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>> No.73724543

What has been spoiled so far for points changes?

>> No.73724549

>>73724529
Post games

>> No.73724550

Necrons!

>> No.73724557

>play inquisitor martyr
>spend the time murdering my doods like it's going out style
may the ruinous powers exact terrible suffering upon the creators of this game

>> No.73724560

Can I get the points for Leviathan Storm Cannons?

>> No.73724562

Sure glad I decided to get back to my Dark Eldar Kabal and Coven just in time for 9th...

>> No.73724565

Indomitus wave 2 confirmed?

>> No.73724574

[xth] for R&H will probably rot in 9th as well LET ME HAVE MY FUCKING MALCADOR HERETICS GOD DAMN IT FUCK YOU GW YOU FUCKERS FUCK FUCK FUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>73724510
Haven't for a while now. They lost gauss weapons being cool in 8th.

>> No.73724576

>>73724549

>> No.73724589

>>73724543
The points changes are an across the board schizophrenic and nonsensical mess with seemingly arbitrary decisions everywhere.

It's enough to make me doubt the leaks being legit despite how omnipresent they are

>> No.73724592

>Primaris Eradicators
>like melta units, but good and exclusive to Primaris
>Primaris Eliminators
>like snipers, but good and exclusive to Primaris

What will the next E-class Primaris unit be? Bonus question: when will GW roll out the better sniper/melta rules to non-Primaris factions? lol j/k

>> No.73724595

>>73724549
>tequila flavored beer
Why would you ever want that?

>> No.73724599

>>73724549
The most 3rd world table i have ever seen

>> No.73724602

>>73724549
older game
I was going to give my Orks a rest with 9th but honestly they probably looking like the best army I'll have so we'll see

>> No.73724605

>>73724560
75pts per, I think
The screeching idiots that couldn't get past the remarkably easy skillcheck cried hard enough that they now come out to something like 410pts

>> No.73724607

You just fucking know every person will blast Eradicators off the board asap

>> No.73724611

>>73724599
It was at my mates garage in Stoke on trent so yeah about right

>> No.73724613

Anybody going to use forts? Now that you get the CP back and aren’t encouraged to fill three detachments they look interesting to me.

>> No.73724616

Did all these points doomers not remember that the literal exact same thing happened with indexes at the start of 8the? They're just trying to make sure there are no insane outliers in balance until everyone gets their codex points by lowering the power curve in general. You know, except for primaris marines. They just get to be better than you.

>> No.73724617

How do we save LGS's?

>> No.73724619

>>73724574
R&H didn't even make it to 9th, sucker.

>> No.73724621

>>73724521
Yeah I've always had issues sort of with Wayland.
Every time I've ordered off them it takes them weeks to get to me.
I'm waiting on a scions starter kit plus some more scions boxes.
Almost at two weeks since ordering.
Took them a month almost to get me a brush set and basing kit.

Their prices are good and in my experience they will get you what you order. It's just a question of time.

>> No.73724622

>>73724576
>elysiabro
noice
>>73724592
Some form of jump pack melee unit would be my guess. Across the board replacement for all assault marines.

>> No.73724628

>>73724543
Nids, GSC, and Orks took a beating.

>> No.73724641

Codex release order predictions?

>Space Marines, Necrons, Imperial Guard, Dark Angels, Chaos Space Marines, Eldar, Blood Angels, Tau, Space Wolves, Custodes, Dark Eldars, Deathwatch, Orks, AdMech, Tyranids, Chaos Daemons.

>> No.73724642

>>73724617
>saving sigmarxism LGSs

>> No.73724648

>>73724621
Just order from goblin games or something similar they're like 1% more expensive but your stuff actually comes

>> No.73724651

>>73724641
why the hell would you think chaos daemons is the dead last? it's one of the oldest codexes

>> No.73724652

The real 40k 9th ed starterbox will feature Catachans vs Renegades and Heretics.

>> No.73724654

>>73724613
>get it back
unless unaligned stuff like aegis defence lines count as your faction, you don't get the CP back for any of the useful stuff.
>>73724616
>no insane outliers
>points leak filled with insane outliers
>>73724619
Guess I'll keep using the models as normal guard. It hurts, anon.

>> No.73724657

>>73724613
I will probably give a bunker or this big guy a shot for a game or two, sticking a bunch of missile Havocs in there and seeing how it works out
>>73724616
>Did all these points doomers not remember that the literal exact same thing happened with indexes at the start of 8the? They're just trying to make sure there are no insane outliers in balance until everyone gets their codex points by lowering the power curve in general.
I am trying to avoid complaining too much myself before actually playing some games and testing stuff out, but some of the points do seem nonsensical (grots 5 ppm, IG infantry 5 ppm, cultists 6 ppm)

>> No.73724659

Anyone got points for the hellforged land raider Achilles before I bin mine? I came find points anywhere and I'm worried it goes legendsded

>> No.73724660

>>73724641
First three: SM, Necrons, SoB

>> No.73724661

>>73724592
>I don't like these good Melta and Sniper units, I want another Melta and Sniper unit that slightly shorter!
Fucking Marinefags. Even 2/3s of all the 40K release slots isn't enough for you cunts. Shit like this makes me wish GW really would squat your shitty manlets.

>> No.73724671

Repostan this guy. I really enjoyed putting him together and painting him.

The chapter's really starting to come together

>> No.73724673

>relic contemptor dreads down to 105 from 110 points
>weapon points remain unchanged
marines keep on winning

>> No.73724676

>>73724617
By telling the LGS this is a shit product made by a company that views their carriers as the enemy and they’re better off with FFG and even Wizards of the Cuck.

>> No.73724679

>>73724622
Executioners? Evictors?

>> No.73724685

>>73724577
MOTHERFUCK, OKAY HERE WE GO AGAIN.

>>73724201
>>73724366
>>73724469
>>73724627
>LICTORS ARE THE REASON I GOT INTO 40K. IF IT WEREN'T FOR THIS MODEL IN ALL LIKELIHOOD I WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY SCREAMING INTO THE VOID OF A KAZAKHSTANI BALL-WASHING FORUM. I SAW THIS FUCKER IN A GW CATALOG ABOUT 23 YEARS AGO AND MY FATE WAS SEALED. I STARTED READING UP ONLINE. I FOUND A SHORT STORY ABOUT A LICTOR GOING FULL FUCKING STEALTH PREDATOR STALKING GUARDSMEN THROUGH A JUNGLE. FOR THE LIFE OF ME I COULD NOT TELL YOU WHO WROTE IT OR WHERE TO FIND THAT STORY TODAY, IT WAS PROBABLY SOMEONE'S FANFIC LOST TO THE AGES OF THE DIAL-UP INTERNET, BUT IT WAS THE SHIT.

>AND ON THE TABLE BACK THEN THE MOTHERFUCKER ACTUALLY DELIVERED. IT TERRIFIED PEOPLE. LIKE VISCERAL ACTUAL FEAR FROM THE REAL PLAYER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE. THE GAME DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO MAKE ANYTHING FUNCTION IN A WAY THAT COOL THESE DAYS - IF SOMETHING IN MODERN 40K IS OVERPOWERED PEOPLE JUST GET FRUSTRATED AND ANNOYED BECAUSE IT'S BROKEN IN A BORING WAY. THEY DON'T SWEAT WITH ANXIETY AND GET IMMERSED IN THE GAME WORLD.

>WHAT MADE THE LICTOR SO FUCKING SCARY, YOU ASK? TWO WORDS. HIDE, AND INFILTRATE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS GUYS ENTIRE PAGE OF SPECIAL RULES ONE BY ONE AND I'LL BREAK THEM DOWN VIA HOW THEY WORK IN THE 2E CORE.

>> No.73724691

>>73724642
They're american. Americans had the last vestiges of their understanding of terminology and ideology indoctrinated out of them during the cold war

>> No.73724693

>>73724529
Rest in Piss Lias Issodon

>> No.73724694

>>73724661
I want Fire Dragons, Dominions, Retributors and Tau Fusion Blasters to not suck dude. GW refused to write rules for a passable melta unit until it was Primaris' turn to get one, that sucks ass for every other faction. Same deal for snipers.

>> No.73724695

>>73724595
It wasn't nice, we had a bbq after and it was cheap in aldi so thought it give it a go

>> No.73724696

Did we get Titan changes? If so what are they?

>> No.73724701

i wrote GW a bad email cause i didnt got a copy of indomtus. that will show them!

>> No.73724704

>>73724651
do you really think that matters to GW

>> No.73724706

>>73724605
75 per gun? Damn thats nice to hear

What about the melee options?

>> No.73724716

>>73724661
Your wish is slowly being granted right in front of your eyes, anon. The proverbial frog is being boiled easy as pie since marinebabbies are too retarded to understand or see it.

>> No.73724723

What makes AoS so much better than 40k?

>> No.73724732

>>73724704
I think it's gonna be SM and necrons, Sisters, CSM, daemons

>> No.73724735

>a squatted guard regiment is brought back, multipose, in plastic.

Which is it realistically? Which ideally is it for you?

>>73724696
Pic context?

>>73724723
Skaven and freeguild.

>> No.73724738

>>73724565
In august.
But the wave 2 is ALREADY sold out.
My wayland preorder was pushed to wave2, for examplle.

>> No.73724741

>>73724550
That's some SOUL right there

>>73724605
cry moar

>> No.73724743

>>73724723
Not the models, thats for sure.. or the lore or the setting or its....

>> No.73724746

>>73724723
Better writing

>> No.73724763

>>73724738
They've told you that?

>> No.73724765

>>73724589
>arbitrary
Well, yes and no. That seems to be the problem, they raised points formulaically despite it hitting different units in different ways, often unwarrantedly so. For reference: https://www.goonhammer.com/the-9th-edition-munitorum-field-manual-points-review/

>> No.73724768

>>73724592
They'll release jump-packed assault intercessors down the line, screencap this post

>> No.73724769

>>73724735
Realistically catachans.
Ideally I'd be happy with catachans or any ones with greatcoats

>> No.73724773

>>73724735
Gotta be Vostroyan, they're the most '40k' aesthetically.

It'll be cadian resculpts though and you know it.

>> No.73724776

>>73724741
>cry about a unit that's only ever been useful against noskills
Why would I? It's just funny.

>> No.73724789

>>73724723
Double-turn can fuck right off m8.

>> No.73724790

>>73724716
>frog is being boiled
Funny thing is frogs don't let themselves be boiled like this. It's just something that people say when they want to describe how everyone else takes things at face value without ever looking into it.

>> No.73724791

>>73724576
I wish I could afford Elysian from recasters.

>> No.73724796

>>73724768
no, it will be gravis with super jump packs and chain-lances

>> No.73724804

>>73724654

>mek shop post-beast
>noctilith crown
>sister sanctum
>not useful

>> No.73724809

>feel like posting another list i wont make because anons will say it's shit somehow because of blast or objectives
>decide not to repeat the cycle
THE CURSE IS BROKEN

>> No.73724823

>>73724723
Rules more or less built from the ground up and no encumbered by decades of legacy stuff
Better faction balance (not perfect, but better)
I'd honestly be happy to play AoS if there was a better player group for it in my area, but I still hate the double turns

>> No.73724827

>>73724654
Post your R+H.

>> No.73724830

>>73724791
Elysian and Krieg infantry now costs as much from recasters as Cadians from GW.

>> No.73724831

>>73724776
Didn't a storm cannon leviathan feature prominently in the list that made GW go "okay, we fucked up"?

>>73724676
GW is printing money right now, I wouldn't bet on it. Indomitus is absolutely flying off the shelves.

>> No.73724832

>>73724735
The most chinese looking of course. That's where they want to expand, not europe.

>> No.73724843

>>73724763
Yep, got a mail.

>> No.73724844

>>73724823
>Better faction balance (not perfect, but better)
Hedonites, Disciples, Ossiarchs and Seraphon? Honestly, I feel the only reason people say AoS is better balanced than 40k is because their tournament scene is much less cutthroat.

>> No.73724846

>>73724776
The short window when iron hands dominated the meta they were pretty obscene

>> No.73724851

>Considering a Night Lords army after current project
>See the warp-talon point change
Guess that'll wait for another edition.

>> No.73724854

Who else is waiting for geedumbs to decide that imperial soup should be done again, and removes the detatchment penalty for Imperium only?

>> No.73724858

>>73724642
Where in that text does it say sigmarxism?

>> No.73724866

>>73724830
>t. can’t afford cadians

>>73724832
The only one there is Attila Rough Riders, really, and they’re much less Chinese and more Mongolian. Do research anon.

>> No.73724867

>> No.73724869

>>73724858
look at the updoots

>> No.73724870

>>73724851
You can start now anon. Just use raptors.

>> No.73724875

>>73724844
>Honestly, I feel the only reason people say AoS is better balanced than 40k is because their tournament scene is much less cutthroat.
You might be right, but thats still a good thing. I meant more in terms of releases and focus though, especially once they stopped pushing Stormcast

>> No.73724880

>>73724790
>"The boiling frog is a fable describing a frog being slowly boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is put suddenly into boiling water, it will jump out, but if the frog is put in tepid water which is then brought to a boil slowly, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death."
Nah, it's definitely about not understanding what's being done to you, whether or not it's accurate in reality
>>73724804
Noctilith is great and all, but if I'm taking it I want an aegis defence line to go with it too
>>73724827
I'm at work and they're mostly Anvil industries models because of the theme I went for. Was planning on ordering actual R+H after I finish my plague marine project though

>> No.73724882

>>73724831
>GW is printing money
Ok but are the LGS getting any of it?

>> No.73724890

>>73724851
your mistake is making armies depending on what's meta or not

>> No.73724891

>>73724851
>using warp tainted and corrupted marines in your NL army
Our genefather would be disappointed in you

>> No.73724895

>>73724867
>Pask 185

Nani?

>> No.73724896

>Imagine being a Space Marines player
>It's been a year since you bought your Codex
>And the Supplement for your Chapter
>New edition comes
>Obligatory SM codex will be one of the first
>It's time to buy them all over again

>> No.73724901

>>73724844
>I feel the only reason people say AoS is better balanced than 40k is because their tournament scene is much less cutthroat.
you feel wrong

the reason is that there's much less shooting

>> No.73724905

>>73724763
>>73724843
Case in point.

(bought 3 boxes and lot of underworld units.)

>> No.73724906

>>73724844
It’s newer and more “kiddie” so the six figure boomers who buy a new army every errata stay away.

>> No.73724911

>>73724831
What, you mean waaaaay back in the beginning of 8th? Levis haven't been op for ages.
>>73724846
Chappy dreds were worse, and both of them it's purely because of being IH

>> No.73724912 [DELETED] 

>> No.73724919

>>73724882
Do you think GW gives a shit?

>> No.73724920

>>73724896
your jealous aren't you

>> No.73724921

is there somewhere i can look up necron points to do some theory crafting? starting 40k again with necrons. Not tainting my salamanders with primaris even if there are new meltas.

>> No.73724922

>>73724738
My order was wave one bitchhhhhh.
>>73724763
They said on the Indomitus page that they were doing a two wave order. They removed the entire listing after it sold out because the website could work normally again. I wouldn't assume it meant a second Indomitus wave was coming though. It could just mean that Wayland Games secured such a large order that they had to stagger it's delivery. They would only have so much storage space and shipping capacity after all.

>> No.73724924

>>73724896

>> No.73724929

>>73724890
It's not even about meta, it's about being playable. Did you see how expensive Talons are now?

>> No.73724930 [SPOILER] 

I want your opinions on the Psychic Awakening series. GW said that the events of the Psychic Awakening series would make the Horus Heresy and the 13th Black Crusade look like small skirmishes. The Psychic Awakening series was supposed to be "The Hour of our Demise". Did GW deliver on this hype?

Here is a poll for you guys :
https://www.strawpoll.me/20578158

>> No.73724931

>>73724723
That flying shark of course.

>> No.73724932

>>73724896
At least they're getting strong armies out of it now, remember in early to mid 8th edition when they were largely a joke

>> No.73724933

>>73724890
>warp-talon
>meta
O´boy!

>> No.73724935

>>73724911
Yeah true

>> No.73724936

>>73724896
NPCs are always the biggest paypigs

>> No.73724939

>>73724685
LET'S TALK ABOUT HIDING. IN 2ND EDITION, IN YOUR MOVEMENT PHASE, A UNIT WHICH MADE A NORMAL MOVE OR REMAINED STATIONARY COULD DECLARE THEY WERE GOING INTO HIDING IF THEY WERE IN COVER LIKE WOODS, RUINS OR CRATERS, OR BEHIND AN OBSTACLE LIKE A SOLID LOW WALL THEY COULD DUCK BEHIND. THIS RULE WAS BRILLIANT BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO COUNTER ALL THE BULLSHIT TRUE LINE OF SIGHT CAUSES TODAY. IT WAS SAYING "LOOK I KNOW YOU CAN PHYSICALLY SEE MY MODEL BECAUSE IT IS AN INERT PIECE OF PLASTIC THAT I ASSEMBLED IN A COOL POSE BUT IT'S JUST AN ABSTRACTION, IN REALITY THE SOLDIER WOULD BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF COVER AND NOT STANDING LIKE THAT IN THE OPEN TO GET SHOT IN THE FACE". SO MODELS GOING INTO HIDING GOT A HIDDEN COUNTER PLACED BESIDE THEM, AND YOU COULD NOT SHOOT THEM. JUST LIKE THAT. THEY WERE NOT IN LINE OF SIGHT. THE RULES SAID TO USE COMMON SENSE HERE - OBVIOUSLY YOU COULDN'T HIDE BEHIND A CHAIN-LIKE FENCE OR A LAMP POST EVEN IF IT SOMEWHAT OBSCURED THE MODEL. WE DON'T GET TO HAVE NICE RULES LIKE THAT THESE DAYS BECAUSE ASSHOLE TOURNAMENT AUTISTS NEED EVERYTHING DELINEATED AND DEFINED IN FUCKING PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE TO PREVENT THEM ATTEMPTING TO GO AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF THE RULES AT EVERY POSSIBLE TURN AND CHEAT AND BREAK THE GAME. FUCK BAD FAITH WAAC PLAYERS, YOU FAGGOTS ARE THE ACTUAL WORST.

