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Archetypes Edition

>playing
>h8ing
>brewing

RESOURCES:
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/format?f=MO
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/modern#paper

>Comprehensive Magic search engine
https://scryfall.com/

>Build and share decks
https://deckstats.net/
http://tappedout.net/

Previous >>72283477 (OP)

>TQ
What is your favorite archetype to play?

>> No.72293154

RDW

>> No.72293171

>>72293109
>TQ
Control I miss the times before Teferi

>> No.72293193

>>72293109
>>What is your favorite archetype to play?
Tempo and Aggro with disruption like Humans.

>> No.72293238

>>72293109
>tq
combo

>> No.72293287

>>72293107
Okay you got me, I think I was just being salty.

>> No.72293378

>>72293109
midrange, anything else is for niggers

>> No.72293512

>>72293287
It happens to everyone, especially in these trying times.

>> No.72293548

reminder that 'polarizing' is corprate doublespeak for successful :^)

>> No.72293574

>>72293548
it's actually corporate speak for "everybody hates it except a few cherrypicked sycophants"

maro is not so braindead he can't see the writing on the wall

>> No.72293587

lol

>> No.72293618

>>72293548
>as well as the rest of Ikoria
does anyone care about the rest of Ikoria?
even in standard it looks like the big decks picked up companions and the tri-lands and fuck everything else from the set

>> No.72293707

>>72293618
yeah it's bfz all over again
absolute dogshit forgettable set with a handful of fundamentally broken cards that will ruin the game for a solid half a year

I already predicted this a while back but maro has basically confirmed that the timeline on a companion fix/ban won't be reasonable at all. Minimum 1 month (closer to 2-3) for quarantines to start be lifted. Minimum 1 month (closer to 2-3) to "gather data". We're likely looking at modern being shitted up by companions until August in a best case scenario. Time to check out of this shit hobby and do something else this summer.

>> No.72293729

>>72293707
take the /trad/pill

>> No.72293736

>>72293707
What a fucking jew. Is there seriously not enough evidence yet? How do I email this pic to him, I wanna get his response.

>> No.72293754

>>72293707
>the most skilled, dedicated, and time-invested players grind out cumulative tens of thousands of match data to demonstrably show that companions are broken
>but timothy at le lgs hasnt gotten to play with it yet anon :^) the dust is still all up in the air

>> No.72293805

>>72293587
>what if we took the most soulful plane in magic and just took a hefty shit on it for those cyberpunk dollars?
lol indeed

>> No.72293826

>>72293805
at least it would distance the absolute disservice they would do the plane from the original block

>> No.72293867

>>72293729
I'd rather take the quitpill

>> No.72293902

>>72293867
that's the bitterest one of them all, but I respect your decision

>> No.72293903

>>72293867
Very based

>> No.72293965

>>72293729
>>72293736
>>72293754
>>72293867
heh, you guys complain now but a few years from now you'll all be nostalgic about companions. typical whiny magic players.
t. nosewater

>> No.72293984

>>72293965
Lol
>in 10 years we'll print something so broken magic players will actually like companion

>> No.72293986

>>72293965
>10 years from now we'll make companions look like a fucking joke with how busted shit will be
lol

>> No.72293987

>>72293902
I know. Despite all it's shortcomings I love this game and I have met cool people playing it, however, when the company in charge of it doesn't thinks with the best interest of the players in mind, then I can hardly justify spending much more of my time on it.

Our time in this world is limited, and there are much better things to do than spending it as the cattle of some corporate executives trying to sell me the most cardboard they can every 3 months. If it were the best, most entertaining cardboard, then sure, but if it's only purpouse is to beat the previous cardboard without care for the quality, then it's not worth it.

>> No.72294151

>>72293109
Treasure Hunt
(both the oracle and zombie hunt versions)

>> No.72294250

>>72293109
Tempo. Which is why I don't play memedern

>> No.72294258

>>72293986
>He thinks Mtg will last another 10 years

>> No.72294301

>>72294258
It's absurd that MTG is big enough to have a bunch of other companies that specifically exist to ride its wake. The game is definitely going to die soon (at least on a competitive level), so the fallout will be pretty hard there.

>> No.72294343

>>72293548
That's corporate doublespeak for widely hated. That kind of speak is supposed to make bad things look as good as possible, or at least neutral. If it were successful why would corporate doublespeak be employed to say it was polarizing? That's not how it works. Things are always worse than they are willing to admit. That's corporate doublespeak.

>> No.72294600

>>72293984
>>72293986
more like 10 months

>> No.72295572

>>72293987
Take the Netrunner pill anon.

>> No.72295573

>>72293548
Maro's getting so desperate he had to go through a billion of hate posts to find this gargling circumcised cock sucker to pin it and show not everyone is shitting on the most retarded mechanic ever.
If anything it just show how terrible the situation is. For once i expect some design kikes at jotc getting the boot as sacrifice to appease the angry crowd. This time they can't get away with it, it was just too big of a mess up.

>> No.72295589

>>72294250
Lurrus Delver is a tip deck.

>> No.72295635

>>72293754
>but timothy at le lgs hasnt gotten to play with it yet anon :^) the dust is still all up in the air
i keked pretty hard, thanks fren

>> No.72295676

>>72294600
Try 10 weeks

>> No.72295695

Am I the only one playing modern who actually likes new cards shaking things up? Playing against stock list tron/jund/burn/uw control for eternity sounds like hell.

>> No.72295705

>>72295695
you still play against those things retard only now they're ten times more powerful and you have to rearrange your whole deck to play a pokemon too or you just lose to them

>> No.72295725

>>72295695
companions are next level homogenizing, every game look exactly the same now, tf are you smoking bruh?

>> No.72295908

>>72295725
Eternal formats already have so much redundancy that you can just shove 40 copies of bolt in your deck and blindly keep the first hand you draw

>> No.72295913

A thing that I just realized is how little TBD and Uro have shaped the meta compared to WAR ELD or Ikoria, even though I think few people would call tbd a low powered set.

I also love the idea how wotc must be on all around damage control at this very moment. Their set hasnt even been physically released and has irreversibly altered almost all formats in existence.

Imagine printing a card that is played by half the vintage decks within weeks and restricting it will do nothing, haha

>> No.72296050

I miss stuff like this lads.

>> No.72296473

why hasn't tcgplayer had a cashback sale in forever

>> No.72296485

>>72296473
bro I don't even think they're doing tcgplayer direct. they're located in syracuse, NY so they're still probably under some kind of lockdown and all their employees decided to unionize right as the coronavirus hit

>> No.72296856

>>72293618
I love mutate :3
>>72293707
Dont go comparing the two sets. Limited ikoria is decent, contrary to that fucking garbage of bfz

>> No.72297150

>>72296485
I live in Syracuse, and you can get arrested for being out and about without a reason, and anyone in public has to be wearing a facemask be fined

>> No.72297171

Since TCGPlayer Direct is down I invested my trumpbux in stocks instead and I'm up 150 dollars. Kind of puts it all into perspective.

