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Scorpio Edition
Can't use Hydra imagery without being the Alpha Legion Sub-Edition
FW has said they're not doing xenos in the HH so please don't ask. We'd helped a SAfag and an Anon wanting to pick a legion, the Fists can't use Tartaros pattern apparently, we talked about what got us liking our legions and non-marine forces and why based Zso Sahaal isn't a thing anymore, Primarch relationships were discussed and much more in the last thread >>49024139
Red Book Links:
HH Book 6 - Retribution PDF:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8aqx9j3a8erqv8d/The_Horus_Heresy_Book_6_-_Retribution.pdf or
HHG FAQ - http://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8
Official HH 7th Edition Errata (Updated January 2016) - http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Horus_Heresy_7th_Edition.pdf
Other official downloads: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads#horusheresy
HH Rules:
Crusade Army List: http://www.mediafire.com/download/1lprm5vd99yafa3/
Mechanicum Taghmata Army List: https://mega.nz/#!LFwTjQ7B!mF0eVOY8P1MPT0a-QSXypXo_ZfskhYynD41PrkaTbD8
30k/40k Rules: https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ!EVh0GZZS
30k/40k Rules and more (torrents): https://kat.cr/usearch/%22Forge%20World%22%20heresy%20user:epistolary/
30k Black Library: https://mega.nz/#F!0RlxDZQC!qAu9BaubWa3KeihJRmOcsg
Strawpoll links: http://www.strawpoll.me/10558764

>> No.49039804
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Music time! I found the theme perfect for when a Warlord or Imperator Titan starts killing.

>> No.49039937
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It says Legion Terminators (squads) and Termie ICs can buy stormshields for a cost when wearing standard termie armour or cheaper when wearing Cataphractii.
So...can Command Squads use them? As in, are they defined as "Legion Terminators" too?

>> No.49040016

RAW, no. RAI, quite possibly.

>> No.49040122

That's beautiful anon

>> No.49040221

30k: Gentleman's agreement, The Game.

>> No.49040404
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>> No.49040504

Technically 40k's supposed to work like this too...in theory.

>> No.49040509
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Picture it, Anon.
>be Imperial Army trooper
>wage on war on an alien world that wronged you before
>Vengance doesn't come in the form of marines
>it comes in the form of the God Engines of Mars
>Warlords and Imperators smash away the alien monsters

>> No.49040680

You're most likely to be playing 30k at someone's house instead of a store so they're probably your friend instead of a rando. Plus, 30k is generally more balanced. Thus it's less of an issue.

>> No.49040800

I was thinking more along the lines of:

or maybe:

>> No.49040919
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Eh, the Dark Ages theme fits better than the other one. Shockwave's Revenge should be the theme for when you made the fight personal to the Titan. Lord only knows what it takes to anger the Titan community.

>> No.49040987


>Remove everything but space marines

Game is bound to be balanced if you only have one team to pick from. Don't get me wrong, I love 30k, but the whole balance part is pretty self explanatory.

>> No.49041653
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One to decimate the enemy, one to decimate your own

>> No.49041664

How come people forget Mechanicum/SA/Knights/IM+C all exist in 30k?

>> No.49041704

Because marines played too big of a part in the Age of Darkness I suppose.

>> No.49041718

>reading After De'shea

Oh god I'm actually tearing up a bit right now

>> No.49041779

Read betrayer, you can be friends with both angron and Magnus and only get punched in the face once

>> No.49041806

Because people don't buy the FW campaign books anymore. They only buy the red books and so never learn about all the other stuff going on during the Heresy.

>> No.49041829

They're a pretty small slice of the playerbase from my experience, but I think saying the non-Marine factions have been well balanced is a lie. For a long time Mechanicum was quite overpowered but they've been nerfed into a good place now. Knight lists have the same balance problems as in 40k, where large parts of non-tailored lists become useless. SA and IM+C lists that spam infantry are still actually quite powerful against all-comers Marine lists.

>> No.49041866

Did the Iron Warriors have a name before they were the Iron Warriors? The World Eaters were the War Hounds before meeting their primarch. The Word Bearers were the Imperial Heralds and the Death Guard were the Dusk Raiders, for example.

>> No.49041914

They were unofficially called the 'Corpse Grinders' by other legions.

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>> No.49041947

They did not. They were just the IVth Legion.

That said, Imperial Army units that served alongside them called them Corpse Grinders behind their backs, but use of this name was grounds for punishment, even before Perturabo took over.

>> No.49041951

But tartaros wasn't a thing till the FAQ, so I would wait for an actual official FAQ to clear the tartaros and storm shield problem.

>> No.49042002

Cataphracti looks superior anyway. Quit being a pussy, start wearing cataphracti now.

>> No.49042019
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Quick! Take a model from any of GW/FW's mini ranges and stat it out using any of the 30k army lists!

For example:

Wight King w/Baleful Tomb Blade, 175 Points.
Force Commander Statline
Master-Crafted Tainted Weapon
Hand Flamer
Melta Bombs
Digital Lasers
Cyber Familiar
Power Armor
Iron Halo
Cult Horde
Tainted Flesh

His wargear is represented by the Warp's Taint/Daemonic Witch Powers, as well as being a master swordsman.

An army list involving him would undoubtedly use GW's Chaos Warriors range and their statlines would be Levy Squads that replace their auxilia rifles and pistols for extra melee weapons, seeing as they'll have BS1 in this army.

>> No.49042026

Now, do servo arms make taking an independent weapon pointless?

Should my Warsmiths use his servo arm as his Killy melee weapon? Also, what is the profile of a servo arm? It's a thunder hammer -concussive right?

>> No.49042033


I can never remember if Corpse Grinders was before or after Perturabo.

>> No.49042062

It was both, the early adage was more impactful because after Perturabo took to reforming his Legion the term became insufficient for the paradigm of mass theatre warfare they came to represent.

>> No.49042164

No, No and try reading the rules.

>> No.49042202


>not being friends with attached Imperial Army units

>> No.49042215

Muh manliness

>> No.49042320

Just soup up MKIII even more.

>> No.49042464
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The Caestus is fucking huge. Not sure how you bastards manage to build it with the standard flyer base.

>> No.49042603
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Was three rods really necessary?

>> No.49042678

Necessary? Probably not. But if there were three towers instead of two, 9/11 wouldn't have been successful is all I'm saying.

>> No.49042716

>Quit being a pussy, start wearing cataphracti now
This. Feels like a Terminator corps recruitment ad or something.
>But tartaros wasn't a thing till the FAQ
We have the issue of this sentence surviving the Adeptus Astartes re-print combined with "Is this yet another FW editorial fuckup?"
Short answer: Don't know, it's funny, ask your opponent.

