/tg/ - Traditional Games

DEATH GUARD

>>73788571
First for khorne

DEATHSTRIKE

>>73788571
This is the BARE MINIMUM gw expects for battle standard.

Don't even THINK about getting your +10 VP unless you can paint this well, scrubs.

>>73788577
My opinion is fact. If I don't like it, it's not allowed to exist. The system for CP is shit and should be removed from the game, with something cool and interesting like the special rules we had in 2nd to 5th edition instead.

>>73788580
FUCK

>>73788601
You say that like it’s a bad thing

Need to make the bigman look more veteran, what do?

>>73788571
I'm glad Cassius made the jump across the rubicon.

>>73788571
That purity seal looks line someone wiped their ass with it

>>73788590
second

>>73788621
Give that bitch some purity seals. Bitches love purity seals.

>>73788601
Does that mean one does not need to mess with the base?

>>73788571
Just dawned on me that if you kitbash that guy with the normal prinaris chap you can have one dual wield pistols and the other holding both crozius up ha.

Any photoshop pros out there?

>>73788624
New one is such an improvement.

>>73788630
Toilet paper is scarce on the battlefield

https://newsthump.com/2020/07/16/teenager-who-fled-the-empire-to-join-the-forces-of-khorne-the-blood-god-wins-legal-battle-to-return-to-the-imperium/?utm_source=NewsThump+Daily+Briefing&utm_campaign=98904432ec-RSS_EMAIL_DAILYBRIEFING2&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_5c4292041a-98904432ec-436035999&mc_cid=98904432ec&mc_eid=e50e441f5b

>>73788614
I'm not. Everyone can do 4 or 5 clean basecoats, and 2 washes.

>>73788596
MEME

>>73788571
Reminder to never heat-cure your Ceramite. It loses it's metallic finish and stains easily.

>>73788621
>4 vet cruces
He good senpai, paint his shoulders white, bitches love white shoulders on vets.

>>73788624
You disgust me.

>>73788660
BASED UNIT

>>73788621
Battle damage, use your drill and knife to put some hurt on it. IT NEEDS TECTUR

>>73788608
>He has opinions.
>He doesn't exist in a world solely composed of observable axiomatic truths.

>>73788624
It's not Cassius. He should of been the first to cross the Rubicon but he wasn't. Instead we got the book nerd.

Next primaris ultra marine is Cato.

in 9th, using points values, can you have understrength units in battle-forged armies and have them fulfill slots in detachments? if not, where is it said?

Sisters army focused heavily on sister squads, retributors, exorcists and immolators(maybe some units like hospitalier etc)
Y/N?
Would appreciate tips or pointers on what to run to come close to this, fav stuff from the line

What are things your opponents do that aren't required by the rules but make the game a more pleasant experience? Little niceties that aren't required but make the game more fun

POST YOUR /WIP/s or THE LAST MODEL YOU FINISHED.

>>73788621
scrolls, text, chipping, nuln EVERYWHERE

>>73788621
>Veteran redemptors.

Have fun finding new dreadnought pilots every decade loyalist.

>>73788596
>tfw you have to place your ICBM launcher on the same battlefield as the rest of your troops.
They should honestly replace the model with Munitorum command/desinator vehicle

>>73788700
It’s still this.

>>73788719
I would be okay with this if I could buy a little bunker/silo model with the missile in it that I could place on the other side of the room

>>73788700
Wip

Don’t mind me, just getting my daily salt intake.

Working on rusty crons

Alright fuckers, I got a question for you...

I created a successor Chapter to the Invaders Space Marines, who were founded and became fleet based around the Malestrom after finding an ancient Imperial ship in a space hulk, blasted it out while fighting off Tyranids, and discovered it was capable of warding off warp fuckery (but couldn't dive into the warp because of its resistance, so very slow FTL compared to normal).

I'm trying to come up with names, and I need some advice with what ya'll think might work best.

>Emerald Wings
>Tempest Runners

Final decision on the matter, but wondering what /tg/ thought.

>>73788700

>>73788571
JOIN THE GREATER GOOD

>>73788693
Why is she making the Clash of Clans and a million other mobile game icons face?

>>73788762
The latter.

>>73788734
Cool shit dude.

>>73788698
Blowjobs after a game.

>>73788727
I remember a story about a store that was running two big games in the same campaign, and one player realized that the other table was technically in range so he started shooting missiles into the other game

>>73788698
Briefly explain the lore behind their custom chapters/regiments/etc.

Give you a printed version of their list.

Use clear markers for wounds and modifiers on units. (fuck people using rubber bands, that's not helpful)

Clearly state what they're rolling for before throwing dice. (That should be common sense)

Don't eat during the game using their hands.

Laugh off their bad rolls and get hyped for good rolls on both sides.

>>73788700
But I did last thread. I will again when he's done.

Do you think Mortarion is aware of Isha’s presence within Nurgle’s Garden? If so, what does he possibly think of her and Nurgle’s treatment of her, especially considering how it mirrors how Necare treated him?

>>73788762
>marines tempestus
>typhoon warriors
>gellar masters
>stormrunners

>>73788700
Nearing completion with this lad

>>73788784
I know that's not in the actual rules, but every garagehammer group I know made "loser blows the winner" a houserule so it just seems like part of the game to me.

TODAY WE DISCUSS WHAT IS PROBABLY MY THIRD FAVORITE TYRANID UNIT OF ALL TIME (AFTER THE LICTOR AND CARNIFEX)... THE HORMAGAUNT. AND SOMEHOW IT'S PROBABLY THE THIRD MOST FUCKED TOO, ARGUABLY EVEN MORE THAN WARRIORS.

BUT WHILE A TYRANID ARMY COULD ACTUALLY FUNCTION WITHOUT LICTORS OR CARNIFEXES IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO, HORMAGAUNTS ARE CORE TROOPS. THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL TO THE IDENTITY OF TYRANIDS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THING THAT INSPIRED THE ZERGLING. YES, TERMAGANTS ARE TECHNICALLY OUR MAIN, ORIGINAL CORE TROOP, BUT PLAYING A LIST WITH TERMAGANTS AND NO HORMAGAUNTS IS FUCKING WEIRD. IT'S LIKE WEARING SNEAKERS WITHOUT SOCKS. YOU CAN DO IT, BUT YOU'RE A WEIRDO. YOU CAN PLAY A NIDZILLA LIST WITHOUT ANY OF THE LITTLE BUGGERS AS TROOPS, THAT'S FINE. BUT ONCE YOU ADD SMALL TYRANIDS TO YOUR ARMY, LEAVING OUT THE HORMAGAUNTS IS LIKE A PB&J SANDWICH WITHOUT ONE OF THE INGREDIENTS.

AS WE DISCUSSED YESTERDAY, GW MANAGED TO SCREW UP EVEN THE TERMAGANT SOMEHOW. BUT TODAY, WE TALK ABOUT HOW THEY FUCKED UP MUCH, MUCH HARDER, ON ITS LEAPING COUSIN.

>>73788698
One guy always says good luck and good game before we start. My team mate and I stomped him out in a double tourney but he was alot of fun to play against. Brought a fully painted Nidz army. Good guy for sure.

>>73788700
I swear this looks better IRL.

>>73788762
>they have a slow ship
>name the chapter after flying or running
go for something crushing and relentless planetbusting siegemongers

>>73788693
Absolutely. Sisters shine in infantry based close range shooting. Had a good time with argent Shroud retributors using their always advancing ability to make good use of heavy flamers recently. Dont have any vehicles yet but their infantry can work well independantly.

>>73788698
Make pew pew noises.

Provide narrative to in game events.

>>73788812
Probably uses her as all of the Greater Demons do as the Gardens Glory hole. Except only Nurgle himself can fill her mouth with noxious poisons. The other holes are free tho.

>>73788621
How is he a veteran. Would burn up before his 3rd deployment.

>>73788700
I used a spare banner on my Grey Knights. its a bit grainy in the top right, but I was 90% done when i fucked it up.

>>73788836
I think it looks really neat Anon

>>73788865
Because he was a veteran when interred and is the first incumbent of the dreadnought chassis and therefore has the appropriate markings.

>>73788882
all the lads so far.

>>73788854
You think he feels no sympathy towards her, especially as she still tries her hardest to help mortals with Nurgle’s plagues?

>>73788854
>Letting subordinates molest your honored guest
You have defamed Papa Nurgle's hospitality and you will get dandruff as a result. Apologize now or suffer itchy balls for a month.

Naw mate Oi’m naut a fair dinkum Aussie

Fr why would you think that

>>73788836
your dude makes mine >>73788763 look like 6th grade art projects

>>73788891
Thanks. I have almost finished the whole squad now.