>> No.72297302

>>72297171
Wtf I did the exact same thing except I lost 150 dollars. Stefan??

>> No.72297321

>>72297302
You'll never get your Grinding Stations or your 150 dollars back, hon hon hon

>> No.72297361

>>72296856
mutate is probably the easiest way to 2-for-1 yourself in the history of the game

>> No.72297660

>>72293109

Aggro/tempo/stax hybrids. Delvers are aggro tempo. Eldrazi is aggro/stax. DNT is tempo/stax.

>> No.72297715

>>72297321
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>> No.72297847

>>72293548
I hope there aren't many people like this that will give mark rosewater the wrong idea

>>72293707
He literally doesn't address the meat of what this person is saying at all, a very valid critique of the mechanic's design

>> No.72297948

>>72297847
imo L O N D O N has done that as well. For better or worse, there’s pros and cons to reducing extremes in variance, but I find it a) puts extra emphasis on deckbuilding, and b) leads to some of the funnest games in addition to stinkers. Not that the mulligan rule changes it that much, but think about the decision you make to put a card back and how your decision sculpts the hand you have.
You always put back the stinker. Less games where you have full houses and whacky hands and instead more consistent action.

I find the truly fun action lurks in the spaces inbetween the consistency.

>> No.72297963

>>72297948
*vancoomer mull for a) and b)

>> No.72297979

>>72297948
I have no clue what you're trying to say, but companions make every hand the same in at least one way, so...

>> No.72297986

>>72297979
london mulligan

>> No.72298029

>>72297979
Meant to say that it’s more than companions that lead to this; it’s also the shittier mulligan rule.

Companions are leaps and bounds ahead of anything else when we are talking about mtg consistency and there is no way for this mechanic to be balanced unless you ban all 10 companions or print 10 more generic ones and they hand them out like cars at an oprah show

>> No.72298092

>>72298029
ehh the london mulligan doesn't affect consistency nearly as much as companions. If neobrand is a little more powerful and has to get banned as a result, I'll take it in exchange for getting screwed/flooded less. Because yes the london mulligan reduces variance, but it mostly reduces the flood/screw games that naturally come with variance but that aren't fun; the london mulligan doesn't come close to making the game repetitive.

>> No.72298097

Variance is bad and you should be allowed to stack your deck at the start of the match, change my mind. I want games to be decided by skill not by who gets flooded

>> No.72298101

>We have the tools to adjust!

>> No.72298107

>>72298097
Part of skill is knowing how to use whatever part of your deck you draw moron

>> No.72298138

>>72298097
If you think that's more fun, put your money where your mouth is and try it with someone

>> No.72298177

>>72298101
a hilarious thing to say, considering that an entire class of tools (discard) is completely ineffective against companions

>> No.72298187

>>72298138
I mean, decks are already designed around that concept. You want your deck to beat turn 3 tron, not "oops i kept a 1 lander and 6 karns" tron.

>> No.72298210

>>72298187
Not even close to comparable to what your talking about. Now shut the fuck up and come back when you know what your idea plays like

>> No.72298241

>>72298187
>>72298210
Y'know what, why am I even entertaining this? If what you talked about were implemented, every format would just play one deck based around the best combo and games would be determined by who went first

>> No.72298269

>>72298138
In a different card game or different format it would be sweet, it’s like 60 step mental magic. It might be the most based format.

>> No.72298282

>>72298241
Your Spike Chancellor deck is no match for my Providence Weenies.

>> No.72298283

>>72298241
I read a thought experiment about it and the writer suggested that it would turn the game into Rock-Paper-Scissors, with 3 decks:

The best turn 0 deck
The deck made to shut down the turn 0 deck
The deck that shuts down that second deck, but loses to the first.

I don't know how that would actually play out, but it's safe to say that there would be at least 2 decks.

>> No.72298301

>>72298283
Sounds like a looot of fun...

>> No.72298302

>>72298241
>what is counterplay
thats a yikes from me anon

>> No.72298306

>>72298283
that was the original ravager meta which basically killed the game and even then ravager was still top tier and you either played ravager or anti-ravager and anything else was like a combined 10% of the meta
so what you're suggesting happened before and we know from experience that it was miserable as all fuck

>> No.72298315

>>72298302
see
>>72298283
and then see
>>72298283


you are dumb

>> No.72298331

>>72298301
I didn't mean to suggest that it sounded fun, a more muddled meta is definitely better for everyone, otherwise my ninjas deck would always lose...

>> No.72298345

>>72298097
>People should be allowed to stack their deck
If I wanted to play bloody knuckles, I wouldn't waste money on cardboard.

>> No.72298358

>>72298283
Honestly the top deck would probably be some sort of esper control. t0 Leyline of Sanctity, t1 Thoughtsieze with Forces in hand to stop opponent comboing off, then drawing into a midrange strategy to fight against similar decks

>> No.72298416

it works best with two people. It’s a format called premeditated mental magic and it’s not cancer. What probably would happen and what actually would happen are different sometimes.

>> No.72298441

>>72298358
You're just describing the second deck in that list
>>72298416
Any resources, gameplay videos, anything? And even if the format isn't bad, I don't want all magic to be like that like anon was saying.

>> No.72298462

I bet if the government put the MTGO software into a machine learning super computer with this dumb timmy format then made it duke it out infinitely we would see how dynamic the meta might really be.

>> No.72298468

>>72295695
You dumb faggot U/W hasn't existed for almost a year because of VoS and just going Bant, and Tron, Jund, and Burn are STILL COMMON DECKS WITH LURRUS AROUND. The only good that's come from Lurrus is Seal of Fire Jund and Delver, but Lurrus Burn is even stupider than regular Burn and all Lurrus decks that aren't Burn or Bogles or whatever are basically the same thing.

>> No.72298487

>>72298441
no it’s a meme but mental magic is a format. premeditating it is something for AI since humans would be sneaky bastards with spike chancellor and the meta might get stuck there.
This format is so stupid i love it
MMG where it’s always christmas land

>> No.72298497

>>72298462
regular magic isn't able to be solved like that, and I suspect this format isn't either

>> No.72298517

>>72298462
Probably not, but I bet they could give you hard answers on questions like "what's the perfect deck" and spit it out to the card if you fed it all play data available from events involving real players.

>> No.72298525

>>72295695
You realize new decks can appear and old decks can get stronger without broken shit like companion being printed, right?