ANYWAY, IF THE HIDDEN MODELS MOVED OUT OF COVER, OR FIRED, OR YOU MANEUVERED TROOPS AROUND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE OBSTACLE THAT WAS PARTIALLY OBSCURING THEM, THEY INSTANTLY LOST THE HIDDEN COUNTER. IN ADDITION, YOU COULD SPOT THEM BY MOVING TO WITHIN X" OF THE HIDDEN UNIT, WITH X BEING YOUR UNIT'S INITIATIVE, AS INITIATIVE IS A MEASURE OF NOT JUST REFLEXES BUT SENSES AND GENERAL AWARENESS. THUS SHARP-EYED ELVES HAD A HIGH STAT OF 5, WELL-TRAINED AND AUGMENTED MARINES HAD A DECENT ONE OF 4, GUARDSMEN HAD THE BASELINE 3, AND DIM-WITTED EASILY DISTRACTABLE ORKS HAD INITIATIVE 2, AND SO FORTH.

>> No.73724940

>>73724867
>veterans cost the same as cultists
Oh I'm 'avin a laff
>>73724882
Does a publicly traded company and their assload of consoomer basedboys care?

>> No.73724946

>cultists are back to being more points than guardsmen
>noise marines went up
>sonic blasters went up
>lord discordant jumped points and autocannon went up too.
>berserkers only went up a few points
>defiler got no changed
>terminators basically went untouched meaning the combibolter/chainaxe combo only costs 1 more ppm
>LoS technically went down in points if you take a certain weapon
Eh. Could be worse

>> No.73724947

>>73724617
>retailer prioritizes revenue stream that gives them a larger share of profits
i get it, still a shit thing to do to their customers (3rd party stores). as long as they didn't guarantee that all pre-orders would be honored there is really nothing that can be done.

>> No.73724949

>>73724912
Stop posting shitty memes.

>> No.73724952

>>73724901
>the reason is that there's much less shooting
What does that have to do with relative power levels?

>>73724911
No, the Richard Siegler "good luck I'm behind 10 immortal Intercessors" list that crushed LVO.

>> No.73724956

>>73724919
No. That’s why they shouldn’t carry it and most LGS I go to don’t beyond a handful of boxes.

>> No.73724959

>>73724930
>GW said that the events of the Psychic Awakening series would make the Horus Heresy and the 13th Black Crusade look like small skirmishes.
where did they say that

>> No.73724960

>>73724929
so what dude, if you like the army go for it

>> No.73724961

>>73724922
I think that's because at least one of my boxes had to be re-ordered anyway.
I got 4000 point to paint beforehand anyway, and my infinity airbrush is still in delivery hell.

>> No.73724971

>>73724628
>grots 5 ppm
>big mek with SAG + 40 points

>> No.73724979

>>73724930
>Did GW deliver on this hype?
Wut? lol no.

>> No.73724983

>>73724823
I'd be happy to play AoS if any of the factions that interested me had models that weren't 2 decades old. Revamped empire/freeguild lines WHEN

>> No.73724985

>>73724595
It's cheap beer with sugar. Served cool it's okay on parties.

>> No.73724987

>>73724930
psychic awakening is a mere prelude

>> No.73724997

>>73724939
A rule that is alive and well in bolt action, it's sad really.
It gets to the point where we will have to make our own living codex for everything.

>> No.73725002

>>73724723
They don't have 30 years of convoluted rules and history to contend with.

>> No.73725003

>>73724875
>I meant more in terms of releases and focus though, especially once they stopped pushing Stormcast
Oh absolutely no complaints there. Marines have 13 pages of points in CA20 compared to 12 for ALL XENOS PUT TOGETHER. Marines got three different Primaris release waves, each of which could plausibly qualify for a full army, in three years -- during the same time, Tyranids got 0 models. A given Marine unit has about seven special rules applying to it where most armies have two or three, on top of superior statlines and stratagems and such. List goes on.

>> No.73725004

>Squigbuggies 110 points, the same as Dragstas and Scrapjets
why do they think the Squigbuggy is good

>> No.73725005

>>73724959
Warhammer community articles that teased the series.

>> No.73725009

>>73724922
>My order was wave one bitchhhhhh.
I got confirmed by mail? Did you buy from wayland?

>> No.73725010

>>73724971
the shokk attack gun really shows how terrible the current relic system is.

with the relic the points hike is fair. without the relic its absolutely terrible and probably the worst unit in the game.

and they kept that dogshit relic system in 9th. fucking idiots.

>> No.73725017

>>73724869
Well fuck him then. But it's still very shitty by GW.

>> No.73725023

>>73724732
>csm and daemons together
haha no

>> No.73725027

>>73724979
How do you figure?

>> No.73725032

>>73724931
Old GW would have made a cyber shark on a Grav platform that was weaned on babies and used as “riot contol.”

>> No.73725037

>>73724896
>this negates the worst part of codex creep
>your army will always be relatively current and strong
its the tradeoff

>> No.73725042

>>73725027
In that it... didn’t make the HH or 13BC look like small skirmishes?

>> No.73725046

>>73724880

Providing a 5++ to cultists is the best use of the crown, and that's what they'd get in cover to begin with.

>> No.73725058

>>73724641
Space Marines
Necrons
Craftworld Eldar
Space Wolves
Chaos Marines
Tau
Imperial Guard
Orks
Ad Mech
Tyranids
Blood Angels

The rest get stuck in no new codex hell for a while

>> No.73725063

>>73724880
Did Mythbusters ever get around to boiling a frog before the inevitable sex scandal?

>> No.73725070

>>73725042
Not even the war for the Pariah Nexus?

>> No.73725071

>>73725010
Yeah, I appreciate that they put a lot of systems into CP to make it more useful as a balancing lever, but relics not costing points skews them a lot.

>> No.73725079

>>73725063
What sex scandal?

>> No.73725083

>>73724952
>What does that have to do with relative power levels?
melee offers universal counters in the form of alternate activation, screening, surrounding and so on
shooting doesn't and allows for drastically easier concentrated strikes that can cripple an army in one turn

it's no wonder than what's considered OP in aos is what can have the following: maneuverability/fly and "initiative priority"

>> No.73725085

>>73724939
TYRANIDS, BEING GENETICALLY ENGINEERED SUPER PREDATORS, HAD VERY HIGH INITIATIVE BECAUSE THEY HAD HIGHLY ATTUNED SENSES, JUST LIKE MOST PREDATORY ANIMALS IN NATURE. I KEEP TALKING ABOUT HOW GW REMOVING THE INITIATIVE STAT IS FUCKING STUPID IN MODERN EDITIONS AND I'M BRINGING IT UP AGAIN BECAUSE IT REALLY WAS COOL FOR THINGS LIKE THIS.

THE LICTOR AS YOU CAN SEE HAD NOT ONLY VERY HIGH INITIATIVE, BUT ALSO THE ENHANCED SENSES TRAIT MEANT IT COULD SPOT HIDDEN UNITS AT TWICE THAT RANGE, UP TO 16". THIS WAS GREAT BECAUSE THIS WAS THE RANGE OF ITS FLESH HOOKS. YOU COULD NOT HIDE FROM THE LICTOR. IT WOULD FUCKING FIND YOU.

BUT SCARIER STILL, YOU COULD NOT EVEN SPOT THE LICTOR IF YOU GOT IN RANGE OF IT WHILE IT WAS HIDING. YOU COULD ONLY DETECT IT. DETECTING MEANS YOU CAN'T DRAW LINE OF SIGHT TO FIRE WEAPONS DIRECTLY, YOU CAN ONLY ATTEMPT TO HIT IT WITH BLASTS AND FLAMER TEMPLATES, WHICH WOULD HIT ON A 4+ IF THEY COVERED THE MODEL.

NOW, LICTORS DEPLOYED USING INFILTRATE. THIS MEANT THAT AFTER BOTH SIDES DEPLOYED ALL THEIR SHIT, AND THE TYRANID PLAYER KNEW EXACTLY WHERE HIS OPPONENT'S STUFF WAS (EXCEPT OTHER INFILTRATORS, DEPENDENT ON A DICE ROLL FOR WHO GOES FIRST), YOU, THE NID PLAYER, COULD THEN DEPLOY THAT LICTOR ANYWHERE ON THE TABLE OUT OF LINE OF SIGHT. THIS INCLUDED HIDING, MEANING IT DIDN'T NEED TRUE LINE OF SIGHT. YOU JUST NEEDED A PIECE OF AREA TERRAIN OR AN OBSTACLE WITH NO ENEMY UNITS ON THE WRONG SIDE OF IT. AS LONG AS YOU HAD THAT YOU COULD EVEN DEPLOY IN THE ENEMIES DEPLOYMENT ZONE, AND THEY COULDN'T EVEN SHOOT YOU, AND THEY COULDN'T EVEN SPOT YOU.

>> No.73725094

>noon EST
>still no update on the community site about indomitus and the preorder shit pile
>only update is one of their shitty web comics

>> No.73725098

Just got the Stern box. Any questions about its contents? Imma gonna read the novel soon.

>> No.73725099

>>73725004
GW is so functionally retarded that I question how it's not an american company.
Then I remember that brits are like americans but worse and cucked, so it makes sense.
>>73725010
Case in point
>>73725046
>giving 6ppm trash a 5++
>not giving your vehicles a 5++

>> No.73725102

>>73724549
Played some Necromunda last night

>> No.73725103

>>73725079
Adam Savage allegedly abused his sister.

>> No.73725104

>>73724930
I thought it was alright. I like missions and narrative shit like Theaters of War. I am not a brainlet so I didn't buy into hype. I don't remember them saying it would make the Horus Heresy and the 13th Black Crusade look like small skirmishes, but if they did and you believed them then it's your fault for being gullible.

Some were better than others. Blood of Baal was lame like everything about the Tyranids invading Baal has been lame. Phoenix Rising had some cool missions involving Imperial Guard simping for Dark Eldar. I actually thought Pariah was the best book because it wasn't about meta updates.

Some of the fluff was pretty neat too, like The Thousand Sons building an Magnus-worshipping empire around Prospero. I liked the Echos of Awakening. Those were always cool.

>> No.73725105

>>73725010
and they locked that particular relic behind a CP detachment paywall

>> No.73725111

>>73725079
He's probably referring to jamie's schizo sister trying to make claims yet again
>>73725083
I'd kill for actual alternating activations in the game. God it would solve so much of the issues with shooting.

>> No.73725116

>>73725085
what if tyranids in 2ed were just OP?

>> No.73725120

>>73725099
Gw doesn't give a shit about the game being good just selling models

>> No.73725124

>>73724671

hey what colors did you use there, I like that base blue

>> No.73725125

>>73725104
Why are you justifying GW lying to the fanbase?How many boatloads of cash did they send you to shill like this?!

>> No.73725127

>>73725098
How does the buttplug feel?
>>73725102
Imagine playing a game that's actually good baka my head. Come back to the 40k shitheap, anon.

>> No.73725135

pfft

>> No.73725136

>>73725094
Lets just wait until after I've sold the Space Marine half of my box to announce the next box. Then GW can announce most of Indomitus is in the next box, so the price of Necrons crashes and I can end up with 3 lots of Indomitus Necrons and still have spent nothing.

>> No.73725141

>>73724617
>communist LGS
can you just go in and grab any kit? Any player's army?

>> No.73725143

>>73725135
Fake news, not taking into account weapons costs.

>> No.73725145

>>73725135
wtf is that, explain

>> No.73725146

>>73724939
>ANYWAY, IF THE HIDDEN MODELS MOVED OUT OF COVER
Cover & concealment are very different things. But a concealment rule like the one in 2nd would be cool.

>> No.73725154

>>73724595
some people enjoy making themselves suffer

>> No.73725155

>>73725125
>Why are you justifying GW lying to the fanbase?
Fuck Games Workshops fanbase. I hate thos

>> No.73725163

>>73725124
Blue's just Thunderhawk Blue, the highlight is Fenrisian Grey.

>> No.73725168

>>73725099

>not playing iron warriors so you can use those seas of now-sturdy bodies to make your havocs or obliteraters completely untargetable, and babysitting them with an apostle to make them ld9 and -1 to hit too

and besides it's an aura, not like you can't do both

>> No.73725170

>>73725127
Surprisingly good but it's dangerous. It has no proper handle so it can easily slip in and get lost.

>> No.73725172

>>73725135
They rolled almost all the eldar weapon costs into the model

>> No.73725177

>>73724592
>when will GW roll out the better sniper rules to non-Primaris factions?
The sanctus for GSC and vindicare for imperials are both good examples of snipers. More snipers for more factions would be nice though.

>> No.73725184

>>73725154

>> No.73725187

>>73724930
Literally fucking nothing happened

>> No.73725194

>>73725141
They're american, they don't understand what the term 'communism' means. Much like you, in fact, since your joke was based on taking the shit rather than a commie being a business owner
>>73725120
Yes? That was part of my joke?
>>73725146
Honestly the easiest thing to do would be omnipresent use of area terrain. "You are within terrain feature's base? Okay, you have cover"

>> No.73725203

>>73725145
Shake up with new plastic Aspect Warriors, Eldar are going to be an even smaller, even more elite army like Custodes.

>> No.73725206

>>73725094
I can't even be arsed to check WarCom anymore after they implemented the captcha shit. Like I'm gonna search 18 pics for buses every time I go visit their marketing central

>> No.73725209

>>73725070
The Emperor didn’t get mortally wounded during PN war, baka lorelet

>> No.73725210

>>73725116
They weren't.
Imperial herohammer was.

>> No.73725211

So. When are GSC and R&H players gonna start killing themselves?

>> No.73725214

when can I find point values for everything?

>> No.73725216

>>73724617
>it's everyone who suffers
no, only the ants
tyranids included

>> No.73725217

>>73725098
hows the stamp?

>> No.73725221

>>73724549

>> No.73725222

>>73725085
THIS IS NOT DEEP STRIKE. THIS IS MORE AKIN TO THE MODERN RULES FOR PHOBOS DEPLOYMENT, EXCEPT IT'S EVEN BETTER THAN THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO 9" RANGE RESTRICTION, IT WAS BASED ON TERRAIN INSTEAD, WHICH NOT ONLY GAVE YOU THE POTENTIAL TO AVOID THE STUPID OMNIPRESENT 9" BUBBLE OF 8E BUT IT WAS MORE FAIR THAN PLACING ANYWHERE BECAUSE IT COULD BE PLAYED AROUND USING SMART POSITIONING FROM YOUR OPPONENT, AND IT WAS MORE IMMERSIVE BECAUSE YOU AREN'T WONDERING HOW SOMETHING SNUCK ONTO THE BATTLEFIELD RIGHT OUT IN THE FUCKING OPEN, IT WAS ACTUALLY SOMEWHERE IT COULD REASONABLY BE HIDING.

(BRIEF SIDENOTE, MOST PEOPLE BACK THEN WOULD JUST DEPLOY THEIR INFILTRATOR MODELS NORMALLY WITH A HIDDEN COUNTER NEXT TO THEM, BUT WITH LICTORS IT WAS FUN, AND A COMMON AESTHETIC HOUSERULE, TO JUST DEPLOY THE HIDDEN COUNTER ITSELF, OR LIKE A BLIP COUNTER FROM SPACE HULK, THE SAME WAY GSC DOES CULT AMBUSH TODAY, AND YOU WOULD ONLY PUT THE LICTOR MODEL ITSELF ON THE TABLE WHEN IT BURST OUT OF HIDING. YOU MADE IT EXPLICITLY CLEAR TO YOUR OPPONENT WHAT THE BLIP WAS REPRESENTING, BUT IT COULD ONLY BE ONE THING AND THEY USUALLY ALREADY KNEW. TRUST ME, THEY KNEW.)

MODERN 40K USES DEEP STRIKE FOR LICTORS BECAUSE ?????? THE DESIGNERS FUCKING SUCK. WHICH MEANS YOU ARE LIMITED TO NOT ARRIVING UNTIL THE 2ND TURN, BUT NO LATER THAN THE 3RD TURN! BUT ALSO YOU GET SCREENED OUT BY THESE STUPID 9" BUBBLES, BUT ALSO THERE'S NO REAL COUNTERPLAY FROM YOUR OPPONENT BY SMARTLY AVOIDING THE FORESTS AND RUINS WHERE A LICTOR WOULD LIKE TO LURK!

>> No.73725223

>>73725009
Not him but I got an email confirming I was wave 1.

>> No.73725227

>>73725168
Running aegis/noctilith combo paired with some cultist chaff, havocs, and vehicles is dumb fun.
>>73725170
The danger only adds to the enjoyment. It's even more exciting if you have to pay for american healthcare

>> No.73725228

Anyone got the new tournament missions or Secondary Objectives?

>> No.73725231

>>73724930

Lore wise, boring as shit aside from a few of Faith and Fury's cool theaters of war. Until, that is, you hit Pariah, and suddenly Necrons are fucking awesome and intimidating again.

So, like, one and a half out of twelve. Ouch.

>> No.73725233

>>73724641
Chaos Daemons are the worst codex with the oldest and most poorly made rules
It would be extremely retarded not to put them on the beginning of the edition

So yeah, I think your prediction is right

>> No.73725241

>>73725211
R&H players can't kill themselves, we're already dead inside.

>> No.73725244

>>73725211
>implying there's any actual R&H players left after 8th
I just run mine as guard nowadays. This wasn't a surprise, though it was disappointing.

>> No.73725247

>>73725221
It’s stimulating me well.

>> No.73725250

Post displays

>> No.73725253

Oh happy day!
>Daemonettes only go up 1 point per model

>> No.73725263

>>73724790
It actually doesn't take much heat to fuck frog leg muscles. About the same as what they sense as 'danger'.
It's nothing to do with a frog being stupid and everything about how they physically can't do anything.
Like cutting someone's Achilles tendon and laughing at how they can't run away.

>> No.73725264

>>73725217
Neat. I need to find some ink to test it out.

>> No.73725266

>>73725250
damn son that's a sexy shelf where did you get it?

>> No.73725268

>>73725223
I took a look.
Half the stuff I bought isn't in stock until august, it make sense I guess they would push it to august even though I got in among the first.

>> No.73725270

>>73725141
GW wouldn't be nearly as shit under a socialist system. Half the reason they suck so much balls is the neoliberal "Muh fiduciary duty to shareholders" which makes it literally unethical to do anything that doesn't maximize profit.

>> No.73725271

>>73725253
Blast weapons will demolish them anyway

>> No.73725275

>>73724851
>Wanting to play an armor based on terror
>Chose the army that got spooked is now shook over dark eldar mandrakes
Interesting choice

>> No.73725278

>>73724723
There is an amazing feeling of building an army taht can play on both games.
Slaanesh daemons is fun in AoS, while being strong, and very fun in 40k depise being on the weaker side, though that never stop me from winning leagues, specially when I can field up 2 Keepers in a 1k game, that the t'au player can only wound on 6+ (-1 to wr Exalted trait).
For 40k on the more competitive side, I have my Custodes, which returned to me recently, known for being weak before, but amazing now. I can't wait until my terminators reach me, though will only paint them when i finish my Slaanesh daemons, need to put myselft in a more position of control and finish one army (or at least be presetable (need those +10 VP) before moving to another.