>>73788828
Nid lifes matter

>>73788698
>>73788698
Bringing their own dice.
Bringing a rulebook and codex with them in some form or another.
being wysiwyg
bringing a take all comers list.
being gracious in victory and dignified in defeat.
having a sense of humor, both in case of un/lucky dice results and in general.
be good at painting.

>>73788700

>>73788926
Your dudes will look like that in no time if you practice.

>>73788734
that color scheme is groovin'

>>73788700
all I'm missing are some lightning bolts

>>73788934
No own dice = no game with me.
No codex = no game.

Srls, that's literally minimum.

>>73788926
If it's any consolation, they're not really that far apart. He's painted more colours, but it isn't that much better painted.

>>73788700
I have so many ultramarines to finish

>>73788962
>No codex = no game.
what if they brought the stats pages from the instruction books?

Got this large piece of styrofoam from a package. Any recommendations for ways to make it into decent terrain?

>>73788909
Honored Guest, Anon he kidnapped her because she'd make the perfect test subject for all of his poisons. Beyond that Nurgle doesn't care for her.

>>73788907
If he did really know about her, then on a more serious note. He would despise her above all else. She is a weakness in the garden that undermines the efforts of their blight. Then to be a mere puppet like he once once to a greater being would would trigger flashbacks and build up more hate that he would never admit the source of.

>>73788700
Need to go back and wash the last 3 exhaust pipes again to match the one on the far left, need to touch up the tusks, and still need to base it.

>>73788984
Use it like that for games of zone mortalis

>>73788984
Give us something to gauge the size

>>73788962
>No codex = no game.

What if they just bring their list on Battlescibe?

>>73788984
put a mini next to it

>>73788698
Not smelling like ass

Post Gal Vorbak

>>73788828
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT ITS STATS.

MV 6, SHOULD TRANSLATE TO MOVE 8 OR 9 YADDA YADDA, WE'VE COVERED THIS ALMOST EVERY LESSON NOW. AND YES IT HAS MV 8. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY GW IS INCONSISTENT WITH THIS AND GIVES SOME BUGS 8 LIKE HORMS AND GENESTEALERS, AND SOME BUGS 9 LIKE TYRANTS (BEFORE THEY GET KNEECAPPED FROM RETARDED DEGRADING STATLINE) AND LICTORS, AND SOME FUCKING BUGS 7 OR 6 THAT SHOULD BE IN THE 8 OR 9 RANGE, BUT I GUESS MAYBE THEY GAVE AN EXTRA +1" OF MOVEMENT TO THE ONES WITH REALLY HIGH INITIATIVE. I SUPPOSE THAT MAKES SENSE, TYRANTS AND LICTORS BOTH HAD INITIATIVE 8. SURE OKAY.

MOVING ON. WEAPON SKILL 4, SAME AS A SPACE MARINE. SHOULD TRANSLATE TO WEAPON SKILL 3+ TODAY, BUT IT DOESN'T. ARE YOU TIRED OF HEARING ME REPEAT THIS FOR ALMOST EVERY SINGLE FUCKING NID UNIT? I'M REAL TIRED OF SAYING IT.

SERIOUSLY EVEN IF THEY CHANGED THIS ONE THING I WOULD HAVE A LITTLE MORE FAITH IN GW THAT THIS WASN'T INTENTIONALLY MALICIOUS. BUT I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE IF YOU WOKE UP ONE DAY TO A NEW SPACE MARINE CODEX AND EVERY SINGLE UNIT HAD -1 TO HIT ADDED TO ALL OF THEIR WEAPONS. WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THIS?

IT ALSO HAD STRENGTH 4. WHICH IN 2ND EDITION ALSO MEANT -1 AP. BOTH OF THOSE ARE GONE. BECAUSE FUCK MELEE. IT'S REALLY GETTING ANNOYING TO HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF OVER AND OVER. YOU KNOW THIS ISN'T A FLUKE WHEN IT'S THE WHOLE FUCKING BOOK AND NOT JUST ONE OR TWO UNITS.

EQUAL INITIATIVE TO MARINES, ANOTHER ADVANTAGE DISAPPEARED WITH TIME.

2 ATTACKS WOW YEAH THEY ACTUALLY KEPT THAT. INCREDIBLE! AND THIS WAS BACK WHEN MARINES HAD ONLY A SINGLE ATTACK.

NO ARMOUR SAVE. NOW THEY GET A 6+.

SO THEY LOST 1 WS, 1 STRENGTH, 1 AP ON THEIR MELEE, THE BONUS ADVANTAGE INITIATIVE GAVE THEM OVER THINGS LIKE GUARD AND ORKS, AND THEY GAINED A USELESS 6+ SAVE THAT INSTANTLY DISINTEGRATES AGAINST ANY WEAPON WITH AP SO WHY EVEN BOTHER.

>>73788642
there should already be enough primaris arms with pistols to dual wield
dual wielding crozius would be funny though

>>73788894
>>73788882
can you please put these next to some newer marines or primaris if you have some? I need a good laugh at the scale creep.

great painting by the way.

>>73788984
Centerpiece for Mordheim. You surround that with two/three-story buildings with bridges and platforms between them.
Make sure you lacquer it after painting for durability. Something that won't melt it to shit, I mean.

>>73788977
They're still missing the stratagems, warlord traits, core rules, subfaction rules and any potential psychic powers anon.

*Siiiiiiiiip*
Yep, I'm thinking that BL recent SoB output has been amazing. Still to come is an Ephrael novel and a Bloody Rose novella where they invade a planet. Some comfy reading times coming up.

>>73789009
>shadows of those taking the picture

Yesterday someone told me that every guardsman in the universe was on Cadia when it exploded.

Man, some people on here are retarded.

>>73789030
Those are unnecessary.

>>73788799
>people using rubber bands
What?

>Clearly state what they're rolling for before throwing dice. (That should be common sense)
I've had people complain about me and others who do this. E.g. I'll say:

> Right, this Neophyte squad will fire their autogun shots into your Fire Warriors. As they're Rapid Fire 1, they fire two shots as they're within 12 inches. 4s to hit."
> roll dice, pick out all the misses, leaving all the hits clear for them to see. Give a moment for them to check the roll.
> "Right, that's x hits, so now I'll roll to wound. You're Toughness 3 and the shots are Strength 3, so it'll be 4s to wound."
> roll dice, pick out all the failed wounds, leaving all the hits clear for them to see. Give a moment for them to check the roll.
> "Autoguns are AP0, so you make your armour save as normal."

The person who complains about this says stuff like "it slows down the game", or "everyone knows Neophytes hit on 4+, and autoguns are S3."

>>73789002
That's faggotry, and I'm pretty sure Battlescribe doesn't include all the rules and stratagems.

>>73788995
>>73789003
This is the other half. With belisarius cawl sitting on it.

>>73789020
Yeah, I am starting to understand SN ANON, now. He's necessary because the 'Nids are often mistreated by GW and others, so 'Nid players do benefit from having a big presence being on their side.

This edition is shaping up to be the worst of all time

>>73789060
Holy fuck. That’s big.

Just use it as zone mortalis, or Necromunda if you play that.

>>73788700
It's still this squad, I'm sorry.

>>73789060
Just keep in mind as well that most things will destroy it if you spray it with them.

>>73788781
>>73788953
Thanks, fan of the Nihilahk Dynasty. Like to fluff that the Phaeron made a deal with Szeras. Every piece of himself he allows one of their Crypteks to ornate with their riches earns him 0.7% more captives at the end of battle.

>>73789042
They're also typically missing the statlines for any heavy or special weapons they could potentially be carrying unless they're playing primaris or necrons.

>>73789020
How do I start contributing to 2E revival? I already started shilling 2e to my 40k buddy who got me into the game and I plan to play a game in the near future (he's CSM/DG).

>>73789050
>Talking before rolling
Talk while rolling, that helps.

>>73789067
Dare I say he's the Shadow in the 'chan?

>>73789003
cut that shit into like 4 or something, and trim down the inside so you can put models in it, and you have some nice cover

>>73789050
Some people use small rubber bands to track wounds, it's handy since you can just hang them on any limbs on bigger monsters.

We need a whole novel from the perspective of a genestealer cult

>>73789070
How could you possibly think that? Aside from the points increase fucking pretty much everyone. Some WAY more than others, Almost all the rules are built upon and better than what we had in 8th. Please go into details, or else you're just another shit/doompster.