>> No.49042966
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It was after Perty taught them to treat lives as ammunition.
Perturabo wasn't the best teacher, and I tend to obviate things as well, but I feel he should have made it clear that one should never be afraid of spending lives, yet also be aware wasting them needlessly is a crime worse than dereliction of duty.
More akin to "no marine may die without first killing at least 100 non-compliants" rather than making an assault ramp out of their own corpses or something.
It would have been nice if Perturabo had been schooled by one of his fellow Primarchs, rather than been left to his own devices after hanging with "I can't believe he's such a bad parent"® Emperor.

Coming back to the whole Corpsegrinders nickname, I find it weird they put it in the Prior Cognomens box even though it's explained as being caused by Perturabo's new direction, but maybe they needed to mention it somewhere.

If anything, the pre-Primarch IVth was seen as stubborn normies (p.106).

>> No.49043156

Please, start painting them yellow. I mean, your army is at least tabletop acceptable, but your IFs look like IWs and it's horrible.

>> No.49043179

I told you, go buy the Iron Warriors transfers already, Knight Anon.

>> No.49043190

"Operating in the role of heavy infantry, the Astartes of the XIVth Legion were experts at survival and endurance, and quickly gained a reputation among the other newly-forged Legions as relentless and disciplined fighters. In defence they were stubborn and indefatigable, able to stand unwaveringly against the heaviest fire and hold their position against all comers to the last living body and bolter round if needed. In attack they systematically destroyed a given target, crashing upon an enemy in wave after wave of armoured bodies, excelling in close range fire-fights and bloody attrition."

>> No.49043254

It isn't strictly 30k related, familia, the Lord Inquisitor: Prologue is out.

>> No.49043258

>self deceit
Ultramarines, alphas and dark angels?
>lack of disciplines
World eaters
>false mysticism
WB and TS

Is there any one Perturabo actually liked? Was he always an asshole or was he turned into one?

>> No.49043286

No he is knight anon, his fists do not have time to paint their armour, they are not fulgrims faggots, as that time is better spent making more bolter rounds and firing them at the enemy
Also they had that scheme at one point in the great crusade

>> No.49043316

Pertuabo bonded with the war hounds commander, but angron kinda killed him

>> No.49043331

He and Magnus were best friends. He liked Horus until he found out that he was the only one he made swear an oath.

>> No.49043333

He was friends with Magnus.
> Was he always an asshole or was he turned into one?
Perturabo was paranoid because of his Eye of Terror sense, and his upbringing surely didn't make him likable. He was so paranoid that he kept digging himself into a hole where he became the Iron Tyrant we know and love. He and his children fell victim to stereotypes and made it become reality.

>> No.49043345
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This matters not. The GC IF scheme has one yellow shoulder and arm. This is an IW scheme.

>> No.49043362

I know who he is and the story behind the (lack of) colour, he's just a pussy that's afraid to improve painting skills. As I said, he has them painted, which is more than I could say, but the least he could do is paint them black with yellow.
Some of them did before Rogal Dorn was found.
And bare ceramite is gray, not silver, and everytime he posts a pic >I love your IW comments are incoming.

>> No.49043388

>>Self deceit
Not Ultras nor DA either. In fact, the Lion says the key of victory is to have the enemy's valuable assets within range of your big guns. Perturabo would completely agree with that, as would Ferrus.
>>Lack of Disciplines
>World Eaters
You mean their Sworn Brothers? :^)
Maybe it'd be the SW and WS
>Is there any one Perturabo actually liked?
Not even himself, I'd say.
"Whoops! I guess we can only become better friends after your reverse-decimation of your guys! Magnus is my friend too but he's a Distrusted Nerd, right? :^) "

>> No.49043399

What's odd is that there's conflicts between the bare color of ceramite.

The IW have their armor unpainted, save for the chevrons, yet it is metal. The Death Guard have their armor unpainted, yet it is grey/off white. The Grey Knights/Knights Errant have their armor unpainted, yet it is also metal.

>> No.49043438

>You mean their Sworn Brothers? :^)
>"Whoops! I guess we can only become better friends after your reverse-decimation of your guys! Magnus is my friend too but he's a Distrusted Nerd, right? :^) "

>> No.49043472
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>they are not fulgrims faggots, as that time is better spent making more bolter rounds and firing them at the enemy
I'm certain that's what IWs would say.
I like his paint scheme, even if it's not the best it could be :^)
Besides, Iron Fists were also the first homebrew chapter colours I made in Retribution and Space Marine.

>> No.49043522
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Did someone say Iron Fists?

>> No.49043547


>tfw reprimanded for being too paranoid about running out of ammunition during zone mortalis actions

>> No.49043552
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I wanted to ask this in the previous thread, but I assumed it was only my autism.
Are the Death Guard "unpainted ceramite" or outright "dirty white"?
I hear "Ceramite" and think of actual bathtub white ceramic and white walls (plaster), but this guy is....mithril silver coloured?
It looks like veeeery shiny polished BARE metal, UNLIKE the DGs from HH1, but akin to that HH4's DG Despoiler.

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>What's odd is that there's conflicts between the bare color of ceramite.
There's no conflict but the one on the paintjobs. It's always been gray. Pic related.

>> No.49043589

Death Guard are stated to be bare ceramite as they leave their armor unpainted by order of Mortarion, save for their heraldry.

>> No.49043618

>he's just a pussy that's afraid to improve painting skills
fair enough
>he has them painted, which is more than I could say
only anons with painted armies can call me a pussy. but yeah the IW comments suck. I'll see what I can do to fist them up because honestly I hate artillery and the IW legion rules so I'd rather stay a Fist

>> No.49043619

No iron warriors would say
>why would I spend time painting my armour when I could be testing how much ammunition the enemy machine guns have left

>> No.49043682

Silly anon, the ones testing how many ammo the enemy has are those puny mortals! That's what mortals are for :^)

>> No.49043698

Why didn't you do them black & gold, out of interest? I feel it would have looked more IF than the gunmetal colour, but gold shoulders etc. been easier than the yellow.

>> No.49043748

I'm not trying to offend you, but if I remember it right, you gave up after trying one recipe, and I've never posted something IW-related. Give it another shot, paint one at a time, yellow is definitely a hard colour, but once you get it I'm sure your army'll be to your pride, as the Fists should.

>> No.49043837
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first army I painted was grey knights, so I felt more comfortable working with silver. I was torn between scrapping the whole imperial fists thing and going iron hands since silver + washes + highlights sounded more my ability as a beginner, but I found pic related and a bolter and chainsword guy who did his fists as gold instead of yellow, so I combined the two ideas. I honestly like the result which is why I keep posting pictures of my army and why I haven't tried any other scheme since then. plus the way I fluffed their background opens up knights and mechanicum allies on mars perfectly.

