gunlances.

>> No.74979368

>>74978209

>> No.74979381

>>74978614
So it's ok when you do it?

>> No.74979397

>>74979381
Not him, but 40kids have done this for fucking years m8. It's only relatively recently that there's been pushback form people against 40k wank using other settings.

>> No.74979403

>>74978962
>Hunters use hammers that shatter continents with a hit.
Show us a hunter doing that.
Or did you read that on the weapon description and just believed it?

>> No.74979404

>>74979262
And so then have you considered the god-wizard who cloned himself 20 times and then made implants from the clones could perhaps also have passed some of his magic down through his gene-seeds? Because there are space-marines who can do that kind of star-call crap, they're called Librarians and they can summon warp-storms and bio-lightning. They usually don't fuck with sorcery as it's heresy, but they could look in a forbidden book to summon a meteor if the God-Emperor commanded it. They HAVE wizards, powerful and ancient ones. There's like 4000+ chapters based on 20+ legions, space marines can do fucking ANYTHING.

That's why I keep saying especially after reading about >>74975799
>the second was genetic modification to humans to make them fight on par with the dragons
>the mods were on a cellular level to increase strength, speed, stamina and focus. average joes were heaving around 500lb swords like kids swing a stick
makes me think they're just already space marines post-implants, pre-armor, training to become scouts by killing monsters to keep the feral tribes safe, sworn to secrecy, usually they'd eventually leave the planet and be fully inducted but a bigger and badder threat keeps showing up so they keep putting it off.

>> No.74979422

>>74979397
Both sides are not fun.

>> No.74979424

>>74979404
Now THIS is 40k wank.

>> No.74979435

>>74979422
I have more fun talking crazy MonHun lore than whatever this is >>74979404

>> No.74979510

>>74979368
See this is what I like. Crazy assholes harder to kill than catachan jungle fighters at worst, space marines on training quest that goes Star Wars trilogy at best. Future chapter masters, primarchs, Illuminati-starseed and The God-Emperor of Mankind kinda spirit-quest "this was my past life, child, I died and became even stronger" kinda shit.

Whys Inquisitor Obi-Wan Sherlock Clousseau so fucking OP after all? Is not that what Obi-Wan said before Vader cut him down?

>> No.74979528

>>74978614
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuFlRs6KQMU&ab_channel=MemeFountain

>> No.74979626

>>74979424
40k is an unironic everything-wank, what's not OP in 40k? Even coomer bugpeople are overpowered as fuck, they'll just have basedboys throw themselves off of cliffs on your communications, artillery and lines. Some fucking bald feminist and her foot-goblin wretch companion can crush a tank with their minds and eventually entire planets are lost to these bugmen trying to fucking c-c-cum in everything they can get their BLM rape-gangs onto.

>> No.74979887

>>74979368
Warhammer 40,000 is a mystery religion.

>> No.74980143

>>74979435
>lore
That's your mistake. You should talk facts.
Monster Hunter is cool enough without relying on legends. The stuff hunters and monsters actually do is already awesome.
The idea of a hunter riding a partner Brachydios and punching a tank open is way cooler than elder dragons that "created the crucible of life" or "created the Emperor and Chaos and everything else". Too much power is boring.

>> No.74980190

>>74976414
>You're not passing those off as abhuman, those are straight up xenos
Biomechanical servitors made from cats rather than humans, Inquisitor!

>> No.74980200

>>74979381
The difference is it's actually true in this case, 40Kids just can't handle the truth.

>> No.74980282

>>74980190
Sanctioned xenos are already a thing

>> No.74980355

>>74980143
>You should talk facts.
>NOOOO LORE CANT BE FACTUAL! STOP! STOP PSOTING LORE REEEEEEEE
Go jump off a bridge and make my day, kid.

>> No.74980426

>>74980355
Lore that is not shown is boring.

>> No.74980457

>>74980426
And yet half this board is dedicated to 40K lore.

>> No.74980461

Space Marines canonically sit around farting at each other and giggling about it like a bunch of five year olds, probably not comprehending that no one except themselves can smell it due to their closed air systems.

>> No.74980474

>>74980461
The Imperial Fists also canonically eat shit as a coming of age ceremony when your geneseed finally sets in.

>> No.74980515

>>74980355
Are you telling me that the weapon descriptions are all canon?
This bullshit is all 100% true and not just primitive legends.

