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>> No.73432605

first for tau deserve good overwatch

>> No.73432613

Second for follow the codex

>> No.73432618

IRON WITHIN
IRON WITHOUT

>> No.73432635

>> No.73432636

nth for sell your fucking razorback turrets on ebay
chaos players need them for defilers

>> No.73432646

Necrons!

>> No.73432653 [DELETED] 

first for we desperately need male sisters of battle

>> No.73432661

>>73432605
All vermin must be exterminated!

>> No.73432670

>>73432605
I agree they should keep FTGG on the units that have them. But there should be a once per turn limit to it being used. Let the certain tau units OW for free when they are being charged, but limit the ability to link nearby units to OW to once per turn.

>> No.73432677

>>73432605
You...
Or false flag?

>> No.73432678

They shrug off the pariah Nexus. They are IMMUNE to Alpha Legion psychic trickery,

It is official.

The space. Paladins. Are. Back.

>> No.73432696

what would the term be for a model made exactly like green army men? do they even exist in 40k?

>> No.73432700

>>73432612
I don't know how they're justifying their constantly increasing prices, but it can only get worse.

>>73432605
That's fair, too bad good gunlines aren't fun to play against when played properly with cheese.

>>73432653
Misters of Battle is funny.

>> No.73432704

>burnt out painting in feb
>nurgles plaufe sapped any desire to paint
>suddenly want to paint again, bought a trio of zoomer marines online
>wait a week
>"lol fuck you, it just shipped yesterday

>> No.73432705

>>73432678
My face when

>> No.73432707

>>73432696
you man cadians?

>> No.73432720

>>73432618
considering night lords are canon russian
>every narrator gives them russian accents

>> No.73432722

To anyone who hasn't seen this beautiful gem of a voice-over, I come bearing gifts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIrDYVriLYk

>> No.73432728

>>73432704
Chinese plague has fucked everyone over.

>> No.73432729

Is total war warhammer good if I know nothing of the verse?

>> No.73432735

>>73432620
>9 and 12 of the same model
>Too much
I guess 40k just isn't going to be yur game then.

>> No.73432738

>>73432707
huh? aren't they completely assembled & posable?

>> No.73432742

>>73432729
Yeah, it's the best Warhammer video game out there.

>> No.73432749

>>73432729
Yeah, it really is.
I hope we get a Total Warhammer 40k too.

>> No.73432756

>costs 3cp to take a superheavy aux detachment now
>this kills the stompa
who else here whiny xenofag?

>> No.73432757

>>73432729
It is. Total Warhammer would have been a gateway drug for WFB if GW hadn't axed the latter

>> No.73432760

BEEP BEEP MOTHERFUCKERS

Seriously this is the best GW dreadnought, and it's not even a dreadnought

>> No.73432762

>>73432729
good for warhammer fantasy, but sadly a redundant verse because that's the old world.

They retconned it with a forced plot advancement.

>> No.73432763

>>73432704
Stop. No one cares.

>> No.73432769

>>73432729
If you are interested in WFB yes. Otherwise it's just a mediocre total war game with less depth than usual.

>> No.73432770

>>73432756
What will I do without my obelisk?

>> No.73432771

this guy looks very cool , i really wouldent want to fuck it up with my shit painting skills

>> No.73432780

>>73432729
yeah because it's the best total war game ever made, the chinese total war was a huge step backwards

>> No.73432785

>>73432770
Still run it because 3cp is fuck all to lose when you get 10+ now

>> No.73432787

>>73432756
I mean, nobody in their right mind even touched a stompa so why does that matter anyway?

Shit was so hilarious when GW hyped it up before the 8th edition Ork codex release, only for a stompa to get killed in a 1v1 vs a IK first time shown on stream.

>> No.73432794

>>73432771
>GW forgot to reveal his datasheet before pre-orders went out
Anybody who bought him already is a simp lol

>> No.73432798

>>73432771
bruh if you try as hard as you can, and thin your paints, yours will look good too

I believe in you

>> No.73432799

>>73432720
Sure, but Iron Warriors embody the Russian attitude of "Everything is shit, so why worry about it?" better than most in 40k

>> No.73432801

>>73432760
Butcher Cannons are so fucking sexy that I'm putting them on my Contemptors. I don't care that they're oversized.

>> No.73432802

>>73432756
>taking a stompa

>> No.73432809

>>73432613
"Ahem" FUCK THE C*DEX!

>> No.73432813

>>73432787
Maybe the thing should stay in fucking apoc then the type of game it was made for anyway.

>> No.73432816

>forgot to paint my sisters in sub-assemblies
How fucked am I?

>> No.73432820

>>73432794
>Buying models purely based on how OP their rules are
>And not based on how cool you think the model looks

The real simp is you

>> No.73432826

>>73432771
If you collect necrons, go ahead and get it, paint it as good as you can, and enjoy it. Nothing wrong with that

>> No.73432830

>>73432809
Did I say follow it to the letter? I said follow it.
mind is in the right place though brother.

>> No.73432832

>>73432729
its the only good game that warhammer and 40k have ever had
>b-but muh space marine
generic 3d gears clone
>b-but muh mechanicus
shitty waterd down xcom eu clone
>b-but but BFGA 2
great battles but the game is ruined by the worst campaign style ever put into a game and necrons get shafted hard

>> No.73432839

>>73432813
Anon, even in Apoc nobody would take a stompa. The only use that model has is as a paperweight.

Imperial Knight should have been restricted to apoc too.

>> No.73432845

>>73432756
It was dead before.
You should get 2-3 cp for taking one.

>> No.73432850

>>73432813
I'd say the same about Knigts, but here we are all the same.

>> No.73432853

>>73432605
no, tau deserve mobile and synergizing warfare noch castling crap overwatch and drone spam
they should be completely rewritten and I say this especially because I hate tau

>> No.73432854

>>73432839
>Imperial Knight should have been restricted to apoc too
No, knights and knight equivalents are fine, anything above is fucking dumb and the whole having to take a centerpiece unit is dumb too.

>> No.73432855

>>73432756
maybe the stompa is good in this edition

>> No.73432861

>>73432820
>Giving GW money before you know what you're buying
Simps like you are the reason GW doesn't respect it's playerbase

>> No.73432862

>>73432787
>I mean, nobody in their right mind even touched a stompa so why does that matter anyway?

I posted a couple threads ago that I love my stompa model but its so overcost that I won't play it in a game. This Anon believes that apparently that makes me a WAACfag.

>> No.73432871

>>73432832
vermintide?

>> No.73432879

>>73432720
i think those are supposed to be bad dracula accents

>> No.73432880

>>73432832
Dawn of War.

>> No.73432882

>>73432760
This is why you dont replace core day with shoulders day

>> No.73432887

>>73432816
Why would you paint them in sub -assemblies?

>> No.73432888

>>73432854
Oh, I see. You're one of THOSE

>> No.73432893

buying models because you think they're cool and you want to paint them>buying models because you like the lore>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>buying models to fill out your force org>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>buying models for rules

>> No.73432896

>>73432705
Those helmets are so nice, I'm happy the kit has enough and some spare.
>>73432887
Their guns are held right at their chests, so I can't reach their chest with a brush lol.

>> No.73432897

>>73432861
>you know what you're buying
It's a plastic model.

>> No.73432901

>>73432871
Fatshark are a bunch of incompetent devs. Working on meme gamemodes no one wants, such as the Weave and soon also versus mode. Endgame sucks balls, the grind is boring and maps come out once in a blue moon. They're sitting on a goldmine but would rather pick their noses.

>> No.73432902

>>73432862
A WAACfag would not even own a stompa to begin with, lol.

Must have been a in experienced troll.

>> No.73432927 [DELETED] 

>move to new small city because in the military
>only one lgs
>go check it out
>smells like BO
>check out their facebook
>"We support LGBTQ! Everyone is welcome here!"
Guess it's another 4 years of no games

>> No.73432932

>>73432862
My stompa has seen plenty of great victories and of course defeated. Maybe get good, scrub? Otherwise play for fun instaed of being salty you suck at being a waac fag?

>> No.73432933

>>73432861
The rules will get changed within a month if not on release through FAQ, CA and what not.

The model will never change anon. You buy models for their rules, you might as well have wiped your fat arse with that money before flushing it down the toilet.

>> No.73432945

>>73432927
Go there
Be a chad
If they get butthurt, prove you're military
watch them reel back.

>> No.73432956

>>73432862
Nobody cares you whiny bitch.

>> No.73432963

>>73432588

I have decided I'm going to add an HQ detachment to my deathguard army. It will be comprised of:

>poxbringer
>demon prince of nurgle
>Horticulus slimux (because I love the model)

>> No.73432964

>>73432760
>buy one from forge world with duel soulburner petards
>look forward to mortal wounding shit off the table
>day of game finally arrives, opponent does some raven guard shinigins and obliterates it first turn
>corona appears and haven't played since
>rules update for FW units approaching, may never get to mortal wound things off the table

I'm going to demand a refund if they change it for the worse

>> No.73432966

>>73432861
I know exactly what I'm buying anon, its the fucking model I'm not buying the rules.

>> No.73432969

>>73432896
>Their guns are held right at their chests, so I can't reach their chest with a brush lol.
Paint that first, then touch-up the gun later. And since they hold the guns to their chests, nobody is gonna see what's under there anyway.

>>73432927
Play at home.

>> No.73432970

>>73432801
Same

>> No.73432972

>>73432813
What if I want to use one lord of war, and not break the bank by needing to buy a shit ton?

>> No.73432973

>>73432933
I can just wait a month or two until the codex comes out, then buy things based on that because GW won't update necron rules for another edition. It's a cool model, but there are more on the way.

>> No.73432977

>>73432964
>buys models for rules
>gets absolutely rekt
you deserve it

>> No.73432979

>>73432945
>proceed to have nobody to play with
yep checks out

>> No.73432983

>>73432932
post time stamp picture of your stompa

>> No.73432993

>>73432760
I hate the texture it has, with those weird welts on the armor plates

>> No.73432996

>>73432927

>only 1 lgs
>smells like BO

this is the majority of cities everywhere unless you're in a big city

>> No.73432998

>>73432972
Then run a low and take your 3cp loss its fucking nothing in larger games.

>> No.73433002

>>73432635
dear god, the hardcore yaoi stuff is back. Do you have link for the rest of it so I can send it to a friend and see how they react?

>> No.73433003

>>73432956
But you did. ;) Hugs and kisses, sugar plum.

>> No.73433006

>>73432969
Hmm good point. I just remember my necrons tended to hold their guns far away so there was lots of space, and I was kinda worried with how close the sisters guns are. I'm sure you're right tho, they should be fine.

>> No.73433011

>>73432927

Shit it must have been horrible when they dragged you to the ground and forced you into a dress, and had you spend all day using proper pronouns and tasing you when you got it wrong.

Truly fucking suffering, I agree you should never go back.

>> No.73433013

>>73432964
>threatening to refund because the rules changed

anon I don't know what to tell you... but like.. this is the company that deleted an entire ruleset to the point where retards were burning their minis

you're not going to get a refund lol

>> No.73433015

>>73432998
I'm directing this at the people who say "keep LoWs in Apocalypse"
I have no problem with paying a small CP tax to use my Lord of Skulls

>> No.73433025

>>73432801
>Decimator bigger than a Leviathan
>2 less wounds than ordinary contemptor
How so?

>> No.73433034

>>73432983
Give me a couple of hours and I will. But trust me or don't, well adjusted folks don't need an optimized list every game to have fun.

>> No.73433043

>>73432973
Oh yes, I'm real sure all those necron players are really happy about all the necron flyers they bought in previous editions.

>> No.73433049

>>73433002
https://kiahl.newgrounds.com/
all of them are on here for easy viewing so yo don't need to scroll through a bunch of twitter stuff

>> No.73433054

>>73433025
Decimator is made with xeno tech so can't be as retard strong as imperial tech.

