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>> No.73240609

https://imgur.com/gallery/fG2aR7g
reposting DG leaks

>> No.73240615

Tau dont give a shit about these changes you faggots, they still get to use FTGG

>> No.73240631

>>73240582
>Thread Question: Realistically, will this be enough to make melee armies viable again?
no

>> No.73240637

>>73240615
>You may find that some units benefit from other special rules that modify Overwatch as well, such as the T’au Empire’s For the Greater Good special rule, essentially giving them two-for-one Overwatch fire – a brilliant use of a single Command point
>FTGG changed to just let one other unit OW
seethe harder taunigger, ill love buying your unpainted triptides for pennies in 3 month

>> No.73240639

The myphitic blight hauler stratagem for 7 inch AP-1 seems really good.

>> No.73240640

>>73240615
Why so upset, we don't know the rest of the rules yet.

>> No.73240643

>>73240609
I really whish they would have made DG better. This is quite shit as it is.

>> No.73240647

>>73240615
>You may find that some units benefit from other special rules that modify Overwatch as well, such as the T’au Empire’s For the Greater Good special rule, essentially giving them two-for-one Overwatch fire – a brilliant use of a single Command point!
>For the Greater Good special rule, essentially giving them two-for-one Overwatch fire – a brilliant use of a single Command point!
>a brilliant use of a single Command point!

>> No.73240649

>>73240615
On 1 extra unit rather than half the fucking army, fucking smooth brain

>> No.73240650

>>73240582
>Thread Question: Realistically, will this be enough to make melee armies viable again?
On it's own, no. In combination with other changes like terrain, strategic reserves, mission objectives, and so on.. yeah probably.

>> No.73240651

>>73240615
>You may find that some units benefit from other special rules that modify Overwatch as well, such as the T’au Empire’s For the Greater Good special rule, essentially giving them two-for-one Overwatch fire – a brilliant use of a single Command point!

Cope/seethe/etc. FTGG is getting changed to let you fire overwatch with two units rather than one when you use the Stratagem.

>> No.73240654

>>73240639
Its models within 7"
Which is alright, but not as good.

>> No.73240660

>>73240582
>>Thread Question: Realistically, will this be enough to make melee armies viable again?

Doesn't matter, I'll still be playing my orks and having fun doing it, and none of you can stop me!

>> No.73240665

Does the Ephrael Ster new model is already out ?
[and the colors edition Daemonifuge ?/spoiler]

>> No.73240667

Nerfing overwatch alone isn't enough to make melee viable since outside of a handful of factions it was mainly something that just slowed down the game to minimal effect. Limiting fallback and shoot somehow would be a massive melee buff though

>> No.73240671

>>73240615
>only lets one additional unit fire
>still costs a CP

>> No.73240673

*The Triumph of Saint Katherine passes through this thread, singing hymns and spreading fumes of incense*

>> No.73240676

>>73240582
>TQ
depends on the context
fast melee armies with ways to easily wrap units?
yes, they already were serviceable at worst
slow melee armies eternally trapped with their 3" pile in/consolidate?
no, they were, are, and always will be shit

>> No.73240678

>conveniently forgetting that Riptides can now shoot into combat after absorbing everything with a gorillion shield drones just like before

>> No.73240692

>>73240678
They could already just fall back and shoot you idiot.

>> No.73240695

>>73240678
Fingers crossed for only being able to take advantage of saviour protocols once per phase

>> No.73240699

>>73240582
triptide and shield drones is still a thing, and riptides can now shoot in melee, so I think tau will still be waacfag cancer for a while yet

>> No.73240703

>>73240665
No. It's part of Pariah and they're still working through Engine War and War of the Spider.

>> No.73240713

>A brilliant use of a command point!

i smell a spicy new meme

>> No.73240716

>>73240582
>Realistically, will this be enough to make melee armies viable again?

No, because Overwatch was marginal at best in everything but Tau (and maybe Salamanders but who is even playing them lmao).
Also, they nerfed CC further by making tanks impossible to lock down in melee so closing the gap toward a tank gunline is not gonna cut it anymore, you have to actually destroy the tanks as well.

>> No.73240722

Apparently falling back is also a strategem
Is this our time, meleebros?

>> No.73240732

Seething manlets, seething T'''''''aus.

>> No.73240733

>>73240678
>riptides
>getting locked in combat
>fucking ever
read the <fly> rule again, slowly

>> No.73240740

>>73240716

To be fair, being able to get into melee with an Immolator and have the flamethrowers somehow stop working was always kinda silly.

>> No.73240742

>>73240582
Shame on yee!
Page 6
SHAME!

>> No.73240743

>>73240582
>Realistically, will this be enough to make melee armies viable again?
Blood Angels already managed to viable. So sure. It's a huge boost to GSC though.

>> No.73240749

>>73240722
>Is this our time, meleebros?
No, it the time of the big, but not too big, shooty monsters.

>> No.73240752

>>73240654
Oh right. Yeah thats hard to position for then.

>> No.73240755

>>73240615
>Lets you overwatch with a whole extra unit
>Still costs CP

>> No.73240764

>>73240716
>by making tanks impossible to lock down in melee
Melee disables their blast weapons, makes all their other heavy weapons -1 to hit, and only allows them to shoot at the units actually in melee with the tank instead of picking their targets. And now they cant overwatch you with all their tanks on the way in. This is far better.

>> No.73240767

>>73240582
>Thread Question: Realistically, will this be enough to make melee armies viable again?
The better question: Who the fuck cares about melee?

>> No.73240769

>>73240716
I can see people trying to brute force CC by trapping tanks with a unit that has a good save, like a stormshield, rather than trying to adapt to the new rules. At least for a bit.

>> No.73240773

>>73240755
Where does it say you only overwatch with an extra unit?

>> No.73240781

>>73240716
>tanks are impossible to lock down
bad meme, they can shoot non BLAST weapons into combat, and unless you charged a quad flamer baal predator it wont be enough to cripple your unit

>> No.73240782

>>73240722
>Is this our time, meleebros?

>> No.73240783

>>73240699
Who is the Taushitter on the rules team right now? I've been surprised that they've held off on nerfing Triptide Drone spam as long as they have,

>> No.73240794

As a taufag, I'm legitimately okay with these changes since they also remove 4+ rerolling Iron Hands Leviathans. I expect the EWO will get reworked into a free overwatch, which would make it a viable take.

>> No.73240800

>>73240767
Anyone playing Warhammer 40k who understands what the soul of this game is about.

>> No.73240809

>>73240794
Especially with Target Lock basically now being a free take on all Battlesuits.

>> No.73240812

>>73240722
Did hey say that on stream or something? I don't see it in their new article.

>> No.73240815

>The Strategic Reserves rule allows a unit to deploy on their own table edge, even if it’s within Engagement Range (1”) of an enemy, and proceed to make attacks as though they charged!

Ok now I really want to know the SR rules, been thinking of all the shenanigans you can potentially pull off.

>> No.73240818

>>73240794
You're all right Taufag. Don't go near the Heavy Cover tomorrow.

>> No.73240819

>> No.73240832

>>73240773
In the article. Which has been quoted several times in this thread. Read, nigger.

>> No.73240833

>>73240782
Who put Blitzcrank into 40k

>>73240699
>triptide and shield drones is still a thing, and riptides can now shoot in melee, so I think tau will still be waacfag cancer for a while yet
Hardly makes a difference since Riptides just fell back and shot anyway. And Tau have seen below average results with all but two players for years now, I don't see why they still have the WAAC stigma when they're at like 45% win rate once you take out Siegler and Pullen.

>> No.73240834

>>73240783
Phil Kelly. But he’s a Farsight fanboy-
Oh. That makes sense.

>> No.73240838

>>73240740
>attackers climb on the tank's hull and disable its weapons/kill the guy who is manning the turret.

Doesn't seem so freaky to me.
Anyway, it doesn't have to make sense to work, now the best way to stop 30 boys to get to your basilisks is just to put a leman russ in their way and Watch them not being able to go through the T8 10Ws all the while slaughtering them with your H12 S8 turret

>> No.73240840

>>73240767
Every single Green Tide, GSC and Nid player cares about melee.

>> No.73240848

>>73240809
I expect a rework on that one since now it only affects assault weapons. Maybe we'll actually get an accuracy boost SS.

>>73240818
It's alright, I'll be in the Defensible ruins :^)

>> No.73240850

>>73240833
>I don't see why they still have the WAAC

It's not that they're WAAC, it's that win or lose they're a miserable grind to play against.

>> No.73240852

>>73240582
I must have missed where melee isn't viable, someone go tell those 150 boyz or 27 shining spears list.

>> No.73240853

Finish the Plastic Reconquista:
- Plastic Crusaders
- Plastic Missionaries and Preachers
- Plastic Death Cult Assassins

>> No.73240854

The article said some units are still keeping free overwatch so I wouldn't celebrate yet, I could see a support system giving it if a battlesuit doesn't have it by default

>> No.73240874

>>73240852
If melee is only viable in meme lists, then it's not truly viable.

>> No.73240876

>>73240819
>2020 models vs 2004 models
cool and normal

>> No.73240878

>>73240781
Stormlords will be a lot cooler though.

>> No.73240886

>>73240833
>they're at like 45% win rate once you take out Siegler and Pullen.
This. Taufags in general don’t even know how to play them properly. It was only until the NOVA Open that people realized you should stop taking fucking broadsides.

>> No.73240889

>>73240749
>the age of big, but not too big shooty monsters

>> No.73240899

>>73240692
its an even more annoying of a retarded statement given that riptides aren't even vehicles.

>> No.73240905

Why can I take Guardian Spears and Shields in 30k but not 40k for Custodes?

>> No.73240916

>>73240783
Lmao crud wrote the codex and made them so bad they only have 2 viable lists, even the professional tau players couldn't make it work and jumped ship. Consider some new memes because Tau havent been good in a while

>> No.73240921

>>73240905
They lost the STCs for these

>> No.73240925

>>73240876
And yet, the Boyz still look better.

>> No.73240937

>>73240899
>monsters

>> No.73240942

>>73240876
Now that you mention it, those Ork asses don't look right.
GW should update ORK BUMS!

>> No.73240943

>>73240921
But the Shield Captain literally has the ability to take THE SAME SPEAR and a shield. It's the same stuff.

>> No.73240952

>>73240916
1 viable list*
2 came after Phil Kelly blessed with with Farsight rules in PA

>> No.73240955

>>73240819
Hum bros? Aren't WS supposed to be asian?

>> No.73240959

>>73240874
>meme lists
You can look at practically any tournament in the past year or two and the top 4 would have at least one army with a significant melee component, if not exclusive. There was that one BA-playing bodybuilder who ran no shooting units outside of incidental boltguns and pistols on his BA beatsticks and won tournaments.

>> No.73240962

Do you think Howling Banshees will get a buff since their overwatch shutdown isn't as useful with the rule change?

>> No.73240963

>>73240852
Big lists of boyz are competitive but they are slow as fuck to move so if you are playing timed match play they become way less viable. In contrast gunline castles or IG parking lots can just skip their movement phase other than a couple of mobile units being used to contest objectives.

Same problem with bug swams

>> No.73240966

>>73240853
> Plastic Crusaders

>> No.73240968

>Look out, Sir is back
>Reserves have no distance limitations to enemy models when coming on from own table edge
We back

>> No.73240971

>>73240874
those meme list win tournaments, regardless its as dumb as saying castle is a meme so shooting isn't viable. The idea that every melee unit is shit unless the list is 100% melee is also absurd.

>> No.73240974

>>73240886
Fuck you, I'm taking my Broadside and with the HRR too. I don't care if it's suboptimal, it looks cool as shit.

>> No.73240975

>>73240943
EZ, they only have a few left and they can't repair them anymore so they only hand them out to the best of the best

>> No.73240983

>>73240974
>HRR
Okay, you’re based. Carry on.

>> No.73240990

>>73240782
post the one with the knight

>> No.73240995

>alright, so since giving Primaris multiple points drops and 36" range -3 AP D2 exploding 6s guns for their basic troops we've finally sold every player like 3 boxes of Intercessors. What's our next move?
>We make Intercessors with chainswords so they have to rebuy their troops all over again
>But melee sucks, how can we convince them to do that?
>Just, like, remove Overwatch from the game completely LMAO

>> No.73240996

>>73240966
Yes, Crusaders. The plural form. More than one Crusader.

>> No.73241000

>>73240962
I don't know how they will fix Banshees considering 99% of their problems relate to being S3.

>> No.73241004

>>73240955
they've evolved. I wish Ultramarines would follow suit.

>> No.73241013

>>73240995
Based

>> No.73241014

>>73240968
>>Look out, Sir is back
It's just the name of the "you cant shoot Characters unless they're the closest" rule

>> No.73241016

>>73240582
This is the best news I've ever woken up to.

>> No.73241020

>>73240963
People spam eldar bikes, possessed, centurions, SoB repentia+jetpacks, whatever then. Its not just horde that's good.

>> No.73241021

>>73240609
Apparently Bile’s faction rules were posted in an earlier thread too, but I couldn’t find them
Do you them a link for them too?

>> No.73241026

>>73240990
Don't have that one.

>> No.73241029

>>73241004
>And they say there is no race prejudice against chinks
Not complaining, just noticing the hypocrisy of GW when it comes to racial representation

>> No.73241035

>>73241016
We have like 10 SW players in our meta and the AWOOOOing is audible across the city

>> No.73241052

>>73241000
I dunno man they figured it out with Incubi and Zephyrim pretty easy.

