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>> No.42525286

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT I SWEAR YOU DID THIS TO FUCK WITH ME.

ALTERNATE RACIAL TRAITS STARTING OVER.

>> No.42525306

>>42525286
>Humans have even more fantastic racial traits.

Shocker.

>> No.42525308

>>42525286
YEAH YEAH CORE RACES NOBODY FUCKING CARES.

>> No.42525325

>>42525234
>Unlucky Halfling

Wow, that's harsh, but kind of makes for an interesting background for a halfling mage. Arcane casters tend to be pretty rare among halflings, don't they?

>> No.42525367

>>42525308
FREE COMMAND AND CHARM PERSON TO DHAMPIR, NICE IF YOU'RE INTO THAT KIND OF THING.

WAIT IF GILLMEN LOSE AMPHIBIOUS TO BECOME DEEP GILLMEN.. DOESN'T THAT MEAN THEY CAN'T BREATHE WATER ANYMORE?

>> No.42525371

>>42525247
>Tier List
>"Vigilante" class

...am I missing something here?

>> No.42525390

>>42525234
Oh hey.

A Racial Trait for humans that replaces the bonus feat and might actually be worth it.

+1 to all saves is nice, and technically more of a benefit than a save-boosting feat might be.

ALSO YOU BEST STICK AROUND MOTHERFUCKER

SPHERES WISHCRAFTER IS INBOUND

BITCH

>>42525367
Also them losing amphibious means they can't breathe air anymore I think.

>> No.42525396

>>42525308
Holy shit, Orc Atavism is awesome. It's like a condensed version of why people played Half-orcs in 3.5

>> No.42525404

>>42525371
IT'S A TERRIBLE BATMAN CLASS WITH YOUR CHOICE OF A HALF-FIGHTER, HALF-ROGUE, HALF-WIZARD, OR HALF-CLERIC STAPLED TO IT. DON'T EVEN BOTHER.

>> No.42525437

>>42525367
Why the FUCK don't Changelings have +2 to Int and Cha in the first place?

>> No.42525452

>>42525367
Ooh, tribalistic gives an actual reason for non-Taldane humans to not speak Common for once. And I was just planning some tribal raids...

>> No.42525462

>>42525286
>>42525308
>>42525367
>>42525404
WHY ARE WE YELLING?

>> No.42525473

>>42525437
Because Mark Seifter wasn't around to infect Paizo's material with common sense.

>> No.42525489

>>42525462
WE'RE NOT YELLING, WE'RE JUST SPEAKING KELLID.

>> No.42525529

>>42525462
BECAUSE HOLDING SHIFT AND EXCESSIVE SWEARING IS HOW YOU CAN REST ASSURED IT'S THE QANON BRAND YOU KNOW AND TRUST, WITHOUT NAMEFAGGERY.

>> No.42525558

>>42525489
OOGA BOOGA WHERE THE CHELISH WOMEN AT!?

>> No.42525565

YADDA YADDA SOMETHING SOMETHING CASTER SUPREMACY

YES PAIZO WE ALL KNOW

(SOME OF THESE ARE FUCKING SWEET THOUGH FOR REAL, I AM ALWAYS 100% DOWN FOR SUMMONING ANCIENT FAERIE TALE FIGURES)

>> No.42525606

EVER WANTED A CLOUD GIANT BUDDY, OR A HANDFUL OF KAMI AT YOUR BECK AND CALL?

>> No.42525632

>>42525367
Okay, real talk, Mostly Human seems like it should be an option for all Native Outsiders. On top of that, who wouldn't take it? Being able to use Enlarge Person on yourself would be great.

>> No.42525636

>Dirty Tactics Toolbox gave us amazing enchantments and fun wondrous items
>Inner Sea Races introduces us to all sorts of amazing traits and races

Seriously who is writing these? It's just one amazing book after the other.

If the guy writing these is a guy writing Hell's Vengeance, we might be in for a very good time.

>> No.42525683

>>42525565
>Mantle of the Magic Warriors
GO GO POWER RANGERS!

>> No.42525689

I want to marry a Monk!

>> No.42525699

HEY.

QANON.

HOW'S THIS LOOK?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/18oPrV2by24lsp0LbwhFLNBvVNNW7vn1-FLIt0xu3B44/edit?usp=sharing

>> No.42525701

>>42525689

Those tits are at least two cup sizes too large.

I'm fine with tits that big on a courtesan or sorceress, but a monk should be a lot more reasonable.

>> No.42525706

>>42525632
FUCK THAT BRO
MECHANICS ARE FINE BUT FUCK THAT FLAVOUR
IF I'M A SYLPH I AM GOING TO BE SURROUNDED BY ADORABLE FLUTTERY BREEZES ALL FUCKING DAY
FUCK BEING A BORING HUMAN WITH A COUPLE MINOR TRICKS.

>> No.42525736

>>42525529

>Dat Elemental Mastery spell.

>> No.42525759

>>42525699
NICE BRO, LOOKS LIKE IT WAS YOU WHO WAS THE ONE GRANTING WISHES.

I'M TAKING THAT SHIT INTO A NEW CAMPAIGN WITH ME THIS GODDAMN SATURDAY SO FINGERS CROSSED.

>> No.42525817

>>42525759
EXCELLENT.

YOU LET ME- Ehem. You let me know it it goes, aight?

>> No.42525833

>>42525706

>mfw there isn't a unique armor for the Ulfen
>mfw there isn't a breastplate carved with glowing runes that absorb slain foes and empower the wearer.

>> No.42525838

>>42525565
>>42525606

>Overlook

Holy fuck that seems amazing. SR applying sucks, but god damn, +20 to Stealth, Hide In Plain Sight, and memory manipulation all as a single 3rd level spell, and it's at minutes per level.

>> No.42525869

Is there a magical item that will allow my character to transform into an invulnerable statue like the tanuki suit in SMB3?

If there is none how could i homebrew it?.

>> No.42525872

WE'RE IN THE HOME FUCKING STRETCH NOW, BOYS

LAST BATCH OF MECHANICS SHIT

WONDEROUS FUCKING ITEMS

EIGHT PAGES OF EM

BASK IN THE GLORY

>> No.42525907

>>42525706

>Mail of Sly Steps
>+2 Chain shirt, no armor check penalty, dexterity bonus of +5, can take a 5-foot step as an immediate action on getting hit, even if he's already taken one that turn, and he can still take 5-foot steps next turn.
>No uses per day or anything, this shit is constant.

>> No.42525915

>>42525759
>>42525706

Guys... Guys hold up.

Between these unique weapons/armor and the descriptions of many racial traits, anyone notice this guy's making some serious expansions or changes to the lore of certain ethnic groups, in a very good way?

Elves now seem like heroic sentinels against chaos and the machinations of evil, Taldan now more than ever come across as extravagant, posh "gentlemen", and the Chelish really feel more oppressed and lockstep than they ever did.

And dat Azlanti lore with the serpentfolk, yes.

>> No.42525925

HELMET OF "GIVE EVERY-FUCKING-BODY A TEAMWORK FEAT". COOL BUT THEN IT REQUIRES THEY MEET THE PREREQS SO FUCK SHARING RACIAL ONES I GUESS.

>> No.42525929

>>42525872
>Binding Contract
Oh baby.

>> No.42525941

>>42525869
The Statue spell lets you turn to and from a stone statue at will for the duration. You're not invulnerable, and it's a relatively high-level spell though, so an item of it would be kinda pricey. But the spell is there.

>>42525907
Yeah. 1/round 'Fuck yo full attack'

>> No.42525962

>>42525872

>Agent's Clasp
>Pic Related

We secret agent now.

>> No.42525974

>>42525941

Is it even only 1/Round, as written? I mean, I would assume that was the intent, but...

>> No.42525991

>>42525872
>Belt of Impossible Action

You motherfucking BET that kobold's wrestling a motherfucking T-rex!

>>42525974
It's an immediate action. You only get one of those a round. Normally anyway.

>> No.42526026

>>42525991

Ah, okay. For a second it seemed even crazier than it already is.

>> No.42526052

ROBE OF KITSUNE BEING AWESOME AT MENTAL SKILLS

WARHORN OF HALF-ORCS DELIVERING MESSAGES VIA TRUMPET BLAST

CLOAK OF SKINWALKERS BECOMING THEIR HERITAGE

OINTMENT OF ULFEN HAVING NO FUCKING TIME FOR YOUR ILLUSION BULLSHIT

FEELS SO GOOD.

>>42525974
IMMEDIATE ACTIONS ARE BASICALLY YOU STEALING THE SWIFT ACTION FROM YOURSELF NEXT TURN.

>> No.42526073

>>42525925

That Elven Still sounds useful as fuck, if not so the party has an effectively unlimited supply of top-shelf Elven Wine.

>> No.42526086

>>42526052

Aw shit nigga, that Lycanthrope Skin.

>> No.42526096

>>42525872
>>42526052
Oh god. Half-orc with orc atavism, with the Belkzen Battle Standard (which can count as a Cavalier's standard, I'll note) and the armor of grim triumph? goin full warlord, man. And you're still smarter than the average orc, yet just as strong, and inspiring to everybody around you. Holy shit.

Add in Beast Rider and you could have some truly amazing-as-fuck cavaliers. Or Hunters, I guess.

>> No.42526146

Why the fuck is this book so good?

WHY
H
Y

>> No.42526159

LAST PAGE BROS

AFTER THIS ALL THAT'S LEFT IS RACIAL LORE (WHICH IS STILL FUCKING SWEET DON'T GET ME WRONG I LOVE ME SOME FLAVOUR)

HERE WE HAVE SHIRT OF HALFLINGS BEING UNIMPORTANT

CLOCK OF SNAKEMANS NOT HAVING TIME FOR YOUR SPELL SHIT RIGHT NOW

DRUMS OF KELLIDS SOOTHING SAVAGE BEASTS OR SAVAGING SOOTHED BEASTS

CROWBAR OF KOBOLDS SHAPING EARTH LIKE MOTHERFUCKERS

HAT OF HUMANS KNOWING LANGUAGES I GUESS?

END OF LINE

>> No.42526201

>>42526159
>Crowbar of Earthquake

>> No.42526220

>>42526096

>Campaign in which all the player characters are half-orcs or full-blooded orcs with Leadership to get more orcs, with one player acting as the Warlord that carries the clan's banner into battle and empowers everyone else.

>> No.42526225

>>42526201
>>42526159
>Kobold Crowbar of EARTHQUAKE.

DAMN.

>> No.42526228

>be ulfen Druid
>summon Giants
>turn allies into Giants
>be Giants

>> No.42526235

>>42526096
>cavaliers
>hunters
>thinking this small.
Nah man, Warlords and Tacticians all the way.

>>42526159
>Tremor Bar
>combined with Bushwhacker
Half-Life 3 Kobolds confirmed

>> No.42526244

>>42525869
>>42525941
With Monstrous Physique II or higher, you can gain the Freeze special ability, which allows you to stand so still that you look like a statue (mechanically allowing you to take 20 on stealth checks in plain sight). As far as I know, only gargoyles grant the ability, but maybe there are others I don't know about.

>> No.42526251

>>42525925
My GM fucked us with an item like that ratfolk cloak once. We had planned to sneak in so we took out the gate guard all stealth like thinking we were slick when suddenly every dude in the keep was on us.

>> No.42526256

>>42526228
>wot rings u got bicht

>> No.42526264

>>42526244
Phantom Armors can, to appear as a normal suit of armor.

>> No.42526297

>>42525759
holy crap sling staffs are slingshots

>> No.42526307

>>42525689
I wanna marry a Mystic!

>> No.42526333

>>42526307
I wanna marry a muscle Wizard!

>> No.42526360

>>42526307
>>42526333

I wanna marry a kobold!

>> No.42526365

Last thread someone mentioned playing a Kitsune fighter, and another person posted how they thought it would work.

So now I'm curious, would a free-hand fighter with dervish dance and the magical tail feat line be any good, or would that just be a retarded gimmick build that's shit even by martial standards? What kind of stat spread and other feats would you pick for that?

>> No.42526378

>>42526360
Anon, some of human girls can also have highly supressed gag reflex.

>> No.42526391

>>42526307
>>42526333
>>42526360
I wanna marry a Changeling!

