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Nerf for everyone soon edition.

Last >>55420638

>Daily Duncan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asu5OuAckIE [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

>GW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Rules-Errata

>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations
https://mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA

>Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
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https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>WIP Math-hammer doc (Thanks Chart-Anon!)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

>Death Guard codex (thank you Vladimir)
>Epub
https://mega.nz/#!9hkg0LgL!_Y53qiTD0VDA641V4NBQtnZ8hTGLA_VE-CkTPh9YQzE
>PDF
https://mega.nz/#!p0tzAIya!DEVmw60_jOLXCdvWqoKBDx8_BW-wxbV6KD4CpB5WbvY

>> No.55423937

NEW ORK DEX FUCKING WHEN?

>> No.55423938
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55423938

First for Chaos Johnny

>> No.55423943

Blood Angel Players how are you finding death company and sanguinary guard?

what are you supplementing the rest of the list with Troops? Sternguard? Assault marines?

Im just starting off and im trying to wait for the codex but id like to start buying stuff outside of my start collecting and death company

>> No.55423945

>>55423937
Not til next year.

>> No.55423957

>>55423922
> Seeing random people using the OP image I once made to mock a butthurt tau player.
Feels good man. I'm surprised people are still using it.

>> No.55423959

Are daemonic mounts kill?

>> No.55423961
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>>55423938
There can be only one Johnny

>> No.55423964
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55423964

Yvraine is best girl

>> No.55423970

>>55423964
Why does Yvraine look like an anime waifu?

>> No.55423972

>>55423931
Bet you'll stop buying their products any minute now

>> No.55423975
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>>55423922
So what's the verdict on Death Guard? Good? Shit?

>> No.55423981

>>55423970
Because she's best girl, I just went over that.

>> No.55423983

>>55423970
Horny neckbeards

>> No.55423985

>>55423970
Because she's Gorillaman's waifu.

>> No.55423990

>>55423975
They're good shit

>> No.55423996

I'm really wondering about the balancing around characters and auras this edition. Not making characters targetable is one thing, but the units that should be killing them, snipers, are by and large incredibly shit. If you're lucky with your rolls and happen to be one of the factions that has halfway passable snipers (meaning Imperium) then maybe you can manage to kill that Commissar who's erasing all of the weaknesses of the Conscript blob he's parked behind or Malefic Lord who already made back twice his points cost by the time you get in range. Anything larger? Pucker up bucko, and welcome to Herohammer 40k.

>> No.55424000

>>55423957
When i saw it some long time ago, I found it cool general image and saved it.

>> No.55424002

>>55423975
Good, but also high cost, we'll have to wait and see if that cost is too high. Certainly plague marines look very expensive for what amounts to a T4 W1 3+ save model, even with a 5+ FNP.

>> No.55424010
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>>55423956
Until I build up my Renegades and Heretics it's basically my armies sniper equivalent that's complicated to get off.
And after my Renegades and Heretics are built up it's still going to be my main source of killing characters because my LGS banned Forge World for any store tournaments.
Friendly games and campaigns they don't control you just have to ask opponent permission.
Which softens the blow but it's still sad that I can't use my Sonic Helbrute in the tournaments, most people let me use Forge World when I ask though since they know that A; Sonic Helbrute may be a better Helbrute for me but it's not OP and B; they know how shit R&H are.

>> No.55424011
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>>55423964
Objectively false
Not even best space elf

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>>55423964
>it's been months
>still no Lewds of celestine, gayfax, or yvrain
I thought /tg/ got shit done

>> No.55424039

>>55424025
Blame Carnac. That's always the go to excuse.

>> No.55424046

>>55423964
She looks so much better with hair on her head.

>> No.55424048

>>55424025
The last time we got lewd in 40kg the whole thread was purged. And the one after.

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55424054

ORKOPALYPSE

>> No.55424055
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55424055

>I sure love when Adeptus Mech take every one elses traits and are an unoriginal sack of wires and cogs.

GW sure love stomping on other factions to give Imperium armies the end all be alls.

>> No.55424056

>>55424025
Most disappointing is that there is no lewd Celestine with her bodyguards.
TWINS THEY WERE!

>> No.55424057

>>55424010
> Stores actually banning forgeworld
> Thus removing the only real counter in the entire game to Conscript Blob
Fucking nig nogs butthurt that their 9000$ conscript army is hard countered by a 200$ pair of Leviathans.

>> No.55424058

>>55424046
They all do

>> No.55424059
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55424059

Is there any way to give BoP tartaros termies any melee weapons other than claws, fists, and the one power sword you get in the box?
I just finished my choppy squad and my shooty squad is in the mail, I wanna give them all swords/mauls and combi plasma to keep the melee cheap, but the FW tartaros weapons kits don't fit the plastic dudes

>> No.55424071

>>55424059
Put a skull in the hand of the one on the bottom right.

>> No.55424072

>>55424055
Not actually true, anon.

>> No.55424074

>>55424056
Or celestine getting plowed by greyfax
They are a yuri couple if I've even seen one

>> No.55424082

>>55424074
Celestine, Greyfax and twins.

>> No.55424089

>>55424057
Nah the dude with Conscripts was visiting a friend, other than that most people don't play with that shit.
The reason the owner banned it isn't because any of his regulars are dickheads, he just doesn't want someone to come in with some OP Forge World model he wasn't even aware existed and kill everyone else's fun.
I see what he means, but I still wish my Sonic Helbrute and future Renegades didn't get shafted by it.

>> No.55424099

>>55424059
>"to be or not to be... that is the question"
>"alpharius what are you doing?"
>"nothing alpharius let's get moving"

>> No.55424106
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55424106

Today I tossed 10 eversor assassins, 2 culexeus assassins, two ironclad dreadnoughts, a chaplain dreadnought, and a knight achron against the Thousand Sons and Magnus the Red.
Once again out of all the assassins it was one or two doing everything while the rest were unimpressive but the focus of the game was trying to kill Magnus. I came the second close to killing him since he was first released, reducing him to 4 wounds. Ahriman was killed by the efforts of 2 eversors.
I would have killed Magnus for certain, but I made a terrible mistake and let the hellforged leviathan dreadnought interrupt me in close combat, taking 8 wounds off the knight before it fought which it just couldn't recover from, even though it did manage to hack the thing in half in one phase.
Funnily enough it was the chaplain dreadnought that almost killed it. It did an extra 5 or so wounds after the FNP roll which brought Magnus down to 4, and if it had been killed in Magnus's retaliation it would have fought again, which just might have been enough to kill, but it was only reduced to one wound and then stabbed by a demon prince. In the last turn if both Eversors had managed to get their charges off, I might have finished Magnus with their death explosions, but alas only one charged in and failed to explode. It was a fun game though, the good kind of silly

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55424118

The 40k mod for Men at War updated today my dudes.

>> No.55424123

What's some good admech forge world stuff to get? I have a decent AdMech army right now, if a bit hoardy and I want new looking stuff.

Also I hear that you have to do some special shit before you assemble them, is that true?

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>>55424106
Why the fuck did everyone in there mother apparently own 10 of every assassin that only now is good enough for a meme list
I thought I was a weirdo with 2 of each, metal and plastic

>> No.55424131

>>55424057
The people fielding leviathans are also the ones fielding conscripts.

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>>55424106
>10 eversor assassins, 2 culexeus assassins, two ironclad dreadnoughts, a chaplain dreadnought, and a knight achron
I'm glad you lost.

>> No.55424137

>>55424039

Ok... who the fuck is carnac?

>> No.55424142

>>55424082
>tfw no 40k themed all girl harem
Fuck this hobby, I'm going back to /c/

>> No.55424149

>>55424118
Where might I get a copy of this mod?

>> No.55424152

>>55424137
boogeyman

>> No.55424157

>>55424137
It's a corrupted Eldar exodite world and NOTHING ELSE

>> No.55424165

>>55424137
He's the Keyser Soze of /tg/.

>> No.55424166

>>55424126
>everyone in there own mother
Excuse you, sir.

>> No.55424167

>>55424106
>10 eversor assasins
Jesus. That's an army in it of itself. Could probably take on any full equivalent list.

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>>55424099
He's my favorite, pose is great

>> No.55424177

>>55424152
boogeymen aren't so consistently autistic

>> No.55424178

>>55424126
Did you have a stroke or are you drunk?

>> No.55424183

>>55424167
Certainly can deal with conscript spam.

>> No.55424188

>>55424177
>hide from people
>try to scare them
>can't talk to people
>hide when you turn the lights on
I think they might be.

>> No.55424193
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>>55424149
http://www.moddb.com/mods/ultimate-mod-warhammer-40k
Praise be the Russians, english localization when?

>> No.55424196

>>55424137
talk shit in the late evening about Belakor, Abaddon, Khayon, etc and you'll summon his socially retarded autistic fury.

>> No.55424198

Didnt play last edition at all. Havent looked at new one yet. How're my Eldar doing folks?

>> No.55424199

>>55424166
Jesus Christ I know I typed that one fast and loose but not that loose

>> No.55424202
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>>55424025
But I just found Celestine lewds in two seconds on Google.

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55424205

>>55424137

>> No.55424209

>>55424054
I don't enjoy being the best looking person at the FLGS, but crowds like that make it easy.

>> No.55424211

>>55424202
Why haven't you posted them yet?

>> No.55424214

Wait, isn't the Primaris fluff just the clone trooper plot of the Star Wars prequels?

>> No.55424216

>>55424126
It's just me around here as far as I know.
>>55424167
It's not as impressive as it sounds. They can't do anything against vehicles, and if they don't infiltrate and charge they won't see combat before turn 3. It's funny to just have a squad of assassins deployed on the table though

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>>55424025

>> No.55424229

>>55424205
You forgot that he used to be Tau, then Necrons, and is only fairly recently Chaos.
So basically whoever the majority of Imperium players hates more at any given time.

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55424232

Are contemptors decent this edition?
I know leviathans are the current meme but the alpha legion contemptor is just so fucking sexy

>> No.55424240

>>55424193
Many thanks.

>> No.55424242

>>55424232
Call it a helbrute, 'cause helbrutes look awful

I do it with my Tson ones

>> No.55424251

>>55424232
who cares?

just take what you think looks cool

>> No.55424252

>>55423943
>what are you supplementing the rest of the list with

Guilliman and culexis assassins.

>> No.55424263

>>55423972
>he doesn't pirate all the rules

>> No.55424268

>>55424211
I don't wanna get banned.

>> No.55424284

>>55424268
Good point.

>> No.55424288

>>55424209
>I don't enjoy being the best looking person at the FLGS
Why not? Its great

>> No.55424291

>>55424232
>alpha legionaries are stated in multiple books to have little heraldry or dressings because they prefer sublty and blending in, also one of them might be a primarchs
>fucking pimp tier dreadnought literally covered in chains and giant hydras
I guess when you're dead you just stop giving a fuck about being subtle

>> No.55424292

>>55423938
PRAISE WORD BEARER JOHNNY!

>> No.55424300

>>55424209

Blonde bearded guy looks normal.

>> No.55424306

>>55424292
He's actually a homebrew warband I'm making.

>> No.55424311

>>55424300
The sad part is that fat sack of crap is my brother in law. Glad I'm not in that photo.

>> No.55424313

Does anyone know how to get a nice wood looking effect? I want to paint my Vostroyans with wooden weapons.

>> No.55424314
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>>55424240
No worries mang, this to me is the unofficial DoW 3.
The fact that it's predominately a scenario editor, means the bigger the community the better it gets.

>> No.55424315

>>55424059
sorry to say it but those minis are trash. No fault on you, the molds are just shitty. They look like they're ready to pick up pieces of salad with those claws

>> No.55424316

>>55424291
The fuck is a Contemptor going ot infiltrate.

>> No.55424319

>>55424054
guy on the right looks like a human water balloon.

>> No.55424329

>>55424316
Your anus

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>>55424054
>that glorious neckbeard in the back

Looks like a pretty chill group to play apocalypse with. How well does 8th edition work with clusterfuckalypse anyways?

>> No.55424333

>>55424314
It certainly looks better than DoW 3. Last time I trust anything licensed by GW.

>> No.55424335

>>55424319
I kind of want to throw a lawn dart at him to see if he pops.
I wouldn't but I want to.

>> No.55424344

>>55424291
>Implying that isn't just an Ultramarine dread that a bunch of Alpha Legion superglued their heraldry on it to draw fire

>> No.55424347
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>floating vehicles
Greater Good can't prevail against my treads xeno-filth.

>> No.55424348

>>55424316
>I AM A SIMPLE POWER LOADER
>PRAISE THE OMNO...ONMI...OMNISSIAH
>>55424332
Someone should get him some bigger clothes

>> No.55424355

anyone got watchers of the throne: the emperor's legion?

>> No.55424356

>>55424335
He'll cry so much you would think he popped.

>> No.55424365

>>55424315
The fork power claws are a bit disappointing, and I spent an hour shaving mold lines and still didn't get them all
I just think tartaros's seem a lot more alpha legion, they look more slim and ergonomic so I'm trying to make them work
also I got 2 boxes for $50 so I can't complain

>> No.55424375

>>55424332
better than 5th-7th did, but it'll still devolve into a superheavy parking lot if the players have no self control

>> No.55424379

>>55424348
This, baggy clothes do a good job of hiding fat if you aren't a hambeast. Most people I know don't even realize that I'm a chubby fuck.

>> No.55424380

>>55424333
Is Dow 3 still shit?

>> No.55424382

>>55424332
That train is ruined by the fact that I can't unsee the drop pod door. Curse my amazing talent for spotting marine bits.

>> No.55424385

Do you guys think a fusion of black Templars and grey knights would work well together?

>> No.55424407

>>55424379
I was a chubster as a kid and had huge clothes
Then discovered bolemia and now /fit/...yay?