>> No.73241057

>>73241029
they don't care about stupid shit like that they care about money
your average gw suit looks at the front page news and orders some general platitudes in the hopes of acquiring more money
racism against asians isn't front page news hence nothing said or done

>> No.73241058

>>73241035
There are like 5 Tau and IG players in my LGS' group chat seething so hard right now. I can't wait to actually have a fun game against them this edition.

>> No.73241062

>>73241029
>get unites with more wounds, attacks, become taller, get a bigger penis
>become white
what did GW mean by this?

>> No.73241069

>>73241035
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGslweDOihs

>> No.73241075

>>73241029
racism only matters when its against blacks, everybody knows that

>> No.73241091

>>73240962
They had a shot at a buff in PA and didn't get it. So, doubtful.

>>73240968
>Look out, Sir is back
They're just putting a name to the character targeting rule

>> No.73241100

>>73241029
How much would molds for different facial types cost?

>> No.73241104

>>73241029
They've only made one Scar specific Primaris model. He looks like you'd expect.

>> No.73241118

>>73241058
Is nerfing overwatch really going to impact IG that much anyway other than hellhounds? They might have to actually use squads to screen their parking lots more.

>> No.73241126

>>73240853
Sisters are kind of bland without the rest of the AdMin for seasoning. I need some crazy grimdark space priests. Frateris militia would be neat too.

>> No.73241130

>>73241052
Incubi get to S4 with +1 to wound and Zephyrim can stack their innate rrw with their own +1 to wound stratagem so they'll wound even Warlord Titans better than half of the time. They'd need to do something really over the top like an Exarch power that just flat gives them rrw to work.

>> No.73241137

>>73240966
>Metal models.

>> No.73241140

>>73241118
its not like 98 % of all units were relevant when it came to overwatch anyway.

>> No.73241143

>>73241104
They better redo this fag on an outrider, I'm still mad.

>> No.73241153

>>73241104
aren't the 30k white scar models fairly recent?

>> No.73241164

>>73241130
I think they're one of the worst units in the game atm, so just redo the entire data sheet.

>> No.73241178

>>73240673
Got the meme where this model compares getting coverage to that giant Tau suit?

>> No.73241179

>>73240975
But Shield Captains can't take them now.

>> No.73241183

>>73241140
Exactly, it was pretty much a pointless ohh look you killed a model charging in time suck outside of a small number of units/factions.

>> No.73241188

>>73241126
Convert and ally in some Cawdor. Their models are fucking fantastic.

>> No.73241205

>>73241188
Look at this waxy motherfucker.

>> No.73241231

>>73241118
It's honestly a huge nerf to castle armies like guard. Losing their free second shooting phase is so good for armies that actually have to get close to them, although with all the vehicle and blast changes they'll still be good.

>> No.73241235

>>73240667
Fallback and shoot generally wasn't something you could do

>> No.73241241

>i place this unit face down in defense mode
>your move, Kaiba

>> No.73241247

So I'm interested in narratively building my Dark Imperium box around the Wretched, the daemon-summoners who operate in the space between Tallarn and Nocturne. Someone tell me some chapters (aside from the Salamanders) who would likely be engaged in that conflict.

Also, since I want these marines to be fluff-friendly I can't let them be Black Templars because they're all ranged.

I'm somewhat interested in the Mortifactors, but I'm curious to hear what ideas you guys have.

>> No.73241252

>>73241205
> noose
WOW DATS RACIST

>> No.73241255

>>73240699
Riptides aren't vehicles

>> No.73241261

>>73241164
Honestly, a lot of the Aspect Warriors just don't work. Almost all are made of paper, and others are incredibly anemic in their output and/or completely confused in their role. Scorpions, Banshees, Dragons, Spiders, all of those don't really have anything they're good at and GW has just dropped their costs over and over in the hopes someone will take them, regardless of the fact that Aspect Warriors are supposed to be elite specialists, not fucking hordes. Need some of the designers they have upchecking every new Primaris datasheet to pretend these guys are Marines for a moment and give them some overdue attention.

>> No.73241263

>>73241255
go read the big guns never tire rule and stop being a retard

>> No.73241268

Any word on how 9th is treating cavalry? I would be sad to find out I had gone all in on these lads only to find out they are suddenly super broken or super bad.

>> No.73241270

>>73241255
>What are MONSTERs?

>> No.73241278

>>73240673
LMAO my tank can see you through a pinprick in the wall, say goodbye to your procession

>> No.73241289

>>73240582
>just started making a Scourged army
>these overwatch nerfs
wtf I just wanna neuter genestealer charges

>> No.73241295

>>73241241
>'Hmm, what sort of tricks is Kaiba up to? I better play it safe.'
>I place a unit in deepstrike and end my turn.

>> No.73241305

>>73241205
*squad goes on patrol the morning after burrito monday*

>> No.73241317

>>73241278
I mean, a tank outfitted with various radio/sonar/SI and whatever 'auspex' is could see any unit no matter what was in the way.

>> No.73241320

>sourcing bits for a tribalistic themed Thousand Sons army
>end up with a ton of space wolf parts
This feels like double heresy

>> No.73241321

>>73241289
Even with an Invul, it's a 5+ save
Genestealers have taken the raw dick for time

>> No.73241326

>>73237688
I don't know why but that image you posted makes me think of that "Take a Bweaff" music video from sesame Street.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-u8hi0RTbk

>> No.73241328

>>73241268
Cavalry are niche enough I don't expect them to get any kind of specific preview. That said, the nerfs to overwatch are good for most Cav and if there are any Cav with heavy weapons then they can now move and fire them without penalty.

>> No.73241332

I think the worst part of 9e's rules so far is when they said on stream that they're bringing back facing, so if you fall back from overwatch your guys are turned around and can't shoot.

>> No.73241343

>>73241321
what

>> No.73241355

>>73240716
>laughs in iron hands
>>73240840
So the cancerous players. Also why'd you nids twice

>> No.73241357

>>73241268
Bad news on that front, competitive players are creaming themselves over the Raiders. Turns out 3 wounds for 14pts, scout move and "fuck your DS charges" stratagem add up to pretty good.

>> No.73241361

>>73241332
You shouldn't lie on the Internet anon.

>> No.73241362

>>73241332
They didn't honestly say that, did they?

>> No.73241364

>>73241261
Yeah it sucks, elite melee troops with 2 attacks at s4 ap 0. Deathspinners should be a storm of fire like an inceptor drop.

>> No.73241377

>>73241332
Calling bullshit on that one chief.
40k hasn't had facing since like 3rd. If it even had it then.

>> No.73241391

>>73241332
Facing for infantry was a non-bad idea back in Rogue Trader, but it’s a positively awful one after decades of game size bloat

>> No.73241396

>>73241326
Based sesame street, teaching our children to breath. Without them kids would be suffocating everywhere

>> No.73241403

>>73241377
It had facing for Vehicles all the way until 8th.

>> No.73241409

>>73240582
>TQ
I care more about how realistic something is compared to if it is viable, I think overwatch should always be possible but only with rapid fire weapons.

>> No.73241418

>>73241362
It was in the last stream, about 45 minutes from the ending.

>> No.73241421

>>73241332
Sure thing bro, they definitly said that, i believe you

>> No.73241426

>>73241357
>Building Raiders because I love the Arabian/Cossack horseman aesthetic.
>mfw will be called WAACfag or will have them nerfed into the ground
figures.
I just want a proper harassment unit for Stygies, man.

>> No.73241434

>>73241377
Vehicles had facing in 7e.

>> No.73241443

The best thing they could do for 9th is just make it Rogue Trader 2e.

>> No.73241444

>>73241332
FUCK

>> No.73241447

>>73241205
Will always be a reminder of shame and disappointment.

>> No.73241459

>>73241426
Rules are temporary. Models are forever.

>> No.73241471

>>73241459
>he thinks manlet marines are forever
anon, I...

>> No.73241480

>>73241270
They arent monsters either

>> No.73241485

Has there been any indication that transport rules are changing in 9th?

>> No.73241486

>>73241343
There was a pic someone had posted few days ago when cover rules changes
The SoB precession model dosent get coverage but a Tau suit did. Someone thought it was wild about how sisters wouldn't get coverage but the suit would

>> No.73241492

>>73240582
>Overwatch

Looks like my Nid horde army is coming out the shelf. Can't wait to devour delicious Tau and Guard tears.

>> No.73241497

>>73241426
same, but I also like being able to snipe characters.
It's why I have 20 rangers with double snipers.

>> No.73241513

>>73241471
That actually proves my point perfectly. Marinelets rules might be going away soon, but the models will remain. Just because GW stops supporting them in the game doesn't mean people's miniatures spontaneously disintegrate.
Also there is 30k if people really want to keep using them

>> No.73241523

>>73241486
what does that have to do with my post

>> No.73241533

>>73241485
Nothing yet.
>In before you now lose a model on the roll of a 2 or a 1

>> No.73241535

>>73240582
How does this Overwatch change Admech Cognis weapons?
I have to pay 2 CP now? 1 for Overwatch and 1 for the natural BS?
Or can they Overwatch for free?

>> No.73241538

>>73241480

>> No.73241546

>>73241492
Can't wait to meet you on the field, brother. We can drink their tears together.

>> No.73241555

>>73241241
I DRAW 2 CARDS!

>> No.73241564

>>73240582
Imagine not being a FSE chad in current year

>> No.73241589

>>73241535
That's gonna be 2 CP to use both stratagems, until something is revealed that changes that.

>> No.73241596

>>73241533
chaos already has that

>> No.73241602

>>73241523
I need the comparison. Got a Taufag seething in the group chat for my FLGS and I wanna show him visually that his entire army isn't null and void.

>> No.73241603

>>73241564
BASED Farsightbro

>> No.73241607

>>73241564
KILL ALL ETHEREALS

>> No.73241616

>>73241409
>I care more about how realistic something is

Oh boy are YOU in the wrong game.

>> No.73241618

>>73241564
Haha I really hate them pesky ethereals but some are okay and also we're just the Tau empire but red ayup

>> No.73241626

>>73240582
>over watch is now a once per phase stratagem

*laughs in Italian pretty boi"

>> No.73241627

>>73241602
Just tell him "at least savior protocols haven't been nerfed yet. ;)"

>> No.73241640

>>73241564
>luv’ O’Shova
>luv’ me enclaves
>ate’ ethereals
>ate’ auxiliaries (no racist, just don’t like em’)
Simple as

>> No.73241642

GUNLINES ARE OUT

CONTEMPTORS WITH DOUBLE CHAINFISTS ARE IN

IRON WITHIN

IRON WITHOUT

>> No.73241656

>>73241471
Just say they're primaris marines

>> No.73241663

They're gonna change armies with a 5+ overwatch trait, right? They wouldn't have it so that their subfaction trait only applies to a stratagem, right?

>> No.73241667

>>73241627
As a Tau player, I fucking hope this happens because it’d mean that Tau would be getting a rework away from the shit Crud made them out to play in 8th

>> No.73241671

>>73241642
>Iron Warrios
>Loyalist model in bad guy colors
Classic

>> No.73241673

>>73241642
Actually no, dreads will be able to fire their ranged weapons in combat. Meaning dual gun leviathans will outperform dual melee in most cases.

>> No.73241676

they mentioned on stream that as part of the universal rules of space marines, they will all be able to fire overwatch for free.

Probably Chaos too since they got the same bonuses but you never know

>> No.73241677

>>73240876
the intersesors and revers came out in 2017

>> No.73241680

>>73241642
why not just give them guns instead
that way they can attack while moving up and continue to attack while in melee

>> No.73241682

>>73241642
KILL MAIM BURN, KILL MAIM BURN!

>> No.73241683

>>73241426
but they have cowboy aesthetic

>> No.73241693

>>73241663
Oh sweet summer child

>>73241671
>What are Silver Skulls

>> No.73241696

>>73241676

Horse shit.

>> No.73241697

>>73241396

Old sesame Street was trippy and weird.
https://youtu.be/40JL_NKmGO0

>> No.73241703

>>73241640
>ate’ auxiliaries (no racist, just don’t like em’)
there's a whole planet in the enclaves thats majority humans

>> No.73241711

>>73241676
Your earlier bait didn't work either, pumpkin spice.

>> No.73241717

>>73241682
Burn, Maim, Kill sounds better.

>> No.73241720

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/17/faction-focus-chaos-space-marines-2gw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-4/

KILL
MAIM
BURN
Is there anything actually new here?

>> No.73241721

Why the fuck are these non-deathwing minis painted in deathwing colors?

>> No.73241731

>>73241676
I also heard that Tau now have a rule that if they are losing, they can automatically win by giving their opponent a blowjob in the middle of the game.

Look it up. I think the name is "The Greater Good ;)"

>> No.73241734

>>73241721

Cause gravis is the new termie armor you dumb shit.

>> No.73241744

>>73241014
Fuck

>> No.73241753

>>73241720

>> No.73241754

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/17/faction-focus-chaos-space-marines-2gw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-4/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=40K&utm_content=40kchaos17062020&fbclid=IwAR3YdO1ZSTesXSi9XK0VbqIocOUpUqanUq7Lo98m_Fb3IxAOrrRRgeeJ3PU

>> No.73241756

>>73240966
Fucking retard

>> No.73241759

>>73241697
That's was why I love it so much. The creators clearly had a great time

>> No.73241760

>>73241734
Those aren't gravis

>>73241721
New deathwing

>> No.73241764

>new overwatch rules
Lmao, this edition is going to be a shitshow and I love it
>NEO volkite
Why the fuck can’t it just be Volkite????

>> No.73241769

>>73241734
>Nnnoooo! Gravis doesn't have 2+/5++ and the ability to Deep Strike!

>> No.73241771

>>73241720
I don't think there is a single piece of new information there at all

>> No.73241774

>>73241753

>> No.73241781

>>73241720
Looks like bikers can fight twice now, which is cool, but we don't have a lot of biker units to begin with, unless GW plans on giving us more.