>> No.73433057

>>73432970
They don't look too oversized to be fair, it a is a giant walker

>> No.73433058

What would a fluffy alpha legion list look like? Just cultists, marines and dreads? Is there a fluffy reason they would have possessed

>> No.73433074

>>73432972
Then play one in larger games.

>>73433006
Literally the only way to see there would be to pick it up and look at it from above with a flashlight.

>> No.73433079

>>73433058
some alpha legion are lost and wholly devoted to chaos, they're not all epic 4d chess meme-lords

>> No.73433082

>>73433043
Yes I like my fleet of croissants, you think I only got them for 8th?

>> No.73433085

What armies feature rats?

>> No.73433086

>>73433054
Such a good model though here is my one I'm working on

>> No.73433094

>>73433058
>fluffy alpha legion list look like?
Ultramarines

>> No.73433101

>>73433058
Yeah they use forced possessed as a terror tactic
Also, don't forget to use and convert Arkos, their only special character with rules (he's pretty good and cheap)

>> No.73433112

>>73433086
Looks good mate. What's life like being half australian?

>> No.73433113

>>73433074
Oh thank goodness, also those look nice, I like the dark metal, it's pretty similar to what I'm trying to do for mine.

>> No.73433118

>>73433085
shut up ratfag, youre in almost every thread

>> No.73433128

>>73432888
He probably is.
"My knights are OK. Other faction's Knight Equivalents are not. Only I should have the good units because I am the main character."

>> No.73433132

>>73433112
Feels good man, I'm on mobile and it does it nearly every time

>> No.73433155

>>73433085
dark mechanicus

>> No.73433161

>>73432588
Delet this, without Lorgar there is no 40k

>> No.73433167

>>73433128
He does sound like a colossal cockmongler.

>> No.73433168

>>73433101
Is there any official lore of them using chaos demons/demon princes as a tactic?

>> No.73433183

>>73433118
40k is one of the greatest games ive ever played. many games of 40k i have played, i like to play space marine iron hand scpater and blood angels chapters . i do not like encron models. I hate the necrons! they look so bad and stupid and not realistic. how do they even move if they are made of metal they would be so heavy they would get very tired without muscles or hearts or vaginas to help them be alive they are really just made of metal it doesnt make any sense i dont understand it really the guy at the games worskshop store looked at me like was crazy when i asked him but the guy at the games workshop store has a brain and heart and a penis and he is alive now the encrons lore doesnt make any sense i hatE THE NEW BOX SET I WILL NEVER BUY IT OKAY SPACE MARINES BLOOD ANGELS HAVE GOOD HUMAN PARTS AND NECRONS CANT MOVE WITHOUT MUSCLES ITS DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE >>73433101
>>73433074
>>73433013
>>73433011
>>73433006
>>73432970

>> No.73433192

>>73433167
To be fair; I have no idea if a Stompa is a Knight equivalent though, or if that is more on the Morka/Gorkanaught level.
I haven't seen either and as such doesn't know their rules. I am of mind that Big centerpiece models should be exclusive to bigger scale wars.

>> No.73433194 [DELETED] 

>> No.73433217

>>73433192
YOU ARE OF THE WRONG MIND. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY MODELS WHEREVER I WANT TO OKAY AND DONTE TELL ME WHAT TO DO YOU REATARD I SHOULD BE ABLE TO BRING THE STOMPA INTO PATROL LEVEL GAMES OKAY PLEASE STOP TALKING

>> No.73433219

>>73432771
unless you have 0 idea how to paint, it'll be fine if you're patient whilst painting.
just paint this one before you glue all the bits together though or that's gonna be a massive bitch to get at

>> No.73433225

>>73433183
>tell a retard that he won't get a refund

>be accused of hating necrons

excuse me what?

>> No.73433236

>>73433194
Please don't try to push the AllLivesMatter politics here, we're trying to talk about 40k to get away from such things.

>> No.73433242

>>73433192
The Stompa is weird because it's probably the biggest plastic superheavy in the game despite being one of the weakest

>> No.73433249

>>73433034
>well adjusted folks don't need an optimized list every game to have fun
you must have a decent LGS then, there are only 5 regulars at mine and they all run competitive lists. you know its bad when the regulars with comp lists won't play the other regulars with comp lists because they fight cancer with cancer.

>> No.73433257

>Yo! When da Imperahum fahrst encountered da T’au Empahre some 6, 000 years before da Era Indoesmahtus, day was lahttle mo tha warrahng trahbes of savages. Then da Edareals cise – regal a' ahmperahous beahngs whose mere presence seemed ta possess a ahntrahnsahc power ta unahte da T’au peep. Wahth daahr nascent cahvahlahzatahon workahng tagedar as one ‘for da Greater fly’, da T’au Empahre developed at a astanahshahng rate. What it is, like, Mama! Dahvahded ahnta fahve castes – Fahre (mahlahtary), like, Aahr (avahatahon a' ahnterstellar travel), Water (dahplomacy a' admahnahstratahon), like, Earth (scahentahfahc research a' constructahon) a' Edareal (leadershahp a' strategy) – all workahng seislessly tawards a common goal, da T’au Empahre flourahshed exponentahally. Slap mah fro!

What did they mean by this?

>> No.73433270

>>73433242
Big in size or quantity while still being completely worthless the the hallmark of an Ork army.

>> No.73433271

>>73433217
Well, I would have no problems with a narrative game where you have a Patrol level of units trying to sabotage a LoW in the dark of night, so I get what you're trying to say Even if it is ironic shitposting for fun.
I'm just a simple person that feels like a battlefield shouldn't really contain super-weapons or legendary characters until it becomse a certain scale. I'm probably boring but each to one's own.

>> No.73433275

>>73433257
wot

>> No.73433317

>>73433079
alpha legion is actually 2 separate legions one of loyal meme lords and the other totally fallen meme lords, but neither knows which is which.

>> No.73433320

>>73433242
it wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt as hilariously overpriced, it's about 2x more expensive than it should be.

>> No.73433326 [DELETED] 

>>73433194
>>73433236
You won't be missed.

>> No.73433332

>>73433271
WHY THE FUCK IS YOUR PURPLE SUN GREEN AAAA

>> No.73433336

So Fulgrim is the next Primarch to get a model?

>> No.73433338

>>73433326
My army has a 2+ BS, you won't be missed either.

>> No.73433349

>>73432605
That they do, but 8th edition’s version of “for the greater good” would have been great in and of itself. The Tau do not need to completely negate one of 9th’s biggest rule changes (especially since they have the option to hit overwatch on 5+) and I say that as a Tau player

>> No.73433356

>>73433332
Because I felt like it. = )

>> No.73433364

>>73432729
Yes it is, but you’re in the wrong general friend.
Don’t start with 2 though; buy the first and work from there if you enjoy it

>> No.73433368

>>73433317
Your enemies can't know your plans if you don't know your plans.

>> No.73433380

>>73433168
Can't remember if it was official or not, but there was an anecdote somebody posted about AL kidnapping guardsmen and forcing daemons into them, then sending the possessed soldiers back. After a while the whole platoon started to panic because random guardsmen were turning into monsters, and in the end the commissars killed every guardsman in the platoon and then killed themselves

>> No.73433391

>>73432762
Funnily enough the popularity of Total War: Warhammer very well may be the soul reason GW is bringing back “the old world”

>> No.73433392

>>73432970
so can you attach decimator butchers to contemptors with minimal fiddeling? Never tried FW models before.

>> No.73433419

>>73433380
That's pretty badass

>> No.73433430

>>73432832
>only good game
Oh yeah?

>> No.73433432

>>73433391
Another reason could be the actual batshit madlads that ordered 20 models each of the "make-to-order" range when they had that.
Some absolute fuck-o ordered 20 Lord Greasious from the Ogre Kingdom range.
20 Legendary lords. For an army that no longer exists. Just to support GW's greasy spending habits.

I think they're bringing it back because their customer base are still throwing money at them without reason, and imagine how much they'd throw at them if given a reason.

>> No.73433448

>>73432839
Stompas are amazing and nothing you say or do will change my mind.

>> No.73433456

>>73433448
In which way do you feel they are amazing Anon?

>> No.73433462

>>73433380
>and in the end the commissars killed every guardsman in the platoon and then killed themselves

ok now those are the kind of subversive operations I can get behind, not this "we intended to lose for the plan!" bullshit that BL tries to pass off as tactics.

>> No.73433466

>>73433448
The models are indeed gorgeous

It's rules make it worse than an Imperial Knight whilst costing like three times as much points.

>> No.73433503

Is there some secrate tequnique or mind set to airbrusing minis? I used my badger a lot for planes and gundams. But after hand brushing 60 boys a ghaz and some random other things, Im only just now trying it on a morkanaught. A lot of what I used to do was just a basic preshade. And it was fine considering most planes/gundams were at MOST 3 colors. But all this 40k shit is so small and/or has so many details it seems like i would have to mask the fuck out of everything, or get the PERFECT mix consistency AND be a free hand god to get anything done. Pic related is the naught from last night. Ive done so much touch ups and clean ups tonight that i wounder why im even trying it on somthing like this. I mean I might as well get a black rattle can at this point.

>> No.73433551

>>73433503
Pic related is where its at now. I was trying to go for a fade inot the red for the skull, but it just ended up looking like shitty overspray. I want to try a glow effect on theese lists, but im guessing it will just look like shitty over spray again. idk though, even a lot of 'good' glow effect just look like over spray to me.

>> No.73433600

>>73433503
>>73433551
I find airbrushing best for big areas as you've found with vehicles and such. Doing small details takes a lot of practice and time to tape parts of the mini off to avoid overspray. I also don't have great control but thats due to injuries not healing correctly and fucking up my range of motion. I just use the airbrush for priming, base coating, and varnishing, do all of my large area stuff with it and do the details and highlights by brush.

>> No.73433602

Is her familiar just a regular animal? I thought familiars were typically warp related but maybe I've just been dead wrong about that this whole time

>> No.73433614

>>73433602
looks like a god damn eldar

>> No.73433624

Hey

Im working on a new homebrew space marine chapter, the paragon knights (loosely based on german knight orders of the medival times).

And i want to design some of my models after my friends. One of which is a refugee girl from syria, which is one of the most faithful muslims i have ever know.

So, to honor my friendship with her and to honor her "zealotry" to God(Emperor) i would like to make a female space marine chaplain named and based on her. I want it to be a model with a head that (vaguely) is like her head, which means i need a female head with hijab or any other form of head scarf.

So, do you guys have any ideas?

>> No.73433630

>>73433602
We could have had Valeria bros...

>> No.73433645

>>73433336
Probably, but I'd gladly get fucked out of my Primarch for a FUCKING NOISE MARINE UPDATE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.73433674

>>73433624
In the off-chance that this isn't a bait post made to trigger people for shits and giggles, I'd reccomend you greenstuff. A lot and lot of green-stuff. I'd also reccomend third-party retailers for plastic mini-head bits as GW have proven time and time again to not be able to sculpt a female face if their life was on the line.

>> No.73433679

>>73433624
>And i want to design some of my models after my friends. One of which is a refugee girl from syria, which is one of the most faithful muslims i have ever know.
>So, to honor my friendship with her and to honor her "zealotry" to God(Emperor) i would like to make a female space marine chaplain named and based on her. I want it to be a model with a head that (vaguely) is like her head, which means i need a female head with hijab or any other form of head scarf.
>So, do you guys have any ideas?
Get a SoB preacher and use that as a Chaplin. Ezpz.

>> No.73433687

>>73433249
Ok, in this regard I feel for ya. Warhams is amazing as a beer and pretzels game between casually competitive regulars.

