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>BBEG's plan is revealed to be summoning Good Time Punch God
>When the Good Time Punch God is summoned, any evil act will have the God show up and punch the evildoer in the face nonlethally with proportional power to the amount of evil the act would have done
>then the god reverses time so that the evil act is undone, and the only remains of it is the memory of the act in the evildoer's mind, as well as the pain of being punched in the face
>no evil act can be done now, because the Good Time Punch God will punch the evildoer in the face and stop it from happening
>the god, being omnipotent can't be counteracted
>acts that are done to stop a greater catastrophe might - MIGHT be allowed to happen

>BBEG can actually pull it off if your character steps aside or lends support
>the plan involves no evil actions

Does your character try to stop the BBEG?

>> No.40642081

>>40642046
I dunno, I'm not really interested in that campaign premise. You guys want to play Warhammer Quest tonight?

>> No.40642089

Anyone getting the feeling of deja-vu?

Eh, it's prolly nothing.

>> No.40642105

>>40642089
I have no idea what you're talking about, Anon.

>> No.40642119

>>40642089
Iͫ͛̏ ͣ̓́̆̂̂ḧ́̇̂ͭ̒aͮͯ̽v̈́̑ͣ̈́eͭ ̋n̉̄o͋̅͆͛ ́̈́̃̚iͩ͒̎ͪ͆͊ͭd̂ͨ̄ͧ̋̓͛eͧ̀a ͧ̏̆̌̚w̓̀̄̓̀h͛ͬ͆̓̉̌͗aͤͩͨͮ̑̓tͨͥͭͫ̽ͦͤ ͌ͥ͗yͤ̔̉̐̀ou̅ͣͩͨ̎̈́'̓̾̐ͪ͐ͥr͆ͮ͊̒ȅ̅̈́̋ t̔͒a͊ͬͥ̉̈́ͦ̈́l͋̀͛kǐͮn͊g ͣͨ̏̓͂̈a͐b͌ͤoutͨ̒̆͌̍͌̄,͑ A̅̋nͨ̾o̐̓̍n̓̿̿̒̐̍ͫ.̈̑́̃

>> No.40642137

>>40642089
I̮̻̖̜ͭ̏͆̃̆ ̼̲̩͉̺ͮ̇h̯͉̼͇̝̘̾̿͊ͥạ̼̥̤̭̣ͪ̈́̃͐ͬv͚͕͉͉̠̅e̙͐͐̏̋ ̟͌n͚̳ȍͬ̂ͦ ̍ͨ͋̚i̙̬̝͎ͪd͍̻̱̙̖̙͗̽̍͋̑e͈͖͈̣̝͓ͅa͉̪̣ͪ͑̆̏̇ ̲̫̯̖ͨͨͩw̫̼̥ͧ̌͂̀̇̐ḧ̰́̾̿ȧ̠̯̪̯̝͌͊ͤ͊̌̄t̥ͧͥͮͥ͌̍ ̥̱̪̗͓̓̀ͨÿ̼̙͇̳̯͈̥́͑o͎̥̰̻̱̪͉ͪ́ű̲͈̥̼͎̼̱ͣ̓'̈́ͤ̚̚r̬͇͓̻̘ͬͅȅ̬̜̘̼̱ͬ͛ ͉̀̾͂̓̂t̜̺̮̎ͪͫa̻̗̥͓͋l̞̞̩͖͍̹̈́̉ͬk̻̠̣ͮ͗̔̋̃̄i̬͍̞ͤ͑ͯ̊n̲g̹̹͂͛ͫ͌ ͋a̼͑̉͒̆b̻̖͇̞ͦ̏͛͌͊̊͒o̯͎̙̲̰̘̜͂͗̾̈́́ͮ̚u̱̮̙͂̓͌͆͌̇̌t̬̥͈̣͗̋̉̍ͮ,̦͙͎͔̰̯̬̌͑̇́͐ ͖̺͚͚̘̭͚A͕͖̪̳͇n͈̯̜̖̔ͬͦ̃̓ö̭̮͈́n͚̞̈́͆̌.̜͔̝̞͇̒̈́ͤ̀̈́ͭͅ

