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[ERROR] No.71375413 [Reply] [Original] [4plebs] [archived.moe]

Really?

Just looks like a big black blob to me.

>> No.71375469

>>71375413

Sometimes big is just better.

>> No.71375500

>>71375413
>Stream of casings coming out the guns to indicate high RoF
This needs some kind of effect part to show the muzzle flash.

>> No.71375522

>>71375413
You might need glasses anon, even without zooming in there's plenty of stuff to break up the black.

>> No.71375551

>>71375413
Don't like the ammo discharge direction, especially for the lower fight gun, but that should be a simple enough fix via cutting and rotating

>> No.71375729

>>71375551
I'think it's that they are too regular; makes them look more like ammobelts than spent casings.

>> No.71375730

>>71375413
wat an absolute unit

>> No.71375782

>>71375729
true; but fotunately they're optional and you can give the gun smoking barrels instead

>> No.71375840

Based Ghaz. Also it comes with two head options to make him look left or right

>tfw I magnetize the head and swap it right for shooting phase and left for Krumpin phase.

>> No.71375897

>>71375500
It can be built with smoke coming out of the barrels

>> No.71375921

>>71375897
I usually don't like smoke effects, but these look ok.

>> No.71375994

needs more dakka

>> No.71376116

Only complaint I got is that his klaw has four digits instead of three.

it kind of takes away from the iconic ork big hand design, makes it look more like non-ork big hand designs

But on the other hand, it does make him stand out

>> No.71376145

>>71376116
its a relic tier weapon, it should be distinctive

>> No.71376150

>>71376145
it oughta be orkier as well, being biggerer oughta be enough

>> No.71376182

>>71376116
I personally never understood why Orks of all things use klaws. If anyone should be using fist weapons, it should be Orks.

>> No.71376189

>>71375413
tiny head with that huge ironjaw looks weird.

>> No.71376198

>>71376182
cause klaws are fists but choppy

>> No.71376205

>>71375413
The rounded plates look like smeg trash. Same with the head.

>> No.71376209

>>71376182
Pretty sure the lore is that they're repurposed industrial equipment.

>> No.71376217

>>71376189
looks propa

>> No.71376238

>>71375413
It feels like the modern Warhammer design was outsourced to Asians or Indians.
You can feel their inordinate art style - and it is not racism.

>> No.71376285

>>71376238
Looks more like an attempt to infuse some wayne England early 90s 2000AD angular style into it

>> No.71376307

gotta stick Makari on his shoulders rather than as a separate mini

>> No.71376341

Looks worse than the russian one they copied

>> No.71376349

>>71376238
>inordinate art
you mean fucking 40k?
solidified by Adrian Smith and Karl Kopinski where it's weird proportioned ugly men with details upon details slapped and carved together?

>> No.71376358

>>71376341
lolno

>> No.71376378

>>71376341
that's reaching hard

>> No.71376382

>>71376217
nah, Orcs tend to somewhat retain their proportions as they grow.
The head being so small (accentuated by the jaw) makes it hard to believe there's such a huge body attached.
it's like those artworks of Marines that make the armour look way to huge for there to be a body inside.

>> No.71376387

>>71376341
I know you shill that thing constantly but the proportion of that boss are not of a 40k ork.
On top of that, the model suffers from the same problems of the GW one.

>> No.71376390

>>71376349
more wayne england, again

>> No.71376410

>>71376341
Anon

Did you fail art in grade school?
Adults should have some level of understanding of what a stylistic copy looks like but it seems to me like you think any two big creatures with tiny heads must be the same

>> No.71376414

>>71376382
>tend to somewhat
lol, nice noncomittal bullshit way of saying "you're right but I feel differently from what is right"

>> No.71376420

>>71376382
Wasn't Ghaz beheaded and his head stitched to a different body? Look at his neck

>> No.71376425

>>71375413
I like the upper horns and the small claw in the palm but yeah, beside that I'm not really feeling it.

>> No.71376429

>>71376341
N-N-NO B-BAKA!!
Daddy GW sculpts 35 years in advance haha?!!!! Totally not copied, like they totally not copied creature casters!!!

Consoooooooooom Gw's cum and STFU

>> No.71376446

I bet he looks much better facing left.

