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Post about FFG, d6, Saga/d20, X-wing, Lego, Amazing Facial Hair, and anything else Star Wars Related


EoTE and AoR books
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/a3s zgj3z6w7gr/FFG_-_Star_Wars_RPG

D6 Star wars books
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/3x temvwxstfzq/Star_Wars_D6

Rune Quest Star Wars
kurgan84.free.fr/RQ/RQ6StarWars.pdf

SW visual guides
http://www.mediafire.com/download/k d7b7x0fbs0vvh6/Star+Wars+Ep+1+Visua l+Guide.pdf

http://www.mediafire.com/download/55yd74subd83v0y/Star+Wars+Ep+2+Visual+Guide.pdf

http://www.mediafire.com/download/7 by8b09bo8kb6og/Star+Wars+Ep+3+Visua l+Guide.pdf

http://www.mediafire.com/download/8 k9jo82ro2kmp8f/Star+Wars+Eps+4-6+Vi sual+Dictionary.pdf

http://www.mediafire.com/download/m 7ou1gv3jo94hnj/Star+Wars+Ultimate+V isual+Guide.pdf

Deckplans and such
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pn7zx4xnsqx8d/Star_Wars_Files
EoTE alphabet resource
http://triumphdespair.wordpress.com/edge-of-the-empire-alphabet/

most of the ships that I have statted:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4WpZjVe6ZwKVXFHM1FlV0k4bGs&usp=sharing
Shipfag's Ugly Starfighter Creation System
http://pastebin.com/RJ7TUPp6

EotE character generator:
http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/89135-another-character-generator/

EoTE Dice app
http://www.mediafire.com/download/64xy3uy6vepll8v/com.fantasyflightgames.swdice.ver.1.1.4.build.9.apk

The Wildlife of Star Wars: a Field Guide
http://www.mediafire.com/view/p5knoa7hxtodkac/The_Wildlife_of_Star_Wars_-_A_Field_Guide.pdf
X-wing Writefag, Questanon and Shipfag's rules of the NJO
http://pastebin.com/MUEZXENL

Daily Reminder that It's been a long road, sir. Long and hard and discouraging. For all of us, but mostly for you

>> No.33484723

>>33484710
Ongoing Writefaggotry:
Bantha Squadron
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10311238/1/Star-Wars-Bantha-Squadron
Solidarity (sort of Mandalorian War, sort of not)
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10313007/1/Solidarity
X-wing Writefag's works
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10317462/1/X-Wing-Rogues-Gallery
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10317420/1/Star-Wars-Top-Gear
Bounty Hunter Anon:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10318037/1/The-Big-Score
How Luke Skywalker Got Stinking Rich
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10318563/1/The-Old-Man-s-Gift-or-How-Luke-Got-Stinking-Rich
X-overfag's ME/Star wars crossover
http://pastebin.com/BW1gFicy
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10426058/1/Multi-Mass-Effect-Crossover
Gm-Sama's imperial clusterfuck (session report)
http://pastebin.com/cHpKBepL

Question for this thread: What is your favorite EU capital ship?

>> No.33484780
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>>33484723

For nostalgia's sake, it has to be the Imperial Escort Carrier. Yes, it's a slow-moving, unimpressive box full of TIE fighters, but it was the cornerstone of my strategy in Star Wars: Rebellion.

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33484861

Last thread ended in a discussion of Pazaak, Sabacc, and Dejarik. Might as well start this one off right.

Which ones best?

>> No.33484907

>>33484861

Pazaak is probably my least favorite, since it's just so uninteractive with opponents. Dejarik's nice, but always felt a little silly to me. So I guess that leaves Sabacc.

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>>33484723
A difficult choice, but I'd probably have to go with the Interdictor-class cruiser from KotOR. Although I loved pretty much everything in those games, aesthetics-wise.

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>>33484861
Dejarik IS silly but also brutal in the EU or novelization of E4. I dig being able to play it for realsies though. It's a lot of fun.

The cards I made of the stats and a little bio on each creature.

>> No.33485036

>>33484723
You know, I never thought about it? I don't really have a favorite. I guess I'd have to go with the ImpStar Deuce because it's the least overall silly design, though I think the Mon Cal cruiser comes in close.
This is only because of memories of X-Wing and X-Wing Alliance, though. You ask me about favorite fighters and I will have an itemized list, but not capital ships.
>>33484963
Dear Diary,
Today Dael was a pretty cool guy who doesn't afraid of anything.

>> No.33485054

>>33484963

So what's the difference between Offensive and Power?

>> No.33485071
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>>33484723
The Mon Cal star dreadnoughts.