>> No.40642157

>>40642089
I̘ ̵̜̫̠̹̖̰̒͒̋͛̔̌ͣh͕̻̽̾͞ạ͚̓̊v̧̖͎̹̐͆̂͛̽͑e̶͙͉͕̘̲̪̾ͮ ͓ͧ̈͒ͬ̏̈n̟̜̳͕̯ͧ͊́̀ͩõ̟̆̿͆̚ ̩͕͍̣̠̏͂i̺̝̝̬̹͇͎͗̊̏̈̾d̊ͥͬ͊ͧ͘e̺͈̗̮͙͑ͯ̆̊̀̚ȃ̸̬̖̮ͭͬ̐ͅ ͫͭ̊̉̅̀w̸̳͗͒̀͊̀h͇̱ͤ̌̿ͨ̓̀a̓͑̾ͮ͢t̺̣͙͐͠ ̥̻̥͚ͭ́̿͌̈́y̻͙̮͔̳ͅóư̯̬̠̼̣̺͚̒'̤̦r̝̭͈e̬̣͉̻̖ ̶̜̩͕͎̒ͧ͑͋̈͛̚t̠̯̘͖̩́ͣͣ̃ͮa̸͇͇̬̼̹͌ͭ͆̌̐̽l͌̀͜k̝̳͈̠͈͉̐ͧ̎̊̚͝ͅḯ͍̣̮̘̓̽ͫ͡n̟̜̼̪̖̱͔ͭ̍ͯ̐͒ͬg̶̻̫͖͈̳͈̘͌͆͆͗͗ ̶̪͐̉̈́ͧa̵̤̝̝̱ͨ̊̄̾͛ͅb͖̗̖̬̫͉̯̓oͫ̑͛u̲̳ͦ̇t̯̰̭̳̮͌ͧ̓̅̕,ͬ͗ͦͪ̀ ͕̩͇̰̇̍ͯ̄̔͛̽A͍̱ͪͤ͊̃n͊ͯ̂̈́̿͏̞o̍҉̻͕ņ̘̺͙̥͋.ͧ͏͉͚̬̟

>> No.40642175

>>40642089
Į͔̟̼ͯ̇ ̘̥͈͗͊̈͒̀͜͟h̴̵̟̻̙̜̖̝̹͕ͬ̔ͩa͆̅ͯ̿̾ͤ͒͆ͩ͘҉̯̦͖̪v̨̰̙̠̪̪͍̬͇̓̋̆͂ę̢̩̆̓̍̑̊̀́ ̲͖̜͖͍͈̳͋̔ͤ͐ͥ͢͟n̶̨̜̖͕̥̭̼̓́̄͆̑̏̍̎͠o̓͋̋̌͝͏̩̫͕͉͙̱͓̠ ̬̩̮̩̘̑̃͗ͦ͢į̝̪̻̱̔͌̅ͥ̐͡d̨̨̯̻͍̭̙̮̐̐̔͢ȩͦͬ҉͖͎̦ą̷͎̫͔͖̻̙̥̃̓̔͌͞ ͎͚̥̼ͪẁ̷̢̦̳̙̲̹̩̬̣͐̽̓̚ḫ̵͚̎̄̕aͭ̐̃͛̆̉͋͏̵̴̝̼̺͔͚̦̗ṫ̨̩̟͔̤̻͓͢͝ ̵̛͈͔̤̺̩̥̱ͮ̿̓ͯ̏̂y͍̳̬̣̞̫̜̟͍̅̋̃͘o̸̢̦̜̠̎̃͊ͣ͐ͣ͗ų̺͕̪̼̮͉̬̾͋ͪͪ̎̿ͮ̇̀́'̥̳͉͚̳͈̮̲͈ͤ̚͝r̴̶̛̮̦͈ͦͩ̋̉͗͆̓ͣe̺̮͕͍͙͔̩̩̿ͦ̐̓̍ ̧̣̻͈̗̖̝̂ͮ͆̾ͮ́t̖̩̘̟̑̅̆̍ͭͮa̶̵̟̖̯ͨ̊l̉̾͋̈́͌ͪ҉̩̺͜k̛͙̺͖̩ͨͩ͐͗̏i̳̪ͯͭ͊̓ͤ͊̈ͤ̏n͔̪̹͇̹ͤ̂͐̂̔́͘͜g̷̡̰̮͇̻̼̺̦̅͋ͨͣ̔̌ͯ̈́ ̷̩̠̱̙͚͐ͯ̏̔̽̓̓̊̚ã͉̹̇̽͗̉̓̃b͕̫̺͇͒ͫ̄͘ò̥̠̞̬̗͝ū̡͇̪̻͖̘̣̥̖͗ͮͫͭ̑ͤ͂̕tͫͬ͑̒̆ͮͥͨ҉̣̞̥̣̭͓̯̣,̵̩̭̳͌̽ͮ̃ͥ̋͠ ͈̯̤̠̜ͥ͑͟͝A͎̙͈͔̗̩ͥ͑̈́ͥ̒͊͛n̡̮̪̠̖͎͍̞ͯ͂̆̎͐̇̅o̘̜̳̙̦ͧ͊͐͑ͤ͂n̷̓͊̀̓̉̓̓҉̢̯͍͚.̙̯̪͚͔̯̭̰̑ͯ̐͗̄ͬͅ