>> No.73725279

>>73725187
The Ynnari got reamed and now their hope and optimism is gone. The Thousand Sons created an empire around Prospero and captured dozens of Grey Knights. Ghazkull got his head cut off but got better. Typhus got embarrassed. Bile got some living Sisters of Silence to add to his harem. The Silent King returned and accomplished what the Emperor only dreamed of.

>> No.73725280

>>73725214
the warhammer competitive subreddit has a meta thread for all points and individual threads for each army broken down.

>> No.73725283

>>73725264
it doesn't come with ink? whats the point then.

>> No.73725286

>>73725263
Idk if they do it any more, but I once saw a documentary about how in France they just cut off the frog’s legs without killing them. Pretty shit.

>> No.73725292

>>73725279
>Bile got some living Sisters of Silence to add to his harem.
What will he do with the sisters of snu snu?

>> No.73725296

>>73725283
To be fair, I wouldn't risk giving ink in the set either on the off chance it were to break or leak and ruin everything else.

>> No.73725299

>>73724595
when you want to black out twice as quickly

>> No.73725303

>>73725264
Its not for ink, its a wax seal to be used with the wax you got.

>> No.73725305

>>73725286
That's false.

>> No.73725311

>>73724617
>get into a business where you're relying on one vendor to stay afloat

kek, GW are cunts but they've been cunts long enough to know what you're getting into.
If you're struggling to make end meets on a single pre-order messup, you shouldnt be in business in the first place.

I aint got pity for LGS sob stories. We need more wargaming clubs and less morons try to live off a niche hobby.

>> No.73725316

>>73725266
Ikea milsbo cabinet

>> No.73725322

>>73724746
How? The whole realms BS shouldnhave made it impossible

>> No.73725323

>>73725305
Is it? Source?
(Not doubting just like to be sure)

>> No.73725325

>>73725292
Female Chaos Space Marines
Elite option
basicly EC Noise Marine 2W Chosen

>> No.73725332

>>73725279
>The Silent King returned and accomplished what the Emperor only dreamed of.
Being?

>> No.73725335 [SPOILER] 

>>73725299
Weak, real hobo take this

>> No.73725336

>>73725275
I've got Dark Eldar chilling. No mandrakes though. Don't really want to fuck with finecast. I like the bat and lightning aesthetic.

>> No.73725339

>>73725085
Not being able to shoot the lictor sounds retardedly unfun. At least let me make snapshots at it or something.

>> No.73725343

what in the fuck
>Nurglings 18
?????

>> No.73725346

>>73725303
Ohhhh so that's what the candle is for. No way I am going melt it. It looks cool.

>> No.73725349

>>73725263
Imagine the cunt that watched this and concluded that the frog was just too stupid to jump out. Actually this makes the myth even more ironic given how often it is used to criticize people that couldn't do anything about their situation in the first place.

>> No.73725350

>>73724723
less shooting
less marines
less cornered lore

these are the three things that make aos better

>> No.73725358

>>73725325

You joke, but he does have one augmented lady who is on par with marines in his novels. Probably going to happen.

>> No.73725360

Do we know all the forgeworld point costs yet?

>> No.73725368

>>73725116
I WAS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO SUGGEST THIS. IT MIGHT SEEM THIS WAY IF YOU NEVER PLAYED IT, AND ARE USED TO TYRANIDS SUCKING MAJOR FUCKING DICK. BUT FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THEY JUST WEREN'T. IF YOU PLAYED 2E BACK THEN YOU WOULD KNOW. THEY WEREN'T UTTERLY DOMINATING EVERY GAME. THEY WERE SCARY, FUN, BUT BEATABLE, AND THEY TOOK SKILL TO PLAY WELL. THERE WERE NO MOUNTAINS OF FORUM POSTS IN 2E ABOUT THE TYRANID MENACE WRECKING EVERYONE'S SHIT THE WAY WE SAW FROM TAUDAR IN 7TH OR IRON HANDS WITH THE RECENT 8E 2.0 MARINES.

>>73725222
IT SHOULD BE CLEAR WHY INFILTRATE IS NOT ONLY THE BETTER RULE TO REPRESENT WHAT THE FUCKING THING IS ACTUALLY DOING, BUT ALSO, DOESN'T COME WITH STUPID NERFS LIKE NEEDING TO NOW ROLL A 9" CHARGE, WHICH, AS WE ESTABLISHED EARLIER >>73724469, IS A DOUBLE NERF TO ARMIES WITH HIGH MOVEMENT SPEED BECAUSE THAT HIGH MOVE STAT DOESN'T HELP CHARGE ROLLS FROM DEEP STRIKE. AT LEAST GW WAS NOT SO COMPLETELY UTTERLY INEPT THAT THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THIS, AND THEY THREW US A BONE WITH THE RE-ROLL CHARGES CLAUSE THAT LICTORS GET, WHICH MOST DEEP STRIKERS DON'T. BUT IF THEY UNDERSTOOD DEEP STRIKE DIDN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THEM WITHOUT THE RE-ROLL, WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST GIVE THEM CONCEALED FUCKING POSITIONS? AND DON'T TRY AND TELL ME MARINES WITH CAPRI POWER SHORTS ARE SNEAKIER THAN A MOTHERFUCKING LICTOR ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE A STRIPPED DOWN GODDAMN FUCKING DREADNOUGHT WITH THEM. PRIMARIS JUST GET ALL THE DARLING RULES AND EVERYONE ELSE GETS FUCKED. THEY DID THIS BECAUSE FUCK TYRANID PLAYERS.

SO IN 2E I COULD DEPLOY MY LICTOR BEFORE THE START OF THE GAME, HIDDEN BEHIND A CHUNK OF CRATER OR SOMETHING IN THE ENEMY DEPLOYMENT ZONE. IF I GOT FIRST TURN, I COULD THEN MAKE A 12" CHARGE. NO DICE ROLLING, NO BULLSHIT, JUST FUCKING 12" THREAT BUBBLE. OR I COULD SHOOT MY FLESH HOOKS, WHICH BACK THEN, ACTUALLY DID WHAT THEY DO IN THE LORE - YOINK TASTY PREY MORSELS CLOSER, POTENTIALLY STRAIGHT INTO MELEE. WHAT DO FLESH HOOKS DO TODAY? THEY'RE JUST A 6" PISTOL.

>> No.73725369

>>73725332
Getting rid of psykers.

>> No.73725374

>>73725343
so they stayed the same per mini in a squad?

>> No.73725378

>>73725299
>6.9%
Anon, just buy some high gravity stuff.
Or, 4loco, if you don't care about taste.

>> No.73725381

>>73725311

>> No.73725396

>>73725332

>> No.73725400

>>73724628
I dont understand why. Demons got shafted too they army were pretty mediocre. Congrats your overpriced GD with a 5+ is no 30 points more!

>> No.73725402

>>73725349
>old timey peasants would have been able to understand that heat makes frog muscles not work
Their conclusion is the opposite of surprising. Fuck frog eaters and all, but it's a workable phrase.

>> No.73725405

>>73725085
Not being able to shoot the Lictor is awful dude. Sorry you miss your shitty OP rules. 8e should have taught you stacking modifiers into an impossibility of hitting is total dogshit.

>> No.73725408

>>73725264
>>73725283
>>73725296
It's a wax seal stamp.
It's why you literally get the candle right next to it.

The stamp works fine but if you plan to do a lot of sealing, get proper sealing wax pellets and a melting spoon, a large tablespoon works also. Sealing wax candles can leave behind ash to smudge on the paper and once it get to short you'll need a melting spoon anyway.

>> No.73725410

>>73725396
>the only canon female necron model so far has no legs

proof that necrons were a hopeless society

>> No.73725412

>>73725358
Her name is Savona, the leader of the EC Chosen.

Not really augmented, she is just a mortal champion in power armor.

>> No.73725422

>>73725368
>THERE WERE NO MOUNTAINS OF FORUM POSTS IN 2E
By-and-large because online discussion of 40k didn't really exist. Conventions and tournaments were how people got most of their information. of course it was mostly eldar and space wolves that were the "cheesiest" in those days

>> No.73725425

>>73725396
Based

>> No.73725426

>Sanguinari Guard 20 - 24pts
>Encarmine Sword 8-10
>Encarmine Axe 9-10
>Power Fist 9-10
>DC 15-19

There is just no reason to put sword on SG after this.

>> No.73725430

>>73725396
I'd vote for him

>> No.73725431

>>73724723
Anons who just wants to get comfy and play 4th ed Fantasy. A true mans game. No pre measuring, no gay ass space marines.

>> No.73725434

>>73725374
yes, the only that doesn't change daemon troop choice

>> No.73725437

>>73725405
Even if you couldn't shoot it, what's it going to do with its piss poor melee ? Fuck's sake he would have trouble killing a single primaris

>> No.73725440

>>73725325
>GW: Here, we give you female fucking space marines like you've been bitching for
>GW: But they're chaos only, so if you want to play female space marines you get CSM rules

>> No.73725450

>>73725396
anon take a closer look at the thighs on the scion models and remember that they could very well be girls under those helmets

>> No.73725456

>>73724869
Is it because the Mortal Realms are infinite and therefore possess infinite resources that these people latched into AoS?

>> No.73725463

>>73725430
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>> No.73725470

>Warhammer 40,000 Limited Edition Core Rule Book
>Sold out online
>Fuckers are really paying for a $200 rulebook
Some things about this hobby I will just never understand

>> No.73725472

>>73725431
>no premeasuring
I have always thought that bullshit was so stupid on so many levels. What the fuck does it add to the experience? Your contractor/carpenter friends get an innate advantage. Whoopty-fucking-do.

>> No.73725478

>>73725323
The only reference to your claim I see is a 2009 campain by swiss ecologists.
It sure as fuck doesn't concern our two local producer in the manche and the drôme.

>> No.73725483

>>73725456
>infinite and therefore possess infinite resources
never been the case, even at the time of release we got a rough measure of the size of the realms that put them in an entirely smaller order of magnitude compared to a galaxy's worth of planets

>> No.73725489

PSA: If you are only a tourney player, the grand tournament pack has all of the relevant matched play rules in it. The main rule book is an unnecessary purchase.

Hoping to save some people $60.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WarhammerCompetitive/comments/hp95hn/psa_if_you_are_only_a_tourney_player_the_grand/

>> No.73725492

>>73725440
>The only female marine faction is the one trying to destroy everything out of bitterness and spite.
Tbh I would get a Traitor Legion of Blue Haired Word Bearers with daemon accompaniment in a heartbeat.

>> No.73725500

>>73725470
Some people just have too much money.

>> No.73725505

>>73725422
>because online discussion of 40k didn't really exist.
Mutatis mutandis, you are not correct to think that.

>> No.73725507

>>73725470
The fact that indomitus camevwith the regular rule book and models but was still cheaper than the limited edition rule book makes me scratch my head

>> No.73725512

>>73725470
Not everyone is a poorfag.

>> No.73725513

>>73725470
I mean, if it looks neat and they like the art maybe it's worth it? Obviously it's mostly mindless consumers that bought it, but there could be a theoretical reason to make it look like a neat purchase.

>> No.73725515

Victory is mine !

>> No.73725517

>>73724930
It wasn't terrible but it didnt remotely live up to the hype, I expected big shit, and I also was expecting an actual theme of psychic focused stuff for the releases!

>> No.73725522

>>73725507
It's literally gilded with gold, man.

>> No.73725525

>>73725339
>>73725405
YOU CAN SHOOT IT WITH BLAST WEAPONS (INCLUDING GRENADES WHICH MOST TROOPS HAD), FLAMERS (WOW FLAMERS ACTUALLY BEING GOOD FOR SOMETHING? FLUSHING HIDDEN UNITS OUT OF COVER WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY THEY EXIST??), OR YOU COULD GO INTO OVERWATCH AND WAIT FOR IT TO CHARGE, THEN INTERRUPT ITS MOVEMENT WITH A SHOOTING ATTACK WHEN IT'S OUT OF COVER.

OVERWATCH WAS ACTUALLY GOOD AND MADE SENSE BACK THEN. IT DIDN'T GIVE YOU FREE EXTRA SHOOTING - IT WAS DELAYING YOUR SHOOTING FROM YOUR OWN SHOOTING PHASE INTO THE ENEMIES TURN (AND IT WAS AT FULL BALLISTIC SKILL UNLESS YOU WERE BEING CHARGED OR THE TARGET WAS LEAVING COVER, WHICH GAVE ONLY A -1 PENALTY) TO AVOID WEIRD ABSTRACT PROBLEMS OF A TURN-BASED SYSTEM. LIKE THE PROBLEM OF TAU SUITS USING JUMP-SHOOT-JUMP, WOULD NEVER HAVE EXISTED IF WE KEPT 2E OVERWATCH. IT WAS TACTICAL, FAIR, SMART, AND BALANCED.

THIS IS TOO COMPLICATED FOR GW TODAY, APPARENTLY. BUT SLOWING DOWN THE GAME MASSIVELY BY HAVING EVERY CHARGING UNIT GET AUTOMATICALLY SHOT BY A FREE EXTRA SHOOTING PHASE AT BS 6+ WAS FINE, UNTIL NOW WHEN IT'S A STRATAGEM THAT YOU CAN PAY COMMAND POINTS FOR. OKAY GW. WHATEVER YOU SAY GW.

>>73725368
WE DON'T GET RULES WITH SOUL LIKE FLESH HOOKS ANYMORE. WE GET A 16" WEAPON REDUCED TO 6" AND THE EQUIVALENT BS 3+ OF A CREATURE WITH HIGHLY HONED SENSES REDUCED TO BS 4+ AND IT LOSES THE MAIN FUCKING REASON THEY EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE, TO DRAG STUFF SCREAMING INTO THE SHADOWS WHERE IT GOT BUTCHERED. FUCK GW. FLESH HOOKS WERE ALSO A BIOMORPH BY THE WAY, SO YOU COULD STICK THESE ON A BROOD OF 6 WARRIORS AND JUST FLESH HOOK THE EVERLOVING SHIT OUT OF A SQUAD, THAT WAS A FUN OPTION.

>>73725472
I AGREE WITH THIS, THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW RULES I DON'T MISS FROM 2E. NO PREMEASURING DIDN'T MAKE ANYTHING BETTER. BEING ABLE TO GUESS RANGES WASN'T A FUN OR WORTHY SKILL, IT JUST LED TO GAMEY SHIT AND PEOPLE FINDING WAYS AROUND IT LIKE USING THE TILE SEAMS ON THE BOARD AS GUIDES OR SOMETHING.

>> No.73725539

>>73725483
Still, if i remember right a single realm is fuckhuge (i'd say jupiter sized if i remember the distances given from the brimstone peninsula)

>> No.73725541

>>73725472

Its called "tactical depth" in the context of tabletop wargames.

Its a physical skill that can be learned to play the game better. It also drives off children. *cough*

>> No.73725543

>>73725431
>no pre measuring
imagine being so much of a faggoty grog that you think pre measuring is a bad thing.
You stupid fuck
You absolute moron
You complete tard
Even discounting the inherent advantage it gives people who are used to gauging distance, like veteran players, over people who aren't, like new players, you have people like me with vision issues that make it essentially impossible to gauge distance accurately.
Being against premeasuring is stupid as fuck and a laughably dated grogrule.

>> No.73725549

>>73725450
Post proof, google is not confirming this.

>> No.73725555

>>73725500
>>73725512
I wonder what it's like to just drop $200 on a rulebook with a different cover from the normal one and not even think about it?
>>73725507
Yah, that's the craziest part honestly

>> No.73725557

>>73725515
>Tau
How to win at games but lose at life

>> No.73725564

>>73725541
Having to do ten pushups before being able to charge any unit would also help by that measure

>> No.73725582

>>73725426
they look cool

>> No.73725583

>white scars get to advance and shoot assault weapons without penalty
bueno

>> No.73725585

>>73725541
No it just adds a memory element to the game. Whoever can remember when they measured during their movement phase will win.

>> No.73725589

>>73725525
What are your thoughts on T'au?

>> No.73725594

>>73725515
what gayme is that, if I may ask?

>> No.73725595

honestly don't know what will kill me first, the ork point changes or the cancer

>> No.73725596

>>73725470
This is an unironic goal in the modern era of hypercapitalism, and boy fucking howdy did GW succeed

>> No.73725599

>>73725543

> calling people with more knowledge stupid

Take your Kyle 1 ass back to the basement

>> No.73725601

>>73725564
>What killed all the Melee players in your store, Anon?
>Covid-19 of course.

>> No.73725603

>>73725564
Once per turn if you can juggle 5 dice for 30 seconds you get to add them to a roll. Also if you hold your breath during the psychic phase you get +1 to your tests.

>> No.73725604

>>73725589
C R I N G E

>> No.73725606

>>73725589
Once again, learn to highlight

>> No.73725610

>>73725412

Bruh she has daemon hooves and is as tall as an eldar. She's augmented as fuck, whether by bionics, surgery, or warpfuckery.

>> No.73725620

>Death Company Intercessors still can't all take chainswords and bolt pistols

FUCKING WHY

>> No.73725622

>Chaos Space Marine - 14 points

>Intercessor - 20 points

>> No.73725627

>>73725589
My feelings of T'au depend immensily from player to player. It's an army I love to play against players that really know how to play wargaming (not just Castle up) and have amazing painted models, specially those weather-heavy with OSL effects.
Grey-tiders, newbies and such it's just a bore to play against. Also the fitness of the player influence immense, since T'au is very dependent in LoS so fitter people will show less butt-cracks.

>> No.73725630

>>73725585

Mmmm no. Normally what you do is use terrain for help. You haven't actually played with no premeasuring, have you?

>> No.73725635

>>73725622
Honestly ridiculous. This game is fucked everyone just play Space Marines or ban Space Marines.

>> No.73725636

>>73725620
Because they are intercessors not assault intercessors

>> No.73725637

>>73725620
Revenge for 5th edition. Fuck you Blood Angels.

>> No.73725640

>>73725543
>>73725472
ASS MAD BABIES you see the exact people I want gone from the game. Being able to gauge distance was a skill you learned from playing it was a balancing factor of it's own. Either you let it be completely random with dice or you reward people for playing. Hmmm I wonder what the better option is. Warhammer is already dice random generator.

>> No.73725651

>>73725564

I mean, look at yourself. Would the pushup thing be so bad?