>> No.55424408

>>55424385
Templars really fucking hate psykers, so no. Shame, because such a knightly alliance would be glorious.

>> No.55424423

>>55424288
Because there is nothing more bitter and envious than a neckbeard.

>> No.55424424
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>>55424333
DoW 3 looked like an arcade game at times, how the fuck do you swing and miss a universes Aesthetics in the third game?

At least here the gore is right, bolter rounds remove heads and corpses explode beneath tank treads.

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>>55424407

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>>55424365
Tartaros's definitely match Alpha Legion better. They also happen to look infinitely better than Cataphracti and regular ones.

They also match theBlood Ravens better. Their chapter master even wears it.

>> No.55424436

>>55424408
HAHAHA not since 6th
Now they hate all xeno and heretic psykers, they are fine with imperial psykers.
>>55424385
Yea why not? But remember that GK fight only against daemons.

>> No.55424438

>>55424380
I think it's garbage. "Streamlining" is code for "Dumb enough for idiots to play".

>> No.55424440

>>55424429
It's not gay if he dresses like a girl

>> No.55424441

>>55424438
But 8E was streamlined

>> No.55424445

>>55424291
>Spends a century fighting wars using stealth and guile
>sometimes takes entire planets and doesn't fire a shot
>gets dessemboweled by corax at istivaan V
>gets told he can only fight in front line action due to his bulk
>has the tech priest cover him in chains and emblems, strides into battle shredding things with storm bolter fire and giant fists
>"XX gonna give it to ya" blasting on loop from his vox as he enjoys open warfare finally

>> No.55424449

>>55424424
The third game went for the cartoony style. Same goes for gameplay, where they chose a simple/bad approach.

Pretty much it's like they just wanted to appeal to a casual audience and it bit them in the ass.

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>>55424438
Except not even idiots bought it.
DoW 3 looked like a MOBA, it even had a mode for it.

Where was the horrendous back and forth slaughter?

>> No.55424463

>>55424441
I'm not thrilled with parts of that either. I miss blast templates.

>> No.55424464

>>55424365
>>55424433
Alpha Legion special Termies Lernaean were using Cataphracti.
Fun fact they can equip Conversion beamer.

>> No.55424466

>>55424441
When you start at 'requires legitimate autism to play' going to 'dumb enough for idiots' is an improvement

>> No.55424468

>>55424011
You're waifu became a gross drug addict after the whole Biel-Tan thing, anon.

>> No.55424471

>>55423943
Too expensive for Power Level games but doable in Points games. But it is pretty much all I have so I support them with tanks and rifleman dreadnoughts. It doesn't win but it is fun and that is what matters to me. If I want to win I'll play my other armies.

Flesh Tearers 5 CP 100 p

Vanguard Detachment +1 CP 62 p

Chaplain with Jump Pack 6 p
Chaplain with Jump Pack 6 p

Death Company with Jump Pack x10 20 p
Death Company x10 18 p
Dreadnought 7 p

Drop Pod 5 p

Spearhead Detachment +1 CP 38 p

Librarian with Jump Pack 7 p

Baal Predator 8 p
Predator 9 p
Vindicator 7 p
Vindicator 7 p

>> No.55424473

>>55424333
>Last time I trust anything licensed by GW.
The Total War games are pretty awesome.

>> No.55424474

>>55424457
Exactly.

>> No.55424487

>>55424473
I've been told that Total War is a rare moment where GW chose a competent developer over a cheap one.

>> No.55424490

>>55424464
>conversion beamers
Give those back to whoever you took them from alpharius

>> No.55424496

>>55424487
GW doesn't really choose developers, if you can pay you can play.

>> No.55424500

>>55424468
Eh, I'm used to it

>> No.55424505

>>55424216
>They can't do anything against vehicles
Don't they have melta bombs, or are those less than useless nowadays?

>> No.55424523

>>55424496
And DoW 3 is the result of that philosophy.

>> No.55424525

>>55424463
Guard player here who dropped about 30 blasts and templates a turn in some of his lists
Trust me you don't miss them as much as you think, the arguments over scatter and the bullshit barrage rules that took up an entire page were terrible

>> No.55424529

>>55424505
I don't think they ever had Melta Bombs.

The Everesor is the only one with a hope of hurting vehicles by number of attacks or detonating

>> No.55424538

>>55424523
DoW3 isn't even the worst offering.

>> No.55424542

>>55424252
Fuck you

>> No.55424547

>>55424525
I never really had arguments over blast scatters or barrages. Maybe the people I play with paid attention in English class.

>> No.55424550

>>55424529
Eversors have melta bombs.

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>>55424529
They've always had melta bombs and still do.

>> No.55424558

>>55424525
Not him, Sisters player here. Pieplates can get fucked but I loved me some flame templates. Felt good dropping a ton of those, d6 hits just doesn't cut it.

>> No.55424559

>>55424333
Am I the only person here who languishes over the fact that WH40k:space marine 2 will never happen?
I literally play through that shit at least once every six months

>> No.55424566

>>55424558
>>55424553
Ha! My friend fucked up then, his eversor was booped to death by my helbrute over 3 rounds of combat

>> No.55424579

>>55424566
They're just grenades now so not as useful as they used to be.

>> No.55424580

>>55424523
Relic is a pretty solid choice amongst options for developing an RTS, and have a solid past record.

I'd call DoW3 the result of an executive's failed decision to claim a broader market appeal and also enter the lucrative e-sports world.

Really, GW themselves know their own market best. It would behoove them to tell each developer "this is our consumer base - they are niche, they are specialized, they like these things. Appeal to them in these areas and they will never stop hurling money at your product. Fail to appease them in these areas and your game will fail."

>> No.55424591

>>55424547
The different perspectives and slight biases towards where something scatters was miserable, I finally just would tell people to tell me where the blast went in casual games, and endured 10 minutes of arguing every shooting phase in tourneys
Then there was the bullshit rules lawyering people started doing when I started bringing wyverns and beating everyone, they argued twin linked doesn't work on flips from barrage because you aren't rolling a to hit dice or rolling to scatter technically, finally just stormed out of a tourney after literally an hour of arguing about it with 5 people who just so happen to also be the people who liked my army the least

>> No.55424596

>>55424566
can't use grenades in close combat anymore

>> No.55424602

>>55423959
They better not be I just modeled my choas lord on juggernaut...

>> No.55424603

>>55424591
If that story doesn't sum up 7th I don't know what does

>> No.55424604
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>>55424054
>someone actually put this on a shirt

>> No.55424608

>>55424579
>>55424596
Okay, Ima stop now cause the gin is making me stupid as fuck

>> No.55424611

>>55424602
Is it unhealthy whenever someone says "juggerlord" I always think of a female khorne berserker with DDD cup tits?

>> No.55424614

>>55424580
The publisher has way more impact than GW does.

>> No.55424618

>>55424054
is that dude on the right a stompa or something cuz wow he's got quite the stomach mounted ammo belt

>> No.55424621

>>55424611
Just means Slaanesh wants your soul

>> No.55424626

Why is 40kg /v/ all of a sudden?

>> No.55424632
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>>55424580
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uewFKFEd7H8
Imagine if they used the third installment to go bigger in scale rather than MOBA tier micro.

>> No.55424634

>>55424602
They're not in the codex but you can use their index statline and rules. It's probably a sign that GW is probably going to do away with them as an option since they don't have an official 40k model. Who knows, maybe they'll put five minutes of work into making one? They already have the new AOS juggernaut rider models to use as a base, all they'd need to do is slap a marine and some weapons onto it.

>> No.55424642

>>55424332
Underated post!

>> No.55424643
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>>55424626
Because /v/ is unironically unusable and I don't think /vg/ has a DOW general anymore.
;-;

>> No.55424646

Okay here's a fun game
Look at the most competitive/WAAC list you have for 8th and try and imagine how it would do in a CAD only 7th edition, what units would do much better/worse?

>> No.55424649

>>55424380
It is, just don't let the Relic Internet Defense Force hear you saying it, they have some of the most passionate shills of any company.

>> No.55424652

>>55424580
>>55424614

Relic who made DoW1 and DoW2 is not the same Relic who made DoW3. Its really shocking how many people fail to understand this. A lot of the unique flavor that made DoW1 and DoW2 special, authentic even, was lost because the developers themselves were lost. It was a new team bringing in their own ideas of how to make an RTS for today, based on games that are available today or games that they grew up with from the past 10 years - long after the golden age of RTS ended.

This is basically why the game turned out a jumbled mess of concepts which was hammered into genericness for the sake of public consumption in its final development cycles. It has little to do with GW, and more to do with SEGA giving the property one more chance to see if it can make money as a AAA title by giving the franchise to nuRelic which needed more experience.

>> No.55424653
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55424653

>>55423922

>these didn't instantly sell out

What went wrong?

>> No.55424654

>>55424646
Well that assassin spam list probably bloats to around 3000 points

>> No.55424656

Havent played in awhile, are Wraith Hosts still a thing?

>> No.55424660

>>55424653
I bought the fuck out of them. Been using them for board games too. Top tier gimmick dice.

>> No.55424661

>>55424653

They're awful dice?

>> No.55424665

>>55424424
They tried to "streamline" their game and attract MOBA/SC2 players I think. In the end they appealed to neither and royally pissed off their core fan base that had been around since 2004.

Fuckin idiots, the whole lot.

>> No.55424670

>>55424542
Good luck i'm behind 15 characters

>> No.55424673

Death Guard don't seem very good?

>> No.55424674

>>55424653
The plastic should have been green instead of grey.

>> No.55424675
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>>55424611
>remembering I used to call my GF with DDs "chief jug jiggler" to bug her
God highschool was an awful time

>> No.55424680

>>55424653
I love shit like this, I just don't play DG.

Squeezy rubber insides in a plastic case? Hell yeah. I also like translucent neon plastic like the old green blast templates, and holographic shit.

>> No.55424688

>>55424665
I'm a Dota2 fag, tried the DoW3 beta

Liked it, but that gamestyle isn't why i play DoW
If i want a moba, ill boot up dota

which is something i dont think they realized

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55424694

>>55424674
It is green, anon.

>> No.55424702

>>55424673
Mixed bag, some seem quite overcosted. The grenade gimmick might actually be good, but then again one-trick-pony armies are boring.

>> No.55424704
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>>55424580
As someone plays and enjoys DoW3, I still say the entire problem has blown up by loads of people who haven't even played the game and are just triggering themselves over the word "MOBA."

The game has flaws, but they are rarely listed by anyone who calls the game "shit." The update that added in classic RTS gameplay and buildable turrets went a massive ways towards making skirmishes enjoyable again, no power core/shield generator bullshit. I think it is still lacking content in way of factions and units, but that isn't a deal-breaker here.

Personally, by biggest issue is with the survivability of regular units, particularly lower tier ones like tactical marines and banshees. The resource rate is extremely slow, so you have a lot of time to fight with and baby individual squads, and with the return of the Reinforce option, you are rewarded for preserving squads instead of massive new ones.

Yet they units die in a fucking heartbeat. There literally isn't a point to the Reinforce option because nothing will ever last long enough to use it, and combined with the slow as balls resource rate that means too much downtime and heavy advantages for whoever kills off their opponents units faster, since they can push and win almost guaranteed at that point.

Heroes come in all sorts of power levels, commanders being weaker than their DoW2 counterparts and the ven dread/knights etc. being much stronger, and they also contribute towards the above problem with regular units. Heroes are free to buy, and even though they aren't juggernauts of destruction, a few well-played abilities will swing fights instantly. And God-forbid, those super-abilities that cannot be turned off in game options will wipe whole armies, absolutely stalling gameplay with nofun.

Those are the real problems with DoW3. Fortunately, the devs said they are considering vastly (+50% hp even) improving unit survivability. It's mostly long-term balance with upgrades and such they are working out.

>> No.55424708

>>55424646
>plasma scions
Lolwut, why don't these guys have meltas
>60 conscripts
Enjoy spreading those guys out all game to avoid blasts and doing basically nothing
>3 basilisks and 2 manticores
A solid choice in any edition

>> No.55424710 [SPOILER] 
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55424710

thanks duncan

>> No.55424717

>>55424702

Seems like the grenade build has to get so close for it to function.

>> No.55424722

>>55424674
It's funny when color blind people don't realize they're color blind. My friend didn't know he was R/G colorblind until I told him a green map had red portions highlighted.

>> No.55424723

>>55424665
>attract MOBA players
Have any of you fucks played DoW 3? DoW 2 has more in common with a MOBA than 3 does. Heroes don't matter nearly as much as you think they do.

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55424729

>>55424314
>krieger face when encountering a wheat field

>> No.55424740

>>55424717
Transports, my dude. Also, I've read a couple accounts of people using it with an understrength unit and still seeing good results.

>> No.55424741

>>55424171
>that atrophied robot arm

I don't know how to feel...

>> No.55424745
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55424745

How do we fix Orks?

>> No.55424748

>>55424723
I fucking hated DoW2.

>> No.55424751

>>55424723
Gorbles/Vindicare/Carneveur/Max? Is that you?

>> No.55424754

>>55424740

I guess I look at it from my army's POV and I just don't seem a DG army ever getting remotely close enough to chuck grenades.

>> No.55424756

>>55424704
That's a good post, but the fact they had to even update such critical classic RTS features to their game after-the-fact, shows just how bad a misfire it was.
What kind of DoW game is shipped without turrets?

>> No.55424762

>>55424745
Make them believe they are fixed?

>> No.55424773

>>55424756
I don't remember turrets being a big deal in the previous games.

>> No.55424777

>>55423975
The whole army has the same problem as the Deathshroud: decent stats but expensive as fuck and slow as molasses.

>> No.55424780

>>55424722
I remember a player in City of Heroes who was a neon-green plastic army man. When people asked about the blinding color he said "looks fine to me".