>>73788984
Well, do you want a board for necromunda? Congrats. Otherwise: Cut it into smaller pieces, roll with a ball made of tinfoil over it to gibt it a structure and apply some undercoat that prevents your acrylic paint from soaking and then spray/brush it. Add texture paint (don´t be a retard and make your own from wood glue/ acrylic paint and fine sand instead of buying overpriced gw shit) to it and you can make some nice mazes out of it.

>>73789079
>>73789027
Yeah I think I’d probably cover it in a thin layer of plaster or something before I Painted it.
>>73789073
>>73788994
Currently I’ve been using it for kill team games. I think it needs more cover for things that climb up on walls and stuff

>>73789020
>BUT I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE IF YOU WOKE UP ONE DAY TO A NEW SPACE MARINE CODEX AND EVERY SINGLE UNIT HAD -1 TO HIT ADDED TO ALL OF THEIR WEAPONS. WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THIS?
well yes, but then I don't play SM

>>73789077
Atop painting your autistic jaundiced adidas minis

>>73788723
You've been stuck a while on that guy. I suggest starting on another project until this one comes back to you. Paint something else, or if you're completely burnt out on painting right now, build something else. Or if you don't wanna do that either, do something free, spend some time putting together a list for a theoretical army you may one day start on.

I believe in you, heretical scumbag.

>>73788926
Oh shit, I didn't realize someone else was doing red Thousand Sons here.

I get the armour done quickly so I can spend time on the details. I am not really very good but I really make sure the details are done. I spent the longest time on the white and it still looks shit.

>>73789106
>>73789060

>>73789050
You could just do this instead:

>20 shots due to Rapid Fire,
Roll dice
> hitting on 4s
Remove dice and roll again
> wounding on 4s
Remove dice
> X wounds left, AP0, what's your armour save?

Way faster, no need to go step by step.

>>73789106
Yeah I’ve been considering chopping it up Something kinda cool about it being one big solid piece tho.

>>73789050
I get them involved with the discussion when I do this, instead of saying "You're toughness 3" I ask them what the toughness of their models is and then work from there, I feel if someone is involved in the math they feel less like a spectator being lectured.

it also makes spotting cheaters really easy because i've memorised basically every relevant statline by this point thanks to collecting special edition codexes for all armies, even ones I don't even play

fuck you they look cool.

>>73788847
That's encouraging, anon
Really would like to have 10 retributors barrel out of a rhino into the enemy lines and blocks of sisters trudging behind armor as the exorcist blares inspiring hymns

>>73789100
Email [email protected]

>>73789144
like others said, use it for nigromunda or similar if that's what you want to do

>>73789070
t.started in 8th

>>73789009
BUT WARHAMMER IS FOR WVERYONE NOT JUST THOSE WITH GOOD HYGIENE

>>73788984
>Necromunda Zone Mortalis board.jpg
It actually is a nice centerpiece for small games if you cut a few pathways into it and maybe add a catwalk or something.

>>73788779
>>73788821
>>73788844
Thanks for the advice, anons!

>>73789070
That's 6th edition though.

>>73789020
IF YOU WOKE UP TO A SPACE MARINE CODEX WITH WS/BS 4+, STRENGTH 3 MELEE AND BOLTGUNS, BUT A 2+ ARMOUR SAVE, WOULD YOU ACCEPT THAT?

HOW ABOUT IF THEY ALSO COSTED FUCKING 50% MORE POINTS ON TOP OF THAT??? NOW YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A TYRANID PLAYER. OH WAIT, NO, WE DIDN'T GET INTO THE BEST PART!!

LEAPING. HORMAGAUNTS HAD A LEAPING ABILITY. WHEN THEY RAN/CHARGED, THEY ADDED AN EXTRA 6" OF MOVEMENT, AND THIS 6" COULD BE USED TO CLEAR OBSTACLES AND TERRAIN WITHOUT SLOWING THEM DOWN. THIS BROUGHT THEIR TOTAL CHARGE DISTANCE UP TO 18", IN AN EDITION WHERE A SPACE MARINE COULD CHARGE 8". MORE THAN DOUBLE.

LET US COMPARE NOW. A HORMAGAUNT MOVES 8", AND CHARGES... 2D6" LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. SO A MAXIMUM OF 20" THREAT RANGE, OR AVERAGE OF 15".

SPACE MARINES/GUARDSMEN ETC. MOVE 6", AND ALSO CHARGE 2D6". MAXIMUM OF 18" THREAT RANGE, OR AVERAGE OF 13".

OUR MAXIMUM MOVEMENT SPEED DIFFERENTIAL WENT FROM 125% FASTER AT MAXIMUM.... TO 11% FASTER. HOLY FUCK. ARE YOU FUCKING SHITTING ME? THIS IS ACCEPTABLE? OH RIGHT ALSO BOTH OF THOSE UNITS ARE JUST AS FAST AS US CHARGING FROM DEEP STRIKE TOO.

HURRHURR BUT WE GET TO PILE IN AND CONSOLIDATE AN EXTRA 3"! AFTER FIGHTING WITH NERFED WEAPON SKILL, NERFED STRENGTH, AND NERFED AP, AND YOU HAVE 2/3RDS AS MANY HORMAGAUNTS BECAUSE THEY COST MORE THAN GUARDSMEN IN 9TH EDITION WHEN THEY USED TO BE 80% OF THE POINTS COST!

YEAH THEY WERE FUCKING 80% THE COST OF A GUARDSMAN, 26.6% THE COST OF A TACTICAL MARINE. AND THEY WERE BETTER OFFENSIVELY THAN A TACTICAL MARINE IN CLOSE COMBAT (SAME WS, STRENGTH, AP, INITIATIVE, BUT 2 ATTACKS) WITH MORE THAN TWICE THE MOVE SPEED TO GET THERE!

HOW DO YOU NERF A UNIT THIS FUCKING BADLY? ITS NOT LIKE THEY WERE OVERPOWERED. THEY STILL DIED IN DROVES IN 2E. YOU WERE PULLING HORMS OFF THE TABLE LEFT AND RIGHT. THEY HAD TOUGHNESS 3 AND NO ARMOUR SAVE. THEIR ONLY DEFENSE WAS A -1 TO HIT THEM FROM RUNNING FAST. A FLAMER TEMPLATE WOULD JUST CHUNK THESE LITTLE BASTARDS. BUT THEY WERE FUN!

>>73789164
If you're going to be spending several hours in a room with fellow nerds you should at least clean yourself before leaving.

>>73789077
So much of this is really bad.

So I managed to pick up some BNIB Finecast Fire Dragons for £13, postage included.

However, apparently the only thing that's not BNIB about them is that the seller has already glued the Exarch with a Firepike (a shitty weapon that adds 6" to the range of their gun for 20pts, but otherwise no changes).

See pic related.

How do I "unglue" the Finecast? Am I stuck with this loadout?

>>73788580
Death Guard Terminators!

>Framed by a cowl of shimmering light and the traceries of his intricate collar, Szarekh – heralded as the last and greatest of the Silent Kings, and undisputed overlord of the necron race – wore a golden mask fashioned into the likeness of our Lord Sanguinius.
does GW remember this?

>>73789204
hobby knife
be sure to wear protection so the resin doesn't throatfuck you

>>73789124
I did stop painting them. They're done. I'm moving onto my Zephyrim next.

I don't know why you keep calling them jaundiced, but I guess you're just trying to insult me for whatever reason.

And damn, did those Adidas stripes personally hurt you or something? Live a little, anon. It's not like you'd even see them on the tabletop.

>>73789204
just cut the pike's barrel and swap it hurr

>>73789217
evidently not

>>73789178

>>73789130
White is hard as fuck to do since you either do it perfectly or it turns into blackboard chalk. You have to be tricky and avoid the pure whites. Lots of people use light light grey and clean it up with a white layer.

In my case, I just paint everything off-white/bone. Looks a little more fitting honestly.

>>73789206
I'm stealing that half nurgling submerged in a pool idea

>>73789204
I would ignore >>73789228 and >>73789240


Put it in the freezer for a few hours, it should deal with the Superglue

>>73789189
Yeah, that one anon keeps telling me that. I am not a huge fan of painting non-armoured humans.

>>73788698
Reminds you of things you missed or rules you got wrong.
Being a good sport and not bitch at the dice at every turn.
Not screaming "ROLL TWOS" when you roll the dice (one guy loves to do this every time I roll and it's really fucking annoying)

>>73789234
>I don’t know why you keep calling them jaundiced

Because of the yellow skin, Anon. The other minis in the photo seem to have decent skin tones, so it’s not a messed up camera- that one has yellow skin.