Speaking of, we never got their pages...

>> No.42526419

>>42526365
If you want a melee Kitsune with Magical Tails, you'd probably be better off with a Battle Oracle than a fighter. Especially since this curse.

A Barbarian could also do, since Barbarians basically only NEED Power Attack and Raging Vitality.

>> No.42526421

>>42526228
The Legend Never Dies, anon.

>> No.42526449

>>42526391
inb4 the editor let us down and Crystal has shoved them full of trannies and shemales

>> No.42526470

>>42526421
>be bard
>power up the bass cannon

>> No.42526474

>>42526256

>10 Dexterity

but don't tell anybody you leveled that U fukcign faggot

>> No.42526477

>>42526073

Agreed. Definitely something I plan on bringing into my campaign at some point as a possible 'invention' of sorts. See, my GM has things set up to where if something new is made, a patent is made and sold so the item can be marketed world wide. If I could work out a royalties deal, I could have a really nice bi-monthly income with something like that. That would be very handy in helping fund my budding mages guild.

>> No.42526482

>>42526449
> changeling getting "filled" by trannies and shemales
I think that's the point.

>> No.42526519

>>42526391
AWWWW SHIIIIT SOOOON

SLIPPED MY FUCKING MIND

AS CHANGELINGS ARE WONT TO DO

LET ME JUST GET THE FUCK ON THAT RIGHT NOW

NO MAN SHOULD BE DEPRIVED OF A WAIFU (AND THIS ONE'S PRETTY DAMN CUTE YOU MIGHT SAY)

OKAY BUT I'M OUT FOR A BIT, QANON'S GOT SHIT TO ATTEND TO

I'LL BE BACK FOR MORE LATER IF THERE'S ANYBODY STILL WANTS ANY OLD THING.

>> No.42526562

>>42525991
>needing a belt to grapple
Grapple's not limited by size, it's one of the only three.

>> No.42526574

>>42526519

>Changelings have deep insecurity and desperation for love and acceptance, or frustration and resentment toward those who subtly reject them

I want to protect that smile.

Also I don't see a mention of Intersex or Transgender at all.

>> No.42526596

>>42526574
>Also I don't see a mention of Intersex or Transgender at all.
That's the point, mayne. Based editors cut that shit right out.

>> No.42526609

>>42526574
It was cut, yeah.

This time. She did say there'd be other chances...

>> No.42526621

After seeing that picture of a vishkanya I now want to play one, but damn it, they got some terrible racial traits, and the ones in this book aren't much better.

What a bummer.

>> No.42526633

>>42525941
>>42526244
Seems that I have to homebrew the item I want but at least I have an idea of how to do it.
Thanks lads.

>> No.42526650

>>42526574
>Also I don't see a mention of Intersex or Transgender at all.

Kobolds took the bullet on that one.

>> No.42526661

How long until Mark Seifter gets the sit-down by the good people at Paizo about how he needs to alter his views unless he wants to be "on the wrong side of history?"

>> No.42526680

Was the Fetchling posted? One of my players likes being an edgelord.

>> No.42526689

>>42526519
>goblin changelings

Fuck all the other business about changelings, this is the most interesting and entertaining thing on that page.

>> No.42526707

>>42526661
That's why we should all take a moment every morning to lend him our energy.

>> No.42526715

>>42526650

Kobolds are one of the few races I think would be improved by the addition of intersex or transgender.

If they kept it at Kobolds I'd say this was a resounding success, so why does Crystal insist on making EVEN MORE Transgender races? She's already got Kobolds, why Changelings?

>> No.42526772

>>42526650
>>42526715
Poor kobolds.

I can accept the increased commonality being a side-effect of kobolds being genetically freakshows who mutate like bastards (Check that plantigrade/digitigrade division, yo), but that 'celebrated' thing can fuck right off.

>> No.42526792

>>42526421
>>42526256
how do I giantdad

>> No.42526802

>>42526715
Presumably because she is unable to go about her duties without inserting her own world views into a game that, frankly, has very little to do with sexuality overall.

If we end up going all the way down that road then I demand Catgirl Kiss be made a canon feat.

>> No.42526813

>>42526391
I wanna marry a Dhampir!

>> No.42526820

>>42526792
If they're compatible, Titan Mauler and that mask archetype that Mark wrote, if memory serves?

>> No.42526834

>>42526792
>>42526820

Remember 10 Dexterity, that's important.

>> No.42526838 [SPOILER] 

>>42526715

>Kobolds are one of the few races I think would be improved by the addition of intersex or transgender.

In what way?

>>42526689

Would a Goblin Changeling be absurdly pretty by Goblin standards, or by Human standards?

>> No.42526875

>>42526421
Actually, what would be the best way to stat him? I'm guessing some kind of Grave Knight or Skeletal Champion, Bu I'm unsure as to the base class. Probably Barbarian, Bloodrager (For that Blackflame), Ant Pali, Warlord, or Harbinger.

He also needs that one belt that allows you to use multiple rings, and some kind of mask item.

>> No.42526878

>>42526792
Couple of levels of Titan Fighter
Armored Hulk Barbarian for the rest
Acquire "Come and Get Me"

Mask of the Stony demeanor, fullplate, greatsword, etc.

>> No.42526892

>>42526878
I want to build this

>> No.42526895

>>42526838
>In what way?

They're small weird lizard-things obsessed with dragons and treated as cannon fodder 98% of the time.

Transgenderism in a race that doesn't quite express sexual dimorphism and reproduces all funky is, to me, significantly more palatable than saying many Changelings are Intersex because FUCK YOU.

>>42526875
>Actually, what would be the best way to stat him?

Giantdad is officially Con > Strength > Wisdom > Intelligence > Charisma = Dexterity

>> No.42526900

>>42526574
Keep it secret, keep it safe.

>> No.42526906

>>42526574

Why the fuck are transgender and intersex even being mentioned in the same sentence like they're somehow equivalent and/or similar?

As someone on the IS spectrum here I'm getting fucking triggered here by crystals bullshit

>> No.42526919

>>42526519
So no more baby swaps, no more "every changeling is a tall, pale, raven-haired woman with mismatched eyes?" Just a category of half-breeds?

Ouch.

>> No.42526923

>>42526895

Maybe, but the fact that intersex kobolds are apparently abundantly common and celebrated because they have 'extra draconic features" (for whatever reason) just strikes me as absolutely needless.

>> No.42526929

>>42526574
>>42526900

>mfw my Slayer in the monster-hunting campaign has a Changeling daughter
>mfw she's 16 years old
>mfw she was abducted from our village during a dragon attack
>mfw my entire reason to adventure is get her back and protect that smile

>> No.42526932

>>42526895
I would think Cha would be higher than Int or Wis since it matches more thematically with Pyromancy, and you completely neglect your Int and Faith stats.

>> No.42526934

>>42526919
Rat Paladin wants to know if you have a problem with that

>> No.42526952

>>42526892
I did, it's super-fun even though the game died right after the first combat. Throw in Cornugon Smash, Intimidating Prowess, and Hurtful for added fun.

>> No.42526957

>>42526929
You can do it. She's waiting for you.

>> No.42526974

>>42526895
This is pretty much it. I think Kobolds of all races being intersex is most acceptable, since for most of them, sex doesn't fucking matter, won't fucking matter, and is apparently considered a chore at best and gross at worst. Add onto the fact that kobolds mutate more than the X-men.

>>42526923
But yeah, celebrating it's fucking idiotic. Celebrate being a dragonbold, not the presence or absence of organs that most kobolds don't give a flying shit about.

>>42526934
I am seriously considering Rat Paladin to be the new iconic. Seelah can go hang with Antipaladin in the 'not actually Iconics' bin.

>> No.42526980 [SPOILER] 

>>42526929

>my Slayer in the monster-hunting campaign has a Changeling daughter

So, uh, are you and the mother still on speaking terms?

>> No.42527023

hey dudes, I've got a couple questions about class tiers.

Why is the swashbuckler so low?
Why is the Druid so high?
What about multiclassing?

Currently I'm playing a Druid/Rogue. Archetypes are Wolf Shaman and Poisoner. Currently my level is 7 with D4/R3.
I plan on focusing on druid levels til lv8 or 9. My character is focused on tripping, poisioning and flanking.

My BAB is only 5 currently and I feel like i may have fucked up my character. Any suggestions?

>> No.42527032

>>42526934
On the one hand, I can see that it's freeing not be locked into one set appearance that reeks of vampire likenesses. On the other hand, it feels somewhat of a loss that now there's no real unifying factor beyond the hag dilemma - you can have an orc changeling or a catfolk changeling and they just look like whatever that race's definition of beauty is. At least half-elves still get pointy ears and half-orcs get pointy teeth. What's a changeling get? A bad mother.

>> No.42527034

>>42526772
I now want a racial archetype of some kind caster class for kobolds based around exemplifying a Ditto-like aspect of mutable genetic code that leaves them predisposed to transmutation and polymorphing magic.

>>42526838
Probably goblin standards, given the descriptions of changelings. Unless some of us are goblins, that probably makes it less sexy for most of us, but I also think it makes it more funny, especially from the perspective of a goblin changeling traveling in a party of PCs.

"I WAS THE PRETTIEST GIRL BACK IN MY TRIBE, LINDA. ALL THE MEN FOUGHT OVER ME. EVEN NOW, MELVIN AND CHAD ARE PROBABLY ARGUING OVER WHICH ONE OF THEM SHOULD GET TO BE MY MATE- BUT DON'T WORRY, I'LL LET YOU HAVE THEM. I DON'T REALLY LIKE HUMANS THAT WAY."

"Riiiight... Whatever you say, Muckbump."

>> No.42527035

>>42526596
Thank you Based Editor.
Let us all give our energy to this anonymous editor and Mark Seifer

And let us all honor the Kobold, who took upon himself a grave sacrifice for our benefit, and was able to shoulder his burden well.

>> No.42527055

Not sure if qt3 or just crazy. Probably both.

>> No.42527056

>>42526957

She was born in the same year all the magical shit on the continent we're adventuring in went down, she's insinuated to be a major plot point in our DM's campaign.

She's pretty much the Ciri to my Geralt, right down to the magical nature and probable prophecy surrounding her.

>>42526980

No, but at the same time she isn't dead.

One of my character's greatest fears is that his daughter wasn't abducted by the dragon or ran off during the confusion, but was taken by her mother and turned into a hag.

>> No.42527076

>>42526929
>party member is a changeling
>my character is a Thassilonian magus who got locked in a time prison and was rescued by the accidental efforts of the aforementioned changeling
>she finds his unapologetic and blunt honesty, loyalty to her on principle and complete disregard for what she is refreshing
>she thinks he'd be repulsed if she got intimately close to him, he thinks he'd be disrespectful if he told her that's what he wanted, it is adorable

>> No.42527082

>>42527056
Holy shit Bleached Gnomes are terrifying.

>> No.42527090

>>42527034
>"I WAS THE PRETTIEST GIRL BACK IN MY TRIBE, LINDA. ALL THE MEN FOUGHT OVER ME. EVEN NOW, MELVIN AND CHAD ARE PROBABLY ARGUING OVER WHICH ONE OF THEM SHOULD GET TO BE MY MATE- BUT DON'T WORRY, I'LL LET YOU HAVE THEM. I DON'T REALLY LIKE HUMANS THAT WAY."

>mfw Goblin Changeling looks and acts like Snooki.

>> No.42527100

>>42527023
Druid has class features that can replace entire classes. It has features at level 1 that would be replicated with a level 9 feat that's heavily suggested to be banned in the first place.

Swashbuckler being so low is a fluke. I mean it has CHARMED LIFE!

>> No.42527118

>>42527100
A defensive feature alone isn't enough to carry a class, yo.

>> No.42527135

>>42527023
Without going into a whole lot of detail:

>Why is the swashbuckler so low?
They only do one thing, and not particularly well.
>Why is the Druid so high?
Wildshape + Summoning + Spellcasting
>What about multiclassing?
Too many possible combinations to map out. Suffice to say that you can move classes up and down the tiers using multiclassing.

>My BAB is only 5 currently and I feel like i may have fucked up my character. Any suggestions?
Your rogue levels are holding you back, consider retraining if you have the option. Otherwise don't go any farther into them.