>> No.55424785

>>55424773

I never played PvP in DoW1, but for single player, turrets were important for me as they helped lessen my macro load and focus on micro. I'm great at macro but shit at micro, so when a map requires me to micro my squads, turrets really help me be at ease at unattended bases or outposts.

>> No.55424793

>>55424785
I always found they just died without much effort from an opponent.

>> No.55424798
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55424798

>>55424054
Its always fun to see other stores groups. To see other people that participate in the hobby. That shop looks really good too. Ours is a lot more open now but that one looks really easy to move around in.

>> No.55424799
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55424799

>>55424756
>the fact they had to even update such critical classic RTS features to their game after-the-fact, shows just how bad a misfire it was.
I agree wholeheartedly. I spent so long just wondering "Who thought this could be a good idea?"

>>55424773
Turrets are major in DoW1, and an afterthought in the shittiest DoW game DoW2. Modded DoW1, with walls and turrets including Earthshaker Platforms, is one of the best experiences you can have in a 40k game. You can literally do pic related.

>End battle result:
>15,000 units lost
>8,000 units killed
>Victory!

>> No.55424812

>>55424799
The pathfinding was too shit for me to enjoy the large scale mods for DoW1.

>> No.55424813

>>55424798
>token guy who dresses like a douche
>token Pablo
>token kid
>token Gygax looking motherfucker

>> No.55424814

>>55424785
>play DOW 1
>dog shit at rts games
>hoard of Orks closing, all I have on that flank is a 1/4 health land speeder
>sit it in front of the hoard and hope it'll hold them off long enough for me to reinforce
>forget about it
> an hour later I go back to it and it's at about 1/8th health and there are 100 ork bodies in front of it

>> No.55424820

>>55424798
>roosterteeth shirt
>+1 respect

>> No.55424824

>>55424814
>"holy shit land speeders are awesome"
>buys 9 in real life
>explode to a stiff breeze

>> No.55424826

>>55424798
That guy in the back right looks like he needs some serious dental work done

>> No.55424832

>>55424433

That is a sexy conversion. Pig Iron head and converted choppa. What's the rest of the model?

>> No.55424833

>>55424826
>ork player
>yells waaagh
>gets teeth knocked out in fist fights

>> No.55424837

>entire Ork Waaagh! running in fear from Death Guard
>Tyranids dying of poison
>Necrons being infected by disease
>Tau losing

GW sure outdid itself in this codex to put NPCfags in their place

>> No.55424842

>>55424826
His ex girlfriend hit him in the face with a baseball bat because she thought he was cheating on her. He is missing several teeth. It was hella lame.

>> No.55424843

>>55424813
>Pablo

You don't mean...

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>>55424826
Idk why but nerd groups like magic the gathering and 40k have a way higher rate of dental problems, probably just from those sorts of people not taking care of themselves as much
>tfw you get paired up with the smelly guy in the 40k tourney

>> No.55424848

>>55424777
The key shit should have their speed mitigated. Plague Marines really need rhinos and Grave Wardens (fuck the new name) have their teleportation. Sadly I think Pox Walkers and Death Shroud are a scrub trap. They're too expensive and slow compared to more efficient options. The simple shit seems like it will perform.

>> No.55424852

>>55423975
Good. They're an elite army average out with cheap blobs. I'd ignore terminators altogether, as they exacerbate the problem of the death guard and have a low special weapon rate (which is what you really want).

The real strength comes from the battle forged bonuses. The first one let's them rapid fire weapons an extra 6" - boltguns, plasma, sure but I haven't seen anyone mention yet that this applies to cultists with autoguns - at 4 points a piece, and it should. This same rule also lets cultists move and fire heavy stubbers without penalty, and plague marines to run and fire assault weapons without penalty.

The second rule is basically objective secured from 7th edition, in that it gives death guard troops units control of an objective regardless of whether they have more models on it.

This rule can be canceled out by other units with similar rules, but it's good to have on durable units like plague marines and pox walkers.

>> No.55424861

>>55424837
>>Tyranids dying of poison
I think you mean Death Guard dying of Tyranid poison. The world was so inhospitable undead Nurgle warp-zombies also had to abandon it.

>> No.55424866
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>>55424798

What do you think everyone plays

>> No.55424871
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>>55424777
Nurgle speaks the truth

>> No.55424875

>>55424861
It still contains Nurglite toxic bacteria that's continuously evolving and spreading. It's a win for Nurgle who loves all life.

>> No.55424876

>>55424847
Being a normie with un-normie hobbies is suffering.

>> No.55424883

>>55424866
Sabaton Cap plays Necrons, Long hair plays Custodes and the kid plays Dark Angels

>> No.55424889

>>55424777
>slow as molasses
Is this really a problem when the Termies can teleport and the Plague Marines can ride in Rhinos? Plus the Daemon Engines are actually fast.

>> No.55424890

>>55423922
Does anybody else miss Pariahs? I miss the idea that they were to be the C'tans true servants, and the replacement to the Necrons. I also liked the idea of them having willingly joined the C'tan, as a way to bring vengence upon those that hated them.

>> No.55424898

>>55424848
not who you were talking to but I just wanted to vent my frustration about astartes armies...goddamn I hate the rhino model. I hate building it, I hate painting it, I hate including it in my armies. wish I could just footslog and not get blasted off the table with 30-40ish infantry for world eaters.

>> No.55424902

>>55424890

I miss the non-Canoptek stuff. like a wraith that was just a fucking warrior with a long ass spine

>> No.55424907

>>55424813
>token Gygax looking motherfucker
I was going to post "Roll to see if you cry and if so, how hard" but I wasn't sure if anyone else saw the resemblance.

>> No.55424916

>>55424898
I'm attempting mass deep strike so I don't have to mech up as much.

>> No.55424918

>>55424890
I don't get why they were removed, newcron lore would allow them to still exist just change some timelines around and have them be created before the sharding of the C'tan.

>> No.55424922
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55424922

I like the effort

>> No.55424923

>>55424890
Yeah, I really liked the connection between soulless humans and the C'tan. I believe it was strongly implied that the C'tan planted the trait into primitive terran primates in the hope of reaping a future harvest.

Considering that the warp is anathema to C'tan it was a story where all the pieces fit together well.

>> No.55424926

>>55424382
But yet you dont notice the drop pod "fins" attached to the wheels

>> No.55424930

>>55424798
Mfw I'm an anxious wreck and nervous about introducing myself to a new store to find an 8th game after years of not playing

>> No.55424932

>>55424918
Because the Newcrons are noted to be extremely arrogant and look down on the lesser races. They would see no point in the Pariahs and giving them the gift of eternal life.

>> No.55424953

>>55424876
>consider self enourmous nerd and social reject
>get into 40k
>literally the most attractive person at the store
>only person to not have some sort of smell to them
>only person not obviously putting their finances in jeopardy constantly for 40k
>only person not flaky as fuck and can actually keep a game day
>only person with a clear career path
>only person who doesn't tense up when taking to strangers, especially girls ugly or not
Sometimes I feel like I'm too normal for this hobby despite being an avid 4chan poster and constantly entertaining myself with video games and mostly yuri anime

>> No.55424955
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55424955

Is there any official artwork of dreadnought storage, or a book that describes space wolf dreadnought storage? Trying to recreate the Fang's storage for my armies on parade.

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>>55424424

Why do the fans always do better than the actual companies at making games/mods?

How is it possible to do a better job with less money and time?

Fucking HOW?!

>> No.55424960

>>55424932
That's the thing keep the old apex of the C'tan lore and have the Pariahs be the ones doing the work while undercover in the main dynasties awaiting their revenge and helping the C'tan reform. Or make them a Necron version of the Alpha Legion and have them showing up randomly and either helping the Silent king or the C'tan depending on their goal.

>> No.55424962

>>55424922
legion of the damned in their natural habbitat, a field of crushed up cheesypuffs

>> No.55424964

>>55424930
Literally just walk in one day and start talking to the manager. Or go for the simple "Who is winning" at a game going on.

>> No.55424969

>>55424837
Nids out poisoned the DG
Tau were fighting Imperium and DG just waddled into and already messy mess.
Ork one was weird.
Yeah, I'll give you Necrons. That was silly.
>Disease of rust. CONTAGIOUS rust!

>> No.55424972

>>55424953

whats your career

>> No.55424979

>>55424957
>How is it possible for passionate people working on their fun hobby to do better jobs than dispassionate employees working on their unfun work

>> No.55424980

>>55424953
You're doing a little better than me in terms of career/finances but I'm in the same boat as you with the rest of it. I've got two girlfriends and it feels weird knowing I can never casually talk about relationship shit with the forever-alone beta guys at the store and there's always that weird unspoken awkwardness they have when my girls are there.

>> No.55424982

>>55424902
To be honest, but I have to hard disagree; Canoptek stuff is a million times better than spooky ghost skeleton. But the vehicles can fuck off, execot for the Obelisk and monolith.

>>55424918
See>>55424932
Theres no reason for them, logically.

>>55424923
Theres also the fact that the C'tan almost seek them out like their own children. Remember where the Night Bringer, of all mother fuckers, plops down to a agri-world, and picks up a little girl, bundles her up in his cloak, and ferrys her away?

>> No.55424983

>>55424953
I feel you. I can barely manage to play once in a while with the people in my city due to this.

>> No.55424986

>>55424748
A shame, since it's the best one.

>>55424751
I have no idea who those people are.

>> No.55424990

>>55424964
>walk up to close, intense games
>"So who's winning?"
>heated argument ensues
>tables get flipped

Every time.

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>>55424955
I vaguely remember this book talking about it.

>> No.55424998

>>55424972
Pre-med

>> No.55425000

>>55424861
>>55424837
>>55424969

A ragtag group of Blood Ravens defeated a Tyranid splinter fleet by injecting AIDS into its proverbial hive ass, so poisoning Tyranids is not an impressive feat by any estimation.

Chaos generally affecting Necrons like they're humies is complete bullshit, but that seems to be the norm that GW wants for Necrons now so fuck it.

Tau deserves a dickslap from the Warp every now and then.

>> No.55425009

>>55424969
>Nids out poisoned the DG

No, both sides died. When the fleet came to drink, the ship that first drank the slime was cruelly shot at by the rest of the fleet. This shows Tyranids are dumb. The Hivemind could have ordered the ship to crash into the planet or sail into the nearest sun. Maybe even keep it around and use it as a poison lab.

>> No.55425011

>>55424922
>>55424962
I was thinking candy corn. In any case, really sells the Halloween theme.

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>>55424962
Honestly at this point I think it's candy corn. In fact this whole thing looks like how a marine chapter would do Halloween.

>> No.55425016

>>55425000
It was Tau that poisoned a Hive splinter to death with a ragtag group.
And the Nids out-poisoned the DG. Not the other way around

>> No.55425017
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>>55424798
10,000 days in paint tool SAI.

>> No.55425018

>>55424998
Jesus dude are you stalking me?

>> No.55425022

>>55425011
>>55425012
spooky

>> No.55425024

>>55424955
>>55424993
They are kept in chambers at the bottom of the Fang, takes days to get down there and hours to wake them up.
It's in total darkness and there are fucked up mutant wolves running around
I think the book Deus Ex'd an elevator for the ride back up so the Dreads could show up at the 11th hour

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>>55424980

> I've got two girlfriends

Surely you mean friends who are girls, anon.

Surely.

>>55424979

How do you know the people in the company aren't just as passionate?

The real reason is probably executive meddling. The out of touch executives try to make business decisions, and they fall flat on their ass because they simply cannot comprehend a mindset not focused around logical business decisions, or at least can't justify it to their equally crusty and risk-averse investors.

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Looking for advice, trying to repurpose my 30k models for 40k world eaters, what the fook should I do with these red butchers? (Aside from add more paint because that's also the plan)

>> No.55425033

Cogboy here. I'm happy to have a new codex, and some sweet new art in it. However, I am somewhat sad to see no new models! I haven't had a good look at Forgeworld's 30k models, but I have been told that I can use some of that stuff on regular 40k games.

What new models would you have liked to see from GW for the Admech? Suggestions for FW resin to sacrifice an augmetic limb or two for?

>> No.55425042

>>55425031
Termi with power axe
>B-but the combi gun
He combi-axes your face

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>>55424990
Ive seen something similar happen to this at my local store
>2 dudes playing admech v Deldar
>admech players veins popping out of his head
>Anon: "who is winning?"
>Admech dude blurts out "this cunt" and sneezes on the table, covering a dunecrawler

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>>55425011
>>55425012
Thats some real spooky shit right there

>> No.55425054 [DELETED] 

>>55424980
At the risk of a ban for being off topic is polygamy all its cracked up to be?
I'm currently becoming trap tier and I've heard lots of probably false stories that traps are more likely to be able to be in more fluid relationships with multiple girls, I was wondering if it's worth it if the opportunity arose

>> No.55425055

>>55424953
I feel exactly the same way
>walk into store, still in suit from work
>everyone looks at me like I'm some kid's dad (I have no kids)
>the entire store is quiet because they're not sure if they can joke around an "adult"
It's like if you're not wearing the uniform they assume you don't belong. I had to make shitty meme comments for an hour before they realized that I wasn't just some guy who got lost and walked into the wrong store. I still dress well when I got to the store on my off days if only to lead by example.

>> No.55425058

>>55424798
Is the gentleman with the death star shirt..Special? or just physically handicapped? Imagine if it wanted to touch your minis with cheetos dust on its flesh pincirs

>> No.55425062

So yeah, for my lil bro's B-Day, here's what I have in store for him:

Start Collecting: Necrons
Necron Immortals / Deathmarks
Necron Triarch Praetorians / Lychguards

tis in three weeks or so.

I honestly hope he likes it.