>> No.73241782

>>73241720
Fury of Khorne is neat but overpriced. That's it really.

>> No.73241786

>>73241720
So far all of the faction focus articles didn't actually have anything new really.

>> No.73241793

>>73241717
No it doesn't

>>73241774
>>73241753
Why are you posting these. They're in the codex

>> No.73241794

>>73241774

>> No.73241798

Tau about to get OP, be careful lads.

>> No.73241802

>>73241774
>>73241753
>reroll
>refight

Is the next thing an aura? I need my shitty 8th edition bingo.

>> No.73241805

>>73241764
>Why the fuck can’t it just be Volkite????
Because primaris babies need to be treated like they always get the extra special things, lest they throw a hissyfit.

>> No.73241808

>>73241794

>> No.73241816

>>73241794
Again why are you posting this thing we already know?
>>73241782
Not new though

>> No.73241830

>>73241793
>Why are you posting these.
So people can talk about them.

>> No.73241831

>>73241764
So only primaris can carry it. Need to make sure their stats are a bit better so you know in your heart of hearts that primaris are an advantage over manlets and you should buy more.

>> No.73241833

>>73241798

>> No.73241837

>>73241798
>source: my ass

>> No.73241841

>>73241720
There was one new rule for the necron new unit.
None of these have had anything new in them.

>> No.73241844

>>73241808
>hey guys check out these new rules

>> No.73241846

>>73241485

Nothing yet, but it's likely transports will get some kind of buff as they're underused in 8th.

>> No.73241850

The best fluff was usally more " expanding the setting" (ie Vogen Campaign, Vraks Siege, the Abnett stuff happening in the Scarus sector, the FFFG Damocles Sector) than "advancing the storyline" (Psychic Awekening, Fall of Cadia, Warzone Fenris/Damocles etc). You can argue there were a few exception that were the subject of world campaign, like the 13th Black Crusade and the 3rd War for Armageddon tho.
Anyway, it was before the newly released "official" material (outside BL) felt the need of describing "Superheroes like" duels between the same name character, often ending in draws because both of them have plot armor to protect the sales of their mini.

>> No.73241852

>>73241734
I was about to say that isn’t gravis but I don’t even know for sure, it all looks the fucking same.

>> No.73241855

>>73241837
Dude trust me

>> No.73241857

>>73241759
>That's was why I love it so much. The creators clearly had a great time

Agreed.

>> No.73241872

>>73241844
>They removed auto bolt rifles and powerswords
Dammit

>> No.73241884

>>73241434
He was talking about individual infantry model facing.
They arent ever being back vehicle facing

>> No.73241885

>>73241850
Agreed, I wish they stuck to campaigns within the setting. Fuck it, roll out tru size marines, who gives a fuck? Most of the old models look funky and oddly sized next to new ones.

>> No.73241887

>>73241798
PlayOn Tabletop have been testing 9e and they say that the new rules have made more armies viable against each other. Considering that one of the guys testing can only made absurdly OP lists (its like his fucking super power, so much so that he isn't allowed to write lists for the batreps anymore since his are always too strong) I'm feeling pretty hopeful.

>> No.73241891

>>73241844

>> No.73241893

>>73241844
Is this actually new? I don't know anything about Primaris things.

>> No.73241895

>>73241721
1st Company is Chad Marine only now, Terminators are relegated to reserve Companies.

>> No.73241899

>>73241357
> thinking that will last in the new edition
Kek

>> No.73241909

When will she enter fully into the scene?

>> No.73241911

>>73241846
I'd like them to reverse how disembarking works.
Currently, you disembark before the transport moves, then get to take your normal move and charge.
I'd like to see instead you disembark AFTER the transport moves, but can't move yourself. Then you can charge or whatever in the charge phase.

This would mean you get the movement of the transport on the same turn as you disembark, instead of only getting it on previous turns. Most of the time transports only seemed to get one single turn of extra movement before they dumped their load, except open tops which never dumped at all.

>> No.73241912

>>73241887
>PlayOnTabletop
Where did they post this? Or are you referring

>> No.73241914

>>73241756
how is that wrong ?

>> No.73241918

>>73240850
Literally DG but you're a fag

>> No.73241921

>>73241893
Yeah brand new mate

>> No.73241933

Guys guys guys there’s new rules for chaos!

>> No.73241945

The FUCK is this?

>> No.73241946

>>73241887
>play on tabletop
It’s such a weird thing, they blew up and have such crisp videos. I kind of like them but I feel like they kind of cheapen the hobby

>> No.73241949

>>73241912
>>73241887
My bad friend, it was Tabletop Tactics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObLM6O6Aglc

>> No.73241953

>>73240925
word

>> No.73241957

>>73241872
Give Primaris players choices makes their brains hurt

>> No.73241962

>>73241909

>> No.73241965

>>73241844
>Sergeants can't be equipped with anything additional
>No grenade launchers
>No rifle options
Is this real?

>> No.73241970

>>73241945
A melee primaris literally holding a monkeys paw.

>> No.73241971

>>73241945
>The FUCK is this?
Traitor fighting Traitor?

>> No.73241979

>>73241933
Bro check out this leak

>> No.73241981

>>73241946
I think they went a bit overboard with the effects, but their production value is great. I really like them having the birds eye camera above the board, showing a split screen of before and after the movement phase from the top makes it real easy to see how everything moved.

>> No.73241982

>>73241945
one of the units in the box

>> No.73241986

>>73241909
When T'''au get melee battlesuits

>> No.73241990

>>73240925
Cope xenigger

>> No.73241996

>>73241945
Ohh is this what that Deathwing guy was raging about?

>> No.73241997

>>73241965
Its probably from one of the starter kits that have easy to build primaris. The datasheets in those books dont include options the sprues dont come with.

>> No.73242000

>>73241945
i'm not going to paint one because i'm not going to get one

>> No.73242001

FUCK GUNLINES

>> No.73242002

>>73241965

Look at how it's cropped, there's more shit we don't see.

>> No.73242010

>>73241965
Yeah man, brand new rules!
>>73242002
Kek

>> No.73242036

>>73241241
What are those? blips?

>> No.73242037

>>73241979
1 wound oh my gooood

>> No.73242039

> Be careful, though – a savvy enemy might be able to catch you off-guard if you’re in their deployment zone. The Strategic Reserves rule allows a unit to deploy on their own table edge, even if it’s within Engagement Range (1”) of an enemy, and proceed to make attacks as though they charged! This is such a situational rarity that it probably won’t come up very often, but a stunt like that completely bypasses Overwatch to surprise unwary or careless opponents

>> No.73242040

>>73241798
thats one way to make 9th edition the triumphant return to grimdark.

>> No.73242047

>>73241914
>someone who clearly plays says we need plastic crusaders, as in a usable unit for the game
>some pedantic dunning kruger secondary pipes up with a single character from a board game - THIS IS PLASTIC
YouTube lore videos brought this plague on us.

>> No.73242055

>>73241721
good bye termies >:)
so glad that 2E garbage is finally dead
#youwillnotbemissed #new40k

>> No.73242056

>>73241945
>deathwing primaris
WHAT THE FUCK
HEY GUYS JUST LET EVERYONE IN ON THE SECRET

>> No.73242060

>>73241949
Do you think they are fucking allowed to say anything overtly negative?
Not if they want the early access train to keep rolling in.
Plus they had no hand in writing or testing the core rules to the game.
One of their members said when told that they were happy they had a hand in writing the rules that they were given the finished rulebook. They had zero input on core rules.
Hell they are even saying OH DA NEW SHORT TABLE IS GREAT AND COMPETITIVE!!!
Then Winterseo plays a game on the 'new' table size... shit doesnt even have to move. You are always in range of the scary guns. It does not look good

>> No.73242062

Could them focusing on defilers of all things indicate new defiler models potentially soon?

>> No.73242078

>>73241965
This would be as a blurb, or example. they've literally given like 5 or so unique melee and guns in the upgrade sprues for intercessors

>> No.73242079

>>73241965
Primaris are for beginner, that why they have "easy to build army list"

>> No.73242080

>>73240582
>TQ
I have been rewarded for my faith in Slaanesh. All praise Slaanesh.

>> No.73242083

>>73242062
Nope token you can still use this grog! Shout out piece.

>> No.73242087

>>73242047

1. Sisters players who actually plau don't use crusaders

2. People who want them for aesthetic tend to make conversions.

>> No.73242090

>want skitarii
>want crons
>think Tsons would be cool to paint and maybe play
>lgs has the admech starter box, necron immortals, and rubric marines
>all for 2/3s of the price
Papa bless my LGS

>> No.73242093

>>73242047
Just buy two of them and you have a unit.

>> No.73242101

>>73242001
Tau and imperial guard are finally being squatted?

>> No.73242102

>>73241979
>1 wound
The game is an actual joke that maybe even surpasses AoS at this point.

>> No.73242103

>>73242056
They let a Redemptor in. It's in a WD from last year.

>> No.73242105

>>73242062
lmao no we aren't done replacing every space marine sub faction vehicle, troop and SC with a Primaris version

>> No.73242110

>>73242060

>> No.73242113

>>73242060
>Then Winterseo plays a game on the 'new' table size

Without the tweaked scenarios and deployment zones 9th is likely to introduce. Expect less than 24" between the two armies. More guns will be in range, but charges will also be easier.

>> No.73242122

>>73240582
Local WAAC Tau player got really pissed off when the new overwatch rules were brought up

all is good with the world

>> No.73242124

>>73242060
okay retard

>> No.73242126

>>73240582
With all the points adjustments, I wonder if Kroot will be cheap enough to actually justify screening for Tau gunlines. That would actually be pretty cool and fluffy

>> No.73242127

>>73242047
You can easily buy some of it alone to build an unit.

>> No.73242128

>>73242102
Did you actually expect regular Chaos Marines were going to get bumped up to Primaris stats

>> No.73242133

>overwatch no longer a standard action, but a strategem requiring CP
>meaning charges just became deadlier
>meaning melee is now relevant again


THE TIME HAS COME BOYZ. FAGGOTS SAID WE'D NEVER WAAAGH AGAIN WHO'S LAUGHING NOW.

>> No.73242136

>>73242103
it's not like dreadnaughts do much talking
they're either in stasis or in combat and he's gonna get replaced like a battery in any event

>> No.73242142

>>73242090
>keep shopping there
>get "regular" status
>store owner will hold items for you or offer extra discounts for your patronage

>> No.73242147

>>73242126
It would indeed

>> No.73242148

>>73242126
They'd have to be the price of Gretchin to be worth using in such a manner rather than just buying more fire warriors. They're not going to get that cheap.

>> No.73242151

>>73242126
>kroot
>getting buffed
never ever

>> No.73242152

>>73241720
Why is he celebrating the detachment changes, you would think it hurts chaos more than most armies with their billion good hqs and strong incentive to mix csm with cult and demons.

>> No.73242160

So does the Death Guard book contain out of print models?

I'm getting back into the game after a break since the 13th black crusade and a hellbrute seems like a fun model for narrative games with friends but it looks like its not for sale anymore but super cheap on ebay.

Did they just phase it out for something else?

>> No.73242165

>>73242126
Kroot need to be their own army.
I don't understand why Sigmar gets 3 new armies per year but 40k hasn't gotten one since... what, Custodes?

>> No.73242169

Previously, if you took some generic terminators and painted them as deathwing, it wouldn't really work. They wouldn't look like Proper Dark Angels, yet for Primaris this is what they are telling us. Any random Aggressors or Bladeguard Veterans can be Deathwing or Blood Angels or Iron Hands, just change the paint job, they look the same regardless.

>> No.73242171

>>73242087
I used to run them in Guard when they had broken acts of faith rules that let them move twice a turn and revive fallen models in their uni.

>> No.73242173

>>73242136
True, but the WD article on the DA mention Terminators and Gravis equipped troops in the 1st company too.

>> No.73242175

>>73242126
BRING BACK KROOT MERCENARIES

ON SECOND THOUGHT DON'T BECAUSE CONVERSION AND OPTIONS ARE VERBOTEN AND THE KROOT MERCENARY RULES WERE AWESOME AND THEY'D JUST MAKE THEM BORING

>> No.73242178

>>73242133
It is too early to be over excited, boss. Overwatch was annoying, but rarely a dealbreaker. Now, if they'll turn Fall Back into a stratagem or have stratagem to allow units who wiped out an enemy unit be untargetable in the following turn...

>> No.73242185

>>73242062
I can't think of a remake that I want less than the defiler. Think of how badly they would ruin it.

>> No.73242188

>>73242133
> blast weapons always hit mobs for max amount of dice
> 5 battlecannons to gut a mob completely
> every screening unit will have flamers for days
I dont think so greenigger

>> No.73242189

>>73242060
>Do you think they are fucking allowed to say anything overtly negative?
It's always good to keep that in mind but when the dudes who do the Splintermind podcast say that their experiences with 9th so far were pretty great I'm more inclined to believe that it's not as bad as you might fear.

>> No.73242193

>>73242165
>Kroot need to be their own army.
Kroot are NPC progeny, fuck off.

>> No.73242195

>>73242160
They've taken it off their website, dunno if a new model is coming or they're reboxing it or something

>> No.73242196

>>73242165
AoS doesn't kids and older marinefags slurping up every new release for a single faction giving GW no incentive to ever release anything else

>> No.73242197

>>73242165
Chaos Knights was the latest.

>> No.73242198

>>73241850
>Vraks
>Good

>> No.73242201

>>73242165
space marine paypigs.