>> No.42527138 [SPOILER] 

>>42526957

420 blaze it

>> No.42527156

>> No.42527163

>>42527023

I certainly hope that rogue is an unchained rogue at least.

>> No.42527167

>>42527023
Did you read the deactof the Tiers?

Also you did screw up. You Multiclassed into a Rogue, however your sheer volume of Casting, wildshaping, and companion (you did pick one, right?) Should help you out so long as you don't take anymore levels in Rogue.

Also what this>>42527100
guy said, except the Swashbucklers thing. Charmed Life thing he says is a dumb joke meme that should have died months ago.

>> No.42527178

Now I think about it, how intersex can a kobold even be? They have such little sexual dimorphism, the only real differentiating factor would be what plumbing they've got.

>>42527118
It's a joke, yo. A meme even.

>> No.42527184

continuing waifu dump

>> No.42527191

>>42527035

>And let us all honor the Kobold, who took upon himself

Don't you mean ximself? :^)

>> No.42527210

>>42526333
Muscle Wizard isn't even viable in Pathfinder.

>> No.42527249

>>42527210
Look at Spheres of Power and check again.

>> No.42527251

>>42526974
The way it reads, it sounds like they celebrate intersex births because they have a high likelihood of ending up dragonbolds. I am glad that this kind of stuff was contained to one sentence in the book, and in a pretty hard to find place. We managed to narrowly avoid it in changlings.

>> No.42527255

>>42527178
>Now I think about it, how intersex can a kobold even be? They have such little sexual dimorphism, the only real differentiating factor would be what plumbing they've got.
I think that's about it. Underneath that scaly cloaca they would have both a sword and a sheathe which is my fetish

>>42527210
It is with Spheres

>> No.42527258

>>42527023

The druid is a full-caster, which means it gets a LOT of magic and magic's sheer problem-solving power skyrockets your tier placement most of the time.

It also gets an animal companion, meaning it has a built-in bodyguard who's not as good at fighting as a fighter but can do a pretty good approximation (particularly pouncers, who really start to get up in Fighty McGee's grill).

And it can turn into pretty much any animal, plant, or elemental you can imagine all day long after a while, so it's got climb speeds, pounce, swim speeds, flight, earth glide, and a whole lot of other groovy powers at its fingertips. The Druid can get RIDICULOUSLY powerful if you know what you're doing.

Swashbuckler is low because for the most part all it's got going for it is a decent but not amazing selection of minor sword tricks and some social skills in exchange for being a front-line class with TERRIBLE saves and defensive class features that actively make it worse at using its offensive class features. Your action economy on a Swashbuckler is a clusterfuck, and it holds the rare distinction of being a martial class that runs out of a resource LONG before the caster's starting to get low on spells.

>> No.42527268

>>42527156

I'm not sure if those are wide hips or just very muscular thighs.

>> No.42527282

>>42527268
Yes.

>> No.42527298

>>42527251
>We managed to narrowly avoid it in changlings.

Until Crystal loops back around and takes another swipe at it when she gets a chance to talk about Changelings.

Seriously, she's gonna get a single Changeling side-character and she's going to write a whole article on how they're trans* and intersex.

>> No.42527312

>>42527268
I'd wager thighs since, iirc, they do have a swim speed. also for leg-locking

>> No.42527320

>>42526974
Why don't we give that fella a backstory and some personality, then? Something about the way he holds himself makes me think he's got more sass and attitude than your average paladin would. He definitely looks like he appreciates looking clean and fancy more than your average ratfolk would, too. I'd imagine he must be playing against the grain of what people normally expect from ratfolk. Maybe he was adopted by non-ratfolk? Likely humans, I would guess. If his tastes are so fine, whoever adopted him was probably well off- lesser nobility, perhaps. He probably stood out in the noble's court a lot whenever he was brought as a child- maybe teased by bratty children of other nobles. A determination to show them all up and defy expectations might be where he developed the somewhat bold and sassy demeanor that I predict he would have.

>> No.42527326

Celebrants of husbandos will have some happiness too; it looks like every human tribe has a male and female representative, and they cover the gamut.

>> No.42527327

>>42527034
>I now want a racial archetype of some kind caster class for kobolds based around exemplifying a Ditto-like aspect of mutable genetic code that leaves them predisposed to transmutation and polymorphing magic.

The Chameleon breed?

>> No.42527334 [SPOILER] 

>>42527251

>All dragonbolds are canonically intersex.

>> No.42527346

>>42527156
I'd stick her fish.

>> No.42527358

>>42527298

Hags give birth exclusively to daughters. Trans Changelings make sense, intersex is a blurring of how this process works. Hags are a one-gender race, it seems utterly pointless to throw in being intersex just because.

>> No.42527371

>>42527268
>>42527312

It actually looks like thighs *and* hips, since from the position of her feet and the space between them she's definitely got a fairly sizable thigh gap.

There's no way those legs are going to be touching if she stood straight and level.

>> No.42527381

>> No.42527398

>>42527326
Chris Hemsworth?

>> No.42527409

>>42526934
Why is this rat classy as fuck

>> No.42527435

>>42527023
Normally the options a class has to break the game. A character like the monk is lower than other warriors because he needs many stats to function well. You need wis, dex, str, and con to be high to excel at different things your class does. Meanwhile Wizards pump int, Sorcs pump cha, to the max because that's their one source.

You are exploring a cave, and you come across a collapsed bridge. You can see it's a 60 foot drop with spikes everywhere, and it's 100 feet across. There's no other way past, what do you do? Does the rogue start tying ropes together, the ranger ties it to an arrow and fires it across, the barbarian holds the rope while the others walk across, and the monk pulls the rope up with the barbarian holding on for dear life? No. The wizard creates a wall of stone and you walk across. Or the Summoner gets a giant owl to ferry you across. Or the cleric spends a couple of hours turning the chasm into a swimming pool.

>> No.42527438

>>42527358
>it seems utterly pointless to throw in being intersex just because.
That is often the case. It's the same as having a token black guy and pretending that on its own makes you not a racist.

>> No.42527439

>>42527381
I'll admit that I like them lanky and colourful, but what the shit is with his face? For some reason it rubs me so wrong, and I can't put my finger on why.

>> No.42527451

>>42527326

I want to know who is doing this art, because this shit blows all the "realistic-cartoony" crap Paizo does out of the water, with the Ulfen man looking more like something out of Legend of the Cryptids than Golarion (look at that man, husbando as FUCK.)

I take it there are examples of Ulfen women as well? To save time on uploading, might I suggest just putting them next to each other when you're making the image?

>> No.42527467

>>42527409
Note the symbol on his chest

It's the symbol of Kalistrade, an offshoot of the church of Abadar that believes in scorning physical pleasure, having a strict diet, and constant grooming, in order to be blessed with LOADSAMONE!

>> No.42527483

>>42527439
His mouth is too wide and he's got rapeface. More than a passing similarity to the DMC reboot version of Dante.

>> No.42527484

>>42527082
Bleached gnomes: Born on a Monday.

>> No.42527495

>>42527467

Fantasy Dutch?

>> No.42527499

>>42527358
>it seems utterly pointless to throw in being intersex just because.
Yeah. But now we finally know what is stronger than magic. SJW idealism.

Intersex not just in biological creatures, but in creatures literally banged into existence with magic.

>> No.42527520

>>42527451
The time saved on uploading would be less than the time lost in merging.

>> No.42527527

>>42527381
Oh goodness gracious, Donte from DmC and Sergei from Asura's Wrath had a gay butt baby!

>> No.42527534

>>42527451
Ulfen women though yes sir.

>> No.42527542

>>42527520
>>42527326

And to think we were complaining about the lack of husbandos last thread.

These guys and the Lashunta male are marriage material.

>> No.42527544

>>42527483
That'd do it. Thanks for helping me figure it out.

>>42527298
I'm pretty insulted by the way Paizo treats non-binary gender stuff. Assuming Crystal is trans (I don't know and don't care to look it up) that's not an excuse to go and just go "Intersex!" on things. In fact, it's basically the gender equivalent of Cultural Appropriation, which in itself is bullshit.

>> No.42527555

>>42527467
>>42527495
Fantasy Switzerland; they run an unaffiliated free-trade nation (Druma) where money is the sole principle of government, and their military is literally called the Mercenary League.

Also, they're not anything to do with Abadar. The church of lodsemone requires no god.

>> No.42527560

>>42527499

Well, also it seems wrong to have a character be Trans AND Intersex. The thinking is that when you are intersex, there is no particular gender assignment, so you would already be making the decision yourself. You wouldn't be a trans man if you're intersex and identify as male, you're an intersex male. Trans doesn't overlap with that, to the best of my understanding.

>> No.42527580

>>42527542

I need that Lashunta male in my life.

>> No.42527592

>>42527544
>Assuming Crystal is trans (I don't know and don't care to look it up)

She's a true-blue purple-haired Trans of the most Tumblr variety.

>> No.42527593

>>42526307
Apparently her name is Fayelin. Good choice on waifu. She is an exquisite beauty.

>> No.42527598

>> No.42527616

>>42527598
When did Slightly-Older-Aladdin get here?

>> No.42527621

>>42527580
Done.

>> No.42527632

>>42527598

CURVED.

SWORDS.

>> No.42527640

>>42527560
I never mentioned trans, but it seems that Paizo is treating them as very similar things. Isn't that against the message they claim to be sending?

I wouldn't be surprised if they are completely uneducated on this shit.

>> No.42527645

>>42526365
I'm trying to work on a Fighter/Unchained Rogue into the Steel Falcon (and possibly Chevalier, Low Templar or Hellknight) prestige class.

The problem with the Kitsune Fighter is you want to be able to use bluff, stealth and disguise in order to take full advantage of spells like invisibility and disguise self but you won't be able to do that with 2 skill points per level.

Hopefully i can figure out how to make this work, but so far i think going Fighter 4/Rogue 3 then into a prestige class is the best way to do a dex focused Kitsune Fighter with magical powers.

>> No.42527651

>>42527534
>that qt
>that filename
Thank you Based Erastil

>>42527555
Actually the Aristocracy are almost all followers of the Prophecies of Kalistrade, and to even be allowed to immigrate into the country proper you have to display an appropriate level of conversion.

Also if you reread the Prophecies of Kalistrade blurb in the ISWG it points out the connection with Abadar.

>>42527621
If I were a gril, I would immediately husbando

>> No.42527653

>>42527467
FUCK, I knew that symbol looked familiar when I was writing >>42527320, but I couldn't really place it. I should have known too, my PC spent like 5 five level's worth of time in Druma in the last campaign I ran. Those gloves should have been a give-away too, since followers of the Golden Prophecies have to abstain from touching the skin of non-followers. It only further makes me like the idea of what I suggested before though, especially since (if the guy has enough sense with money to be able to turn good profits) he could eventually make all the haters eat their words- your race doesn't matter to the Prophecies of Kalistrade, only your adherence to the rules and your ability to make bank.

>> No.42527673

>>42527598

>> No.42527674

>>42527621

I don't know if Human women and Lashunta men can have children, but I'm sure as hell going to try and find out.

>> No.42527730

>>42527673
The Azlanti hide their amusement at you understanding the reference.

>> No.42527731

>>42527673
To be fair, I would still be kinda intimidated by a monkey with a sword.
Kinda like in that one webm where those African soldiers give a chimp a machine gun.

And no, I don't have that webm, sorry

>> No.42527750

>>42527621

>Reminder that Lashunta men get +2 Intelligence, +2 Strength and -2 Wisdom for attributes and at-will spells (including Mage Hand) at 11 Intelligence or higher.

>> No.42527755

Welcome to Chelax may I take your order?

>> No.42527757

>>42527381
So... Are they not!gypsies?

>> No.42527758

>>42527544
B-b-but they gave us the iconic Shaman! Friendly reminder that they also randomly decided one day to retcon the iconic ninja to be gender fluid too. Surely that proves they're progressive and respectful of non-binary issues!

>> No.42527759

>>42527730
Thulsa, is that you, or are you his Azlanti cousin?

>> No.42527765

who are the russians of golarion?

>> No.42527775

Looks like the Patriarchy got smashed in the face one too many times.