>> No.73725656

>>73725606
At least I'm not a gray plastic faggot like you.

>>73725627
We should play some time.

>> No.73725662

>>73725640
Different anon. No premeasuring is stupid and adds nothing to the game worthwhile. I ignore it games that have it as a rule.

>> No.73725663

>>73725640
I can smell that post

>> No.73725669

>>73725640

They are probably literally children. Like I said before, it was a key component in keeping small, spastic children out of the game.

>> No.73725670

>>73724529
Trying to decide on the scheme for my /yourdudes/ chapter which at this point are going to be salamanders successors. Which should I pick?

>> No.73725675

Why are people talking like Space Marines being top of the meta is something normal instead of the exception? Remember that before the last codex the last time they were good was at the end of 7th edition.

>> No.73725679

>> No.73725681

lmao no more 2++

>> No.73725686

>>73725670
D

>> No.73725688

>>73725541
Go away and take your antiquated pointless filler rules with you.
>>73725525
Being able to shoot it with blast weapons doesn't matter. Not being able to shoot it once its discovered is bullshit. It just screams "you dont get to play the game until I say you get to play" which is just horrid game design.

>> No.73725690

>The worst unit in the book got even more worse
but why

>> No.73725693

>>73725604

>> No.73725700

>>73725662

> can barely type in complete sentences
> threatens to not play games with no premeasuring

Maybe its for the best.

>> No.73725705

>>73725440

>> No.73725706

>>73725541>>73725599
>>73725640
My opponent wearing a cum stained t-shirt adds tactical depth because I'm trying to actively avoid thinking about it, and scares off children too.
Fucking retard. Truly astounding.

>> No.73725713

Alright who else feels like their army is looking pretty fucked?

>> No.73725714

>>73725700
I play games with no premeasring. I just ignore no premeasuring

>> No.73725718

>>73725675
You mean the awful formations with the drop pods ? The end of 7th was a shitshow

>> No.73725721

>>73725675
This. I started in 4th when everybody shat on marines especially Daemonbomb Chaos.

>> No.73725722

>>73725610
It's warpfuckery, she is a champion of chaos.

She is better than a normal human, that's for sure, but champions don't come in groups, they are the exception.

>> No.73725723

>>73724549
I got absolutely spanked by the yiffs

>> No.73725724

What can GW do to boost the popularity of Xenos factions?

>> No.73725733

>>73725706

Thats the kind of critical thinking we need more of in the hobby!

>> No.73725735

>>73725670
I think C looks best myself.

>> No.73725739

>>73725595
oof
>>73725599
lol
>>73725622
>>73725635
Most marine players need the crutch

>> No.73725740

What are the best playlists to have in the background during a warhammer match? Bonus for tracks that go well for specific situations/battlefields,etc.

>> No.73725746

>>73725630
>Mmmm no.
Faggot.
>You haven't actually played with no premeasuring, have you?
6th edition Fantasy. It resulted in one of my friends refusing to concede a game because he'd memorized my units distance from his units at the start of the game on the basis of deployment zones and then counted them in his head for the duration. Except he got it wrong because his count of where my unit was varied from where it actually was, so he insisted it couldn't be where it was when his cannon missed.

Such is the joys of no premeasuring.

>> No.73725749

>>73725724
Better models, fun rules.

>> No.73725753

>>73725670
You know that C is the Sons of Horus scheme right?

>> No.73725757

>>73725669
If you're old enough to be unironically making this claim it's incredibly sad that you're here.

>> No.73725759

>>73725724
Hype them up and give them releases.

>> No.73725768

New FAQs are up
nids get nothing good

>> No.73725769

Should I read the 8th codexes to understand the armies better or just wait for 9th? I haven't played a proper game of 40k ever, even if I owned models since I was 10.

>> No.73725770

>>73725512

>> No.73725773

>>73725724

Continue power creep indefinitely or at least until the sun swallows the earth

>> No.73725774

>>73725724
More actual support instead if token handouts, look how well sisters of battle went over, people ate it up, in general make sure a mini that's old enough to drink has a viable plastic replacement in the pipeline

>> No.73725775

>>73725396
Those tags hid behind them some quality content

>> No.73725776

>>73725724
Release good models for them. Genestealer cults proved that's all that's needed.
Just throw out the next few primaris releases and fill the slots with xenos instead.

>> No.73725777

>*BANGBANGBANGBANG*
>I'M FULLY HEALED, MY SONS! COME ON, THIS ISN'T FUNNY ANYMORE, LET ME OUT ALREADY!

>> No.73725778

>>73725681
Not in crusades lol. The buff still increases the saving throw by 1.

>> No.73725779

>>73724549
Friend posted our game a day ago or there about so I guess this is reposting.

I'm sad this game's army has atleat two squated and two one unit that's unplayably expensive now. I just like my wraith units GW!

>> No.73725780

>>73725116
They were. I played tyranids back then and there was nothing that could survive. Good times.
There was a rule about being forced to shoot the closest thing, well turn 1 that was a wave of gargoyles.
Behind them hormagaunts, behind them more gaunts and stealers.
Once the stealers got stuck in it was game over, stealers could rape kharn's ass and he was considered the best melee fighter.

>> No.73725781

>>73725651
>>73725564
>Can't paint, doesn't get 10VP
>Can't do 10 pushups, doesn't get 10VP
Would love to see the reddit shitfest something like that would create, even if it would never happen

>> No.73725782

I think Warhammer is slowly driving me towards schizophrenia. I haven’t been employed in over a year and I can’t find a gf or even friends. I never hear back from anywhere I apply to and I have a college degree. I’ve devolved to spring most of my time obsessing over Warhammer. I spend hours rolling dice at my desk playing out scenarios in my head and making lists I wish I could run. I live only for the chance to play Warhammer on the weekends and even then I about break down crying when I lose because my entire week has led up to this one chance at a dopamine hit. I want a decent list to play with but I can’t buy new models because I don’t have a job. I’m stuck in a loop each week with the same army and the same results. I hate what I am turning into but I can’t stop. Warhammer is the only slightly positive thing I have currently.

>> No.73725786

>>73725525
Everybody is losing their shit over 9e points changes, but you push on with the long and storied history of how Tyranids lost all of their flavor and boiled down into "ha ha shoot the bug."

God bless, Screaming Nid Anon. In an era of egregiously blatant disregard for the soul of the game, you remind us of a better time. A time where models could be good, factions could be balanced, and players could feel like their armies had tactics.

What we have now are not Lictors. They are Tyranid Primes with deep strike. The real Lictor was inside us all along, Infiltrated into a hidden position and just waiting to flesh-hook our hearts. We will never see its like again.

A toast, to absent friends.

>> No.73725787

>>73725512
I could pay for a $200 rulebook 10 times over on my monthly disposable income but still don't because I'm not a consoomer idiot. It's a fucking reference book, paying $200 for some lore and rules that's going to get beat up if you use it for its intended purpose of playing games is something that fiscally irresponsible wagies do.

>> No.73725788

How much more Models will I need after an Indomitus set?

>> No.73725790

Am I reading any of this right? GW made bad armies worse and good armies better? Why should I stay attached to this hobby?

>> No.73725791

>>73725675
Also start of 8th ed

>>73725681
Oh is the day one FAQ up already?

>> No.73725796

>>73725505
>you are not correct to think that
I know it, and was present for it.

"40k forums" (though in 95-96 it'd mostly just be IRC) weren't particularly well populated or used until the tail end of the 90's. And even then most of what was discussed was a regurgitation of things long established in the tournament circuit. Largely the american one, if I'm being totally honest, since the same people could travel from event to event and shape the metagame.

>Mutatis mutandis
I'm making an aside while agreeing with his overarching point. Tyranids interacted with the rules in a strange way, but weren't broken.

>>73725549
I mean just look at them anon. Those quads are fucking enormous.

>> No.73725797

>>73725440
>slaanesh corrupted sisters
>like noise marines but dressed like rave sluts and blast edm from their doom sirens
yes please

>> No.73725798

>>73725724
Oh you know. New codexs, better value boxes, a few more stories based around them and oh, yeah, RELEASE NEW FUCKING MODELS FOR THEM!

>> No.73725801

>>73725705

>> No.73725803

>>73725543
Then pop your cripple card to get a pass.

>> No.73725805

>>73725543
no pre-measuring simply doesn't work for its intended purpose, even a kid is able to gauge distances when the battlefield has a regular shape
guessing can be fun but it tires fast and it's no different than having a random component to distances to achieve the intended purpose of avoiding gamey manoeuvres that take advantage of a few inches and have situations where things simply don't go your way

>> No.73725807

>>73725753
eh, it's a colour.

>> No.73725808

>>73725713
If R+H are dead i'm gonna be devestated, i've spent my lockdown putting together a Vanguard of Beastmen and misc. Renegade rabble to go with my CSM.

Likewise i'm really anxious over what exact IG units got squatted, i've got a Vulture, a Trojan, a Stygies Destroyer and two squads of Rough Riders. 9th might be about to cull half my entire collection. Oh, and literally everyone I know plays exclusively SM who are getting even more stuff so fuck me I guess.

>> No.73725809

>>73724939
Ngl the hinding rule seems pretty fun why don't we get rules like that anymore

>> No.73725811

>>73725778
oh wait, nvm I didn't read the notes, only the bottom half.

>> No.73725812

>>73725740
Shostakovitch’s symphony no. 5 in D minor.

Oppo 47 here, the most dramatic part IMO.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uE2llsJo39c

>> No.73725817

>>73724543
Eldar utterly fucked unless you like spamming Tourny lists of hover tanks.

>> No.73725826

>>73725604
Nids are literally responsible for saving the Tau from getting wiped out. Thanks screaming nid bro

>> No.73725828

>>73725777
he's being locked up because he is a traitor

>> No.73725831

>>73725776
No, not until the entire vanilla marine range has been given repla- primaris equivalents, that includes all the forge world stuff.

>> No.73725833

>>73725724
Some fucking releases and give them rules written by people who actually like them. Several of the PAs and some of the original codices accomplished this, it just needs to be spread.

>> No.73725839

>>73725790
Custodes went from trash fire to pretty good thanks to the point change

>> No.73725840

>>73725724
Make some actually cool xenos, current ones are simply not interesting.

>> No.73725842

>>73725525
SO NOW WE'VE GONE OVER A FEW SPECIAL RULES AND UNDERSTAND WHY THE LICTOR'S DEPLOYMENT WAS FRIGHTENING AND APPROPRIATE BEFORE, WHERE AS NOW IT HAS A DEEP STRIKE RULE THAT'S EVEN SHITTIER THAN SPACE MARINE INFILTRATION.

LET'S GET BACK TO THE STATLINE WHICH WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY COVERED YET.

GW ACTUALLY GOT THE MOVEMENT SPEED RIGHT, UNLIKE CARNIFEXES AND WARRIORS, WOW CONGRATS! SHAME THAT MY MODEL DEEP STRIKES INSTEAD OF STARTING ON THE BOARD AND THEN GETTING A NORMAL MOVE BEFORE IT'S CHARGE LIKE THE FUCKING LESS SNEAKY SPACE MARINES GET TO DO!

WS 2+, ANOTHER ONE THEY ACTUALLY GOT RIGHT. THANK FUCK.

BS 4+, INCORRECT. WE ALREADY COVERED THAT WITH FLESH HOOKS. AND UNLIKE MODELS LIKE THE CARNIFEX WITH ENHANCED SENSES BIOMORPH OR WARRIORS WHICH CAN GET THE PRIME BUFF, WHICH ARE BOTH ACCEPTABLE, THERE'S NO WAY TO FIX THIS ONE, AND LOREWISE IT SHOULD HAVE THE INCREASED BS BAKED ON ALREADY BECAUSE IT'S A LICTOR - HAVING ENHANCED SENSES IS LITERALLY A SPECIAL RULE IT USED TO HAVE.

STRENGTH 6, CORRECT, WELL DONE, SHAME ABOUT THE NEW WOUND CHART FUCKING THAT OVER, BUT WHILE BROODLORDS AND GENESTEALER PATRIARCHS WHICH ARE ALSO BIG STRENGTH 6 TYRANID BEASTS WITH RENDING CLAWS GET TO RE-ROLL WOUNDS, THE LICTOR DOESN'T. IT'S STUCK WITH THE BABY RENDING CLAWS, DESPITE BEING AS BIG IN LORE AS A PATRIARCH. IN 2E IT WAS WOUNDING SPACE MARINES ON A 2+. ALSO QUICK ASIDE, IN 2E, MELEE WEAPONS AP WAS BASED ON YOUR STRENGTH (UNLESS IT WAS BETTER). EVERY POINT ABOVE 3 GAVE -1 AP, SO STRENGTH 4 WAS AP -1, STRENGTH 5 AP -2, STRENGTH 6 AP -3 ETC. LICTORS SHOULD HAVE -3 AP WEAPONS WITH A BETTER ABILITY TO WOUND... WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT MONSTROUS RENDING CLAWS ARE. BUT FUCK MELEE PLAYERS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GIMPED ABILITY TO MAKE IT INTO COMBAT AND ALSO SUCK WHEN YOU GET THERE!

TOUGHNESS 4, BIG FUCKING WRONG. JESUS CHRIST. WE ALREADY COVERED THIS WITH THE WARRIORS THOUGH, SO I WON'T KEEP REITERATING THAT POINT. SUFFICE TO SAY IT'S FUCKING AWFUL. CONTINUED...

>> No.73725846

>>73725808
R+H are dead.

>> No.73725850

>>73725782
sounds like getting a poor degree is what is leading you to schizophrenia

>> No.73725852

>>73725768
Is that necessary? By RAW, Monsters already apply Look Out Sir to other (character) Monsters.

>> No.73725857

>>73725733
>t. faggot that fondly remembers when he and his carpenter buddies shat on everyone in WHFB with perfect cannon and mortar drops every game
A group of those faggots quite literally killed WHFB in my area back in 6th and it never recovered. Literally no one wanted to play against them. "hurhur since we measure small distances for a living we can perfectly drop shells in the middle of formations or bounce it starting right at the foot of models"

>> No.73725863

>>73725776
Seriously. They came from nowhere and sold out all over, despite a codex chock-ablock with limitations, restrictions, and self-nerfs that no other faction in the game has to suffer.

Marines are the best selling, but that doesn't mean Xenos couldn't out sell them if they were given even a fraction of the attention.

>> No.73725869

>>73725782
Go watch some Jordan Peterson lectures and turn your life around

>> No.73725871

>>73725426
They look better, and the -1 to hit is pretty hard hitting on a unit that's only a 3+.
Don't forget the reroll failed hits ability they have comes before modifiers, so a roll of 3 on a Guard with Fist is still a fail and can't be rerolled.

>> No.73725877

>>73725797
Well yeah. I’m sure the new sisters can easily become noise marines.

>> No.73725883

>>73725812
Any good energetic or ominous classical music really, Rite of Spring is a wonderful peace, night on bald mountain, you get the idea.

>> No.73725885

So do the FAQs still count or are we in the wildwest of fucked rules and broken units until GW can be fucked to reissue them?

I've heard conflicting things.

>> No.73725888

>>73725852
He can't be sniped anymore I guess

>> No.73725896

>>73725724
Make a harlequin character that harlequin players can actually use.
Maximumbutthurt.jpg

>> No.73725897

>>73724939
reading about 2nd ed it sounded fun as fuck where did it go wrong? vehicle rules? bloated characters? what?

>> No.73725900

>>73725770
I love how people that make the 'haha poors' argument are always petty bourgies trying to feel good about themselves or at most lower upper class faggots trying to dab.
Anyone with actual money is also smart enough to get some value out of their purchases.

>> No.73725902

>>73725724
Give them competitive rules. Unless someone loves the look or lore of a faction they aren't going to buy an army for a game that they know has shit rules.

>> No.73725903

>>73725885
They just got updated

>> No.73725904

>>73725782
You anywhere near Atlanta, anon? I'll play some proxy games with you

>> No.73725906

>>73725885
>open faq
>read second line
>Indomitus Version 1.0

Jezz anon, I dont know, you tell me

>> No.73725907

>>73725777
>The Lion woke up over 9000 years ago
>Been locked up, nothing to do.
>Spent the past 9000 years fapping endlessly
>The Lion is COOOOOOOOOOOOOMING!

>> No.73725909

>>73725897
People started trying to take it seriously, now the staff has drank the kool-aid and writes unironic pro imperial propaganda

>> No.73725912

>>73725842
I understand your anger fellow Nidbro...

>> No.73725919

>>73725801

>> No.73725931

>>73725782
Start working out, unironically. Go for a walk each morning, or a bike ride if walking hurts your back thanks to bad posture. Get some fresh air, spend more time out doors. If you're fat you can recover.

>> No.73725935

>>73725850
I almost had a job with my degree but then the CHINESE virus hit and everyone stopped hiring. I was in talks with the management.

>> No.73725939

>>73725368
This is my biggest gripe moving from 7th to 8th. The rules actually helped inform the lore.

7th was bloated to be sure, but all that bloat helped to sell the setting. Rules were fluffier back then. Plasma Guns are really dangerous to use in the lore. How do the rules reflect that? A 1 blows you up. That's it. A 1 in 6 chance to explode. Not like 8th where you can opt to overcharge it and take the risk that way. Plasmagun were laughably unsafe, to the point that no real military would ever adopt them. And it was reflected in the rules. You read about Plasma being dangerous, and then you lose a squad to a bad role for a Plasma Cannon.

The old system (3rd-7th) was full of that. There was bloat, and there was cheese. It wasn't perfect. But playing the game steeped you in the lore. It didn't feel like a competitive video game like it does now. You didn't have fluffy rules and abilities locked behind an arbitrary abstract resource.

>> No.73725942

>>73725909
I'm talking about rules here

>> No.73725944

>>73725781
TOs could add that to every tournament pack. it would be funny AF.

>> No.73725955

>>73725670
C. D looks like space wolves at first glance, A and B just don't really work imo.

>> No.73725958

>>73724543
FW priced to Crusade play only, except their non Acastus Knights. Which were fine, but knights sell soooooo...

>> No.73725969

>>73725808
Use your beastmen as crusaders perhaps, and run your R&H as guard and CSM as loyalists when you feel like running them together.
It sucks but it's usable.

>> No.73725970

>>73725670
C for me

>> No.73725973

>>73725670
all shit, sorry

>> No.73725977

>>73725935
>>73725904
>CHINESE virus
Ah, nevermind. Listen to your leaders and get lots of bleach and internal UV. I hear it's good for you.

>> No.73725982

>>73725846
Well fuck me I guess. Nice that GW isn't hiding the fact that they're titanic fucking cocksuckers anymore.