>> No.73433694

>>73433624
Don't even need to get a female head, can get a generic unhelmeted space marine, make a head covering with greenstuff (roll it out into a thin strip and wait 20 minutes to dry slightly), then just wrap it up. Choose a face with no scarring around the eyes, you can highlight the nose to slim it and make it less masculine while hiding the rest of the face and chin with the head wrap.

>> No.73433708

9th ed can't come soon enough
i hate that the enemy russ parked in my opponents deployments zone can destroy decimate one of my squads because the tank commander can see the antenna's on my marines backbacks through a broken window

>> No.73433718

>>73433391
Is there hope for the same happening for 40k?

>> No.73433730

>>73433624
no

>> No.73433731

>>73433708
Jesus bubba, couldn't shell out 20 buckeroos for a magpul?

>> No.73433735

>>73433624
Use this if you're too lazy to convert a model by itself. Just trim down the hair and do what the other anons said about the head wrapping.

But I think you're doing this as bait. So on the off chance you aren't, here you go.

>> No.73433771

>>73433708
won't the spent casings catch on the rubber band here and be hot enough to burn the band and snap it?

>> No.73433780

>>73433735
>>73433694
>>73433679
>>73433674
I'm proud of you tards, trying to help someone asking a question despite it most likely being posted to trigger the autists frequenting this general.

Keep up the good work and lets try to get som much needed positivity here.

>> No.73433790

>>73433780
I only do it because it makes bait-fags seethe. I genuinely don't care anymore.

>> No.73433819

Just finished another one of the boyz!

>> No.73433847

>>73433790
Apathy is positivity at its finest.

>> No.73433854

I wanna see that new glow technical paint

>> No.73433858

>>73432588
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.73433860

I need a new 40k book to read; I just finished the latest Fabius novel and it was delightful. I've already read the basics and the excellent fehervari shit.

>> No.73433865

Is there anyone who sells cheap painted models? I hate painting but love playing.

>> No.73433874

>>73433819
For future reference please put your mini down on a stable surface so we don't have to see your meaty hand in half the image. Not just you in specific, everyone could learn from this. Also your mini isn't in focus.

>> No.73433885

my WIP PBC

>> No.73433903

>>73433885
Remember to Agrax your rust, nuln your lead and drill your sister.

>> No.73433906

>>73433874
wow fuck you there is nothing wrong with my hand

>> No.73433914

>>73433860
Path of the Dark Eldar books are pretty kino, and way better than than the Fabius books

>> No.73433917

>>73433885

Clean your moldlines and fill your gaps. Also get that crusty pube off of there.

>> No.73433923

>>73433885
>green dg
>smeared in filth
boring

>> No.73433928

>>73433874
T. Small handed virgin.

>> No.73433936 [DELETED] 

>>73432678
good thing i picked this army up for $250 at a bitz bizarre before their codex dropped. stripping/redoing some of this .. kinda hard to match some one else's paint job. i need to learn how to get that force weapon look right.

so 20 paladins and 25 grey knights. all the named characters and 3 baby carriages. i need to find a stl file for the psy cannon for the razorback.

>> No.73433937

>>73433780
I'm hoping for the slim chance that its real, I always enjoy seeing people be creative. Like the anon that showed how to make billboards for terrain out of empty sprues and those fake credit cards from mail offers, that was some good shit.

>> No.73433939

>>73433874

t. handlet

>> No.73433947

>>73433885
While you work on the PBC, you're mom is working on the BBC.

>> No.73433950

>>73433917
> Also get that crusty pube off of there.
Crusty pubes only makes it more authentic Anon.

>> No.73433952

>not happy with my painting of 1 army
>try another today, its meh, realize I hate their vehicles and dread ever painting them

I should take a break from the hobby honestly... I'm just not finding happiness painting anymore, haven't played in years.

>> No.73433955

>>73433819
Take a picture with it against some plain white paper next time so we can get a better look at your details and highlights. Its a bit hard to tell from the picture, did you wash it?

>> No.73433959

What are some good BL books about rogue traders or otherwise non bolter/lasgun non space marine imperium Stuff

>> No.73433960

>>73432678

good thing i picked this army up for $250 at a bitz bizarre before their codex dropped. stripping/redoing some of this .. kinda hard to match some one else's paint job. i need to learn how to get that force weapon look right.

so 20 paladins and 25 grey knights. all the named characters and 3 baby carriages. i need to find a stl file for the psy cannon for the razorback.

>> No.73433968

>>73433937
Billboards for terrain?
Is there a channel for this?
Pictures?

>> No.73433977

>>73433128
Stompa is not a knight equivalent though, gork/morkanauts are.

>> No.73433991

>>73433923

actually the majority of my army is dirty bone, so I decide to do something mainly green as a contract

>> No.73433999

>>73433392
Nah, doesn't take too much effort. Pretty simple to magnetize if you want to swap arms around as well.

>> No.73434000

>>73433854
Just buy paint thats already on the market you fucking sheep.
>people painting with inks and shit for years
>gw sees this
>makes pots of ink mixed with flow improver
>NoooOOOOoo guys its a BRAND NEW TECHNIQUE TRUST ME

>> No.73434007

>>73433885
>>73433991

the side panels and front of the plow will be bone

>> No.73434010

>>73433977
Can we then assume them (Gorka/morka) to have equivalent point-costs, stats or rules to the Knights then?
I ask because the supposedly superheavy is always memed as having worse stats at thrice the cost in comparison.

>> No.73434014

>>73433968
Not on my PC at the moment, hopefully someone else can find the pictures. He essentially used the sprues to make a frame for the billboard then glued a plastic card to it and then glued a printed out image onto the card (think it was a picture of a capital ship).

>> No.73434025

>>73433885
Looks like a big steamy pile of shit.

Good job!

>> No.73434038

>>73433991
>>73434007
Your painting is absolutely fine and better then mine. I just wish other dg players also experimented with color schemes more.

>> No.73434045

>>73434010
And they should be rebalanced to reflect what they're supposed to be, the knight equivalents, but shit like the stompa have no place in a game of 40k outside of apocalypse. Stompa should be reworked too, but with the caveat of having a prohibiting points cost like the titans but a manageable PL since apoc uses PL.

>> No.73434085

>>73434010
Gorks and Morks are alright, comparable to a knight. Gork has more volume of firepower while Mork has harder hitting fewer shot weapons (plus the option to be equipped with a kustom force field). Both can also be used as small transports, not a bad way to protect some units until they get closer. I've had decent luck using telyporta' to bring in a gorkanaut on their flank to draw some fire and take out troops before disembarking the nobz with power klaws to go and retard smash their armor. Not the best tactic but its funny when the rolls go your way.

>> No.73434102

>>73433991
I've always like cream/bone armor since it can compliment so many colors.

>> No.73434104

>>73434010

Nnnot exactly. Morkanauts are 290-310 points (depends on whether or not they take a Kustom Force Field, without which they have no Invuln), Gorkanauts are 311 (and have no invuln). They're T8 3+ but only have 18 wounds.

So they're decidedly worse than Knights, and cheaper as a consequence.

>> No.73434115

>>73434014
Cool.
I love little arts and crafts like this, really ads atmosphere to the gaming table.

>> No.73434123

>>73434038

well for me, I wanted to keep a lot of the per-heresry colors. But I besides some poxwalkers that were green/yellow my whole army was looking very samey. So I wanted to color swap and do majority green with bone compliment, the opposite of the rest of my army.

>> No.73434141

>>73434000
>GW makes contrast paint
>Says to do one thick coat for easy painting!
>Most hobby channels on youtube don't care for contrast in that fashion
>Duncan gets out from under GW's thumb
>Understandable really, considering the allegations
>Makes his own youtube channel
>"Yeah, contrast works best with Two Thin Coats so that the change in color is nice and smooth"

GW doesn't even know how to use their own fucking products.

>> No.73434142

>>73432853
How would you rewrite their rules so mobility and synergy are rewarded? I've been mulling over this but am at a loss. It's not like people didn't hate playing against JSJ.

>> No.73434146

>>73434104
Is there an easy way to break down a unit into expected Damage per Round or Damage per point? Or PpW if we count how much it is supposed to tank?

>> No.73434158

>>73434141
>Understandable really, considering the allegations
What allegations?
What is going on?
Is Duncan ok!? he is literally the only good thing left about GW.

>> No.73434161

>>73434141
What allegations?

>> No.73434172 [DELETED] 

>>73433194
You won't be 'miss.'

>> No.73434185

>>73434172
Where were you when Anon was a miss?
I was at phone
'no'

>> No.73434203

>>73433194
That's not what was said by GW at all. There wasn't a friendly "all are welcome" sign.

It was
>Political Statement
>Disagree? Then get out, you won't be missed

Literally the opposite of what is in that image.

>> No.73434212

>>73434146

Not really but in this particular case (since they're both T8 and 3+) we can break it down to points per wound, but as far as the invulnerable saves you'll have to make your own judgment on how that balances out. KFF Mork and a Gork are about 17 points per wound (and the Mork complicates things by granting his invuln to a 9" bubble around him), a stock Knight Paladin (RFBC, stubbers, reaper chainsword - 419 points) is also about 17 points per wound.

>> No.73434215

>>73434203
>People who agree with out political statement are welcome.
It is almost like GW is practicing the Imperial creed or something.

>> No.73434230

>>73433194
>>73434203
>>73434172

How did we let it get this bad? Exactly at what point society decide that just because you can do anything, ALSO means nothing is bad/wrong?

>> No.73434243

>>73434215
how is it political to say everyone is welcome to play

>> No.73434245

>>73434158
>>73434161
look at his eyes you can see the darkness behind them. im ashamed it took me by surprise.

>> No.73434254

>>73432588
Stupid question.

I played 40k back in 2nd edition, but recently have had the urge to get back into the hobby. Back then mixing and matching different factions was a pain in the ass, and I'm thinking of putting together an imperial army from multiple different chapters. Mainly one main chapter and some of its successors.

Is this easy to do in the new edition(8th, right?). I'm not looking to build a crazy min-maxed army, I just want to do it for the story.

>> No.73434265

>>73434243
Because if you have to say it, your making the assumption that your comunity is so fucked that niggers are turned away on base of just being niggers. Also it makes your message just seem like an attempt at brownie points after EVERY OTHER company puts out a statement that niggers burning down autozone is ok......shit....i mean, after every other company made a message supporting blm cause they want to look good.

>> No.73434269

>>73433249
That's peak. My scene has a few guys who run pretty competitive stuff but are all banter. Like a crowd of hood rats shooting dice, hollering n joking.

>> No.73434271

>>73434230
America is retarded, but this bigoted mindset started years ago. It needed to be stopped in 2006-2008 when it was in its infancy, but it's too late now. For some people it's completely incurable, and they'll either have to be killed, or disarmed/imprisoned/reformed at some point.

I guess just rest assured that normal people don't think like this and like 80-90% of people going along with this shit at this point are doing it out of fear only.

>> No.73434277

>>73434243
That isn't what was said though is it?

See
>>73434203

>> No.73434281

>>73434265
>burning down autozone is ok
It is though
fuck autozone
this post was made by advance auto parts gang

>> No.73434284

>>73434265
Not really.

>> No.73434287

>>73434271
The older I get the more I start thinking along the lines of 'freedom is important, and you should be allowed to do whatever you want. But also dont be a fucking degenerate and having a sense of shame is a good thing.'

>> No.73434291

>>73434254
9th edition is right around the corner, with that the Dark Imperium starter set is going to be rotated out. It's got Sphesh Muhreens and stinky Sphesh Muhreens in it if you're interested in that. Soon we'll also have a Necron vs Sphesh Muhreens boxset (not starter kit). 9th is also supposed to be mainly mono armies from the looks of it right now, so to answer your question, no, putting multiple chapters together will be a pain. 8th edition was perfect for that, though.