>> No.49043853
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>munitions reserves estimated to exceed that of several other Legions combined.
Stay bitter and paranoid, IW

>> No.49043906

There's nothing wrong with your color scheme, KA. The only problem with it is that they are, without having to be expalined, Iron Warriors. It's too similar to >>49043345. What you should have done was make the entire right arm gold instead of the shoulders.

>> No.49043942

You do know that marines have serfs to paint their armour though, right? Your background has some merit, but they'd eventually get rotated out of action for 6-12 hours every now and then, and then the serfs couldn't help it. Be that serf, anon. Serve the Legion, the Primarch and the Emperor.

>> No.49043946

>munitions reserves estimated to exceed that of several other Legions combined.
Truly, the American way.

>> No.49043959


I always thought that we survived decimation because our Grand Battalion was simply too far away to make muster.

>> No.49044006

To be honest, I'm just now starting to read the campaign books and I fully intend on skipping the militia/auxillia stuff. Just don't really care about them.

>> No.49044008

Kek. Iron Warriors truly are Americans, aren't they?

>Terrans were recruited from what used to be America
>Have a whole lot of ammo. Ridiculous stockpiles of it.
>Be paranoid regarding everything. Especially your ammo.
>If you can't kill it, call in an airstrike and/or bombard it with an artillery barrage.
>If that doesn't work, keep doing it until it does.
>Everyone else sucks. Especially our friends. They suck extra.
>Biggest legion too! If you don't count the attrition rate, of course.

I thought it was hilarious how the only guy who got decimated in that thread was an Alpha Legion spy.

>> No.49044080


Do Iron Warriors have Seeker Squads?

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>Extra Paranoid
>Huge ammo stockpiles
>Dig trenches
>Do what you can with what you have -- Preppers.
>Prepared to survive without resupplies.
Are you saying the Iron Warriors...are the /k/-marines?
Truly, a magical legion.

>> No.49044106

Yeah but, this is the battle or shortly post battle Mars, the traitors are at the gates, the serfs sans pilots have probably been inducted into the army and have been tasked with scavenging metal to make claymores with. Or just got rid of because they didn't have the food to keep them ala attack on Titan

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>Extra Paranoid
>Huge ammo stockpiles
>Dig trenches
>Do what you can with what you have -- Preppers.
>Prepared to survive without resupplies.
Are you saying the Iron Warriors...are the /k/-marines?
Truly, a magical legion.

>> No.49044136

Wait. The IV legion is both /k/ AND /tg/!?

It was at this moment that I knew they were my one and only legion.

Hand me a Power Shovel.

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>> No.49044212

>Power Shovel
Where do they discuss it?

Mars happened rather early in the Heresy, they had it contained until Horus arrived to relieve it.
Whatever, they are your dudes in the end, but like the other anon suggested, you may want to paint the whole arm gold/yellow instead of the dull bronze on the shoulder.

>> No.49044222

Can someone photoshop shovel knight into IW colours

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Join us brother in our bare metal
Together we shall charge and rip down their ugly walls

>> No.49044383

>Did [legion] have [non-legion specific unit]?
Yes, the answer is always yes. Death Guard even had some speeders.

>> No.49044837

So what does the firewing do again?

>> No.49044859

They're Salamanders with monk hoods.

>> No.49044913

/tg/ likes to say that they use flame weapons but in reality there's no fluff on them so anything you hear is people guessing or making stuff up.

>> No.49045001


Death Guard are bright white and green that is dirty and corroded due to heavy and prolonged exposure to radiation and toxicity and long campaigns on field

>> No.49045019


But ceramite is light grey, not white or bone white


Death Guard is eroded white and green

>> No.49045024

I won't scatter your cortex to the heartless void. I will always be with you, ride the Ironfire with me. I won't see you end as ashes. You're all iron...We are Beep Boops.

>> No.49045035


How many imperial credits would that shoulderpad cost?

Is that a thing Rogue Trades trade?

>> No.49045053


Every legion has every non-unique unit, save for Alpha Legion wich can also have other legion's unique units

>> No.49045064


Alpha Legion Deathshroud and Justaerin

>> No.49045075
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The prologue is up and its good:


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I think of it as whatever additives they use in their ceramite make it more of a warm white than a cold grey. When I went to that pic for reference I thought it was a bit too shiny as well and so am going with the same scheme the line troopers use.

>> No.49045111

There is not a standard currency within the Imperium. There are regional, planetary, cluster, sub-sector, and if you're really lucky, sector-wide currencies. These are everything from letters of credit, to valuable minerals, to more time added on to your personal "debt clock." Money changing is alive and well in the Imperium.

>> No.49045121

It is good for the number of people who worked on it and budget they had to do it.

>> No.49045174

Yes. It's made pretty clear that Legions are stocked with, and can (and will) field, any generic unit or item of wargear. Some just prefer not to if they don't desperately have to. For example, Raven Guard have their own super heavy tanks and artillery if they really really need to use it, but it would only be because there's no alternative with their immediate tactica (and nobody available can fill that niche which they need).

Likewise, the Iron Warriors definitely had Seeker Squads trained and ready, most likely pulling such as double duty apart from other roles (Tactical, Havoc etc). Death Guard had Land Speeders and fast-flying aircraft, White Scars had some Dreads, the one exception I really doubt existed were Destroyers in the Salamanders.

>> No.49045180


Either that or just the barest of primer coat on the plates as they roll off the line.

>> No.49045225

I though White Scars were morally opposed to being encased in a dread rather than just not using them often because they don't go fast.

>> No.49045229
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>Ceramite is light grey
>But Death Guard are white
So, their armour has the same colour as plaster? The DG in the right looks more metalic, akin to polished aluminium after a while.

>> No.49045270


yes, ceramite is light-grey in color, like Word Bearers grey.

Death guard is dirty white

>> No.49045296

Chogorians are, Terrans are less strict about it.

>> No.49045315


The one on the right is from Book 4, isn't it? There's a definite difference in colour there. Fuck it, I'mma keep doing them the dirty off-white they are in Book 1.

>> No.49045411


FW fucks with us in the color department purposefully.

They dont want to risk it themselves, thus they make the colors unclear.

Same with Alpha Legion and Iron Hands

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Mechanicum Thagmata 1000pts, what do I go with?

>> No.49045949

But don't GK wear unpainted power armour and they're silver?

>> No.49045956

Archaeotech hammer
Inflicts d666 hammer of wrath attacks, each wound causes another ala blood claws

>> No.49046024

Mhara Gal?

>> No.49046050

Alpha Legion can take them.

And arguably use them better than the Word Bearers themselves, seeing as Mhara Gal harm Daemons and Psykers, which is odd, since Word Bearers are the only army that can take either en-masse.

>> No.49046069

I know the rules say they can take them but that shouldn't really be possible, right? Same for Gal Vorbak

>> No.49046098

Turns out unpainted ceramite looks both as plaster, aluminium, shiny steel and silver, all at the same time, except no, but yes.