>> No.71376457

I fucking wish the Swarmlord got this treatment instead of just being a head and four arms in the regular Tyrant kit

Oh, and I wish he had a completely different fluff as well

>> No.71376579

>>71376349
>Adrian Smith and Karl Kopinski
>Wayne England
In their art feel a certain balance between realism and pathos, in the end it looks strict and gloomy - I love it.

But when I look at modern Warhammer - I see influence of fuckin anime.
Which is not surprising, since the Asian market is larger and has its own preferences - hail to money.

>> No.71376601

>>71376382
>makes it hard to believe there's such a huge body attached.
>it's like those artworks of Marines that make the armour look way to huge for there to be a body inside.
then why not just fucking look at his arms and legs? They aren't fully encased. You can see that they are big as he can be.
He's a big ass guy even without the armor

>> No.71376620

>>71375413
There's already a thread about this, you fucking mouthbreather.

>> No.71376643

>>71376579
>But when I look at modern Warhammer - I see influence of fuckin anime.
>Which is not surprising, since the Asian market is larger and has its own preferences - hail to money.
you are retarded as fuck if you think WH makes big money in Asia.
Also show me any anime which has influence on Ghaz. Give me a single fucking weeb influence with image.

>> No.71376677

>>71376238
Yes. It's an inscrutable kind of rot, but rot it is

>> No.71376697

>>71376579
>In their art feel a certain balance between realism and pathos,
oh yeah man get a load of that healthy dose of realism, that subtle, measured middle ground between two extremes

Totally not a full-blown cartoonish caricature like 80% of his art

>> No.71376702

>>71376579
The pernicious influence of the Bamboo Curtain is infecting British culture. We once owned them.

>> No.71376714

>>71376643
More anger, child.
In five years, you will be admiring anime gretchin schoolboys and asking for more.

>> No.71376720

>>71376601
They are there, yes, but the proportions are so far removed from even Nobz and Warbosses it stops looking like an Ork alltogether.It's closer to a Dark Eldar Grotesque.

If the arms and legs weren't exposed, you'd think it was a regular sized ork inside a Killa Kan

>> No.71376748

>>71376238
>A company that still insists on having their main factory in the UK
>Outsourcing design work
You are a special kind of retarded

>> No.71376763

>>71376714
>>71376702
>>71376579

OOOH REALISM AND PATHOS, TASTEFULLY BALANCED IN PERFECT HARMONY, NEITHER SWAYING THIS WAY NOR THAT, THE VERY EMBODIMENT OF CLASSICAL IDEALS.

UNLIKE THE PERNICIOUS ANIME GHAZKULL AND HIS GROTESQUE, CARD CAPTOR SAKURA-LIKE PROPORTIONS

>> No.71376766

>>71375413
>I may have gone to far in a few places...

>> No.71376785

>>71376766
no

>> No.71376810

>>71376429
This is getting kinda sad

>> No.71376811

>>71376748
The main thing is to continue to believe that money has a homeland.

>> No.71376830

>>71376714
ah, so you are just retarded.
I was foolish to take the bait

>> No.71376851

The head isn't big enough.

>> No.71376871

>>71376811
>MONEY IS IN ANIME CHING CHONG LAND, THAT'S WHY GHAZ LOOKS LIKE BECKY FROM PANI PONI DASH!
>but also money doesn't have a homeland

>> No.71376873

>>71376811
Listen, I know people want to assume that because GW Bad, they do all the bad things, but they have a pretty consistent set of ideas they operate on, like the whole "Minis first, rules second" that CAUSE GW Bad.

Unless you want to believe that they're rich enough to bribe whoever makes sure they don't defraud their investors, the fact of the matter is that GW only outsources manufacturing of some things to china. That's it.

>> No.71376902

>>71376830
dude
he's either retarded, in which case it's not bait, or it is bait, in which case he's merely pretending to be retarded

I know /tg/ has this fucking habit of misusing memes (like saying "waifu" to mean "cute girl" instead of "fictional crush") but get your shit together, bait does not mean "statement that makes me angery" it means "disingenuous statement that is designed to make me angery"

>> No.71376928

>>71376873
You can shit on GW for many things but you have to respect the fact that they did not close their manufacture in the UK.