>> No.72298552

It's kind of unsurprising, I've seen at least several dozen posts from random people online saying they like companion, and without fail, every single one is a fucking retard who sucks at the game. I have never once seen anyone remotely competitive say they like companions except with caveats like "companions seem kinda cool...too bad they're broken as fuck" or "I will not make a statement until there is more data". Even the morons going "we need more data" often say stupid shit like "companions aren't homogenizing you can't say that it's only been a week" despite a week's worth of 30+ events all with companions being 40%+ of the meta and 80%+ of the tops.

>> No.72298571

>>72298283
Here's a Frank Karsten article from a couple of years back. Not about stacking decks but allowing unlimited number of copies.
https://www.channelfireball.com/all-strategy/articles/what-if-the-4-card-limit-was-abolished-in-modern/

>> No.72298577

>>72298497
If the super computer predicted at some point that it was more intelligent to not go spike chancellor than otherwise, the meta would go above and beyond, with the 59th card being important. Pls gov run vidya bots

>> No.72298606

>>72298306
If you played T&N during Ravager Affinity meta you were a sucker. The only real deck during then was Affinity, and a distant second was Molder Slug Ponza. That was it.

>> No.72298607

>>72298552
>companions seem kinda cool...too bad they're broken as fuck

>> No.72298623

>>72298571
Ah, that's the article, yeah, my fault I forgot that it was about card limit rather than stacking the deck, though I would imagine there are some similarities (playing 60 of one card is a bit like stacking your deck)

>> No.72298642

>>72298517
I meant hook up mtgo to a machine learning super computer and give it a cookie whenever it gets a win, let it order decks and decode this timmy format meta

>> No.72298710

>>72298642
It already is, but WotC no longer shares the full results with us.

>> No.72298721

I hope they flat out make it applicable EDH only, the sooner the better, but they are bumblers and might not.

>> No.72298781

>>72298721
No please, edh doesn't want this shit either. Just ban companionshit everywhere.

>> No.72298826

>>72296050
based and underrated

>> No.72298829

>>72298781
I don't think companions are that destructive in edh. And I love the idea of using partner commanders and a companion to start with 10 cards in hand lol

>> No.72298845

>>72298829
I wish I could hate you to death through the screen.

>> No.72298854

>>72298829
What about partner planeswalker commanders with partner companions?

>> No.72298855

>>72298845
Too bad you can't :)
See you fnm ;)

>> No.72298864

>>72298855
>edh fnm

>> No.72298866

>>72298854
wut
those don't exist and I don't really want them to

>> No.72298867

>>72298845
#TeamLutri

>> No.72298881

>>72298867
>banned day -42

>> No.72298884

>>72293736

HARDENED SCALES ISN'T DEAD

>> No.72298919

>>72298781
Why can't they just change the rule of companion?
It doesn't say on the card what it means so they can change it however they want.

>> No.72298931

>>72298919
They did, they changed the rules to let companion work because the edh rules committee is a bunch of fucking clowns. If sheldon had any fucking balls he wouldn't have tolerated this shit and changed the rules to allow them.

>> No.72298945

Why haven’t you taken the tradpill yet, anons?

>> No.72298952

>>72298854
>>72298845
partner commanders are actually kinda cool, as long as they're not "partner with." Creating combinations that synergize with underutilized mechanics (like akiri/kydele investigate) is pretty interesting

>> No.72298962

>>72298952
Fuck off cancer partner faggot. Edh is one commander, and that commander is a creature, anything else is fucking clownery.

>> No.72298986

>>72298962
I mean if it's fun and not busted, who cares?

>> No.72298995

>>72298986
So then why do you trannies ban land destruction?

>> No.72299004

>>72298945
traditional is kind of joke, especially considering the word "traditional" and the timing of the introduction of mythics/introduction of planeswalkers/creation of modern. Tradition is a fundamentally shitty thing to strive or anyway anon, even if you were adhering to the buzzword.

>> No.72299017

>>72298986
Me. I care, because I'm very autistic.

>> No.72299022

>>72298995
land destruction isn't banned? I guess sundering titan is banned, but that's one card and it's not even a good one

>> No.72299036

>>72298995
>land destruction banned
What sort of clown world bullshit are you talking about?

>> No.72299073

>>72299017
You are not autistic. It is very reasonable to hate that which goes against everything magic stands for.

>> No.72299124

>>72299073
Commander is a casual fan-created format, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about

>> No.72299132

>>72298301
3 card magic is pretty fun, which is sort of the logical extreme of playing magic with stacked decks.

>> No.72299164

>>72299124
And it's not Magic

>> No.72299267

>>72299164
based

>> No.72299335

Dumbfuck format idea inspired by the "stack your deck", and taking it to the logical conclusion:
>Every instance of card draw instead a free tutor
>Cascade, "reveal top of library" effects, Ad Nauseam effects, play as normal (can't cascade into whatever you want)
Now obviously this format would be fucking broken and require banning certain combos to make it playable, but do you think it would still be fun to play? Would this require skill aside from simply owning the correct cards?

>> No.72299343

>>72299164
Edh, along with cube and pauper, is the last format that isn't fully raped by wotc, and no matter how much wotc fucks edh it'll be fine because it's a casual format with no established meta.

>> No.72299361

>>72299335
No and no

>> No.72299377

member when wotc banned cards in a timely manner
I member

>> No.72299395

>>72299377

>> No.72299403

>>72299395
Reminder that this banning took place FOUR DAYS after the set released.

>> No.72299415

>>72299377
Ahhhh Desire
I remember when busted cards were at least fun.

>> No.72299446

>>72299343
>Edh, along with cube and pauper, is the last format that isn't fully raped by wotc
>EDH isn't fully raped by WotC
the last time this was a true statement was, like, 2012. Fuck off, the yearly precons have fucking decimated EDH.

>> No.72299470

>>72299446
>What if you could play your commander without playing your commander?

>> No.72299498

>>72299164
If it bugs you, then don't play it and fuck off.
inb4 >b-but wizards has been designing for commander
then take it up with wizards you fucking cunt

>> No.72299525

>>72299343
gonna have to side with >>72299446 here. I kinda wish wizards would leave edh be for the most part, the more a corporation tries to identify with something fanmade, the less authentic it becomes.
I worry about pauper, because it's two things that wizards hates, affordable and non-rotating. At least there are people on the inside of wizards who like playing pauper, and they banned astrolabe.
Cube is and will always be safe though.

>> No.72299564

If there's anything this shitty meta helped to prove is that Humans will always be relevant, even if it might be tier 1.5 at times.

>> No.72299596

>>72299564
Outside of banning Vial or Cavern (which wotc will never do), there's nothing you can ban out of humans. It's nearly burn-tier resilient.