>> No.49046111

Should it really not be possible? How do you know you're not an Alpha Legion spy? How do we know I'M not an Alpha Legion spy?

>> No.49046131

Well I'm sure the daemons would have a thing or two to say to Lorgar about his nephews killing his sons and impersonating them

>> No.49046296

Do you really think that? Or are you just playing mind-games with me to distract me from your cover as an Alpha Legionnaire?

>> No.49046306

The way I see is that they're not AL infiltrators, but sleeper agents. AL brainwashing trumps daemons inside you it seems.

>> No.49046308


>Implying Tzeench is not protecting the Alpha Legion

>Implying he would allow filthy undivided marineshits to know

>> No.49046348

I actually think seekers and so on are pretty fluffy for iron warriors. Having snipers to pick off officers or other special targets is very much a thing in trench warfare. And we've all heard of vasily zaytsev, right?

>> No.49046368


Seekers ride the Ironfire.

>> No.49046409

Seekers aren't Snipers, anon. They're the Slow and Steady guys who have been given a purpose, and extra munitions. They will fulfill their purpose and expend their ammo to do so. If they are told to go across the trenches and slay the Warlord, they will do just that.

>> No.49046597

When two minds share a body, I bet they'd gain resistance against brainwashing, mind control, Infohazards, memetic agents and the like.
Maybe the AL uses some obscure xenotech to replicate the effects. Not saying necrons...but necrons.
Aren't seekers bolter assassins/comandos?

>> No.49046603

Magos Prime Ordinator; djinn-skein, 4 cyber-occularis 215

20 tech-tralls, induction chargers 80
20 tech-tralls, induction chargers 80
18 Tech-tralls 59
3 Castellax 315
3 Castellax 315

Thanatar; enhanced targeting array 265
Thanatar; enhanced targeting array 265
6 Myrmidon Destructors; 6 Volkite Culverins 405


What say you /tg?

>> No.49046634

Praetorian of Dorn mentions psychic reconstitution so that your memory is only jogged when you hear a trigger, maybe something similar?

>> No.49046758

Waacfag/10 well done

>> No.49046775

This is my first 30k list ever, I only know Taghmata from wintersSEO batreps

>> No.49046803

I'm not sure how to use Thralls, or the value of their Induction chargers, and those myrmidons are nice, but don't you have too much antimeq and too little anti tank?
Also, tell me how you'll use that djin skein.
Lol naked magos

>> No.49046832

what oath?

>> No.49046886

An oath of loyalty to the Warmaster. No other legion nor Primarch was made to swear an oath to Horus. Only Perturabo and his sons. The IV legion did not like this once they had found out no one else had needed to.

>> No.49046907

Oath of loyalty, the one none of the other primarchs swore.

>> No.49046912

When Horus found out about Olympia he summoned Perturabo, Perturabo was shitting himself but still came, Horus sweettalked him and told him how he did nothing wrong, then had him swear an oath to always be his man.

Later Perturabo found out that none of the other traitor primarchs had done such a thing, and he realized that Horus was just a second Emperor

>> No.49046935


Horus did Olympia.

>> No.49046946


>> No.49046948

Perturabo did nothing wrong.

>> No.49046974

Word Bearers indeed did it.

>> No.49047040

It's all human nature's fault

>> No.49047057

He had a hand. The Word Bearers were pushing the IWs's buttons just so Pert would vent his frustration on Olympia and feel guilty about with Horus waiting around the corner.

>> No.49047067



>> No.49047099


"Magnus was a mistake."

- E-Money

>> No.49047101

Nonono! You've got it all wrong. The Word Bearers planted daemons worship on Olympia for Horus so Perturabo would have to put down their rebellion and feel guilt over decimating his own hom planet!

Anon, Magnus and Pert were best friends. If anything, it's Lorgar and Horus' faults.

>> No.49047111

Where is this bit of lore from? Angel Exterminatus?

>> No.49047123

It's Erebus's fault.

>> No.49047130


Also correct.

>> No.49047141

But that is button pushing. I mean Horus giving Pert bad jobs and saying "Dad's words not mine" probably pushed a lot of buttons.

>> No.49047169

Is this actually true?

>> No.49047216

The Magnus and Pert being bros for life? Yes.

The daemon worship? No. But Perturabo did feel guilt over having to put down the rebellion on Olympia, and Horus made him swear an oath of loyalty to him, as Perturabo felt that it would alleviate his guilt, which it didn't. Later on, after he and his legion found out that they were the only ones who swore oaths of loyalty, they got bitter about it, and from then on trusted only themselves.

>> No.49047250

Did The Khan and Pert ever talk philosophy together? Or were they on the opposite ends of the crusade like the Khan always manages to be?

>> No.49047511

Is FW closed tomorrow? I seem to recall it being some kind of Brit holiday

>> No.49047531
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>mfw Duncan hasn't done a tip of the day for two days now.

>> No.49047565

What is the ammunition capacity on a cyclone missile launcher?

>> No.49047598


>> No.49047623

Good at animating everything except faces. Like my painting.

>> No.49047773

It's bank holiday weekend which includes Monday now, so shipping might be delayed that's all

>> No.49047884

The Khan wasn't that talkative; he mostly kept to himself and rarely said anything, his Fulgrim joke and his talk with Mortarion are rare exceptions

>> No.49047895

RIP Solonius.

>> No.49048001


12 rockets in 2E.

>> No.49048029

Magos are worth investing points in, they can get a lot of good toys so don't try to save points on them.

Legio Cybernetica or Reductor are pretty much better than Taghmata if you know where you want to focus your army (robots or artillery).

Your list is pretty boring really, not overly op or weak, just boring. Are there no other units or options that appeal to you? Some of the elite or fast attack robots are really interesting as is Paragon of Metal.

Also a severe lack of anti-tank unless I'm reading things wrong, at 2000 points you could easily see AV15 or massed AV14 which you have no effective way of dealing with.

>> No.49048213


>tfw chewed out by both my captain and the legion's forge tyrant because I tried to replace the cyclone missile launcher on my cataphractii primus with a darkfire cannon

>> No.49048233
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Would you play against this list?

2k Iron Warriors Ironfire

-Praetor, 100
+Archaeotech Pistol, 20
+Paragon Blade, 25
+Digital Lasers, 15
+Melta Bombs, 5
+Iron Halo, 25
Total, 185

-Apothecarion Detachment, 90
+Artificer Armor, 10 (20)
Total, 110

-2xRapier Quad Mortar Support Battery, 60 (120)
+Quad Mortar, 60 (120)
Total, 120 (240)

-Contemptor-Cortus Class Dradnought Talon, 405
+Chainfist, 10 (30)
+x2 Melta Gun, 30 (60)
+Extra Armor, 5 (15)
+Carapace-Mounted Havoc Launcher, 15 (45)
Total, 700

-2xLegion Tactical Squad, 125 (250)
+10 additional tacticals, 100 (200)
+Nuncio-Vox, 10 (20)
+Sergeant Melta Bombs, 5 (10)
+Sergeant Artificer armor, 10 (20)
Total, 250 (500)

Heavy Support
-Deredeo Pattern Dreadnought, 185
+Aiolos Missile Launcher, 35
+Shrapnel Bolts

Complete Total, 1955

Is there anything you'd suggest I change?