>> No.42527793

>>42527765

Irriseni, which are an ethnic mixture of Jadwiga (offspring of Baba Yaga) and Ulfen (Scandinavians.)

>>42527755
>>42527775

The woman is too sultry and the man is too haughty.

I love it, exactly what I thought the Chelish would look like.

>> No.42527796

>>42527765
Ulfen are both Scandi and Russ. Have fun with your cheeki breeki

>> No.42527799

>>42527135
>>42527167
>>42527258

Thanks for the replies.

For more info on my Druid/Rogue Galahad:
>Druid lv4
>Wolf Shaman Archetype
>Nature Sense: Wolf Domain
>Rogue lv3
>Poisoner Archtype
>Focus on close quarters combant to short range (5-15ft)
>Flanking for Sneak attack dmg, Tripping, and casting buffs and healing on myself.
>Poisoner archetype gives me a lot of options with crafting poison and using it more effectively.
>Highest Skills: Acrobatics, Perception, Stealth, and craft alchemy.

>> No.42527808

>>42527758
That spoiler caused me harm.

>>42527765
Jadwiga, even though their name derives from Polish. The Polish of Golarion are in Brevoy. I think they're ethnically Iobarian and/or Kellid.

>> No.42527813

>>42527758

To be fair, if anyone's going to be genderfluid, it's those rogue-types and their dozens of disguises.

>> No.42527848

Meanwhile, in Taldor, I'd like to swash her buckles right off.

>> No.42527858

>>42527799
Also

>weapon: Scythe +1

>> No.42527863

>>42527808
>The Polish of Golarion are in Brevoy. I think they're ethnically Iobarian and/or Kellid.

They're a combination of Taldan, Ulfen and Iobarian.

>> No.42527871

If this Taldan's name isn't Hans, there is no justice in the world.

>> No.42527887

>>42527848

Got images of the Shoanti or Tien?

>> No.42527895

>>42527758
Poor ninja. It sounds like her being genderfluid was an afterthought. Paizo is really being a shit to those kinds of people by making their token characters also be afterthoughts. They couldn't even be assed to make a token specifically for genderfluids, and instead just called a random existing character genderfluid.

>> No.42527904

Our little world cruise turns to Tian, for those of you with a touch of.. *sighs, wishes to burn script* Yellow fever.

>> No.42527909

>>42527871

>That armor
>That prettyboy hunk face
>That hair

This is character art, there's no reason this shouldn't be used as character art.

>> No.42527921

>>42527730
>>42527759
>Sorcerer from ancient civilization with ties to snakes
>thread full of pictures and talk of various waifus and husbandos
>wierd discussion about sexuality

Shall we dedicate this thread of Bitches to Thulsa?

>> No.42527928

>>42527813
Vigilante is the ideal class for that. One persona is a female buttslut, the other persona is a very effeminate male buttslut

>> No.42527932

With a sword so short, he's clearly anti-compensating for something.

>> No.42527955

>>42527932
That's a man? I couldn't tell

>> No.42527964

>>42527895
Don't forget that that the class was just a variation of one of the weakest in the game and that they haven't used her/him in anything since.

>> No.42527966

>>42527765
The Jadwiga are descended from Baba Yaga, who was born an actual Sarmatian tribal on Earth in a zillion BCE

>> No.42527967

>>42527932
>>42527904

Reminder the average height of a Tian woman is barely above 5 feet, and the men rarely stand above 5'6.

>> No.42527980

>>42527731
> I would still be kinda intimidated by a monkey with a sword

Are you Hellboy?

>> No.42527982

What's the Vudrani pics? I want me some Indian girls.

>> No.42527990

welcome to shoanti enjoy the shoantel

>> No.42527998

>>42527904
Well, at least they got the weapon used by women right. Woulda been butthurt/10 if she were some asian bimbo wielding a Katana.

>> No.42528014

>>42527813

>"You know, Rikan, you pick the girly disguises an awful lot on these capers."
>"I don't have the physique to go undercover as a different race in this part of the world, that's all."
>Please don't Sense Motive Please don't Sense Motive Please don't Sense Motive Please don't Sense Motive Please don't Sense Motive Please don't Sense Motive Please don't Sense Motive Please don't Sense Motive

>> No.42528016

>>42527184
I find something incredibly appealing in how bendy her spine appears to be.

>> No.42528018

I hear Shoanti women are hairless all over.

ALL over.

>> No.42528043

>>42527982

>> No.42528057

>>42527990
Eh, I like hairy guys. Bald dudes don't do it for me.

>> No.42528059

>>42528016
Do you know how bendy a snake's spine is? REALLY FUCKING BENDY. To be honest, I have no idea, but I can assume...

>> No.42528060

>>42528014

>You will never buy the rogue a Belt of Gender Change

>> No.42528077

>>42527990
>dat loincloth
>>42528018
Dat snu-snu

I just wish they were saddled with something better than NotNativeAmerican
Also we need a Shoanti Iconic. It's the only ethnicity without an iconic

>> No.42528092

>> No.42528109

>> No.42528124

>>42528077
Bloodrager is a Shoanti.

>> No.42528126

>>42528077
>I just wish they were saddled with something better than NotNativeAmerican

They're not Native Americans, those are in Arcadia.

>> No.42528130

>> No.42528148

>> No.42528157

>>42528077
>Dat snu-snu

>Implying she's rough and savage in the sack
>Implying she doesn't treat sex as a ritualized, semi-public affair with clearly defined tops and bottoms

>> No.42528161

>>42528109
Now that's what I call finger lickin good.

>>42528124
Oh. Right. I forgot because Bloodrager Iconic is really dull and boring.

>>42528126
Well they aren't Picts or Jutes, those are Kellid. What are they?

>> No.42528167

Welcome back to Kellid, forgot the female earlier

>> No.42528182

>>42528092
>Curse the Garundi and their godless ways! If not for them, Master Robin wouldn't be in this mess.
>Now, what manner of name is Azim? Varisian? Taldan? Chelish?
>Garundi.
>AAAA

>> No.42528197

>>42528161
Better dull and boring than forcefed SJW bullshit.

>> No.42528200

>>42528148
Which is this one?

>> No.42528203

>>42528157
Stop! My penis can only get so erect.

>> No.42528205

Mwanger danger.

>> No.42528242

>>42528205
>Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Giant Book

>> No.42528244

>>42528157
>>42528203

>Shoanti power bottom

>> No.42528305

>>42528242
>not playing scrollmaster wizard

>> No.42528326

>>42528200
>>42528130 and >>42528148 are Keleshites

This is another Mwangi

>> No.42528365

That's all the ones there are, friends, thank you for joining us on this round the world tour of human cultures. There're more not expanded on in the book, so sorry if your favourite one wasn't here.

>> No.42528368

>>42527326
This is now my next character if my current guy dies in Reign of winter. How can I build this guy? Unfortunately the only path of war stuff allowed is feats, no maneuvers or classes.

>> No.42528369

Any pics of Ustalev folks?

>> No.42528378

>>42528167
"WHAT A LOVELY DAY!"

>> No.42528388

>>42525247
Is there any good way to use a monk? We have one in our party and he hasn't been too useful. He's not the best player; but overall they don't seem like a really god class.

We're thinking about focusing him on grappling and disarming, but we're not sure how to make him effective.

>> No.42528420

>>42528388
Let him retrain into Sacred Fist.

It's like a monk, but actually useful. It has 6/9 Divine Casting as a cleric, solid Tier 3 Wisdom based Fisticuffs, shouldn't need to change stats too much.

>> No.42528438

>>42528388
if your GM lets you reroll, I'd recommend Brawler, personally. It doesn't have the monastic fluff of the Monk, true, but it has a much greater level of flexibility.

>>42528420 also has the right idea.

>> No.42528443

>>42528368
Well, he appears to be a TWF, my guess is barbarian, but maybe ranger, so.. do that.

Conversely, Ulfen're very into lycanthropes, so maybe a Bloodrager with a beasty bloodline. Plus that way you have an excuse to build some CHA to simulate those amazing good looks.

>> No.42528475

>you will never play a male Lashunta Steelfist Commando
>You will never play a male Lashunta Steelfist Commando and reap the benefits of that +2 Strength +2 Intelligence -2 Wisdom.

>> No.42528494

>>42528438
Yeah, our gm used to play as a Brawler in another campaign and god damn are Brawlers badass.

So are there seriously no good monk archetypes or specializations?

Eitherway, his character will probably dies soon so he'll just go with a different character.

>> No.42528500

>>42528475
>Lashunta Steelfist Commando

Meant to say Zweihander Sentinel.

>> No.42528527

>>42528494
Well Tetori makes grappling viable, and Master of Many Styles used to be good... The Unchained Monk is probably a bit better but even then I still don't really like them.

>> No.42528537

>>42528420
Just looked up Sacred Fist. Looks interesting, but we've already got a cleric in our crew. It wouldn't be terrible to have some extra holy rollers around, but I'm not sure if the player would do very well with a character with spell casting

>> No.42528571

>>42527451
I think, though don't quote me on this, that one might be Kieran Yanner?

>> No.42528578

>>42528494
Monk has been the red-headed stepchild of martials since 3.0, and that's saying something. If you want an effective unarmed character focused on Manoeuvres, Brawler is where it's at. Monk just can't really compete, even Unchained.

>> No.42528606

>>42528537
Hate to break it to you, but if you're not a spellcaster or an initiator, you're going to have a bad time in Pathfinder. Brawler is better, but even the 4/9 casters are superior, though I would never go less than 6/9.

Maybe an unarmed focused Magus?

>> No.42528659

>>42528606
>Hate to break it to you, but if you're not a spellcaster or an initiator, you're going to have a bad time in Pathfinder. Brawler is better, but even the 4/9 casters are superior, though I would never go less than 6/9.

Why are you saying this when many (if not most) campaigns people will join aren't so brutal and unforgiving that you need to be a caster to survive.

There is literally nothing wrong with the monk if he's playing anything less than a hostile DM, Tomb of Horrors style fuckfest.

>> No.42528727

>>42528659
I'm talking from a versatility/being overshadowed by others perspective, not survival. Initiators are typically worse at DPR than an archer fighter. Same with 6/9 casters.

>> No.42528743

>>42528659

Because monks can't even do their job proficiently. The question of being overshadowed by optimization is almost a foregone conclusion when all it takes for a paladin to be "optimized" is to take power attack at level 1.

>> No.42528762

>>42528659
Monks are fine if you play with rolled stats and got at least 3-4 numbers 14 or higher. Preferably much higher.

Otherwise, they're ass. Even in the most gentle of pathfinder games, they're bad at dealing damage, they're bad at taking damage, they don't get very many skills, and their abilities barely work right together.

That being said Unchained monk is all right, and actually does what the class claims to do (Be a front-line fast skirmishing fighter with some special abilities). If a group starts to get any kind of optimization going, or starts to want to play the game a bit more hardball, well, I hope you can roll stats like a pro.

>> No.42528936

>>42528659
>Tomb of Horrors style fuckfest
>not Tomb of Whores style fuckfest

>> No.42528974

>>42528936
I guess all those ranks in Profession: Courtesan and Craft: Pleasure are finally gonna pay off.

And your mother said there was no future in being a fucksmith.

>> No.42528981

>>42528936
>Tomb of Whores style fuckfest
>not Tournament of Rapists style fuckfest

>> No.42528983

>>42528936

>Tomb of Waifus
>All the waifus an adventuring quest could ask for
>95% of them are traps.
>Not in the fun way, either.

>> No.42529031

>>42528983
It's a tomb.
Is the trap that they are dead?

>> No.42529061

>>42528983
>each of the traps more elaborate than the last
>an explosive waifu activated with a wedding ring

>> No.42529137

>>42529061
That's just mean-spirited. I like it.

>> No.42529142

First time playing Pathfinder/being in the Golarion setting. Was planning on making a Lawful Neutral battle cleric of Iomedae, just need some help on the roleplay aspect.

How would I justify a Lawful Neutral cleric of a goddess that's basically a deity of paladins? Emphasize justice/punishing evildoers?

>> No.42529163

>>42528743
Unchained monks fix most of that don't they?

>> No.42529188

>>42528983
A Tomb of Waifus is basically Dracula's Castle from Symphony of the Night or some of the other Castlevania games... If you've got a thing for pixelated monster girls, at least.