>> No.72299609

>>72295695
Dumn ADHD kid.

>> No.72299622

>>72298097
Variance requires skill to win in the long term. That's teh kind of game magic is.

>> No.72299624

>>72298462
MTG is too complex to do that, unironically.

>> No.72299637

>>72299395
>>72299403
Reminder that this was in a time where there wasn't half the population online at any given time to test out new cards and combos WotC can pretend they knew of afterwards

Maybe if they didn't release a gorillion products each year, that'd be different

>> No.72299673

>>72299596
You can ban ziggurat and unclaimed territory, those cards aren't played anywhere else and will disrupt their 5c plan, forcing humans to go 3 colors and losing anything between mantis rider, duress on a stick or meddling mage/reflector mage, the deck would also be forced into shocks/fetches making them take considerably more damage from themselves, it would be weaked quite a bit but still a good tribal deck.

>> No.72299685

>>72299673
>>72299596
Again with this shit? Why would you have to ban anything from Humans?

>> No.72299687

>>72299343
Rise and shine Anon

>> No.72299688

>>72299624
idk man computers are good at mtg too

>> No.72299715

>>72299596
I enjoy tribal decks, but Cavern is a very stupid card.

>> No.72299727

>>72299688
People have been programming supercomputers to learn chess for 30 years and still are only able to sometimes beat grandmasters, starcraft II neural network "Alphastar" still struggles in lower ranks and it's only advantage is having perfect micro (albeit capped to be human--like), MTG is far more complex than both games, the variables you have to included are infinite based on both chance and the situation you're in.

>>72299685
Humans is among the symptoms of the game being shit, 5c, consistent decks that don't have to pay a tax for going in 5 colors is a huge issue only overshadowed by wotc retardness of printing busted graveyard strategies and straight up overpowered cards.

>> No.72299729

>>72299688
You're mathematically wrong

>> No.72299749

>>72299673
Those cards will never be banned, humans isn't dominant enough to warrant it

>> No.72299759

>>72299727
Humans is a based, interactive aggro deck and clearly your ass is sore.

>> No.72299783

For me, it's a 60 Chancellor of the Dross deck.

>> No.72299912

Where the hell did Goldfish Breakdown go? I can't see the cards played by different decks anymore below the aggregate lists.

>> No.72299921

>>72299912
Goym stats are racist, you wouldn't discriminate against companions now, would you?

>> No.72299928

>>72299727
>5c, consistent decks that don't have to pay a tax for going in 5 colors
Yeah, they tax they have to pay instead is playing only one type and supertype. Oh no.

>> No.72299963

>>72299928
That's why they also run artifacts and instants, right? Don't open your mouth again, brainlet.

>> No.72300000

>>72299963
What instants does Humans run? Fuck off, retard.
Inb4 Dismember.

>> No.72300029

>>72299395
Why did gush get banned in pauper again? What deck brought it on?

>> No.72300037

>>72300029
They printed Foil as common and it went out of control. As always Wizards fucked it up.

>> No.72300131

So, let's sum this up.
Formats there obviously was no playtesting done for:
- Modern
- Legacy
- Vintage
- Standard

Which must mean that Ikoria is either a Pauper or EDH set.

>> No.72300238

>tfw no pitiless gf

>> No.72300256

Okay I haven't played magic since forever, is Ikoria allowed in modern?

>> No.72300266

>>72300256
It is, but it shouldn't be. Aside from Labyrinth Raptor and Lore Drakkis.

>> No.72300293

>>72300256
Magic is dead. Nothing is allowed in any format, because every format is dead.
get out while you can

>> No.72300320

>>72300131
Its an edh set. Not much usable for pauper here fortunately

>> No.72300418

>>72299715

Nope. It restricts decks harder than companions.

>> No.72300422

>>72299759

MEDDLING MAGE

>> No.72300462

>>72293109
I'm guessing control ? I don't mind honestly, I'll play anything

>> No.72300474

>>72298884
it is, lurrus is just pupetting it's corpse

>> No.72300478

>>72299727
grandmasters cannot reliably beat computers any more

>> No.72300484

>>72295695
this is what furries look like

>> No.72300518

>>72298606
molder slug ponza was the shit

>> No.72300526

>>72299164
*dabs*
>>72299343
oh, don't worry, the rape is already there and more is coming, you just haven't noticed

>> No.72300539

>>72300131
apparently they didn't test for limited either, looking at the reception

>> No.72300552

>>72300539
I honestly thought limited was fun though. Companion-ridden as all other formats, sure, but as all cycling formats, I found this one to be pretty good as well.

>> No.72300776

>>72300320
i dunno i like the cycling creatures, add in some payoff for having creatures in your graveyard and i think you could make a neat deck

>> No.72300832

>>72300474

Ban lurrus, unban opal

>> No.72300851

This WILL be banned.

>> No.72300871

will vial decks ever be good again with all the infinite value permanents being released these days?

>> No.72300891

>>72300851
YAMETE KURE

>> No.72301046

>>72299727
>People have been programming supercomputers to learn chess for 30 years and still are only able to sometimes beat grandmasters
You're living in the past, grandpa. Humans, even the top grandmasters, haven't been able to beat the chess computers in quite a while. The best they can hope for is a draw, probably by 3-fold repetition.

>> No.72301059

NO

>> No.72301066

>>72301059
GODDAMNIT WTF EVEN REEEEEEE

>> No.72301068

>>72301059
haha guess we won't have any data on Companions for a while, huh?

>> No.72301077

>>72300000

The one artifact they run makes every creature they have an instant, dipshit. Which is part of the problem of why spells on creatures is a bad idea.

>> No.72301089

>>72301068

haha yeah dont want to ban anything before we have hard facts haha

>> No.72301100

>>72301068
I just wanted to play with the goddamned cat a few times in paper before it was banned. Now I might not get to do that. I'm pretty pissed.

>> No.72301174

>>72300000
Quints of ABSOLUTE truth

>> No.72301189

>>72301059
Oh no, there will be no official data until june, goys!

Guess we can't do any drastic measures like bans in the meantime since we are an information and statistics driven company!

>> No.72301217

>>72301189
Fuck off with your antisemitic garbage.

>> No.72301281

>>72301217
reeeeee be nice to jews reeeeeee

>> No.72301298

>>72300552
cycling makes most formats better, but when I see limited fags complaining about companion it's easier to assume that they're right

>> No.72301317

why are so many cards going up in price despite the fact that no one can play rght now?

>> No.72301510

>>72301317
post-'rona speccing

>> No.72301535

How are they gonna top Companions, Oko, and Hogaak?