>> No.73242203

>>73241734
1) That isn't gravis
2) No it isn't
>>73242055
You do not belong in this hobby

>> No.73242205

I need new sos models, all the new reveals and releases been shit SHIIT

>> No.73242209

>>73242193
What the fuck does that even mean?

>> No.73242212

>>73242171

Been a long time since then. Don't get me wrong i love them and a plasric kit would be alright i suppose, but i have conversions for that and they never see the table in any case cauae there are plenty of units that are just strictly better.

>> No.73242213

>>73242113
>Expect less than 24" between the two armies
For real now?

>> No.73242215

>>73242126
I want them to get outflanking like they used to have. Kroot are wasted as a screen but great for popping up on objectives or near backline shooters.

>> No.73242216

>>73242093
>Yeah I love monopose models and even better - just one model repeated, I also love to suck GWs cock 24 hours a day
Yeah your quite right that guy was really out of order to just say he wanted a plastic crusaders box for sisters. Definitely worth posts and posts from secondaries saying why that’s wrong.

>> No.73242217

>>73242197
Loyalist thing BUT CHAOS isn't a new release

>> No.73242218

>>73242142
I ought to do that, especially when I get around to buying crons.
I will slap down 2 hundo for the three sets I mentioned, and they do painting groups on thursdays.
Im trying to decide if I want to paint my admech for Stygies VIII, or make a custom expansionist forgeworld and dick on even the tau themselves with superior range.

>> No.73242224

>>73242185
I mean, apart from the anal thrust turkey, most csm stuff is fine. Hell, even the necron stuff is nice, it's the primaris ones that are shit.

>> No.73242227

>>73242209
Something even more irrelevant than the actual NPCs.

>> No.73242228

>>73242197
Does that even count? There were already chaos Knights, they just had fewer options than Loyalists.

>> No.73242229

>>73242122
Tau shitters getting dabbed on almost makes up for it being Primaris Edition 2.0

>> No.73242232

What the deal with template weapons? Are they coming back?

>> No.73242233

>>73242165
Sorry can't release new armies and Primaris

>> No.73242234

>>73242160
DG Helbrutes in a new book releasing right now got a stratagem specifically for them so i have to assume they aren't getting rid of them. On the Australian store Helbrutes are still avaliable for sale.

>> No.73242236

>>73242197
1 model is hardly a faction release

>> No.73242238

>>73242173
fucking hell deathwing is dead

>> No.73242241

>>73242126
Have you seen the new kroot strats anon?
>+1 save and -1 to cover
>can counter charge chargers
Might seem useless now but it might be really good for 9th

>> No.73242242

Whats your point cost estimate for the new and old primaris units in 9th?
whats your estimate for manlets?

>> No.73242245

>>73241945
The studio painters at GW are fucking retarded.

Why would you highlight the edges of the pauldron where it meets trim?

>> No.73242248

>>73242232
No

>> No.73242250

>>73242090
>2/3s of the price
I thought stores weren't allowed to offer less than 85% of MSRP.

>> No.73242257

>>73242228
They didn’t have a codex or plastic models that weren’t conversions before the new release as far as I know.

>> No.73242258

>>73242175
There will never be a renegades\militia\create your own type list in this game ever again.

>> No.73242259

>>73242185
I agree the defiler looks nice

>> No.73242261

>>73242126
Wouldn't that just steal points that could otherwise spent on crisis suits and drones?

>> No.73242262

>>73242232
templates aren't coming back but they're buffing the hits on them when they target big units

>> No.73242269

>>73242245
'EAVY
MET'AL
PAINTING

>> No.73242273

>>73242224
If they remade the defiler it would be in the same style as the dinobots and I don't want that

>> No.73242274

>>73242257
Didn't the Knight codex have rules for Chaos Knights though?

>> No.73242275

>>73242126

I always felt like the Kroot would better serve as recon and guerrillas.

>> No.73242276

Where are you supposed to get the prince rules from now, codex csm 1.0? And why does it have a lore entry in the new book but they left its rules out.

>> No.73242277

>>73242245
It's meant to be lightning as that's the scheme for night lords

>> No.73242278

>>73242242
>Manlets
19 points

>> No.73242280

>>73242189
Soup isnt going to take as big of a hit as they claim. The +1 CP a turn ensures that. We will see what happens to aura abilities. But so far noone has talked about that.

>> No.73242281

>9th Edition drops
>Custodes go up one point
One can only hope

>> No.73242288

>>73242245
'Eavy Metal highlights every edge. No exceptions.

>> No.73242290

>>73242273
dinobots?

>> No.73242292

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJAXpyt8-oQ
so Bolt weaponry would be really shit in reality, huh.

>> No.73242301

>>73242245
They've done this for years and it's awful. I never understood it. Less jarring on night lord warp talonsnwhn they came out but still

>> No.73242302

>>73242126

IMHO That should be the actual job of the drones. The Kroot should be more sneaky flank unit.

>> No.73242303

>>73242245
I think it’s meant to tie in parts where that nightlords lightning effect comes out of the trim but regardless it does look shit.

>> No.73242305

>>73242275
>can't even infiltrate anymore

>> No.73242307

What level of Space Marine saturation is required to kill off or ruin 40K?

>> No.73242310

>>73242290
Mauler/forgefiends

>> No.73242315

>>73242278
Marinelets should just get legended already

>> No.73242316

>>73242250
I dunno. Admech's box is down from 165 to 115, at least according to their site.

>> No.73242318

>>73242241

I will laugh my ass off if kroot somehow become part of the new meta. I think I'd literally laugh till i couldn't breathe.

>> No.73242321

>>73241443
>armor values
>wargear cards
>dice outside of d6
>vehicle speeds
>dueling melee combat instead of I hit u hit
>in depth special rules for weapons and units with tons of depth and complexity to make your units feel real and super elite.
>ludicrously powerful terminators
>ludicrously powerful thunder hammers
>ludicrously powerful assault cannons
>15-25 models makes an entire 2000 pt army
Unironically based.

>> No.73242324

>>73242275
Imagine bombing literal rice farmers in your state-of-the-art jet only to be shot down by decades old AA and captured by a girl literally half your size and a third of your weight.

>> No.73242328

what gw paint would give me the closest to the dark grey on this tank?
my flgs only stocks gw paint

>> No.73242329

>>73242276
Daemon Prince? CSM 2.0 does have rules for the Daemon Prince.

>> No.73242330

>>73242307
>ruin
Think that ship has sailed mate.

>> No.73242331

>>73242307
It's getting close to it now

>> No.73242332

> GW categorically say no to Dark Angels Sternguard, and Vanguard Veterans
> lol but use all the new Primaris elites though

>> No.73242339

>>73242241
Counter charging and heroic interventions sound pretty based in a post-overwatch world.

>> No.73242341

>>73241104
He doesn't look at all like I would expect, where's the damn bike?

The mongol look is as needed as the bike. They are hand in hand. Poor bastard has to walk up field while all his troops roar past silently laughing at him on their new bikes.

>> No.73242345

>>73242318
they're still pretty terrible
5+ with a strat is hardly gonna save them

>> No.73242346

>>73242090
;w; lucky

>> No.73242350

>>73242185
It looks like shit now with the helbrute, fiends, disco, venom crawler, and oblits around and doesn't fit the new daemon engine aesthetic. Its top 4 for replacement along with mutis, zerkers, and possessed.

>> No.73242359

>>73242245
That is indeed a lighting effect that happens in real life, but it isn't nearly as pronounced, and it only happens at very specific angles. On minis it just looks fucking retarded.

>> No.73242361

>>73242292
>a pistol that fired tiny rockets back in the 60s sucked
>therefore technology cannot improve

>> No.73242362

>>73242275
For some weird reason I have a desire to go looking for porn of little Asian chicks getting railed by big dudes.

>> No.73242364

>>73242242
Hopefully they stay the same. Being about 12-13 ppm makes them a more spammable choice than primaris (although marines really should never have the word spammable next to them but that’s another issue) it’ll keep them usable since taking a few small squads means you could hold objectives or take some devs or veterans to round out your army. I hope rhinos and razorbacks stay cheap to support more manlet forces playing rhino rush lists.
Realistically they’ll probably be like 15ppm because buy more models paypig

>> No.73242365

>>73242332
to be fair, dark angel veterans have a ton of flexibility to recreate sternguard
not having access to jumpacks is lame though

>> No.73242366

>>73242307
When every active player has both their preferred army and a primaris chapter during the lean times then desired level of saturation will be achieved. If they could get marine players to have multiple loyalist chapter armies that would be ideal but unrealistic since the bulk of them are primer only anyway.

>> No.73242367

>>73242318
Give them a buff for holding an objective, since it sounds like only troops can obsec in 9th.

>> No.73242372

>>73242292
Gyrojets aren't exactly the same as bolters. Muzzle velocity is quite low and they don't reach supersonic speeds until around 30 feet.
Notice how when he fires the gun in the video, it makes a FWIP instead of a bang.

Bolter rounds are propelled out of the barrel with a traditional charge, and then the rocket kicks in and makes it go even faster.

>> No.73242376

>>73242310
you think so? I like my defilers, but I wouldn't mine if a new model came and it was just the same shape with more details (the ball joints always looked kinda empty and LEGOy to me).

>> No.73242381

>>73242113
Unless deployment zones are literally 6" out from a side (good luck fitting some units even in that shit- AoS had the same issue in the retarded Matching Engagements deployments) not even the LOS changes in the new rules will help.
> oh noes a ruin in the way!!!
> I move 6" and am inside the ruin
> oh awesome I can immediately fire like normal :^)
In the first turn almost every army will be entirely in range of the other army. So first turn wins again what, 70% of the time?
> but Muh ITC SECONDARIES!!!
Good luck with a quarter to half your army dead. This is the shit world of IGOYOUGO 40keks refuses to move away from

>> No.73242384

>>73242345

Oh i know, i don't expect them to ever amount to anything, but sometimes shit happens outside our expectations and I'm just saying if murder chickens become popular i'm going to bust a gut.

>> No.73242386

>>73242310
Maulerfiends look cool as fuck, what is your problem.

>> No.73242392

>>73242367
fire warriors are good though

>> No.73242396

>>73242328
Eshin grey

>> No.73242398

>>73242290
-fiends and heldrake, arguably also the helstalker and venomcrawler, despite them not being dinosaurs
characterized by fleshy bits, segmented plate armor, and having smooth, organic shapes

>> No.73242399

>>73242328
Mechanicus standard with a wash should get close. Use this for future reference, helpful when you need to go outside your usual brand.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Paint_Range_Compatibility_Chart

>> No.73242400

>>73242292
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket-assisted_projectile

>> No.73242401

>>73241844
Got ‘em.

>> No.73242403

>>73241328
New heavy weapons rule only affects Vehicle and Monster keyword, not bikers keyword as far as I recall. It'll probably work on the new marine atv and it works on small cars like the GSC ridge racer! but most horses and bikes I believe fall up Biker keyword.

>> No.73242405

>>73242307
>GW builds up the entire Marine range over 30 years
>GW decides to replace the entire range in the span of 5 years

>> No.73242410

>>73242376
Yeah look at all the other demonybubiys like the nappy obliterators

>> No.73242418

>>73242396
>>73242399
ty anons

>> No.73242419

>>73242250
You cant advertise less than 85% but you can still sell below it, most stores get around this by saying "special sale on GW product, contact us for info"

>> No.73242429

>>73242392
Which is why I'd be nice for kroot to get something.

>> No.73242430

>>73242316
oh, you're australian
With exchange rates that's only a little better than 85% of US MSRP. You guys really get fucked on the pricing, huh?

>> No.73242439

>>73242381
Alternating activations ala Apocalypse would melt their brains anon. Do you really want that carnage on your hands?

>> No.73242441

>>73242350
I don't like the new daemon engine aesthetic. I hate the organic armour meme and I want them to go back to when chaos units were characterized by flat, angular armour with a lot of trim and arrow designs

>> No.73242442

>>73242372
guess that makes sense since bolters eject a casing, though getting the rocket to fire at the right point of acceleration out the barrel would be difficult, since any waver whatsoever would send the bolt off course

>> No.73242446

>>73242245
they edge highlight literally everything

>> No.73242450

>>73242329
I got it, its bugged in my readers index but in the actual pages.

>> No.73242452

>>73242429
new models reeeeeeee
standalone codex reeeeeeeeee

>> No.73242454

>>73242386
I dont mind them but I don't want a defiler looking like one

>> No.73242459

>>73242405
>replace
That implies they are actually upgrading the existing stuff rather than squatting it and giving you new garbage.

>> No.73242462

>>73242442
It's Dark Age tech, isn't it? There's probably a tiny computer on every round.

>> No.73242463

>>73242405
You don't want your army to fall short of being the best it can be, right?

>> No.73242468

>>73242346
Right now they're not packing a great deal for many factions' basic troops, though. They have a fairly decent supply of nids, muhreens, and tau, but I don't care much about any of them.
They do have a bunch of the SC boxes, including crons.

>> No.73242472

>>73242175
I would still like them to have their own faction, I love Kroot but don't like Tau. Plus new Krootox and Kroot Hound Models are needed.

>> No.73242474

>>73242245
eavy metal fucking sucks
they paint dark angels like dark eldar

>> No.73242475

looking at bs black templars.
Is it true that I can take inquisitors in the same detachment? can I do this with all imperial armies? Was this always the case, did I miss some kind of rules update?
Am I a stupid retard?

>> No.73242478

>>73242281
>Guards go 50pts
>Jetbikes go 110pts
>Valoris goes 220pts
>Caladius goes 300pts
>Etc.
Here is you future, right from Pythianon's crystal ball.

>> No.73242479

>>73242276
Because you’re retarded.