>> No.73434304

People really get baited every thread without fail. It's a spectacle.

>> No.73434310

>>73434291
Ok cool, thank you.

Guess I'll go with Mechanicus or the Bolter Bitches then.

>> No.73434330

I feel like I am the only person here who has never played vs marines, my local group has a good amount of armies but literally no one plays their marines, plenty own them even have full painted armies but they never get used

>> No.73434337

>>73434304
Some people just can't resist.

>> No.73434350

>>73434243
>how is it political to say everyone is welcome to play
They literally specified a specific group of people that is in fact not welcome to play, invalidating your claim.

>> No.73434357

>>73434330
I used to never have to play against marines then their codex got updated and I had to play against nothing but marines. Funny how it works with retarded GW designers.

>> No.73434364

>>73434350
won't be missed =/= not welcome to play

>> No.73434369

>>73434304
Some people also like to add grease to the fire, just because its funny.

>> No.73434371

Tts was a mistake
>buy it from steam summer sale
>find out lgs has discord server with active online community
>set up a game today with a random person
>2k casual
>bring nidzilla since I know the faction
>guy shows up without a roster
>oh ok no big deal
>8 leman russes 90 guardsmen, shadowsword and misc HWTs and sentinels
>uh that doesn't seem like 2k
>fumble around with clunky mechanics for 4 hours
>guy barely knows how to play the game
>I'm still winning on VP somehow
>realize how late it is, so concede to go work out
>"oh btw this was my first game, thanks for walking me through"
tldr I sat through about 5 hours of babysitting a new player that didn't even know how army construction worked. Honestly my fault for not specifying but jesus christ why have your first game be at ~2500 points

>> No.73434380

>>73434364
That's a fine assumption you have there.
Did you make it yourself?

>> No.73434387

how to properly play an imperium faction without steppin' on toes/properly acknowledgin' dat da imperium glorifies fascism an' workin' to subvert it? or be it just beyond subversion an' i best just play a non-imperium faction?
hi all, i play 40k on tabletop simlulator, an' mah motha fuckin' main army be adeptus mechanicus as that’s da only faction dat appeals to meh nuff to main it. I'm just wonderin' how i can conduct myself in a bitchin' manner, an' work to subvert da fact dat da imperium glorifies fascism in a medium (tabletop simulator) where i can't necessarily customize mah motha fuckin' army to do dat fo meh unless i learned moddin' fo tabletop simulator. If its not really worthwhile to do so, i will switch to tyrnaids an' not play any imperium faction. I would play aos, which be a much less problematic settin' in mah motha fuckin' opinion (and honestly has more depth), but it doesn't really seem like derr be a sizeable nuff community fo aos on tabletop simulator.

>> No.73434389

>>73434269
that is the stuff i miss. i moved for work and the new LGS fucking sucks so much. at my old store we'd have "fluffy fest" once a month on a saturday for only fuffy lists of 1250 points. Big enough for a good mix of units but not so big you can take all of the units you want to take. Rest of the time it was whatever you wanted to play, but there was a good mix of armies and lists, it was great.

>> No.73434396

>>73434350
If you don't respect other people purely based on looks I don't see how thats a bad thing to tell those people they aren't welcome. If you dont respect someone based on their actions, well thats something different. Ive been in this hobby for a long time and I've really never seen anyone be racist to someone else so I don't think its that big of an issue, but people are hyperfixated on that statement thinking its the end of the world.

>> No.73434401

>>73434380
Interpreting words isn't an assumption, and if it is, then I could ask you the same question

>> No.73434414

I wonder what Ward is up to

>> No.73434419

chaosfags keep screeching how they want shitmarines purely for the 2W stat despite already having possessed which are, as a bonus, a melee unit. so why do chaosfags really want primarinos? more attacks? zerks. resilience? plague marines. useless shits (outside of EC)? noise marines. chad psychic bullshit? rubricks. so what gives? surely there's more to it than "le 2w" meme. not to mention how there's more and more counters for 2w units. perhaps the models? buy chadcasters' conversion kits, bits and make them. FW conversions are still the best shit around. plot twist: 9th comes around and upgrades all marines to 2w and termies to 3w

>> No.73434422

>>73434371
The only difference is you don't have to be near some lardass that's struggling to breathe during his first game in 5 years with space wolves.

>> No.73434438

>>73434401
I'm sorry I have the social intelligence to understand what is being conveyed when someone tells someone else their precense won't be missed. Having to explain this to you I can only imply that you're part of the reason why GW needed to specifically explain that you're losing the game when you concede.

>> No.73434440

>>73434419
It's really weird to me how you frame possessed not having guns as a good thing

>> No.73434446

>>73434419
low iq post. think about what 2w gives to a marine chassis with all the other stats it has. the real reason anyone wants anything is because gw is trash at balancing and just want to power creep so you buy more.

>> No.73434451

>>73434414
Why does that Storm Bolter only have one barrel?

>> No.73434452

>>73434438
Oh, so NOW I'm supposed to assume things? You were just demonizing the concept one post ago.

>> No.73434454

Where do you stand?

>> No.73434457

>>73434142
I'd rewrite warhammer. Your Deployment zone is your entire half of your table. Balance the game around this.

>> No.73434460

>>73434419
I want 2a, 2w, and a better gun on my CSM troops. Hell, just give them all a free chainsword in addition to their bolter and i'd be happy

>> No.73434465

>>73434422
Instead I had to listen to several dogs barking and a vacuum cleaner

>> No.73434468

>>73434454
Blood.

>> No.73434469 [DELETED] 

Why is the 40k community full of such xenophobes and biggots?

>> No.73434474

>>73434369
There's time to fill until we get more info, and this is better than rules arguments. Can't wait until we can get eyes on the new rules, that should keep the thread mostly on track for a few weeks.

>> No.73434477

Now that Psychic Awakening's almost over, what's your thoughts on it overall? For me, it was kinda hit or miss -- it really helped some armies, but others were totally left in the dust, even some that really needed the help. On the bright side it did bring a leg up to a bunch of armies that had sucked for a long time, RIP Necrons.

PA tier list:
>Zero to Hero tier:
GK
>Rich get Richer tier
Marines, Tau, Guard
>Appreciated help tier
Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Imperial Knights, Chaos Knights, Orks, Harlequins, Custodes, Death Guard, Thousand Sons, CSM, AdMech
>Kind of a letdown tier
Tyranids, Deathwatch, Craftworlds, Dark Angels, Black Templars
>Why even bother tier
GSC, Dark Eldar, Ynnari
>What about us tier
Necrons, SoB
>Not a real army but thanks I guess tier
Sisters of Silence, Inquisition, Assassins

>> No.73434480

>>73434396
That's grossly reductive to the point of it being a strawman. Good job.

>> No.73434481

>>73434357
All I read is people complaining about marine bullshit, worst we had was a new guy who did 3 riptides and 40 drones and we slagged him off so much he never did it again

>> No.73434484

>>73434460
Unless necrons get similar stuff in their new codex I wouldn't hope for much at all.

>> No.73434490

>>73434469
>playing 40k and being trans

did you really have to take your politics to autistic spess marines simulator?

>> No.73434500

>>73434387
Stop

>> No.73434505

>>73434419
Possessed are not troops
Possessed have no variable loadouts
Possessed have no ranged weaponry
Possessed are weak to anti-daemon stuff
Possessed have an ugly kit

>> No.73434508

>>73434469
>why is a community who's source material is one of the most xenophobic universes in existence xenophobic.


Well i dont fuckin know, now go and 52% yourself

>> No.73434510

>>73434477
I forgot GSC even got updated and I own the Greater Good book. It's so laughable.

>> No.73434519

>>73434245
the worst part is that some of remains are still unidentified

>> No.73434527

>>73434480
Its how I interpreted it. If you interpreted it differently and let it make you angry all the time I can't really do anything about that. Hope you find solace in something.

>> No.73434532

>>73434469
Why should any environment or milieu tolerate the mentally ill masquerading as them?

>> No.73434534

>>73434508
you're misusing the word "xenophobic"
also this is a really stupid post, one for replying to bait, and two for thinking that liking 40k actually means you must be hateful

>> No.73434543

>>73434452
I'd tell you to fuck off, but I'm not certain you'd understand what that means.
As long as you have fun, that's ok I suppose.

>> No.73434558

>>73434481
So you never got to see all those dreads with sang guard wings that suddenly became untargettable chaplains, deep striking centurions in every game and thunderfire spam? Cute of you to bring up Tau that are mainly still in the meta because of being a marine counter though.

>> No.73434560

>>73433960
never realized grey knights are wearing picnic blanket camo until now. seriously though any other surface would work better for that pict.

>> No.73434577

>>73434527
if you interpret my statement as anger, then I have good grounds for doubting your interpretation abilities.
You might not be smart, but at least you keep this general alive with your traffic.

>> No.73434585

Salamander's Batallion
Culexus Assassin
Hector Rex
Radical Warlord Trait
Castigation
Mental Interrogation
Captain on Bike
Hammer+Shield
Imperium's Sword
Forge Master
Salamander's Mantle
Chaplain Venerable Dreadnought
Twin Lascannon
Fist
Mantra Of Strength
2x4 knife scouts with heavy bolter
1x5 knife scouts
1x3 Landspeeder with 6 heavy flamers
Thunderfire cannon

>> No.73434595

>>73434585
it's shit

>> No.73434598

>>73432653
Make Brothers of battle with SCE models, the power armour would fit the aesthetic and they're bigger because wimmin are smol and weak

>> No.73434599

>>73434585
Thank you anon, very cool

>> No.73434601

>>73434585
Rate my list. Also it didnt format how i wanted it to.
>>73434595
Any suggestions?

>> No.73434618

>>73434577
I guess it could be disappointment or just being upset in general, but given the volume of people saying stuff in that line it seems a lot more like anger. I have pretty good ground myself for seeing you as someone that lets the smallest of things bother you. I'd definitely get that checked out, doesn't seem too normal to me.

>> No.73434626

>>73434038
I did this

>> No.73434633

>>73434474
> keep the thread mostly on track for a few weeks.
I love and envy your enthusiasm in equal measure.
I myself hope necrons get to keep their 8th edition reanimation protocol rules because of its inherent fluffiness, with the caveat that they get a stratagem to leave a marker when a unit has been wholly removed which could be used to enable their Reanimation Protocols under certain conditions.
Having to play without the entire faction identity because the enemy brought good units is just bad internal balancing and it shows.

>> No.73434635

>>73434558
I am aware what meta lists have been/are and he got slated to fuck cus everyone knows that's a shitty way to play the game

>> No.73434640

>>73434477
Seems about right, but Inquisitors got easily put in zero to hero tier. I didn't like how almost every book was "70% imperium and 30% everything else" template even in xeno/chaos centered books.

>> No.73434646

>>73434577
>>73434618

Jesus fucking christ shut up holy shit. Go fucking argue in a discord chat you secondaries. Fucking hell

>> No.73434656

>>73434646
>>73434646
Samefag

>> No.73434667

>>73434635
I wish it was this easy for most autists in this hobby to take a hint and not act like cunts.

>> No.73434673

>>73434635
>When playing a decent army is a shitty way to play the game

What are you? A faggot?

>> No.73434680

>>73434558
A blood angels chaplain dreadnought with mantra of strength and artisan of war is statistically guaranteed to kill a knight castellan in a single fight phase, even without stratagems
A death company squad with jump packs and thunder hammers can put out a maximum of 550 damage in a single phase after charging

>> No.73434703

>>73434618
I on the other hand could write a point-for-point on why it is bad to commit logical fallacies when stating your point, from claiming a supposed statement that was never said to simply making up an enemy you can easily defeat in an argument.
But the reality of the situation is that you're not worth the effort I take to point it out, so in the end I guess you win at trolling. Good job, you sure showed me by wasting my time.