>> No.55425069

>>55425033
I would like to see some updated servitors, a magos HQ that isn't cawl, and last and certainly not least a damn dedicated transport that isn't forge world exclusive.

>> No.55425070

>>55425058
His arms look deformed, probably some physical birth defect.

>> No.55425075

>>55425058
He is actually really smart, he is a mechanical engineer, he just has fucked up arms and lost one of his legs while he was on an oil rig like 15 years ago. A bit of a hardass when it comes to forgetting things in a phase but otherwise an alright guy. He is the father of the kid.

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>>55424837
>>Tyranids dying of poison

>Death Guard get completely melted down by the poisons
>Tyranid fleet is down one ship.
Pic related, its you.

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>>55425062

>> No.55425092

>>55425070
If he doesnt take 3 hours to roll a turn of dice I don't care. Hell he could already have some sort of boggle bubble that pops his dice

>> No.55425093

>>55424875
No, it's just hyper-toxic slime and nothing else.

>> No.55425094

>>55425062
Its a tremendously good starting buy. Im glad I was able to help.

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>>55423922
What is more likely for a renegade regiment to do? Fall to Chaos or join the Tau's anime club?

>> No.55425106

>>55425076
And one planetary army

>> No.55425107

Passion

>> No.55425110

>>55424889
Considering the ease with which you can be outmaneuvered? Yes it is.

>> No.55425114

>>55425098
Chaos the tau are only an option for a small few because of how little territory they have.

>> No.55425119

Are shooting tyranid lists viable?

>> No.55425130

>>55425029
>Surely you mean friends who are girls, anon.
No I mean two bisexual girls who are dating me and each other.

>>55425054
It's more work for more reward. You all have to be capable of communicating with your partners. It is definitely worth trying if it feels right for you, and don't assume if it doesn't work out the first time that the poly is the problem, it could just be like any normal 1on1 relationship that just didn't work out because of any number of normal reasons.

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>>55424798
>That guy with the Sabaton shirt

>> No.55425137

>>55425093
I disagree. If it was, then the Tyranids wouldn't have panic and shot at their ship.

>> No.55425138

>>55425075
Sounds like a good dude

>> No.55425141

>>55425098
Depends
If surrounded by corrupting corruptness then join the nuImperium of (spiky) man. Or, realize the folly of man and side with the Ultimate Saviour.

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>>55425130
>No I mean two bisexual girls who are dating me and each other.

>> No.55425149

>>55425119
Yes, Exocrines, Hive Guard and Biovores are very solid.

I still wouldn't run nids without some amount of melee though.

>> No.55425153

>>55425106
Trivial to replace next to Plague Marines, Sorcerers, and Terminator armor. They can be grown anywhere from stored biomass.

>> No.55425163 [DELETED] 

>>55425144
It's getting increasingly common these days, anon. Hell I meet a new poly person/couple/group pretty much every anime convention I go to these last couple years.

>> No.55425164

Is there any point in NOT deep striking Scions/Having them ride in valks?

>> No.55425165

>>55425137
It was literally melting and they put it out of its misery.

>> No.55425167

>>55425144
Not the first time this has come up. He's in some weird three way relationship.

>> No.55425168

>>55424982
>Theres also the fact that the C'tan almost seek them out like their own children. Remember where the Night Bringer, of all mother fuckers, plops down to a agri-world, and picks up a little girl, bundles her up in his cloak, and ferrys her away?

Haven't read through much aside from the pre-6th edition codexes. Sounds way more interesting than the current PokeC'tan.

>> No.55425177 [DELETED] 

>>55425163
>The West is becoming increasingly degenerate
unsurprising

>> No.55425182

>>55425153
Actually, the Death Guard are a whole legion that is organised and well supplied. They can recuperate those losses pretty easily. The Tyranids however were denied biomass. This means that they are starving. This means they will be easy prey for the Necrons.

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>>55424955
This art of reviving bjorn from gathering storm.

Also, fuck you I had to go to spikey bits site to find that.

>> No.55425191

>>55425149
Well yeah I would definitely bring some specific melee units

How is the Tyrannofex?

>> No.55425192

>>55425119
Yes, x2 Malanthrope, x2 Tervigon, x4 units of 30 termagants, 15 each being devilgant, x3 units of hive guard and x2 exocrine. Across two vanguard detachments you could get many more hive guard.

>> No.55425195

>>55425138
Im supremely happy with the group of people at my chosen store. Theres only one person who is a fag but I can tolerate him if it means I get to play more than once or twice a week.

The guy in the black V neck shirt towards the right has a youtube channel called Nights at the Game Table he started recently and does high quality games on it. GW sent him the Death Guard codex before it released and they put out a preview game against Mortarion(Using the FW model of him) and DG versus Magnus and Daemons. Its worth checking out especially since GW said if they got like 500 more subs on youtube they would start sending him all the new releases, codexes and such, 2 weeks prior to their public release to review on the channel.

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>>55425163
>increasingly common
>anime convention

>> No.55425197

>>55425165
It's draining straw was melting. The Tyranids are not humanists. They saw the ship as a danger to the whole fleet.

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>>55425114
I figured it would be Chaos. Darn space socialists aren't big enough to join unless there's locals.
>>55425141
>Tau
>Ultimate Savior

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>>55425163
>Hell I meet a new poly person/couple/group pretty much every anime convention I go to these last couple years.
This honestly. It's become so common that when my gf and I go to cons we are one of the only exclusive couples.

tfw catholic lolita gf who looks down on them

>> No.55425208

>>55424986
Was worth a guess, they are some notorious shills for DOW3 in the dow2 mod i play.

>> No.55425209

>>55425191
Tyrannofex seems strictly worse than an Exocrine in most cases. Apparently the math on the fleshborer hive works out great against hordes if you can get it in position to sit still and double tap, but that in itself can potentially be a struggle. I'd probably prefer to take a max termagant brood with 20 devourers.

>> No.55425212

>>55425183
Is that a crowd of naked folks in front of Bjorn?

>> No.55425215

>>55425183
What happened to bjorns arm?
I mean his dreadnought arm assholes

>> No.55425220

>>55425192
It's a good idea to sprinkle in a flyrant and perhaps one unit of venomthrope since you'll need to bunch everything to get -1 to be hit

>> No.55425229

>>55425183
holy fuck this is perfect thanks senpai

>> No.55425230

>>55425168
>>55424982
It was a Necron Lord. If it was a Nightbringer, then everyone would have died screaming. The Nightbringer leaves no survivors behind because it's extremely homicidal and psychotic. Not to forget to mention that C'tan DO NOT WALK. Walking is for mortals and lesser beings.

>"A great comet had appeared in the night sky. Something was wrong because the birds were silent. Earlier, I had read the signs that devils came. But our defenses were poor, they found the women and children in the barn. They were steel daemons; they had skills in place of their faces. They made no sound. Soli, my son, thought they were dream-devils. He threw his spear. It hit one of the daemons in the chest. It pointed its arm at Soli and suddenly he was wreathed in green fire. The fire ate him: he screamed so much that we ran. They began killing us; our spears and sling could not harm them. When they found the women and children their leader stepped forward. He was great and terrible, and had sewn the seeds of terror amongst us so that we could not speak. He singled out Ghara, the unlucky child. She was crying: the other children crawled away from her. The leader of the steel devils picked her up. He did not kill her bur held her tight, covering her with his shroud. He walked away, and his people began to kill again. I hid in the cellars with my wife. When we came out the next day there was no-one life. The steel daemons had gone."

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>>55425204
>tfw catholic lolita gf who looks down on them
Good, she should.

>> No.55425236 [DELETED] 

>>55425177
>muh degenerate buzzword
I've come to notice the only people who use this word unironically tend to be unattractive jealous betas buttmad they aren't getting laid.

>> No.55425246 [DELETED] 

>>55425236
Just a married man with religious conviction here, but okay.

>> No.55425253

>>55425191
>>55425209
Keep in mind the Codex drops in the next month or two and may bring some major changes.

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>>55425215
It's on Magnus' base

>> No.55425263

pure melee tyranids? possible? Love nids but hate the look of most of their ranged weapons.

>> No.55425264

>>55425107
I CAN FEEL IT COURSING THROUGH MY VEINS

>> No.55425273

>>55425263
Run lots and lots of Genestealers. It can be done.

>> No.55425279

>>55425182
The Death Guard have to steal gene-seed from loyalists just to make ends meet since their own are so mutated/rotten. Tyranids literally just have to eat anything or simply deploy from biomass reserves. Armies of billions whipped up overnight is their whole thing.

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>>55425264
I wish I could feel it.

>> No.55425283

>>55425256
So Magnus has two eyes after all.

>> No.55425288

>>55425212
>>55425215
>genuinely not knowing about the legions of pathetic serfs who live in totalitarian squalor in 40k

Fucking kids, man. Or did you think the space wolves round Robin who does dishes and takes the trash out?

>his sarcophagus is being armed and maintained

>> No.55425294

>>55425283
He's got multiple head options all of which are canon. He's the Daemon Primarch of the god of mutation and change, he can morph his face at will.

>> No.55425296

>>55425197
They saw it as poisoned. Which, you know, it was. Just like the Death Guard.

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>>55425130
>two bisexual girls who are dating me and each other

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>>55425283
Depends on the face you pick for him.

>> No.55425301

>>55424820
Plebbit's the other way sir.

>> No.55425303

>>55425283
He can be literally anything, even a Loli

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>>55425283
He comes with a cyclops head option.
>>55425288
Didn't know they were mostly naked. I assumed they would at least wear monk robes.

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>>55425246
>religious conviction
Talk about irrelevant rhetoric

>> No.55425318

>>55425301
>making San Andreas references is Reddit tier
Is nothing sacred anymore?

>> No.55425323

>>55425296
Then they would have left it to its fate rather than bombard it to ruin.

>>55425279
The Death Guard already have stores filled with stolen and usable legion geneseed. They have enough geneseed to maintain their WHOLE AND INTACT legion. It's not a nig lose for them.

>> No.55425327

>>55425144
>>55425298
Thank you guys for providing credence to my whole post about how I feel out of place going into hobby stores sometimes because of these awkward betas and shit who have apparently rarely seen a real female in person let alone a guy dating two of them who plays their nerd games.

I don't know why our hobby has to be so infested with genetic failures.

>> No.55425333

Being that the command Re-Rolls stratagem states "You can re-roll any single dice." What's stopping me from making my opponent re-roll their armor save / charge / etc. ?

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55425340

>>55425310
>not wanting to form the threefold cord of man, woman and god

>> No.55425341

Thus the thread is derailed by a raging faggot with trups

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Gotta get ten alpha legionaries, five terminators, and 2 Hqs done tonight
Gimme some good shit to listen to so I can get in the zone to paint

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>>55425246

> everyone has to live up to my morals

> my religion, out every religion to have ever existed, is the only correct one

> there is a problem with society as a whole because some people try new things

You people are the worst.

>> No.55425350

>>55425327
>awkward betas
>rarely seen a real female in person
>genetic failures
You're starting to project pretty hard anon, you might want to tone it back a bit

>> No.55425351

>>55425288
Didn't think space wolves treated their serfs that badly based on fluff some legions treat theirs really well, I figured they would be one of them.

>> No.55425356

>>55425310
Please don't get that faggot going I didn't reply to him for a reason.

>> No.55425358

>>55425340
Only if god turns out to be a 8/10 qt trap

>> No.55425360

>>55425341
As is tradition.

>> No.55425362

>>55425327
Oh wow I'm sure your such an alpha Mr. Chad. Please school us on how to be a polygamist degenerate who will probably neck himself by 40.

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>>55425341
It's such a common occurance these days. World's going crazy.

>> No.55425373

>>55425341
Welcome to /40kg/ at around midnight est

>> No.55425375

>>55425350
>projection meme
Ah, the old cycle continues.

>> No.55425380

>>55425341
We're heading into the far hours of the night, it's to be expected.

>> No.55425387

>>55425367
Fucking hell toothpasteland, sort yourselves out. Closet nurglites.

>> No.55425388

>>55425333
Q: Can I use the Command Re-roll Stratagem to re-roll
a dice roll made by my opponent?
A: No.
Note that the rules assume that a player always rolls their own
dice (instead of asking their opponent, for example, to roll hit
rolls, saving throws, etc. on their behalf). That being the case,
you can only use the above-mentioned Stratagem to affect dice
rolls you make, and not those made by your opponent.

>> No.55425389

>>55425333
The FAQ stated you cannot do this.

>> No.55425391

>>55425345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7mNmiW9qts&list=PL6f9tfaUM5yNUKkeHe2iwQG8bdXaxA5Hw&index=25

>> No.55425397

>>55425367
Who knew Eastern Europeans were so hygienic, must be all those beets they eat

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>>55425327
>awkward betas and shit who have apparently rarely seen a real female in person let alone a guy dating two of them
>genetic failures

>> No.55425399

>>55425375
projection isn't a meme, but something tells me you've been accused of that many times before if you think it's a meme

>> No.55425404

>>55425345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct8ZneW-Qoo

>> No.55425406

>>55425341
The thread was derailed way earlier by the local blogposter.

>> No.55425408

>>55425345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir_BVxBz5do&index=41&list=PL6f9tfaUM5yNUKkeHe2iwQG8bdXaxA5Hw

>> No.55425415

>>55425345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9-516Qi1Uo&t=1868s

>> No.55425419

>>55425362
Calm down, jealousy is pathetic. Work on improving yourself instead of immaturely lashing out at others who are better off than you.

>> No.55425420

>>55425345
You didn't specify what you wanted so I'm just dropping shit I like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df6lSXzv9lI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_FhwS43IYE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogsAP4qMChA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW7J8TLpa2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moHDysaP_98

>> No.55425426

>>55425345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yTiHs96Dyg&index=45&list=PL6f9tfaUM5yNUKkeHe2iwQG8bdXaxA5Hw

>> No.55425433 [DELETED] 

>>55425346
Not gonna stop me from spreading the good news, anon.