>> No.42529206

>>42529061

You aren't an antipaladin that used to worship Erastil, are you?

>> No.42529221

>>42529188
Whoops, forgot my pic.

>> No.42529240

>>42529142
Iomedae's actually a real jerk of an asshole. Do as you will.

>> No.42529269

>>42529142
No, emphasize true Iomedaean behavior.
Rembember you aren't just in it for justice, but you are also in it because YOU KNOW BEST. Anything you do is right because Iomedae is right and you know what Iomedae wants more than the average person.

In your mind literally everything you do should always be right and just. Not necessarily good, but definitely right and just. When someone else comes up with an idea, tell them to fuck off and stick to your plan instead. When someone answers a question in a way you don't like, they are lieing. When someone does evil, you kill them. Straight up.

>> No.42529278

>>42529240
You mind elaborating on that a little? I'm just going off of what I'm reading in the core handbook here.

>> No.42529302

>>42529221

>Run across a werebat girl in Order of Ecclesia
>"Let's play, cute little kitty~"

I felt almost bad about killing them. They just wanted to fuck Shanoa, and I can sympathize.

>> No.42529321

>>42529278
Since one of the head dicks at Paizo is utterly obsessed with CG, and Iomedae is the top deity of LG, he has decided to write her into being a ridiculous asshole. In Wrath of the Righteous you as a party meet her and she treats you like shit (20d6 of sonic shit) if you don't say exactly what she wants to hear. And she stopped being cute.

>> No.42529332

>>42529278
From what we've seen of Iomedae, she's a petty, vindictive, impulsive person.

>> No.42529338

>>42529302
How would you create Shanoa in Pathfinder anyway? Gifted Blade Soulknife, Mageknight, what are we looking at here?

For that matter, what about the rest of the Belmont clan? I'm thinking Paladin that has somehow made the Whip a good weapon to use.

>> No.42529344

You know, I rolled a human Paladin of Shelyn in a Pathfinder game and had fun playing him, but I'm not sure what kind of Human he was

What does this guy look like to you, /tg/?

>> No.42529352

>>42529302
Oh hey! I've seen her before.

>> No.42529362

Is there a viable method to use siege weapons like Ballistas and Cannons in a game?

I was considering Siege Mage with an "intelligent" cannon.

Or maybe a construct rider with a mammoth with a cannon strapped on its back.

>> No.42529365

>>42529269
>tfw the rest of my party is planning to be a bunch of CGs

This is going to end in fucking tragedy. I'm ready. Thanks for the help.

>>42529321
>>42529332
Good to know. Sounds retarded for a LG, but good to know.

>> No.42529366

>>42529321
That wasn't actually how it went down. The original writeup was like 1d6 nonlethal damage that is fully healed at the end of the encounter. It was meant to be fluff that would make the encounter a little more exciting.

Then James Jacobs decided FULL LETHAL 20d6 DAMAGE. ITS A HIGH LEVEL ENCOUNTER RIGHT? GOTTA HAVE HIGH LEVEL DAAANGEEEERRRRR

>> No.42529370

>>42529338
I'd just write up his whip as having better stats and not requiring multiple feats to consider functioning.

>> No.42529377

>>42529321

At least you get to slap her followers around a bit in Hell's Vengeance.

I'm still in love with how Book 1 of that AP has you as angry angry evil villagers, you are the village asshole that went out and made something of themselves by being an even bigger asshole to ever greater people.

>>42529344
>What does this guy look like to you, /tg/?

He looks like something a Fujoshi would schlick herself to.

>> No.42529380

>>42529338
War Soul Psychic Armory gestalted with a Binder-like, probably Radiance House's Occultist.

>> No.42529392

>>42529344
Taldan?

>> No.42529415

>>42529365
Remember. Iomedae is from Cheliax. Bitch was already more lawful than she was good, you merely emphasize the truth of Iomedae's word.

The only true law is the law of justice AND YOU ARE JUSTICE INCARNATE. Which also means when the rest of the party decides to break into somewhere or do something chaotic you can go along with it, because the only true law is the law of Iomedae. Make sure to take charge of the plan and be the leader even if you didn't originally come up with the plan.

>> No.42529454

>>42529338

First party, your best, crappy hope is the Mind Blade Magus.

I assume 3rd party has more options because 3rd party gets all the INVENTIVE stuff.

>> No.42529455

>>42529278
I heard the encounter in WotW gets kind of exaggerated, but that it's still pretty questionable from a design perspective. Basically, Iomedae is the Paladin. She Smites Evil. She's 900, and has been a goddess for 100, so she's still very strongly human in her perspectives, and probably won't ever stop being so. There's some irony in that she also associates with questionable groups - I think she's on decent terms with Asmodeus, the Devil - but she's very hard up on what she does, and she expects you to do the same, but if what you do isn't what she does, there will be some conflict, because she'll still hold to her beliefs.

>> No.42529456

>>42529377
He's a Paladin of Shelyn

If he doesn't inspire a little hands-on appreciation he's not doing his job.

>> No.42529483

Sup /tg/ I'm new with psionics but I wanted to try rolling a soulknife.

Is there any tips on how to make a character better at using psionic focus?
Spending a move action every turn to become psionically focused hurts a class that requires to get in close to attack an enemy.

>> No.42529488

>>42529454
What kind of 3rd-party stuff would fit her well? Assume that the balanced stuff is on the table and the crappy 3PP isn't.

>> No.42529489

>>42529415
I know this is just standard meme-ing about how Iomedae's the worst ever, but honestly, it makes sense that she'd lean LN. That's what Aroden was, for all that Paizo tries and fails to hype him as the ultimate hero god wizard 10/10 all time. Aroden didn't give a shit about good or evil, just that his chosen peoples would put together a new empire to replace the one Aroden's ancestors blew the fuck up. No different from an Italian fascist wanting to rebuild the Roman empire.

>> No.42529505

>>42529338
Depends on which Belmont, really. A good swathe of them would just be Fighters. Fighters armed with a number of magic artefacts, and with a special vampire-killing capital-letter Artefact, but Fighters nonetheless.

A number of them would probably break away from that though.

>> No.42529544

So I'm trying to think of how to make a character with a prosthetic limb, and I can't seem find anything in the 3.5 book on prosthetic limbs or customizing them. Are there any books which have prosthetic limbs and the things you can do with them

>> No.42529578

>>42529544
The Technology Guide has cybernetic limbs, and you can implant weapons into them. Go nuts.

>> No.42529599

>>42529544
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/other-rules/variant-rules-3rd-party/4-winds-fantasy-gaming/The-Loss-of-a-Body-Part/Prosthetics

>> No.42529607

>>42529544
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/c-d/clockwork-arm

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/other-rules/variant-rules-3rd-party/4-winds-fantasy-gaming/The-Loss-of-a-Body-Part/Prosthetics

>> No.42529622

>>42529489
Its not meming, this is the official. Sarenrae is god of paladins, Iomedae is god of lawful stupid paladins. Its always been portrayed that way.

>> No.42529659

Gonna repost since I posted in the dead thread.

For a number of reasons, my DM allowed the range to have a sort of Eidolon as his animal companion. It cost him two feats (Animal Boon and made-up feat).

The animal starts as an Owlbear, but can be improved further with Evolution Points. The only way to acquire Evo Points is to buy them, since instead of mutating magically, it will be augmented through emerging technology.

We need some way to price it though. The DM suggested the same price as magic weapons (2000 for the first point, 6000 for the second, etc) but I think it gets absurdly expensive, pretty fast.

Any suggestions?

>> No.42529661

>make character
>write in their backstory their arm is cybernetic
>???
>profit

Why does it need to be more complicated than that?

>> No.42529663

>>42529544
Magical Marketplace has a clockwork prosthetic limb.

>>42529505
Most of the Belmonts are probably that undead-hunting slayer archetype with the lady's spiral whip.

>> No.42529729

>>42529483
Quick Runner's Shirt and its only worth 1k

Alternatively, suck your DM's dick for this 3p feat

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/3rd-party-feats/rogue-genius-games/general-feats/physical-adept

>> No.42529749

>>42529578
I can't seem to find anything on the technology guide with a quick google search, do you have a link?
>>42529607
>>42529599
Thanks guys, I'll be sure to check up on those
>>42529663
Magical marketplace, is that the same stuff the people above linked?

>> No.42529773

>>42529749
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/cybertech

>> No.42529782

>>42529661
Because there are actual rules, benefits and penalties associated with a prosthesis.

What if it has a strength score of +7?
What if the enemy sundered your arm?
What if you punch a fae with it since its made out of cold iron?
etc etc

>> No.42529858

>>42529729
If you can use D&D material, there's also Heroic Surge. It's from the Dragonlance Age of Mortals book, page 50 - the last first party Dragonlance book. It gives you an extra standard or attack action 1/day with an additional one every four levels, and you don't have to give up spellcasting for it.

>> No.42529877

>>42529858
>extra standard or attack action
Err, extra move or attack action. That was a very wishful typo, but it's still nice.

>> No.42529983

>>42529782

What if somebody sundered your biological arm?

>> No.42530046

>>42529983
Clearly that's how he got the cybernetic arm.

>> No.42530047

Whatever happened to those high level spells that would summon like swords of pure nothingness and shit? Those were cool for when you had a martial hero actually get into melee against a Wizard BBEG, because the BBEGs tended to have racial hit dice that gave them an okay BAB so they could actually have a heroic and dramatic battle.

>> No.42530130

>>42530047

Make one up

In fact don't even stat the wizard, just make up a spell that summons some cool thing, stat that, and have the wizard die when it is defeated

>> No.42530133

>>42529782

If you give yourself a robotic arm and jammed a good piece of shrapnel in your head, would you gain the Outsider template and become a demon?

>> No.42530139

>>42530047
>swords are heroic
Please, heroism in pathfinder is being a CG Arcanist.

>> No.42530168

>>42530133
4 damnation feats make you an outsider via fiend skin.

>> No.42530176

>>42530133

>> No.42530217

>>42530133
Could you Mantle a fictional character, theoretically? I know that's the wrong setting, but I'm really spotty on TES.

>> No.42530229

>>42530139
What? No. The point of a heroic battle is that the two are fighting in a similar way. Two melee warriors against each other is a far better battle story wise than caster versus melee, caster versus archer etc. Same against Same, skill against skill, THATS a heroic battle.

Heroism in general is overrated, i only care about heroic battles.

>> No.42530233

Kitsune fighter with 9 tails, VMC, Eldritch Heritage, and Damnation feats

Can we do it, /pfg/?

>> No.42530248

>>42530233
I mean. You just did it. There's nothing else to do. What are you asking of us?

>> No.42530252

>>42530168
>>42530176
>>42530217

But how do you NUCLEAR?

>> No.42530275

>>42530229
That's not heroic battle in pathfinder. Pathfinder heroic battles are casting spells.

>> No.42530283

>>42530248

If it's possible

>> No.42530289

>>42530139
I thought Heroism in Pathfinder was a +2 bonus on attack rolls, saves, and skill checks?

>> No.42530297

>>42530275
>same against same, skill against skill
>casting spells
That doesn't contradict what he just said. You can have two mages, with counterspells and abjurations and teleports flying all over the place, Contingencies firing off.

>> No.42530314

>>42530297

>tfw mythic wizard goes up against a mythic arcane duelist

>> No.42530357

>>42530283
Yes. Easily. Take the Nine-Tailed Scion race trait. (see >>42526419) You can now have 9 tails by level 8, leaving you 12 levels of feats and bonus feats to do with whatever you please.

>> No.42530360

>>42530297
Exactly. A test of arcane might is as valid as any other, but becomes just as stupid if its subjected to fighting a martial.

Caster versus Archer is literally "oh his readied action shot me when i cast, do i lose the spell?" and he wins or loses based on that, Caster versus Melee is just "does he get next to me to sunder my component pouch/Pin/AoOs/Whatever". Archer vs Melee is similar.

Fights just aren't the same when you have two fighters who aren't fighting in the same realm of tactics. The summoning wizard against the sneaky rogue isn't a fight, its a perception check.

>> No.42530403

>>42525632

On the flip side, you can be dominated person'd. That's honestly the worst racial trait in the game.