>> No.73434712

>>73434656
Are you ok buddy?

>> No.73434726

>>73433854
Me too. Hoping they have a pink one.

>> No.73434728

>>73434680
Yea and mephiston can have like 50 attacks nearly auto hitting with multiple damage too. There's a reason why people with common sense say marines are over the top.

>> No.73434738

>>73434656
Uh, bub.

>>73434646
Secondaries shouldn't post, so do us a favour and delete yours.

>> No.73434757

>>73434633
They said that necrons will have several new mechanics to make RP more consistent. One of them is one of those new walkers the reanimator something or other. My guess is that it will either buff the chance for RP or will auto RP a d3 of a unit within its aura every turn.

>> No.73434779

>>73434680
That's enough to take out 7 warlord Titans in a single phase
If that happened, for each point you put into that squad, you'd make it back seventy-seven times in a single phase, before modifiers
That's a 540 point unit wiping out 42,000 points in a single phase, and it's entirely possible. Yes, some Marine units are OP

>> No.73434780

>>73434757
Which is pretty annoying as that wasn't the problem with RP.

>> No.73434795 [DELETED] 

What do you think of my tau? i tried to use a custom chapter scheme. My tau are based on the current japanese defense force :3

>> No.73434817

>>73434757
While it sounds nice albeit generic, the problem of RP was never that you didn't get enough models back. The problem has been the fact that your enemies gun down entire units at a time, something that removes RP from the equation in its entirety.
Something made doubly aweful considering you're actually paying for the RP ability as a unit-tax in terms of points per unit.

Unless you get something that works after a unit has been removed or The Silent King forbid you can reanimate them proactively before they die, the problem remains.

IG says Hi.
Necrons says Bye.
Not a single RP roll was ever made.

>> No.73434820

>>73434000
Cry of the poorfag.

>> No.73434821

>>73433708
My group just agreed not to do shit like that. The only person who ever tries is our Tau player and he has literally quit two games because he thought he could see a unit when the rest of us said he could not.

>> No.73434822

>>73434757
they showed the reanimator's rule. It picks 1 unit within 9" and gives that unit +1 to its reanimation roll

>> No.73434828

>>73434795
You accidentally posted a picture of yourself, anon

>> No.73434843

>>73434795
I'm sorry, but you seem to have posted a ratling wearing T'au clothing, did you post the wrong picture?

>> No.73434854

>>73434469
Because you won't be missed.

>> No.73434865

>>73434822
That was the scarab's Stratagem, was it not?
But as previous anon has stated, reanimating models on a 1+ doesn't really help when the enemy just kills all the models in the unit each phase.

>> No.73434873

>>73434843
Dont insult rattlings like that

>> No.73434875

anybody got that GK on life support but awoken image?

>> No.73434909

>>73434795
in before:

Tits or GTFO

but considering the changing times.

Dick or GTFO

>> No.73434910

>>73434873
In all fairness, Rattlings deserve to be bullied.

>> No.73434951

>>73433771
Yes, but this is true redneck engineering. It will work until it doesn't. Might be one round, might get the whole clip, but it's be worth watching.

>> No.73434954

>>73433819
Did you just have a massive allergic reaction?

>> No.73434958

>>73434477
>deamons
>why even bother
>relics and extra cp to spend to help out greater deamons
>some help for other deamons

i guess i have only myself to blame for expecting something more when the grey knights got a major boost. to be fair to necrons they're getting a new book.

>> No.73434969

Anything special i have to do to prepare a metal mini to be primed?
Does it need to be washed and primed like resin?

>> No.73434972

>>73434477
Youre forgetting harlequins. They went from zero to hero

>> No.73434982

>>73432605
I played Tau before overwatch, I have no idea why that was made our thing in 6th. I would trade FTGG and Protocols for Jetpack back, if you don’t want castles then let’s encourage some fuckin’ mobility please. Slow them down or split the moves down the middle if used if you’re worried about terrain humpers.
Anything to give me back the old dance, the old chase me/chase you/hunter/hunted dance Tau did before becoming robots and bulletcatchers and the five man squads who stand in front of them. You couldn’t even have five in a squad then, and if someone caught them out of step the price was death. I really liked that high-risk/high-reward combined arms vibe and it’s gone.

>> No.73434984

>>73434865
Would be cool if Monoliths allowed you to roll for reanimation protocols after a unit got destroyed. Maybe as a one time thing.

>> No.73435009

>>73434982
Is that what we're doing today? Talking about how good 40k used to be back in the earlier editions?

>> No.73435012

>>73434969
>washed and primed
*washed and scrubbed holy shit.

>> No.73435013

>>73434984
That's what they used to do and also let you pull a unit out of combat.

>> No.73435030

how badly will they fuck up the eventual series?
i bet there wont even be a single Gregorian chant, not even dies ire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr90NLDp-0&t=191s

>> No.73435038

>>73434984
It would be nifty to have a few "once per unit" or "once per game" stratagems akin to that yeah.
Could make the Monolith an actual unit too if it could bring back uninstalled squads.
A shame the Monolith has historically been Gorka//morkanaut tier.

>> No.73435039

>>73434972
wait harlequins benefited from PA?

>> No.73435051

>>73434821
my friend isn't a WAAC but our meta is full of WAAC's which means most people have an extreme adherence to RAW

>> No.73435064

>>73434969
>>73435012
washing it isn't really needed but it couldn't hurt if the model has been gathering dust
priming is a necessity. paint loves to not stick to metal models

>> No.73435069

>>73435039
Yeah goonhammer has an article about it. They are legitimately insane

>> No.73435084

Gonna make my own wraith focused craft world when im done painting all my ork stuff. Whats the least faggy/snowflake way to make your dudes.

>> No.73435087

>>73435069
>Harlequins
>Legitimately insane
Stop, stop Anon, you're killing me with your brilliant deductions.

>> No.73435090

>>73435038
Going back to the original WWB would be so much better than the current system. Allows you to actually use RP without it being overbearing for the opponent to deal with.

>> No.73435092

>>73435064
Should i prime it. Let it dry. Then prime it a second time for the best effect?
I kinda want this model and like the weight of metal minis so i want this guy to look good

>> No.73435110

space marine about terrain humpers
>why even bother
A blood angels chaplain dreadnought with mantra of strength
Possessed have an ugly kit marine bullshit

>> No.73435115

>>73435051
Good.

>> No.73435127

>>73434454
Tier 4 here

>> No.73435134

>>73434738
>>73434712
Samefag

>> No.73435139

>>73435087
Why dont you read the new rules fagbaron

>> No.73435141

>>73435092
it depends on how it looks after the first run but a second priming might be a good move. Just make sure you're at a good distance on the second run to avoid clogging finer detail

>> No.73435151

>>73435051
unfortunate my dude.
40k should be a gentleman's game not
If me and my opponent agree on LOS we go with it but we never let some tiny exposed bit shoot at another. Its fucking gay

>> No.73435156

>>73434795
Really quite uncanny.

>> No.73435162

NECRONS NUMERO UNO!

>> No.73435166

>>73435141
Gotcha. Thank you for the help

>> No.73435189

>>73435090
Yeah, WWB was unironically amazing to play with, but with models getting bigger and bigger with points-cost getting smaller allowing for fielding more models, I can see it being an issue.

I feel like a good compromise would be 6th's version, where you could drop a marker when specific units go killed off, and could reanimate using that marker by treating it as a "living" necron of the same unit so it could reanimate back to it.

>> No.73435192

Painted some yellow today after not having painted it for maybe fifteen years and actually really enjoyed it. Tried it the Darren Latham way. Going to try airbrushing a test model now that I'm home to see if that way is the way I want to go or if I want to stick to doing it majority paintbrushing.

Guess I'm starting Imperial Fists.

>> No.73435199

fuck jannies! Post orks!

>> No.73435203

>>73435139
Why don't you understand simple jokes you incompetent clown.

>> No.73435210

>>73435192
>2020
>Posting maymays

>> No.73435218

i wonder if gws will do something cool for 9th edition starters like:

>pick two start collecting sets and terrain options
>receive massive discounts on relevant art supplies and associated rules & supplements
>$150 (or equivalent bongbux) out-the-door

>> No.73435221

>>73432799
Iron Warriors canonically come from Merica.

>> No.73435235

>>73435009
It’s a playstyle shift, I went to DE because they had what I was looking for. Why, are you the 4chan conversation police? You put in an app?

>> No.73435239

>>73435221
Because they're fucking retarded and are obsessed with walls while being shit at building them?

>> No.73435242

>>73435218
>discounts
Sorry best I can do is this amazing bundle of this 15$ pack and that 20$ pack for 35$. No need to thank me, You're just that important to me as a customer.

>> No.73435245

So... pic related is literally useless now, right?

>> No.73435246

>>73435218
>massive discounts
lol

>> No.73435247

>>73432832
Criticizes "clone" but praises a clone. Anon is a man of complexity.

>> No.73435251

>>73435134
lol

>> No.73435253

>>73435235
Is that what asking questions is considered? Policing? Why are you policing me you blackfaced clown?

>> No.73435262

>>73435245
In 9th they get +1 to hit from that

>> No.73435273

>>73435245
>You don't get -1 modifier for shooting.
>Useless
The absolute state of Taufags I swear.

Not everyone imposes an automatic -1 Hit modifier on you, you blue frog.

>> No.73435281

>>73435245
oh look more retards trying to guess what the new rules will be like while looking at old rules

>> No.73435283

>>73435245
Are you retarded?

>> No.73435285

>>73435218

>>73435245
wait, aren't most tau weapons assault anyway?

>> No.73435302

>>73435210
I'm going to post my fist in your ass.

>> No.73435303

>>73435273
Only Infantry suffer heavy weapon penalty now, retard.

>> No.73435310

>>73435273
The hit modifier is only for infantry in 9th.

>> No.73435316

>>73433456
>>73433466
Not that anon, but a properly kitted out stompa can be monstrous when it comes to shooting. A custom stompa can have a Deffcannon, a Supa-gatler (which can be fired thrice if you’re proper Orky), a Lifta-Droppa, a gaze of Mork, a Belly Gun, a twin big shoota, three big shootas, five supa-rokkits, four grot sponsons, and a skorcha. All of which benefits from Dakka Dakka Dakka, and whatever kulture you run, and the new relic gatler which doubles the damage.
All of that without considering any of the special rules or army buffs

>> No.73435317

>>73435273

>> No.73435319

>>73435283
Explain.

>> No.73435323

Is it ever explicitly stated how much the different companies of the Unforgiven actually know about the Fallen? I know Azrael knows the "whole story" i.e. that the Fallen are Heresy-era traitor marines from the 1st spread across time and space, and that the Lion is somewhere within the Rock. But does that mean the Ezekiel or Lazarus (or Balthazar) don't know the whole picture? What do Belial or Sammael think the Fallen are? What about Grandmasters from other chapters of the Legion? I know the Ravenwing know that the Fallen are heretics with a (non-descript) special meaning to the Dark Angels. Do the Interrogator-Chaplains even know what kind of repentance they're trying to extract? Does the average Deathwing Terminator know what the Fallen really are or do they just think they're renegade Angels from the current era?

>> No.73435334

>>73435317
That reaction image is way too good to be wasted on me, but I thank you regardless.
I had a genuine chuckle, so thank you.

>> No.73435343

>>73435262
>+1 to hit with heavy weapons
Not even Phil Kelly would let that through.

>> No.73435344

>>73435323
Deathwing knows, the interrogator chaplains know, chaplains don't know, ravenwing knows they're hunting traitor dark angels

>> No.73435366

>>73435344
And the entire Inner Circle knows about the Lion? or is that just the collected Grandmasters of the Legion?

>> No.73435375

Which PA book has the Harlequin rules?

>> No.73435395

>>73435375
I think it’s a White Dwarf. I could be wrong.