>> No.55425435

>>55425345
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mZArvYM3ntE

Just this on loop

>> No.55425438

>>55425345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MQfTawVLeI&index=52&list=PL6f9tfaUM5yNUKkeHe2iwQG8bdXaxA5Hw

>> No.55425442

>>55425419
Just a rule of thumb, but in the real world, if you have to say that others are jealous of you, they probably aren't and you probably just made yourself look like a fuckwit. Which you just did.

>> No.55425448

>>55425438
mein neger

>> No.55425450

>>55425345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXl5x1edtRk

>> No.55425451

>>55425399
Generally it's the ones who are projecting who will pre-emptively accuse another anon of projection. Because that's exactly what projection is in the first place. It's kind of elegant in how meta it is, but it's become such a common practice amongst autists looking to start arguments on this site it has indeed achieved meme status.

>> No.55425459

>>55425420
Preferably something non music since nothing can trump dragon force for hype music, but I appreciate all links

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>>55425387
The toothpaste people are a bunch of savages, m8. The Spanish couldn't tame them, the Austrians failed to civilize them, and the pilgrims choose hardship in America over windmills, tulips, wooden shoes, and chocolate on toast. Now the Dutch must find new sickening ways. I might get canned for this image.
>>55425397
Beets and vodka are essential.

>> No.55425464

>>55425345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ant-lZvXtdE&list=PL6f9tfaUM5yNUKkeHe2iwQG8bdXaxA5Hw&index=65

>> No.55425472

>Being situated right next to the Eye of Terror would, for most factions in the 41st Millennium, be seen as a death sentence, but Agripinaa stands firm even with Cadia destroyed. The warriors of Agripinaa are dauntless, famed for their expertise in defensive warfare. Perhaps more ominously, Agripinaa is known for the ferocious rate at which it produces Servitors, expending them with a ruthless lack of remorse and never short of new raw material thanks to “volunteers” from the unfortunate refugee vessels that orbit the world following the fall of Cadia.

What the fuck? Forcefully turning Cadian refugees into combat servitors? What's wrong with the Imperium? Justify this, Imperialfags.

>> No.55425479

>>55425419
Dude, you just called everyone here and/or their friends "genetic failures"

And you wonder why people are calling a shithead? Are you actually on the spectrum because not understanding that insults generally piss people off is on it

>> No.55425485

>>55425461
Goddamn, and I thought brits were fucked. TV liscenses ain't got shit on this.

>> No.55425488

>>55425461
>that pic
Sometimes I can understand why /pol/fags are /pol/fags.

>> No.55425493

>>55424232
My faggot friend uses a relic contemptor and it seems pretty good

>> No.55425501

>>55425345
Damn got a lot of mostly good shit
Well I'm off, wish me luck /tg/, might post updates so the late night crowd can tell me how shite my painting is

>> No.55425502

>>55425479
He's done this before. He definitely has some flavor of high intensity aspergers.

>> No.55425505

>>55425442
I didn't have to say anything, your previous post was literally "envious madposting: the post" in its most essential form.

Or are you going to tell me you had no emotional motivation to sarcastically call me "Mr. Chad", a degenerate, and then top it off by assuring yourself I will surely commit suicide by 40 to make yourself feel better.

Good god man stop being so transparent. I'm gonna stop replying now so you can cool off.

>> No.55425510

>>55425451
Yeah, but when someone starts calling everyone "awkward betas and shit who have apparently rarely seen a real female in person" and "genetic failures" because they don't believe some things he's then it might just be projecting.

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>>55425461
>that pic
What the actual fuck

>> No.55425525

>>55425433
Plastic Sisters of Battle?

>> No.55425530

>>55425488
Why do you think they're so prolific these days? I prefer to keep my head out of this shitfest of extremist politics, but the harder people push one side, the more they make of the other end. Shit like what that anon posted is why otherwise normal people pick up heavy identitarian political views and push back with hard conservatism.

>> No.55425534

>>55424704
I enjoy it too. I think the lack of core content at launch was the weakest part. Sadly standard for AAA titles these days. At least it's functional, which is more than I can say for other things I've bought on release.

Would have been nice to just have those added options on release - it's still odd to me that they haven't announced any plans for additional factions. With a game like R6 Siege for example, you have the developer laying out their content release plans for the immediate and far future so people know what to look forward to and also don't feel like "this is all I get" and ditch out.

...Also, I find the hardest thing about preserving squads is just having to physically redirect them from combat to go to a reinforce area. I wish there was a hotkey you could hit to just have a unit walk towards a rally point without having to select it and manually direct it. Could allow you to 'retreat' with the hotkey towards your nearest base, essentially. Would go a long way for ease of play.

The best thing they ever did for me was put those custom skins in and helmet options. I couldn't get over everyone having to use blood ravens specific dudes, etc no matter what army colors you were using.

>> No.55425535

>>55425472
>failing to protect cadia
>given another chance to serve the emperor and redeem themselves
I see no problem with this

>> No.55425537

>>55425505
>I didn't have to say anything
But you did. Which speaks volumes on how defensive you are of your imaginary dream world anime harem lifestyle. And the fact that you legitimately think you can go around acting like some internet tough guy without people mocking you? Where the fuck do you think the gorilla warfare pasta came from? From delusional fucks like you who are utterly lacking in self-awareness and seek validation from internet people like some sort of twisted psychoanalysis concept except without the obsession with incestuous sex. That's what you are. Take the noose.

>> No.55425539

>>55425525
I think we are more likely to get the Squats back and plastic SoB at this point.

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>>55425485
I told you the Dutch were savages.
>>55425488
It's not hard.
>>55425511
The best tv of Holland!

>> No.55425554

>>55425472
They need extra servitors to keep out the literal legions of hell currently rushing out of the giant daemonic asshole in the sky, and if they fail all those refugees will be in for far worse.

Easy.

>> No.55425556

>>55425542
Dude I think it's time that Kim reconsiders shooting at the US and just fires all his nukes at Europe. I'm gonna ask that one north korean poster on /pol/ if he can get the message through to King Nork.

>> No.55425562

>>55425537
Posts like this would be a lot more impressive if they didn't immediately miss the mark by predicating the entire thing on the belief that my relationship is an "imaginary dream world anime harem lifestyle" lol.

>> No.55425572

>>55425502
I don't think I've even really discussed this topic at length here before so I'm not sure you've got the right guy, anon.

>> No.55425578

>>55425562
I'm sure your perfect relationship is absolutely viable in the long run and totally exists in the real world timmy. Hold on a second, didn't you say that you were gonna fuck off? Topkek, fucker tries to take the moral high ground and fucks it up anyways. Embarrassing.

>> No.55425579
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55425579

>>55425556
>implying that poster isn't Kimmy
I have seen projects and yeah I think Kimmy can do it. He better fire his load at the Netherlands.

>> No.55425583

>>55425556
But anon, if we nuke Europe who will make warhammer?
or not shit bier?

>> No.55425585
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55425585

I hope everyone here dies in a fire, including myself.

>> No.55425594

>>55425583
The brits are on an island, remember? Just nuke the mainland and 40k will still exist. Can't help you with that beer though

>> No.55425600

>>55425542
Is there really no outrage in the country over this? Are they that far gone?

>> No.55425601

>>55425578
Well now I'm just amused at how obsessively invested you are in "winning" this argument on the internet, since you gave me such a completely serious wall of fucking text in the last post, lol.

>> No.55425608
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55425608

Wanting to eventually have 3k of Primaris, but have about half of this right now.

How does this look for an 2.5k Imperial Fist list? Looking for critique and ideas.

>> No.55425610

>>55425583
Just hit parts of Europe.
>UK: hit London
>Krautistan: everything that isn't Bavaria but mostly Berlin and especially Frankfurt
>France: Paris
Name your targets.

>> No.55425612

>>55425601
What argument? There is no argument, unless you consider someone mocking you with extreme intensity to be an argument. I'm just here to laugh at you, you insecure fuck.

>> No.55425615

Looking to make a 1000 point Necron list. Is there any kind of template I can use to start off and build from there?

Any units to grab no matter what, or any to avoid like the plague?

>> No.55425618

>>55425562
Hello, I'm the one that posted the "(X) Doubt" jpg. I'm only barely paying attention to all this shitflinging, but the reason I posted it is that what you claim is a very uncommon form of relationship and sounds like it is pulled out of the claimants ass. If you didn't want people sperging out, you shouldn't have posted much in the way of details, because on an anonymous imageboard (one known for people posting bullshit and banter, no less) there is no true way to substantiate your claim without doing some really retarded shit.

Less is more. Just leave it be. If it's true, good on you dude, hope that works out. Otherwise, no one really cares, and you've already met the "at worst" scenario.

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>>55425600
There most likely is but its silenced.

>> No.55425628

>>55425612
That's really funny considering all of your posts sound incredibly angry and desperate and ironically reveal a lot of weird issues you seem wrapped up in that have nothing to do with anything I've said, like what the fuck was that thing about incestuous sex?? In the same post you accused me of being like the guy who wrote the gorilla warfare pasta, that in itself was like the gorilla warfare pasta. This is amazing.

>> No.55425629

>>55425351
>but I thought they were nice T.T

Homeboy is lobotomized, who gives a shit.

>> No.55425630
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55425630

Does anyone here have experience with building Tyranid Brigades? Trying to come up with an effective and diversified list that still fits within 2000 points and sorta struggling to keep in the Swarmlord inside, but he's the backbone of every single list I've played and I don't want to leave the poor guy in the cold.

>> No.55425634

>>55425615
Overlord
Cryptek
Warrior/Immortals
Triarch Stalker
Ghost ark.

That'll be the core of basically every necron list.

>> No.55425644

>>55425610
> franfurt and Berlin
I can't fucking argue there, everywhere else is chill, I even love Hamburg despite it being hype progressive
>my face when the second highest ranked super smash bros player in Germany shows me around Hamburg buying me free Astra
>my digga

>> No.55425649

>>55425628
Being unable to detect what someone's emotions are in their posts without projecting your own feelings onto it is a sign of autism. Just letting you know. Being unable to understand contextual clues and references is not only a sign of autism but dyslexia. Sounds like someone's mother took a few too many shots of heroin when someone was in her belly.

>> No.55425656

>>55425629
I just figured they treated them well based on how well they treat civilians, It's like finding out the Salamanders are massive dicks to their serfs and the marines melevolent give their serfs beer and lolipops it just seems out of character.

>> No.55425660

>>55425618
You're right dude, I'll drop it. The other guys spergfit was just really fascinating to witness, I apologize for feeding him and shitting up the thread.

>> No.55425667

>>55425660
This is the second time you're claiming that you'll stop posting. Just putting that out there for everyone to see.

>> No.55425678

>>55425660
Right on. I honestly don't give a fuck what you do with your life, so long as you aren't breaking the law and shit. We're here to talk about small plastic future soldiers who we pretend shoot each other by rolling dice.

>> No.55425683

>>55425630
How are you deploying Swarmy? Spore pod or on foot with Tyrant Guard?

>> No.55425688

>>55425674
But insulting his relationships and watching him adamantly defend them while flailing his arms around like a sub-IQ retard is funny.

>> No.55425693

>>55425678
>pretend
>he doesn't mount small micro firearms in his marines and green laser pointers in his lasguns
Fucking casual

>> No.55425695

>>55425630
Swarmy
Malanthrope
Malanthrope

Elite
Tyrant Guard
Hive Guard
Deathleaper

Troops
Whatever

Fast
Spore mine
Spore mine
Spore mine

HS
Carnifex
Carnifex
Carnifex

That's 1100 without the troops
If DenimLooters are your thing, bring a broodlord

>> No.55425697

>>55425683
On foot with Tyrant Guard. If I use the pod, he's usually too far away to help anything.

>> No.55425702

>>55425693
>not inventing an actual bolter and shooting your opponent to win the game
Why even play if your not gonna put 100% into it.

>> No.55425706

>>55425688
Nevermind. I deleted the post. I'm dropping any argument I have, it's not worth it.

>> No.55425721

>>55425702
>not making pacts with dark gods to fill yourself with eldritch energy and using your daemon possessed body to consume your opponent's soul
Sounds like a boring meta senpai-chan

>> No.55425730

My first attempt at a DG list. Give me some pointers.

<Battalion Detachment>

Typhus - Master-crafted Manreaper, Destroyer Hive, Putrescent Vitality, Blades of Putrefaction, Living Plague - 175
Chaos Lord - The Supperating Plate, Powerfist, Plasma Pistol - 93

Poxwalkers x20 - 120
Poxwalkers x20 - 120
Plague Marines x7 - Blight Launcher x2, Flail of Corruption x2, Power Fist, Plasma Pistol, Icon of Despair - 210

Tallyman - Plasma Pistol - 67
Plague Surgeon - Balesword, Bolt Pistol - 65
Blightlord Terminators x5 - Blight Launcher, Flail of Corruption, Combi-bolter x3, Bubotic Axe x4 - 240

Myphitic Blight-hauler x2 - Missile Launcher, Multi-melta, Bile Spurt, Gnashing Maw - 284
Foetid Bloat-drone - Plaguespitter x2, Plague Probe - 158

Plagueburst Crawler - Plagueburst Mortar, Entropy Cannon x2, Heavy Slugger - 156
Plagueburst Crawler - Plagueburst Mortar, Entropy Cannon x2, Heavy Slugger - 156
Plagueburst Crawler - Plagueburst Mortar, Entropy Cannon x2, Heavy Slugger - 156

Total - 2000

>> No.55425735

>>55425697
>If I use the pod, he's usually too far away to help anything.
The usual combo is to bring in a big brood of melee bugs with a Trygon and drop him next to them to guarantee the turn 1 assault, but I totally understand not wanting to use such an all-in committal strat.