>> No.49048362

I'd get shatter shells for the mortars, make the Dreadnought melta guns into grav guns, forget about Artificer Armour on the sarges and lose the shrapnel bolts on the Deredeo unless they are free as you should never be firing a Deredeo at something you can pin anyway. Also as pointed out your army would go further using the hammer of Olympia as you arent utilising enough Barrage to make Iron fire worth it

>> No.49048385

Archeotech pistol on a 2+ character is worse than a plasma pistol. Seriously, ap3 does no favours compared to an ap2 with +1s.
Your cortus-noughts could do with a chainfist/kheres combo, losing one attack for decent shooting is a good tradeoff, you're wasting your bs4 and durability. Also, carapace havocs are not worth the points. Take gravguns instead of meltaguns.
You have two blobs to abuse ironfire's fearless with, and those are your only scoring units. Against anyone with templates/blasts/BRRRRRRRT you're going to suffer-everyones sick of playing against BaC footsloggers and knows how to beat them.
Ironfire does nothing for you. Consider doing Pride or some RoW where you actually use the bonuses.

>> No.49048563

Dorn killed him, accept he's gone.

>> No.49048630

That's a lot of points going into footslogging melee dreadnoughts. Consider investing in drop pods.

If you're using Hammer of Olympia, you won't need to buy extra armor.

That should clear up some points to buy another quad mortar or some heavier units to support your two infantry units.

Have faith, Word Bearer

>> No.49048808

Shrapnel is indeed free. Graviton guns seem pretty good, though I don't know how they stack up compared to Melta? Oh, and why Shatter shells?

Wait, why is the Archeotech pistol bad though? I guess you're right concerning the dreadnoughts, I just went with rule of cool for them to be honest. I'm not using BaC though, I just always liked the idea of mass infantry footslogging, even if it isn't really a good idea.

Yeah, you're right about the dreads, though I'm not fond of drop pods.

Also, how would Hammer of Olympia compare to Ironfire, or any other RoW? One if my problems with Hammer is that it requires a Warsmith or Siege Breaker, and it'd be cheaper to go with a Warsmith, though the Warsmith's Warlord trait is meh. Also I don't really know what to take in my Heavy Suppirt slots.

Thanks for the help anons, I appreciate it!

>> No.49048944

Archeotech pistol is lower strength and higher AP-against termies, most all characters or even an AA sarge you're not doing anything 5/6th of the time, while paying five points more than a better option that has a 1/36 chance to wound you.
If you want to rule of cool your dreads, more power to you, just pointing it out. As you're footslogging them, having decent shooting makes up for the suboptimal nature of footslogging melee. Grav has reliable AT with haywire, and with armoured ceramite being fairly common most of the time meltaguns are basically useless.
You don't have to use a legion-specific RoW, look into the regular ones-a PotL force is always one of the best and is easy for beginners to grasp the strengths of

>> No.49049152

that's metal af

>> No.49049177

Ironfire is nice, but you don't have nearly enough artillery to make it work.

You're playing Iron Warriors. Invest in blast templates and the things that dispense them. Medusa's, quad guns, siege tyrants should be your go to.

>> No.49049186

how can i achieve this metallic grey effect without looking bare metal/cheap metallic paint?

>> No.49049260

I guess that's true, but I'm just not fond of Plasma weapons just for the small chance that it does hurt me. It's something I've learned that if something can go wrong, it will.

That makes sense regarding the grav, I'll probably switch them out. It making Dangerous Terrain won't be a problem, right? I don't want to do anything that would be especially frowned-upon.

I like Ironfire because then I can use the mortars and have them give bonuses to my tacs as well, though I can see your point. Pride of the Legion is good too, and Hammer would be nice if I was using more of my HS slots. The charge bonus seems pretty nice, though I don't know how useful it'd be.

I guess you're right. I was thinking if doing Ironfire since it didn't really have any downsides, and the Fearless bonuses were nice. I just don't want to spam too much blast templates though, don't want to really piss anyone off. I like Medusas though, how should I fit them in the list? I don't really care about Tyrants, in all honesty. That and I'd rather wait for the models they'll never get. Same goes for Havocs, but I actually love them, and could just get some MkIII marines and give them heavy weapons if I really needed them.

>> No.49049270
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can a Caestus ram an enemy flyer? like if an enemy flyer is within 18 inches of my table edge and I'm flying on from reserve, can I declare a ram attack and just...wreck its shit? never seen that done before but can't find any rules saying I can't.

>> No.49049329

Knight Anon, I'll say that your Caestus looks great in that pic, but I must admit that they really do look like Iron Warriors.

Also, regarding your question, I don't know. RAI, most likely, and RAW I can't really find anything wrong with it. Ask FW to be sure though.

>> No.49049368

>using a filter to make a lazy paintjob seem better
are you a thirteen year old who just discovered snapchat and makeup?

>> No.49049445

Maybe he's not the best painter of them all, but is that a crime?
>inb4 yes it is
Uh...well at least he paints his minis.
>At least he has minis
>At least he actually plays the game

>> No.49049447


Under Flyers:
>Zooming Flyers cannot Tank Shock or Ram (pg 92), nor can be Tank Shocked or Rammed.

It's typical GW rules writing, putting an exception to a rule in something before they introduce the rule itself then not mentioning it in that rule's section.

>> No.49049472

The Legion List says the Caestus is an exception to this, and when hovering it's a Fast Skimmer and also a tank so it would need no exception. As such, the exception refers to when it is zooming.

So, it can ram when zooming, just not other flyers.

>> No.49049485
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So would that mean that hovering flyers are able to ram?

>> No.49049486

I'm not saying he's a bad painter at all! And you do bring up some extremely valid points. I'm just saying that they look like Iron Warriors.

Ah, but anon, the Caestus has a special rule that exempts it from not being able to ram, and the question is whether it can ram other flyers since it itself is also a flyer.

>> No.49049497

>are you a thirteen year old who just discovered snapchat and makeup?
I'm thinking this is just bait. I can't imagine someone actually being this triggered by a painted army.

>> No.49049529

no, i'm a professional photographer who regularly deals with retarded children using shitty filters in an attempt to make it look like theres something of substance behind the pretty distortions

>> No.49049654
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>I'm not saying he's a bad painter at all! And you do bring up some extremely valid points. I'm just saying that they look like Iron Warriors.
He does have to come to terms that his Fists do look like Iron Warrior. Hell, anything Unpainted Power Armour will sort of look like Iron Warriors, who in turn look like the early grey legions, a phase the other legions grew out of.
Unless they're Death Guard, whose Bare Ceramite turns out is "not like your regular ceramite".
mfw I downloaded Prisma after seeing Knight Anon's pic.