>> No.73242480

>>73242307
the ruin ship has sailed, but kill never
if only because 50% of the playerbase is space marines and if all else fails they'll just fight each other amidst the blasted hellscape of what used to be prosperous and diverse LGSs

>> No.73242489

Why did GW drop the native american from the deathwing?

>> No.73242490

>>73242463
>wait for marinelets to get squatted
>use marinelet models with primaris rules

>> No.73242496

>>73242430
Canadian. Pricing does blow up here, though.

>> No.73242502

>>73242307
impossible, sm paypiggies eat up everything
30k: 2 is the end result

>> No.73242509

>>73242472
Yes because 40k really need a new xeno faction that they won't support or refresh the models for...

>> No.73242511

>>73242489
because they went with the knightly orders vs giant chaos beasts route instead and left tribal stuff up to the white scars

>> No.73242512

>>73242318
>enemy "melee" leman russ charges into your fat fuck broadsides with a squad of 3 krootox behind them
>spend 1 cp for heroic intervention
>spend 1 cp to give krootox 4 attacks each at 2AP S6
Krootox will probably still eat shit but its something

>> No.73242516

>>73242489
when they realized it was racist and colonialist
#new40k #youwillnotbemissed

>> No.73242518

>>73242400
shells and so on are on another level to an infantry rifle. For small calibre firearms there are many more issues with rocket propulsion.

>> No.73242519

>>73242489
they made Corax more native american in the HH.

>>73242495
forgot pic

>> No.73242521

>>73242489
Native American knights would have been cool.

>> No.73242532

>>73242316
The 165 SC comes with the codex, 115 is the regular price

>> No.73242533

>>73242364
If they stay 12 and intercessors go to 20+ then they replace them. They already have more shots per point at 18.

>> No.73242534

>>73242403
new heavy weapon only affects infantry, no one else

>> No.73242535

So, are horde armies happy now?

>> No.73242537

>>73242490
> GW steps up tournament support
> HOWEVER, stores want sweet merch, have to pay the toll...
> no third party models, conversions
> no proxy old models for current models
Sorry big think Black Man

>> No.73242540

>>73242315
and this bait should fuck off

>> No.73242543

>>73242490
Not at the GW store you won't!

>> No.73242544

ew

>> No.73242545

>>73242475
>Is it true that I can take inquisitors in the same detachment?
Yes.
>can I do this with all imperial armies?
Yes. However, if you do it with SoBs, you lose the Sacred Rites bonus.
>Was this always the case, did I miss some kind of rules update?
it wasn't. it was added in a White Dwarf Issue from last year I think.

>> No.73242549

>>73242489
When they made Caliban into a bog standard medieval European world.

>> No.73242555

>>73242511
Well they still had the knight thing, the native stuff was a deathwing only thing.

>> No.73242559

>>73242496
Ah, you meant the box with the codex included.
In AU it's $165 just for the SC! box itself.

That said, I'm not sure it's a good idea to buy the codex now. New edition is around the corner and I bet AdMech won't have to wait long for their new codex.

>> No.73242561

>>73242509
I'd take it over more Primaris releases.

>> No.73242565

>>73242475
Oh, and I forgot:
>Am I a stupid retard?

No, anon. You're cute.

>> No.73242576

>>73242518
One is a special shell fired out of a regular cannon like a regular shell, the rockets merely extending the range. The other only has the rocket engines with no initial charge to give it speed before the engines fire.

See the difference with Gyrojet and how it can be overcome now?

>> No.73242578

>>73242534
>terminators still don't get relentless back
feels bad man

>> No.73242581

>>73240647
They edited the article. They removed part of the wording.

>> No.73242582

>>73242490
>Uuuuuuuum mister manager? Why are his Primaris so much shorter than mine?

>> No.73242586

>>73242549
The native american stuff was not from caliban. It was from a recruiting world they used after caliban's destruction, the same world that was under genestealer infestation that lead to the deathwing having bone white armor.

>> No.73242588

Wanted to wait and see if GW would update the old C'Tan models but apparently it's not happening given they showcased the old Deceiver model in their last Necrons preview.
I find the model particularly ugly and was wondering how I could make my own Deciever. Any idea for a good base to start ? I've seen pic related and I kinda like it but I feel it's maybe a bit too big. What would be other good options?

>> No.73242591

>>73242545
>>73242565
thanks anon, time to go bits hunting!

>> No.73242592

>>73242532
Ah, you're right on that.
I'm guessing the admech codex will be replaced when 9e comes out, right?

>> No.73242593

ngl I would cream my pants a little if we got actual primaris terminators
never ever
fuck gravis armour right in the dick

>> No.73242598

>>73242545
>Yes. However, if you do it with SoBs, you lose the Sacred Rites bonus.
Not as of War of the Spider. Inquisition is updated to allow a single inquisitor without negating Doctrines and similar bonuses.

>> No.73242600

>>73242512
>stay in melee with the tank
>it can only shoot at your unit in engagement range, can't fire its big guns until your suit is dealt with
>tank all the shot with shield drones
i can see this happening a lot more, instead of wrap and trap or tarpit just send up a big unit with a lot of wounds or a unit with good saves to tank the tank's shots.

>> No.73242611

>>73242490
> all marinlets that are left would be grizzled vets, on tier with Vanguards/Sternguards etc
> ergo they should have another wound at least
> so I'll just use intercessor, or assault primaris rules for them

eat shit GW

>> No.73242616

>>73242543
Who the fuck plays at GW stores? I can't remember the last time I played a game which wasn't at my house, my opponent's house, or a games club.

>> No.73242617

>>73241235
You either fallback and shoot or you fallback the unit and focus your entire force on ruining the units that are now exposed for an entire turn.

>> No.73242628

I'm less salty about the mandatory heavy bolter since it can fire without penalties.

>> No.73242632

>>73242537
>no proxy old models for current models

I'm gonna feel sorry for Eldar and Guard players once their ranges get updated.

>>73242543
>have only one GW store in the entire country and it's almost 300 miles away

I'm good, thank you.

>> No.73242635

>>73242581
>>73240647
Called it. WarCom just being fast and loose with language again.

>> No.73242653

>>73242628
Nobody cares

>> No.73242656

>>73240673

>> No.73242659 [SPOILER] 

>>73242598
Oh, neat. I didn't know that. Maybe my SoBs will get some anti-psyker support, like in the good old days of the Witch Hunters Codex...

>> No.73242662

>>73242592
Not right away, the psychic awakening books were meant to be a bandaid until the full codexes come out. It might be a while so if you want to play I'd suggest finding a deal on a used codex

>> No.73242664

>>73242593
just say Cawl brought back Saturnine Terminator armour

>> No.73242666

>>73242635
or back tracking on potential spoilers.

>> No.73242669

>>73241731
>win by doing what I was already doing
Tauchads win again

>> No.73242673

>>73242653
That's a little rude, Anonymous.

>> No.73242674

>>73242628
>stained glass
I need more of it.

>> No.73242679

>>73242582
They come from a high gravity world where everyone is a manlet and the mineral rich crust has made them an industrial powerhouse that enables them to have old patterns of armour.

>> No.73242682

>>73242664
That's not saturnine

>> No.73242683

>>73242664
I would instantly forgive him for all the stupid shit he has brought to my setting

>> No.73242687

>>73242679
based

>> No.73242690

>>73242593
its 50/50 whether it just end up looking as dumb as gravis anyway, but they have been making it look better with models like tor garadon.

>> No.73242692

>>73241753
Reminder that Marines' version works on any unit, not just infantry and bikers, and not locked to any subfaction :^)

>> No.73242695

>>73242593
It took them, what, a good 2,5 years to give us primaris bikers and assault marines? I'm going to assume it will take as long from now until we get primaris terminators. For me and many others, terminators are the most iconic facet of space marines. They have heard the calls by now. Stay strong and patient brother, our day will come.

>> No.73242697

>>73242245
It's a part of their style. Personally I never do it, looks dumb.

>> No.73242703

>>73242682
it is, saturnine has gone through quite a few iterations

>> No.73242718

>>73242593
I’m sure something equivalent will exist in the future, after the demographic replacement of marinelets Is complete

>> No.73242721

>>73242703
Find me one bit of canon information referring to the hyper-huge shoulders armor as "saturnine"

>> No.73242726

>>73242656
If they were going to make a bunch of dudes on a base model for 40k they could have at least made it as badass as Katakros.

>> No.73242727

>>73242666
Yeah. Sure dude. I was already skeptical and this edit is only reinforcing my opinion.

>>73240368

>> No.73242728

>>73242695
fuck you termies are perfect just the way they are
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee don't take my terminators away
they're all i have left

>> No.73242729

>>73242664
>not basing it off the chad cataphractii

>> No.73242731

>>73242721
kys

>> No.73242734

>mfw the release of new melee-friendly rules coincide with the release of an entire set of melee Primarines

>> No.73242736

>clip flamer barrels
>add melta barrels
>counts as Eradicators
Yay or nay? Should I just find a way to rig a multimelta instead?

>> No.73242738

>>73242682

What the fuck is saturnine then?

>> No.73242741

>>73242616
>go to gw store to play
>it's a gw store, so someone certainly is playing 40k
>you play a game, have fun, and go home

>go to flgs to play
>it's a flgs, so they stock a lot of shit
>9 of the 10 tables are occupied by people playing mtg and ygo
>on the 10th table, some dudes are playing some obscure african board game
>well, looks like you don't get to play
>go home and be sad
Playing at the GW store is the superior choice.

>> No.73242746

>>73242718

>> No.73242749

>>73242731

>> No.73242755

>>73242101
kek

>> No.73242765

>>73242664
Assuming that GW will never give multiple wargear options to a Primaris unit what would the load out of primaris terminators be?

Something like the gauntlets of ultramar ( dual power fist with integrated storm bolter)?

>> No.73242766

>>73242746

That looks absolutely fucking ridiculous and pointless.

>> No.73242773

>>73242729
Man i wish cataphractii and tartaros had the same rules and were just a stylistic choice. Cataphractii look so much better, but the reduced movement hurts.

>> No.73242775

>>73242274
No, CA did. Renegade Knights, technically. Regardless, they were way less expanded than their codex.

>> No.73242777

>>73242165
AoS is even worse at updating older models than 40k

>> No.73242780

>>73241720
>Those old ass Zerkers

Embarassing

>> No.73242788

>>73242766
>welcome to 40k

>> No.73242791

>>73242721
Different anon here.
The only thing like it were the few suits Vulkan made. They're in a short story set after the drop-site massacre.

>> No.73242796

Daily reminder that Aggressors are the new Terminators and there is nothing you can do about it.

>> No.73242797

>>73242738
It's just a throwaway mention to some unseen pattern of armour. It's just like when they mention a chapter of space marines, but don't show what they look like.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Terminator_Armour#Saturnine_Pattern
Note the "Salamanders old pattern Terminator Armour" near the bottom, with a citation

>> No.73242808

>>73242746
At what point do you just say fuck it and give them Space Marine Knights

>> No.73242811

Whats your army and how do the overwatch rules have you feeling?

As a Nids player im stoked.

As an Admech player, im unsure but think itll be fine.

>> No.73242813

>>73242766
no more than centurions, dreadknights, the new stealth dreadnought etc

>> No.73242820

>>73242791
I don't understand people who like this but hate aggressors

>> No.73242823

>>73242791

Figures vulcan couldn't into decent engineering. Ferrus would have made something far superior to topheavy wow pauldron marines.

>> No.73242829

>>73242736
Nay. Eradicators don't have big meaty power fists. And one weapon.

>> No.73242831

>>73242765
>integrated
eww, holding a stubby gun one handed is a central part of the terminator aesthetic.

>> No.73242833

>>73242728
To be honest, cataphractii and tartaros getting rules for 40k at the start of 8th edition together with the introduction of primaris was nothing but a band aid fix to give us bigger terminators that look less stupid next to primaris. But they either need the keyword, or we need primaris terminators.

>> No.73242834

>>73242811
as long as I can still spam CP with detachments I think Guard will be okay

>> No.73242843

>>73242796
meh I'll just wait til melee Gravis

>> No.73242844

>>73242813

Actually it is worse, it really is.

>> No.73242845

>>73242811
>As an Iron Warriors player
Well, it's definitely not a good thing.
>As a The Scourged player
Devastated. This ruins me.

>> No.73242846

>>73241720
So are they removing zerkers' second fight and replacing it with 3CP cost, or is it a new addition in addition to the existing one to use for 3CP in-case you have to over-extend?

>> No.73242851

>>73242834
Detachments not holding your warlord now cost CP.

>> No.73242853

>>73242766
If you do not like that image, you have no place in this hobby. That is exactly what 40k is supposed to be like.

>> No.73242860

>>73242766
welcome to 40k

>>73242741
>what is making friends

>> No.73242861

>>73242741
>flgs

No better than playing at a GW store. Get together with some local players. Find a venue you can hire out and set a regular date. Enjoy weekly, hassle-free games from now unto eternity.

>> No.73242863

>>73242834
Detachments cost CP now

>> No.73242875

>>73242829
Looks like I'll just be kitbashing an auto-boltrifle and a melta together then, I wish we got a better look at them because I cant tell how big the powerpack is

>> No.73242876

>>73242741
i can understand this when battle bunkers were a thing
last time i saw a one person shop there were three tiny tables, i doubt you could play more than 500 points on them

>> No.73242877

>>73242820
i hate the smooth panels, and bubble helms. its not because i hate primaris either because I hate mk4 and Tartaros stuff.

that smooth, sleek look is painfully generic. like it could be out of any generic scifi vidya or movie

>> No.73242880

>>73242820
aggressors look dumb bro, just get right the gauntlet guns that make them 10 feet wide and its fine.