>> No.71376965

>>71375413
Only issue is that the head is a bit small, otherwise its gorgeous

>> No.71376976

>>71376928
Not only did they not close it, they're opening a second factory.
Brits should be sucking their peckers for being one of the few companies trying to manufacture goods in their home country

>> No.71376989

>>71376349
>you mean fucking 40k?
>solidified by Adrian Smith and Karl Kopinski where it's weird proportioned ugly men with details upon details slapped and carved together?
I never thought their art was bad.
Give a list of WH artists that meet your preferences.

>> No.71376990

>>71376720
>If the arms and legs weren't exposed, you'd think it was a regular sized ork inside a Killa Kan
No? Have you seen their dreads and kans? They are spindly limbed things. They are like crabs in proportion. Gaz's limbs are way too thick, even without muscles exposed, it would make sense that it would be an armor where limbs would fit in.
>They are there, yes, but the proportions are so far removed from even Nobz and Warbosses it stops looking like an Ork alltogether.It's closer to a Dark Eldar Grotesque.
He's got a huge claw, bun and feet, all mechanical extremities. His core proportion is fine.

There's plenty of things to criticize on the model both technically and artistically, but proportion is fucking dumb

>> No.71377068

Don't know anything about 40k: can Orks get out of these suits? Do they need to eat and shit and reproduce or do they just exist and kill things?

>> No.71377089

Too blobby for me, i prefer the old one.

>> No.71377096

>>71376989
I like Karl Kopinski and Adrian Smith.
I just find the notion that 40k art has gotten worse because cluttering of design from Asian art is fucking retarded as if 40k wasn't already about cluttered and ornate detail frenzy.

>> No.71377129

>>71377068
They can get out usually but they don't.

>> No.71377139

>>71377068
>can Orks get out of these suits? Do they need to eat and shit and reproduce or do they just exist and kill things?
1. Maybe, if they care to.
2. reproduction's done passively and asexually, they do eat and shit, but I'm not sure if they care.
3 Yes, they do basically exist to kill things. They are basically a race engineered to be a warmachine and nothing else.

>> No.71377160

>>71375413
Looks like AoS bulky orruk.

>> No.71377163

>>71377068
>can Orks get out of these suits
yes
>Do they need to eat
yes
>shit
yes, they have pits with dedicated squigs BTW
>reproduce
They reproduce by dying.
The great thing about 40k Orks is that their.. "orcitude" makes sense. This orkness is justified by a society that thrive and expands after violent and needs no family interaction. They are like parthenogenetic females but with the outward appearance and behaviour of the masculine without a long term creative pursuit.

>> No.71377169

>>71377139
to protect hallucinogenic mushroom crops, actually

>> No.71377185

>>71377160
pretty great

>> No.71377206

>>71377185
No warhammer soul.

>> No.71377217

>>71377206
that's what Makari is for

>> No.71377274

>>71377160
The hell? Looks like a 40K one that would have been stripped of his dakka..

>> No.71377287

>>71376990
>His core proportion is fine.
I honestly disagree.

>> No.71377327

>>71377287
They look about the same as the speedboss, but with a tinier head.

>> No.71377377

>>71377287
>I'm purposefully draw the head's outline to go inside the head to make it smaller than it actually is.

>> No.71377378

>>71377096
It is bad imitation of their style.
Secondary copy without understanding of art ways.
In the future, there will only be more piling up of bulky armor and overbig weapons in the hope that it supposedly looks cooler.
I look at this Ghaz and see old SM and new Primaris.

>> No.71377438

>>71375413
I don't like how his head is "free-floating" inside the bit with the horns and mega-jaw. I feel like that part should turn with his head.

>> No.71377491

>>71376429
Work on your art.

>> No.71377539

>>71375413
It is wrong ork.
Our mekboyz do not produce such mega armour.

>> No.71377548

>>71377438
the gob was already a solid armor piece solidly attached to the body

>> No.71377558

>>71377327
>but with a tinier head.
That's my main problem, yes.
The head being small, made to look even smaller through the ironjaw and space between the neck and the curved armourplate framing it, makes him look like a small dude in a big armour.
Some anon in the other thread edited the head to be larger and it makes him look like a fuckhuge ork in armour instead of just an ork piloting a robot. >>71375625

>>71377377
actually I'm giving leeway in including the opened jaw.