>> No.72301540

>>72301317

Hahahaha wut

>> No.72301566

>>72301077
>problem
That is your, uneducated, opinion. Now bend over, the rapetrain is coming.

>> No.72301567

>>72301535
Companion delve Teferi in the core set.
Mythic mythic rarity lands in Zendikar.

>> No.72301573

>>72301535

1g/wr/b summon human cat wizard elf demon 5/5 flying first strike trample when ~ enters the battlefield or dies draw 2 cards, can't attack unless opponent controls 3 non-basic lands

>> No.72301586

>>72301535
"Peepee of Ugin"

Tribal Legendary Land - Eldrazi

Companion - Your deck contains only colorless cards

Colorless Eldrazi spells you cast cost 3 less to cast.

"You're gonna need at least four planeswalkers for this one."

>> No.72301601

>>72301317
The day Chrome Mox was more expensive than Black Lotus.

>> No.72301609

>>72301317
FUCKING FINALLY I CAN BUY A LAMBORGHINI WITH MY PLYSET OF MOXES

>> No.72301611

>This guy enters the battlefield on turn 2 on the play, and wants to look at your girlfriend's hand
What do you do?

>> No.72301634

>>72301586
>Tribal legendary land
Even as an Eldrazi purist, this scares me

>> No.72301636

>>72301609
>>72301317
>>72301540
>>72301510
ATTENTION EVERYONE THE FOIL CHROME MOX IS STILL ONLY 85 BUCKS EVERYONE GO BUY AS MANY AS POSSIBLE IMMEDIATELY IT'S GONNA BE 200K IN NO TIME GUARANTEED

>> No.72301639

>>72301611
>r-resolves

>> No.72301685

>>72301535

tri-color fetches
2 mana tefari

>> No.72301701

>>72301639
t. mutt

>> No.72301703

>>72301685
We're going to get "Teferi, Disruptive Student," aren't we?

>> No.72301730

>>72301535
Companion adventure delve escape je ne sais quoi passive ability planeswalker featuring Bant Teferi

>> No.72301751

Honestly Companions should have escape, they feel a bit underpowered like this, there are still some decks that don't use them. What do you people say?

>> No.72301779

>>72301751
Yeah Lurrus should just read "when you cast this spell, jump the table and anally rape your opponent until they pass out." Think that might give them a certain kind of je ne sais quoi.

>> No.72301790

>>72301751

just turn them into commanders at this point, return to the companion zone, companion tax etc etc

>> No.72301810

>>72301779
Good idea! It would help a great deal to combat the rampant transphobia and antisemitism in the magic community.
>>72301790
Companion tax is unfun, when they die they should go into exile and then you can cast them for escape for zero cards.

>> No.72301842

>>72301751
>>72301790
>>72301810
Companion. Eminence.

>> No.72301847

>>72301703
inb4 they try a "fixed" version of the great whale esque cards

>> No.72301851

>>72301611

KNEEL

>> No.72301861

>>72301851
*taps cavern of souls*
So, TKS resolves?

>> No.72301967

>>72301861
>"i'd like to resolve ceremonious rejection after you announce the spell but before you pay its cost"

>> No.72301985

>>72301967

>> No.72302030

>>72301967
Oh I wasn't planning on resolving it. I was just leaving it on the stack for later.

>> No.72302031

>>72301861

>turn 2
>4 drop with one cavern

what meme list are you running

>> No.72302044

>>72302031
SSG

>> No.72302063

>>72302031
Gemstone Caverns

>> No.72302130

>>72293587
No, I'd rather WotC forget that Kamigawa even existed, pretty much every Return to X set has destroyed everything interesting about the plane.

>> No.72302259

>>72293736
>using mtggoldfish meta shares

>> No.72302294

>>72302030
based & kept on the stack pilled

>> No.72302314

>>72302130
this. The recent obsession of normos with Kamigawa will destroy the plane
I better by a full set before they ruin it with shit art and the OG becomes absurdly expensive, unless it's already too late

>> No.72302330

>>72301967
can you even do that?

>> No.72302341

>>72302330
Try it at your next tournament

>> No.72302350

>>72302330
t.has never eaten a card

>> No.72302435

>>72302330
never gonna make it

>> No.72302565

>>72300776
there is, search Caleb Gannon
>songs of the damned
>get mana
>Reaping the Graves
>get cyclers back
>cycle further
as long as the ping/cycle is in play, it's possible to win this way

>> No.72302723

>>72301611
sauce on the art?

>> No.72302900

>>72302330
When you make an illegal play you have to ask yourself the following:
- does your opponent know it's illegal?
- is there a judge watch the game?
- if so is the judge one of your friends?
Anything can be legal under the right circumstances, it's all relative.
>>72302435
This guy is an impostor.

>> No.72302931

How many cards can a man eat in one GP before it presents a health hazard?

>> No.72302933

I'd love to see the design notes for lurrus.
Do you guys think they'll include them in the inevitable article banning him after they ban bauble and petal?

>> No.72302952

>>72302931
Depends on if they're foil.

>> No.72302966

>>72302931
I don't think they're toxic, so whatever quantity would be enough to clog his digestive system.
I'd say at least 2 dozen before any serious issues begin to arise, depending on how they're cooked, how well the fellow chews, etc.

>> No.72302977

>>72302933

Anything other than "breach on a stick" is bullshit

>> No.72302978

>>72302933
I can't remember if it was MaRo who said this but they were originally going to have higher cmc and someone convinced him it would be more exciting to have them at lower cost.

>> No.72303004

>>72302978
Poe's Law in action here, this is completely ridiculous but at the same time very believable.

>> No.72303006

>>72302900
don't trust this guy
>>72302931
speaking from personal experience, between two and three 60 card decks, depending on the number of sleeves and the brand. I'm a big fan of the taste of eclipses

>> No.72303008

>>72302978
>Hey wouldn't it be more F.I.R.E. if they were competitively costed so they could be stronger?
>You're a genius Gottlieb, lets make them all competitive playable. Timmy will LOVE it.

Based saboteur destroying Wizards from the inside.

>> No.72303022

>>72302933
they didn't show the notes for oko so I doubt it'll be different for lurrus, most likely because they include shit like "this should be pushed" or some shit

>> No.72303025

>>72302900

holy based

>> No.72303073

>>72302931

>> No.72303085

Do you guys think that WotC card designers are just bored?
As in, they're tired of attempting to make balanced designs and just want to play with ridiculous shit without regard for the design of the rest of the game?

>> No.72303107

>>72302978
I remember MaRo himself writing in an article or blogatog post or something about this; that he sent it to Play Design worried that it might be broken, and they sent it back saying they could be pushed further and have lower costs.