>> No.49049672

Does anything of import happen in Fallen Angels other than Luther being a birch and the librarian dude becoming Cypher? Can I just skip that shit and read about our guy Magnus?

>> No.49049692
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>mfw I downloaded Prisma after seeing Knight Anon's pic.

I downloaded Prisma after I saw this.

>> No.49049701


>our guy

>> No.49049721

Literally did nothing wrong

>> No.49049729

>not that one .webm
Anon, pls.

>> No.49049737

just watching a few clips from that anime made me go register myself on neighborhood watchdog

>> No.49049756
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You know what your shit needs? Black details and white crosses/fists.

>> No.49049777
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Shoot, it's made worse by the fact that he made both shoulders golden. If he followed the pic he used as a reference it'd probably turn out better, seeing as it was the entire right arm that was yellow instead of just the shoulders.

>> No.49049781


Read the second half of that sentence. A Zooming Flyer cannot be rammed, regardless of the Caestus' exception.

>So would that mean that hovering flyers are able to ram?

If they have the Tank type, yes.

>> No.49049824
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wait who said I did that? I did both shoulders on the terminators like the veteran ones, but on power armor I did the right arm, shoulder, and some of the faceplate

>> No.49049831
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>So it can even when zooming, just NOT other flyers.
What I'm saying is the Caestus should be able to ram ground stuff on its zooming arrival, not aircraft.
Hey, Nurgle you speak the truth. The entire arm should be yellow.
Or golden, at least.

>> No.49049869

Alright then
>MkIV using ye olde olde MkII paint job from before Dorn was found.
Eh, they're your dudes.

>> No.49049878

Huh, so you did. Must've been misremembering. Still, yellow would have been far more recognizable than gold/bronze, as an all metallics army will be mistaked for an alternate IW scheme.

>> No.49049993

Knight Anon, let me say that you're a pretty cool guy.

However your IW look too much like IF.

>> No.49049998


They haven't, and from what I have understood from my few moments of playing 30k, this is the team thats OP. See... you just need to ad 1 team, and its already a problem for GW. No, better just stick with Marines! They are cool, only just wished they where true scale.

>> No.49050041 [SPOILER] 
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Poor girls, judging for how their breath is visible it must be very cold, so they're hugging to get warmth.

>> No.49050109
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B-but the transfers...the transfers will make all the Bitter men on the internet for away r-right?

>> No.49050189

Now Knight Anon, don't be sad. I love the IF bolter bonus and have a lust for bolters WHOOOO!? myself. However Iron Warriors were the legion for me. Sure, ignoring morale from shooting attacks isn't that bad. And sure, getting wrecker on all your bombs are belong to us! is only situationally useful. And sure we don't know when FW will ever give us things. But you have to hold on! Don't give up, alright Knight Anon? You can do it. You can make the IV legion proud by giving your men the Iron Skulls they deserve!

Plus, Beep-Boops!

>> No.49050221


SUCH a lust for fortification... WHO?

>> No.49050288
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S-sure. It's n-not like you could ride the Ironfire with us or anything, baka.
You need something to keep you in check when you're knee deep in memes.

>> No.49050346

>Dislike Pert
>Dislike hazard stripes
>No morale tests for shooting but most units are vehicles
>Dislike using artillery and don't plan on ever owning rapiers
>Beep-boops the only leadbelcher silver lining
I've dug my own grave with this Power Shovel.

>> No.49050405


We should follow Punished Perturabo.

>> No.49050483
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I'll be honest, Beep-Boops just might be the deciding factor in my choice of traitor legion.
It's either them or SoH, and while I think seafoam green marines look amazing the IW have the more aesthetically-pleasing minis by far. Also in my personal opinion Pert looks better than Horus

Of course, I used to be an alpha legion spy, so I don't even know if I can trust myself anymore.

>> No.49050488
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Lucky for Iron Warriors, we're very good at digging.

>> No.49050492

So, how should we buff the HBolter on Dreadnoughts?

>> No.49050506

>Bronze not yellow
>Pre Dorn scheme AND late heresy fluff used to justify paint scheme
>Not even any icons

Part of the reason I'm bitter is I'm actually putting an awful lot of effort in to do yellow fists.

>> No.49050549

Goood, gooood! Let the Bitter flow through you.

Give this man rules! Or at least a mention in the books.

Make them Quad HBolters? So a basic Contemptor Mortis would have two Quad HBolters?

>> No.49050573


FW should give this man a mini.

>> No.49050642

please show your progress so far. I like how my stuff turned out but I get the bitterness. the decals will be in place soon, just nervous about starting because I've never worked with them before.

>> No.49050750

I ate some bad pancakes and now my stomach feels sick.

Tell me tales of the trenches, /hhg/. I have a lust for Lascannons, Heavy Bolters, and Power Shovels.

>> No.49050805

>this Forge World® Officially Approved™ colour scheme is silver with a yellow shoulderpad, arm and other details
>therefore I will paint the shoulderpad in bronze

Come on, man, it's not close to yellow. It's not even a bright and shining gold, that would have been closer to yellow and perhaps looked different from IW.

>> No.49050868
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I'm sure the decals will help.

>> No.49050882
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Also, micro set and micro sol make transfer look painted on if done well.

I have 2500 points to paint for an event the coming Saturday so I'm gonna have to gt a move on with these guys.

>> No.49051306

That might be rod overkill M8.

>> No.49051317


I hope they bring back the 77th for something in future FW books. I wonder if they would make them survive to get a second founding chapter

>> No.49051367


The 77th fought the good fight. It also seems like Kyr Vhalen and the remaining elements of the Therikon Suppression Task Force became friends with the Paramar Taghmata.

>> No.49051457


>> No.49051545
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>Flays internally

>> No.49052277
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Dantioch makes me love the IW contemptor.

>> No.49052633
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i loved IW autistic paranoia in Angel Exterminatus

i love IW austistic paranoia in Siege of Castellax

am I in for a real treat in Storm of Iron?

how about the the Ventris books? i plan on reading those as well because i heard there are IWs in them

>> No.49052676

That image makes for a good wallpaper. Anyome have any more IW themed wallpaper sized images? Phone sized/vertical is also accepted.

>> No.49052734
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im trying to find you the stock version of this one.

>> No.49052759
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>> No.49052783


ty anon, i was failing at finding my own copy i thought i had

>> No.49052818
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>> No.49052891


>angel exterminatus

>the scene where perturabo is in his workshop finishing building his mini titan model in the middle of a maze that only he knows how to navigate

he's such a wonderfully autistic man

>> No.49052906

>tfw everyone's either at work or asleep, and I'm just laying here, sick to my stomach.