>> No.42530442

>>42530357

Why would you want to have nine tails when they aren't that useful?

>> No.42530478

>>42530442
It gives you 8 SLAs usable twice a day, which includes stuff like Dominate Person and Invisibility.

>> No.42530486

>>42530233
Dunno about that, but now I'm abandoning my fighter/rogue kitsune for Fighter 4/Sorceror 1/Dragon Disciple X.
FUCK LOGICAL BUILDS! I AM THE DRAGON WITH NINE TAILS.

>> No.42530494

>>42530442

>dominate person at level 5
>not useful

>> No.42530495

>>42530442

Fluffy tail.

>> No.42530509

>>42530357
Between a VMC, Eldritch Heritage, and all four Damnation feats, you'd need 13 feats. So, it looks like you'd actually come up one feat short.

>> No.42530524

>theorycrafting an aberrant aegis
>going max natural attacks plus two-weapon fighting with hardened strikes, and increased damage and powerful build so my damage per hit isn't absolute ass
>have no idea where to go from here

I can't decide which is more thematically appropriate for this guy; maxing natural armor and DR and being fucking invincible, or maxing chameleon and taking climb and reach to strike from the shadows. Or hell, maybe something else I'm missing.

Also, with this many freaking attacks, I really wish I had sneak attack, or something similar. Is there any way to pick up extra damage dice besides multiclassing/an amulet of mighty fists?

>> No.42530531

>>42530509
You could pull with one tier of Mythic. Mythic Eldritch Heritage only requires base Eldritch Heritage, skips over Improved and Greater, and is a mythic feat besides. Also gives you the full bloodline powers, rather than specific ones.

>> No.42530557

>>42530524
I think being the monster on the walls is a brilliant plan, but won't be viable for every encounter.
Find a happy medium.

>> No.42530581

>>42530509
Also, what are these damnation feats and where can I find them?

>> No.42530582

>>42530524
Hammer the gap?

>> No.42530593

>>42530581
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/damnation-feats

>> No.42530601

>>42530557
Well Climb is only 2 points. Reach is 3 points, but pretty useful all the time, and Chameleon is 2 points per +4 to stealth, so it's pretty viable. With 4 tentacles, I'd also have a +10 bonus on grapple checks (+2 per tentacle after the first, +4 for having the Grab special ability as per the universal monster rules); alongside powerful build for effective large size and a shitload of strength, I could grab people and yank them into the air. Now if only I had constrict.

>> No.42530631

>>42530601
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/a-b/belt-anaconda-s-coils

>> No.42530683

>>42530509
Hm... some VMCs give you bonus feats (sorcerer and wizard, offhand..). Use one of those for one of your tails?

>> No.42530684

>>42530631
The +2 to strength is wasted on this guy, but the rest looks beautiful. Thanks.

>> No.42530841

>>42529362
Pack of skeleton dogs with cannons in their rib cages sounds fun

>> No.42530912

Does anybody have the most recent Harbinger? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HCtvRArIRPjcClMf5KVJrDBrkV_gBoaVFuvwA4CmCew/edit is the most recent I can find.

>> No.42530942

>>42530912
The most recent harbinger is for sale. DSP purposefully does not update their playtest docs to the release version.

>> No.42530959

Anvil of the skyseeker is a shrunk mithral anvil costing 6700gp.

At full size, it's 200lbs of mithral.

It's worth 100,000gp in scrap.

Paizo are retards, they've made an item that costs less than its scrap value.

>> No.42530986

>>42530684
Holy shit, I might have to do this. Lets do some math:

We're maxing strength on this fucker, so you get a +6 from Transformed Body by level 10-ish. We're also full BAB, and we're obviously taking Dirty Fighting rather than other prerequisites.

Due to the text of Dirty Fighting, we qualify for the Kraken Style feats. We'll be taking the first 2 (Kraken Style and Kraken Throttle), since Throttle lets us choke an opponent (thereby denying them the ability to call for help and cast non-silent spells). Lets also grab Improved and Greater grapple, and what the hell lets also get Rapid Grappler. Deadly Grapple is a luxury, if we can afford it.

As an Aberrant, we'll be picking up Powerful Build (count as large size when it's beneficial, such as CMB checks), 4 tentacles (the first grants us the Grab special ability, the other 3 give us a stacking +2 on grapple checks, total +10), and later on maybe Increased Size (giving us effective Huge size, or even Gargantuan later on, but with a penalty on stealth). We'll also grab Climb (climb speed equal to half your land speed), reach (improves reach by 5'), and Chameleon at every rank it's available (+4 to stealth per rank, available at levels 5, 10, 15, and 20).

So we can climb on the walls and ceiling with a pretty massive stealth bonus, get above the enemy wizard/other caster, reach down at least 10', yank that fucker up by the neck, and grapple him with a minimum +21 (+10 from tentacles, +4 from improved/greater grapple, +2 from Kraken style, +1 or more from size, +4 from Dirty Fighting cause he was flat-footed) to our CMB (not counting strength and BAB). We can choke the motherfucker while we maintain the grapple, so he can't call for help or cast spells, plus suffocation. If we have Rapid Grappler, we can also make another grapple check to damage/move/pin the fucker as a swift action (at a -5 but with our bonuses who really gives a fuck).

>> No.42530988

When is it okay to deceive the party?

>> No.42531001

>>42530959
Is it actually a shrunk anvil, or a small anvil that temporarily gets bigger?

>> No.42531012

>>42530986
The Anaconda's Coils belt from >>42530631 lets us constrict with both of these checks for 1d6+Strength (which will be pretty massive). On top of this, you've only spent about half of your customization points (19 without actual Improved Size) so you can become reasonably tanky or damaging on top of it.

I like this. A lot.

>> No.42531023

>>42531001
Shrink Item is a prereq, so it's probably shrunk.

>> No.42531043

>>42530942
>buying books of anything

>> No.42531054

>>42531001
Required spells: SHRINK ITEM.

>> No.42531064

>>42531054
Oh boy!

>> No.42531153

>>42530912
Do you have a place you can be reached at, like myth-weavers or giantitp?

>>42531043
I know they do it for the love of the hobby, but just because copies can be found on the internet does not mean they don't deserve compensation for going to the effort of making the stuff all nice-like.

>> No.42531254

>>42525286
Why would you ever take a +1 vs things in the process of casting when you could just take a +1 to all AoOs instead?

>> No.42531262

>>42531043
Believe it or not, if the product doesn't sell then the company will discontinue the product line. Barbaric, right?

>> No.42531275

What happens when you cast slow on a PC's boots of speed?

Does it cancel each other out or does it temporarily renders his boots useless?

>> No.42531282

You know, you'd think they'd've taken this chance, publishing a Big Book of Races, to fix their fuckup of "all the geniekin die immediately upon character creation because they now have human age categories but they still have elf-like starting ages" by publishing new starting ages for the Geniekin and Dhampir. Nope. No such tables.

>> No.42531335

>>42531282
I'd agree to this. Maybe even introduce new playable races as well.

I've always wanted to play a Doppelganger or an actual semi-incorporeal race.

>> No.42531418

>>42525308
>Half-Orc: Orc Avatism
>Human: Awareness
>Human: Comprehensive Knowledge

WWWHHHHHOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

HOLY FFFFFFFFFUCK

>> No.42531428

>>42526715
What
No
You fucking idiot.

Kobolds GIVE NO FUCKS about sex, gender or any of that shit, so they wouldn't go all edgelord and transfutasbian on it either.

As far as kobolds are concerned, when cloacas get involved, one of the two's the one that lays eggs afterwards. Everyone raises the young together, and nobody gives a fuck. There wasn't eggs, now there's eggs, and that's all there is to it.

A kobold is a kobold is a kobold. They have nothing to "SJW" about.

>> No.42531458

>>42525404
>Tiefling: Light from Darkness

awwww yeaaaaa

>> No.42531466

>>42527184

>> No.42531498

>>42530912
>>42530942
>>42531153
>>42531262
I was just shitposting when I said that. I just bought the thing on account of it not being Paizo.

>> No.42531525

>>42525404
Undines -- Triton Magic

Doesn't have a per day limit.

Infinite dolphins.

Combine with Minor Wishcraft for infinite cantrips.

>> No.42531535

I want Dragon Ferocity but i don't want Stunning Fist or to take levels in monk.
What do?

>> No.42531541

>>42531498
I feel so loved. Lemme know how it works out for ya.

>> No.42531560

>>42525404
PLS GIVE WAYANG PAGES

>> No.42531577

>>42531560
The Wayang have like two paragraphs in the Other Races section. For optimal effect, look at this >>42527249 picture while you read.
>WAYANGS

>The diminutive wayangs were originally natives of the mysterious Plane of Shadow who slipped through the boundaries between Golarion and their home during the Age of Darkness. With the sun returned, these trespassers find the world in which they are now trapped fiercely inhospitable. Wayangs are short and lean, and while they are similar in stature to gnomes, none would ever confuse the two races. Wayangs’ skin is dark, ranging from twilight plum to dark gray or depthless black in color. Their eyes are yellow or white, and their hair is stringy and seems to slither with shadows. A wayang’s features are sharp, with a long nose, pointed ears, and slender, tapering fingers. Many adorn themselves with ritual scarification and tattoos from a very young age.

>Wayangs prefer to avoid contact with other creatures, and they tend to view wild predators and civilized humanoids alike as coconspirators arrayed against them to exploit, torment, and kill their kind. They gather in small, tightly knit tribes and prefer to share a communal existence, recognizing an entire tribe as family rather than focusing specifically on blood relations, and relying upon friends and neighbors for support as needed. They prefer the shadows of dusk or the glories of deep midnight to the searing light of the day, and while as a people they are no more predisposed toward evil than they are toward good, their preference for all things nocturnal has only enhanced other races’ beliefs that the wayangs are, at their core, a sinister people not to be trusted.

>> No.42531595

>>42531577
Yes, I know that picture looks nothing like a Wayang. It's on the same page as the Wayang and the Tengu, and it's clearly not a Tengu.

If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say it might be a Samsaran, which is from the page before.

>> No.42531597

>>42531577
so like

nothing

i'm crying man

no art or anything?

>> No.42531603

>>42525308
>Orc Atavism
Effectively take a -2 to Charisma for no benefit to any other ability score
>Literally trades a +2 to Intimidate and a 1-round Diehard for an effective Diehard feat.

>> No.42531621

>>42531597
This is the only art for them, from the back of the book.

I know how you feel.

I'm dying for a fucking sylph.

>> No.42531771

>>42531541
Are there plans to update the PoW pdf on DriveThruRPG? It's out of date and doesn't match the print copy of the book.

>> No.42531784

>>42531771
Lemme see what can be done. Bossman's gonna need to investigate.

>> No.42531802

>>42525565
>Miasmal Dread
Literally inferior Blistering Invective, why is it even on the inquisitor's or bard's spell list?
>Armor of Grim Triumph
Up to +4 competence bonus on Intimidate checks for an effective price of 10k gold? Oh, what was the price of a slotless minor Shadow Piercings again?
>Scalerazor
Neat effect.
>Battle Standard
Alright guys, FOR THE WARSONG CLAN!
>Binding Contract
Fucking finally
>Commander's Helm
neat
>Standard of the Celestial Heir
Fuck off aasimars, why copy orcs.
>True Warrior's Blade
Limited effects but sweet nonetheless.

>> No.42531818

>>42531784
Hey gareth
considering you work at DSP, what kinds of feats do you recommend on a zwei sentinel? I've heard feats involving armiger mark but I wanted a second opinion

>> No.42531822

Have they fixed medium yet?

>> No.42531834

>>42531822
Occult Origins isn't out is it?
>>42531535
Pls halp. Am i forced to endure an unchained monk dip for stunning fist?

>> No.42531848

>>42531818
I have no idea how often I can say "You're asking the wrong guy," when it comes to builds. I do not retain details well. I build characters on the spot with the goal being, invariably, "spend as little time doing this shit as possible". As far as I know Zwei is nearly impossible to screw up. I know I personally would probably end up trying to emphasize strikes or else nab better marks, but, again, I have /no idea/.