>> No.33485095

>>33484861
Pazaak is easier to cheat at, Sabacc if you want to cheat and win big.
>Austistic rainman slicer

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>>33484723

>> No.33485268

>>33484861
I got a little bit of a soft spot for Dejarik because it reminds me a little bit of Monsterpocalypse.

Overall though, probably Sabacc.

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>>33484723
Hammerhead-class cruisers, loved them from the first time you see one in KOTOR

>> No.33485335

Is it considered a war crime to sneak a box of hungry mine crabs into an enemy base?

>> No.33485350

>>33485302
they are pretty neat, shame they cannot into planetary landing, though.

personally I'm stuck between the Dreadnaught cruiser and the Kaloth battlecruiser; dunno why, exactly.

>> No.33485352

>>33485335
What part of 'Kill On Sight' wasn't clear?

>> No.33485414

>>33485350
I like me some flying bricks. My favorite jet is the F4 Phantom.

>> No.33485442

>>33484723
Even though the Corellian trilogy was pretty terrible on the whole, I always liked the robot ramships. Because sometimes sufficient velocity IS the appropriate answer.

Favourite, if we're sticking with the Wookiepedia classification of capital ship as "Anything over 100 metres long" goes to the Night Caller. Pocket carrier that can double as a torpedo frigate in a pinch.

Honorable mention goes to the Lancer-class frigate.
>Do you see this? Do you know what this is?
>This is a Lancer-class frigate.
>Its mission in service to the Empire is to fuck fighters up wherever it goes.
>It does not have turbolasers.
>It does not fight capital ships.
>It is not a ship of the line.
>You cannot battle the quad laser cannon the Lancer carries. The quad laser cannon is never alone. It is always accompanied by other, even more destructive and accurate quad laser cannons, all of which are in turn accompanied by even more quad laser cannons.
>When you see a Lancer, do you know what you do?
>You idle your rebel fucking engines. You chill the fuck out and hope the Lancer doesn't put you on its list of rebel scum it wants to vape today. You drift right there and wait for the Lancer to finish its business and make the jump to lightspeed and then you go the fuck back to base.

>> No.33485470

>>33485442

>Lancer-class frigate

You are a man of class and distinction, and I applaud you for you good taste.

>> No.33485552

>>33485036
Dawww thanks :D

>>33485054
Offensive has a higher attack but low Def
Power has a high-mid attack and def.
Mid have low atk and Def, they're used mainly to force an opponent to either go through them or around them, board control.
Defensive has High Def. low atk.

>> No.33485566

>>33485414
oh, indeed.
>>33485442
I find the robot ramships disagreeable, but that's just because they open the door to more hard-scifi KE bombardment retardation to make it's way into star wars (it happened two threads ago, so I feel justified in calling it a thing) other than that, they're OK as a concept. the lancer is great, though. on the other end of the spectrum, the viscount is some terrifing shit, man

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>>33484710

Probably the Pellaeon Class Star Destroyer. Just fills me with some form of childlike glee

>Captcha says Critial esruishi.
Guess that's the feeling.

>> No.33485685

>>33485566
I'm not big on the whole KE bombardment issue, but I do like the odd appearance of a ship being designed or retooled for ramming as a one-shot trick. Lusankya's exit in the Vong war was a treat, but it's not something that would have been practical or even viable as a repeated strategy.

>> No.33485736

>>33485685
it just seems plain dumb to use one of your TWO SSDs in a ramming attack. like, why?

>> No.33485804

>>3348359

Will spice still be a rip off of dune spice with those cave scorpion/spider things that leave it in the tunnels?

I can't see it having a geologic explanation, but then it's star wars and they've palmed it of to people who could potentially be a bit more loony than lucas.

>> No.33485839

So here's another EotE capital ship question: What's the point of having Fire Arc: All or various other arcs on the same weapon? Doesn't the fact that it has Fire Arc: All mean that you can already hit targets in all directions? Or can a ship fire all its weapons in different arcs with a single attack action, meaning you?

>>33485804

Well, salt mines were intensely important in early history due to its usefulness and biological needs, and it's an inorganic compound.

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>>33485804
>more loony than lucas.
NEVER!!!

>> No.33485879

>>33485736
Well, when your SSD has been getting shot up constantly while holding a planet with no appreciable repair assets and you're fighting the closest thing the Vong have to Thrawn, they did the best they could with what they had: Traded a damaged asset that would have spent months at a repair yard anyway for a worldship and a warmaster.

>> No.33485921

>>33485839
only SOME of the guns of that class have the fire arc of all. say it's five port, five starboard and five dorsal with fire arcs port, starboard and all. you can only fire five guns (the dorsal guns) into any arc. five port guns can shoot only port, and five starboard guns can shoot starboard. it's pretty simple.