And this is the first post I’ve made criticising your minis. I keep seeing them, and they’re shit.

Thinking about starting a little Iron Warriors force, but I have a policy to avoid any and all finecast, so Warpsmith is out for my HQ. What do I want instead? Disco Lord seems expensive and huge for what will only be a little side army. Was thinking Terminator Lord, but I'm open to suggestions.

>>73789178
Honestly I have no idea why hormagaunts don't get the same buffs to charge distance that howling banshees get.

I've no fucking idea why a lot of nid units are as relentlessly shit as they are, sure every army has its share of units that have been bad since 2nd~3rd like swooping hawks or terminators or kroot carnivores but with nids its most of the roster.

which is disappointing because nids look very cool and they'd be fun to play both as and against if they played like hordes.

>>73789284
Convert a warpsmith?

>>73789204
superglue really isn't hard to unglue, just stick it in a freezer then snap it off.

>>73789267
>>73789306
Cool, thanks for that. I'll try that out before taking a knife to it.

I do need to learn how to add-on sculpt to Finecast though - my army is all-female, so I plan on changing the breastplate (a la the female Guardian Defenders torsos). No idea how to best sculpt those without it looking comical, I've never done GS sculpting before.

>>73789217
>Undisputed overlord

>>73789164
There's nothing stopping you showering and washing your clothes. Letting those with bad hygiene in, who are entirely capable of changing their ways, is driving everyone with dignity out. If you don't stand up to people who want to edge everyone out then the game will only be for the bad actors. Therefore to have a game for everyone it is necessary to have reasonable limits.

>>73789292
>Honestly I have no idea
>I've no fucking idea
let me give you a little hint

>>73788989
While I do admit that he would hate her at first for still holding on and trying to help others in the face of absolute defeat, would said hatred really last forever? I mean, Morty hates himself for giving up and submitting to Nurgle, so seeing somebody else, even if they are a damned Xeno, still try to maintain their integrity and help others might give him the hope that not all is lost

>>73789244
wonder how many funny looks I'll get if I buy Sanguinary Guard and use their head on the necron dude

>>73788700
Hot off the presses my Dominions

What are the chances we'd see a SC for sisters featuring something like 10 sisters, 1 immolator/exorcist kit and 1 HQ late winter/early spring?
Cost of getting into the army seems steep

>>73788580
/COOFGANG/

>>73789217
That was just some pretender.

>>73789178
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF ALL - THIS WASN'T A FLUKE. THE DESIGNER DIDN'T JUST SLAP THESE STATS ON RANDOMLY AND CALL IT A DAY AND REALIZE LATER, OH WHOOPS, TYRANIDS ARE OVERPOWERED.

NO, SEE WE KNOW THIS BECAUSE BACK THEN, WHEN CODEXES HAD SOUL, THEY HAD AN ENTIRE FUCKING SECTION ON TACTICS AND HOW TO PLAY THEM WELL. AND IT DISCUSSED THE FINER POINTS OF EACH ARMIES STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES, LEARNED THROUGH PLAYTESTING, AND CONVEYED TO US THE DESIGNER'S INTENT ON HOW SHIT WAS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

LET'S SEE WHAT IT HAS TO SAY ABOUT HORMAGAUNTS IN THE CLOSE COMBAT SECTION. OH. I SEE. THEY SHOULD SHRED OPPOSING TROOPS "ALMOST AS EASILY AS GENESTEALERS, FOR ONE THIRD THE POINTS COST - POTENTIALLY ABLE TO KILL 3 TIMES AS MANY TROOPS AS GENESTEALERS IN A THIRD OF THE TIME."

SO THEY ARE NOT, AND NEVER WERE, A FUCKING "TARPIT UNIT". TERMAGANTS AND RIPPERS ARE THE TARPIT. HORMAGAUNTS ARE MEANT TO FUCKING.

KILL.

YOUR.

SHIT.

DEAD.

AND DO IT FAST.

BECAUSE TYRANIDS - WAIT FOR IT...

ARE A FUUUUUUUUUUCKING
MEEEEEEELEEEEEEEE
RAAAAAAAAAAAAACE

YOU FUCKING WHORE'S SONS AT GW, YOU STUPID FUCKING HALF-OGRYN SCUMBAGS!

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!

>>73789292
How do terminators seem bad to you?

>>73788700
Current /wip/ want to add the black, bone and flesh colors today

>>73789251
I chopped one in half and put his butt on another base.

Should I buy 2 telemons and 1 sword and shield contemptor.
or 1 telemon and 1 of each contemptor for custodes.

>>73789206

more termies

>>73789322
It was a joke, Anon.

Nobody cares nid anon, hope your jobber faction gets squatted or rendered even more useless

I've never messed around with making models beyond simply following the instructions the boxes come with. I've got a box of the new CSM troops and some Havoc weapons, how hard would it be to put the reaper chaincannon and an autocannon from the Havoc box onto two of my marines?

>>73789109
Every single change to the rules is a continuation of the same design trends that made 8th bad.

>>73789335
0%

>>73789392
>nobody cares
Cope

>>73788700

>>73789377
1 telemon and one of each contemptor

Telemons are supposed to be so rare it wouldn't be right to field two in one game

>>73789324
How badly did he lose that game all those years ago for him to hate Tyranids like this

>>73789375
You forgot a few more metallic parts, anon
Namely, the helmet spikes, the circle on the side of the helmet and the valve in his chest.

>>73789370
>BECAUSE TYRANIDS - WAIT FOR IT...

>ARE A FUUUUUUUUUUCKING
MEEEEEEELEEEEEEEE
RAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
Tell that to the Dual-Devourer nid players I saw in 4/5th
>HAHA I REROLL HITS AND WOUNDS ON MY 6 DAKKA FEX AND 2 DAKKA THE TYRANTS.
Watched an Ork player ragequit the whole game because he was given an extra 500 points and didn’t kill a single one in 2 turns.

>>73789409
>not sending one telemon up front and deep striking another in the back.

>>73789217
What the fuck do you mean? This is how Sanguinius always looked like

How's 9th edition?

>>73789397
Anon plz

>>73789395
Thats not details like I asked, thats just more shitposting. Those rules are changed and fixed somewhat, probably for the better. That does not make 9th a worse edition than 8th, and so not the worst edition ever. 8th had problems, but I still say overall was better than 7th. You can dislike the direction GW went with 8th, and thats fine, but stop the doomposting.

>>73789392
A LOT MORE PEOPLE CARE ABOUT TYRANIDS THAN CARE ABOUT A WORTHLESS RANDO LIKE YOU.

>>73789292
>sure every army has its share of units that have been bad since 2nd~3rd like swooping hawks or terminators or kroot carnivores but with nids its most of the roster.
FUCKING EXACTLY! IT ISN'T A GODDAMN ACCIDENT WHEN IT'S THE ENTIRE FUCKING CODEX. CRUDDACE NEEDS TO BE FIRED. HE NEEDED TO BE FIRED OVER 6 FUCKING YEARS AGO, BUT THE FACT THAT HE'S STILL THERE FUCKING SHIT UP NOW EVEN AFTER WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN A FRESH START WITH 8TH EDITION IS UNBELIEVABLE.

>>73789453
Too early to say. Both sides are talking atm.

>>73789439
I can't believe gold was brass all along to the imperium

>>73789392
Back to playing Ultramarine Primaris for you, loser

>>73789412
rumour has it that cruddace's /yourdudes/ were stationed on Tyran

>>73789009

So when is the store shutting down, given that its going to exile all of its customers?

>>73789433
>4th5th
He addressed that. Nids were already being shat on back then, and dakkafexes were pretty much the way you had to play them.

>>73788715
That picture is hilarious, did you make it yourself?

>>73788812
>Ynnari next goal is to free Isha
>Isha starts to send Mortarion dreams and visions to manipulate him
>unintentionally she gives him a mental therapy, basically what bigE should have done since the begining to help him get over his mental complex
>his realtionship with Isha and Nurgle is a big freudian oedipus complex
>also it retcons some Horus heresy shit, Horus kept him in shadow about his pack with deamons and with help of Typhus they made him believe HH was a popular uprising against tyranical bigE who was about to get them Thunder warriors treatment, by the time Morty saw through it too was late. He realized his wrongdoing and wanted to go to Terra to join loyalist but Typhus betreyed him and send the ship into warp
>meanwhile Slaanesh is gathering forces to finally get Isha and in charge of his armies he puts Fulgrim
>Nurgle charges Typhon to lead his armies, at the end, Mortarion was just the throphy
>Morty gets his shit together, rebels against Nurgle and invades gardens of Nurgle to set Isha free
>at this moment Ynnari invade too
>
>Ynnari and eldars gets their god free
>Fulgrim is back with his own goals
>Morty gets his soul back, steals some Nurgle powers and leads a rebeling faction against Nurgle and keeps war against Imperium to build himself his own realm of positive Nurgle traits (but being warp corrupted it is still cancer riden rotten hellhole)

is this too lazy for an eradicator

>>73789217
He did that just to mock Dante you numbnuts.