I play classes where I don't /have/ to optimize, precisely so I can instinctively pick whatever seems to look good and doesn't violate subconsciously memorized guidelines. Elric's the guy you want for hard mechanical help and the reasons behind suggestions. I understand the game. He can /teach it/.

>> No.42531901

>>42531818
Powerful mark is good all around. Now tell me what do you want to be: Intimidate machine? Dex Zweihander? AoO beast? Or a brutal TWFer?

>> No.42531920

>>42531818
Not Gareth, but I believe you qualify for Scarlet Throne Style, which would let you wield a weapon in one hand and count it as two handed for damn near everything. I don't know if this does anything for you (I suppose you could use that level 1 Scarlet Throne stance for even more AC?), but it's interesting. I suppose you could use it with a piercing weapon to combine Zwei Sentinel and Duelist abilities, but I don't think that's useful in any way. I'm sure there's some way to abuse this though.

>> No.42531928

>>42531834
NOT YET BRO BUT TRUST ME I'LL LET YOU KNOW.

I DO HAVE.. THIS.

THAT'S RIGHT FUCKERS QANON IS BACK WITH A BOOK THAT, I DON'T KNOW, SOME OF YOU MIGHT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT?

>> No.42531930

>>42531822
They cut out the requirement to actually find applicable places by saying you can make them wherever you want, but that wasn't in a book, or even in errata, but in the FAQ.

>> No.42531939

>>42531928
Jammin.

Am I gonna hafta convert another archetype to Spheres for ya? Cuz I will.

>> No.42531967

BEHOLD A TABLE OF CONTENTS. IT'S NOT VERY USEFUL ACTUALLY, LET ME RIP THE _OTHER_ TABLE OF CONTENTS.

>>42531939
AHAHA SHIT SON YOU DON'T GOTTA DO ME NO FAVOURS I'VE ALREADY GOT THE MOST EXCELLENT GIFT A PARROT CAN GIVE ME. I'LL KEEP YOU IN MIND IF I NEED SOME BREWING DONE, YOU'RE MY MAN NOW.

>> No.42531974

>>42531818
Bah. Answer your true calling, anon.

Be a two-weapon fighting, Broken Blade stance, Medusa's Wrath, Pummeling Style Steelfist Commando. Amaze and horrify your GM with 9 attacks at 11th level. It's fun!

>> No.42531979

>>42531967
ALRIGHT HERE WE GO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKIN AT.

SHIT, I HAVEN'T EVEN READ THIS BOOK. FRESH OFF THE PRESS, BOYS AND GIRLS. LET'S EXPLORE TOGETHER.

>> No.42531980

>>42531928
This can only turn into Les Miserables.

Though this being paizo, the Les stands for lesbians.

so it becomes 'the miserable lesbians'

>> No.42531986

>>42531979
Eldritch Archer please.

>> No.42531987

>>42531848
whoosp, my bad

>>42531901
>>42531920
>>42531974
Aiming to wreck shit with my zweihander basically. I mean I don't know what the group's gonna need; I'm the only one in a group of 3 that really has any idea what they're doing, but I guess I'd want to tank, give some party buffs and rip people asunder. Though I doubt I can get all of that. Also, I've given up primal fury for black seraph

>> No.42531988

>>42531967
Rock on, my wonderful, shouty friend.

>> No.42531997

SINCE WE ON A LONG-ASS RACIAL KICK TODAY, LET'S START WITH THIS.

ELVES CAN CHOOSE NOT TO FUCK UP BUILDINGS WITH THEY MAGIC? EXCELLENT.

>> No.42532008

>>42531986
OH SHIT HOW DID THAT GET PAST MY PEEP SPHERES? DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG I'VE WANTED A PROPER ARCANE ARCHER? LET'S SEE HOW THIS MEASURES UP.

NOW WITH BONUS FIGHTER ARCHETYPE! CRUSH THOSE FUCKERS UNDERFOOT.

>> No.42532012

>>42531987
Black Seraph? Intimidate tank it is
Take a LN Ordained Defender, Reformation Inquisition, with Eternal Guardian as your bonus discipline. Reformation Inquisition will basically give you a number of daily rerolls on Intimidate checks, which will basically be your safeguard for whenever you fail your Fear the Reaper checks (Not that you should, it's really easy to get Intimidate to surge sky-high).
Take the Black Seraph Style line, Powerful Mark, Mighty Frame from Bloodforge, Discipline Focus: Black Seraph. Also, wield a Bardiche or a Nodachi, either is good.

>> No.42532031

>>42532008
Mmm, that's a tasty-looking Fighter Arch.

>> No.42532034

>>42532012
Might be a problem, forgot to mention I'm already level 2 and I don't really want to get into any of the traditions if I don't need to. Where in the PoW/srd could I find that stuff? The search thing isn't helping

>> No.42532049

DID SOMEBODY SAY "CLOCK OF INFINITE DAGGERS"? NO, THEY SAID CLOAK, GET THE SOOT OUT OF YOUR EARS.

GRAPPLING HOOK!

>> No.42532052

>>42531979
Siegebreaker!

>> No.42532061

>>42532034
Oh, can't take Ordained Defender? No worries, iirc baseline Zweihander sentinel can take Eternal Guardian as a free bonus discipline too.
Fear the Reaper you can take at level 3 as a counter with no prereqs so you should be fine.
For the Path of War: Expanded stuff, check here:
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?423981-Dreamscarred-Press-Path-of-War-Expanded!-(Discussion-Thread-VI)

>> No.42532068

>>42532049
>Diminshing sash
Fabricate + Diminishing sash pays for itself if you craft the sash. With downtime...

>> No.42532074

>>42532061
Would I be able to just add that stuff on though? The campaign's already started. I was thinking more what should I spec into in future. I don't think the gm would appreciate me just adding things on in between sessions. That and he's inexperienced with path of war

>> No.42532075

>>42532049
How's the Rogue Archetype looking?

>> No.42532078

>>42532008
Oh wow, a decent arcane archer dealy? It looks good, but i'm not familiar enough with Magi to tell properly.

>> No.42532085

>>42532049
OH.

DAMN.

That Cloak of Daggers.

"If you already have Quick Draw, drawing a single hidden dagger is a free action"

UNDERHANDED JUST GOT A LOT MORE VIABLE, CHILDREN.

AND THAT CONE OF SNEAK-DAMAGE KNIVES IS PRETTY SWANK.

>> No.42532090

>>42532075
HOPE YOU LIKE BLINDFIGHT, MOTHERFUCKER. BE THE DROW, DROP THAT DARKNESS ALL NIGHT LONG.

WAIT.

DROP IT ALL DAY LONG

ALL NIGHT LONG WOULD BE STUPID

>> No.42532093

>>42532061
>>42532074
Also, I can't seem to find Ordained Defender anywhere

>> No.42532094

>>42531979
Constable sounds badass.

>> No.42532109

>>42532074
Ordained Defender is an archetype that goes off Wis rather than Int to boot, so I guess that one's off the line (Also, >>42532093 it's on the archetypes doc); but the rest is mostly new feats and maneuvers that you can start picking up when you reach level 3.

>> No.42532118

>>42532094
FREE TACTICIAN USES, ASSHOLES. REWARDS FOR CAREFUL THOUGHTFUL PLANNING. AND A MOTHERFUCKING BADGE. WHERE WE'RE GOING, WE NEED A BADGE.

>> No.42532121

>>42532090
>Eerie Disappearance
Damn, son!
>False Attacker
DAMN, son!
>Pierce the Darkness
HOT DAMN, son!

Just close your eyes, get 5-feet of blindsense!

Buskers also look pretty nifty!

>> No.42532122

>>42531979
Ooooh, urban hunter? I love hunters! What's that one do?

>> No.42532128

>>42532122
URBAN x3 COMBO INCOMING

I HAVE NO IDEA IF IT'S GOOD I HAVE NEVER PLAYED A HUNTER

IS IT JUST ME OR IS THAT BLOODRAGER A-FUCKING-DORABLE? PRETTY SURE IT'S A GIRL, BUT YOU KNOW, EITHER WAY, I WANT TO RUFFLE THAT HAIR AND KISS THOSE CHEEKS.

URBAN SKALD LOOKS FUUUUUN.

>> No.42532129

>>42532118
IS THAT AN ARCHETYPE PERFECT FOR PATRICIA MOTHERFUCKING WAGON I THINK IT IS.

APPREHEND THEM!

>> No.42532152

>>42532109
Unfortunately, zwei sentinel apparently doesn't let me take on additional disciplines, unless I'm reading wrong; it's why I took that trait to switch out primal fury with black seraph

>> No.42532161

>>42532128
Urban hunter is a not even, I think. If you want a caster Hunter, you lose basically nothing except choices for your animal companion (which, if you're a half-orc, you can completely sidestep by taking Beast Rider).

What you lose is the Teamwork feats, and let me tell ya, that hurts.

As long as you can get over those two problems? It's pretty solid. Nothing amazing, but solid. Now, if only they hadn't JUST released a book with a MASSIVE number of teamwork feats.

>> No.42532166

>>42532128
All the feats are in like the same two pages. Can you show us those?

>> No.42532167

>>42532090
Busker looks amusing as fuck

Not necessarily actually good, but amusing

>> No.42532170

>>42532152
Systems and use Expanded doc in the thread, it's there too.

>> No.42532173

>>42532161
>is a not even
Is about even, I mean. Fuck, I'm tired.

>> No.42532175

HAVE A PILE OF DOMAINS, COMPLETE WITH FREE QT. NOT SURE IF QT3.14, BUT QT2.9 AT VERY LEAST

MOTHERFUCKING CAPTCHA MAKING ME LIE AND TELL IT BAGELS ARE DONUTS. BAGELS WISH THEY WERE DONUTS, AND THAT IS A WISH I CANNOT GRANT (THANKS AGAIN PARROT)

THE SHIT I GO THROUGH FOR YOU GUYS

>> No.42532182

>>42532128
Urban Bloodrager looks awesome for a Blastrager.

>> No.42532188

>>42532166
THROAT SLICER
HELPING COLOUR SPRAY TRIVIALIZE ENCOUNTERS IN HALF THE TIME SINCE 2015

CUNNING CASTER, FOR THOSE SORCERERS LYING ABOUT BEING PRIESTS

EDGE RUNNER, PERFECT FOR EDGELORDS. GET IT? OF COURSE YOU DO.

>> No.42532206

>>42532170
Oh right, thanks

>> No.42532212

I'm going to play a cleric with the healing/fire domains and the Glorious Heat feat.

Is this a good idea?

>> No.42532214

>>42532175
>Riot Subdomain
Pretty fucking good for shutting down casters if you can get other concentration penalties in there.

If you have to take a concentration check from multiple sources, how does that work anyway? Could i use that psionic "Murmuring" armor to stack with this shit?

Plague Subdomain has an awesome effect because it can make a Disease useful in the same combat it was used in.
UNFORTUNATELY UNLIKE EVERY OTHER TOUCH DOMAIN POWER YOU BARELY GET ANY USES.
FUCK YOU PAIZO YOU FIXED DISEASE AND THEN UNFIXED IT IN THE SAME DOMAIN

Espionage seems pretty cool for some character concepts.

>> No.42532217

>>42532188
...

DAMN.

Throat Slicer, man!

>Grapple
>Pin
>Coup de Grace

You can even do that shit with your hands! Grapplers can start trying to instakill people once they've got them pinned!

>> No.42532244

>>42532008
Wait, is that Fighter Archetype just a remake of Dungeoncrasher from 3.5? I approve.

>> No.42532245

>>42532188

Throat slicer + dirty trick master = gg

>> No.42532246

>>42532217
>Charging Stag Style, Stag Horns and Stag Submission
>Charge, hit the target with an unarmed attack and score a free grapple
>Next round pin the target, either dealing damage or knocking the target prone
>Next round coup de grace
Hmm...
It seems smarter to just have a buddy come up and coup de grace the target during the second round when you pin. Unless theres some way i don't know of to pin the same round you initiate the grapple.

>> No.42532278

>>42532246
oh, I know!

Play a character with an animal companion with the Grab ability. Allosaurus has my vote, but a big cat works too. They pin, you shank.

>> No.42532279

>>42532246
Well if you grapple on a charge, you can use Greater Grapple on your next turn to maintain (and pin) as a move action, letting you use your standard for Coup de Grace.