>> No.33485947

>>33485839
Oh wait, I didn't fully read the info in the pic.

It's a mineral, and now medicinal. Don't know if it has any narcotic quality anymore.

Also kessel is not only not a potatoid, it has a "lush" hemisphere that the arabs, i mean royal family, live in while ignoring the deplorable working conditions where they allow mining.

/pol/ will have a lot of fun drawing parallels to arab oil industry and a jewish agenda here.

>>33483598

>> No.33485952

>>33485921

So could you have the dorsal guns fire in the port or starboard arcs, giving you ten shots in that arc with that attack action?

I'm trying to figure out why you would want to have single-arc weapons of the same type as an all-arcs weapon on the same ship.

>> No.33486019

>>33485839
>Fire arcs
Read the ship entries. Actually read them. With reading comprehension.
For example:
Lancer (Age of Rebellion): Four dorsal, four ventral, four port, four starboard and four forward quad laser cannons (Fire arc all OR Port OR starboard OR Forward)

This gives you:
4 turrets, fire arc forward
4 turrets, fire arc port
4 turrets, fire arc starboard
8 turrets, fire arc all (dorsal and ventral)

Rather than record a separate weapon profile for identical guns on different sections of the ship, they provide the same statline, include OR in the profile, and expect a competent reader to be able to suss out the firing arcs of a given gun based on its position on the ship.

>> No.33486082

>>33486019

I get that the Lancer has 20 turrets spread across its frame with the same stat line. What I'm trying to understand is the point of the guns without Fire Arc All when you have the exact same guns with Fire Arc All on the same ship. If there's a target in the front arc, and you can fire the Fire Arc Front and the Fire Arc All weapons at it all at once, then I can see why. Else, they seem like a waste.

>> No.33486335

>>33486082
Oh. I see. You're not bad at reading, you're just an idiot.
I mean, why did a B-17 have a nose turret and a tail turret. After all, it had a dorsal and ventral turret that could shoot stuff in front and behind. That just seems like a waste.

>> No.33486371

>>33486335
Not him, but I think the issue is that the reasons for real-life craft to have weapons set up like that aren't really particularly well modeled by FFG's ship stats system. In essence, there's no reason why all capships aren't Hapan Battle Dragons except canon ship model inertia.

>> No.33486379

>>33486082
My brain is full of fuck.

They have Port (Left), Starboard (Right), Forward (Front), and Dorsal (All). So if there are, for example, Four X-Wings on each side of the Lancer (Front, Back, Left, Right) it can fire at all of them. If there are only X-Wings in less than all four arcs, it can use the dorsal guns to provide additional shots at other X-Wings.

>> No.33486411

>>33486082
>If there's a target in the front arc, and you can fire the Fire Arc Front and the Fire Arc All weapons at it all at once, then I can see why.
That's exactly why dude

>> No.33486421

>>33486379
>>33486411

That's what I figured, since that makes all the guns useful, but I wanted to make sure.

>> No.33486427

>>33486082

They stick as many "fire arc all" weapons as they could on the ship, then put some more with limited arcs.

You know, just like on real world ships.

>> No.33486437

>>33486427
Again, the problem seems to be that there doesn't appear to be anything stopping you from making every single weapon on a capship fire arc all.

>> No.33486440

>>33486371

How about physical limitations? If you put the guns in the front they won't be able to shoot in every arc, but it's still better to have some guns there than just leave the space empty.

>> No.33486450

>>33486440
Are there rules for physical limitations on arcs? If there are I'll shut the hell up right now.

>> No.33486471

>>33486450

Why would you need specific rules for that? It's perfectly logical as it is.

>> No.33486472

>>33486437
>Gun protruding from starboard side of ship
>Gee, sure is weird that this gun can't shoot to port. Through the ship it's mounted on.
Common. Fucking. Sense.

>> No.33486483

>>33486450
The rule is common sense.

"I want to stick some more turrets on the ship"
"Okay, well, there's no more space on the top or bottom."
"Fuck, fine, stick 'em on the sides."

>> No.33486502

>>33486471
Mostly to cut down on bitching at the table I wager.

>>33486472
That only really applies to canon ships in stock configuration. Once you get to modifying...nothing really preventing you from 360 turreted everything. It's not something I would do, but like I said above I could see table arguments starting up because somebody takes advantage.

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So, is YT-2400 the overall best freighter a party can have in EotE?

>> No.33486519

>>33486483
Common sense is a terrible thing to lean on in tabletop gaming. You need hard rules to deter munchkins.

>in b4 "just don't play with them"

Sometimes we can't choose who we're stuck playing with.