>> No.55425743

>>55425634
Cool, thanks for that.

>> No.55425751
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What army would Hp lovecraft play?
I think his aesthetic is split into nids, chaos, and necrons pretty evenly

>> No.55425753

>>55425730
I think you really want at least one transport to help the slow Plague Marines and footslogging Lord get where they want to go.

>> No.55425756

Do all Chapters/Legions traits actually benefit dreads in some way, even if it isn't the most useful?

i.e. I'm convinced TSons will be evil Gray Knights and have +1 to cast.

Which doesn't benefit helbrutes unless they can be made psychic in the codex

It also means Magnus causes 2d6 mortal wounds a cast of 7+

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>>55425451

>> No.55425765
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How much of your army is painted /40kg/?

>> No.55425767

>>55425345
https://furi.bandcamp.com/album/furi-original-soundtrack

>> No.55425768

>>55425751
Chaos for sure. Chaos is the closest to the truly unknowable horror, whereas 'nids are appropriately creepy to look at, but are ultimately just another living thing.

>> No.55425769

Admech codex pdf fucking when

>> No.55425779

>>55425695
This seems decent for a surprise 1500 Brigade basis. Thanks.

>>55425735
Oh, I do that, I just have him in hiding before that generally since I seem to always get seized.

>> No.55425782

>>55425769
>pdf for book that hasn't been released yet when
You tell me

>> No.55425784

>>55425472
Imperium is not good. This isn't news.

>> No.55425786

>>55425768
I mean there is some fringe horror to the nids when you think about how much of them is really out there, but chaos does it better.

>> No.55425787

>>55425743
The biggest problem you'll find is AT. Tesla destructors just don't cut it anymore so you're stuck relying on Heavy Destroyers and Doomsday Arks, although Acanthrites are an option if you go FW.

>> No.55425788

>>55425769
We just got the DG one today, so probably not soon.

>> No.55425791

>>55425751
Lovecraftian Cosmic Horror is covered more by Tyranids than either of the other two. The Chaos Gods themselves almost fit it but the armies of Chaos that you can actually play don't, they're too human and relatable. Tyranids and the Hive Mind are completely inhuman and unrelatable.

>> No.55425797

>>55425765
>painted
you should be asking how much of my army is even assembled

>> No.55425806

>>55425751
Genestealer Cults.

>> No.55425812

>>55425753
I'll be using the lord to give rerolls of 1 to the plagueburst crawlers so he'll be stick back.

What could I cut to get a rhino in there?

>> No.55425817

>>55425765
I have about 5500 points painted

With about 30 models I want to have finished, but they are all WIP conversions

Palador conversions
Stormfiend Conversions
Warptalon Conversions
Bullgryn/Spawn Conversions
Magnus Conversion

>> No.55425818

>>55425656
If it helps, the Salamanders are only bro tier to humans. IIRC there was a snippet of Vulkan incinerating a defenseless Xenos mother and her child without a hint of doubt or remorse.

>inb4 original and hilarious "purge the xeno" memes

>> No.55425820

>>55424722
It looks grey to me, am I colorblind? I can see green usually, so is it just a weird shade of green?

>> No.55425822

>>55425768
>>55425786
Chaos has too many person-like characters (including even the Gods themselves) which have obvious egos, personalities, individual names, evil but understandable thought processes... they're not really Lovecraftian at all. More Milton-esque demons than bizarre alien things from beyond the furthest edges of the cold void. Whereas Tyranids are EXACTLY the latter thing.

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I haven't played 40k since 5th ed, but I recently started picking up boxes again and poking my head in this stuff. How do daemons work now? Do they still sit in reserve and teleport in over the coarse of the game? Can you just stick them all on the board now? Are Marine and Daemon armies a thing again like they were in 4th?

>> No.55425832

>>55424694
Shitty monochrome art

>> No.55425834

>>55425812
Personally I would cut the Surgeon and a few Poxwalkers.

>> No.55425842

>>55425345
Love of Chaos someone help those turtlators off their backs.

>> No.55425843

>>55425822
Except the Tyranids are understandable. They're just a living creature, they eat and breed like any other animal. The only things that's weird about them is their visage, the scope of their infestation and their extra-galactic origin.

>> No.55425845

>>55425765
1850 points of guard fully painted
The high of playing with a fully painted army, even if some units are just table top ready quality, is additive, I can't play games with unpainted models anymore without feeling guilt

>> No.55425849

>>55425818
Seems like the best way a legion should do things if you ask me.

>> No.55425862

>>55425751
Lovecraft would probably play a faction and write increadibly good lore except for some uneeded and shitty twist like they're all genestealer decendants or something

>> No.55425867

>>55425843
The Hive Mind is highly intelligent, beyond the scope of our understanding, and is completely opaque and never communicates in a way we can relate to or understand.

Chaos Gods/Daemons were born from the psyches of mortals and just represent our fears and dark desires, they're things we are intimately familiar with, and they talk and behave like people (albeit really, really unbelievably evil horrific people).

Between the two of them Tyranids are more alien and weird, more removed from humanity.

>> No.55425871

>>55425351
>>55425472


I legitimately don't know what setting you think this is. The whole grimdark thing is a meme for a reason.

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>>55425842
They are up and based, ready to be painted
Is this off the base painting just a meme or does it actually help? Trying it for my first time

>> No.55425890

>>55425806
This is the only true answer.

Genestealer Cults (and Tyranids by extension) are literally modelled after Lovecraft lore.

Chaos is modelled after classic religious literature.

>> No.55425892

>>55425867
>The Hive Mind is highly intelligent, beyond the scope of our understanding, and is completely opaque and never communicates in a way we can relate to or understand.
Sounds like a mary sue to me

>> No.55425893

>>55425867
For a highly intelligent being(?) the hivemind sure doesn't do much other than tell the hivefleet to go to some planet and consume it. It's ends are so shallow I'd hardly call that "unknowable," even if we don't understand exactly how it works.

>> No.55425897

>>55425751

Oldcrons.
They were literally the ancient eldritch horror faction.

>> No.55425899

>>55425826
To answer your questions: Poorly outside of certain lists, no, you kinda have to, and yes.

>> No.55425902

>>55425327
You're the fucking wierdo here you projecting cuntmuffin.

>> No.55425908

>>55425892
That's basically all the gods in the setting that don't belong to the eldar pantheon.

>> No.55425909

>>55425890
Yeah genestealer cults are quite obviously based on the Cthulhu cults for their doomsday properties mixed with the esoteric order of Dagon for their species mixing properties
so was the moral of innsmouth to not mix with other races because it leads to degeneracy? Not trying to /pol/ post but it seems like a really obvious message especially considering the period

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>>55425880
>The head in the hand of the bottom guy
Oh shit, he actually fucking did it

>> No.55425917

>>55425892
That's because you have no idea what that term even means.

>>55425893
>the hivemind sure doesn't do much other than tell the hivefleet to go to some planet and consume it
And not all the Lovecraft deities had completely inscrutable goals either, and neither do any of the Chaos Gods except Tzeentch who is the only one of the four who's really Lovecraftian.

>> No.55425932

>>55425909
>Not trying to /pol/ post but it seems like a really obvious message especially considering the period
Yeah Lovecraft was pretty /pol/ for most of his life, there was a lot of racist subtext (sometimes not even subtext but just outright overt shit) in his writings.

>> No.55425938

>>55425899
Rad. So if I wanted to run them with some marines can they be placed down with them still, or is it only through summoning? I know allies was a thing last edition but I'm not really sure if it's still around or how it works now if it is.

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Have a big game on Monday against an Iron Hands player running Vaylund Cal. He really only runs Primaris.

How does my list look? Sorry it's wonky looking, Battlescribe knocks it around.

>> No.55425943

>>55425751
The one with the least niggers probably, considering how much he hated them.

>> No.55425947

>>55425909
Lovecraft was super racist so yeah probably

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>>55425880
Well, your stuff doesn't have flowing robes, chains, or crap that make it hard for a brush to get into even with a terminator size base getting in the way.

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>>55425916
Was gonna do a chaos head but standard marine heads are just a tad too big to look right
But tartaros heads are slightly smaller and it fits just right, like he's gently cradling it, too bad I modeled him looking forward before someone gave me the idea

>> No.55425965

>>55425938
You're gonna be placing them down, unless you build a list around summoning due to how summoning works. Alliances has been done completely differently this edition, and only things with matching keywords can be in the same army now.

>> No.55425982

>>55425957
>this is you in 30seconds,loyalist

>> No.55425986

can I get some list critique please?
2,000 PTS IMPERIAL GUARD::
------------------------------------------------------------
Creed

Tank commander x2 (1 battle cannon and 1 punisher) both heavy flamer sponsons battle cannon

2x infantry with vox caster

infantry no upgrades

bullgrynsX2 slabshield and maul

commisar w/maul

2x three man special weapons squads with demo charge and 2 flamers

2x basilisks

x2 chimera heavy flamer, multi-laser, and storm-bolter

leman russ battle cannon w/heavy flamer sponsons

manticore

leman russ demolisher w/ heavy flamer sponsons
-----------------------------------------------------------
Idea is bullgryns ad special weapon squads roll out in the chimera and tie up any melee units and the tanks run around flamering things on both sides of the board while the 3 squads sit back and protect the basilisks and manticore.

suggestions?

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>sit down to paint at night like alpha legion anon
>get anxious/horny, usually end up stopping after like 30 minutes to go walk/ jerk off/ make a booty call
Anyone else get like this or do I just have ADD, I can really only get good painting done early in the morning before classes

>> No.55426022

>>55425986
For sure give one ogryn a brutesheild to take unvulns
Also I know you might not have the models but consider going to 4 since a chimera seats 12, you may as well hit as hard with your discount termies as you can

>> No.55426024

>>55426007
Might wanna consider taking ritalin dude

>> No.55426030

>>55425892
You need to brush up on what Mary Sue means.

I suggest reading up on Khayon

>> No.55426035

>>55426007
I only masturbate like once a week now that I'm 28. feels depressed man.

>> No.55426036

>>55424837

>Necrons being infected by disease

fucking seriously?

>> No.55426040

>>55426022
I just don't want to over commit and get my hopes up with ACTUAL RETARDS IN SPACE

>> No.55426045

>>55425301
>muh secret internet club

>> No.55426054

>>55426036
Nurgle made contagious rust.

That's how DG do mortal wounds to necrons and vehicles

>> No.55426059

>>55426045
Not so much sekrit klub as it just is wanting redditors to stay where they belong.

>> No.55426070
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>>55426040
Bullgryns are great IF you can get them into combat
I had a single unit beat a fucking master of the watch to death in one round, they will absolutely tear apart anything lower than T8

>> No.55426072

>>55426030
Nothing Mary Sue about the greatest psyker, lol ahrimanlet, with A DE waifu, Daemon waifu, some kind of hyper intelligent one of a kind human AI hybrid who always wins, that every female character wants to mount and every male character respects or hates (and the only ones who hate him are losers LOL)


God he's such a shit character

>> No.55426085

>>55426035
I was like that then I made some lifestyle changes, started to feel better about myself, jerked off a lot more afterwards

>> No.55426086

>>55426070
No memes? You are 100% not fucking with me on this, bullgryns are worth the risk?

>> No.55426089

>>55425630
Swarmlord.
Genestealers
Hrmogaunts
Keep homos in sybapse range. They get a 6" consolidate.

>> No.55426091

>>55426072
You forgot how he claims to be more powerful than Ahriman, and defeated Magnus. How does one write that without realizing how stupid it sounds?

>> No.55426096

>>55426070
Also that bullgryn looks great

>> No.55426098

>>55426086
The fuck?
They're 3wound T5 term is with 2d power mauls at S7
Of course they wreck face

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>>55425892
>Sounds like women to me.
Fixed that for you, anon.

>> No.55426110

>>55426086
They are not conscript and scion tier, and are hurt more by not having a great transport outside of Valkyrie's since chimeras are sub par now
But they have stats very similar to terminators and cost less while having an extra wound, strength, and inch of movement
They are fucking fantastic models that are very kitbash friendly, and like I said, they will pretty much eat any infantry they charge, adding some great melee fun to mostly shooty guard

>> No.55426115

>>55426098
I know they wreck face its just i'm always REEEEAAAALLLL conservative when using anything even kinda melee in guard

>> No.55426119

>>55426109
>women
>highly intelligent
Choose like one my dude

>> No.55426124

>>55426070
>step aside guardlets because it's big nigga ogryn season

>> No.55426125

>>55426115
Strakken would like a word with your bitch ass

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>>55426070
>diabeetus

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>>55426119
Friendo

>> No.55426136

>>55426125
Straken got pooped on by some shitty fire warriors in my last game vs tau I'm not even going to look at him for a while......

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>>55426096
Thanks man, here's the rest of the squad mostly finished
Like I said, fucking top3 infantry models across all of 40k in my opinion

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>>55426119
Don't need to

>> No.55426182

>>55426156
Painting your Ogryns black is racist dude, just because they're both dumb and strong doesn't mean you have to point out their similarities.

>> No.55426187

>>55426115
They are basically a great delaying unit
They can push ahead and force your enemy to pay attention to them, drawing fire and keeping them back while your gunline blasts them, they don't even need to much support unlike units such as straken or buffed up conscript blobs

>> No.55426188

>>55426175
What does an ork warboss have to do with the post you replied to?

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>>55425941
>3492
Literally "big"

>> No.55426198

>>55426182
>BONE'ead is black
>literally enhanced to be smarter than standard ogryns

>> No.55426215

>>55426198
>needs enhancement to be smart at all
Racist

>> No.55426226

>>55426215
Ogryns have equality they can go die for the emperor like the rest of us. And beastmen are not people so I can't be racist to them.