I just statted out >>42530986. This is relevant to my interests.

Round 1: Grab target from ceiling, choking them so they can't let allies know.
Round 2: Slit throat, drop corpse with a wet thud. Make intimidate check.

>> No.42532288

>>42532279
>Use Eerie Disappearance
>Nobody knows where you went.

Eerie Disappearance is literally batman. That's what it is.

>> No.42532290

HEY FUCKER BUY SOME MAPS SO YOU DON'T GET YOUR ASS LOST AND DIE IN AN ALLEY SOMEWHERE.

>> No.42532303

>>42532290
That man is a "What the fuck am I reading?" reaction pic in the making if nothing else.

>> No.42532312

>>42532303
That's Alain.
They've done another picture where he looks fucked up. God damn it they always put the worst artists on Alain.

>> No.42532324

>>42532290
HEY.

That reminds me. The statue disguise kit.

I forgot to bring up how Buskers can BE those guys who paint themselves up as statues! I LOVE THOSE GUYS.

>> No.42532326

>>42532288
I can't find that on the SRD. Care to enlighten me?

>> No.42532332

>>42532326
It's in the stuff the shouty man is posting right now.

>>42532090
It's in this one. Rogue Talent. Eerie Disappearance. Be Batman.

>> No.42532361

>>42532332
Ooh, that's pretty nice. I don't think I can take it as an Aegis though.

Gestalt game tho? I'm on that like white on rice.

>> No.42532369

Who's that outsider?

>> No.42532389

>>42531997
> Half-Elf
> This racial trait replaces skilled

Quality Paizo work.

>> No.42532390

>>42527593
She looks like artist drew half-orc half-chingchong while trying to draw one of them. I'm not sure which one.

>> No.42532403 [DELETED] 

>>42532303
IN THE MAKING? FUCK YOU. IT'S MADE.

>> No.42532418

>>42532078
It's actually a lot better than the previous range Magus archetype.

>> No.42532422

>>42532403
>Right Click
>Save Image As

Most Excellent.

>> No.42532428

>>42532422
DELETE THAT SHIT I FUCKED UP THE TEXT CENTERING TAKE THIS INSTEAD.

>> No.42532438

>>42532418
This.
Myrmidarchs are shit because you're forced to trade away your spell level for a ranged spellstrike.

>> No.42532441

>>42532428
>Pictures
>Channing
>Right Click
>Delete
>Right Click
>Save Image As

DONE.

>> No.42532444

>>42532438
Ah, I thought we were talking on the Cardcaptor, I liked that one actually.

>> No.42532449

>>42532428
crop the lower body, you don't need a full body image for that macro.

>> No.42532458

>>42532449
JESUS YOU GUYS ARE HARD TO PLEASE

>> No.42532465

>>42532449
It works just fine, regardless.

>> No.42532466

>>42532458
WOW

OKAY I FUCKED THAT ONE UP IN THE BEST WAY ACTUALLY SO I'M JUST LEAVING IT LIKE THAT.

>> No.42532469

>>42532466
>>42532458
MAGNIFICENT

>> No.42532499

>>42532188
>>42532245
I don't know which one is better Bounty Hunter Slayer + Throat Slicer + Dirty Trick Master or Awesome Display Oracle + Throat Slicer + Color Spray.

>> No.42532516

>>42532438
Actually it look like they just copy paste everything good from Myrmidarchs for this new archetype.

>> No.42532527

>>42532499
Personally, I'd go for Hunter with Throat Slicer and an animal companion with pounce and pin.

>> No.42532543

ALRIGHT QANON IS G-ING THE F O, PARTING GIFT OF STREET SPELLS.

>> No.42532551

>>42532543
ANY FINAL REQUESTS FOR THE NIGHT? PAGES OF INNER SEA RACES OR HEROES OF THE TREETS? HASUBANDO/WAIFU ART RIPS? YOU'VE GOT 10 MINUTES BEFORE I'M ASLEEP.

>> No.42532556

>>42532527
Even with pounce + grab ability, wouldn't still needs to wait until next round to start pinning your opponent as part of your maintain?

>> No.42532567

>>42532551
Unless I'm missing it in one of the posted pages, can I get a gander at that Oracle Mystery?

>> No.42532574

>>42532551
>Coin Shot
This makes me happier than it has any right to.

>> No.42532578

I just realized the Eldricth Archer archetype practically prevents the magus from making a melee-weapon spellstrike (but not touch attacks)

This could actually pose a problem for some players with sadistic DMs.

Either way, whats a great low level spell for this archetype? I am actually considering spamming the level 0 cantrip like acid regularly for the tiny bonus damage at early levels when spells are a rare commodity.

>> No.42532579

>>42532567
GUESS I MISSED THAT MOFO GOOD CATCH

HERE YOU GO EAGLE EYES

>>42532574
INCORRECT ASSHOLE

IT MAKES YOU EXACTLY AS HAPPY AS IT SHOULD

RAILGUN THAT SHIT UP

>> No.42532586

>>42532369
Now I'm trying to write up one of my new campaign threats.
A devil that rescues children in danger or takes revenge for wronged children, in exchange marking their soul in such a way that they begin to exhibit infernal powers.

Essentially he goes around being a just and righteous protector of children, but when his charges reach adulthood they become infernal sorcerors or infernal bloodragers.

>> No.42532604

>>42532551
>>42532574
Coin Shot is on the anti-paladin list. Meaning its a great spell for the casual Anti-Paladin who's hiding his power whilst passing through a town.

Imagine walking past a beggar, holding out a coin and saying "here catch!" then driving it right into his stomach. It's quiet, ironic, cruel and most people won't be able to tell a slumped over beggar from a dead one until you are long gone.

>> No.42532611

>>42532579
Damn that's a nice Oracle Mystery.

And a Bonus Witch!

A Witch that doesn't actually have a Patron, no less!

>> No.42532612

>>42532604
..Is there a written list? I need access to this list.

For reasons.

>> No.42532615

>>42532579
Why is dwer (gotta check those pronouns) familiar covered in stone?
Isn't iconic Shaman's normal spirit something else, so it can't have a stone familiar and slums at the same time as its wandering spirit?

>> No.42532618

>>42532579
HEX TRADER

Oh my god

I could

Get a Witch cohort

To loan me the Prehensile Hair hex

I could be a BARBARIAN

Who PUNCHES PEOPLE

WIth his BEARD

>> No.42532619

>>42532612
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/spell-lists-and-domains/antipaladin-spell-list
I don't think this has any of the spells from the new books or from Occult Adventures.

>> No.42532622

>>42532574
>>42532579
>20ft range increment
God fucking damnit.

>> No.42532625

>>42532615
May just be a Witch with Improved Familiar?

>> No.42532631

>>42532579
>Doors to Everywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE7IRO-EhPk

>> No.42532638

>>42532579
>Knife in the Dark
>1/Day full Sneak Attack
You can attack out of a disguise to have targets count as flat footed right? Use Diguise Self from your mystery to up close to someone whilst appearing friendly, then sneak attack them for big damage.

Lets you do the tricksy assassinate stuff that a rogue does really well using your magic and its not like as an oracle you want to attack all the time so you don't really need the ability to do sneak attacks all the time, just when you want to do neat assassin crap.

>> No.42532641

>>42532618
Beat you to it.

I once rolled a prehensile hair witch who uses his neckbear to kill stuff.

There's no rule that says witches are females only.

>> No.42532647

>>42532625
No that is the Shaman. The mace somehwat gives dwer away.

>> No.42532651

>>42532638
You don't even have to do it from disguise. If they haven't acted in combat yet, they're flatfooted. Unless they've got a fancy ability to do otherwise.

>> No.42532656

>>42532641
I mean yeah, you could always do it as a witch, there's even an (admittedly shitty) archetype for it.

But Hex Trader means you can do it without any witch levels at ALL.

>> No.42532669

>>42532578
Can you explain what your problem is? It's a range archetype why do you want to use Melee weapon? You can't have sword on hand while you are using Bow anyway?

>> No.42532678

I can't be fucked going back through all those pages, did any of the new race content assist grappling?

>> No.42532684

>>42532638
This Oracle is practically a master assassin better than most rogues.

This particular oracle can easily scout out an entire city block and every nook and cranny of a castle using pigeons and rats as look out.
Then disguise himself as a guard before a King and then backstabbing him.

Then he can just disappear in the crowd because he can veil his location from divination as well as move through alleys and markets without being impeded.

>> No.42532703

>>42532669
Not really a "problem", I just noticed the lack of versatility of both the class and its archetype being unable to access both spellstrike and ranged spellstrike.

>> No.42532705

>>42532678
The new Throat Slicer feat lets you coup de grace people who are pinned. So you can grapple>pin>Coup de grace

>> No.42532706

>>42532578
Reach Frostbite. Although, since you can't hold range touch... You would have to recast it every round.

>> No.42532715

>>42532703
I do notice though, that it just says 'ranged weapon'

So you can pull that shit with bows, crossbows, throwing knives, or GUNS.

That sweet x4 crit multiplier and touch attacks, m8

>> No.42532731

>>42532715
If only guns didn't randomly explode sometimes.

>> No.42532756

Uh, new thread maybe? We're well into 10.

>> No.42532758

>gm wont let me take enlarge person on my mutagen alchemist because its OP

Is there any point trying to convince him or do i just deal with it?

>> No.42532769

>>42532756
Ahaha, we almost hit 500.

>>42532758
Disagree vehemently.

>> No.42532778

>>42532758
You knows your GM better than us anon. Some GM is pretty reasonably.

>> No.42532780

>>42532758
No because he is retarded. It's pretty much the whole gimmick of a mutagen alchemist and you have to take actions to drink your mutagen, drink your buff spells and then go into a fight whilst full bab classes can just run in and fuck people up whilst fighty 3/4 bab classes are either much stronger (cleric, druid) or can cast whilst fighting (warpriest, magus).

>> No.42532783

>>42532769
DON'T STOP
TO 500!

>> No.42532787

>>42532578
I'm actually tempted to spam Hydraulic Push, Snowball and Ray of Enfeeblement with the ranged spellstrike.

>> No.42532797

>>42532758
Sorry, but why choose enlarge mutagen when I distinctly recall there are better buffs you can take like turning into a furry beast with fucking pounce?

>> No.42532798

>>42532678
Death Roll? (Middle of page)

>> No.42532800

Is Inner Sea Races any good? Why's it good?

>> No.42532801

>>42532797
Enlarge person is an extract you can take at level one

>> No.42532813

>>42532800
Well a good deal of it's been posted in this thread and the last one. Go have a look.

>> No.42532818

>>42532800
It's mostly fluff, with about 30 pages of crunch at the back of a 250 page book. There's a lot of sweet art, and the racial lore is awesome. There's some excellent racial options splashed in here or there too, like the ability for geniekin to use their racial SLA to "grant wishes" by using a cantrip that somebody fishes for aloud, or Dhampir getting Command and Charm Person 1/day, or Half-Orcs becoming more awesome

>> No.42532823

>>42532800
It's good because Rat Paladin. Protect that squeak.

>> No.42532827

I'm running my game tomorrow after not being able to get my players time schedules to work out for 3 weeks. I'm pretty pumped.

>> No.42532829

Eldritch Archers = Ashe?

Seems like the best spells to build around are ray of frost and snowball

>> No.42532836

>>42532813
>>42532818
>>42532823
Is this the Paizo we need and deserve?

>> No.42532842

WE MADE IT TO 500, YOU GLORIOUS FUCKS.

>> No.42532846

>>42532579
>Once Per Day (Oracle Mystery)

>> No.42532850

>>42532836
Not quite.

There's still a moronic sentence about intersex kobolds being celebrated, becuase they often also have dragon features, but the celebration bit is easily ignorable, with the other bit only serving to help reinforce that kobolds mutate like gangbusters.

In other news, kobold food uses a lot of spices.

>> No.42532853

New thread:
>>42532841
>>42532841
>>42532841
>>42532841

>> No.42532877

>>42532551

Ears of the City seems insanely good for gathering information. Why is this a 1st-level spell available to nearly every spellcasting class?

>> No.42532916

>>42532877
Scroll fodder.

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