>> No.73242881

>>73242834
uhh anon i'm sorry to tell you

>> No.73242884

>>73242853
No, that's a flanderized version of 40k. It looks like the ork tinboy model that's making fun of marines.

>> No.73242886

>>73242588
The shard of the deceiver's body is absolutely gorgeous and cool. Perhaps you should consider just replacing the head, since its a bit odd looking.

An excellent model to look at though would be the Yncarne. Its sort of all floaty and shit with a weird body, could be a good start. The statue of khaine on the cauldron of blood model, if you cover up the markings of khaine and replace the head and hands could also make for something interesting.

>> No.73242888

>>73242766
Someone forgot that 40k is a satirical game and everything is supposed to be over-the-top and dialed to 11.

>> No.73242894

>>73242846
Read the article

>> No.73242898

Berzerker Champions should be given a power fist and what else?
Chainsword?

>> No.73242901

>>73242796
Yeah, would you mind showing me on their datasheet where they have the terminator keyword? Oh that's right, they don't.

>> No.73242905

>>73242880
>aggressors look dumb bro
And that terminator armour doesn't???

>> No.73242906

>>73242846
This is not a new stratagem is has existed for a long time

>> No.73242908

>>73242846
>With their ability to fight twice in each Fight phase by violent virtue of their Blood for the Blood God ability

They're not changing. They're just wanking about 'previewing' units that are staying exactly the same

>> No.73242910

>>73242860
if i were capable of making friends easily i wouldn't be playing make believe with toy soldiers or posting on a siberian xylophone tuning board

>> No.73242917

>>73242846
its the same existing one that's already there.

>> No.73242920

>Already have DG, CSM and DEldar
>Getting half of the Indomitus box because cheap SM
The real question is, what chapter should I paint them? Their rules would also be considered.
The following are gonna be out, since someone at my LGS plays them already:
Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Imp Fists, Salamanders
Don't wanna play (or paint) Iron Hands.
That leaves White Scars, Raven Guard, Black Templars. UItramarines dead last because I have a small Know No Fear box painted with their colors.
I'm partial towards White Scars since it's gonna be a new army color. Also because new bikes. Raven Guard and Black Templars are black, my DEldar are already black so if I cared about rules more I would be picking one of those.
Thoughts?

>> No.73242922

>>73242898
Fist and chainsword is correct

>> No.73242925

>>73242292
sauce me b0ss

>> No.73242927

>>73242884
Isn't that original rogue trader terminator marines in saturnine?
How is it flanderized?

>> No.73242929

>>73242910
that's what your FLGS is for, anon
you go meet other autismos who play make believe toy soldiers and arrange games with them

>> No.73242934

>>73242920
why not make your own chapter

>> No.73242935

Arch
Warhammer

>> No.73242938

Reminder that the chaos unit got renamed from "Chaos Terminators" to "Terminators"
tick tock loyalshits

>> No.73242947

>>73242922
Sweet. I thought it'd be the best choice. Glad i don't have to rip any arms off

>> No.73242949

>>73242905
he's got an assault cannon so it automatically gets a pass.

>> No.73242950

>>73242884
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't canon. ;)

>> No.73242951

>>73242845
Casual player.

Weren't Iron warriors the top tier meta like 6-12 months ago? How the tables turn

>> No.73242956

>>73242929
i can't i'm autistic
i just paint models and post on 40kg

>> No.73242958

>>73242934
I have zero imagination. All my color schemes are direct from official art.

>> No.73242959

>>73242905
>And that terminator armour doesn't???
It doesn't if you have taste. It's a rare trait these days though.

>> No.73242963

>>73242927
Rogue Trader is before the game got its aesthetic down.

>> No.73242965

tell me lads, was i wrong to buy custodes for 9e?
did i do good or fuck up.

>> No.73242969

>>73242496
Canada has some of the best prices, us and oz are fucked.

>> No.73242971

>>73242920
Crimson Fists because they are cool

>> No.73242972

>>73242884
t. discovered 40k in 8th edition

>>73242935
I liked his siege of vraks series
but mostly I like the frothing rage he inspires in r*ddit

>>73242956
I too am autistic but I managed it
I believe in you anon

>> No.73242973

>>73242853

This may be hard to believe anon, but you are not the arbiter of what is acceptably 40k or not. I think that abomination is a steaming pile of shit that is far from being anything more than peripherally 40k, and you can go fuck yourself. You can like your shit, I'll enjoy the non shit, and since we'll likely never interact again and you'll delide yourself into thinking you're somehow right and I'll forget this happened ee will both go on with our lives and presumably be decently happy.

>> No.73242977

>>73242834
Well then I have bad news for you.

>> No.73242981

>>73242906
>>73242908
>>73242917
>>73242894
Amazing.
What a fucking sham.

I refuse to believe this is real, but it is.

>> No.73242982

>>73242920
Fuck your restrictions, do Dark Angels.

>> No.73242984

Death Guard we ARE BACK

>> No.73242985

>>73242951
>Weren't Iron warriors the top tier meta like 6-12 months ago?
No, what the fuck?
>How the tables turn
No, since IW are about to be better than ever due to the new vehicle and blast rules.

>> No.73242990

>>73242938
Renamed where

>> No.73242993

>>73242462
This, actually.
bolt shells detonate when the small chip in them detects sufficient enough mass around it to explode (Crusade! and other stories... has a short mention of it when an Inceptor starts firing on cultists.) Wouldn't be too far fetched to believe it's got a sensor that when it leaves the barrel it kicks the rocket charge over.

>> No.73242996

>>73242920
You can't play Black Templars with Primaris, because they are the manlets theme chapter. Technically they have primaris, but unoficially they are the manletlords.

>> No.73242998

>>73241118
I play IG and it sucks but overwatch was never a big help to be unless it was a Baneblade or getting lucky with a LR. Most people don’t charge hellhounds anyway and regular IG infantry is killing shit in overwatch. Overall it’s not THAT big of a loss.

>> No.73243001

>>73242984
Where did they go?

>> No.73243004

>>73242965
Custodes are fine if you don't mind them being put on a shelf for long periods when they aren't playable.

>> No.73243006

>>73242958
pick your favorite color + your second favorite color
done

>> No.73243009

>>73242973
>reddit spacing
You really can instantly tell with these faggots
Also, gatekeeping literally keeps your hobby healthy

>> No.73243014

>>73242972
>t. discovered 40k in 8th edition
Do you really think that, when I just made an allusion to tinboyz?
>>73242990
Codex 2.0 (Chaos Terminators to Terminators) and store page (Chaos Terminators to Chaos Space Marine Terminators)

>> No.73243023

>>73242973
>you are not the arbiter of what is acceptably 40k or not
Yes i am.

>> No.73243025

>>73242985
Was it Iron hands then?

>> No.73243026

>>73242972
i can't

>> No.73243029

>>73242766
After seeing some more recent fanart I'm kinda coming round on it.

>> No.73243036

>>73243004
I bought 5k points of custodes...
but i also still have my 6k points of blood angels.

>> No.73243040

>>73242951
You mean iron hands mate

>> No.73243041

>>73242984
>can give Land Raiders disgustingly resilient now
>all these melee buffs to Plague Marines
>melee getting more viable with every preview
Oh baby

>> No.73243044

>>73243026
Good night Imperial fist

>> No.73243048

>>73243009
>gets btfo
>cries wolf
>thinks this means he somehow won.

Invoking your boogeyman doesn't make you right anon. It just makes you look even more retarded.

>> No.73243050

>>73242971
They look alright

>>73242982
Nah man I wanna be the special snowflake

>>73242996
Well fuck

>>73243006
Sounds... alright

>> No.73243052

>>73242090
>Papa bless my LGS
>Papa bless
You have to go back

>> No.73243053

>>73243009
>no line breaks at all in the text
>reddit spacing
you're fucking retarded
>Also, gatekeeping literally keeps your hobby healthy
It depends on the type. Not all gatekeeping is good.
>You must be involved in this thing for (x) years
Good
>You must have been involved in this thing before (year)
bad, because it can't be overcame
>You must have my opinions
bad, because it's just retarded

>> No.73243061

How are Krieg this edition? My order from Chinaforge came in and it had an extra bag of like 50 infantry bits for them

>> No.73243069

>>73242516
>It's racist to not include other races
>it's racist to include other races
You can't win. If you're white, you're racist by definition, and nothing will change it. Be prepared.

>> No.73243070

>>73243040
Thanks anon

>> No.73243080

>>73242258
Nope.

>> No.73243081

>>73242998
I mean if you are actually fielding something obscene like a Stormlord chances are you are going to be willing to pay 1 CP to get that sweet sweet Vulcan Mega Bolter overwatch but the reality is that in most IG games it doesn't mean much unless they really really buff flamers in 9e.

>> No.73243082

>>73243061
Gonna be squatted
Just proxy them as IG troops

>> No.73243085

Any word on when the death guard heroes series will be available world wide?

>> No.73243089

>>73242576
one is an artillery shell so it already has a very high velocity out of the barrel and the shell has plenty of capacity for fuel, the other is a firearm which typically fires the projectile at lower velocities and uses a projectile that is 30 times smaller than a shell. A firearm and an artillery piece are in no way comparable.

>> No.73243094

>yfw flamers get free overwatch

>> No.73243098

>>73243052
what is this papa bless stuff?

>>73243069
I thought I was racist because I hate jews

>> No.73243099

>>73243036
Post that shit.

>> No.73243100

>>73243009
That's not gatekeeping

>> No.73243110

>>73243009
Poorfags like yourself are kept on the outside. This is a good thing.

>> No.73243111

>>73243094
igarashi a CUTE
considering her affinity for big buff natty men she probably plays catachans

>> No.73243119

>>73242245
That shittiness even bleeds to HH. Fuck these Instagram painters.

>> No.73243125

>>73243094

This would unironically fix flamers as long as they got rid of that retarded range rule.

>> No.73243128

>>73243009
Uh oh anon you forgot your medicine again

>> No.73243136

>>73243081
I feel the same way anon. Unless flamers are seriously buffed they’re pointless to bring. I have never been in a game where overwatch for almost anything can make or break the game as imperial guard.

>> No.73243137

>>73243050
I'm kinda meming about the black templar thing, but in their psychic awakening book everyone had pictures of primaris models, except black templar, which had mostly marinelets in their photos. Combine that with the fact that black templar's whole shtick is being "fuck fancy stuff like psykers and codexes and ranged weapons" it has led to this reputation of being the marinelets faction.

>> No.73243141

>>73243050
if you want to be a special snowflake making your own chapter is the logical conclusion

>> No.73243151

>>73243061
Who knows FW shit is always pretty sketchy in terms of balance. But you could always use them for a custom regiment if push comes to shove. A couple of the weird things like that mini tactical nuke bomb tank could eventually go away but who cares.

>> No.73243152

>>73242920

>> No.73243158

>>73242350
>It looks like shit now with the helbrute, fiends, disco, venom crawler, and oblits around and doesn't fit the new daemon engine aesthetic.
Oh my god. CSM got nucron'd and I didn't even realize it.

>> No.73243160

>>73243136
Flamers would be fine if they cost like 2 points

>> No.73243162

>>73243069
I saw someone on twitter getting mad about American Girl's Nez Perce doll. American Girl consulted a council of Nez Perce people to make sure the doll was an accurate portrayal of their culture, even making her the only doll that doesn't show her teeth because that's rude in Nez Perce culture, but twitter retards still found a way to get mad about it.

>> No.73243163 [DELETED] 

>>73243099
in the process of repainting my blood angels because i didnt like how i painted at first.
and the rest of the custodes are still in the process of being assembled

>> No.73243174

>>73242245
you ever put a shiny reflective metal near a surface? Lo and behold it shines onto the surface, lighting it up.

>> No.73243177

>>73242321
Bring back GMs too.

>> No.73243180

>>73242350
Those things all look bad though anon, that's why we don't want the defiler to change

>> No.73243187

>>73243069
Well, it depends on how you do it.

>> No.73243195

>>73243029
I'd imagine, of all the chapter, the space sharks would probably have one or two suits of that around.

>> No.73243202

>>73242834
>spam CP with detachments

Oh, anon...

>> No.73243206

>>73243128
>>73243110
>>73243100
>>73243053
>>73243048
Samefag
>inb4 edited screencap

>> No.73243211

>>73243041
I was thinking of buying another box or two of plague marines to turn into melee dudes. Is the bubotic Axe + plague knife combo worth it? The mace seems like its only good if i cast putrescent vitality.

>> No.73243213

>>73243094
please

>> No.73243216

>>73242321
Only if they brought back ludicrously powerful melee Carnifexes.

>> No.73243217

>>73242060
>Then Winterseo plays a game on the 'new' table size
New "minimum" table size, dumbass. Also, that's pointless without all the other changes including everything getting points hikes.

>> No.73243225

>>73243206

>> No.73243231

>>73243180
I like the big angry chaos spiders

>> No.73243238

>>73243217
I get the feeling that the minimum table size is intended for (relatively) small model count games.
Like when one side is Knights or Custodes.

>> No.73243239

>>73243206
>Heh, I'll make a claim that's both impossible to prove and impossible to disprove, while not actually addressing what anyone said! That'll stymie 'em!
Faggot.

>> No.73243241

>>73243082
>>73243151
Well that’s shitty to hear. Do the custom regiment rules at least let you make something similar?

>> No.73243246

>>73243187
It honestly doesn't at this point. Doesn't matter how hard you try to make it accurate and acceptable someone will cry foul and you will get crucified in the court of public opinion by the masses of retardeds wjo don't know enough to appreciate how hard you worked to make it appropriate and only know jow to get angry about cultural shit they don't actually understand cause it isn't theirs but they feel the need to act like they have the right to decide how it should and shouldn't be used.