>> No.40642183

Is there an echo in here?

>> No.40642189

>>40642046
Yes, for several reasons:
-He's a Big Bad Evil Guy.
-There's no proof that Good Time Punch God exists and/or can be summoned
-His plan is causing suffering regardless of whether or not the actions are evil
-You tried this bit yesterday, and it bores me.

>> No.40642205

>>40642183
I have no idea what you're talking about, Anon.

>> No.40642227

Is there an echo in here?

>> No.40642238

>>40642189
>There's no proof that Good Time Punch God exists and/or can be summoned
Then why stop him?

>His plan is causing suffering regardless of whether or not the actions are evil
How are you going to stop him? With violence that causes suffering? What is the difference between you and the punch-god?

>> No.40642241

>>40642227
I idea know have talking anon, what.

>> No.40642242

Anyone getting the feeling of deja-vu?

Eh, it's prolly nothing.

>> No.40642288

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxWN8AhNER0

>> No.40642298

>>40642046
>Yes, for several reasons:
>-He's a Big Bad Evil Guy.
>-There's no proof that Good Time Punch God exists and/or can be summoned
>-His plan is causing suffering regardless of whether or not the actions are evil
>-You tried this bit yesterday, and it bores me.

>> No.40642325

>>40642046
Of course he will try. Because if BBEG succeed, there will be no booze, no gambling, and no easy women. A shitty world to live on.
There also will be no free will and he takes it seriously, but he will never admit it. It makes him sounds noble, and he doesn't want to be know as such.

>> No.40642358

>>40642046
It removes free will. So no.

>> No.40642359

>>40642241
NO!

>> No.40642362

>> No.40642383

>>40642359
Anyone getting the feeling of deja-vu?
Anyone getting the feeling of deja-vu?
Anyone getting the feeling of deja-vu?
Anyone getting the feeling of deja-vu?

Eh, gnnthoi lylrop ts'i

>> No.40642412

>>40642046
So if the plan involves no evil actions, and does something good, why is this character classified as a BBEG? Does it stand for something other than "Big Bad Evil Guy"?

>> No.40642438

Hey, who turned off the lights?

>> No.40642451

>>40642438

I have no idea what you're talking about, Anon.

>> No.40642481

>>40642412
I have no idea what you're talking about, Anon.

>> No.40642577

Anyone getting the feeling of deja-vu?

Eh, it's prolly nothing
it's prolly nothing
prolly nothing
nothing
ing
g

>> No.40642607

>>40642577
Is there an echo in here?