>>73789489
I’d allow once you sort out the Melta piping.

>>73789421
Oh shit thanks bruv didn’t even see those, I’ll clean those up today as well

>>73789376
Now you're thinking with portals!

>>73789489
Should at least be in gravis

>>73789489
Doesn't look Gravis enough.

>>73789507
Good lad

>>73789374
loyalist tac termies don't put out much damage and aren't very tough.

loyalist assault termies can put out a lot of damage but again aren't super durable.

chaos gets good termies, the death guard termies are borderline unkillable and have decent weapon options while thousand sons termies are psychic and carrying better guns meaning they can actually hurt things in the shooting phase.

standard chaos terminators meanwhile can get chainaxes for pennies instead of lugging around expensive power fists or lightning claws so they're somewhat efficient on a point/wound basis, they're what, 26 ppm for a 2+ 5++ with a combi bolter and a chainaxe for S5 AP-1 attacks so they compare favourably to primaris.

>>73789507
>and the eye lenses
>all tertiary colours

>>73789489
looks good
gravis is gay

>>73789335
Unlikely, but one of those big Christmas boxes is reasonably likely.

>>73789392
you try every thread, just hide the post and move on

>>73789270
they look alright to me anon, people here can be harsh. The only issue I have with them is you didn't paint the armour pucks metal so it looks like they have a really bad case of ringworm.

>>73789370
sna, what's "sealed armour"? I have heard this was a thing in 2e that could kill units before they hit the table

>>73789528
Fuck I’m blind

>>73789475
I mean, most US stores are shutting down right about now

as CSM, would it make sense to go brigade now to get more HQs, or does the troop tax become too large now?I feel like the 3HQ limit on the battalion might be too restricting. Or should I sacrifice a few CP and make a battalion and a patrol?

>>73789489
i'd be fine with it. you can easily tell what it's supposed to be

only time conversions are a problem are when it is too difficult to tell what the model is supposed to be, or its too similar to an existing model, or its some janky conversion for gameplay advantage

>>73789555
Couldn't cultists fill up the troop tax and be somewhat cheap & useful?

>>73789392
I don't think he even plays.

>>73789511
Warp portals? I can dig it.

>>73789572
They can, but you'd still be spending 360pts on troops.
I also don't want to paint 60 cultists when CSM look so much better

>>73788700
still these guys from yesterday, continued working on a void shield generator that I started a month or so ago though, so that's coming up soon

>>73789533
they'll get one probably early next year, like they did one for GSC when all the new sisters stuff came out, so obviously one for sisters will come out when they release the squats

>>73789533
That would be very cash money

>>73788719
Rather than assume the artillery has been brought to the frontline, instead consider that perhaps the enemy has brought the frontline to the artillery

>>73789392
I'm actually learning more about 40k than I ever did listening to people spouting about how much they love 8e capeshit

>>73789526
Thanks for the rundown, anon. I was curious because my Guard (LRBTs and Heavy weapons spam) was struggling against Loyalist Termies and T-Sons Termies. It may be I've built a shitty force, too.

>>73789583
Dunno how many HQs you're looking for, but you could take a battalion and a supreme command detachment?

>>73789464
I don't even play nids SNA, I play necrons, CSM and CWE, I just think you got done dirty and I'd like to see people bring hormagaunt hordes again because shooting hordes of bugs is a lot of fun.

>>73789606
supreme command now only gives a LoW not more HQ slots.

>>73789453
It was looking really good, until points were revealed, and that basically undid all of the incredible stuff they'd built up. They got lazy with points, and the edition will suffer (hopefully only temporarily) for it.

What's an army that is survivable/resilient as fuck but I won't be judged for playing them

>>73789479
Its one of luths pictures, dude produces most of the cute 40k pictures these days.

>>73788719
you do have very far away artillery represented by stratagems,

>>73789586
nice gay parade

>>73789586
They look severely sunburnt

>>73789619
Ffs. I'd make a patrol then, don't Red Corsairs have a thing that lets you farm CP easy?

>>73789526
Not all terminators...!

>>73789128
I think I'm just kinda burnt out in general these days. I have some BA on the go and too, maybe I need to get away from power armour for a minute. Lack of games being available has kinda curbed my drive too, Thanks for compassion.

>>73789526
SS termies are tough

>>73789627
Death Guard

How do I into /poxmongers/? So far I have access to 3 bloat drones, 3 blight haulers, and a plagueburst crawler as well as the ubiquitous arch contaminator warlord w/ the 4+ daemon engine invuln relic. I have 3k points of DG so suggest anything, I probably have at least one

I was angry about not having chaincannons last thread

Then I saw autocannons had double the range

I now have an ebay order for 3 autocannons

Carnifexes are pretty cool

>>73789627

>>73789555
Lord, DP and Sorcerer. Easy. What else could you ever want?

>>73789627
You shouldn't care about being judged, bud. Even if you jump into the Primaris Bandwagon. Which strangers in the Internet WILL laugh at you about.

>>73789611
I APPRECIATE IT ANON.

>>73789547
IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE IS REFERRING TO THE INFAMOUS VIRUS GRENADES/VIRUS OUTBREAK STRATEGY CARD. IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE SEALED ARMOUR, LIKE SPACE MARINES WITH HELMETS ON, YOU ROLLED TO SEE IF THE THING IN RANGE OF THE VIRUS CLOUD DIED, AND THEN IT SPREAD TO THE NEXT MODEL IN COHERENCY, AND THE NEXT, ETC. IT COULD ANNIHILATE AN ENTIRE ARMY OF ORKS INSTANTLY AND WAS STUPIDLY UNFUN. THEY RELEASED AN ERRATA LATER SAYING "JUST TAKE THAT STRATEGY/WARGEAR CARD AND TEAR IT UP".

MOST OF THE EDITION WAS GREAT BUT JUST HAD ITS FEW MISTAKES LIKE EVERY OTHER EDITION DID. THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WON'T MAKE IT INTO THE 2.5E REMAKE, DON'T WORRY.

>>73789649
Never played with or against Allarus custodians before so i forgot they existed, I used to play blood angels before primaris made me fall to chaos so I've got a lot of experience on both sides of the table with the lads I mentioned.

what are allarus custodians like anon?

>>73789526
Don't forget you can get berzerker termies now with WEs.

>>73789680
indeed they are
shame about their tabletop ability, really

>>73789488
Kino
Does Morty at least get to hold hands with Isha?

AHAHAHAHA WAACFAGS BTFO AGAIN

>>73789600
ikr? I wonder how old SNA is. I thought about it today and considering 2e was from 93'-98', so say if he was 18 (thinking 2e prolly still required cash money back then)and played around 95', he'd be 43 . A genuine oldfag? That'd be my guess. It's so wild to hear opinions from someone that played back then since I really wouldn't understand this shit if I just for example picked up the 2e rulebook and read through it

>>73789643
They give you 3 CP if you have 3 CSM squads unless that is changed. I play AL but I guess some normally, but I wonder if taking a red corsair detachment to CP compensate and be able to get more 2 HQs is worth it.
>>73789684
By lord you mean Lord disco? Yeah, those are the three I definitely bring, but it's always nice to have a few extra chaos lords in terminator, or an extra DP.

>>73789727
I play AL normally, but*

>>73789727
Either Lord, depending on game size.

>>73789439
You are now reminded that a decently converted Katakros would be an infinitely better model than GW's attempt

For a 20 man possessed unit, should I roll them as Khorne or Nurgle?
Nurgle pros: -1 to hit psychic power, saving points and HQ slots on an apostle to do the same.
Khorne: Fighting twice.
So far I'm considering running a daemon prince and a sorceror along with them, since I'm going to need warp time to launch them across the table turn one, and prescience and reroll 1s for 2+ rerollable. If I go Khorne I could probably stick with sorc and lord instead of a prince, but then I'll need an apostle to give them -1 to hit, and I want space for an apostle to give them +1 to wound and a master of possession for rerolling weapons on random numbers and cursed earth.

>>73789684
Also, if Warp talons get fixed, i'd like to be able to bring my lord with jump pack and 10 warp talons again.