>> No.72303113

>>72303085
no
I'd attribute it to incompetence, malice and greed in some balance

>> No.72303118

>>72302933
The initial design was actually amazing and perfectly balanced, but unfortunately the notes got eaten so they had to wing it for the final version.

>> No.72303180

>>72303085
>first playtest team chimps out and writes an entire paragraph on a mirror using lipstick
>second playtest team is either illiterate or builds shitty decks, maybe both

>> No.72303183

So I'm almost 2 decades out of the loop for MtG and wanted a little recommendation. I'm slowly reading up on the plainswalkers and wanted to put together Angrath's crew for a D&D campaign.

Can I get more functional detail about him from the card blurbs/flavor text or the books worth it? I'm still not too familiar with the Planeswalkers otherwise, but I keep seeing some badass art of this flaming minotaur pirate. /shrug

>> No.72303185

>>72303118
>the notes got eaten
When they released Skullclamp and then banned it and released the notes to explain how it happened, that was actually kind of cool. "We made a mistake, sorry, here's how it happened so both you and us can learn about not to repeat it." That's a cool move.

Nowadays admitting you made a mistake is "uncool" and "chewing out your coworkers that fucked up" so shit gets swept under the rug and everyone pretends nothing is wrong, and if shit gets banned then we never get an explaination about it since everyone has to pretend everything's all right and no one made any mistake at any point, so no one learns anything, so they keep repeating mistakes again and again and again.

Fuck this shit. Wizards used to be cool. Now they're a bunch of corporate bootlickers that don't even like their consumers.

>> No.72303188

>>72302330
>>72303025
And don't forget, with enough practice you too can be World Champion one day. But you'll have to wait until I retire because no one beats me at sleights of hand or has more judge friends than me ;^)

>> No.72303196

>>72303183
https://scryfall.com/search?q=angrath+or+ft%3Aangrath&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name

>> No.72303215

>>72302978
>>72303107
>g-guys we made this card but watch out because it might be too powerful
>nah we can power it up
>maro receives countless mails of people angry at companions
Honestly can you imagine how pissed Maro must be right now?

>> No.72303240

>>72303183
He accidentally Planeswalked onto Ixalan, which had an artifact, called the Immortal Sun, blocking all Planeswalkers from leaving. He was pretty pissed about not being able to return to his family, so he started wrecking as much shit as he could. At some point he fought Huatli, and they sort of became rivals. Eventually the Immortal Sun was removed from Ixalan and Angrath was able to leave dino-Mexico. Shortly after returning home, he was dragged to Ravnica by Bolas, who had placed the Immortal Sun on Ravnica this time. Angrath was, once more, stranded on a foreign world. You can imagine how that went.

>> No.72303247

>>72303183
https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Angrath
here's legit everything we know about him. He's shown up in like 2 stories I think. Minor character at best.

>> No.72303254

>>72303215
I'm surprised he's not angry all the time, he basically spends hours each day reading absolutely retarded questions and doing unpaid overtime as a PR person

>> No.72303260

>>72303183
MTG story is trash. I think they're not releasing books anymore, only short stories, everything should be on Magic's website.

>> No.72303264

>>72303240
>Supposed to be art of an angry inferno minotaur destroying shit in a fit of rage
>Looks like a dude at a fucking rave
I hate modern MTG art.

>> No.72303272

>>72303260
They just released an Ikoria book, Sundered Bond.

>> No.72303291

>>72303247
>trapped on Ixalan for 14 years
>gets trapped on Ravnica again
>Huatli makes fun of him for it
What a cunt. I now like her even less than I thought was possible.

>> No.72303299

>>72303264
>>Looks like a dude at a fucking rave
Kek, thanks for summing up my feeling.

>> No.72303311

>>72303291
All planeswalkers are unlikeable cunts these days. It's a trademark of incompetent writers.

>> No.72303357

>>72303185
yep

>> No.72303375

>>72303311
>implying planeswalkers haven't been unlikeable cunts this entire time
Have you not been paying attention or are you just a literal psychopath?

>> No.72303376

>>72302933
D I R G E
B A T

>> No.72303389

>>72303375
Urza was the right kind of loveable "destroys entire planes and oopsie doodle doos entire species then fucks off without saying sorry" asshole though.

>> No.72303412

>>72303389
Is he tho? He just seems like a fucking cunt.

>> No.72303428

>>72303412
Oh he was, but he was a cunt of such epic proportions that nobody in the multiverse can even compare. Which makes him just wonderful.

>> No.72303454

>>72303412
>”I’d be happy to stop contradicting you Urza, as soon as you stop being a cunt” -Some sick cunt named Bo

>> No.72303471

>>72303376
>6cmc Heros Downfall thats sets you up to get 2 for 1'd
lol it could have been Maelstrom or Void and it would still be shit

>> No.72303480

>>72303376
well it seems like this more or less confirms that the very small amount of testing that they do is confined to limited

>> No.72303507

>>72303260
the opposite, there is no more free stories on the mtg website, everything is now in paywalled books or set details

>> No.72303544

>>72303376
Imagine being in play design and discussing this card more than an entirely batshit insane new type of cards that wrap the whole game around them from day1 on

>Mft when whilst typing this I realized Ikoria is still young and there could even be more broken/exploitive companion combos out there
Hold me

>> No.72303550

>>72303471
>black bat
>killing creatures each time it mutate
>in the same set than death corona
nothing to see here goyim, pure cohencidence

>> No.72303553

>>72303291
>tfw we will never get a story where angrath pins down huatli and teaches her some manners with his big minotaur cock

>> No.72303557

>>72303412
Planeswalkers were assholes by design. Not all of them were as cuntish as Urza, but the writers back then took the multiverse & PWs to their logical conclusion, ie a dark jungle; there's tons of more powerful entities out there in the multiverse, and so the first moron to attract attention to himself will get raped & drained of his power to fuel some other arrogant oldwalker coming in to slap his shit. If you didn't have powers, you spent your life hiding from more powerful PWs because they would 100% track you down to use your spark in their latest dragon engine (see the poor fucks that urza comes across when he's on the hiding from phyrexia with Xantcha iirc)

>> No.72303568

>>72303471
It’s okay in Standard and I don’t mind cards like this. It’s not shit. You can’t have your cake and eat it too, you can have well-balanced cards or pushed bullshit, and let me be clear that pissbat is balanced.

>> No.72303623

>>72303471
KILLING TIMMY'S CREATURES IS BAD
WE SHOULD DISCUSS IF THIS CARD'S MUTATE SHOULD BE 5 OR 6 COST BECAUSE PLAYERS WHO PLAY THIS WILL MAKE TIMMY FEEL BAD AND WE CAN'T HAVE THAT

LURRUS? YORION? GYRUDA? LOWER THEM COSTS, THEY'RE FINE.