>> No.73435421

I wonder if that anon ever got a boyfriend

>> No.73435437

>>73435366
only Azrael knows the lion is on the rock, nobody knows where on the rock though, only grandmasters know he's alive but not that he's asleep

>> No.73435439

>>73435421
Which one, there are up to 93 homosexuals in any given thread.

>> No.73435467

>>73435437
Righto.

>> No.73435473

>>73435439
you free tonight?

>> No.73435474

>>73432964
I have two of those and I love them. Absolutely murdered custodes, Magnus, and knights. paired with a discolord and the iron warriors trait for exploding sixes they wreck house

>> No.73435481

>>73435473
I live in the united states of McDonalds, I'm free every god damn night of the year.

>> No.73435493

>>73435481
sorry but it's illegal to be gay in mcdonalds land

>> No.73435497

>>73435481
get zapped

>> No.73435507

>>73435493
I thought it was illegal to be straight there now

>> No.73435521

>>73435507
nobody knows, just assume you're wrong about something at any given moment.

>> No.73435526

>>73435245
Vehicles and Monsters don't have -1 to hit for heavy weapons.

Battlesuits are neither.

>> No.73435529

>>73435507
>>73435493
I think at this point in time, it is illegal to simly be.

>> No.73435546

Anyone else find it difficult to choose between the power sword, mace and axe?

>> No.73435549

>>73435529
unless you're a hetero sexual racist cop, then you get to commit warcrimes against free people with no repercussions

>> No.73435550

>>73435529
I thought the virus was over at about April or March like the politicians ordered the virus to be.

>> No.73435560

>>73435546
>Power Knife
>Power pepper-spray
>Power Deodorant.
GeeDubbs what a hard choice to make.

>> No.73435564

>>73435546
no it's pretty simple

>> No.73435570

>>73435526
No, only Infantry suffer the penalty for heavy in 9th. If it doesn’t have the Infantry keyword, then it can move and shoot heavy.

>> No.73435576

>>73435546
Choose the one you think looks the best. Fashion is a top priority.

>> No.73435581

>>73435546
most of the time, you want the axe

>> No.73435587

>>73435030
I wish marines fought more stuff like this. I'm tired of the storiea being 99% the same shite.

>> No.73435592

>>73435546
when in doubt or if you like options, magnetize

>> No.73435609

>>73435546
At first, then I figured out/read that axe is best for t4, mace is best for t3 and sword is for replacing it with relic versions.

>> No.73435621

>>73435576
Thats the thing.
I really like the mace but like the other ones they all just kinda suck and if i want something that doesn't suck i take the power fist but it's not as cool as the sword, mace or axe

>> No.73435638

>>73435247
Just because its an isometric turn based strategy game does not make it an xcom clone.


Especially since tactical level RNG, which is core the XCOM experience, doesnt exist

>> No.73435650

The angriest man in the galaxy

>> No.73435653

I'm a bit late to this but what's the likelihood this will be a problem?

>> No.73435658

>>73434779
I've crunched the numbers, and as a statistical AVERAGE, a 15 squad of Thunder Hammer Death Company will shave 48 wounds off a Warlord Titan in a single phase, with a possible total of 550 damage, before modifiers

Is this the most broken melee unit in the game?

>> No.73435668

>>73435653
Middling to low. Once per phase and only for one set of attacks

>> No.73435694

>>73435653
Thats like 1000pts, it seems like a good plan but its so expensive its not that impactful, it might be better used to bodyguard 3 Leman Russ commanders.

>> No.73435697

>>73435658
The damage is crazy, but the defenses don't scale with it.

>> No.73435700

>>73435653
Considering that you have to pay over half your command points to even field this combo, low. The stratagem is going to be very annoying though because of auto include inquisitors and other bullshit.

>> No.73435704

>>73435621
Decide if the guy using it really needs the better weapon in gameplay. If it’s insignificant, make them look cool. If it makes a significant difference to your strategies or whatever, equip the other instead.

>> No.73435707

>>73435650
I'd like to see an angry contest between Khârn and Gabriel Seth

>> No.73435709

>>73435621
Does your chapter favour maces, axes, or swords as a cultural depiction? For example, my homebrew is a DA successor, so they love the winged sword iconogoraphy. A Salamanders or Salamanders successor would favour the Thunder Hammer. Spears of the Emperor? You get the idea.

>> No.73435715

>>73435658
As a single unit, it might be. BA and SW (purely because new ragnar) are going to be hottest FOTM shit in 9th 100%.

>> No.73435723

>>73435638
Mechanicus did so many things right which Xcom didn't. Automatic hits if within range was one of them. Xcom's rubber-band RNG was an atrocity with their weighted success/failure rolls. HUDs straight up lying to the player is not a good place to be.

>> No.73435726

>>73435697
With a buffer unit, you can get them up to 3+/5+/5+ autopass morale, as well as an apothecary and ancient

>> No.73435738

>>73435726
It's still not that impressive for the price.

>> No.73435739

>>73435668
Yeah that's fair, though in most cases if you can completely negate one of your opponent's more powerful units a turn, it's probably a decent tradeoff

>>73435694
You can still fit a brigade of guard in that other 1000 points and then some, basically trading the blood angels smash captain detachment for custodes

>>73435700
Yeah the cp costs for soup things may be a problem but you can farm a couple of cp a turn so it's not dire. You also wouldn't need to spend 3 cp on rotate ion shields

>> No.73435740

>>73435653
Yeah nah, that's barely going to be a problem, anyone that thinks it's OP is just a retard.

>> No.73435752

>>73435546
Do whatever looks coolest. Damn the rules.

>> No.73435791

Is a 6+ an auto pass for everything now or just to hit?
Need to know if making somethings armor save 7+ is still possible

>> No.73435800

Planning to start an AdMech army soon, I love the look of Sicarian Infiltrators/Ruststalkers, but I don't hear many good things about them. Are they that mediocre?

>> No.73435814

How does anon make his guys look fashionable?

>> No.73435820

>>73435800
Infiltrators can be used to deliver a budget version of Wrath of Mars since they fire a lot of shots. Ruststalkers are just shit.

>> No.73435834

>>73435814
Skulls.
Bitches love skulls

>> No.73435839

>>73435814
Lots of spikes and skulls. It's all the rage in m42.

>> No.73435849

>>73435814
My boyz need to earn their decoration in combat. If one has a good game they get some gubbins.

>> No.73435851

Was expecting a more powered up data sheet for Stern. It doesn't seem to live up to her level in the lore.

>> No.73435852

>>73434820
Nah, tired of the retards in the hobby who don't learn the actual art and just wanna play paint by numbers.

>> No.73435853

>>73433391
May?

Games workshop has made more money off the Total War games than they have off the ENTIRETY of Age of Sigmar TT sales, including books.

>> No.73435870

I want more non-furry Ice Guns.

>> No.73435871

>>73435853
Source?

>> No.73435880

>>73435851
Well yeah, but if her stats matched her lore she'd be mephiston-tier at MINIMUM, and would probably be stronger than TT guilliman.

>> No.73435883

>>73435853
>Games workshop has made more money off the Total War games than they have off the ENTIRETY of Age of Sigmar TT sales
What. Do they get royalties that big? How does CA make any money with that?

>> No.73435886

>>73435800
Not at all, ruststalkers are outshined by fulgurites on the table but are cheaper and look much cooler. Infiltrators are the only deep strikers in the army and, depending on loadout, either deliver an ungodly number of hits or tear through MEQs

>> No.73435889

>>73435871
The GW 2019 investor report.

>> No.73435917

>>73435752
This.
rule of cool baby

>> No.73435925

>>73435889
Wow. Holy shit.

>> No.73435937

>>73435870
I want non-furries to get Grav Weapons more often, it's one of the only unique weapons for SM and there's like nothing that uses them ffs.

>> No.73435938

Damn, if only there was a 40k game as successful as the Total War games. I fucking hate fantasy. I really want that crossover to happen and for fantasyfags to get raped by fucking rubric marines and necrons.

>> No.73435942

>>73435925
Keep in mind that AoS barely sold anything for the first four years it existed.

>> No.73435950

>>73435942
When did it actually start, btw?

>> No.73435966

>>73435950
2014

>> No.73435975

>>73435942
I guess this explains why a lot of AoS stuff is direct order.

>> No.73435981

>>73433432
>Some absolute fuck-o ordered 20 Lord Greasious from the Ogre Kingdom range.
>20 Legendary lords. For an army that no longer exists. Just to support GW's greasy spending habits.
Wat

>> No.73435990

>>73435886
>>73435820
I see. Something that intrigued me was putting a unit of Infiltrators or Ruststalkers in the new flyer transport and dropping them into the fray, since that'd let them get closer than deepstriking, correct?

>> No.73435993

Goodnight

>> No.73436007

>>73435942
To be fair, gw really only started selling a lot with 8th ed 40k so that 2018 date makes a lot of sense.

>> No.73436021

>tfw no autogun option to make my guardsmen only cost 3 points

>> No.73436024

>>73435889
Do they even break down how much is made by the different tabletop games?

>> No.73436027

>>73435993
Night bud. I hope you dream of your favorite army getting good rules and models in 9th.

>> No.73436037

>>73436021
How do you figure that?

>> No.73436046

>>73435990
The issue is that the flyers only have a transport capacity of 5, so whatever you’re dropping in with them isn’t exactly going to punch hard.

>> No.73436059

>>73436037
autoguns are worse than lasguns

>> No.73436071

>>73435791
It's also for armor saves.
Armor save modifiers are also going to be capped at -1/+1

>> No.73436083

>>73435870
In hindsight, is that an ice gun? The description’s ambiguous. On one hand it says
>Its liquid ammo, which doubles as its coolant
So the ammo is a hyper-futuristic self-cooling thing but the damage it does is electric. I guess the latter is just a gameplay thing.

>> No.73436086

>>73436071
Thats pretty stupid but i knew it was going to happen

>> No.73436097

>>73436021
>>73436059
The weapons have identical stat line in 8th and 9th edition.

>> No.73436107

>>73436071
>Armor save modifiers are also going to be capped at -1/+1
What.

>> No.73436112

>>73436059
Make them higher caliber to make up the difference.

>> No.73436113

>>73436097
gay

>> No.73436121

>>73436113
queer grog

>> No.73436127

>>73436113
Dark angels

>> No.73436135

>>73436107
Pretty much all modifiers are being capped at either +1 or -1. They haven't explicitly stated that saves will work the same way, but it stands to reason.

>> No.73436146

>>73435990
You’re correct, but it’s generally not worth the points to put a deep striking unit into a transport. Something that I don’t see anyone talking about all too often is throwing a squad of ruststalkers into a transport (drill or boat) alongside a unit of vanguard. The vanguard won’t do much in melee on their own, but their -1 toughness aura lets ruststalkers wound GEQs on twos and MEQs on threes

>> No.73436165

>>73436059
True, but that unfortunately doesn’t translate to the tabletop

>> No.73436177

Will we ever get a super powered slingshot gun?

>> No.73436179

>>73436135
There is no fucking way that is going to be a thing, what the fuck is the point of using a lascannon on a tank versus anything else?

>> No.73436183

>>73436135
So as it stands a t shirt can save someone for an anti titan weapon?

>> No.73436186

>>73434958
Oh yeah, I forgot about them. Which should tell you something about how much help they got.

>> No.73436190

What is Alpha Legion?

>> No.73436200

>>73436059
Not in a way that can be meaningfully communicated with a D6 tho.

>> No.73436222

>>73436146
Also, new cogbro, if you want a transport for your melee units the forgeworld Drill is the way to go. It can hold 12 infantry, deep strikes, can have some nasty firepower, is big enough to block LoS on your infantry, and can seriously injure a knight in the fight phase

>> No.73436224

>>73436135
no

>> No.73436225

>>73436135
I'm pretty sure they means armour BUFFS and DEBUFFS. Not AP values.