Grey tides

>>73789023
True, but two absolver pistols and two crozius sound rad

I've got a 1883pts Eldar list, and I need to work out how best to fill the rest of the 117 points with upgrades.

Changing the model count is out of the question, but I every kit is magnetised for every option (inlcuding Fire Prism --> Night Spinner, and Windriders --> Shining Spears).

How do I round this list out to ~2k points?

>>73789703
That's usually the case with most cool models, it feels like it atleast

>>73788700
I haven't painted in months

>>73789754
Go khorne and full balls to the wall

>>73789765
>How do I round this list out to ~2k points?
choose the upgrades you want
obviously

>>73789669
SS termies are tough in 8th edition and they also put out a bunch of damage, meaning they match 2 of the 3 virtues of a good melee unit which is the minimum requirements to actually be good in melee.

unfortunately 9th editions changes to stormshields has weakened their durability against designated anti terminator weapons but thats come with the tradeoff of making them stronger against basic anti infantry so I don't really have any problems there.

tactical terminators are still terrible however and lightning claw terminators are a gimmick.

>>73789689
I'm interested SNA, if you were given authority over re-balancing hormagaunts how would you go about doing it?

>>73789476
>He addressed that
My bad, hard to follow a 50+ year old who types like a 9 year old.
>Shat on
Nobody seemed to be getting shat on in 5th by the nid codex except the marine kids who got 3 Trygons, Ymgarls and the Doom dropped on them while endless spawning Termagaunts popped out of Troop choice monsters. Termagaunts weren’t hormagaunts but with FC and poison they ripped through marines and even greater daemons in melee.

>>73788700
WIP banner boy I picked back up recently after sitting on a shelf half finished for two years

>>73789756
>yfw plastic deffkoptas STILL haven't got their own release

Anyone know any good formulas to build a Primaris scale Asterion Moloc? Head will be a 3rd party Spartan-style helmet w/ crest, and the Black Spear and arms will be using Custodes bits. Any recommendations on the body? Don't care on the pattern of armor matching 100%, Moloc has gone missing and been declared KiA multiple times so I don't mind some "field repairs"

>>73788700

>>73789803
>Nobody seemed to be getting shat on in 5th by the nid codex
you fucking what

>>73788700
Mostly done save for the bases. I'll probably have to do everyone's robes with the same trim as the guy in the middle because it ended up looking pretty good. Infiltrators inspired by wasps and crash test dolls.

>>73789821
as a terminator, he's as tall as primaris, is he not?

>>73789795
I don't have the indepth understanding of Eldar required to work out how to equip the stuff. I'm aiming to do well in a mid/upper casual environment.

> Are the twin catapults on the Dire Avengers poor now they're 5pts?
> Should the Banshee exarch be holding anything?
> Do I want to add Shuriken cannons to the Wave Serpents/Fire Prisms?
> Do I add Scatter Lasers to the bikes?
> Do I spend 90 points to change the Windriders into Shining Spears?

Stuff like that.

>>73789831
Imagine unironically thinking the 5e Tyranids codex was ok. That's gotta be like, the one dude with that opinion in the world. gotta savor that

>>73788700
just need some work on the melta and i'm calling this unsanitary bois done

>>73789204
That other weapon isn't a fusion gun, it's the dragon's breath flamer

>>73789861
Oh cool, thanks for that, I'd never have realised.

>Alpha Legion had one named character
>Now they have none
>Space Marines will get more stuff
why...

>>73788700

>>73789846
You make a very valid point! I've never seen the FW model in person, I just assumed he was tinier than modern marine releases. Anyone got the model handy? I think someone else on here has Minotaurs right?

>>73789848
simple answer is this: make sure your army has good amounts of anti-inf and anti-vehicle
it's pretty easy to see which weapons are for what
once you're satisfied with how much of each you have, look into stuff like vectored engines and spirit stones
ultimately magnetisation and experience through playing will get you what you want more than any amount of theorycrafting can

>>73788621
Give it some bull balls hitched onto its underside

>>73789831
Like I said. Every brainlet nid player I saw got easy wins with 5th ed until Grey Knights came along but they stomped everybody.

>>73789204
Cut barrel. Glue muzzle close to the hand. He has a special fusion gun.

>>73789811
wait, no that can't be right. assault on black reach has been out of print for the last decade.

>>73789765
Give every vehicle a crystal targetting matrix and vectored engines so you can advance freely and still shoot heavy weapons at full ballistic skill thanks to battle fortune, while getting -1 to hit on everything.

the waveserpents only need vectored engines because shuriken cannons are already assault so thats +30 points.

The fire prisms need that plus crystal targeting matrix so thats +90 points all in all for all vehicles upgraded.

then pay 15 points for the avengers to get double cats and spend whatevers left getting the skyrunner a laser lance.

really though anon you should be building your own list, not letting randos on the internet do it for you.

How does $60 for just the marine bit of the box sound?

Crons look cool but I'd only really use them for bits.

>>73789882
Just let go anon, we have people whining about this in every thread. Buy the model lines you want to see more of, there's nothing else you can do to make it right.

>>73789852
Maybe you’re just bad.

>>73789907
>truck nuts

More like dread nuts.

>>73789875
Yeah, they look nearly identical so I don't think anyone but the biggest waac would complain if you counted it as a fusion gun

Otherwise your best bet is to just shorten the fusion pike

>>73789928
its ok.

>>73789629
>that cute nid

>>73789919
you think me to be joking?
the only model you can purchase for it is the metal one, for £20 each

>>73789890
love it

>>73789902
Thanks. I don't think I have anywhere near enough anti-infantry, so upgrading the bikes may be a good idea - would 60pts for six of one of pic related (9e has them at 10pts each) be good?

Why are Modern 40k White Scars so fucking boring.
Did they pigeonhole themselves by making them mOnGoLiAnS iN sPaCe?
I think the name and scheme are cool, and asianic themes are sweet (Emp’s Shadows anyone?), but white scars are fucking boring.

>>73789929
I do. I used the alpharius model for him as well. I don't even mind if they never release a model for him, but why just delete the rules for the only named character?

>>73789692
Probably the second best unit the custodians have. (not counting fw). Deep striking them is a great way to take heat off your footslogging guard, and depending on how your enemy is positioned, could really put them in a vice grip that would end the game. There arent many units in the game they would actually be afraid of taking on. They are also great character hunters if you want that.

With 9th edition they are looking even better now that we have CP to use stratagems, rather then spending most of it to upgrade shield cap on jet bike, then doing into the golden light. The Allarus actually have really nice ones like concussion grenades.

Tl;DR they are exactly what you would imagine a Custodian in the highest end terminator armor available to be.

>>73789925
> still shoot heavy weapons at full ballistic skill thanks to battle fortune,
Sadly vehicles don't have that rule, it's only the infantry.

>>73789852
In fairness the 5th ed codex did let you take tervi's as troop choices so you could have scoring 6 wound MC's that spawned free termagaunt chaff.

it was literally the only way to play tyranids and it got a targeted nerf that ruined it in 6th edition while all the shit stuff was left to languish to but worked.

>>73789967
oh thank you! :y

>>73789716
I'M NOT QUITE THAT OLD, I STARTED PLAYING AS A YOUNGER LAD, BUT I WAS A SMART LITTLE SHIT AND PICKED UP THE GAME QUICKLY. I'VE GONE BACK AND REPLAYED 2E MANY TIMES AS AN ADULT SINCE LATER EDITIONS HAVE ROLLED AROUND THOUGH. ALSO HAD MY SHARE OF GAMING IN 3RD AND 4TH BUT NEVER ENJOYED IT QUITE AS MUCH. 5TH EDITION WAS WHEN I QUIT IN ABSOLUTE RAGE AND LOATHING. I PLAYED A LITTLE BIT AT THE TAIL END OF 7TH AND START OF 8TH BUT IT NEVER REALLY GOT ME PASSIONATE ABOUT THE GAME AGAIN. I JUST CONVERT MODELS NOW MOSTLY, AND DAYDREAM ABOUT BETTER RULES.

I'VE ALSO PLAYED A LOT OF BATTLEFLEET GOTHIC, EXPANDED SPACE HULK AND A LITTLE NECROMUNDA BUT NEVER FOUND CONSISTENT GROUPS FOR ANY OF THAT. I'VE WANTED TO TRY EPIC 40K BUT HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO TRACK DOWN SUFFICIENT MODELS IN THAT SCALE.