>> No.73725983

>>73725740
Metallica, the Lord of the Rings OST, Megadeth, the Terminator 2 OST, Slayer, Jaws OST, Anthrax, Flight of the Valkyries, Led Zeppelin, Also Sprach Zarathustra, Motorhead and Duel of Fates. All that on shuffle. This is the classic LGS experience.

>> No.73725989

>>73725797
no. stop. you don't just chaos everything. This is a fucking 10 year old meme. Chaos tau, chaos tyranids, chaos orcs, chaos chaos space marines.
No fuck off. sticking spikes on things doesn't make it chaos.

>> No.73725990

>>73724543
I hope you don't like Forge World models, anon

>> No.73725991

>>73725857
This and playing my Bretons with a 12 year old codex is why I didn’t mind the Mass Squatting
>Hurrr your knights will never be supported again
They weren’t supported beforehand.

>> No.73726003

>>73725517
It's Gladius. Like Civilization, but for 40k

>> No.73726009

>>73725977
Ga anon here. You’re statistically more likely to die from BLM than wuflu in Atlanta.

>> No.73726010

>>73725939
>7th sold the setting
>wraithtide

>> No.73726014

>>73725492
can someone hive me a quick rundown on that pic

>> No.73726019

>>73725740
Love is in the air, Tom Jones version.

>> No.73726020

is there a battlescribe update with the new points yet?

>> No.73726025 [DELETED] 

>>73725969
I guess I could, but it sucks to lose the unique stuff like the Marauder squad and the plague ogryns. My main army is IG, it feels disingenuous to just play the same army twice but with different models.

>> No.73726027

>>73726009
Good thing I'm OTP Chad then

>> No.73726028

>>73725977
>the wuflu didn't originate in china
what do you want to rename ebola to?

>> No.73726031

>>73726014
>It is a good pain
>Do you hear the voices too?
>Blood, blood, blood!

>> No.73726034

>>73725977
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>> No.73726037

>>73725989
>spikes
>not futa cocks

>> No.73726040

>>73725724
The key is a good core.
Orks or Eldar would sell much better if their basic stuff wasn't ancient.
THere also needs to be the sense of more to come, not in 10 or more years but in the more immediate future.

>> No.73726047

>>73726009
I'm assuming you're just using BLM as a blanket for all black people, right?

>> No.73726050

>>73726014
Writer for the BoP movie had a meltdown after her stronk intersectional waman movie flopped.

>> No.73726051

>>73726028
But Anon, it’s what we’ve ALWAYS done! Why should we change anything in society?

>> No.73726055

>>73725746
One of the best ways to troll faggots like that was deploy an inch or two back from max deployment. Not exactly an inch or two, but roughly. And don't inform the opponent who will assume you've deployed as far forward as possible and calculate from there.
First charge declaration and/artillery shots are usually funny as they come up short.

>> No.73726056

>>73726051
I'm not sure what you're arguing at this point

>> No.73726058

>>73726047
If that were the case, he would have said joggers.

>> No.73726060

>>73725969
I guess I could, but it sucks to lose the unique stuff like the Marauder squad and the plague ogryns. My main army is IG, it feels disingenuous to just play the same army twice but with different models.

>> No.73726062

>>73726050
I actually thought it was a decent movie.

>> No.73726063

>>73726025
Yeah, it sucks super ass. I know it very well.

>> No.73726064

>*Pages 56, 57, 58, 59 and 60 – Troupe Master, Shadowseer, Troupe, Death Jester and Solitaire, Abilities, Flip BeltChange to read:‘Each time this unit makes a Normal Move, Advances, Falls Back or makes a charge move, until that move is finished, models in this unit can move horizontally through models and terrain features (they cannot finish a move on top of another model, or its base).’

explain the difference between this and "fly" keyword to a brainlet

>> No.73726066

>>73725740
Keep telling you guys, Kiss "Music from the Elder" is literally 40k. Concept album that tells the story of a young boy who is recruited into a monastic order of knights and trained to fight cosmic evil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs4dbKS7hxg&list=PL1634E2CDDE4DBB54

>> No.73726073

They said Deathwatch will get access to the rest of the SM roster in the new edition - Are they just going to change them to a Chapter equivalent rather than their own faction?
Wouldn't really mind, if it helps them to remember updating the faction with the rest of them.

>> No.73726075

>>73724930
I still don't know what happened. Seems like a bunch of snap shots, which is cool but hardly galaxy shatttering.

>> No.73726080

>>73725768
OH JESUS CHRIST. HERE WE GO.

>>73725688
NO, YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT. TAKE FLAMERS, USE GRENADES, USE OVERWATCH. YOU DON'T GET TO FREELY SHOOT THE NEARLY INVISIBLE ALIEN CHAMELEON HIDING IN DENSE TERRAIN WHICH DOESN'T EVEN SHOW UP ON INFRARED. THERE IS PLENTY OF COUNTERPLAY AVAILABLE IN THE GAME, SORRY YOUR EPIC GUNLINE CAN'T 360 NOSCOPE THE STEALTHIEST ORGANISM IN THE GALAXY BEFORE IT EVEN MOVES OUT OF COVER YOU BRAINDEAD CUNT.

>>73725589
I HAVE A LOT I COULD SAY ABOUT TAU BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THIS LESSON IS OVER.

>>73725604
LAY OFF THE POLYMORPHINE.

>>73725786
>A toast, to absent friends.
STOP MAKING ME FEEL THINGS OTHER THAN ANGER.

>>73725842
WHERE WERE WE? OH YEAH. WOUNDS. WOUNDS 4, WHEN IN 2E IT WAS WOUNDS 3. SPACE MARINE CAPTAINS WENT FROM 3 WOUNDS IN 2E TO 5 WOUNDS IN CURRENT EDITION. SQUISHY HUMAN SIZED THINGS LIKE COMPANY COMMANDERS AND COMMISSARS WENT FROM 3 TO 4. WHICH IS A HUMONGOUS BIOENGINEERED ALIEN MONSTER CLOSER TO? HINT IT'S NOT THE BASELINE HUMAN.

>> No.73726083

>>73726028
Ebola was named as such initially, it wasn't a political retcon.

If we're coming up with new designations for SARS-CoV-2, how about the Great Failure of the American Free-market Health-care-for-profit and Political-opinions-substituting-for-facts System? not as chippy as WuFlu, I'll admit

>> No.73726090

>>73726051
The only reason calling it the chinese virus or wuflu or whatever comes off as intentionally racist is because people already hate the chinese.
Ebola doesn't come off as racist because people in general don't hate africans they only hate western blacks

>> No.73726091

whats the best HQ choice for a small CSM army? I am trying to work out a 500 point patrol for my first round of painting

>> No.73726093

>>73726062
It wasn't a good movie by any means, but it was fun. Not every movie needs to be an oscar winner, some movies are fine enough being a time waster.

>> No.73726110

>>73726091
A lord is as basic and cheap as it gets, the reroll aura is decent. Sorcerers are fantastic though as are daemon princes

>> No.73726112

>>73726064
It doesn't give them access to secondary rules that depend on the FLY keyword

>> No.73726115

>>73726050
BoP ? not all of us write in acronyms.
Burning of Prospero?
bernie old pardons?
betrayal on phart ?
based on philip?

>> No.73726121

>>73726060
If that's your model I like it. I'm sorry for your loss

>> No.73726126

>>73726073
Probably.

>> No.73726128

>>73726066
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ta20wKllM&list=PL1634E2CDDE4DBB54&index=3

>> No.73726133

>>73726047
No, why? It’s not black people setting up barricades and killing kids.

>> No.73726139

>>73726056
Given that your argument for calling coronavirus “the CHINESE virus!!!” (sic.) is “but we’ve called some pandemics after their place of origin before... why stop now?”, I’d stop.

Stones in glass houses and all that...

Anyway, back to the real topic at hand, WHY are we not seeing plastic multipose Vostroyans now?

>> No.73726140

>>73726112
But.
Can I backflip over a building like someone with a jump pack or do I have to measure the distance up and down like a cripple?

>> No.73726141

>>73726083
Nah, it didn't originate here. What you need to do, however, is call the upcoming worldwide recession "america did it again, those retarded neoliberal corporatists"

>> No.73726142

>>73726080
sporocysts got worse now because they can't shoot into melee anymore if they have venom cannons

>> No.73726143

>>73725463
01000111 01001111 00100000 01000010 01000001 01000011 01001011 00100000 01010100 01001111 00100000 01010011 01001100 01000101 01000101 01010000

>> No.73726145

I don't even know anyone who caught Flu Manchu.
I think it's some sort of psyop.

>> No.73726162

>>73726093
Exactly. It wasn’t high art, but it was enjoyable.

>>73726115
Birds of Prey. Fun movie, slammed by some for having “woman” as the main character.

>> No.73726168

>>73726090
no, trust me, people hate africans too
they act less like angry dumb people and more like hungry dumb animals, but they are hated nonetheless for being dumb and destructive

>> No.73726170

>>73726141
I mean no other country except for maybe Brazil fucked up their handling of the virus as bad as America did.

>> No.73726172

>>73726091
Chaos or disco lord

>> No.73726177

>>73726145
Did WW2 happen?

>> No.73726185

>>73726133
>the retards that don't know the difference between anarchy and anomie done killed some kids
It's a fun example of complete american retardation and bastardization of ideology and all, but not really the whole "kill more than covid" thing.

>> No.73726186

>>73725250

>> No.73726189

>>73726145
Ok Karen.

>> No.73726191

>>73726145
I already caught it and recovered AMA

>> No.73726192

>>73726080
I really like what you're talking about. I joined in 7th and hearing about this stuff makes me want to just play 2nd ed. I think it would be cool if the units that could do this could fight each other while still being unable to be targeted. I imagine or kommandos and lictors facing off in the shadows while the bigger battle rages around them

>> No.73726196

>>73725903
>>73725906
>>73725885

>Nothing about autarch weapons

Is it time to be sad or have I missed something?

>> No.73726198

>>73725897
SCALE. IT JUST COULDN'T HANDLE ARMIES PAST A CERTAIN SIZE, AND GW WANTED TO KEEP SELLING EVERYONE MORE AND MORE MODELS. IT WAS A SKIRMISH+ LEVEL GAME. THE FACT THAT ALL THE POINTS COSTS WERE BASICALLY TWICE WHAT THEY ARE NOW SHOULD CLUE YOU IN. BUT HONESTLY, PACKING MORE MODELS ONTO A BOARD DOESN'T MAKE A BETTER GAME. IT SHOULD HAVE STAYED AS IT WAS. 3E WAS A MISTAKE. I'LL GET TO THAT WHEN WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS CODEX IN ABOUT A WEEK OR SO.

PROBABLY WHERE THE RULES REALLY BROKE DOWN AT A LARGER SCALE WAS IN MELEE, AND THAT LEADS PERFECTLY INTO MY NEXT POINT.

SO IN 2E THE CHAMELEONIC SKIN OF THE LICTOR ONLY GAVE A -1 TO SHOOTING, AND ONLY IF THE LICTOR STOOD STILL. THIS BASICALLY MEANT IT WAS ONLY IF YOU WERE SITTING ON YOUR ASS FLESH HOOKING THINGS, WHICH DIDN'T OCCUR VERY OFTEN. IN 8E YOU ALWAYS GET THAT -1 TO HIT BENEFIT, EVEN IN MELEE, WHICH IS SORT OF NICE TO MAKE UP FOR THE FACT THAT LICTORS LOST THEIR 5++ INVULNERABLE DODGE SAVE, AND BIOMORPH ACCESS TO A STACKABLE 4++ VOLTAGE FIELD OR 2+ SAVE OR REGENERATION OR +1 TOUGHNESS OR SOMETHING (TYPICALLY YOU TOOK THE VOLTAGE FIELD MAINLY TO SHORT OUT ENEMY FORCEFIELDS).

HOWEVER. COMBAT WORKED COMPLETELY DIFERENTLY IN 2E. INSTEAD OF WORKING LIKE SHOOTING, WHERE YOU ROLL YOUR HITS AND RESOLVE THEM, THEN YOUR OPPONENT ROLLS THEIRS IF THEY LIVE, BACK AND FORTH IN A STUPID SLAPFEST WHERE THE FIRST TO ATTACK GETS A HUGE ADVANTAGE, COMBAT WAS MORE CINEMATIC. IT WAS LIKE A DUEL. YOU ROLLED OFF AT THE SAME TIME, COMPARED DICE, AND ONE PLAYER WON. AND AS LONG AS YOU WERE WINNING, YOU COULD NOT BE HIT. SO HIGH WEAPON SKILL WASN'T ONLY AN OFFENSIVE STAT - IT ALSO PROTECTED YOU IN MELEE! HERE'S HOW IT WORKED...

>> No.73726200

Can I play all-terminator armies yet?

>> No.73726206

>>73725622
I know some people are going to be mad but 14 ppm was better than what i expected it to be

>> No.73726211

>>73726200

>> No.73726213

>>73726170
Yes, but they're typically named after origins or at least where the origin is thought to have been rather than what got hit the worst. Hence the 'we're all fucked economically thanks to america' comment.

>> No.73726216

>>73726162
harley quinn was the most popular part of suicide squad, far more so than the joker or will smith. bop was not hated because it featured her

>> No.73726222

>GW puts up the FAQ's on their community site
>Not even brave enough to post the link on the front page

>> No.73726226

>>73726139
because imperial guard regiments are racist by being cultural caricatures or racists by being nazi glorification

but stupid reasons aside, it's because the kits still hold up according to GW, a range update is an unneeded investment and because cadians have reached the memetic popularity by being the almost extinct underdogs, you can bet your ass any new kit for the guard will still be done with cadians in mind as a tribute

>> No.73726230

>>73726142
Venom Cannons are assault weapons.

>> No.73726236

>>73726177
Yes.

>>73726191
How come I've never seen anybody with it in person?

>> No.73726241

>>73726200
>vanguard detachments exist
You can sort of for factions with more than 1 terminator choice like deathguard.

>> No.73726247

>>73726191
>AMA
did you feel anything different from a normal flu?
did anyone you know?

>> No.73726248

>>73726230
venom cannons are BLAST weapons
so are barbed stranglers

>> No.73726251

>>73726226
Damn GW’s stupid.

Just checking, those first reasons you gave... nobody seriously thinks that, do they?

>> No.73726253

>>73726236
People who have it are in quarantine or in a hospital, anon.

>> No.73726256

>conscripts still cost as much as normal guard
Fuck off with this please

>> No.73726266

>>73726198
I hope somebody has been saving all of these posts for a google doc or something. It would be a shame for every one of these heartfelt rants to be lost to the immaterium a few short threads later.

>> No.73726271

>>73725839
I never lost in 8th with custodes. How bad could you possibly be to think they're trash fire?

>> No.73726275

>>73726236
How do you know? You didn’t experience it first hand. Was WW2 a psyop?

>> No.73726279

>>73726256
>Guardsman are cheaper than every other horde unit in the game
Shut the fuck up.

>> No.73726284

>>73726236
You should go volunteer at your local hospital that's got cases.
>>73726251
Of course people think that, people are fucking retarded and social media lets them congregate. Like the corona psyop anon

>> No.73726285

>>73726256
The fuck are you complaining about? A random smuck that picked up a gun and scream to the dark gods is more expensive then both.

>> No.73726289

>>73726091
Always a DP. If not that, then go regular lord.

>> No.73726291

>>73726266
I think SNA was saving these to a pastebin or smth, all ready to be distributed in future.

>> No.73726294

>>73726248
So they are. My bad.

>> No.73726295

>>73726266
we can trace back his screaming using the name and the archives

>> No.73726298

>>73726256
>cultists are 6ppm
>guardscum still complain

>> No.73726301

>>73726236
Go outside for a while you’ll get it

>>73726247
It was worse than normal flu to me, but some people who I know got it said it wasn’t very severe and only found out by getting tested they have/had it prior

>> No.73726313

>>73726284
Damn that’s retarded

>> No.73726316

How about a story arc where Nurgle and his associates get flipped?

Becoming the God of Life that cures sickness and spreads new life. Morty and the Death Guard become the Life Wardens. Invading hellish Imperium worlds to turn them into paradise. Even the daemons turn into druidic fae.

>> No.73726318

>>73724617

you think this person has dyed hair or a beard?

>> No.73726320

>>73726241
Aren’t GK termies still Troops?

>> No.73726325

>>73726256
grots cost 5 ppm, you can't say shit

>> No.73726329

>>73726253
They have to leave at some point though, or else it wouldn't supposedly be spreading.

>>73726275
>How do you know?
My grandpas told me.
One got pictures of driving through hiroshima and all the Japanese bowing to him.

>>73726284
>You should go volunteer at your local hospital that's got cases.
I don't like hosptals.

>>73726301
>Go outside for a while you’ll get it
I'm outside now.

>> No.73726331

Does anyone have some trippy 40k pics? I need a backdrop for a photo, and I need the most weird, obscure shit y’all can conjure up.

>> No.73726333

>>73726162
Oh that ! Birds of Prey!
I took my 12yr old daughter and her also 12 yr old friend to see it at the pictures.
They absolutely loved it.

I was cringing through most of the fight scenes because it was so suspension of belief shattering, but I was like, eh, who cares, the target audience loved it.

It was a fun colorful romp, ever so edgy, but all in all just a cartoon for kids.
This is fine, as noted above, not all movies have to be award winning masterpieces of cinematographic arts.

>> No.73726334

>>73726285
>this is also bad
>so you shouldn't complain about that
fuck off, both are travesties. Hell, most of the new points are a fucking joke.

>> No.73726336

>>73726279
So? It's still dumb for worse guardsmen to cost the same.
>>73726285
Obviously CSM and Cultists need to be fixed too.

>> No.73726347

>>73726248
A blast master is an assault and heavy weapon and has blast, you’re dumb.

>> No.73726352

>>73726336
Shut the fuck up.

>> No.73726355

>>73726275
>Was WW2 a psyop?
Yes. We were all told a country smaller than Texas would take over the whole world if we didn’t let them have their old borders.