>> No.73436231

>>73436097
lasguns benefit from orders autoguns don't.

>> No.73436234

>>73436183
I think the modifier refers to things like cover and possible aura abilities, not AP. If it refers to AP then 9th is doomed

>> No.73436244

>>73436190
This is how I Alpharius/Omegon.

>> No.73436248

>>73436222
As another cogbro, the Dunerider is also a good choice if you want something cheap, but just need to ferry something up the board. They also now have a 0CP stratagem to safely disembark everyone if the transport goes down too!

>> No.73436253

>>73436222
I really like the image of dropping my dudes in from the sky, but I'll keep that in mind. Might look into the Pteraxii for my airborne urges. But that $131 pricetag, whoof.

>> No.73436261

>>73436234
It'd be a stretch to genuinely believe they'd do that.

>> No.73436265

>>73435375
The white dwarf that literally just came out today. It was spoiled weeks (months?) ago, however.

>> No.73436266

>>73436234
I was about to say.
There is no way they are gonna fuck ap that much. I'm still hoping we can push armor saves past 6+ to easily remove hordes

>> No.73436270

>>73436179
Ease. Lascannons have been able to wound tanks since 8th started. I don't know why you find this surprising. It's just the next logical step. 6s always hit, 6s always wound, and it's likely to be that 6s always save. And as far as we know, ALL MODIFIERS are capped at +1 or -1.

The days of buffing units into the sky or debugging them into the ground are over. That's why people are questioning how usable current codices are going to be, since many, if not all armies will need massive rules rewrites just to be playable. Anybody that doesn't play Space Marines is in for dark times ahead.

>> No.73436276

>>73436200
less range?

>> No.73436279

Just made and tried out a wet palette for the first time

How the fuck did I ever paint without one?

>> No.73436284

>>73435560
I want the power whip.

>> No.73436285

>>73436135
Shut the fuck up you fuckwad. In not one single article have they mentioned capping armor saves and for good reason.

People were abusing the negative/positive modifiers you could slap onto a unit to make untargetable balls of hate or buffed squads hitting you 100% of the time 180% for inperial fists.

You fucking retard.

>> No.73436290

>>73436270
*Lasguns. Not Lascannons

>> No.73436299

how should I base this turd?

>> No.73436302

>>73436186
i'm disappointed but i understand. i feel like deamons are a rare army, i know a tournament player that runs deamons and i run into him every few months.

on the positive side there's a huge benefit playing against someone that has no idea what your army does.

>> No.73436305

>>73436285
Here's even the modifier tid bit.

>> No.73436309

>>73436284
New special EC weapon

>> No.73436310

>>73436285
Why wouldn't they make 6s always save?

>> No.73436314

>>73436253
Just get the drill recasted and paint it up. Provided it isn’t warped beyond all measure and you clean it up a bit, it’s impossible to tell the difference with paint on.

>> No.73436319

>>73436270
Nah you're a fuckin retard buddy.

>> No.73436335

>>73436305
>all cumulative modifers to a hit roll

holy fuck. lasguns are the new anti-tank meta....

>> No.73436338

>>73436319
Why? How do you disagree?

>> No.73436339

>>73436299
I really like the look of dark armor on top of white snow, but also if you base death guard without little puddles of nurgle's rot you're doing it wrong. Maybe the classic nurgle base (muddy texture paint with little pools of nurgle's rot) with snow on top?

>> No.73436342

>>73436284
Here you go anon, now you can have a BDSM session with your half naked squad mates. Whip em hard, the Emperor demands it.

>> No.73436355

>>73436299
Something that would separate the brown turd from the base. I use desert basing for my dg for this reason

>> No.73436362

Has anyone here tried running a supreme command detachment of Janus Draik, Elucia Vhane, and Neyam Shai Murad? Their keywords allow for it and each one’s pretty damn good as a character killer. Hell you could even include an inquisitor into the detachment for extra funnsies

>> No.73436369

>>73436279
It makes such a difference when you want to blend your own highlight colors. Everything stays nice an usable for the whole session.

>> No.73436371

>>73436338
See
>>73436305

>> No.73436405

>>73436371
I don't see how that disagrees with what I said.

I said that modifiers are capped at either +1 or -1.

>> No.73436407

>>73436310
Cause they're attempting to balance the meta by eliminating death stars, taking power away from hoardes, and making vehicles viable again.

Saves that always pass irregardless of modifiers are what we currently know as invuls.

If a hoard can soak up anything on a 6 irregardless of modifiers you've just given them a buff. Doesn't matter if they buffed blast weapons if there's guaranteed saved models for hoardes. They already win out in the morale phase over small squads since you take 2 different tests at half or less.

>> No.73436417

>>73436279
Actually same. I ended up picking up the army painter one but I'm afraid I'm going to blow through all the stuff for it so I'm just using it to glaze.

>> No.73436428

how would you feel about your buddy wanting one of his random rank-and-file imperial guardsman have a +2 invulnerable save?

>> No.73436434

>>73436405
not all modfiers you fucking retard. Just for hits.

>> No.73436452

>>73436299
black base goes with everything

>> No.73436453

>>73436369
No kidding. I don't have to worry about re-blending colors every few minutes when I get to edge highlighting, and beyond that it's just great utility to not have to worry about colors drying, and making it easier to thin everything

>> No.73436455

>>73436434
Are you sure? Why don't you check and see?

>> No.73436458

>>73436266
>I'm still hoping we can push armor saves past 6+ to easily remove hordes
All rolls that land on 6 automatically succeed regardless of anyhting else. The inverse is true for 1. Bloodthirsters save is 7+ rn but they'll still win at 6 even out of cover.
WElcome to 9e, where 30% of the time all model's stats are irrelevant.

>> No.73436462

>>73436428
insert some fluff about him being a perpetual born shortly after the 1st crusade

>> No.73436465

>>73436455
how bout you fucking READ THE PASSAGE YOU DUMB NIGGER

>> No.73436468

>>73436428
Like buffing them to 2+
I can see a special squad of guardsmen with 4+ but not even most tanks get 2+

>> No.73436480

>>73436417
Here's a cool tip - literally just use parchment paper instead of the sheets that they give you. It really does work just as well and it's so much cheaper

>> No.73436481

>>73436135
No, that's fucking retarded. It would invalidate any AP beyond -1. They've only confirmed hit mods, not any other sort of modifier.

>> No.73436482

>>73436468
Yes. Literally just a single random dude that just happens to have a fat invuln save.

>> No.73436485

>>73436407
That is a good point, and I would be inclined to agree with you, if they didn't just need Overwatch into the ground for every army in the game except for the one army that needed it nerfed.

I want to agree with you, and believe that that is there plan, but at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they made it so that 6s always save, just for shits and giggles.

>> No.73436491

>>73436310
because it'd make 6++s pointless, for starters

>> No.73436496

>>73436465
Which? Can you find it for me?

>> No.73436498

>>73436458
That is dumb i hate it and i hope it's the first thing to get changed

>> No.73436505

>>73436339
I kind of had a similar thought but use that gray texture paint citadel makes, astrogranite I think with little puddles of rot.

>> No.73436521

>>73436498
It's not even a thing. It's stupid to get mad at a hypothetical an anon made up based on a slippery slope conjecture.

>> No.73436536

>>73436480
Sweet thanks. Guess I'll grab some parchment paper

>> No.73436558

>>73436521
ALL modifiers. That description is extremely specific, anon.

With the new system, AP wouldn't need to go higher than -1 anyway. It's only to benefit rolls on 2's through 5's.

>> No.73436559

>>73434477
PA broke admech. Arguably the best army in the game

>> No.73436569

If I put Daemons in reinforcement to be summoned, do I have to make room for them in a CSM detachment? Does the inclusion of daemons cost me my faction trait? I know I have to pay the points to have them on hand.

>> No.73436573

>>73436558
They haven't confirmed it to be all modifiers.

>> No.73436580

>>73436455
Fucking retard can't accept he misread

>>73436465
We gave him all the resources he's just a faggot

>> No.73436603

>>73436569
they count as reinforcement points. you play/deploy with 1500/2000 and just bring in whatever. small downside is you don't get the deamon relics/warlord traits for models summoned because wargear is given before game

>> No.73436604

>>73436482
If he makes the guy look different maybe have a bunch of skull trophies on his base I'd allow it but he'd have to be the last guy to take wounds in the squad.

>> No.73436609

>>73436558
if it is all modifiers, then the night lords legion trait can't stack with itself anymore. That shit's already so bad that it doesn't need another nerf

>> No.73436639

>>73436558
6s don't auto pass armor even in 9th retard. Stop freaking out cause a different retard said shit.

>> No.73436653

>>73436407
>boston

>> No.73436678

>>73436417
The AP one is nice, just wish it was a bit bigger.

>> No.73436703

Just so we're clear, ALL MODIFIERS FOR ANY ARMY IN ANY CONTEXT are capped at +1 or -1.

>> No.73436709

>>73436703
where does it say that?

>> No.73436728

>>73436482
Sure, Cpl. Jim is a special mix of dumb fuck and dumb luck. He hits on a 7+ and carries a lasgun (unloaded for the squad's safety).

>> No.73436729

>>73436703
You won't be missed.

>> No.73436730

>>73436703
Lol nice. I love these epic reddit memes

>> No.73436733

>>73436703

>> No.73436757

>>73436703
>AP maxes out at -1
nah thats dumb

>> No.73436767

>>73436558
No. This is stupid and mixing two things.
Hit modifiers (i.e. abilities, cover, buffs etc) will cap at a net effect of either +1 or -1 to avoid stacking buffs to make big ass vehicles impossible to hit (like the tourneytards putting flying tanks in cover and popping smoke). And hit rolls succeed/fail on 6/1 respectively regardless of buff. Nobody at GW has said this applies to all modifiers, or all bonuses. AP can still be -3, and S modifiers can still be x2.

>> No.73436775

>>73436703
source. besides your ass.

>> No.73436785

>>73432613
No, and you can't stop me!
nice Cato though, always nice seeing your models Ultrafag

>> No.73436802

>>73436703

>> No.73436823

>>73436603
Thank you :)

>> No.73436860

>>73436767
>tourneytards putting flying tanks in cover
So they get +1 save? Listen, stacking hit mods was cancertown but if you're going to complain about waac shit, at least understand what they're doing.

>> No.73436954

How hard do you think it would be to get the front of the terminator torso onto a new terminator body?

>> No.73436993

>>73435549
>>>/vp/

>> No.73437002

>>73436993
what does his post have to do with pokemon?

>> No.73437009

>>73436703
XD upvoted!

>> No.73437038

>>73436703
>All modifiers are capped ! either direction
>Have strategems that explicitly state to modify it by 2

>> No.73437058

How can I name all my units after knights of literature without just having a hack list of Arthurian knights and Robin Hood antagonists? My Captain is already named Mordred ffs. I wish I knew things about stuff.

>> No.73437062

>>73436954
New and old terminator is just about the same.

>> No.73437072

>>73437058
Just be aware that the name Astolfo is forever tainted

>> No.73437074

>>73437058
I don't know

>> No.73437082

I've finally done it lads, the nid scheme to end ALL nid schemes. I dare you to try to post anything that even comes close.

>> No.73437097

>>73437038
Those will be changed. You'll see.

>> No.73437099

>>73437082
thanks doc

>> No.73437100

>>73437082

>> No.73437105

>>73437058
>I wish I knew things about stuff.

Just goes to show how retarded you are that you dont know that there's a whole literary genre about Knights in adventures, just go search through medieval literature and pick names left and right, beyond that go for catholic saints.

>> No.73437120

Alright you little fucks...