>> No.72303645

>>72303550
never5get

>> No.72303648

>>72303544
brotip: it’s the cat tribal enabler

>> No.72303676

>>72303376
>The most discussed card of the set that broke literally every format was about how to nerf an unplayable draft chaff

Bravo wotc.

>> No.72303815

>>72303676
They can't get more clowny, really.

>> No.72303874

>>72303676
Eh, it's standard playable imo, but it's still a fucking joke that they didn't spend the same time on companions.

>> No.72303912

>>72303676
>companions get barley any time
>worked and reworked a shitty 6 mana nekratal
We're fucked arent we?

>> No.72304019

Even tho companions are the most legit concern, it seems everybody totally forgot they literally printed the biggest storm enabler ever.
You can even put a copy in sb you can fetch up with glittering wish so you run 7 copies.
If the frens remember i posted a list few weeks ago and i get pretty gud results with it.

>> No.72304070

>>72303471
>>72303376
Jesus.

>> No.72304073

>>72304019
>4 mana do nothing storm enabler
I'll have to pack some serious enchantment hate in my EDH decks now

>> No.72304101

>>72304073
>win you the game the second it hit the board
>do nothing
ok

>> No.72304125

>>72304019
This is actually fine because while strong and pushed is still 4 mana do nothing. If you want to build around this card and you manage to play it and still win turn 5, then your opponent deserves it for not interrupting it and not killing you fast enough

>> No.72304187

>>72304125
You really need to give the card a try if you think it kill by turn5 at best, because it's a T3 win usually.

>> No.72304229

>>72304125
>If you want to build around this card and you manage to play it and still win turn 5
do you actually not know what ramp is?

>> No.72304243

>>72304101
>4 mana actually does absolutely nothing when it hits the board and requires you to cast more spells
show me your storm list with this thing

>> No.72304271

>>72304229
>storm
>ramping
electromancer and baral don't reduce the cost of this

>> No.72304318

>>72304271
for fuck sake obviously you are running Song in a deck that fucking supports it you moron
For example, a deck running a Companion

>> No.72304350

>>72304229
>3 colors so LED doesn't work
>Rituals only ramp into R
>Maybe Manamorphose to cast into G and U
>Storming and drawing cards means ramp, aka 1/3 or 1/4 of your deck becomes useless, making you brick more often.

It's literally easier to stick a Baral and combo on the same turn.

>> No.72304705

>>72303676
Hey its a pretty good limited card

>> No.72304718

>>72304705
it's a 3/3 with flying for 2BB. Mutate is crap.

>> No.72304728

>>72303471
Yeah but flash saves it. Its decent in a slow environment like limited

>> No.72304761

>>72304718
Im talking about limited. Its good there

>> No.72304776

>>72304761
So am I.

>> No.72304835

>>72304776
Mutate is decent in such an environment. Bat is middling but still you can get to flash it eot and then on your turn mutate something else and get almost immediate value

>> No.72304875

>>72303544
RECKLESS WAIF IS DEFINITELY THE CARD TO WORRY ABOUT FROM INNISTRAD

>> No.72304894

>>72304875
I mean, they were right that the 1/1 that transformed into a 3/2 was THE card to worry about from Innistrad.

>> No.72304900

>>72304875
CABAL THE RAPIST IS GOING TO DEFINE MODERN. PUTTING MENACE ON IT MIGHT HAVE PUSHED IT OVER THE LINE, IT CAN ACTUALLY ATTACK!

>> No.72304916

>>72304875
>>72304894
>>72304900
mmm I don't know how these cards ever got printed. they don't feel rare to me at all.

>> No.72304972

>>72304875
>>72304900
idk man i think kird ape is what pushes it over the line for me.

>> No.72305025

>>72304916
>cabal therapy that wins you the game
I dunno anon, it still doesn't feel rare to me

>> No.72305039

Post quarantine music, friends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEpfvTdR5-U
I only wanted an excuse to share how qt Curt Smith's daughter is. Goddammit she's exactly the kind of girl I like.

>> No.72305040

>>72304019
I can't stand wotc printing all of that owling mine hate, the deck already had issues dealing with storm

>> No.72305046

>>72305025
>T3 Therapy that always requires you to sac a creature
Woah.

>> No.72305051

>>72305025
still needs a certain gen-ne-se-qoi

>> No.72305082

>>72305039
you got it buddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXLqw4UpJ1w

>> No.72305090

>>72305039
>Tears for Fears
Absolutely based and one of the best pop acts of the era, probably only behind Talking Heads. Good taste.

>Post quarantine music, friends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyGmGRNO37Y

I know this isn't /mu/, but if anyone has any requests / genres they want to get into, I am a gold mine of recommendations. Now's your chance!

>> No.72305105

>>72305090
how about k-pop

>> No.72305117

>>72305090
Jazz

>> No.72305144

>>72305105
>k-pop recs

Okie dokie, if that's what you want;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6JaZvUa1NY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dab4EENTW5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyInv6RWL0Q

>> No.72305181

Watched someone play Oboro Ponza earlier, deck looked solid. It was just normal Ponza but with Oboro, basically. The deck was always 8-10 dorks then straight into 3 mana stuff so whatever. Klothys dealing double was pretty sweet.

>> No.72305214

>>72305117
>Jazz
Massively diverse genre, here's a variety of choice cuts;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgNfOW5yb-I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIqXprCArdo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZQj6uBPK6c

>> No.72305223

>>72305117
Not him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHVlv-Ns9pI
I had this set as my phone ringtone but that made me only hate it, then I changed it and now I can listen to it again.
Also Quantic playlist. Unfortunately some an in low quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHkN1QsRja8&list=PL4CLECFhRgS6e9mCb2B4GDbGu4N0fdytY&index=2&t=0s

>> No.72305274

>/mmg/ - modern music general

>> No.72305282

>>72305274
trueeeeeee

>> No.72305289

>>72305214
>>72305223
Thank you anons, I appreciate your recommendations.

>> No.72305309

>>72305289
Don't forget to check out Sun Ra and Charles Mingus!

>> No.72305328

>>72305090
I love Tears for Fears but right now I only wanted to post that qt3.14.
>>72305289
This is my favourite from the playlist but I love all of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1qTRHGqaQI
You could easily put this baby in a house set. Amazing piece.

>> No.72305396

This never fails to relax me, I enjoy to listen to it on the bed in the dark. It's the guys who made Herzog's soundtracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vhht487PwQ

>> No.72305409

>>72303376
I'm surprised they even knew Void was a card

>> No.72305559

>>72305409
I can't wait for the Macross crossover after Godzilla :^)
I just hope best girl Misa will have her own card.