It's so lonely at night.

Also the plastic TSon is confirmed for 30k by Atia, unfortunately.

>> No.49052942

why unfortunately

>> No.49052943


You mean fortunately. This is the 30k general, remember.

>> No.49052993

You fools! This means that the new Calth-esque box will contain not-generics! This is an atrocity!

>> No.49053018

Depends on how bad it is. If it's nothing new shoulderpads or a file won't take cover then it might still be ok

>> No.49053025


I expect it to be just like Death Masque. One named special character on each side, and the rest generic models.

>> No.49053066

True enough, though that would mean that the characters are useless to those who aren't SW or TS. Especially since something as iconic as a TS Sorcerer standing atop a dead SW can't be converted very easily.

>> No.49053102

Maybe the TS rules involve the rumoured sergeants being sorcerors, hence a need for large quantities of sorcerors?

>> No.49053128

If that was true, then the model would look slightly more generic, without the dead SW.

>> No.49053132

Eh, it's not like people were buying Calth for the captain and chaplain though.

>> No.49053152

Also true, but they were generic though, and you could easily convert them. Plus they were good for WSIWYG autists.

>> No.49053336

Your primarch requires a tactical marine tax or else.

Quickly, post one of your tactical Marines!

>> No.49053492
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This is all I have.

>> No.49053545
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>> No.49053590

You followed Duncan's directions, didn't tou?

>> No.49053627
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Not for those ones specifically, but I did for my Dreadnought.

Duncan is love, Duncan is life.

>> No.49053769

True Way to wear a Storm Shield coming through.

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>> No.49053842
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My Primarch!

>> No.49053857


Oh hi knight Anon

>> No.49053860

Rolled 8 (1d10)

Pls no decimate.

>> No.49053920
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Caw caw!

>> No.49053942
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do you love me brother

>> No.49053978
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I find his method bad. Not the technique, I can't say anything against that, it's simply that covering the whole mini in basecoat just makes matters worse. Going section by section improves brush control and technique IMO, following the directions will never improve someone's skill.

>> No.49054067

Would it be worth running Alpha Legion w/ the Move Through Cover rule and a bunch of Assault Squads? Not having to worry about Difficult Terrain tests sounds really attractive.

>> No.49054150

>wears yellow
>cant even put pic with original post
>primarch with lost hands

truly worst legion

>inb4 muh largest fleet, muh alpha legion "confirmed" "kill"

>> No.49054236

If you do that in ZM, AL gets better at it than DG.

>> No.49054319
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>thread is full of Knight Anon's not-IW
>GDGG is nowhere to be seen

>> No.49054818
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Warmaster gets one better

>> No.49054918
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Pew Pew NL are to edge to run bolters, vulkite terror tacs all the way.

>> No.49054977

I love the lightning, but i think the blue is a bit too bright to be in midnight clad

>> No.49054993
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its the lights I have on my desk they are like 1000% super bright for painting. They are actually much darker.

>> No.49055013

That looks better, the light had almost made them closer to alpha legion than night lords. Whats your method for doing lightning? I'm just doing grey then white in the thicker sections, with a bit of wash on the edges of the lightning to blend it back onto the armour, but yours is way more crisp

>> No.49055229

4 color step lines method. Thick base line, then a highlight to it, then another even thinner highlight and then super white highlight where the lines diverge and the tips.

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For Corax!

>> No.49055488

Nice choice of background, brother.

How'd you do your black?

>> No.49055562

Those look great m8, can you post your list?

>> No.49055688
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for the lying lion!

>> No.49055700
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choppy tacs are best tacs

>> No.49055723



Are you not a true son of Angron?

>> No.49055755

Nice World Eaters.

>> No.49055846

Guys we found another AL spy

>> No.49055874

How did you get the metal finish that way? It looks really cool.

It...does look like pert's flagship sketch

>> No.49055888


>> No.49055922

its a photo filter

>> No.49055924

It's a photo filter

>> No.49055943

The ultramarine series does have iron warriors but pertuabo isn't in it or just mentioned as Hounsou (the BBG) sire. However the Daemoncubula is something only an autist could think up

the ventris series is something I'd really reccomened as its like the epics of old where the mortal enemies have long monologues with each other before sparing off, and you also get a look at what the day to day life is like in non war zones

>> No.49055964

They'll probably survive, help at terra and then mysteriously disappear along with dantioch's remaining men just as the silver skulls chapter is founded

>> No.49056027
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Hello, I am heresy and this is my brother Dogmatic Schism.

>> No.49056033

Mole man in Latin
>force org slot
>squad composition
>stat line
Basic terminator sergeant
Thunder hammer, combi bolter
>special rules
Stubborn, mole, feel no pain 4+, left for dead
>left for dead
This unit can never score
Mole man must start the game in reserves, he is deployed using the normal deepstrikers rules, however if he would experience a deep strike mishap instead place a small blast template over where he would deploy. This area is now impassable terrain and any models under the template take a s10 ap1 hit. If he still cannot be placed roll on the deep strike mishap table

>> No.49056120

>>stat line
>Basic terminator sergeant
Give the man 2w, and replace his Thunder Hammer with a Power Shovel. Maybe +1s rending concussive ap4?

>> No.49056169

He had a thunder hammer in the story.
Maybe give him that Reroll the casualty table like Kharn, and some good FnP as well.
Can't he have eternal warrior?

Adger Neavus be his name.

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...Even though he's already named Titus Avvon

>> No.49056210 [DELETED] 

>IWs need 2W, 4+FNP, WE and Mark by dark fates before they dig through rubble with out a legs several organs and a load of blood.
This should be a matter of course for regular Iron Warriors, like eating potatoes, or breathing smoke.

>> No.49056241

>IWs need 2W, 4+FNP, EW and Mark by dark fates before they dig through rubble without a leg, several organs and a load of blood.
This should be a matter of course for regular Iron Warriors, like eating potatoes, or breathing smoke.

>> No.49056246

Dogmatic Schism looks to be losing an arm as we speak

>> No.49056257

Give him some credit, he just pulled a John McClane, proably said Yippikaye Motherfucker as he killed that Alpha while blowing up the building.
Also, Morturg got shot in the ribs and he's got both a novel and rules now.

>> No.49056367

I'm at work now, but the 3k list I'm aiming for is something like this:

Preator termie w/ paragon blade
5 termies w/ lightning claws
In a blackwing transport

Master of signal

Contemptor with 2 close combat weapons

5 mor deythan with snipers

3 tactical squads of 10 guys with power sword artificer armour, nuncio vox and combat blades.

2 support squads of 10 with plasma or melta in drop pods.