>>73789799
>I'm interested SNA, if you were given authority over re-balancing hormagaunts how would you go about doing it?
IN 9TH THEY SHOULD HAVE ADVANCE+CHARGE LIKE GENESTEALERS AND A +3" TO CHARGE ROLLS LIKE BANSHEES ROLLED INTO THE BOUNDING LEAP ABILITY, SCYTHING TALONS SHOULD BE AP -1 AND GRANT A BONUS ATTACK INSTEAD OF RE-ROLLING HIT ROLLS OF 1, AND ALL TYRANID MELEE WEAPONS SHOULD CAUSE 2 HITS INSTEAD OF ONE ON UNMODIFIED ROLLS OF 6 TO HIT FOR COMING IN PAIRS (WHICH IS STATISTICALLY THE SAME AS +1 WEAPON SKILL BUT MORE FLAVORFUL). THEN MAKE ADRENAL GLANDS ADD +1 STRENGTH ON THE TURN THE MODEL CHARGES IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER BENEFITS. REMOVE THE "HUNGERING SWARM" ABILITY, WE SHOULDN'T NEED 20 FUCKING BUGS IN BLAST EDITION TO GET A MINOR BENEFIT THAT DOESN'T EVEN STACK WITH SOME HIVE FLEET ADAPTATIONS. THEN DROP THEM BACK TO 5PPM AND WE'RE IN BUSINESS.

After not enjoying 40k since 8th dropped after a hiatus I'm just going to quit. I'm just going to play 30k and Specialist Games. Goodbye, /40kg/. I've finally wised up.

>>73789915
Far as I remember, wasn't the only way to win with Tyranids in 5th by playing them exactly like Guard? Using stuff like biovores I believe?

>>73789765
swap a fire prism for night spinner. being able to hit units hiding out of sight along with the boost to blast makes them amazing. otherwise give the wave serpents some bright lances as you may be light on anti tank. i get the feeling more will be taking monsters and vehicles

>>73789803
IF YOU ACTUALLY THINK THE 5TH EDITION TYRANID CODEX WAS STRONG YOU ARE BRAINDAMAGED BEYOND REPAIR.

>>73789987
You are correct, still something to consider to put on the wave serpents at least since they're more focused on moving up the board to drop off their dudes than dealing damage.

the other 60 points can be spent turning the bikes into shining spears to hang out with the autarch.

>>73789890
Suffering.

>>73788812
Nothing is more disgusting and vile then consensual Isha-Nurgle fap fiction.

The only thing pure left in the galaxy that sanctifies life and health is prisoner to the very thing that seeks for it to die and fester. It’s the worst kind of diabolical corruption and agony, and is a sure fire sign that the galaxy is ultimately doomed because nothing seems to be able to free the little good from the clutches of putrification.

It is literally the worst kind of /d/ degeneracy because nurgle is the essence of degeneracy!!!

Take your love and peace fap fiction elsewhere

>>73788698
The occasional slip up when you forget to shoot/charge with one unit and your opponent lets you.

It doesn't happen often, and generally I'll take the L if I forget, but it's always nice if your opponent lets you make that roll.

>>73790034
Minis are forever friend, they'll be waiting for you if you ever want to come back. No sense trying to force yourself to enjoy something, has never worked.

>>73789968
I would recommend switching out wave serpent twin shuriken cannons for the scatter lasers, since it costs the same and you get 2 more shots per vehicle at the expense of the random AP

>>73790035
I saw them played like marines. 3 Trygons, the Doom and some Zthropes in pods while Ymgarls popped out of terrain and got a free charge. Deathleaper was hiding somewhere behind cover to act as a comms.

>>73790049
Says the guy typing in all caps. Go blow yourself (up), Owen Meaney.

>>73790034
Care to tell what killed your enjoyment? I haven't played 40k in person at all properly but i feel like it comes down to having nice people in the community for most things.

>>73790071
The way I play if you forget a move/charge/psychic power and haven't started figuring out the next phase yet I'll let you go back and do it. Like if you forgot a psychic power and you were starting to decide where your first shooting unit would shoot then realized you forgot a power, it wouldn't be an issue. Unfortunately I've had people try to take advantage of it by "forgetting" to put a +1 to hit psychic power on a unit and had that unit fire first, didn't like their hit roll and wanted to "go back" to the psychic phase. It was in bad faith so I refused to let them do it.

>>73790069
nurgle doesn't want life to be exterminated
his realm is literally a garden

>>73789107
Is this common? All of the local stores I go to, people just use d6's to track wounds.

Why do shit paintjobs always get these masturbatory softboy responses?

>>73789476
>dakkafexes were pretty much the way you had to play them
not in 4th. Stealers and lictors more or less guaranteed you one or two first turn charges, and hormagaunts with toxin sacs were quite good at opening up AV10 transports.. "dakkafexes/tyrants" were for cowards and WAACfags

t. someone who ran all melee-nids in 4th

Sister Blessed and Sister Mays shouting condemnations through the orbital macro-laud hailers, defeaning many heretics before the Sisters attack.

>>73790069
>and a sure fire sign that the galaxy is doomed
If everything is doomed, then what is the appeal of 40k?

>>73789586
I love ‘em, but is there no FPS30 in the grimdark future?

>>73789552
*Sensible us states were shut down for 3 months, come out looking pretty clean and then the shit states down south never really did their part and lockdown is coming again.

>>73790173
I wouldn't call the paintjob shit exactly but I see where you're coming from. Generally those admiring comments come from people who don't paint themselves. To a paintlet it's cool to paint something as small as that in the first place.

>>73790173
Because you don’t paint and don’t understand.

>>73790031
>IN 9TH THEY SHOULD HAVE ADVANCE+CHARGE LIKE GENESTEALERS AND A +3" TO CHARGE ROLLS LIKE BANSHEES ROLLED INTO THE BOUNDING LEAP ABILITY, SCYTHING TALONS SHOULD BE AP -1 AND GRANT A BONUS ATTACK INSTEAD OF RE-ROLLING HIT ROLLS OF 1, AND ALL TYRANID MELEE WEAPONS SHOULD CAUSE 2 HITS INSTEAD OF ONE ON UNMODIFIED ROLLS OF 6 TO HIT FOR COMING IN PAIRS (WHICH IS STATISTICALLY THE SAME AS +1 WEAPON SKILL BUT MORE FLAVORFUL). THEN MAKE ADRENAL GLANDS ADD +1 STRENGTH ON THE TURN THE MODEL CHARGES IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER BENEFITS. REMOVE THE "HUNGERING SWARM" ABILITY, WE SHOULDN'T NEED 20 FUCKING BUGS IN BLAST EDITION TO GET A MINOR BENEFIT THAT DOESN'T EVEN STACK WITH SOME HIVE FLEET ADAPTATIONS. THEN DROP THEM BACK TO 5PPM AND WE'RE IN BUSINESS.

interesting changes, I think that they should stay at 6 ppm personally but I also think that guardsmen should be 6 points per model so I think thats more me being conservative with points costs than anything else, other than that though the changes you've outlined would be pretty good since while they'd actually be able to kill things and reach combat between boosted speed and damage they'd still be squishy enough that they die quickly so they'd be useful enough to field without being overbearingly powerful to face.

At the very least you understand balance better than GW playtesters I guess.

>>73788580
Wish that this dude was an HQ and had some other *thing*

>>73790198
isn't california a total coronafucked mess right now?

Starting my jump into 40k with Nids because I love the design. My friend is a vet, but is okay starting with 500 point games because he likes more casual games anyways. I want to focus on slowly building up a swarm of termagants, hormagaunts, and gargoyles. Problem is a need an HQ to begin with. If I had one HQ to start building a swarm around, who should it be? I'm thinking a tyranid prime with magnetic arms/wings. As a newbie, having a hard time figuring out which HQ synergies with a "horde" play style best.

>>73790205
He literally primed runelord brass and washed it in nihilak oxide.

>>73790173
I kinda like this paintjob, but it could be better. The specks of emerald on the bodies don't look right

>>73790217
Most of it qualifies as south so ur not wrong

>>73790075
Yeah, my stuff is going into storage for now. It will be catalogued and gathering dust in my closet.

>>73790148
I dislike stratagems, lack of wargear options, marine vs marine (I understand the irony of this but I feel like marines in HH have an identity beyond what they have now in 40k which is just different colours), and a few other things in that nature. 9th isn't going to change any of it, which is pretty disappointing. Others don't want to play older versions of 40k, or they simply don't know it and don't care to learn it.

I thought I would have fun when I played it with friends and went into it with that attitude but when I did play it I just didn't have fun.