>> No.72305590

>>72305559
>implying
if by some freak miracle there is a macross crossover you will have ranka lee on your cards, nerd

>> No.72305638

>>72305559

I'm pretty sure if there is ever is a "Mecha" crossover" thing it will be Gundam or Transformers. Macross is just too small

>> No.72305668

>>72305638
>Macross is just too small
it may be small, but its the best

>> No.72305680

>>72305668

being the best doesnt ship packs sadly

>> No.72305696

>>72305638
>Gundam
I wouldnt complain though I doubt we would get english cards or any of the good Gundam shows

>> No.72305698

>>72305680
>being the best doesnt ship packs sadly
>Champions of Kamigawa sold poorly
damn...

>> No.72305706

>>72305590
>you will have ranka lee on your cards, nerd
NOOOOOOOO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EVERYTHING BUT RANKA AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>72305638
No one but burgers care about Transformers. Gundam is for fatties that glue kits. Macross has idols and shit, it's the one with the widest appeal.

>> No.72305715

>>72305696
>Today Wizards is proud to announce a new line of promo cards!
>We will be featuring the depictions of creatures from the popular show, Gundam SEED!

>> No.72305719

>Implying mecha isn't a dead genre
Macross is literally adrift with absolutely no direction and Gundam keeps doubling down on marketing itself increasingly towards literal 12 year olds. The last original mecha series was Granbelm which was an abysmal flop

>> No.72305726

>>72305039
raise your voices for the Wotc anthem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-BYzaDwNoE

>> No.72305743

Even now I smile when I remember how Ranka was dumped in front of literally the entire galaxy.

>> No.72305772

>>72305743
>literally wearing a broken heart
lmfao

>> No.72305811

>>72305715
Featuring Oko, Thief of Crowns as Kira Yamato!

>> No.72305853 [SPOILER] 

>>72305715
I'd still play SEED cards

>> No.72305860

>>72305715
>Gundam SEED
I'm sorry for the gundamfags.
>>72305743
>now sing bitch
Honestly they should just go with Plus even though SDF has pretty iconic characters.
>>72305811
Top kek.
That shit would sell like hotcakes in Japan no doubt.

>> No.72305868

>/mmg/ - mehca magic general

>> No.72305881

Wasn't Gundam 00 pretty successful? We could get Patrick as Norin the Wary

>> No.72305900

>>72305868
truee

>> No.72306010

>tfw MTG sucks so much now that we'd all rather spend the threads shitposting about anime and music
godspeed, anons. These are dark times....

>> No.72306056

>>72306010
I thought the same, until I realized that, with the current worldwide mood being pretty grumpy and mtg players especially are fucking livid, a break of off-topic shitposting might give us some respite.

>> No.72306061

>>72306010
/mmg/ reaches it's peak every time when we're not actually discussing magic (ie, when modern/magic is dying)
Makes me sad to think the last time was during the january bannings, usually it's longer between each time

>> No.72306062

magical girl sailor moon box toppers when?

>> No.72306086

>>72306062
as soon as I hit the lottery and buy WotC

>> No.72306096

>>72306056
good on ya anon

>> No.72306127

>>72306062
Gib Sailor Mars. The black hair and long legs made me feel all funny as a young lad.

>> No.72306155

>>72306062
>sailor scouts in swimsuits abusing Serena
anon p- pls i can only t-take so much

>> No.72306363

>>72304916
they definitely lack a certain je ne sais quoi

>> No.72306449

>>72305181
>Oboro
it's obosh dude, and desu it's the most ""underrated"" companion, neoponza will poke holes in the meta thanks to him, ft bonecrusher. To the nogs believing it wasn't worth losing W6 for obosh : HAHAHA

>> No.72306538

>>72306449
The fun thing is WAR domri is way better than W6 for any creature-heavy ponza list, and he cost 3, so that's perfect.

>> No.72306657

>>72306449
I was trying to sell Primal Command to a streamer on Obosh Ponza but he said it sucked. Stupid poopy head.

>> No.72306930

>>72306449
list ? I've always wanted a reason to play ponza and obosh might be enough to actually buy the cards

>> No.72307146

Bring your anger of the gods tomorrow guys tribal cats is the best deck in Modern
>wild nacatl, loam lion, savannah lion, steppe lynx, scythe leopard, leonin vanguard

>> No.72307184

>>72306930
20-21 lands
8-10 dorks (4 Arbor Elf, 4 Sprawl are core)

4 Blood Moon/Magus of the Moon
3-4 Stone Rain/Pillage

Then like whatever R/G grindy or powerful cards you want, such as:

>Bolt
>Tireless Tracker
>Kitchen Finks
>Klothys
>Glorybringer
>Stormbreath Dragon
>Bonfire of the Damned
>Primal Command
>Bonecrusher Giant
>Thragtusk
>Hexdrinker

Deck is super flexible, it's just ramping into disruption, then whatever haymakers you want.

>> No.72307208

>>72307146
while anyone playing nacatl is based, the simple fact of being a catfag is dishonorable. Not playing Lurrus redeems you somewhat tho

>> No.72307254

The pretty cards have started to arrive today!

>> No.72307308

>>72307208
>not playing mommy
Disgraceful. But if you’re playing adoptive mommy then you’re still based

>> No.72307321

>>72302978
Im honestly glad. The companions feel very je ne sai qua right now

>> No.72307572

>>72307559
>>72307559
>>72307559
>>72307559
>>72307559

NEW BREAD

>> No.72307641

>>72307254
by far the most kino plains
Just got my set of foil Bdruids on the cheap yesterday, finally completing my foil pure snow list without prismatic vistas, they'll come when I actually have money

>> No.72307873

>>72299004
Yeah but it rhymes with Chad so you can say "Tradchads".

>> No.72307929

>>72300418
>laughs in Primeval Titan decks with not a single shared creature type but still being able to clone Caverns or use them as one-shot casts or bounce to reuse them

>> No.72307945

Reminder to join EXPAND DONG tournament on 05-02 8PM UTC.

>> No.72307957

>>72307641
Pretty!
A shame about the symbol on the bottom left, though ;)

>> No.72308155

>>72302044
what is ssg

>> No.72308324

What a miserable time to come back to modern with 8rack.

>> No.72308513

>>72299395
This is a bit different since it Storm was obviously pretty insane in a format with free spells, undercosted stuff and fast mana. There were still changes to Storm decks later, even after restricting Desire.

>> No.72308621

>>72303185

haha no way that happens ha ha

>> No.72308674

>>72308155
star sity games

>> No.72308762

>>72301217
Fuck off Jew lover

>> No.72308785

Are Ultra-Pro mats still made in the United States? I know they were about 5 years ago, but are they still making them there today?

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