>> No.55426236

>>55424054

I recognize that neckbeard in the back. Not my shop but one nearby, likely. The guy runs an entire apocalypse grade ork mob of only converted deffskull vehicles. By himself he furnished nearly three fourths of a 40,000 point apocalypse game.

>> No.55426294
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Most patrician chapter from this sector for my primaris dudes?

>> No.55426317

>>55426294
>buys death guard codex for a loyalist chapter
I-is this heresy?

>> No.55426321

>>55426294
If you do hawk lords you can use FW shoulderpads on your dudes to save a ton of freehanding.

>> No.55426332
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>>55425735
>>55425695
>>55426089
Here's the Brigade I've sort of settled into as of now, how does it look?

>> No.55426334

>>55426321
was thinking the same thing, didn't realize they had FW pads with the raven guard emblem, was just looking at the transfers but then I'd have to deviate from their usual gold and make their emblem black or silver. I'm under the impression hawk lords wouldn't deviate from the codex so I'll check for those shoulders.

>> No.55426355

>>55424046
She's not supposed to look better in that way. She's an alien. It's great how exotic Eldar are compared to elves in other settings. If anything, they should be even more uncanny. The further from humans, the better.

>> No.55426428

do you think I can use lord of contagion models for my deathshroud? they go for practically nothing on ebay

>> No.55426448

>>55426428
Yes but you'd need to do something so that you're not in monopose hell

>> No.55426455

How hard is it to convert a Lord of Contagion to Typhus, to a tournament-acceptable degree?

Tired of waiting for GW to start selling him again and I'm too cheap for a morty right now.

>> No.55426469

>>55426455
they cost like 30 bucks on ebay for the metal chinaman ones. I got one and like it a lot

>>55426448
yeah I will have to think about that, but I will probably be lazy and just give them different capes

>> No.55426483

>>55426448
how do you feel about chaos spawn as beasts of nurgle?

>> No.55426524
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55426524

In the grim darkness of the far future, everyone with the same wargear is monopose.

>> No.55426564

>>55425756
>i.e. I'm convinced TSons will be evil Gray Knights and have +1 to cast.

It won't, seeing how it doesn't benefit dreads/tzaangors.

It will be 5++/+1 invu.

>> No.55426619

>>55426072
It only makes sense when you realize he's just another ranting heretic in a dungeon making wild shit up.

>> No.55426674

>>55426524
To get that amount of detail you'll have to cut down on the poseability.

If I'm mistaken show me proof.

>> No.55426683

>>55426674
This isn't cutting down on posesability, this is literally just monopose. Cutting down on poseability is shit like Scarab Occults.

>> No.55426750

>1. Lord of the Silver Tower: Warlod can take an additional relic
>2. Walker of the Paths(Ahriman): Warlord and D3 additional units gain deepstrike
>3. Master of the Rubricae: Units within 6" from the Warlord can benefit from All is Dust bonus regardless of Damage value of the attack
>4. Grand Schemer: Whenever enemy uses a Strategem, roll a D6. On a 4+, they lose an additional Command Point
>5. Psychic Onslaught: Warlord can try to manifest Smite in your shooting phase
>6. Arch-Sorcerer(Magnus): Units within 9" can reroll failed psychic tests

Y/N?

>> No.55426763

>>55426683
For all we know these could just be copy pasted for that pic.

>> No.55426768

>>55426750
Sounds like it could be pretty neat. I'd be down.

>> No.55426772

>>55426763
I take that back, I'm seeing differences.

>> No.55426776

>>55426750
You've got two titles that apply to Ahriman as Warlord traits and you gave him the one that's less iconic.
Why?

>> No.55426777

>>55426334
The mk IV shoulders fit the multipart primaris just fine, inceptors and aggressors you'll need transfers or indomitus terminator pads but the FW legion sheet does have gold symbols on the sheet, it's just a soft gold instead of bright

>> No.55426779

>>55426524
The posability of the DG is a shame but the terminators in that pic were duplicated in photoshop. This is an old trick GW uses to showcase armies. Take a close look at the bases.

>> No.55426780

>>55426750
Master of the Rubricae is too good. Walker of the Paths doesn't really make sense. Psychic Onslaught should just be manifesting Smite twice each psychic phase, both casts only count as casting one power that phase.

>> No.55426803

>>55426779
Good catch, makes me wonder just how much this was done in the SM codex....

>> No.55426831

>>55426777
Lucky trips for sage advice, nice

>> No.55426851

>>55426777
its been settled by trips

>> No.55426856

>>55426776
Because that's what he had in 7th.

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>>55426851
Bonus round: if you dislike Reiner skull hats, the beak helms do fit

>> No.55426878

>>55426856
Oh.
That's odd, I thought everyone knew Ahriman as Master of the Rubricae, I know the other title applies too I just thought the Rubric one was more iconic.

>> No.55426967

>>55425345
Mind posting your painting guide for these puppies?.

>> No.55426973

Still no DG Codex in Mega?

>> No.55426979

>>55426870
Fuck, if only I had that many beakies.

>> No.55426998

>>55425957
Is it just the angle or you didn't file off the little head nub for gluing/posing and shouldn't be on a helmet with no head in it.

>> No.55427027

>>55426973
Look at the bottom of the OP.

>> No.55427108

>>55387355 (OP)
Hey. I recently got a great deal on some Genestealer Cults but have been losing terribly each time I play them at 1500. Are they just not great right now? I know I need to get more Purestrain Genestealers but all of my games haven't even been close. I am getting outshot AND out melee'd almost every game even when I get optimal ambush rolls. Here is my list. I have played Tau, Grey Knights, and Dark Eldar.

Also how would I deal with Flyers as GSC? Bring in a Hydra from Astra Mil?

It's two Battalions.

HQ
Primus
Patriarch
Magus 2x Familiars
Icon Ward

Troops
10x Neophytes 7 with Shotguns 2 with Seismic 1 leader with web pistol and power pick
12 Neophytes 2x Mining laser 2x grenade launcher
12 Neophytes 2x mining laser
10 acolytes 2x Rock Saw 1x leader with Lash and Bonesword
5 acolytes 2x Demolition Charges
5 acolytes 2x Demolition Charges

Elites
6 Hybrid Metamorphs 3x whips 3x Metamorphs Claw, Cult Icon (had some extra points, I know they are too expensive)
10 Genestealers

Transport
2x Goliath with demolition cache, Assault Cannon, Heavy Stubber

THINGS I OWN NOT IN THIS LIST

Aberrants 2x pick 2x hammer
Patriarch
Scout Sentinels with Autocannon and saw
1 more acolyte with whip and Bonesword
Leman Russ Twin Autocannon, Lascannon, Stubber, 2xMulti Meltas

>> No.55427138

>>55426332
Tr y homogaunts. T
You wont be disappionted

>> No.55427164

>Playing at FLGS.
>Playing Blood Ravens.
>Sort of an in joke thing to tell me I painted my Blood Angels or Raven Guard wrong.
>Everyone has a good laugh whenever it's brought up.
>Friends says I painted my Blood Angels wrong.
>Everyone laughs.
>New Guy walks up to the only Blood Angels player in the store.
>No one has ever seen this guy before.
>New Guy says Blood Angels player painted his Blood Ravens wrong.
>Everyone awkwardly laughs, thinking New Guy is trying to fit in.
>New Guy gets upset.
>New Guy starts screaming at everyone.
>New Guy goes on a rant.
>Says he was standing up for me because I wouldn't do so.
>We try to calm him down and explain the in joke.
>He gets more irate.
>Have to stop him from breaking one of the Blood Angels player's Baal tanks.
>New Guy gets banned from the store by the owner.
>New Guy shouts at the owner about how he was defending me.
>Owner yells back at New Guy, once more bringing up that it was a joke.
>New Guy gets more pissed.
>Owner tells New Guy to get off the property.
>New Guy says its public property and he can be here.
>By now someone is calling the cops.
>I'm at my table just starring at New Guy.
>What the fuck is wrong with this guy?
>Cops show up and arrest New Guy for trespassing.
>New Guy shouts he's going to sue the Owner of the FLGS.
>Everyone is just starring at New Guy.

Seriously, wtf. It was the most surreal moment of my wargaming life. Hadn't seen anything go down like this since I stopped going to YuGiOh tournaments after a kid insisted I stole some cards from him when they were cards I had since I started YuGiOh and weren't even that good. Has anyone else had similar experiences? I know they don't happen often and are fairly rare from my experience. Like, 99.9% of the 40k community are fairly chill.

>> No.55427181
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>>55426524
>Implying anon even converts it's miniatures
>Implying people who actually make conversions won't personalise their armies
Weak bait

>> No.55427229
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>>55427164
>Someone brings up Malific Lords and how people want to either ban FW or get some nerfs
>The only 2 FW only players in the store both go into sperg rage mode, yelling that FW isn't over powered and that they spent lots of money so they should get overpowered units
>start demanding people to show them the Lords so they can show how fair they are
>no one has the FW books because they are the only FW players there
>the store owner asks them to calm down because they are yelling into people faces
>they start to turn on him but he's a ex iron worker biker
>they both slink away and not talk to anyone else the rest of the night

This is why I think FW players are all fucking children.

Pic related. Plays only Relic Leviathan Dreadnought and Thunderfire Cannons.

>> No.55427271

>>55427138
so is the homoguant consolidation what makes them worthwhile? I don't play nids but I am curious

>> No.55427290

>>55427229
Damn dude. The only FW model I use is Gabriel Angelos, and that's because he's one of only two existing Blood Ravens models. Although we have a few FW players in our group, the worst being the local Tau player. Although he recently stopped playing Tau because 'they suck this edition'.

>> No.55427292

>>55427271
Check out Frontline Gaming 560 podcast.

>> No.55427296

>>55425765
shut up, you're not my dad. 2 units of blob infanty, and 1 leman russ so far

>> No.55427305
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>>55427290
That fucking models face.

>> No.55427317

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6nAx_daJX0

Cawl now no longer requires you take <MARS>.

Ad Mech can repair knights.

Interesting.

>> No.55427326

>>55427317
1/turn but better than nothing.

>> No.55427334

>>55427317
>Cawl now no longer requires you take <MARS>.
Bullshit, he still has the MARS keyword.

>> No.55427342

>>55427305
I was originally going to buy the 'bootleg' one I found on eBay or do a conversion, but I didn't want any of the more strict players to complain that I'm not using the appropriate model.

>> No.55427348

>>55427229
People want to ban FW at my flgs, too. Mainly due to the fact theres a beardy faggot that fields FW and cheats with it.

>> No.55427354

>>55426524

Christ. I feel like I'm looking at old metal models except these are busy as fuck and shitty looking.

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>>55426524
You better be wrong anon

>> No.55427370

>>55427342
The model ia beautiful, butter face.

>> No.55427371
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>>55427317
>Cawl now no longer requires you take <MARS>.
Sorry, bro, you're wrong.

>> No.55427377

>>55427229

>have Dreadclaw for my Night Lords
>Dont use it because it's shit
>have plastic contemptor from Calth
>this is pay to win faggotry!!!

>> No.55427383

>>55427377
Jeff?

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>>55425327
Don't listen to those anons my dude. I hope you can find some semi-normal folks who play 40k. I know it can be hard to find someone who isn't an unstable mess that feels like they're in high school when they're like, 30, but heres hoping you do.

>> No.55427403

Anyone have a good Ultramarine bike list?

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>>55426524

>> No.55427423

>>55427229
Forge World is banned in tournaments at my LGS but not banned outright.
Definitely not banned because Malefic Lord.
Proxied a Malefic Lord recently for a game to test it out, with opponent/only other Forge World Players permission, didn't exactly live up to it's hype.
I get that it's a good, cheap psyker HQ with access to all three R&H spells and becomes a mini-Daemon Prince when it perils, but it's also really squishy and needs to actually survive the perils and get into melee to be a credible melee threat,and one of it's powers is Warp Charge 10, the other two are WC7, and one of those is basically a smite that counts as overcharged against vehicles only while the other is a leadership debuff.
It's a good model don't get me wrong, 30 points for a psyker character is great, especially one with a 4++ that goes nuclear when it perils, but it's not overpowered.
Then again I have only started Forge World stuff recently, mostly for Sonic Helbrute but also so I can add Renegades and Heretics to my list because Chaos has no other method of gaining snipers.
Plus Renegades and Heretics are probably the weakest Forge World army at the moment, our units are basically more expensive guard with a weird leadership rule that's sometimes good and sometimes shit.

>> No.55427468

>>55425327
>tfw everyone at my LGS is relatively normie
>even a couple of female players
>and one older woman who just likes painting the models and doesn't even play the game
>the only neckbeard is a legit fatass but he hates the disgusting kind of fat people, showers regularly and even brings deodorant to take outside and put on just in case it's a hot day
It's a small LGS but I dread the day I go to another.

>> No.55427472
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We'll get some new models in the upcoming Imperial Armour? Right? maybe even a transport?

>> No.55427477

>>55427423
One Lord is fine but people are running 10 of them with cultist blobs and Magnus and mortal wound spamming them to death.

>> No.55427482

>>55424653
Mine feel kind of low quality desu and I am slightly concerned they're not gonna be weighted properly. Has GW said anything about the weighting on them?

I am half expecting people to sperg out when I bring them out

>> No.55427483

>>55427472

You can get a transport when CSM get normal drop pods.

>tfw Grey Knights are told they can convert NDKs into grand masters, but heaven forbid chaos slap a few eight point stars on some drop pods.

>> No.55427490

>>55427483
We are the only army in the game without transports. It makes less sense fluff-wise than CSM not having drop pods.