>> No.73726356

>>73726347
You can't shoot blast weapons into melee you mongoloid

>> No.73726357

>>73726316
A guy I've played against did something like that for his custom DG army. Basically his DG dudes found Isha and saw the light, repented, and proceeded to attempt to free her. She replaced their mutated/chaos-warped bits with treant bits so that they didn't die. Army looked great even if the fluff was so-so

>> No.73726360

>>73726329
Go to your Walmart and ask to be a greeter. If you’re in the US, and not literal nowhere state, just leave a mask off. It’s really like 10% of people likely got it, which should mean 1/100 people will give it to you. I’m pretty sure I got mine at a Trader Joe’s that later closed when they found out a few of their workers had it

>> No.73726363

>>73726298
>>73726325
>nooooooo my xenos or chaos army needs point fixes too so you can't complain about conscripts
This is why no one likes chaos or xenos fags

>> No.73726364

>>73724529
So, the ability to ignore penalty to heavy weapons when moving was removed entirely from Admech and other sources, but nothing was put in to replace it. And given the points increases, the removal didn't help prevent points from being hiked.
What's wrong with GW?

>> No.73726368 [SPOILER] 

>>73726316
sounds like a good idea, reminds me of my dudes in aos, they are a chivalric order of monster hunters hailing from the realm of light (praise the sun and all that jazz), fighting the elves that ruin everything
pic related is my favourite art of them
truly, warhammer needs more hopepunk

>> No.73726371

>>73726329
And presumably people have told you about coronavirus? And showed you pictures of the full wards, the people being carried out feet-first?

What makes one more valid than the other?

>> No.73726376

>>73726352
>csm player so assmad he doesn't realize everyone but SM got fucked over by the points and won't let them point it out
you disgust me

>> No.73726379

>>73726198
Sod right off old man.
I was there, played rogue trader and what I call 2nd edition (the codex astartes and compendium with the first army lists were where 2nd edition started)

The game was playable with bigger armies, geedubs just wanted to water it down for the kids, because they were the ones spending grandma's moniez on chaos space warriors and wood elfs.

>> No.73726380

that's insanely good

>> No.73726383

>>73726364
>So, the ability to ignore penalty to heavy weapons when moving was removed entirely from Admech and other sources, but nothing was put in to replace it.


Holy shit, go read the 9th edition core rules you fucking retard

>> No.73726386

>>73726200
Only if you play Custodes.
Though not fully Terminator, since you don't want terminators in the board at the start of the game, and half your army needs to be in the battlefield at the start.
A Patrol with:
Captain-General Trajann Valoris: Misericordia, Watcher's Axe
Shield Captain in Allarus Terminator Armor: Ballistus Grenade Launcher, Guardian Spear
Custodian Guard Squad
Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield

Custodian Guard Squad
Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield

Allarus Custodians
Allarus Custodian: Ballistus Grenade Gauncher, Castellan Axe
Allarus Custodian: Ballistus Grenade Launcher, Castellan Axe
Allarus Custodian: Ballistus Grenade Launcher, Castellan Axe
Allarus Custodian: Ballistus Grenade Launcher, Castellan Axe
Allarus Custodian: Ballistus Grenade Launcher, Castellan Axe
Allarus Custodian: Ballistus Grenade
Launcher, Castellan Axe
. Allarus Custodian: Ballistus Grenade Launcher, Castellan Axe
. Allarus Custodian: Ballistus Grenade Launcher, Castellan Axe

Aquilon Custodians
. Aquilon Custodian: Lastrum Storm Bolter, Solarite power Gauntlet
. Aquilon Custodian: Lastrum Storm Bolter, Solarite power Gauntlet
. Aquilon Custodian: Lastrum Storm Bolter, Solarite power Gauntlet
. Aquilon Custodian: Lastrum Storm Bolter, Solarite power Gauntlet
. Aquilon Custodian: Lastrum Storm Bolter, Solarite power Gauntlet

Telemon Heavy Dreadnought: Illiastus Accelerator Culverin, Spiculus Bolt Launcher
. Telemon Caestus: Twin Plasma Projector

Will probably be around 2k points and be a BLAST (not gun-type) to play.
If you were to add an aditional elite spot (like Auxiliarry detach) you can put the vexilla in, by removing either a unit of Guards or a couple of Terminators, while the Telemon bodyguards it.
>>73726271
Did you ever played against Blood Angels?

>> No.73726398

>>73726325
Holy shit really?
I play IG, but i'll agree thats absolutely fucked up.

>>73724529
Anyone know how much IG veterans cost?

>> No.73726399

>>73726357
that's so incredibly faggoty that I don't believe you
>>73726364
all vehicles can move and fire heavy weapons without penalty now, dummy

>> No.73726402

>>73725900
Only limited rulebook I thought of buying was the 6e IG one with the burlap covers to go with my Uplifting Primer and Munitorum Manual. But I'm not paying GW money to have their bad decisions in big letters on the cover. If it had just been the Imperialis, I would have not hesitated.

>> No.73726407

>>73726360
>Go to your Walmart and ask to be a greeter. If you’re in the US
I don't like in America, we don't have walmart here I don't think.

>>73726371
>What makes one more valid than the other?
I trust my grandpas but not the media.

>> No.73726409

>>73726398
>veterans

Points-wise, or cost-wise?

>> No.73726410

So can you target the nearest dude or not?

>> No.73726412

>>73726363
>WAAAAH WHY ISN'T MY STUFF BETTER
>it's still cheaper than X factions equivalent
>SHUT UP NO ONE LIKES YOU WAAAAH WAAAAH
guardfags are cancer

>> No.73726414

>Finish painting my army just before points came out
>Now to play at the point threshold my friends and I agreed upon I just have to shelve like the third of the dudes I painted

>> No.73726417

>>73726316
>spreads new life
aekold helbrass: 40k?

Rather than stapling that to established characters, it would be better to use that as the seed for a new warband. Make your own shit.

>> No.73726422

>>73726409
Points-wise, i've got three squads

>> No.73726426

>>73726140
help pls

>> No.73726427

>>73726256
a friend of mine is whining like a bitch because grots are 5pts !

But poxwalkers are 7pts, and yet this is fine?

>> No.73726433

>>73726383
>>73726399
I'm well aware 9th removed penalty to heavy weapons on vehicles, retards. I'm saying that vehicles that already had abilities to ignore it were straight up downgraded this edition.
They didn't get a new ability to replace it, nor did their points values increase less to account for it.

>> No.73726437

>>73726422
Oh, right. Idk then.

Post pics, though. Guard are always good.

>> No.73726440

>>73726407
Pick whatever store gathers the largest amount of low-income retards, then. Probably wherever your mom usually gets your tendies.

>> No.73726443

>>73726080
>>73726198
FORGOT TO LINK MY PAST TWO POSTS.

SO, CLOSE COMBAT IN 2E. YOU RESOLVED IT 1 MODEL VS 1 MODEL AT A TIME. THIS IS WHY IT COULDN'T SUPPORT LARGER GAME SIZES - IMAGINE ROLLING 30 INDIVIDUAL COMBATS FOR A MOB OF BOYZ TO RESOLVE ONE CLOSE COMBAT.

BUT WHEN GAMES HAD LIKE 30 SPACE MARINES ON ONE SIDE AND MAYBE 50 BUGS ON THE OTHER IN TOTAL AND A LOT OF FIGHTS WERE LIKE 6 GUYS VS 5 IT WASN'T THAT BAD, AND AS YOU GOT USED TO THE RULES YOU GOT FASTER AND FASTER AT IT AND IT BECAME EASIER. AND IT WAS FUN. IT ALSO DIDN'T TAKE QUITE AS LONG AS YOU MIGHT THINK SINCE BOTH PLAYERS ROLLING AT THE SAME TIME CUT DOWN ON THE ALTERNATING SHIT OF CURRENT EDITION WHERE YOUR OPPONENT HAS TO MAKE ALL HIS ATTACKS AFTER YOU DO.

SO YOU PICK A MODEL TO FIGHT WITH, AND ONE IN BASE CONTACT WITH IT. BOTH PLAYERS ROLL A NUMBER OF DICE EQUAL TO THEIR ATTACKS CHARACTERISTIC. YOU TAKE THE HIGHEST OF THESE DICE ROLLS, AND ADD THAT VALUE TO YOUR WEAPON SKILL. THERE ARE ALSO MODIFIERS, LIKE +1 IF YOU CHARGED, +1 FOR EACH ADDITIONAL 6 ROLLED BEYOND THE FIRST, AND -1 FOR EACH 1 ROLLED (CALLED A FUMBLE).

COMPARE RESULTS. THE MODEL WITH THE HIGHER RESULT HITS THE OPPONENT EQUAL TO THE DIFFERENCE. SO SAY MY LICTOR CHARGES INTO MELEE WITH A SPACE MARINE. I ROLL 4 DICE AND MY HIGHEST IS, OH, A 5, WHICH IS PRETTY LIKELY ROLLING THAT MANY DICE. I ALSO GET A +1 FOR CHARGING, SO MY TOTAL IS WS 7 +1 +5 OR 13. MY OPPONENT ROLLS HIS ONE ATTACK AND GETS A 4. WS 4 + 4 = 8. I WIN THE COMBAT BY 5 AND HIT HIM 5 TIMES. THEN I MAKE 5 WOUND ROLLS (WOUNDING ON 2S WITH STRENGTH 6 AP -3). THAT MARINE IS FUCKED, AND I TAKE NO DAMAGE. ON A TIE, HIGHER INITIATIVE WINS WITH ONE HIT, ANOTHER ADVANTAGE FOR NIDS.

SO AS LONG AS I'M MAKING GOOD ROLLS WITH MY LICTOR, MY OPPONENT CAN'T EVEN HIT ME, AND I'M GETTING MORE WOUND ROLLS, POTENTIALLY EXCEEDING MY NUMBER OF ATTACKS. THAT'S SO MUCH FUCKING BETTER THAN A 2+ WEAPON SKILL AND THEN THEY SLAP BACK WITH THEIR 2+ WEAPON SKILL -1 FOR CHAMELEON SCALES.

>> No.73726444

>>73726356
I thought you were saying it couldn’t be both. My bad.

>> No.73726446

>>73726383
>>73726407
He knows that, he means that the models were paying extra points in order to ignore the -1 to hit, but now they don't need the ability, but look like they are still paying those extra points for nothing.

>> No.73726451

>>73726363
>complains about the cost of your units
>internet points out its actually cheaper than the chaos/xeno equivalent
>you still complain

literally kys

>> No.73726459

>>73726407
Ah, so you’re a conspiracy nut. Right.

>> No.73726463

>GW hates whiny chaosfags too
Based

>> No.73726466

>>73726440
>Pick whatever store gathers the largest amount of low-income retards, then.
Yeah, I go there pretty much every day since lockdown started but the worst I've seen is hayfever.

>> No.73726471

Maybe now the Guard players will get the hate they've deserved since several editions ago.

>> No.73726472

>*Pages 133 – Regimental Doctrines, Tallarn: Swift As The Wind Change to read: ‘Infantry units with this doctrine are eligible to shoot in a turn in which they Advanced, and if they do, models in that unit can make attacks with weapons they are equipped with (excluding Heavy weapons) as if they had not Advanced. If a Vehicle model with this doctrine Advances, until the end of the turn, the Type characteristic of any Heavy weapons it is equipped with is changed to Assault (e.g. a Heavy D6 weapon becomes an Assault D6 weapon).'
>Tallarn can now advance and shoot with tanks

interesting

>> No.73726474

Can anyone tell me how big the horns on Magnus the red are? (Or take a pic next to a ruler or something)

Both pairs ideally.

>> No.73726477

Guardsmen are way too cheap for how much firepower and possible synergies they can muster. Houserule minimum guardsman cost 8 pts.
Grot cost 4pts as houserule. GW errata fags get out, we make our own erratas. At my place we play so that you get aura effects from inside transports too. You got a problem with that? No? Ok then, let's play.

>> No.73726485

>>73726463
SM babbies will have no other factions to play against soon

>> No.73726488

>>73726459
>Ah, so you’re a conspiracy nut.
Nope, I just think it's weird this killer virus supposedly all over the world but not anywhere I go.

>> No.73726490

>>73726409

>>73724867

>> No.73726498

I understand the riptide point increase but why the Ghostkeels? It is nice that this edition really is dedicated to smaller armoes though

>> No.73726506

Why don’t we just use the Indexes that were much more balanced

Or just make our own balanced Codices? I don’t think it would be hard to organize a group on /tg/ to play test a rule set that another group made

>> No.73726513

>>73726437
They look pretty bad right now, they were my first army and I haven't been able to go back to them for a whole year. I've been practicing on one-off stuff for KT Chaos so I should get to go back and redo them soon, give them less messy highlights and some nice metallic weathering on helmets/suits.

>> No.73726520

>>73726485
>nothing but the best faction

>> No.73726526

>>73726488
>why isnt a global pandemic where world governments are instituting quarantines visible to me

>> No.73726529

>>73726433
Oh, okay. Yeah, that's because GW is retarded and most of the points changes seem like they were arbitrarily done through a slapshod formula and not thought out. Everyone is suffering aside from marine players.

>> No.73726533

>>73726443
you're talking about a later edition. the yellow book that changed the melee rules to be more like space hulk.
Heck yes it was dynamic and usually very quick.

The rogue trader rules were just tables and almost ranked combat like whfb, it was perfectly feasible to do mass combat.

Also squads were never more than 10 dudes back then anyway.

>> No.73726534

>ork and cam dipshits are upset not every army is as shit as theirs and want nerfs instead to then instead of bluffs to theirs
Bet you guys hate free markets in real life too

>> No.73726536

>>73726443
>SO, CLOSE COMBAT IN 2E. YOU RESOLVED IT 1 MODEL VS 1 MODEL AT A TIME. THIS IS WHY IT COULDN'T SUPPORT LARGER GAME SIZES - IMAGINE ROLLING 30 INDIVIDUAL COMBATS FOR A MOB OF BOYZ TO RESOLVE ONE CLOSE COMBAT.
sounds like they should have kept that for challenges and streamlined normal combat

>> No.73726537

>>73724617

>> No.73726538

>>73726498
Why?
It's simple my good man.
Fuck T*u

>> No.73726542

>>73726363
8th stat lines

Conscript
WS/BS5+ S3 T3 W1 A1 Ld4 5+

Lasgun 24" RF1 S3 Ap0 D1
and grenade

Grot
WS5+ BS4+ S2 T2 W1 A1 Ld4 6+

Grot blaster 12" Pistol1 S3 Ap0 D1

both cost the same 5 ppm

>> No.73726543

>>73726506
Isn't that kind of what that One Page Rules thing already did?

>> No.73726546

>>73726064
also you can charge over terrain, whereas FLY doesn't ignore terrain in the charge phase

>> No.73726548

>>73725463
01010100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01001111 01101101 01101110 01101001 01110011 01110011 01101001 01100001 01101000 00100000 01110111 01101001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01110000 01110101 01101110 01101001 01110011 01101000 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110010 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01110010 00100000 01110100 01110010 01100001 01101110 01110011 01100111 01110010 01100101 01110011 01110011 01101001 01101111 01101110 00100000 00101101 00100000 01001000 01100001 01101001 01101100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01010110 01101111 01101001 01100100 00100000 01000100 01110010 01100001 01100111 01101111 01101110

>> No.73726550

>>73726506
Indexes weren't balanced and were dry to boot

>> No.73726557

>>73726451
>this thing is bad
>this thing is even worse
>so you're not allowed to point out this thing is bad
you're american aren't you, you stupid fuck

>> No.73726561

>>73726526
My government can't even fix potholes in the road...
How can they keep this 100% underwraps?

>> No.73726563

Even with the points changes, I think I still have to take cultists over marines. Damn

>> No.73726564

I never get emotional over points changes. They are temporary. A painted model is eternal.
Keep working on your armies, points will change again and again.

>> No.73726573

>>73726498
Ghostkeel is fairly priced given that other armies also had big point increases. Would have been too cheap if they left it

>> No.73726576

>>73726236
>How come I've never seen anybody with it in person?
How big is your social circle? Does it include any doctors and nurses? How many people do you see a day?

>> No.73726579

>>73726364
>One of my factions key abilities was removed and nothing was put in to replace it

Welcome to playing Tyranids, where we've lost more faction rules than most factions have ever had.

>> No.73726580

>>73726477
>>73726471
k
>>73726488
If the virus was so rampant that you were regularly meeting people with it the world would have collapsed.

>> No.73726592

>>73726557
imagine being so fucking dumb you dont see that you getting an objective improvement vs your direct equivalent means your whining is empty

Europoor entitlement

>> No.73726594

>>73726542
grot has better BS and more importantly the strategem to shield guard more important units.
when you have to fire at 5ppm grots rather than the meganobs or dethskulls or whatever, then those are 5ppm well spent.

>> No.73726598

>>73726564
That's because you're a normal person. CSM players have daddy issues and need to cry and lash out over everything.

>> No.73726602

>>73726488
People who are truly sick will not be going into public, anon. They're stuck in bed feeling miserable/in critical condition.

If you want to see evidence, hang out by the hospital for a day. They won't let you inside anyway.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2767980

>> No.73726604

>>73726580
Implying it hasn’t.

>> No.73726610

>>73726561
the point


you

>> No.73726620

>>73726594
Grots are shield drones for 1/3 of the cost now.

>> No.73726624

>>73726602
>medical journal
*yawn* nah I don't read Democrat propaganda

>> No.73726630

>knights can no longer fall back and shoot
>inb4 "but you can shoot in combat"
all good knight weapons are going to be blast, this is still a direct nerf

>> No.73726631

>>73726620
Shield drones are also 4++/5+++

>> No.73726632

>when someone posts a stupid painting question

>> No.73726636

>>73726520
You could have just played horus heresy

>> No.73726642

>>73726256
No problem, make normal guard 6 points. All problems fixed.

>> No.73726650

>>73726598
>Projecting this much.

>> No.73726651

>>73726410
The FAQ needs an FAQ, because the way I understand it, you basically shoot at the nearest enemy you could normally shoot at.

>> No.73726653

>>73726592
Ew, an amerifag

>> No.73726655

>>73726630
Gatling isn't blast

>> No.73726656

> THEY UPDATED THE FAQs

https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/#warhammer-40000

https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/#warhammer-40000

https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/#warhammer-40000

https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/#warhammer-40000

>> No.73726665

>>73726576
>How big is your social circle?
Pretty big.
My family is historically Catholic so I've gout lots and lots of aunts, uncles, cousins and what not.
Then I've got 9 close friends who I know people through, and various coworkers.
Nobody got it or knows anybody who got it.

>>73726602
>People who are truly sick will not be going into public, anon.
But it's supposed to come in mild forms too right? I ain't seen nobody with no flu.

>>73726610
I get I can't see the viruses because they're too small, but the government simply lacks the competence to be 100% effective.

>> No.73726667

>>73726379
HONESTLY I'M ON YOUR SIDE. BUT LIKE I SAID I'LL GET TO THAT IN A WEEK OR SO.