>> No.73243247

*flagellate your dudes*

>> No.73243249

>>73243206
I only called you a poorfag. Ya poorfag.

>> No.73243254

>Fall back is now a D6 movement
>Unit you're falling back from has to match or exceed your fall back roll to keep you in melee
There I just fixed melee.

>> No.73243261

>>73243231
It's too stupidly tall and the face looks like shit

>> No.73243265

>>73242834
HE DOESNT KNOW

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.73243267

>>73243160
Just make a single flamer special weapon a default part of every IG squad that can be replaced with a different special weapon (plasma, grenade launcher, melta).

>> No.73243280

>>73242834

>> No.73243284

>>73243254
Apparently falling back is also a strategem now, it hasn't been revealed yet though.

>> No.73243289 [DELETED] 

>>73243163
Is the Old Spice your inspiration?

>> No.73243295

Overall kinda mediocre, doing some dry fitting

>> No.73243299

>>73243246
I don't really care about public opinion. I'm talking me-to-you. Also, you're a worryingly similar level of paranoid as I was back when I was in high school and got way too into politics while not actually understanding them.

>> No.73243300

>>73243267
Pass, I want the option to keep everyone with just lasguns

>> No.73243304 [DELETED] 

>>73243289
that's a land speeder

>> No.73243305

>>73243206
You really are pathetic you know that? You don't even know how to articulate an actual argument. All you know how to do is seethe and throw out buzzwords.

>> No.73243307

>>73242062
Nah CSM is dead
New article basicly told us to get fucked as an army with mixed detachments is now a bad thing but considering Berzerkers were in the article maybe we will get an updated kit for them or the Defiler.

>> No.73243308

>>73241872
>>73241965
You fucking retards.

>> No.73243310

>>73243254
I liked the system we had in 4th the best. I maybe biased by the fact that's around that time I started playing but nothing felt better in comparison

>> No.73243314

>>73243284
I only heard about strategem that prevent falling back on stream few weeks ago.

>> No.73243315 [DELETED] 

>>73243163
Maybe delete and retake without your cheque book there.

>> No.73243319 [DELETED] 

>>73243289
no just was there and didnt want to move it

>> No.73243324 [DELETED] 

>>73243163
Anon....
Why have checks in the pic?

>> No.73243328

I'm gonna buy admech this week. Should I make them Stygies VIII, a different forgeworld, or a custom expansionist forgeworld?
>>73243206
Inb4 you sperg out and hit everyone with a
>Hurf durf nice inspect edit

>> No.73243330

>>73243284
I doubt it. Sounded like some guy was just shitposting.

>> No.73243335

>>73243295

Is that the chink heads from taoboa? How the fuck did you manage to get them? I tried to use an intermediary service but they wouldn't.

>> No.73243336 [DELETED] 

>>73243163
Nice bank information bro

>> No.73243339

>>73242851
>>73242863
>>73242881
>>73242977
>>73243202
>>73243265
>>73243280
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH GEE DUBS WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO ME WHAT THE FUCK

>> No.73243344

>>73243328
Just make your own color scheme and run any forgeworld dogma you like.

>> No.73243346 [DELETED] 

>>73243324
because im a gigatard apparently

>> No.73243354

>>73243299

You may not care but companies care quite a bit since the court of public opinion has significant impact on their profit margins.

>> No.73243364

>>73243339
And batta cost 3CP each, enjoy spamming batta for CP bro.

>> No.73243365

>>73243328
Stygies is great. Excellent colour scheme, solid Dogma/Stratagem/Canticle, fun fluff.

>> No.73243369

>>73243335
Yeah it is, I used SuperBuy and it got here within a month
Also shortened the neck a bit since it was bothering me, it's not a straight swap so you'll need a bit of fiddling

>> No.73243376

>>73243354
No shit. What, you want them to do things that AREN'T profitable?

>> No.73243379 [DELETED] 

>>73243163

Oh fuck. Best call your bank anon, there are assholes here that may try to take advantage of your slip up.

>> No.73243380

>>73243328
I'm painting mine green and playing however I want anon

>> No.73243382

>>73243339
You must have seen this coming.

>> No.73243389

>have 3 melee-focused armies(melee nidzilla, GSC, coven drukhari)
>MFW THESE NEW OVERWATCH CHANGES

>> No.73243398

>>73242475
Imagine Yura in Imperium forces as inquisitorial retinue, chaos would stand no chance until she ends up joining chaos because imperium is too casual and that's not daijoubu

>> No.73243400

>>73243180
the defiler will have a big pussy vagina and you'll buy one.

>> No.73243402

How do I 'dampen down' the shine from shades pooling I may have missed? I heard of matt varnishes but which one is the best one?

>> No.73243404

>>73243365
They are getting fucked in 9th with BS modifiers not stacking tho

>> No.73243405 [DELETED] 

>>73243379
This is why I only use physical money and temporary cards

>> No.73243406

>>73243009
Oh good, we've come around to the point in the cycle of new kids not even knowing what they're supposed to be mad at.
Soon reddit spacing will be utterly meaningless and we won't have idiots making useless replies because someone committed the unforgivable crime of hitting enter twice.

>> No.73243407

>>73243369

How did you find them on superbuy, cause damn looks like i may be getting some after all.

>> No.73243414

What should I name my word bearer army?
I think in the codex I saw a warband called the "34th Host" so that seems neat, but realistically mydudes wouldn't be such a low number. Someone said name them something after my warlord, but doesn't the model you declare as your warlord change from battle to battle?

I don't know why I'm so nervous about it, haha
They look like shit anyways, it's not like the name is gonna matter

>> No.73243417

>>73243029

>> No.73243420

whats the highest amount of posts one of these has gotten without starting over? Ever break 1000?

>> No.73243422

>>73243414
The Black Conventicle

>> No.73243426

>>73243407
you literally just slap the url in, it's not that hard anon

>> No.73243427

>>73243420
all the goddamn time.

>> No.73243434

>Gun drones get free overwatch.

>> No.73243435

Man this is really good. DG might just be playable again, right fellahs?

>> No.73243436

In the new death guard book the stratagem "creepling blight" lets you add 1 to any damage rolls in the fight phase. I assume this means it does not add 1 to damage of weapons without a roll?

>> No.73243439

>>73243420
normal threads max out at 1k. rolling stickies for events also max out at 1k but they automatically delete older posts.

>> No.73243440

>>73243295
>>73243369
>Chainsword in hand
>Chainsword in the back

>> No.73243445

>>73243414
Dictionary Cubs

The Saurus'

>> No.73243451

>>73243420
I think we got there with the 9th reveal. That day was crazy, we had like three simultaneous generals all hitting bump limit for a good ten hours.

>> No.73243456

>>73243406
>>73243328
>>73243305
>>73243249
>>73243239
>>73243225
cry more lads, i havent hit quotas yet

>> No.73243457

>>73243406
>Soon reddit spacing will be utterly meaningless
It's always been meaningless. I've been accused of "reddit spacing" for putting a double linebreak between replies when replying to multiple posts.

>> No.73243459

>>73243440
>he doesn't dual wield chainswords
2b always had two weapons anon

>> No.73243460

>>73243364
Just fucking write Battalion. You aren't on a timer. You just look like a fucking idiot.

>> No.73243468

>>73243436
It's translated from german so I guess it just means add 1 to damage for attacks in the fight phase.
Gotta wait till saturday for the real one.

>> No.73243471

>>73243440

You don't carry a backup in case your primary weapon jams or is otherwise damaged?

>> No.73243478

>>73243460
why say lot word when few do trick

>> No.73243481

>>73243435
>>73243435
>>73243435
>strategems may only be used once per phase

>> No.73243485

>>73243071
>>73243418
wtf is wrong with /aosg/

>> No.73243487

>>73243389
"Don't mind me just killing some Tau"

>> No.73243488

>>73243456
>merely pretending

>> No.73243489

>>73243460
> "No"

>> No.73243492

>>73243457
go back.

>> No.73243496

>>73243456
>h-h-heh y-you mad
Damage control.

>> No.73243499

>>73243380
I've considered doing this, I have a pot of Caliban green handy. I'm tempted to have specialists(arquebuses, calivers, etc.) in purple and gold robes and normie rangers in deep blue and silver robes.

>> No.73243505

>>73243485
Same reason why you suddenly have murderous thoughts, or wanting to throw your expensive phone out a window

>> No.73243506

>>73243254
>you can always fall back, but if you do, the unit you're falling back from gets to attack you once more, and you don't get to roll saves
Fixed it better than you.

>> No.73243511

>>73243406

Reddit spacing has always been meaningless. All the two bit buzzwords and insults are meaningless.

>> No.73243512

>>73242090
If I could get Rubric Marines for £20 I'd jump on that like a nigger on welfare

>> No.73243514

>>73243485
Fuck off ben

>> No.73243516

>>73243456
Yes, the others seem as angry as you.

You mad.

>> No.73243521

>>73243478
Because patience is a virtue, and typing like that makes you appear impatient.

>> No.73243525

>>73243211
Honestly stick with either dual knives or flails for melee, the rest cost too much and PMs are already a bit of a point sink

>> No.73243527

>>73243487
sorry, did you intend to snipe me from across the board? Sorry, I was busy coming by using cover and annihilating your unit.

>> No.73243528

>>73243485
They play Age of Sigmar.

>> No.73243536

>>73243487
why do people bring six of these shits, Grotesque look like a better meat wall.

>> No.73243537

>>73243457
>>73243511
Right, but I won't have to hear about it anymore. I'm sure it'll be replaced with something even more annoying though.

>> No.73243538

>>73243468
https://imgur.com/gallery/fG2aR7g
I was using this as my source.

>> No.73243539

>>73243307
already had a rumour engine for red butcher termies so an update for berzerkers is likely yeah

>> No.73243545

>>73243499
its more fun to give a shit about how good your models look and how you want them to look then the rules anon.

Unless you play with some shitty strict tournament rules that is

>> No.73243546

>>73241021

>> No.73243553

I'm actually glad we'll be seeing more Orks, Nids, and Khorne armies. I was getting tired of only fighting against SM, Admech and T'au castles.

>> No.73243555

>>73243485
I got so mad I ate an ork once

>> No.73243558

>>73243505
that's why we shouldn't live with black people.

>> No.73243565

>>73243414
Even though >>73243422 go dubs...

Verbose Venerators
Loquacious Loremasters
The Eldritch Eloquence
The Prolix Proselytizers
Discursive Deifiers
Maundering Mendicants
Garrulous Guardians

I'm running out of wordplay

>> No.73243566

>>73242245
It sharpens the contrast between the blue and the gold.
It's a necessary step if you want your marines to look good

>> No.73243570

>>73243512
They're about 25 or 30 pounds' worth, I think.

>> No.73243572

>>73243404
Since when has Stygies been able to stack their modifiers? Dragoons, sure. The Archeocopter as well. That's two units out of the whole army, hardly a defining strategy. It's not like they relied on spamming Lightning Fast Reflexes like Eldar.

>> No.73243576

>>73243406
It always was meaningless. It was literally a fucking experiment to see if you could gaslight the entire population of a site into demonizing something extremely mundane.

>> No.73243578

>>73243485
>he doesnt eat his models
weakling

>> No.73243581

>>73243539
In the first psychic awakening trailer they teased a new berzerker

>> No.73243582

>>73243539
Those were SoB Repentifiers.

>> No.73243584

>>73243436
it doesn't just add a free damage to fixed damage weapons
you have to actually roll a dice (d3/d6 etc) RAW

>> No.73243585

>>73243485
I accidentally swallowed a talos bit I was chewing on once.

>> No.73243591

>>73243581
I don't recall that.

>> No.73243596

>>73243528
There is almost no difference between AoS and 40k now. Rules wise.

>> No.73243599

>>73243555

>> No.73243600

>>73243572
>hardly a defining strategy.
literally the only point of taking Stygies above Mars is Dragoon spam.
It used to be for their stratagem as well but GW nerfed that shit down a while back

>> No.73243603

>>73243525
Against marines, the bubotic axe is almost triple the damage compared to dual knives. I'm sure the flails are lovely too, but dual knife marines seem like a waste of space only useful to tie things up, which poxwalkers do better.

>> No.73243609

>>73243566
>It's a necessary step if you want your marines to look good
Absolute fucking bullshit.

>> No.73243638

>>73243609
Whatever you say paintlet

I doubt you could paint lines like that even if you wanted

>> No.73243640

>>73243599

Okay it's time to sleep. I shouldn't have laughed that hard at something so stupid.i must be loopy from sleep deprivation.

>> No.73243645

>>73243539
>>73243581
>>73243591
Jes Goodwyn said he already designed new berserkers so we're just waiting for them to be released.

>> No.73243649

>>73243638
I don't have to, because it looks like shit. Everything 'eavy metal does looks like shit.

>> No.73243652

>>73243539
>rumour engine for red butcher termies
Don't do this to me

>> No.73243670

>>73243645
Really? I was expecting WE to get a standalone codex with some new models between soon and a few years.

>> No.73243673

>>73243581
We just don’t know what’s gonna happens first them or noise marines. This is killing me.

>> No.73243681

>>73243536
Talos > Grotesques although those aren't bad but the core problem is that the grotesque sculpt is pretty shit and it's expensive so you need to commit to doing conversions.

>> No.73243685

>>73243649
If you're going to call Eavy metal shit then let's see your models boio

>> No.73243690

>>73243649
Get some skill, bud.