>> No.55427501

>>55427477
Why would you even buy ten of them?
It's such a chore to buy the two as is.
"Yeah I'll buy ten of them that'll be useless when they get nerfed." -fucking moron.
I built one out of leftover bits last night that I haven't painted yet and I'm going to ask the store owner if it's fine as a counts as.
It doesn't look like it belongs as any other model and it's all GW plastic though so it should be fine.

>> No.55427503
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>>55424922
Legion of the Damned is so cool.

>> No.55427517

>>55425300
My favorites the hair face.

>> No.55427526

>>55427517
The only problem is it isn't red.

>> No.55427533 [DELETED] 

>>55425346
>be a sick fuck degenerate
>look DOWN on religious people
How does it feel to be a total piece of shit?

>> No.55427542

>>55427533
Be patient with him, he has autism.

>> No.55427545 [DELETED] 

>>55427533
>be religious
>think anyone who doesn't believe in my imaginary friend must be a degenerate
Reminder that the Emperor of Mankind was a super powerful Atheist who got sick of your kind long before he rose to power.

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>>55427545
>but as you can see here, my fictional character proves you wrong! btfo! drumpf is literally voldemort!
The memes are true.

>> No.55427583

>>55427563
Mate we're in a 40k thread I'm going to use aspects of 40k during discussion regardless of how much it hurts your feelings to have your imaginary friend compared to a fictional character.

>> No.55427601

There's nothing wrong with being religious. There's nothing wrong with being homosexual. There's nothing wrong with liking 40k. The shit that's wrong with the world are the people that use such things as a licence to act like huge cunts.

People make things shit and will always do so.

>> No.55427621

>>55427583
Not even the guy you replied to originally, I just find it funny how the "liberals use fictional characters to justify their beliefs" meme is true.

>> No.55427624

>>55427621
I'm not liberal, I'm conservative.
I'm just not religious.

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Need your wisdom /tg.

I've fallen in love with the idea of Dark Mechanicus armies and want to proxy a Adeptus Mechanicus as one, allied with a huge swarm of cultists. Imperium wise, what could you proxy as "Totally-not-cultists".

>> No.55427639

>>55427164

these stories are the best, so fucking funny. i wish i had some to share but they happened so long ago i can't really remember them. there are minor bumps here and there at my flgs but they are pretty mundane. example:

> playing at flgs
> just started new campaign
> my friend is extremely excited about his eldar background
> he is also a slow player, so i do light mingling with players at the table next to us
> both players at this table are imperial fanbois
> my friend explains his eldar army bg in detail, he is quite charismatic, its quite the polished speech at this point
> imperial fanbois don't react at all to my friends speech and go back to talking about imperial crap
> the conversation between the 4 of us eventually degrades into the fanbois debating as to which imperial faction is the most incorruptible
> not being a particularly big fan of the imperium in the first place, i decide to do some light trolling and begin to start referencing memes as canon
> they understood exactly 0% of the memes, even the really old ones like The Trials Of Draigo
> i explained some of the memes and we all had a good laugh

see? uneventful as shit

>> No.55427669

>>55427164
New Guy was probably severely (or so he thinks) bullied with shit like this all the time, so he's retroactively standing up for himself, vicariously through you.

>> No.55427680

>>55427359
GW have been using photoshop to display big armies since 3rd edition. Look at the paint and base and you'll see that they are identical.

>> No.55427693

>>55427669
All I know is that it was really weird. I use to get upset at the jokes at first until I realized they were just jokes and no one was being serious. Been playing only for a few years now, since 2015. Been running Blood Ravens since the beginning, nearing 10,000 pts atm. Got into 40k through Dawn of War.

Took a break from the tabletop early this year, around March. Returned with the new edition and loving it. Waiting for the new 40k roleplay system to come out, already got a group looking to test it out with me and do a few games.

>> No.55427701

>>55427601
>*tips centrist fedora*

>> No.55427709

>>55427624
Being economically rightwing doesn't make you a conservative, just that pointing out. Lolbergtards are just capitalist liberals.

>> No.55427723

>>55427601
Shit, other Christians still give my church shit because the pastors are a gay married couple who threw a huge party at the church when gay marriage became federally legal. Guess we can't have acceptance in a religion where we worship a zombie who use to hang out with prostitutes.

>> No.55427727

>>55427164
Sounds like someone has a serious case of the 'tisms if you ask me.

>> No.55427736

>>55427709
Just because my values aren't Christian doesn't make them not traditional.
They're older than Christianity, so fuck off with your Jew on a stick so we can discuss little plastic men in a fictional universe killing each other over different gods.

>> No.55427739

>>55427727
Well, as someone who actually is autistic he has to be hardcore autistic considering how I reacted to it all and couldn't believe what was going on.

>> No.55427740

>>55427723
>bible says homosexuality is wrong
>people who follow bible are upset when homosexuality is celebrated at their place of worship in all places
>"hurr durr muh progress n shiet it's da current year gaiz"
This is why people call christians christcucks.

>> No.55427746

What should I give to my Helbrute to go along with Twin LC?
Was thinking fist with combi-bolter for a little extra dakka

>> No.55427754

>>55427736
>le le kike on a stick
This meme is so bad that not even paganLARPers use it anymore.
>y-you're a christcuck! christcuck!
Nowhere did I imply that, I'm just here to laugh at you.

>> No.55427770
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Watchers of the Throne epub when?

>> No.55427776

>>55427746
Helbrute Plasma Cannon is good, deals mortal wounds to yourself instead of slaying you.
Fun fact mortal wounds you cause yourself can make your Crazed rule go off.
>>55427754
>d-don't spout that meme it's bad
>I-I'm not really Christian I swear
All the Abrahamic faiths are cancer, you're continuing to argue for them in a 40k thread, therefor you are cancer.

>> No.55427781

>>55427754
>LARPers

They believe in more than you do.

>> No.55427795

New thread when?

>> No.55427797

>>55427776
Lemme guess, you're now going to expect me to defend myself on the basis that I'm not a christcuck and use this defensiveness as an argument that I am a christcuck in denial. Yawn.
>you're continuing to argue for them in a 40k thread, therefor you are cancer.
I'm not arguing for them, no where did I support them. I'm just laughing at how you basically acted out the "muh death star would be still around without women" meme without even realizing it.
>>55427781
PaganLARPer can't even use proper english lol. Go back to worshipping muh aryan gawdz.

>> No.55427802

>>55427795
Never.

>> No.55427840

>>55427797
>Implying I'm a pagan because racism

No, try again and that was proper English.

>> No.55427842

Posting here since the list-thread didn't respond. Now that drones are a separate unit from say Pathfinders, won't things like the pulse acceleration drone get fragged turn 1?

>> No.55427851

>>55427740
Oh, my church wasn't the people who had an issue with it. It was other churches in town that had the issue.

As for the Bible and what it says, people have been using select parts of the Holy Book for hundreds of years. The Catholics used it to control Europe and start the Crusades. It was used to justify slavery. Early Biblical hero figures even had multiple wives and married within their own family, but modern Christianity teaches that such practices will send you to hell. Adolf Hitler even used the Bible to say that his actions were perfectly acceptable. Christianity as a faith is one of contradiction throughout history.

My religion is a fucked up one and the only reason I'm a Christian is because I'm going to a church that teaches love and acceptances instead of fury and hellfire or pure hatred.

>> No.55427855

>>55427797
>"muh death star would be still around without women" meme
I've never even heard of this meme.
You're basically making shit up to defend yourself now.
If you're talking about the fact I brought up the Emperor I'd like to remind you this is the Warhammer 40k General, you off-topic shitflinging shitposter.

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>>55427855
Um try again sweetie. Pic related
Also you don't get that I would have mocked you if you said "the ecclesiarchy would have you executed you worthless heathen" too. You literally do not get that I'm just here to laugh at your ridiculous justification of your opinion. It goes so far into not an argument territory that it's at best a satirical joke. That's how fucking terrible of an argument it is.

>> No.55427873

>>55427851
>Catholics used it to start the Crusades
Don't even try to start that shit, I'm not even Christian and I know that the Crusades were retaliation against Saracens being cunts.

>> No.55427887

Guys let's feed the trolls.

>> No.55427888

>>55427870
>I'm just here to laugh at everyone else's opinion without holding my own
So you're the textbook "muh too smart to have an opinion" meme then?
Also that picture looks stupid as fuck.

>> No.55427901

8th edition.

Are horde armies (Guard Conscripts, Tyrannids and Ork Boys) broken or just overpowered?

>> No.55427913

>>55427840
We get it, you like to LARP as Lord of the Rings characters. Now quiet down Varg before I tell the French government to cut off your welfare gibs.

>> No.55427922

>>55427851
It's just such a shame that the Bible EXPLICITLY condemns men having sex with men and EXPLICITLY condemns sodomy. Unlike your beautiful violation of Godwin's Law or your "muh crewsades" shit.
>the only reason I'm a Christian is because I'm going to a church that teaches love and acceptances instead of fury and hellfire or pure hatred.
Then stop being one. Go be a marxist hippie elsewhere.

>> No.55427928
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>>55427901
Broken.

>> No.55427933

>>55427913
Lord of the Rings mythology is essentially Christian, Anon.

>> No.55427934

>>55427888
>So you're the textbook "muh too smart to have an opinion" meme then?
No, I literally just came in here to shoot a cheap insult at you and leave. That's it. I absolutely do not care about this ridiculous argument at all.
>Also that picture looks stupid as fuck.
That's the fucking point. You more or less did the same fucking thing when you said "b-but duh emperah woulda killed all dem religious peepo n shiet".

>> No.55427937

>>55427901
Broken.

The problem with them is they got rid of all the things that count hordes not that the horde units themselves are too powerful.

>> No.55427940

>>55427922
So how's that shellfish, Anon?

>> No.55427949

>>55427940
How's that outdated edition of Biblehammer 0K? You a jew or something? I don't even like shellfish anyways.

>> No.55427950

>>55427873
If I give you one of my throw away emails, would you care to enlighten me? I always thought it was because of greed and the destruction of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

>>55427922
Ah, but that would mean I can't work up people anymore by being a Christian with untraditional Christian believes. Perhaps you should come to my bedchamber and we can discuss these things more intimately.

>> No.55427957

>>55427950
>but you see, i'm just
>PRETENDING
>to be retarded
This was almost pitifully predictable. Shoo shoo, your last (You) for vaguely annoying me.

>> No.55427966

>>55427957
Or, better idea, how about I stay and we continue derailing the thread and shitposting? After all, you've entered the second stage of this boss fight, where I start flirting with you. I still have eight more stages to go.

>> No.55427970

>>55427937
I thought the biggest buff they got was the "everything can hurt everything" change.

Before the horde units couldn't touch armoured things, but now if you throw 150+ shots at a tank then something is going to stick.

>> No.55427972

@55427966
You'll start getting (You)s from me when you post something of worth. That is, never.

>> No.55427975

Mechanicus Codex in the Mega when?

Also, for frenchies and the like. Do the GW shops in french-speaking countries have Dexes in English?

>> No.55427986

>>55427972
I don't know. I can keep responding to you as long as you keep responding to me. I'm bored from studying for my test Monday and this is entertaining me.

>> No.55427995

>>55427986
>>55427972

ITS AN OLD FASHIONED AUTIST STANDOFF, 40K GENERALS BE DAMNED!

>> No.55428004

@55427986
That's a clever way of saying "I just want the last say give it to me gimme gimme gimme". Only issue with it is that it still sounds autistic as fuck. But whatever, here's your last say. Feast on it and stay in this dying thread please.

>> No.55428015

New Bread:

>>55427979

Talk about 40k you fucks

>> No.55428016

>>55427949
You're the one using Leviticus, Anon. Own any clothing made from linen and wool? Do you eat any meat with blood still in it? Do you cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard? Did you ever "dishonour" your parents, Anon?

Come on now, don't tell me you pick and choose from Leviticus?

>> No.55428025

>>55428004
No, it's just me being autistic and bored. You are aware you didn't have to respond to my lost post, right? So if I'm responding to you for the sake of shit posting to relieve my boredom, then why are you responding to me?

>>55427995
It's more like me stalling the inevitable. Eventually I'll stop getting responses. Then I'll just move to a new thread and start shitposting there.

>> No.55428035

>>55428016
Only issue with that is that most if not all of that is overwritten in Biblehammer second edition. Please do tell me where being a faggot is overwritten. No, "love thy neighbor" does not count.

>> No.55428050

>>55427770
I just downloaded it. It's good. Happy to have bought it, Wraight deserves my money.

>> No.55428071

>>55428035
Jesus said he was there to fulfill the entirety of the law. That not one bit will be changed.

It was who came after him that said otherwise.

Come on, now.

If a church has apostolic succession, they have ever right to say "Gays are ok!", because earlier they said "Some of these laws don't count anymore!" It's just one more that doesn't count.

Used to be it was a sin to eat meat on Fridays. Did you have meat last Friday, Anon?

>> No.55428108

>>55424132
I support this statement

Why are people using such stupid lists

>> No.55428122

>>55428071
>If a church has apostolic succession, they have ever right to say "Gays are ok!", because earlier they said "Some of these laws don't count anymore!" It's just one more that doesn't count.
IF, they have an apostolic succession.

Furthermore, the whole point of the Bible is that it is God's law written by man. This isn't the fucking Quran, it's more than easy to interpret it as fault of man or fault of societal context. It's unrealistic to considering eating X food to be a sin because it used to transmit disease but doesn't anymore because preparing it properly is easy now. It's not unrealistic to expect people not to engage in behavior closely linked to STDs, mental illnesses and promiscuity (also condemned in the Bible by the way).

>> No.55428125

>>55428071
>>55428122
Furthermore none of this changes the fact that the idea of marriage being a bond between Man and Wife is one that was never changed. At all. Even if you support faggotry the bible still condemns any marriage outside of one between 1 man and 1 woman. So nice try but no.

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