>> No.40642745 [DELETED] 

Randomness have it uses.
If the campain starts like "there will be game of D&D in my custom setting, if you wanna play then read ~50 pages of setting information about mythology, gods and history events, send me a character backstory at least 2 pages long, tell me about some powerful figure that could recommend your character for a special job and come up with 3 flashback episodes about your character that we will roleplay at first set" then random stats will ruin the day.
If it more like "Alright, let go play some D&D at my place, I'm gonna DM. Make sure you bring some bear and snacks", then random rolls will go just right.

>> No.40642773

>>40642745
>bear and snacks
>bear
>who brought the bear in the house?
>the bear is eating our snacks
>someone call the police
>there's a bear in my house

>> No.40642787

>>40642773
Sry, wrong thread

>> No.40642821

>>40642773
>>40642787

I have no idea what you Anons are talking about.

>> No.40642865

>>40642821
I have a shitload of browser tabs and posted in a wrong thread. I'm sorry.

>> No.40643207

>>40642238
>Then why stop him?

Because the BBEG might be sick, and thus need healing.

>How are you going to stop him?

Talk to him, and persuade him that his vision is a result of his own maladies.

> What is the difference between you and the punch-god?

I am physical. The god is a metaphor.

>> No.40643330

Anon.>>40643207
>I am physical. The god is a metaphor.

I have no idea what you're talking about, Anon.

>> No.40643333

>>40643207
So you try to stop people who have an ideal of a world which they see as better, because they "might" be sick, when you have no proof either for or against such a method working?

>> No.40643360

>>40642046
That depends on the definition of evil. If it's Great-Wheel's scientifically measurable elemental force with a 9-box punnet square, then no, that would be horrible. Besides, in such a cosmology, it's supreme silliness to not assume that humans will eventually all become good if for no other reason than to measurably optimize their own afterlives, so you don't really need this guy. I've ranted about this before, but without the direct intervention of devils, demons, and evil gods, it's pretty illogical for a sane and rational being in the Great Wheel to ever willingly be evil.

If "Good Time Punch God" is capable of making contextual judgement calls based on compassion, empathy, and the particulars of the situation at hand... absolutely, that sounds nice.

>> No.40643367

Anyone getting the feeling of deja-vu?

Eh, it's prolly nothing.

>> No.40643546

>>40643360
> Besides, in such a cosmology, it's supreme silliness to not assume that humans will eventually all become good if for no other reason than to measurably optimize their own afterlives
Evil afterlives are not necessarily torturous and bad for you. And Good afterlives aren't just "oh, you're Good, therefore you get supreme bliss after death", especially in 9-box punnet square theology.

Some people don't get the luxury of being good enough to get anywhere, so might as well do decently in hell as opposed to getting a toe in heaven.

(Honestly, some of that is conjecture. I personally would prefer elysium over the abyss, myself)

>> No.40643568

>>40643333
It's not trying to change the world that is the problem. It is inventing an easy solution whole cloth from the right brain's metaphor-generating systems and acting as if it were true that is the problem. It is existing in a dream state, a sign of schizophrenia.

>> No.40643835

>>40642046
No, because Good Time Punch God will punch him in the face before completion since they have time powers, making them exist already and the villain superfluous. Now stop with your talk of Big Bad Evil Guys when it comes to antagonists. You want more people to fall for it, you have to learn to use the proper words dammit.

>> No.40644297

>>40643835
>Good Time Punch God will punch the BBEG him in the face
But none of the steps in the plan are evil, so that won't happen, will it?

>> No.40644331

>>40643568

I have no idea what your' deja-vu about

>> No.40644360

>>40642046

No, because Good Time Punch God will punch deja vu in the face before completion since is there an echo in there? making them making them makign thme maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
exist already and the villain superfluous. Now stop with your derja vu

I have no idea what you're talking about, Anon.
You want more people to fall for it, you have to learn to use the proper echo dammit.

>> No.40644999

>>40642046
If the GTPG is summoned, the universe would enter stasis as any act could potentially harm someone and thus be considered an evil act, and so the GTPG would interfere.