>> No.73243695

>>73243645
>It's gonna be another instance of "sculpt that everyone but me adores since there are 1-2 details that don't sit well with me but others find inconsequential"

>> No.73243698

>>73243603
They're only really good for proccing MWs if you casted blades of putrefaction on them + VotLW

>> No.73243702

>>73243670
I mean, it could still be a few years off. We know Jes designed the Archaeopter in 2015 and between creating the actual model, cutting the molds, manufacturing it, and getting it on store shelves it took about 5 years before we got our hands on it.

>> No.73243705

>>73243538
Yeah, if the weapon has flat damage the strategem is useless.
GW at it again.

>> No.73243707

>>73243603
The problem is that you WILL suffer casualties before you get in combat so knives keep the walking corpses cheap while the flails do the work

>> No.73243708

>>73243516
>>73243496
>>73243488
>quotas met

>> No.73243713

>>73243685
>you're not a chef

>> No.73243717

>>73243652
Not him but it was a power fist with claw fingers like the talon of horus style, with blood dripping off. I dont know what else that would be thats likely to come out soon except some World Eaters shit.

Also the hidden "write rules for Angron" in the streams.

>> No.73243722

>>73243487
>blocks your path
GW please give points nobody fucking uses PL

>> No.73243723

>>73243685
Sorry, I only watch Arch Warhammer and shitpost on 40kg 24/7

>> No.73243732

>>73243581
They did?

>> No.73243750

>>73243698
Not in 9th.

>> No.73243755

>>73240833
>I don't see why they still have the WAAC stigma
Probably bc they are extremely annoying to play against.
Whether they win or not every time the drones take a hit and half the fucking army just moves away from melee with 0 penalty it makes you feel like they are not following the same rules as everyone else

>> No.73243776

>>73243705
And as its fight phase only, that means it really only works on flails of corruption, power fists, great plague cleavers and some of the vehicle weapons, but most of those dont benefit much from getting ap -4 on 6s.

>> No.73243777

>>73243596
Yeah, but if you pick Age of Sigmar over 40k, 30k and Fantasy, you're clearly a bit of a retard.

>> No.73243781

>>73243673
If you had been paying attention since Gathering Storm you would know its WE first, EC last

>> No.73243787

>>73243717
This is definitely a Death Guard model. It's a very similar shape to the power fists on both Plague Marine Champion models. That drop is probably Nickelodeon slime like on Lord Felthius.

>> No.73243789

>>73243713
Except you actually need some painting skill to critique other people's work beyond parroting "lol eavy metal bad" because you heard it on 40kg

>> No.73243793

>>73243777
>30k and Fantasy
Who gives a fucking shit about these dead games LOL

>> No.73243794

>>73243755
They are one of those armies you will not beat with majority of casual lists. HUGE gate keepers, super un fun to play against. And if you build an army or have a faction that can beat them, you don't just beat them, you wipe the floor with them, and after some time it gets boring too.

>> No.73243798

>>73243645
Wait, when?

>> No.73243800

>>73243717
So we might have to wait a year or so

>> No.73243805

>>73243685

>> No.73243806

>>73243789
Not really. You don't need to be good at painting to know that highlighting every single edge of an object looks jarring.

>> No.73243807

>>73242324

>> No.73243813

>>73243787
>death guard
>getting new stuff
Lol

>> No.73243814

>>73243777
Who says you can only choose one?
I plan to buy Fantasy models once TOW comes back and the only reason I don't own Sigmar models is that Nighthaunts are monopose.

>> No.73243823

>>73243793
dead??? both are more alive then AoS. no one normal plays AoS, only some dudes in UK , new people that never got to play WFB and monkeys from US that will parrot everything UK does, but make it look worse.

>> No.73243827

>>73243813
This joke doesn't work when your alternative is World Eaters getting new stuff.

>> No.73243836

>>73241720
>Is there anything actually new here?
Did we have confirmation before that you can no longer fill a 2nd floor with models and become immune to melee?

>> No.73243842

>>73243777
AoS is miles and leagues better than 40K in model quality and faction diversity. Plus 40K shooting is cancer.

>> No.73243845

>>73243787
>It's a very similar shape to the power fists on both Plague Marine Champion models.
It's a fucking CSM powerfist it's going to be the same shape no matter what legion its on, they're all just fucking recolors.

>> No.73243849

>>73243842
Enjoy you're flying sharks, fucko

>> No.73243857

>>73243823
>not on my nazi lgs
You sound like a loser irl

>> No.73243861

>>73243823
Anon AoS is selling really well

>> No.73243862

>>73243787
>It's a very similar shape to the power fists on both Plague Marine Champion models
It's almost like...
CSM use mark 3 power fists with claws...

>> No.73243866

>>73243827
How so, WE haven't gotten their update yet, DG already did. You seriously think they're going to do a new Codex for one legion?

>> No.73243867

>New melee-friendly rules
>New FW rules for 9thEd
>mfw

>> No.73243869

>>73241798
>tier0
so non-playable?

>> No.73243871

>>73243842
The Bonus turn mechanic is pretty wonky though and can single handedly turn a game around.

>> No.73243872

>>73243849
Enjoy playing loyalist marines color 1 vs loyalist marines color 2 80% of your games

>> No.73243873

>>73243798
I can't find the source right now but someone who spoke with him at whatever event first showed off Archaeopters (Las Vegas Open?) said that he strongly implied that he'd already designed new berserkers when he was asked about them.

>> No.73243874

>>73243862
It does look like it's got a mark of nurgle on it too in fairness

>> No.73243875

>>73243842
No AoS is shit dude

>> No.73243879

>>73243787
> death guard
> lightning claw

doubt it.

>> No.73243883

>>73243869
Tier 0 means really good

>> No.73243888

Any word when games workshops are going to open back up?

>> No.73243892

>>73243866
>You seriously think they're going to do a new Codex for one legion?
They did for TSons and DG, there's no reason not to expect one at this point.

>> No.73243893

>>73243869
>retard doesnt know how tiers work

>> No.73243900

>>73243879
that isn't a lightning claw, go look at a plague marine power fist, it has claws just like the rumour engine image.

>> No.73243906

I reeeeaaally hope the new Monolyth is good and that the Veil of Darkness will still be a thing. I want to do some T1 fuckery with the Deceiver shard and monolyth action

>> No.73243911

>>73243702
I still wonder why they're so fucking slow. I've worked with 3d artists and modelers all my life, and i know guys that do cnc drilling shit. The timeline from "i have an idea for a model" to "this model is now ready for mass production" is 6 months at most.

>> No.73243913

>>73243866
>You seriously think they're going to do a new Codex for one legion?
Yeah they'd never do a codex for Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, or Space Wolves.

>> No.73243916

>>73243892
That's what I'm saying nigger, they already DID DG and TS they arent going to do them again. DG isn't going to get two codexes in 3 years. They arent getting new shit.

>> No.73243918

>>73243892
4 god codexes, 1 for generic CSM with supliments for the other legions

>> No.73243920

With the changes to overwatch do you think sentinel powerlifters and chainsaw ones will be viable melee options in 9th or IG stick to Ogryns?

>> No.73243922

I wish the actual models looked like that.

>> No.73243924

>>73243823
what crap. Fantasy was 4th best selling wargame 5 years ago. In 2019 AoS was 2nd behind 40k.

Also I've heard from a redshirt that Warhammer Underworlds is the best selling sidegame right now.

>> No.73243930

>>73243888
Already in places that didnt fall for the virus hoax

>> No.73243935

>>73241798
How exactly are tau going to be tier0? Seems like everything is pointing to them being mediocre

>> No.73243939

>>73243862
>>73243845
You're both so fucking stupid. This is a regular CSM power fist, on the left. Note the completely straight and flat edge on the knuckle area. Compare that to the Plague Marine power fist on the right, with the rounded point on the knuckle. I can provide two more examples of DG power fists being like this.

>> No.73243947

>>73243911
I always assumed they were just staggering releases. Most big corporations do that, and even small companies know not to release too much at once.
I would like to know how many units they need to sell to break even on their molds. I have to wonder if they wouldn't make more money if they ramped up releases, and just cut prices so people were more likely to buy more releases.

>> No.73243950

>>73243922
*sniffs*

>> No.73243957

>>73243823
>both are more alive then AoS
You are delusional. I dont even like AoS but the cope from butthurt WHFBfags is so fucking obnoxious. It is a way more successful game than your squatted shit ever was, go whine and bitch in the /aosg/ thread instead of bringing that cancer here.

>> No.73243964

>>73243845
>It's a fucking CSM powerfist it's going to be the same shape no matter what legion its on, they're all just fucking recolors.
Did you miss the whole Death Guard faction release or something?

>> No.73243965

>>73243924
>Underworlds is the best selling sidegame right now
It killed kill team here. It had prize support and lots of support/updated. Arena could have been great. But the dropped and trickle fed updates. If KY had underworlds level of support it would be great.

>> No.73243981

>>73243957
you can fuck off to /aosg/ too. neither of you fantasy shitters are welcome here

>> No.73243984

>>73243939
Such deathguard

Wow

>> No.73243990

>>73243965
How is Kill Team not extremely popular?
It's effectively a stepping stone game while you're building a bigger 40k army, and can be played in <3 hrs.

>> No.73244000

>>73243981
And neither are you, Tau cuck
*blows your fucking brains out*

>> No.73244002

>>73243984
That's not at all the same shape. Are you intentionally being dense?

>> No.73244005

>>73243990
Maybe casually but once you start to optimize lists it can be quite silly and not as convient

>> No.73244012

Are they just reviewing strats and stuff we already have?

>> No.73244014

>>73244003

>>73244003

>>73244003

>>73244003

NEW

>> No.73244022

>>73243707
That's true i suppose, not counting the champion because of his weird loadout options, 4 bubo+knives vs 2 flails 2 knives (which should be equal cost loadouts) it comes out vs T4 3+ armor to (on the hateful assault turn)
>6.31 Flail+Knives
>4.15 Bubotics
I don't think any of the buffs would significantly change this. That's disappointing i guess. One advantage bubotic axes could have is in larger squads where you are limited to 2 flails but want to be bigger to get more out of stratagems and spells, but there you would also want 3-4 knife marines just to soak shots.

Shame the mace of contagion is such a meme though. How often do you fight multiwound T5s with low saves?

>> No.73244025

>>73244005
>Maybe Casually
Isn't KT literally made to be the casual 40k? It's something people with little game experience can try and can buy a little bit of a lot of different armies.

>> No.73244033

>>73243990
People were disenchanted with 7th edition and early 8th so it never got popular. Then underworlds was a limited format that had everything you needed in boxes, models, card in a game format that was very tight and less janky.

Underworlds is more arcadey and thats what people here want.

>> No.73244034

>>73243990
>can be played in <3 hrs
Looking at the special rules for each model looks tedious as fuck and the micro managing of each miniature is not appealing to a lot of people

>> No.73244035

Does anyone know where I can get the Cadian Infantry Squad Upgrade Pack? Surely some third party retailers sell it?

>> No.73244037

>>73242797
hey look a grog

>> No.73244039

>>73244002
Here's the third example. If you really can't tell how this differs from a CSM fist, then you're just lost.

>> No.73244043

New edition when?
Rumors told preorders would be up on june 23 but this seems highly unlikely given we still have one PA book to go after WotS.
What's the most likely scenario in your opinion? Not before late July for sure.

>> No.73244051

>>73244034
yeah, it ain't fun at all

>> No.73244056

>>73243939
>old CSM fist on the left from before GW started doing modern updates
Dumbass

>> No.73244060

>>73244035
are you talking about the forge world kit?

>> No.73244066

>>73244037
What? How is that applicable at all?

>> No.73244077

>>73244035
If you just want more heads and gear plenty of 3rd parties make Cadian-esque stuff for cheaper

>> No.73244092

>>73244025
Yeah but some people want to make it competitive and if someone is building models to fit kill team it might not translate as well to regular 40k

>> No.73244099

>>73244043
wasn't it the 23rd of July?

>> No.73244105

>>73240853
>Plastic crusader
WHQ : Escalation
>Plastic Missionaries and Preachers
WHQ : Blackstone Fortress
>Plastic Death Cult
Kill Team : Rogue trader

>> No.73244108

>>73244056
That is from the new kit, imbecile. The old CSM power fist had two exhaust pipes and was pointing. I don't understand how you could make this mistake, unless if you own neither kit.

>> No.73244151

>>73244056

>> No.73244393

>>73243871
It does make games a lot more random, but it also makes pulling off flowchart combo turns more difficult
Fun > competitiveness

>> No.73244498

Check post anon here.
Got account and everything closed. Thanks to the anons who pointed it outm

>> No.73244585

>>73243787
no it isn't, it's cataphractii lightning claws with Khorne trim from a Red Butcher.

>> No.73244626

>>73240850
This.
Since 3rd all Tau had 1 thing in common: playing against them is a miserable experience.

>> No.73244891

I wish there were more fortifications and hireable terrain. Tau have those funky wall things, the imperium has their big tower. I like that stuff and wish there was more of it.

>> No.73244990

>>73244891
build it yourself
I fucking despise the way GW has killed the hobbyist's mentality

>> No.73245538

>>73243527
I hought units cant only be seen if they are wholly within terrain,not behind it?

>> No.73245576

>>73245538
5 inch tall terrain obscures anything below 20 wounds as of 9th

>> No.73245607

>>73245576
So you mean to tell me even though im not in a building f.i. the enemy still cant see me if im behind? Noice

Playing nids against tau just got good

>> No.73245631

>>73245607
yeah
you gotta decide for each piece of terrain though, so expect to get the tape measure out against waacfags

>> No.73245681

>>73244990
What? I'm asking for rules, not models.
Well, usually new models come alongside rules for them, but what i mean is i want faction specific pieces of terrain that provide thematic benefits, likely in exchange for points or CP.

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