>> No.71377601

Yarrick doesn 't know this ork.

>> No.71377632

>>71377558
He's a big guy. when you get bigger, your body grows, not your head.

>actually I'm giving leeway in including the opened jaw.
and yet you still didn't include the full jaw where you can actually see the chin going outside your orange outline.

Your complaint is dumb because it's founded by factually wrong things observed in the picture.

>> No.71377692

>>71375413

There doesn't seem to be much difference in terms of breaking up color compared the original Ghazghkul. I think the thing that immediately jumps out to me is that for some reason the original Ghazghkul himself looks big whereas with this sculpt it looks like his armor is responsible for the majority of his size. Might have been better if his head was one of the few organic parts left.

>> No.71377715

>>71377632
>He's a big guy. when you get bigger, your body grows, not your head.
It does when you're an ork. They don't get bigger muscles through working out; they grow as a whole through fighting.

Put a Warboss next to a Boy and you'll see there's quite a size difference between the heads.

>and yet you still didn't include the full jaw where you can actually see the chin going outside your orange outline.
And it's still a good deal larger than it would be with the jaw closed.

>> No.71377738

>>71377163
Does that make being an oddboy a different gender?

>> No.71377859

>>71375413
this

>> No.71377918

>>71377738
Nah.
My point was that while in, say, D&D Chaotic Evil Orcs (or Drow) need A LOT of suspension of disbelief because the authors describe them living in societies that would collapse after 40 minutes, for the orks being that brutal makes sense.

>> No.71377919

>>71377738
Oddboys are boys which have their Know-wots unlocked

>> No.71377981

>>71377715
>And it's still a good deal larger than it would be with the jaw closed.
what about the blatant shrinking of the outline so that the top of the head goes outside the orange line as well?
Your shitposting sucks.

>> No.71378053

Kek

>> No.71378113

>>71377981
Here you go then.

>> No.71378509

>>71378113
One is cunningly brutal.
The other is brutally cunning.

>> No.71379095

>>71377287
thats wrong its more like

>> No.71379120

>>71378113
honestly the feet is weirding me out more than anything. Besides Zagsstruk, does any other ork get their feet enhanced?

>> No.71379223

>>71379120
Dont warptalons all get their feet enhanced?

>> No.71379246

>>71377548
Yeah, but it was less obvious than on the new design.

>> No.71379256

>>71375413
eh Ive seen bigga

>> No.71379285

>>71375413
racist

>> No.71379382

>>71379223
I assume you mean Stormboyz?
In any case, no, they generally just get some spikes on their boots for better kicking, no allouth augmetics.

>> No.71379474

>>71375413

>> No.71379611

Nu-Ghazghkull is soulless he's just an ork Dreadnought
That includes 3rd edition

OG Ghazghkull has soul

>> No.71379662

>>71379474
>largest, strongest ork in all of 40k is equal to the average AoS ork
JUST

>> No.71380089

>>71379662
>average AoS ork
that's the hero, though
and also by comparing the human skulls lying around it seems to have been upscaled to roughly match ghazkull
it's just the proportions that are similar

>> No.71380183 [DELETED] 

>>71376116

Only a stupid 'oomie git would go through the trouble of making a gauntlet weapon that's just a fist but bigger. Orks already have the biggest fists. Might as well make a weapon have a different function from your bare hands. Now me hand is choppy too.

>> No.71380215

>>71375413
>kino

>> No.71380220

>>71376182

>>71376182

Only a stupid 'oomie git would go through the trouble of making a gauntlet weapon that's just a fist but bigger. Orks already have the biggest fists. Might as well make a weapon have a different function from your bare hands. Now me hand is choppy too.

>>71379662

Cope, ya dakka-less feral-worlder.

>> No.71380228

>>71380089
ghazgull is a little dinky baby inside a tau mechsuit
The absolute STATE of 40cucks

>> No.71380245

>>71379611
I remember when that model was huge.

>> No.71380720

>>71379611
I'll say this, th l oss of the Mongolian influuence is a major demerit to the designs.