>> No.33486536

>>33486502

On a small ship like a freighter turreted everything makes perfect sense.

On a capital ship it simply won't work in SW. SW ships don't have giant turret cannons like say WW2 battleships. They have many smaller guns instead. You simply can't turret everything with that. That's why they have laser batteries with limited fire arcs.

>> No.33486544

>>33486519
>Sometimes we can't choose who we're stuck playing with.
You are allowed to say no to people you don't like.
If common sense is not enough just roll a dice or flip a coin and move on.

>> No.33486546

>>33486508

If you can crew it and keep the Emps off your back, Lambdas are really useful.

>> No.33486567

>>33486546

Flying a Lambda is just asking for trouble.

>> No.33486575

>>33486567

Like I said, if. You could register it with the Empire and as long as you never got in trouble, you'd be fine. Or just never get caught.

>> No.33486576

>>33486450
Copied and pasted - too lazy to reformat. Page 228 in EotE for reference. People with AoR, it should be early on in the "Starship and Vehicle Weapons" section.

Every ship and vehicle has four fire arcs: forward,
aft. port. and starboard. Each fire arc covers an
area of the ship in a ninety degree arc extending
from the center point of the ship Depending on
where on a ship's hull a vveapon is located, and tile
manner in which it is mounted, a weapon can cover
one 01- multiple fire arcs. Fixed weapons cover
only one fire a1-c. For example. the lase1· cannons
mounted in the nose of the BTL Y-Wing are fixed
forward and can only hit enemies in the forward
fire arc. Tun·et-mounted weapons. such as the turbolasel·s
mounted to the CR90 corvette. can traverse
to cover any fire arc required, which is listed
as "Fire Arc All" in the weapon's description.
Some ships also have Dorsal (top) and Ventral
(bottom) fire arcs. Weapons mounted on a ship's
dorsal surface cannot hit ventral targets, and
ventral-mounted weapons cannot engage threats
approaching from the ship's dorsal side. For example.
the ventral-mounted laser cannon on a YT-
1 300 medium freighter has a ventral fire arc of All.
which means it can engage any threat approaching
fmm below the ship, but must reposition itself
to engage enemies coming in from above.

>> No.33486829

>>33486575

What's so good about Lambdas anyways?

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>>33486567
Just fly casual

>> No.33486886

>>33486829

No handing penalty, good shields, tons of cargo capacity, durable frame, decent armaments, fast hyperdrives, and pretty affordable. It doesn't have a lot of speed or customizability, though, and it is a restricted item.

>> No.33487021

>>33486886
Seems like an upgraded YT-2400 would be better other than the lower cargo capacity.

>> No.33487069

>>33485206
How the fuck did they find a shipyard big enough to make that monstrosity?

>> No.33487084

>>33487021
If high cargo capacity isn't a big deal for your group, the YV-560 also makes a pretty good group ship in EotE when upgraded.

>> No.33487091

>>33487069
___________space_________

>> No.33487097

>>33487021

The YT-2400 needs 7400 creds worth of attachments to get to the Lambda's hyperdrive speeds and shield rating, and the Lambda has the same HT, Armor, Speed, and Handling as the YT-2400 for only 10k credits more. Though once you kit out the YT-2400, it'll likely perform better than the Lambda, what with the mod options on the attachments.

I'd go for the YT-2400 for a small operation, and a Lambda for bigger outfits.

>> No.33487112

>>33487097

>7400 creds worth of attachments
>only 10k credits more

Shit, I must have the stupid or something tonight to think the Lambda was a deal.

Though the Lambda does retain the aforementioned advantages for larger organizations.

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>>33486508
Better in almost every way than a 1300, able to go 0.5 warp factor with 1 upgrade, able to mount some impressive firepower, plus it's got individual rooms for a 6 man operation.

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>>33487115
>able to go 0.5 warp factor with 1 upgrade
I'm not clear on how modification options work, do they not take up hardpoints?
Also space turtle

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>>33487137
>Also space turtle
That's adorable.

>> No.33487178

>>33487137
Modification options don't, but they do take a mechanics check to install and 100 credits to buy the parts for it. The number next to the option indicates how many times you can take that option(like (2) Damage +1 mods)

>> No.33487189

>>33487137

I love the space turtle. It's my favorite starter ship in EotE.

And no, Modifications don't take up HP, only Attachments do. Though of course you have to slot in Attachments to get access to Modifications anyway, and each Modification requires 100 credits (1000 for ship attachments) and a Hard Mechanics check to install. Failing the Mechanics check means you can never apply that Mod, and a Despair means you ruin the Attachment it's on. Also, each Mod after the first ups the difficulty of the Mechanics check by 1.