>>73726533
I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT 2ND EDITION ALL ALONG, NEVER ROGUE TRADER. I DIDN'T PLAY ROGUE TRADER.

>>73726443
MELEE HAD FUCKING SOUL WITH THESE RULES. YOU COULD MAKE THOSE WOUND ROLLS WITH ANY WEAPON YOU HAD, INCLUDING PLASMA PISTOLS AND SHIT. YOU COULD PARRY ATTACKS WITH SWORDS (SEE THE WARRIOR BONESWORD DISCUSSION) WHICH MADE YOUR OPPONENT RE-ROLL HIS HIGHEST DICE RESULT. TWO SWORDS MEANT YOU COULD PARRY TWO DICE, IF YOU WANTED. MODELS WITH SIMILAR WEAPON SKILLS HAD CLOSER, TENSER FIGHTS, THAT COULD COME DOWN TO ONE SIDE ROLLING TOO MANY 1'S AND MAKING A CRITICAL MISSTEP. SHIT WAS AWESOME. IT MADE TYRANIDS AWESOME. IT ALSO MEANT YOU WEREN'T LIMITED TO ONLY KILLING AS MANY GUYS AS YOU HAD ATTACKS. A STRONG MODEL COULD RIP ITS WAY THROUGH AS MANY MODELS AS COULD FIT IN BASE CONTACT WITH IT, ALTHOUGH FOR EACH SUCCESSIVE MODEL YOU FIGHT IN THE SAME TURN, THEY GET +1 WEAPON SKILL AND +1 ATTACK, SO A LARGE GROUP OF WEAK ENEMIES MOBBING YOU GETS PROGRESSIVELY HARDER TO DEFEAT.

IT WAS FUCKING FUN. IT FELT LIKE CLOSE COMBAT, NOT LIKE SHOOTING BUT SUBBING IN A DIFFERENT STAT FOR BALLISTIC SKILL. IT WAS UNIQUE AND AWESOME. AND UNLIKE LATER EDITIONS PRIOR TO 8E IT DID STILL HAVE FALLING BACK, TOO, BUT YOU GOT A FREE HIT ON ANY MODEL RUNNING AWAY AND THEY COULDN'T FIGHT BACK - LIKE THE OFTEN REQUESTED "MELEE OVERWATCH" MANY PEOPLE SUGGESTED AS A FIX FOR 8TH.

NOW, LICTORS HAVE TO SLAP AT YOU WITH THEIR 3 ATTACKS WITH NERFED WOUND CHART, AP -1 AND 2 DAMAGE, OR ONLY 1 DAMAGE ATTACKS WITH A CHANCE TO REND ON 6 VS THE BLOATED WOUNDS OF 8TH, AND HOPE THEY SURVIVE THE RETURN SLAPS WITH THEIR TOUGHNESS 4 AND NO INVULN. AND NO BIOMORPHS. THEY ARE FUCKING GARBAGE.

>> No.73726670

>>73726636
what with shitty 7th ed rules? no fucking way.

>> No.73726672

Counting since like 3rd edition, how many codexes has every faction had? How many more do SM have?

>> No.73726673

>>73726632
The real chads use the high-res version

>> No.73726677

>>73726632
if he was that smart he'd use enamel/oil washes.

>> No.73726682

>>73726653
The only good American was David Bowie and he's dead.

>> No.73726686

>>73726620
Shield drones turn an attack into a MW which then can be saved by a 5+++. They are harder to kill with a 4++/5+++ and FLY.
They don't require the use of a stratagem and the shield drones do NOT require to be the closest unit.
Nevertheless they are still good.

>> No.73726692

>>73726682
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>> No.73726698

>>73726620
Saviour protocols is an ability on the datasheet though, not a strategem?

>> No.73726700

>>73726488
it has a much lower death rate of a proper plague, but the fact it can spread fast still creates an emotionally charged death toll that is dangerous for politics and economics and the actual ill are still enough to cause the collapse of the medical systems which were not ready to deal with this large influx of people needing a very specific treatment

>> No.73726704

>>73726686
>>73726631
i play orks, i'm used to being disappointed. i'll take whatever they want to give us.

>> No.73726707

>>73726692

shut your whore mouth

>> No.73726710

>>73726636
And miss out on actually having updates and cool new models?

>> No.73726717

>>73726598
Case in point >>73726592

>> No.73726720

>>73726667
Ah now that was my fave codex.

>> No.73726725

>>73726624
>Literally what is evidence?

If you don't want to see what's happening, stop bitching anon. Every single suggestion people have given you in this thread is met with "I'm too fat/lazy/stupid/stubborn to check that out, no thx."

Why didn't you listen to your dear leader when he suggested using the aquarium cleaners, bleach, or UV lights to rid humanity of the cancer you are?

>> No.73726727

>>73726707

>> No.73726735

>>73726474
here you go. It's a cm ruler.

>> No.73726736

>>73726692
>HE DID, HE TOOK THE BAIT! WHAT AN ABSOLUTE MADMAN!!!

>> No.73726741

>>73726704
it's still a 5 ppm that can negate something like a S8/-4/D6 attack, so it's still pretty good. Use ruins for your advantage (grots stay on the bottom to be the nearest unit).

>> No.73726748

>>73726656
you lagging

>> No.73726750

>>73726145
The disease is real but world governments are milking the shit out of it.
It's opportunity to expand state security and fuck with elections.
It's hard to tell how dangerous or benign the disease is due to differing means of gathering data and, at times, straight up falsification of said data.
Given all this I don't blame you for believing this is some Psy-Op
The disease is most definitely real though, anon.
You can certainly argue that the measures taken to defend against it aren't as helpful as claimed or that it isn't as infectious/deadly as people think.
However, the disease is out there regardless.

>> No.73726758

>>73726090
The bantu expansion was non stop genocide and rape. They are hated by the san for good reasons.

>> No.73726768

GW bringing back Squats because it's not believable Tyranids in their current tabletop form could wipe anything out.

>> No.73726773

>>73724565
Wave 2?? Wth are you guys talking about??

>> No.73726776

>>73726682
do you think that because he wrote and performed the song "young americans" ? Or because he plausibly had some fun with loli jennifer conelly when filming labyrinth?

>> No.73726781

>>73726736
Damn

>>73726768
HAHAHAHA

>> No.73726784

>>73726630
>knights can no longer fall back and shoot
They still can you stupid idiot.
It's in the core rules that <Titanic> can fall back and shoot

>> No.73726785

>>73726700
Sacrifice the boomers to make line go up. It's a win-win

>> No.73726789

>>73726750
Lockstep protocol by the rockfeller, to be used in case potential uprising.

>> No.73726796

>>73726735
>Read that as cum udder
That's enough internet for today

>> No.73726798

>>73726488
What do you think is the reason for faking this?

>> No.73726821

>>73726773
lots of pics online of emails from retailers saying that they will be able to honor some preorders with a second wave of indomitus boxes in august.

>> No.73726827

>>73724685
This was a ride to read, anon

Gonna start a Tyranid army soon

>> No.73726828

> This list, shitty even in casual
> went up to 2,600 points

>> No.73726832

>>73726579
FUCKING THIS.

>>73726667
ALSO, LICTORS USED TO HAVE POISON. IF THEY HURT YOU IN COMBAT BUT YOU DIDN'T DIE, AT THE END OF THE TURN YOU ROLLED A DICE. IF YOU ROLLED OVER YOUR TOUGHNESS YOU SUFFERED WOUNDS EQUAL TO THE DIFFERENCE. THIS IS A RULE THAT COULD EASILY BE TRANSLATED TO 8TH WITH MORTAL WOUNDS. BUT GW JUST DIDN'T. BECAUSE FUCK TYRANID PLAYERS. IT WOULDN'T EVEN BE AS GOOD, BECAUSE OF THE WOUND BLOAT, AND YET, WE STILL AREN'T ALLOWED TO HAVE NICE THINGS.

HAVE YOU NOTICED HOW OFTEN I'VE SAID "THEY COULD TRANSLATE THIS THING DIRECTLY AND IT STILL WOULDN'T BE AS GOOD"? HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT IT'S NOT JUST OUR CODEX THAT'S FUCKED - IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE ENTIRE CORE RULES HAVE BEEN DESIGNED TO MITIGATE AND REDUCE EVERY SINGLE FACTION ADVANTAGE THAT TYRANIDS ONCE HAD? MEANWHILE SOMEHOW THOSE SAME CORE CHANGES HAVE ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS IN EVERY CASE FAVORED IMPERIAL GUARD?

IS ANYONE NOTICING A FUCKING PATTERN HERE??? DON'T WORRY. WE'LL GET BACK TO THIS POINT SOME DAY IN THE FUTURE WHEN I GET TO THE 4TH-5TH EDITION CHANGEOVER... AND EVERY EDITION AFTER THAT. INCLUDING 9TH.

>>73726768
FUCKING FUCK YOU'RE NOT WRONG.

FIX IT GW. FIX THIS FUCKING SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT. FIX IT!

>> No.73726842

Anyone tried painting regular crons in the black-with-green-highlights canoptek style? Considering doing it on the plating for the indomitus warriors with gunmetal "bones" underneath but not sure if it would look shite.

>> No.73726855

>>73726655
yeah but the RFBC, las impulsor, plasma decimator, volcano lance, and twin siegebreaker cannons are. Thermal cannons may get off lucky, but either way, only being able to shoot at the closest unit and none of the rest of your guns sucks.

>> No.73726864

>>73726725
He outright said he wasn't american and yet trump still lives rent free in your head

>> No.73726866

>>73726832
>FAVOURED IMPERIAL GUARD

WITH DAMN GOOD REASON SNA FAG! FUCK YOU! GUARD BEST!

>> No.73726872

>>73726798
A social control test exercise.

>> No.73726876

>>73726798
Same reason for egging on, escalating, and encouraging the riots in America

Killing small businesses and further cementing monied corporate control of the country

>> No.73726884

>>73726828
>Eldar
And not a single fuck were given

>> No.73726894

>>73726872
Ok, but like... why? And why do it the world over, in countries all over the political spectrum leadership-wise?

>> No.73726897

>>73726768
Although to be fair i lost several time to a nid player while using space marines

>> No.73726899

>>73726796
>why are they so sexy?

>> No.73726906

So if I paint hairs with mephiston red, what shade should I use to bring out the details? A friend told me nuln oil would be a mistake but isn't sure what the correct one would be.

>> No.73726909

wow both of the 500 point lists I came up with got fucked. what should I do now?

>> No.73726910

Reminder: SNA is an avatarfag and should be treated accordingly

>> No.73726914

>>73726894
It's not much of a pandemic if it isn't world-wide, anon.

>> No.73726923

>>73726832
Speaking as a squat fan. I want them back but I want their enmity to the tyranids to feel like a man trying to kill the ocean for washing away his home, it should come off as trying to stab water.

>> No.73726929

>>73724617
Bullshit.
I have 4 lgs within 45 minutes.
1 is a MTG Tryhard shithole
3 are great
There's an actual GW within an hour.
All 4 small LGS were offered 45 boxes for 7/25. Only one could move them all the other 3 only took what they had preordered

>> No.73726930

>>73726906
Agrax, with a flash gitz red highlight

(Although why you’re painting hair that red idk)

>> No.73726933

>>73726784
so it is

>> No.73726935

>lose move n shoot
>big scary salt powered robots cost more
>literally nothing has changed

well except ghostkeels becoming useless

>> No.73726943

>>73726910
yeah but he contributes something so I'll let it slide

>> No.73726947

>>73726894
>Ok, but like... why?
A prelude to one world government.

>> No.73726952

>>73726914
>>73726872

>> No.73726957

>>73726914
Ha ha ha. Haha. Ha. Hahaha. Ha ha. Ha. Ha.

>> No.73726964

>>73726832
>Imperial Guard morale gets even better in 9th.

I just want Tyranid-anon to be happy

>> No.73726968

>>73726191
>>73726247
I had it with severe symptoms, still have chest pain from nerve damage in my lungs 2 months later, it's no joke.

>> No.73726971

>>73726872
Why didn't they do that ? And how can they keep the secret for so long yet can't even hide their shit like the panama papers ?

>> No.73726974

>>73726914
Which is the exact point. Which is more likely?

a. Leadership of every nation on the planet get together and decide to run a concerted fake epidemic. America volunteers to play the shockingly incompetent villain of the situation.

OR

b. A novel infectious disease surfaces and spreads around the world because people travel internationally more than ever. Governments respond.

>> No.73726979

>>73726947
That sounds pretty cool to me. Now back to 40k.

>>73726968
F, hope that clears up anon.

>> No.73726991

>>73726930
it's not really hair but some CSM have helmet top knots, and various bits and bobs like hair knots suspended on a chain which I like when they are red.

>> No.73727005

>>73726979
>That sounds pretty cool to me.
How?

>> No.73727009

>Chaos Terminators only went up 1 ppm because combi bolters went up 1 point
>combi meltas and plas only cost 10 points now
The time of the terminator is upon us

>> No.73727013

>STILL NO BATTLESCRIBE UPDATE
STILL NO BATTLESCRIBE UPDATE
>STILL NO BATTLESCRIBE UPDATE
STILL NO BATTLESCRIBE UPDATE
>STILL NO BATTLESCRIBE UPDATE
I am literally to dumb to do this shit manually.

>> No.73727015

>>73726935
>riptides no longer need to take target lock
>can shoot in combat then jump back with Nova boost to overwatch again and get support to kill whatever charged them
>can walk up to obscuring terrain, shoot through it, then jump backwards to avoid retaliation
It's been (0) editions since Riptides have been broken

>> No.73727016

>>73724617

>"living the dream of running my own business"
>just stacks shelves with other people's products and complains when the manufacturer is more successful than you

Have you tried getting a skill people actually want to pay for before trying to run a business?

>> No.73727018

>>73726876
>Killing small businesses and further cementing monied corporate control of the country
This shit was happening anyway. You fucks always say everything exceptional happens to make the status quo happen. Corporations controlled America long before the pandemic. Small businesses were fucked long before the pandemic. Paper money was obsolete ever since debit cards and effectively mandatory bank accounts became the norm.

Your effects all happened before the cause.

>> No.73727033

>>73726935
>literally nothing has changed
Shield Drones are now 15 points.

>> No.73727034

>>73725111
>checked

As a kill team player first and foremost, my group and i have always said that seems to be an issue with full scale 40k, altho given that it could increase already lengthy game times, we know why the game is how it is.

That being said, i got the indomitus box from UK GW pre ordered and am splitting it with our resident marine guy, so we probably will give 500/1000 point games a go

>> No.73727036

>>73726798
A good way to hide the reasonf for the inevitable financial failure of the world AND assert control stronger than even the imperium would.

>> No.73727050

>>73726542
now do Guard vets and cultists

>> No.73727054

>>73727009
Plasmas also don't suffer from -1 to hit making 1s and 2s blowup. I could maybe start using my Alpha Legion terminators.

>> No.73727061

>>73727013
>Copy paste your current 8th edition list from BattleScribe into a text editor
>Change values based off leaks
>Use calculator to find new combined values
Come on anon, this is 3rd grade stuff.

>> No.73727087

>>73727018
This, democracy is going down, all because the mutts got outplayed by the oligarchy.
Fucking 2ndA is a joke when all the gun toting retard bow down to the orange man

>> No.73727091

>>73727013
>weapons have point costs
>base models have point costs
>add em all up
...?

>> No.73727092

>>73726773
It's not a second opportunity to preorder, but 2 waves of delivery.

>> No.73727100

In feel like a solution would be to focus on kill team and run apocalypse for anything needing vehichles, apocalypse would have a ground up rule set, no garbage grandfathered in and it would function.

>> No.73727102

>>73726380
It's a slight improvement on his previous ability, and way more reliable. Great considering Custodes have some expensive stratagems and are CP-starved.

>> No.73727105

>>73726832
SO LET'S REVIEW.

THE LICTOR USED TO BE ABLE TO DEPLOY IN YOUR OPPONENTS DEPLOYMENT ZONE BEFORE THE START OF THE GAME, IN COVER, HIDDEN SO IT COULD ONLY BE DETECTED BY GETTING A UNIT CLOSE TO IT OR USING WARGEAR LIKE AUSPEXES OR BIONIC EYES OR DETECTORS. ONCE DETECTED YOU NEEDED BLAST OR TEMPLATE WEAPONS TO FLUSH IT OUT OF COVER, OR I GUESS YOU COULD CHARGE IT IF YOU WERE A FUCKING MADMAN WITH SOME STRONG MELEE CAPABILITY. IT COULD FIRE FLESH HOOKS FROM 16" AWAY, SPOTTING ANY OF YOUR HIDDEN UNITS UP TO THAT RANGE, AND DRAG YOUR STUFF OUT OF COVER, POSSIBLY INTO BASE CONTACT WITH IT, AND THEN IN THE FOLLOWING TURN YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SHOOT AT IT WITH A -1 TO HIT, PLUS THE -1 OR -2 PROVIDED BY THE COVER IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT THEN HAD TOUGHNESS 5 (WHICH ACTUALLY MEANT SOMETHING AGAINST LASGUNS), AND A 5++ DODGE SAVE, AND POSSIBLY DEFENSIVE BIOMORPHS. IT HAD A 12" CHARGE IN AN EDITION WHERE MARINES COULD ONLY CHARGE 8", AND EQUAL WEAPON SKILL TO A SPACE MARINE CAPTAIN IN AN EDITION WHERE WEAPON SKILL WASN'T JUST OFFENSE IN MELEE BUT ALSO DEFENSE, AND AN INITIATIVE 8 TO GIVE IT THE EDGE IN TIES. IT COULD POISON YOUR STUFF AND THEN FREELY FALL BACK FROM COMBAT WITHOUT YOU BEING ABLE TO HIT IT AND THEN SHOOT ITS FLESH HOOKS PULLING ANOTHER GUY OR TWO INTO COMBAT TO GET FUCKING MURDERED.

IT DID ALL OF THIS FOR TODAY'S EQUIVALENT OF 50 POINTS. AND IT WAS FUCKING BEAUTIFUL. AND IT STILL WASN'T OVERPOWERED, I'VE SEEN GAMES WHERE LICTORS GOT PUNCHED OUT BY SERGEANTS WITH A BIT OF LUCK. BUT YOU SWEAT BULLETS BEFORE YOU GOT THOSE LUCKY ROLLS, YOU DIDN'T SHRUG WHEN A LICTOR CAME OUT. IT DIDN'T DIE TO FUCKING FIRE WARRIORS (EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T AROUND BACK THEN, YOU GET THE POINT)

IT LOST A USEFUL INFILTRATE RULE, THE HIDING RULE, TOUGHNESS, ATTACKS, POISON, FLESH HOOKS THAT ACTED LIKE FLESH HOOKS, THE DODGE SAVE, YOU NEED TO PAY STRATAGEMS TO DO SHIT IT USED TO DO NORMALLY, INITIATIVE IS GONE, AND BEING SKILLED IN COMBAT NO LONGER PROTECTS YOU FROM GETTING HIT

>> No.73727107

>*Page 155, 156, 157, 158, 161 and 164 – Land Raider, Land Raider Crusader, Land Raider Redeemer, Repulsor Executioner, Repulsor and Stormraven Gunship, Abilities, Power of the Machine Spirit Delete this ability
Lol, wrecked.