>>73790071
The way my LGS started doing it was "everyone gets one", where you were allowed to go back and do one thing you forgot per game, provided it was within a phase or two of the same turn. We had a lot of new players who were pretty forgetful and wanted to play faster so they'd cut corners and forget to move units or use psychic powers, and it was getting annoying having to constantly let them go back on actions, so everyone got one freebie and then if you forgot an action after that, tough shit. People ended up wising up pretty quick after that.

>>73790173
Why are you so bitter about literal whos complimenting each other? Doesn't even look half bad, he only fucked up the oxide. You know better anyway I hope. A few good jobs from /40kg/ or /wip/ mean a million times more than 200 likes on instagram or whatever.

>>73789164
Honestly arch fags probably dont bathe either

>>73790205
it's literally just "wow oxide exists"
that's the whole paintjob

>>73790219
Ditch gargoyles for genesteelers, run a broodlord.

>>73789859
Always wanted to know what was the origanl shape of those vehicles before chaos

>>73790217
It’s so fucked the homeless people packed up their tent cities and left for the mountains.

>>73790198
Bullshit. It’s the Yankees who ran away from their urban shitholes and brought it with them.

>>73790049
It wasn't a strong codex but it wasn't completely impossible to build a strong army with it.

Honestly with how much you rag on the 5th edition codex for being terrible personally I think the 6th ed codex was far worse as it went out of its way to nerf every viable nid build in the game without actually fixing any of the units that needed it like carnifexes or genestealers or hormagaunts. if it wasn't for the core rulebook buffing the ever loving shit out of flygrants by making them FMC's the army would be straight up unplayable all the way through to eighth thanks to that piece of shit.

>>73790173
>like real metal
>verdigris on iron
>real metal

Harpy vs hive crone.

Played nids for years but never used much flyers. Crone has a specific purpose but taking that into account, if you have fielded them both a few times have you noticed one or the other doing noticeably better for it's cost?

Pics not mine. I just really like the grounded model kitbashes of them.

>>73789070
In the 41st millennium, there are no neutral turns.

>>73790217
LA has over double the density of people per square mile than NYC does, it was never a good situation. GF and I are still with her father. We got into town at the end of February, then the lockdown hit and the apartment complex we were to move into shut their leasing office. Then the job I was to start also said they were shutting down "indefinitely". And I haven't had any luck in getting another job offer. We were set to move into our apartment the first week of August but the lockdown has closed the leasing office again.

Wait, a Twin Heavy Bolter is now 30pts and a reaper chaincannon is 20pts.
wtf?

>>73790249
The paintjob is fine, dunno why you'd complain about someone somewhat new getting encouraged

Do the models from the Deathwatch Kill Team set count as the same as if I got a SM Tactical Squad and put the Deathwatch upgrade sprue pauldrons on them?

>>73790297
>>73789070
forgot to reply with the picture, FUCK

>>73790191
As all dorf's know by heart, FUN!

It's all a big highway to hell, and I wouldn't have it any other way. There's no rainbow at the end of this tunnel. It's a long, meandering, painful journey that is supposed to leave you broken and sad by the end. I mean people enjoystuff like Dark Souls, LISA RPG and Dying Earth genre of fiction in general, and I think 40k fits in there alongside those. It's a unique morbidity that I think a lot of people appreciate

>>73790173
Guy's only real error was going way too overboard with the oxide on the metal. Too bad that error legit ruins an otherwise good paint job, though. As for fags complimenting shit paint jobs, it's a critiquing problem in general and you run into it all over with artwork. In general the best place to really get critique is from a master or a school setting, because you get fags on both sides either being afraid to say anything's wrong with it or just calling anything that's not the Mona Lisa shit. It's especially prevalent online, I take a quick dip into 40k forums and websites at work to kill time and I constantly see people complimenting legitimately thick, shitty paint jobs, and it does literally nothing for the painter asking for critique. I assume most of them are just afraid of being shit on for rightly pointing out that someone made mistakes.

>>73790114
LOOK WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU WERE A GREEN SCRUB JUST STARTING OUT IN FIFTH WITH YOUR FIRST ARMY OF SPACE MARINES AND YOU GOT SLAPPED AROUND BY EXPERIENCED NID PLAYERS BECAUSE EVEN BEING HANDICAPPED WITH ONE OF THE WORST CODEXES EVER PRINTED, A SEASONED VETERAN WITH A COMP LIST IS GOING TO SMASH A TOTAL NEWBIE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE ARMY WAS ANYTHING FUCKING APPROACHING GOOD. A WELL LEARNED CHESS PLAYER WILL CRUSH KIDS WITHOUT HIS QUEEN OR KNIGHTS TOO.

>>73790173
I kinda like those minis...

/tg/, am I retarded?

>>73789138
Ive taught a few people to play 8th and then kill team, whilst i started doing the first anons method, it quickly became all of us using this exact shorthand.
Anyone who complains with this minimum is a tool, even if everyones hyper autism knows every codex, its just common courtesy

>>73790271
Nah b, it's all that masks infringe on muh freedom BS.
Go eat shit with papa nurgle somewhere else.

>>73790274
>Honestly with how much you rag on the 5th edition codex for being terrible personally I think the 6th ed codex was far worse
OH NO I'VE ALREADY ADMITTED THIS. 5TH GETS THE HATE BECAUSE IT WAS THE START OF CRUDDEX ERA. 6TH WAS WHEN IT DOUBLED DOWN AND SANK EVEN LOWER WHICH WE HADN'T THOUGHT POSSIBLE. WE'LL GET TO THAT IN FUTURE LESSONS SOMEDAY.

I don't like the new detachment system

>>73790219
Tervigons have synergy with termagaunts because they can resurrect 10 per round with their special ability, for the other hordes you'll want a neurothrope to act as a hidden buff bot spitting out synapse and FNP to nearby small bugs without actually being itself targetable.

of course my tyrant bias is telling me to tell you to buy a hive tyrant because they're awesome but they're really not that good in current edition.

>>73789928
80 is the plastic amount for a monetary split where you don't get the rulebook. Realistically though the marines are so much stronger than the cron side that you will probably look at 100+.

>>73789954
What about the reverse?

Like 140 for the crons+books might be alright for something I can lend to people for a game.

>>73790359
Why not?

>>73789149
I'm intending to put a USB speaker in my exorcist for that exact reason. It'll be a while before I get to it though, still painting up infantry and having a good time.

>>73790310
the paintjob is terrible, but I'm not the original anon
if someone posts minis in a hugbox it's because they only want feel goods
and I'm not yet so bitter as to not understand that

>>73790347
Eh, dude just went overboard with the oxide wash, which isn't even a wash. If he would have reined it in they'd look good.

>>73790377
I like to make weird lists with non-standard selections of units, which usually necessitate multiple detachments

>>73790347
they're a basic bitch job, but done neatly enough

no shame in liking the look of a 6/10, anon

>>73790173
Because believe it or not, people can paint for enjoyment and not just to be "the best".

They're still making an effort to put paint on a brush, which is more than what probably half of the people on /40kg/ do. Let people enjoy themselves, quit being a prick.

>>73790348
man
I really love images of wargame characters playing their wargame
it's fun

>>73790031
Hi SNA, I really appreciate you yelling and yammering about 2nd edition. It has me quite interested in playing it some time.
Is it going to be alien to someone who's played since 5th ed onwards or will the rules be quick and easy to learn?

>>73790173
i can't hate on someone doing a simple paint job. my biel-tan eldar are primed white and i put null oil in the cracks to speed up painting.

>>73790407
That has nothing to do with what he asked

>>73790372
what?

60 marines
60 necrons
30 book

>>73790173
He went way overboard with the nihilakh oxide.

>>73790380
Sounds pretty based anon

Completely new to Warhammer and have some noob questions:

What's the difference between AP- and AP-1?

Why is FNP sometimes listed with multiple + signs? I don't understand what's meant by 6++, for example.

>>73790355
god I remember shitposting about that piece of shit and its piece of shit authors when it came out, everyone in the community was expecting for a codex to save the tyranid players from monobuild hell and what they got was "Fuck tervigons, Fuck mawlocs, Fuck trygons, also we're deleting spores and the doom, why? fuck you thats why."

the thread was a mess for weeks after the fact. I hope I never have to see a codex made to kill an army like that or 6th ed orks again.

>>73790456
AP- means there's no AP
X+ refers to regular armor save, X++ refers to invuln. save and X+++ refers to FNP, which is a save you can roll after the hit but before you take damage, including mortal wounds.

>>73790456
AP- means AP0, it gets used because the '-' symbol means null in the books. The amount of plusses after a number signify what kind of save it is. + is armor save, ++ is invulnerable save, and +++ is feel no pain.

>>73789489
Yes. That's clearly a multi-melta.