>> No.33487538

>>33484723
Favorite EU capital ship: Probably the lancer class frigate
Cutest EU capital ship: Gladiator class star destroyer.

>> No.33487609

>ARC-170
>TIE/LN wings
>Headhunter engines
This poor, ugly piece of shit.

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>>33487609
>TIE/Ln body
>Pinook engines
>C-73 Tracker wings

>> No.33488306

>>33487955
My god.

>> No.33488348

>>33485095
You get caught with a skifter or other cheating device in a high stakes game and you can kiss your ass, friend's ass, and all of your collective wealth behind.

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>>33486519
Youre playing the wrong game then if you need rules for everything.

If you're going to be "We must have rules for this" then don't create your own ship and just use the ones from the book.

As for the weapons. Space is three dimensional combat. Sure your dorsal cannon can hit port, starboard, fore, and stern. A target might be coming in from the left on high and that dorsal turret can vap them. However, if the turret is coming in from the ventral side, it can't reach them without shooting through the ship. SOOO you stick guns all around the thing. Look at the Star Destroyers as an example. The more guns you have, the more targets you can engage at once or more firepower you can concentrate on an enemy to one side. But you can't shoot through your ship, so you make due with the space you have and the INFRASTRUCTURE you can fit inside that allows you to man those guns. Sure turrets on the top and bottom of your freighter might have wide firing arcs, but you might not have room to throw more ball turrets up there and have to position some guns on the side.

Honestly, I can't believe something as simple as this is being debated.

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>>33485442
Wow, I did not know that my Brikwars Droid Army's Super Dreadnought had any canonical basis...

>> No.33488808

>>33488458
b-b-b-but the rules don't say I can't shoot through my ship!!

>> No.33488927

>>33488808
The rules also don't say you can't commit suicide in real life to take yourself out of the genepool. You might want to look into that idea. It's a little OP, but totally worth the extra exp.

>> No.33489006

>>33488927
>all this friendlyness

>> No.33489028

>>33488927
It was a joke, man. Calm down.

>> No.33489141

Hey guys, I'be been lurking a while, but these threads have finally given me the inspiration to run a Saga Edition game. I want to run a pre-Force Wars game. All Jedaii, no lightsabers, final destination.

My questions for you are twofold. First, how do I keep things interesting for players when, from what I understand, Tython is this era is home to a population that is almost exclusively Force-sensitive.

Also I wanted to know what damage die a Force-imbued blade should be (I was thinking of making them a d12 or 2d6: they're dangerous, but not as much as lightsabers).

>> No.33489152

>>33489028
I know and my response was one as well

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>>33489141
>how do I keep things interesting for players
Force kung-fu.

>> No.33489221

>>33488927
:^)

>> No.33489245

If i were you, I would just plop it into medieval/hellenic/etc europe

Then have your guys manifest force powers.

All the interest.

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>>33489181
So less PEW PEW PEW and more Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon?

I can fap to this.

>> No.33489444

>>33485350
>shame they cannot into planetary landing
Yeah they can, you see a few of them landed in the KOTOR comic.

>> No.33489453

>>33489444
I meant that that giant dorsal fin at the front would make landing pretty hard

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>>33484710

For anybody who wants to learn more about the FFG RPG Star Wars line:

http://youtu.be/aRRtP3m-Scw

>> No.33489519
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>>33489141
>>33489181

>>how do I keep things interesting for players

Switch to FFG Star Wars system.

>> No.33489640

>>33489519
I would, but FFG SWRPG doesn't quite have the elements I want for this game. There aren't thorough, numerous options for Force users quite yet, which is what I need.

As alien as this may be to say, SWSE is better than FFGSWRG in this matter.

>> No.33489673

>>33489640
Give it til gamecon. F&D beta drops then.

>> No.33489912

Anyone happen to see any Age of Rebellion Scans? Doesn't seem like this can be found anywhere

>> No.33490152

Any othe funny pictures besides that pimp trandoshan to share from the new PDF's? I understand the whole book will take some time/usually does, but still, anything that sticks out?

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You guys ready for Rebellion Day?

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=4927

The gist:
>September 13th
>Rescue at Glare Peak Adventure distributed to participating retailers
>48 page adventure where players are Rebels that head to Trivar II and rescue two Rebel Pilots
>Miniatures maps for each player

Essentially, this is a free adventure for stores to run, similar to what FFG did with EotE on Free RPG day last year - presumably they're doing it separate this year to try and build more hype for their individual product as well as to build general hype for Star Wars: Rebels.