Deathstorm drop pod

5 dark furies

And a couple of land speeders with multi melta and grav gun

The list is about halfway painted right now and I'm still building it, but it's pretty much based on the two raven guard fw bundles and lots of BaC stuff.

I also have Corax who I intend to switch in for something once I have him painted up.

>> No.49056381

Fair enough, but all four toughness boosting rules?

>> No.49056471

Proposals only, and FnP/EW combos very well with 2W, and Marked by Fates isn't a toughness boosting rule.
The lack (and access to) EW is a game changer, what makes Sigismund and Scoria the powerhouses they are. Even a dumb sgt can kill Abaddon.

>> No.49056718

Mind sharing the novel if you have it?

>> No.49056819

Mark by dark fates is a rule for marines who will live to see 40k, and if neither Abaddon or Sevatar have it then why should he?

>> No.49056828

And as for EW if neither Abaddon or Sevatar have it, why should he?

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These tracks always remind me of the 30/40k universe.

>> No.49056918

Some nice Iron Hands you got there

>> No.49056943

Fair enough. In ye olde rules, bionic limbs gave FnP, let him have that.
I don't have Blackshield.

>> No.49056962

>Mark by dark fates is a rule for marines who will live to see 40k, and if neither Abaddon or Sevatar have it then why should he?
Abaddon does have it, and Sevatar dies in the heresy. And Abaddon SHOULD have EW, otherwise even a regular Praetor (or a power fist sgt) can fuck him up.

>> No.49057040

Yeah, the FNP is fine.
I forgot to write >>49056828 in that post.

>> No.49057088

We're just asking for a loyalist equivalent, call it 'blessed of the emperor' as his loyalty to the emperor imbued him with the strengths to go on

>> No.49057224

Loyalist Endryd Haar does have Marked by Dark Fates, and we don't have him confirmed to be alive in 40k...UNLESS.

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For One Punch Man el'Jonson!

>> No.49057349


> Caliban green elements in Heresy-era DA livery

I actually really like this. The checkerboard patterns and esoteric symbols are nice and all, but it's the green that really sets them apart from Iron Hands and (especially) Raven Guard, *and* ties them with their future incarnation.

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Fresh SoH tacs

>> No.49057734

Calibanite Dark Angels did wear heraldic colours and beasts of Old Caliban in the years leading up to the Heresy.

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What is he saying
>inb4 it is well done
Also does anyone know if they made posters for the other heresy books and gave them away in white dwarf

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Wake me up

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Can't wake up

>> No.49057838

I have two sets of mkIII iron hands tacticals fresh from the mail, any suggestions on how to convert them to be Iron Warriors?

>> No.49057858

Remove iron hand

>> No.49057916

I'm going to break up the kits and mesh the mkIII with MKII to amp up the technological component of Iron Warriors.

I'm on my mobile at the moment, anyone care to share the weapon profile of a Servo Arm with me?

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Is this what Emps feels in 40k 24/7?

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Despite not being able to love anymore He still sheds tears for every human that dies in his name.

>> No.49058011

Servo-arm grants a single attack with the followong profile:
Range: - ,S:x2 , AP:2 , Unwieldy

>> No.49058078

What the fuck happend to the scythes?

>> No.49058086

Tbfw iron warriors have some of the best praetors combat wise

>> No.49058135

He thought the farming implement look was pretty mediocre, so he made them actual warscythes instead

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>> No.49058358

Praetor with cataphracti terminator armor and warsmith makes a pretty mean man for the points.

>> No.49058423

I prefer him as just
Servo arm
Digi lasers
Digi lasers
6 attacks, 7 on the charge and unless they're on the bike the servo arm ID's them

>> No.49058464

Why are you running a praetor in cataphracti why not GOLG!!! with his mighty ld 9 perfect when facing snipers

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Old shitty pic, but the Iron Tenth needs some rep!

>> No.49058543

Cataphracti is a cheap 4++ invul and power axe. It's not like you want to charge, sit this bitch back with your artillery in a group of Iron Circle and laugh as you absorb ranged casualties like nothing and rain bitter iron upon your foes.

>> No.49058609

Because Golgs name is stupid and he is a traitor. Fuck traitors. My Perturabo is loyalist at least until the shit hits the fan. For Imperium of man.

Until death in bitter Iron we ride, akin to iron fire with which we do die, weapons of destruction borne by our ire, for deaths our sweet mistress, our abucusses tally men yearn for her touch, the cold bitter mourning of the iron within, as each mighty shell leads to iron without.

>> No.49058622

Not quite: alphas can do Cati + digi + power dagger +chain fist, for the same amount of attacks, but with them all having armourbane, and costing 30 points less.

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>> No.49058687

Get that alpha legion fuckery away from me.

>> No.49058697

You seem a bit... bitter

>> No.49058715

Next thing you will tell me all about how you took Iron Havocs.

>> No.49058747

>Creedence Clearwater Revival
>It aint me doesn't start playing

>> No.49058753

I was aiming for autistic :( God damn it anon.

How metal would it be to use Breachers as troops with tons of ap4 blasts landing all around them? Middle launchers, grenades launchers, ect. Would be epic as the Breachers literally waded through the Iron Fire.

>> No.49058770

Nah, it's all about the Tyrant Siege in a Spartan with Armillus Dynat. Did you know that he has a cognis signum and no ranged weapon (except for a phosphex bomb)? Makes for an excellent mixed shooting and assault deathstar, albeit an incredibly expensive one.

>> No.49058798

What's ap4 going to do in 30k?

>> No.49058809

Hey /hhg/, I was at a festival over the weekend, whats with the new general pic? Is it to do with the new AL vs IF book? if so what spicy new memes have I missed out on?

>> No.49058811

Kill mechanicus/ cultist scum?

>> No.49058812

The black is done by layering three coats of black wash over a base of Vallejo heavy charcoal highlighted with sombre grey.

>> No.49058903

Allow you to reroll armor saves as you aim rather close to your own models as they benefit from fearless and die like epic metal monsters.

>> No.49058918

I would rather play Iron Hands honestly, but fuck me for wanting a metallic unadorned scheme with copper scents

>> No.49058980

I also considered Ultramarines early crusade with the gun metal grey, I dig msu and the whole we are the logistics legion, let's copy other stuff use it for our own and let or highly aggressive gene seed allow us to recruit from any planet we get our paws on.

Side note, the Ultramarines gene seed remains the best in 40k because Guilliman is still alive, his genetic influence is what allows their gene seed to remain the most potent 10k years later.

>> No.49059004

You know, thinking about it, alongside my love of breachers makes me want to field them bitches. What, power swords? Randomly? Omglob.

>> No.49059276

Aren't the best praetors those EW 3++ Salamanders?

>> No.49059296

Big iron, big iron!

>> No.49059518

I only have 1 heavy support left, the other three are taken. Iron Havocs or Tyrants?

>> No.49059720

Original idea, to be honest.

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