Anyone devoted to Balance would be duty bound to stop this. Hell, even a Lawful Good, as a LG knows (unless he's a complete dumbass with no wisdom) that this is a bad idea.

KORD DOESN'T APPROVE OF THIS, BROTHER!

>> No.40645076

Anyone getting the feeling of deja-vu?

Eh, it's prolly nothing.

>> No.40645405

>>40644999
That's dumb and not how evil acts work.

"Could potentially harm someone" isn't an evil act, or everyone would ping evil because they're constantly doing evil acts. But that doesn't happen, therefore it's not evil.

Smiting evil DEFINITELY hurts people, and isn't considered evil. Are you stupid, or something?

>> No.40645524

>>40642046
This thread is unjustifiable. You made the same fucking stupid thread yesterday; get a hobby! Quest threads are universally more relevant than you.

>> No.40646015

>>40645524
>a hobby

The pies? Oh! Heh-heh,
*I* threw the pies!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.40646035

>>40646015

I have no idea what you're talking about, Anon.

>> No.40646079

>>40645524
While I'm the OP of this thread, I'm not the OP of the other one. I was inspired by it, though; I find it interesting how mind control is seen as no good, but punching people in the face to stop them from doing evil is seen as being better.

So far all the answers given have been "an omnicient force punching people in the face to stop them from doing evil means people no longer have free will".

The follow up question, of course, is why is it that paladins smiting evil by punching it in the face is seen as OK and good, while an omniscient god pretty much doing the same thing is seen as NOT ok, when the only difference is that a god is a lot better at doing it.

>> No.40646097

>>40646079

I have no idea what you're talking about, Anon.

>> No.40646169

>>40646079
It is that difference that is the deciding factor.

When the weak enforces their will on the strong, he is a hero.
When the strong enforces their will on the weak, he is a tyrant.

>> No.40646360

Hey, who turned off the lights?

>> No.40646638

>>40646360

Eh, it's prolly nothing.

>> No.40646823

>>40642046
>He's he BBEG
>His action involves no evil plan
>The plan is to stop evildoers everywhere

Well yes, we stop him.

Because obviously, we're an evil party.

>> No.40646830

>>40644297
Again, Big Bad Evil Guy, aka BBEG. You imply they do so much evil that time itself is so disgusted it shits out a god that runs around punching evil in the face before rewriting all events so nothing bad ever happened. The word you want is antagonist for so silly a paradox otherwise. This also ignores the possibility that, in undoing so much, forcing a mindset, the aforementioned god isn't screwing stuff up on a cosmic scale. So again, either way the god punches the idiot in the face before being made.

>> No.40646863

>>40642046
Yes, for several reasons:
-He's a Big Bad Evil Guy.
-There's no proof that Good Time Punch God exists and/or can be summoned
-His plan is causing suffering regardless of whether or not the actions are evil
-You tried this bit yesterday, and it bores me.

>> No.40648670

>> No.40652024

>>40648670
I do not understand this animation.

>> No.40653114

>>40646079
>So far all the answers given have been "an omnicient force punching people in the face to stop them from doing evil means people no longer have free will".
You're missing the bit where it's actually impossible to TAKE an evil action, because doing so reverses time to just before you took it.

You could spend the equivalent of ten billion years trying to perform a single action, but clocks would not advance a minute, because you'd continue to be put back at square one.

>> No.40654514

>>40642046
I HAVE A QUESTION.

Why is the BBEG the BBEG if no evil is being wrought to make this happen.

I mean from a DM standpoint, not a plot point. A plot point could be ruled MUH politics said these powerful important guys told the party that "Hey dis guys bad kay, go sic im."

Im talking about why a dumbfuck DM would ever make this a plotpoint, and why in the FUCK you thought you needed to ask everyone including myself this question.

Answer both please.

>> No.40654572

>>40642046

You'd like the stuff we get on Canadian Netflix.

>> No.40654627

>>40654572

It's pretty decent.

>> No.40654854

>>40654572
>>40654627
I would totally watch shit shieeeet mang!

Fake as fuck, gotta be.

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