So for people wanting to get a copy of the adventure themselves, you can see if your local shop will let you run and/or keep the booklet (and any character sheets and maps nobody takes home with them), try and grab any that pop up online, or you can just wait until FFG uploads the adventure and assets onto their site (which took ~6 months for the previous free adventure).

>> No.33490265

>>33490239
Just realized my typo - I mean miniature maps, as in small maps each player can hold - not miniatureS maps, which implies FFG would be putting out miniatures. Sorry about that in advance for anyone who got confused.

>> No.33490328

Also Far Horizons is now "On the Boat". So we can now definitely expect it by August 29th.

>> No.33491532

>>33490328
disgonbgud.jpg

>> No.33491825

>>33486508
That's not how you spell YT-2000

>> No.33492050

>>33491825
Where are the stats?

>> No.33492137

>>33492050
Right here.


......you can't tell but I'm pointing to my head.

I think there is one in shipfags emporium too.

>> No.33492376

So who is your favorite clone trooper and why is it Heavy? May the Force rest his soul.

>> No.33492420

>>33492376
Liquid Snake

>> No.33492722

>>33492050
In our hearts

>> No.33492881

>>33492376
99

>> No.33493090

>>33492376
That's not how you spell 'Sev'.

>> No.33493114

>>33492881
He was a real trooper.

>> No.33493152

>>33492376
Echo and Fives because I ship them

>> No.33493237

>>33492376
>anyone who picks anyone other than 99

plebs, the lot of you

>> No.33493369

>>33487137

Turtle is nice and all, but it's armament is really horrible.

>> No.33493482

Any tips for nifty force powers for a force wizard style character in saga?

>> No.33493806

>>33493482
Force Sweep. Knock every enemy over for a turn, have your meat shield carve them up.
Lather, rinse, repeat.

>> No.33494023

>>33484861
>>33484907
I suppose that's true, it's got less bluffing involved than even blackjack.

But the rules make sense and if we knew the deck count for the green cards it would be playable in real life, Sabaac just doesn't make sense and the randomizer can't be replicated.

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Force Pike's only damaging part is the thing on the tip right? So can you just put that thing on other weapons? Like make a Force Pike bayonet? Or Force Pike wrist blades?

>> No.33494706

>>33494619
The bottom bulb and parts of the shaft have power generators.

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What are good Star Wars artists?

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>>33494706

Shaft looks way too thin for something like that. It's probably there just to give you reach.

Power generator is obviously in the handle.

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>>33492376
>clones
>souls

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>>33494619
>>33494706
>>33494791

>> No.33494860

>>33488458
In that case it seems like the most optimal thing to do is a ship with a fuckload of Fire Arc: All turrets, half ventral and half dorsal so that anything that comes at it is guaranteed to see at least half a fuckload's worth of fire if not more.

>> No.33494938

>>33494857

Graphite shaft looks like a 100% optional component.

I'd say you can easily fit this thing as a bayonet.

>> No.33494947

http://systemmasterypodcast.com/2014/07/15/star-wars-rpg-system-mastery-23/

Little podcast I like, discussing d6 Star Wars (2nd Edition corebook, to be precise). Thought you guys might like it.

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So anyways, how common are human shaped droids covered in synth-skin? And do they even exist at all?

They most certainly have the technology to produce them, but for some reason we never see them in SW.

>> No.33495042

>>33494986
There are only a handful of high quality Human Replica Droids out there, and a few hundred or thousand low quality ones.

>> No.33495067

>>33487097
>>33487112
It's also better armed.

At least in the front arc.

>> No.33495113

>>33495067

YT-2400 is better armed overall.

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Je'daii Quest anon here. Work's slowed down, so I'm back to planning a bit.

In keeping up with the planned beginning of the game (players being newly-ascended Je'daii Journeyers), I'be decided to make this game relatively sandboxish to keep up with the theme of exploration. I'm borrowing from Pathfinder for the grid-based exploration system, unless someone an suggest something better.

We'be established that Tython's population is nearly all Force-sensitive, but is every single one a Je'daii? I doubt it... more likely it'd be only the best of the best that make it to Rangerhood, a significant portion would probably go into a Service Corps-type deal or just pursue a simple life while focusing on their community, upholding the basic tenants of balance between the light and dark sides of the Force. Or just skip planet and do something somewhere else.

As for actual encounters, I'm still working on ideas. Dangerous animals and shit to start out, probably.

>> No.33495134

>>33494986
Rare. Quite possibly more because of the social stigma, but you don't get a technological marvel like Guri often

>> No.33495166

>>33494986
From what I can tell most citizens of SW like their Droids to stay tools. Very few, other than things like protocol droids, are ever even given humanoid bodies and the Skywalker family is anomalous in that it does not regularly memory wipe R2 and 3PO. I think a humanoid synth skin droid would make people uncomfortable. People don't feel bad about droid work because they are machines. Humanizing them would probably make it feel slavey.