>> No.71380755

>Ragnar Blackmane is a Primaris now
Well fuck you too, GW niggers

>> No.71380842

>>71379662
>Being this bad at spotting shitty scaling

>> No.71380851

>>71375413
Nah..
I'm worried about the possible future of Killa Kans, Dreads and Gargants.

>> No.71381016

>>71380755
Everyone who wasn't blind saw this coming.

>> No.71381031

>>71381016
i know but i fucking hate Primaris.
I hate them so much, my god

>> No.71381077

>>71375413
I could say the same thing about your mother's boyfriend, OP

>> No.71381081

Your average Krork could beat his ass

>> No.71381092

>>71380228
Hi Michael bell

>> No.71381108

I like that they gave us a new Gaz model I guess but this is a total miss. I actually like the Ragnar model too.

Shouldn't be perched up on something, should be more physically dominating rather than just the armor looking big. Really surprised they fucked this one up.

>> No.71381112

Not a fan of the gun, the weird palm claw things, or the tactical rock.

>> No.71381166

>>71379611
>thinking that's og ghaz

Zoomer

>> No.71382412

>>71381166
That OG model for Grotsnik too. I wonder whatever happened to the other two in the lore

>> No.71382545

>>71375413
That's Ghazzy? Wow. Seems he was serious about not skipping leg day.

>> No.71382681

>>71375413
I think he looks dope desu. /Tg/ likes to hate on things just because (ESPECIALLY if it's GW).

>> No.71383928

>>71376429
ok frogposter

>> No.71383953

>>71376382
>it's like those artworks of Marines that make the armour look way to huge for there to be a body inside
You mean the true artstyle of 40k?

>> No.71384060

>>71375413
This just makes him look like a random boy. Utter lack of personality in the design.

>> No.71384718

>>71375782
>>71375921
That's even worse than the casings and those are terrible. Everything about that gun is a disaster even by GW's standard

>> No.71384764

>>71376620
Sorry your thread failed anon, too bad you're obviously a total prick to boot

>> No.71385479

>>71376851
Thats not even Ghazzies body. Ragnar lopped his head off and Mad Dok Grotsnik got his claws on it.

>> No.71385718

Of all of the Ork Warbosses, Ghazskull has always been the one I liked the least.

>> No.71388647

>>71376116
So 'e kan flip gitz pff.

>> No.71388656

>>71376285
If so it's very dilute, like a teabag on it's 7th or 8th cup.

>> No.71388700

>>71375413
>Just looks like a big black blob to me.
Yep the model lines are not very identificable. I think it's a mediocre model at best, just a ton of details in a boring and not functioning pose.

>> No.71388788

>>71383953
Why does he have a Polish flag on his leg?

>> No.71388827

Bring back fuckin Wazdakka!

>> No.71389269

>>71375413
This is Nagash all over again.

"Maybe no one will notice the sculptor has no idea how to make my head proportionate to my body if my hat/jaw is extra big!"

>> No.71389280

>>71376697
do not disrespect sir England you fducking donkey

>> No.71389298

>>71376420
Although possible for orks, no canon ork warboss has had a full body replacement. Ghaz had the top of his head shot off and replaced.

Grotsnik is probably the closest to what you're saying, and he also just had his head cut open and brain exposed, it wasn't a full body-swap.

>> No.71389326

you all are a bunch of boomers you think enything new is soulless, even though is fucking plastic you are crying about, if you like the old one, just play that then ya gitz

>> No.71389349

>>71377068
>Don't know anything about 40k: can Orks get out of these suits?
Sometimes. Depends on quality and whether or not they're in a bionic suit or an armour suit.

>Do they need to eat and shit
Yes

>reproduce
Orks are part fungus - they release spores when killed and every spore eventually turns into a similar ork with baseline adult knowledge (but not memories of their host). An ork's spores create creatures that are usually similar, but can vary - some spores will produce grots, or nobs, or squigs. A single dead ork can permanently damage an ecosystem and a planet visited by orks will never be free of them.

>do they just exist and kill things?
Yes, and it is implied they were created as self-replicating living weapons to fight for the old ones

>> No.71389357

>>71377738
Not to sound like I'm meme you, but in all seriousness, gender doesn't exist as a concept in ork culture.