If a model/unit gets hit by a weapon that is twice its toughness, then it should be automatically wounded. If you fail your save, you should be insta-killed. example: A grot gets hit with a demolisher cannon, the cannon should auto-wound. provided there is no mek boy kustom force field, the grot should auto die. Fight me fuckers

>> No.73437125

>>73437082
>>73437100
>tfw green/purple + yellow has always been my shtick

absolute best palette for triggering

>> No.73437126

>>73437105
>you dont know that there's a whole literary genre about Knights in adventures
I DO know that. I just don't know what that genre is necessarily called.

>> No.73437127

>>73437099
>>>/cm/

>> No.73437146

>>73437120
Fuck off with that shit Orcs should be removed from the game completely

>> No.73437171

>>73437146
>Orcs should be removed from the game completely

one of the founding armies of the game with the most loyal players should be squatted?

>> No.73437181

>>73437171
Did I stutter?

>> No.73437184

>>73437126
It's called Chivalric Romance.

>> No.73437190

>>73437181
you're a tau player amirite?

>> No.73437216

>>73437082
that sounds like bait for posting nid schemes; i'll bite

>>73437120
well that would do a lot of damage to horde units/armies but i do like that rule. problem i see is taking away the ability to fail wounding (the demolisher cannon doesn't hit the enemy dead on, rock gets in the way, enemy ducks, wind blows it off target, etc)

>> No.73437219

>>73437190
Fuck no I don't play this game

>> No.73437234

I cannot wait for the 500 pt meta.

Think I could start up some sort of airborne guard list with that, lads?

>> No.73437242

>>73437120
I can see it. It's a bit hard to abstract the notion of a lone guardsman outside of cover being directly hit by a warlord titan weapon and just walking away unharmed. IDK if twice is best though, but I can see three times toughness autopassing, and maybe toughness being three times strength auto-failing

>> No.73437243

>>73437120
And Flame throwers shouldnt hit airplanes, And assault weapons should actually function, And Drones shouldnt turn a 12 damage shot into 2/3rds of a damage. Marines shouldnt have been forced to change doctrines, and fires of battle shouldnt have been nerfed. The Forge world super heavies shouldnt have been hit in the earlier nerfs, and Aetous'Rau'Keres shouldnt be forced to attack himself on a 4+. Unfortuneately this is how the rules are written and we're stuck with it.

>> No.73437261

>>73437219
Have you considered 52%ing you shitty little secondary?

>> No.73437262

>>73437243
>Marines shouldnt have been forced to change doctrines
lol

>> No.73437263

>>73437216
>(the demolisher cannon doesn't hit the enemy dead on, rock gets in the way, enemy ducks, wind blows it off target, etc)
That stuff should mostly be abstracted by the to hit roll or the saving through.

>> No.73437272

>>73437242
>>73437216
>well that would do a lot of damage to horde units/armies but i do like that rule

yea, your right. Im a horde player too, but i think it will make people respect high power weapons again. they would need a points increase. I just find it silly that a toughness 3 model like a guardsman could survive a direct hit by a strength 10 weapon, 1/6 times

>>73437243
true. well, i thought about making my own house rules amendments and youve posted some good ones

>> No.73437273

>>73437261
Have you considered fisting my ass you faggot?

>> No.73437277

>>73437262
Id take a 15-30% points increase independant of other armies if it meant i could play my fluffy salamanders list perpetually in the tactical doctrine.

Or iron hands in the devastator doctrine

>> No.73437311

>>73437273
youre an angry little shit arent you, lol

>> No.73437323

>>73437262
>>73437277
Forced doctrine changes should have been for matched play only. It would fix how it breaks tournament play but not punish fluffy players.

>> No.73437330

>>73436653
What the fuck is boston?

>> No.73437346

>>73437277
>Or iron hands in the devastator doctrine
Leave.

>> No.73437359

>>73437311
I'll shit on your fist when you shove it up my ass bitch

>> No.73437368

>>73437323
>It would fix how it breaks tournament play but not punish fluffy players.

the hairsplitting tourney WAAC faggots are now dictating the rules to the majority player base of beer and pretzels chads. We're fucked

>> No.73437376

>hordes aren't fun
>elite infantry isn't fun
>super heavies aren't fun
>anti-tank isn't fun
So what DO you consider fun?

>> No.73437386

>>73437376
No one here plays this hame anyways.

>> No.73437388

>>73437082
>>73437099
>>73437125
You're welcome.
Hive Fleet Goblin descends

>> No.73437389

>>73437376
fun, natural fun?

>> No.73437392

Is there a limitation on which model is equipped with the Aux Grenade Launcher for Intercessors? Does it have to be the Sergeant, CAN it be the Sergeant?

>> No.73437401

>>73437216
The coconut crab paint job was so sick, but now it's just done to death - shame.

>> No.73437403

>>73437368
You won’t be missed.

>> No.73437406

>>73437392
Read the datasheet it literally says you dingus

>> No.73437408

>>73437376
Berzerker party buses

>> No.73437414

I base painted and shaded a model but I don't like the end results. At what point is it too late to layer over the original paint job?

>> No.73437417

Any Stern and Kyganil leaks?

>> No.73437421

>>73437403
who, beer and pretzel chads?

>> No.73437439

>>73437346

>> No.73437442

>>73437406
It says that for every 5, 1 may be equipped, but it doesn't mention the Sergeant who is part of the squad.

>> No.73437455

>>73437442
Then yes, congratulations your sergeant can take a grenade launcher

>> No.73437458

How do I stop caring about rules? I feel like I subconsciously think about them even when I don't intend to.

"Oh that looks neat
*checks BattleScribe*"

>> No.73437460

>>73437120
There's no point in having insta kill when damage exists.

>> No.73437461

>>73437442
Because he's not an intercessor he's an intercessor sergeant. So you need at least six models total in the unit to take a grenade launcher

>> No.73437462

>>73432588
haha nurgle stinky

>> No.73437469

>>73437442
I'm quite sure it specifies what equipment the sergeant may take, and a grenade launcher isn't on that list

>> No.73437479

>>73437442
But the Sergeant also has specific instructions on wargear and the launcher isn't mentioned. I'm so confused.

>> No.73437491

>>73437469
>>73437479
>>73437461
You people are so retarded holy shit

>> No.73437500

>>73437491
The FUCK are you talking about "you people" you racist prick

>> No.73437504

>>73437439

>> No.73437508

>>73437500
I can't be racist, I'm black

>> No.73437519

>>73437461
>>73437469
>>73437479
wow. You guys are special. Its any model in the unit that has an auto/stalker/bolt rifle. The sarge is a model in the unit

>> No.73437521

>>73437479
It just says model with X gun, so it can be on either a regular model or a sarge.

>> No.73437538

>>73437504
Brandon?

>> No.73437548

hey I made a guy

>> No.73437550

>>73437538
No.

>> No.73437556

>>73437458
I actually have to pick up the rule book for this edition.
I split the 8th one with my friends then ended up moving away. The problem is ive got questions about rules that i don't want to hammer people with every time i need to know something

>> No.73437559

A) what color for the staff handle? Bright red?

B) how do I paint fire

>> No.73437565

>>73437548
Thin your paints, try a more darker wood color for the gun. If you haven’t applied shading, do so.

>> No.73437566

>>73437491
>>73437519
Yeah just reread the data sheet and he can take the grenade launcher. Don't really like the idea though

>> No.73437573

>>73437548
So did I

>> No.73437578

>>73437556
Just wait till the 9th edition rule book drops. It’s probably less than a month away.

>> No.73437582

>>73437573
Legs are awful lol

>> No.73437589

>>73433968
It was another Anon's idea originally, I just did my own take on what he did. It's pretty good for infantry los-blocking for alleys and streets in city environments. Sorry for responding to it so late, I had gone to bed right before this thread.

>> No.73437596

>>73437508
I can't be black, I'm racist

>> No.73437608

>>73437573
Is he made of cheese

>> No.73437616

>>73437120
Double no, triple or quadruple yeah. A version of Instant Death for extreme SvT differentials makes sense, there's not much point in S6 and S20 being identical vs T3.

>> No.73437621

>>73437582
>>73437608

>> No.73437624

>>73437578
Thats what i ment.
I'm going to have to grab the 9th book.

>> No.73437628

>>73437608
I don't know WHO this guy is but he looks like he's made of CHEESE HAHA!

>> No.73437641

>>73437565
I'm using some brass and gold (very similar looking unfortinately) for them, I haven't incorporated much wood. I'l try thinning the paints more, I just worry about thinning them too much. Pretty new to it all but I enjoy the painting.

>> No.73437644

>>73437401
online sure, but most of the paint jobs i see in person are generic. then again i haven't played against a tyranid but once

>> No.73437651

>>73437621
You didnt answer me

>> No.73437666

>>73437644
Yeah probably true, I definitely think it's more common just from online exposure. Still it feels like a gimmick or reddit like bait to me now - maybe I'm just too much of a contrarian

>> No.73437675

>>73437651

>> No.73437678

>>73437666
I'm with you there satan, the coconut crab scheme is overdone as far as I know and people keep using the same pattern on non nid stuff
one of the eldar guys at my lgs painted his wraith shit with a bunch of similar polka dots and it looks awful

>> No.73437697

>>73437616
good point. triple sounds good to me

>> No.73437701

>>73437548
Did you prime him gray, or paint straight onto gray plastic? He looks... Unfinished, somehow.

>> No.73437706

>>73437566
why

>> No.73437707

>>73437701
probably because he didn't shade or highlight anything

>> No.73437715

i should stop at 5 for now. i don't even know if they are the right size lol

>> No.73437727

>>73437417
ANY STERN OR KYGANIL LEAKS YET

>> No.73437732

>>73437701
Primed grey, yeah.

>>73437707
Correct, I haven't done that yet, I guess I gotta grab a couple things and give it a go. I only have 3/10 Skitarii painted so I'm gonna give them all the shading/highlighting once they are all done.

>> No.73437747

>>73437706
Just doesn't feel right, maybe because there's always a 'heavy weapons guy' in movies and stuff that isn't the leader of the squad - but imo the sarge should be focussing on leading the squad not noob tubing across the map.

Could just be my autism though.

>> No.73437760

>>73437732
nigga you're supposed to have a black undercoat when working with metallics what the fuck are you doing

>> No.73437763

>>73437727
Of all the OTPs in warhammer, why that one?

>> No.73437773

>>73437760
I don't deal with blacks too dangerous these days

>> No.73437782

>>73437559
>B) how do I paint fire
Warp Lightning Contrast.

Thank me later

>> No.73437795

>>73437747
Under barrel grenade launchers aren't a heavy weapons guy piece of equipment.
Sergeants would definitely use an under barrel grenade launcher but a sergeant wouldn't use a recoiless rifle.
If you want to satisfy some kind of autism start painting tracer rounds on machine gun belts.

>> No.73437804

It's a brand new threaaad >>73437797

>> No.73437808

>>73437795
What do recoilless rifles or tracer rounds have to do with anything?

>> No.73437871

>>73437808
Recoiless rifles are a heavy weapon that you'll never see a squad leader use and tracer rounds just spruce up ammo belts and keep autists happy.
If you want a squad leader to look like most modern day squad leaders they should have the best stuff but not carry any extra baggage like melta bombs

>> No.73437952

>>73437243
>Marines shouldnt have been forced to change doctrines
> fires of battle shouldnt have been nerfed
Post immediately invalidated

>> No.73437984

>>73437323
Matched play-only changes to faction mechanics is stupid

>> No.73438188

>>73437323
go fluff your mom's dick, you walking vagina

>> No.73438783

>> No.73438791

>>73437984
agreed.

>> No.73438824

>>73437727
This is why literacy and actually reading stuff, is important.

legislateros are like this green lizard. Only instead of us being illiterate we just don't read the bills they are required to post publicly.

>> No.73438835

>>73437127
>>>/y/

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