>> No.73727124

reminder

>> No.73727129

>>73726498
Its guns went down so the net increase is minor.

>> No.73727141

i know it wont happen, but once all the primarchs are back i'd really love if the emperor came back as a big wrathful baddie that nearly tears the empire apart

>> No.73727143

>>73727107
Isn't that just the ability that stops it from getting a -1 to hit from moving and firing heavy weapons?

>> No.73727144

Real Talk
How much longer do you think it will be till the creation of a satisfyingly complete computer simulation of 40K tabletop?

>> No.73727147

>>73726784
what about armigers though?

>> No.73727148

>>73726656
Not Saga of the Beast. Though they took a bit to upload the correct Ork one so hopefully we'll get our answer as to whether the relic battlewagon guns get the shoot twice ability.

>> No.73727150

>>73727107
That rule just did what big guns does now

>> No.73727154

>>73727013
It's monday morning. Even someone doing that as a job would put it off until later

>> No.73727171

>>73727124
There should be a space marine version VS every other faction

>> No.73727172

>>73727144
They did good for Blood bowl

>> No.73727173

>>73727144
It's been possible for years, GW is the blocker.

>> No.73727175

>>73727124
>today I will remind them

>> No.73727176

>>73727144
Never, they don't want to sell less plastic

>> No.73727177

>>73727144
there wont be a 1:1 satisfying game, half the purpose of the game is to hang out and have a good time like a D&D session.

gaming randos in competitive would be hell. the best 40k games will be games set in the universe that do something new while still appealing to fans of the series

>> No.73727180

>>73725681
i remember when fags were saying they wouldn't fix it

>> No.73727182

Where can I see the leaks?

>> No.73727194

>>73726364
>What's wrong with GW?
Hiring beer drinking friend that fellate them correctly instead of competent employees.

>> No.73727195

>>73727107
That's just been rolled into core rules for all vehicles.

>> No.73727197

>>73727182

Plebbit

>> No.73727199

Friendly reminder that Harlequins Death Jester does not ignore the Look out, Sir! rule and can't shoot your characters

>> No.73727200

>>73727124
GW drank the Horus Heresy juice, the only fight they really care about is marines V. spiky marines.

>> No.73727206

>>73726935
>coldstar commander went up by 20 points while getting nerfed
why

>> No.73727210

>>73727182
On the internet

>> No.73727219

>>73727144

Never? There's a reason why not only warhammer but boardgames overall is booming and selling more than possibly ever before. Real physical objects and real pshyical interaction cannot be replaced by vidya.
How many decades will we have this discussion?

>> No.73727220

>>73726935
Crisis got fucked.

>> No.73727222

I play Primaris, AMA

>> No.73727230

>>73727199
if they didnt errata the ability still works, and will ignore characters protected by other abilities that prevent them from being targeted, not just look out sir

>> No.73727236

>>73727124

>> No.73727241

>>73727206
Because they were amazing?

>> No.73727252

Victoria Miniatures quality?

>> No.73727253

>>73727222
Hold on, I'm transferring your call to the Based Department

>> No.73727255

>>73727222
why are you gay?

>> No.73727259

>>73726935
What do you mean by lose move and shoot

>> No.73727260

Well Orks got their +2 hit stuff rolled into bs3, Ad Mech Taser and Electro weapons got completely hosed though.

>> No.73727294

>>73727259
>he doesn't know

>> No.73727299

>>73727124
Huh? Where does it say to delete these abilities in the FAQ?

>> No.73727303

>>73727255
And what do you play?

>> No.73727305

>>73727241
but riptide was even better and barely got touched

>> No.73727320

>>73726828
I feel ya.

My Eldar list is up 300 points and two units just got squated.

If Autarch also lost their weapon I'm getting seriously worried.

Also:
>10 Wraithblades is 500 points


Who in the right mind would think this was a good price?!

>> No.73727324

>>73727236

>> No.73727328

How do I paint Tzeentch Flamers that don't look like ass?

>> No.73727332

>>73726192
ikr? I'm close to suggesting to my buddy I play 40k with we try out 2nd.

Although I play guard and he play Chaos space marines so not sure how things have changed. I know that there used to be suicide guardsmen strapped with explosives which I always wanted to have...

>> No.73727333

>>73727320
Wait what units got squatted

>> No.73727339

>>73727294
I know about the fall back stuff but I thought that Riptides and stuff can fire weapons and move without target lock

>> No.73727346

>>73727206
because they did point changes with a hammer instead of looking at each army individually.

>> No.73727347

>>73727328
You don’t.

>> No.73727351

>>73726971
Nobody remembers the papers anon. No need to hide them when everyone has given up

>> No.73727361

>>73727320
>two units just got squated.
Which ones?
>Who in the right mind would think this was a good price?!
GW are absolutely clueless. There's talk floating around that apparently playtesters didn't get points values, and GW decided to internally balance stuff. Playtesters were given set, "fluffy" lists to play against another list, without knowing what each individually costed.

>> No.73727369

>>73727182
A Dark Angels playtester called BuckAngel broke NDA and posted images of the points book. Games Workshop is taking them down pretty fast though. You might still find them on websites that only remove the image from webpages, not from their servers if you're quick. Image search Buck Angel leaks.

>> No.73727370

>>73726266
same PLEASE someone be saving these. Hell, place 'em in the thread OP

>> No.73727372

post your 9th edition armies

>> No.73727377

>>73727328
Can't look like shit painted if it ain't painted

>> No.73727382

>>73727333
Bonesinger, and Warpjump autarch.

Small ones I know but since I loved both I'm sad about it. Never trust legend.

>> No.73727384

>>73725681
>tfw now Shield Custodian Guards have a 2+/3++ that get's +1 to the save roll. Meaning the opponent needs to use Ap -2 (outside of cover) to increase the Save roll, to which is already in the inv.save. This for a TROOP unit.
In cover they need to be targeted by Anti-Tank weaponery to even increase their sv of 2+.
>tfw your TROOPs are T5 that require AP-3 to even feel the itch from flying pebbles.

>> No.73727393

>>73727018
This is the nail in the coffin, the finishing blow or beginning of the end and you know that's what I meant

>> No.73727397

>>73727382
Did the autarch come with those options or did you have to convert

>> No.73727401

Where can I find ninth edition points leaks?

>> No.73727406

Someone else posted my list and exaggerated points differences, but here's my 9e list now, with new pts changes taken into account. It was about 1,800 barebones before, now it's 2,090 barebones, and I'd definitely want to take upgrades here - it'd likely end up being something like 2,200pts with the upgrades I'd want.

>> No.73727407

>>73727303
primaris

>> No.73727410

>>73727369
>A Dark Angels player
So if they ban/blacklist this guy will he be Fallen or Unforgiven?

>> No.73727411

>>73727369
>google Buck Angel leaks
Nice try Anon, I am forewarned

>> No.73727420

>>73727384
Based brainlet

>> No.73727423

>>73727382
They're not squatted, you can play them in legends, like you did in 8e when they were in legends.

>> No.73727427

>>73727372
I honestly don't fucking want to.

>> No.73727432

>>73727407
Welcome, brother.

>> No.73727442

>>73727423
Well I'd be very happy to find out that's true but a thread or so ago somoene said if it didn't get point update it isn't valid in a new edition.

Still waiting on the jury on Autarch weapons though.

>> No.73727443

>>73727372
I will when someone posts the updates, I'm too lazy to do it myself.

>> No.73727444

>>73727372
I don't have any armies. I'm just here to tell people primaris is shit

>> No.73727452

>>73727393
>Everythings going my way. Better risk everything to create total chaos, that way everything will go my way slightly faster!
Is the International Jewish Conspiracy run by Dick Dastardly?

>> No.73727455

>>73727320
>If Autarch also lost their weapon I'm getting seriously worried.
7th ed autarchs got legends'd a while ago. The codex autarchs with no weapon options are all we have

>> No.73727461

>>73727105
OH I FORGOT, IT LOST THE FEAR RULE TOO.

AND THE WORST PART IS, THE NUMBER ONE THING TYRANID FANS HAD BEEN ASKING FOR SINCE 3RD FUCKING EDITION CAME AROUND, WAS A FIX TO THE LICTOR. THEY KEPT TRYING DIFFERENT WAYS TO IMPLEMENT IT IN 3RD AND 4TH. IT WAS BAD, THEN OKAY AGAIN, THEN WORSE, THEN REALLY WORSE... IT JUST KEPT GETTING FUCKED. ESPECIALLY ONCE CRUD TOOK OVER AND YOU COULDN'T EVEN CHARGE FROM DEEP STRIKE ANYMORE UNTIL 8TH, AND THEN YOU COULD BUT YOU NEEDED TO STAY 9" AWAY FROM SCREENS. AND YOU CAN JUST SHOOT THE FUCKING THING BECAUSE IT'S SINGLE NON-CHARACTER MODEL WITH WORSE DEFENSIVE STATS THAN 2 RAVEN GUARD INTERCESSORS IN COVER. AND LESS ATTACKS, FOR THAT MATTER.

A LICTOR, AN ENTIRE ELITE CHOICE, ONE OF THE MOST FEARED CREATURES IN THE LORE, ONE OF THE STEALTHIEST, DEADLIEST, GIANT MONSTERS TWICE THE HEIGHT OF A MAN WITH THESE HUGE RIPPING CLAWS AND LIGHTNING FAST REFLEXES, IS NOW WORTH ABOUT 1.5 WHOLE SPACE MARINES. IT'S ALMOST A STRICTLY WORSE VERSION OF THE GENESTEALER CULT LOCUS WHICH BASICALLY HAS MOST OF ITS MISSING RULES NOW. HOW THE FUCK? I MEAN JUST READ THIS. CULT AMBUSH IS MORE LIKE INFILTRATE - CHECK. 5++ DODGE, CHECK. 4 ATTACKS WITH AP -3 (AND DAMAGE 2 ON CHARGE), CHECK. ALWAYS STRIKE FIRST TO MAKE UP FOR INITIATIVE 8, CHECK. PLUS A TAIL ATTACK. -1 LEADERSHIP AURA AS A DISCOUNT SHITTY WATERED DOWN FEAR ABILITY, CHECK. IS A CHARACTER SO IT CAN INTERVENE AND HAS TARGETING PROTECTION, CHECK.

NOT TO SHIT ON MY GENESTEALER HYBRID COUSINS, BUT JUST. A LOCUS SHOULD NOT BE SUPERIOR TO A LICTOR. IT'S PRIMARILY A BODYGUARD. BUFF THE FUCKING LICTOR GW. THIS ISN'T ROCKET CHIRURGY.

>> No.73727463

>>73727199
Using Jesters fir character assassination is the wrong way to use them.

>> No.73727467

>>73727420
>brainlet
please explain

>> No.73727469

>>73727369
>A Dark Angels playtester called BuckAngel

>> No.73727477

>>73727372
I'd need to know how much my hellforged contemptor costs. Any idea when FW points are leaking?

>> No.73727478

>>73727444
Thank you for your service

>> No.73727487

>>73727477
bro just go listen to SS82 read them to you

>> No.73727498

>>73724529
Anyone have the link toall the points cost changes ?

>> No.73727500

>>73727369
you fucker lmao

>> No.73727505

>>73727461
It's simple, genestealers are part human. Which makes the GW team give a shit about them.

>> No.73727512

Points are getting squatted in 9th

>> No.73727526

>>73727463
Sure, they are very good at other things but with that new relic gun they are pretty good at killing supporting characters with a single shot.
Like Eldar Warlocks on bikes and Astropaths

>> No.73727529

>>73726943
I just skip right over it.

>> No.73727535

>>73727517
lol nobody is clicking that retard

>> No.73727538

>>73727328
Air brush and lots of masking

>> No.73727542

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IRnHYqQfUNymy6be2vn9iZAczaR8HTblA-Id1qEBnlU/htmlview?usp=sharing&pru=AAABc204XP0*5mOppNk8URwm7lZvOSB9vw#
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IRnHYqQfUNymy6be2vn9iZAczaR8HTblA-Id1qEBnlU/htmlview?usp=sharing&pru=AAABc204XP0*5mOppNk8URwm7lZvOSB9vw#
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IRnHYqQfUNymy6be2vn9iZAczaR8HTblA-Id1qEBnlU/htmlview?usp=sharing&pru=AAABc204XP0*5mOppNk8URwm7lZvOSB9vw#

No ask-o again o

>> No.73727552

>>73727517
well if OP linked it in the OP then i wouldn't have too

thanks though, i appreciated it

>> No.73727562

not sure if this photo size worked out, but anon did deliver.

>> No.73727569

>>73727542
Thanks anon.

>> No.73727577

>>73726798
rich people get richer
middle class gets poorer
governments get more authority on security and people's freedoms
public opinion gets engineered
no need to pay the pensions of the dead
illegal workers with no pretences of security become even more competitive on the workplace
immigration advocates can push for giving citizenship to illegals "to protect them" from similar situations

>> No.73727584

>>73727562
Not really hard to justify expanding your main army, to be fair.

>> No.73727586

>>73727517
Make it saveable so I can fuck around with my own copy?

>> No.73727617

Should I get another Tzeentch SC or another box of bloodletters


Or something else

>> No.73727637

>>73727617
What do you have already?

In a vacuum I say I like bloodletters more.

>> No.73727644

>>73727617
Get a bloodthirster

>> No.73727646

>>73727586
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-orE6HSrv3zYnI5UfXgctcSuezpLf7fK8F_8nR1M2KA/edit#gid=0

>> No.73727647

>>73727562
Oh, the guy with the Nurgle army bought more Nurgle?

>> No.73727648

>>73727467
The rules for indomitus only apply for indomitus, every other stormshield still give a 3++

>> No.73727680

>>73727584
>>73727647

>demons of chaos = deathguard

even sharing the nurgle keyword isn't good enough for synergy in most cases.

>> No.73727682

>>73727577
If the poor have nothing there is nothing to spend and then the Rich have no money to make and the nation has no taxes revenue to harvest

>> No.73727688

>>73727648
>The rules for indomitus only apply for indomitus, every other stormshield still give a 3++
yet
The moment the new codexes start releasing, chances are it will become normalized again. Wargear with the same name is equal in every army.

>> No.73727689

so did everyone's army go up like 200-300 points

>> No.73727701

>>73727487
>You just made me do that
what tardhead would do a video like that?

>> No.73727702

>>73727647
so?

>> No.73727705

>>73727689
How much did noise marines and daemonettes go up?

>> No.73727714

>>73727372
>10 man intercessors group
Get blasted

>> No.73727718

>>73727682
That's why we invented credit

>> No.73727722

>>73727689
i think sisters only around 150

>> No.73727732

>>73727714
>What are combatsquads

>> No.73727738

>>73727714
Those go to two five man squads when the game starts.

>> No.73727740

>>73727714
>implying I'm not combat squading them

>> No.73727742

>>73727646
Still not working but thanks for trying. Looks like Google is having big difficulties these days. Can't even fucking print from Gmail in Chrome

>> No.73727745

>>73727406 (me)
Now I'm thinking about it, it's going to be hard to adjust this list.

This is the "49 Handmaidens of Iybraesil" army, which means I'm restricted to:

> 49 Eldar in the army, no more, no less.
> At least 10 must be howling banshees
> I do like Fire Dragons a lot, so I want to keep them.

And now I'm over by 90 points (likely more because that's barebones), which means I need to make cuts. The Hemlock could go, but I'd need to add a model in somewhere, and it also means I lose a psyker.

Worse still, I just bought an Eldar plane BNIB for £30 three days ago, I'll have to wait for a points drop on a bunch of stuff to fit it in again

>> No.73727746

>>73724589
spotted the eldar faggot

>> No.73727748

>>73727705
daemonettes 1 point
noise marines..... 3 points

>> No.73727749

>>73727705
daemonettes up 1
noise marines up 3

>> No.73727755

>>73724529
Black Library mega link, please?

>> No.73727773

>>73727748
>>73727749
Thanks.

My army went up a little bit then. Maybe like 150-200 points, tops.

>> No.73727777

>>73727705
The sonic weapon went up too.

>> No.73727790

>>73727775
>>73727775
>>73727775
>>73727775

>> No.73727799

>>73727777
nice digits

>> No.73727820

>>73727755
nuked (again)
thanks to plebs posting it on reddit

>> No.73727863

>>73727799
Thanks. I got it for papa Nurgle

>> No.73727866

>>73727820
fucking really?
Dammit

>> No.73727908

>>73727542
Thanks mate!

>Open eldar, all that red

I want to get off this ride.

>> No.73727968

>>73727397
Used the Forgeworld guy as a "autarch with jump pack and reaper launcher" after they Legended the warpjump I didn't trust it would stay.

Little did I know that they would take away my weapons aswell now. Also ded bonesinger.

>> No.73728025

>>73724796
Chain lances sound pretty rad though.

>> No.73728170

>>73725368
Fuck I don't care, this stopped being funny a while ago.

>> No.73728199

>>73725983
Holy fuck, you from the UK?
This was and still is my clubs playlist

>> No.73728438

>>73727452
>The riots were even remotely risky for the big corps
>In reality they destroyed small businesses all over the place, encouraged the brain dead Americans that everything was the fault of race and not class, and convinced the blacks that corpos are on their side
>and police were openly attacking peaceful protests to escalate, leaving pallets of bricks around the city, and attacking bystanders and press cor
enjoy your Amazon future when Amazon co police catered by Burger King, subsidiary of McDonald's

>> No.73728473

>>73727682
>>73727718
Welcome to neolib capitalism

>> No.73728496 [DELETED] 

>>73725396
Sisters of Snu-Snu when?

>> No.73728509

>>73728438
Basically this.
Even worst case scenario the big corps would get bailed out for any damages.

>>73727682
The endgoal of neoliberalism is the creation of a neofeudalism.
But the replacement of serfs with a class of worker/consumers. Worksumers.

>> No.73728858

*ahem*
Fuck jannies
and most of all
fuck games workshop

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