>> No.33495186

>>33485947
For a long time people in-universe thought Glitterstim was a mineral, they didn't know the spiders wove it for ages.

>> No.33495358

>>33487097
So basically what you're saying is my previous post was 100% correct

>> No.33495378

>>33495166

Droids looking like robots makes perfect sense for like 99% of their roles, but for something like a robot maid or dancer or waitress real androids should work better.

And I really doubt less peaceful societies from outer rim that accept slavery anyways would have any moral problems with android servants or prostitutes.

And wasn't the bald guy from EpVI an android?

>> No.33495384

>>33495358
Attachments and Mods have more than just a cost associated, they are a pain to find at times.

>> No.33495386

>>33494986
Rare albeit not for technological reasons as they can make them easily enough. It is cultural stigma that prevents mass production.

>> No.33495407

>>33495130
Note alot to comment, but do you really think the prototypical word for jedi would be the same as the Vong called jedi in a horrible mock gook accent?

>> No.33495440

>>33495378
>robot dancer
absolutely disgusting we have institutionalized twi'lek slavery for a reason
>waitress
absolutely disgusting we have institutionalized the free right of travel for emancipated twi'lek slaves for a reason
>robot maid
Absolutely disgusting, we have institutionalized twi'lek slavery for a reason

>> No.33495478

>>33495378
Cyborg.
>>33495386
Well, Guri cost 9... Million? Billion? credits from a master craftsman who only made a few and then died.

>> No.33495508

Meh as far as I remember there are droid prostitutes as well.

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What, isn't she kawaii enough for you, guys?

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>>33495440

I'm pretty sure a specialized dancing droid would be capable of shit no twi'lek slut would without 10 years of training.

You could also give her a top grade synthflesh pussy with vibrations and electric stimulation as extras.

I'm sure you can find droids like that in Corporate Sector.

>> No.33495637

>>33495548

Looks like shit from Jetsons.

Seriously George...

>> No.33495657

>>33495584
Every attempt at an HRD that wasn't by Guri's creator was considered an uncanny valley failure.

>> No.33495684

>>33495584
Sure, but at that point you are paying for an overpriced IG-88. Gur shit be rare yo, and honestly if you need to travel to the corporate sector to get your hands on anything, I wouldn't exactly call that encouraging for the product

>> No.33495693

>>33495548
>>33495637
That was the point.

It was a diner, diners are all 50s retro and therefore any droids in there had to be 50s retro-future.

>> No.33495725

>>33495693
But you can utilize the same source of inspiration without coming off as an uninspired hack

>> No.33495730

>>33495657

That's EU ripping off dr.Soong.

And wasn't that only on the software side? If they can make perfectly fine cyborgs there is no logical reason why they couldn't make a true android. It just wouldn't act 100% human.

>> No.33495787

>>33495730
Synflesh is not so great for full body coverings, some strange loss of pliability at large scales.

You need cloned flesh and a life-support system for it to work right.

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>>33495684

When you mention it, a slutbot would be a great assassin droid.

>> No.33495858

>>33495832
FOR ENGLAND, SNAKE?
NO. FOR ME

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>>33494722
http://ukitakumuki.deviantart.com

For all your operator needs.

>> No.33496031

>>33495962

I really wish SW movies took war a little bit more seriously. At the very least on Republic Commando level.

Battles in Prequels were just "let's charge the enemy like a bunch of brainless retards".

>> No.33496055

>>33495962
>this art
Damn. Makes me want to run Metal Wars: Pmc Snake

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I can't believe I just found this.

>> No.33496164

>>33496110
Oh wait, wrong pic.

>> No.33496179

>>33496164
So we're not playing marco polo?

>> No.33496236

>>33496031
Clone Wars did. The only episode in which troopers were ordered to do a full frontal assault without some catch was was when their commander was trying to get them killed on purpose.

>> No.33496507

I'm not sure if i posted this here before, but what do you think of my sith armor on a budget? Star Wars Saga

>Armored flight suit
>Helmet package (bonus to perception)
>Cortosis gauntlets
>Wrist rocket launcher

>> No.33496523

So how did It cost Disney to bribe Cartoon Network into letting them say "hell" in the Clone Wars series?

>> No.33496655

>>33496236
And another time where the commanders fully admitted it was a terrible idea but that they needed bait to distract the internal security.

>>33496523
Was still Lucas at the time, he simply said if they didn't like it he would choose another channel.