An oddboy is "odd" compared to regular boys in some way, usually they have a special skill outside of fighting. Some are good mechanics, some can do magic, some know how to perform surgery, some know how to raise squigs, etc.

>> No.71389380

>>71378509
underrated

>> No.71389402

>>71381031
so you are just retarded.
"Oh no, a model got updated, how could I ever live with myself?"

>> No.71389418

>>71381166
Most of the ork characters are the randomly-generated warbosses of different GW employees at the time, the one with memorable, weird rolls (typically the ones with head injuries) made it to second edition, the fairly plain ones (the OG deathskull warboss was an ork in heavy armour with a hand flamer) didn't make the cut.

Every ork warboss had a fully named and geared retinue, but only grotsnik was memorable enough, tied to lore of the poster child enough, and not the same klan enough, to make it without being a warboss or a later addition.

>> No.71389430

>>71382412
>>71389418
fml I clicked the wrong thing

>> No.71390459

>>71389298
>The greatest Ork Warboss of the 41st Millennium managed to do what no one in the galaxy could manage – effectively kill Ragnar Blackmane, one of the Imperium’s greatest heroes. He didn’t have the fight all his own way though as Ragnar did manage to chop his head off. Of course, such a flesh wound wasn’t enough to stop the self-proclaimed prophet of Gork and Mork.

>After an enterprising grot managed to find Ghazghkull’s head, his remains were taken to Mad Dok Grotsnik, and the Painboy had a plan. Lugging looted macro capacitors into his lab, he began his experiments and, as sheets of green power filled the sky, Ghazghkull lived once more.

It's new lore

>> No.71390725

>>71376457
>Tyranids
>Getting something nice
Everytime the nids get something, it' a coinflip on it either being okay or being a monkeypaw wish.
New swarmy model never ever.

>> No.71391983

>>71390459

That's gotta be the gayest shit i've ever read and that's coming from an avid yaoi connaisseur.

>> No.71393187

>>71385718
Iconic characters who most represent their faction without having individual traits of their own are usually the dullest.

>> No.71393220

>>71391983
Have you tried reading your own posts?

>> No.71393253

>>71390459
Fuck that

>> No.71393941 [SPOILER] 

>>71393220
Nah, I'm to busy masturbating.

>> No.71394329

>>71390459
>After an enterprising grot managed to find Ghazghkull’s head, his remains were taken to Mad Dok Grotsnik
Doesn't this imply that Grotsnik just stitched him back together and adding some gizmos he had lying around rather than transplating his head to a different body alltogether?

>> No.71394444

>>71394329
It's possible. Considering how orks works it wouldn't really make a difference after a while

>> No.71395999

>>71394444
I think it matters in the way that it raises the question where Grotsnik got a spare ork body lying around that is much bigger and beefier than even Ghaz was, who this Ork was and why was he not the boss since he was obviously bigger and therefore, better.

I think it makes more sense that he just stitched him back together and improved him, as he did the first time with the metalplate in his brain.

>> No.71396283

>>71394444
>>71395999
nice

>> No.71396435

>>71384718
cope retard it looks neat

>> No.71396832

>>71395999
He could be a whole bunch of Orks stitched together to make a huge body, but I doubt they'd do that without any evidence of it on the model.

>> No.71397515

>>71375840
YES

>> No.71397690

>>71378113

>> No.71398191

>>71395999
Yeah I'm with you. Grotsnik jampacked Ghaz body with cybernetics and fungus cocktails before stictching the head back on.

>> No.71398422

>>71375921
They really don't

>> No.71398515

>>71396435
>Hurr it looks neat
Uh huh. You probably shouldn't be using 'retard' as a pejorative.

>> No.71398769

>>71379611
>>71381166
>green swastikas on tha banna
Based & RP'd

>> No.71398796

Hes so fucking small. His armor is like 90% of his size. I was hoping when they said he had taken the monikor of The Beast he would be The Beast sized, like most of the others were. He should make Robutt look small.

>> No.71398820

>>71398769
there is a reason stormboyz are called stormboyz and stahlhelms are part of ork kultur.

>> No.71401281

>>71397690
>>71378113
>>71379095
Has no one consider the possibility?

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