>With the first daybreak, Shah Dalamadur defined the earth by drawing the horizon.
>As sunshine came a second time, Shah Dalamadur created the fields with its feathery rays.
>Third came twilight, and Shah Dalamadur parted the golden waves and created land.
>With the fourth celestial glow, Shah Dalamadur bared his fangs and called it the wind.
>At the fifth evening glow, Shah Dalamadur created time and its coils of memory.
>With the sixth fall of darkness, Shah Dalamadur wrote joyous songs to heal our hearts.
>With the seventh deep night, Shah Dalamadur hewed mountains out of the darkness.
>With the eighth full moon, Shah Dalamadur created pillars upon which the earth would shake.
>Ninth came sunset, and Shah Dalamadur created heaven to catch the earth below.
>With the tenth heat haze, Shah Dalamadur invented fantasy, to help us find reason.
>With the eleventh night mist, Shah Dalamadur created the crucible of life.
>With the twelfth midnight, Shah Dalamadur created a river of stars for the earth to admire.
>With the thirteenth shooting stars, Shah Dalamadur gouged out caverns with his tail.
>With the fourteenth sunrise, Shah Dalamadur created the light that begins everything.

This kind of lunacy is more overpowered wankery than any 40k lore.

>> No.74980522

>>74980515
That's exactly what we've been saying, yes

>> No.74980591

>>74980515
Just popping back in to mention, again, as I did up in the thread, this isn't about the quality of writing. Stop being salty just because 40k is less "powerful" or whatever. 40k is stupid power wank but plenty of other universes out stupid it. Both major comic companies have characters with omniversal abilities and several anime have similar levels of "whoops we have no comprehension of scale" as well, such as Saint Seiya. Just accept that the universe isn't the be all end all of power level discussions and maybe try having an actual conversation next time instead of trying to jerk off your favorite property for some reason.

>> No.74980605

>>74980515
Yes. We've been saying that for this entire thread.

>> No.74980681

>>74980515
Why do all 40Kids have 40 IQ as well?

>> No.74980732

>>74980591
I don't know, the 40k freaks attempts to categorize and compartmentalize stuff can be annoying but for some reason the Monster Hunter guys keep trying to "win" for some reason.
For once the WH40k fatsos sound less stupid.

Is there a Monster Hunter tabletop RPG system anywhere?

>> No.74980760

>>74980732
>For once the WH40k fatsos sound less stupid.
Not really. MonHun chads are just trying to hammer home that the setting is retardedly over-the-top and in response 40Kucks are redefining "space marines but bigger" as ACKSHULLY IT'S AN ELDRITCH ABOMINATION GIVEN HUMAN FORM BY THE EMPEROR MAKING A DEAL WITH CHAOS AND THEN FARTING ON HIS OWN DICK

>> No.74980811

>>74980681
Kek.

>> No.74980817

>>74980732
In this case the 40k dudes are more annoying since they're incorrect. I don't mind a discussion about "Which setting is stronger." even if it's dumb. I do mind it when there is an actual answer and someone is being stubborn. That's why I used several examples earlier of settings with differing "power levels". Sometimes a fictional universe just isn't as "strong" or whatever as another. Instead of rolling with it and having fun someone invariably has to get pissy about how their stuff is just the bees knees. I'd never argue that, for instance, a Monster Hunter elder dragon could take on Sailor Moon, even if it's silly to think of the titular character punking the big bad elder. In short I'd just like people to try to be a bit more level headed about this stuff instead of clinging to their personal favorite.

>> No.74980839

>>74980760
So being over powered and dumb is a good thing now?
I really can't say who is sucking their own dick harder at this point.

>> No.74980852

>>74980839
t. seething 40kid

>> No.74980896

>>74980817
>I'd just like people to try to be a bit more level headed
> I don't mind a discussion about "Which setting is stronger." even if it's dumb.
You can't have both

>> No.74980915

It's SOP for 40kfags to try and confine any crossover to 40k powers and then diminish them to less than the actual 40k entities have. It was funny watching them try to do it to a xianxia character whose basic power is to be able to gain every power available wherever he is.

>> No.74980940

>>74980852
I'm a Monster Hunter kid, I just hate the weapon descriptions and their lies.

>> No.74980981

>>74980896
Sure you can. Say you take two settings with similar universal rules/characters and try to reason out which setting is more jank. It can be a fun thought experiment even if it's kind of dumb. That was more my point. It can be an interesting discussion but it doesn't really go anywhere typically and doesn't really lead to something nifty. It's like the popcorn flick of discussions. Entertaining but kind of braindead.

>> No.74981008

>>74980915
>How would this planet fair in the 40k galaxy
>my planet would take over because it is so much better, it is bigger than the galaxy and my dragon eats emperors every day

>> No.74981045

>>74981008
Yes.

>> No.74981059

>>74981008
>how would this planet fare in 40k if we adapt all of its special qualities into 40k ones, except downgraded so they don't outshine space marines, with no particular ability to actually function in 40k so they get corrupted by chaos instantly
You halfassedly convert them to the lowest possible scale and then stop converting when it would give them any kind of advantage or even basic functionality.

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