>> No.33497279

>>33495186
Eating rocks to get high, Star Wars Fuck Yeah.
>>33495407
It is was? canon that Je'daii is the super old term for those Force using fucks from that planet what does it.

>> No.33497325

>>33495548
>>33495637
>>33495693
>>33495725
It was also super jarring to have a space wizard walk into a 1950s diner to get intel from a fry cook. I mean, I'm SUPPOSED to be taking this film semi-seriously, right? Not thinking it's a comedy that no one told the actors about?

>> No.33497365

>>33495440
I'm trying to remember, but despite the tons of twilek slaves out there Ryloth denies it sells off it's own people right?

>> No.33497400

>>33497365
The Elders of Ryloth are totally not complicit in the longest running and legal slave trade in the galaxy, Indeed.

>> No.33497447

>>33497325
Obviously, were you not listening to the dialogue?

>I hate sand, it's so sandy. But you, you are not sandy. And this is why I love you.

>> No.33497532

>>33497447
YOU ARE TEARING ME APART LIIIISA
sorry
YOU ARE TEARING ME APART ANAKIN

>> No.33497583

>>33497447
Just making sure.
>I killed them all. The men, the women, the children. I killed them all while looking like I had eaten too much cheese!

>> No.33497707

>>33497532
ALL THE JEDI BETRAY ME I FEHD AHP WITH THIS GALAXY

>> No.33497729

>>33497707
Oh hai Luke!


Vaguely ontopic:
Is it inevitable that all sith get yellow eyes? What about miralauka? Do they get yellow teeth instead?

>> No.33497788

>>33497729
Darkside corruption seems to manifest in a bunch of different ways. Anakins eyes did not even stay yellow as I recall, just when he was calling heavily on the darkside.

>> No.33497839

>>33497729
>Is it inevitable that all sith get yellow eyes?
I don't think there are any rule for how that corruption manifests.
Some people get pale, some get visibly darkened veins, palpatine looked like a raising after having to exhaust his powers to defeat Mace Windu.

Then there are the sith that are covered in sith tattoos where you really can't see it.

>> No.33497891

>>33497532
It's worse than that. She actually says "You are breaking my heart." Another Anon had a good post about how, while a good story creator, Lucas can't into "show, don't tell" it's basically "Anikan is the chosen one." "Anikan and Obiwans relationship is strained." "Hiding his marriage is stressful." Were are basically just told this stuff. That's why the clone wars series is such a good companion to episode III we actually see all that stuff happening. Instead of just "you were my brother Anikan"

This is why all of Lucas movies are better when he writes the plot, and let's someone else execute it.

>> No.33498053

>>33497891
So much this.
The scenes in Episode II with Padme and Anakin are painful to watch.
If Lucas had just let his actors, you know - act, instead of having them say terrible dialogue the romance would have worked much better.

>> No.33498278

>>33497891
Anakin-Padme is especially awful when you compare it to to Han-Leia

>> No.33498365

>>33498278
For a good time, imagine Harrison Ford saying, "I'm haunted by the kiss, that you never should have given me."

>> No.33498814

>>33498365
No way, because Harrison would have objected to saying such tripe.

>> No.33498910

>>33498365
>>33498814
Maybe he could've even turned it into a classic.

>> No.33499090

>>33489254
Force Wuxia is best Wuxia

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Why is FFG ignoring Brawl weapons so hard? There are tons of Melee weapons but very few Brawl ones.

Stuff like claws of wristblades would be really useful.

>> No.33499161

>>33495440
I want a Twi'lek dancer boy

>> No.33499188

>>33499139

Weren't there some in Dangerous Covenants?

>> No.33499215

>>33496236
>their commander was trying to get them killed on purpose
Wasn't that the whole war

>> No.33499430

>>33499188

Just 3 and not really interesting ones.

>> No.33499588

>>33497891
I spoke on that, but I remember reading it better explained in a blog... or maybe video... or something. Think the guy had a british accent.

>>33499161
You sick bastard!!!!! Yeah, never found male twi'lek art beyond fingerstrumming jewplanning.

>>33499139
Well there are vibroknuckles... and brass knuckles... anything else really gets into melee tier and again it's open enough to where you have the stats for how it behaves, fluff it however you want.

>> No.33499612

>>33497279

Didn't the Vong call them Je'daii because of some link to a obscure old religious story they had? I vaguely recall that being in Vector Prime.

>> No.33499625

>>33499430
I liked the vamblades but they're not particularly good sadly.

>> No.33499786

>>33499625

I'm hoping bounty hunter's book will give us some nice toys.

>> No.33499900

>>33499588
>never found male twi'lek art beyond fingerstrumming jewplanning
And that's terrible.

I remember an amusing theory that Twi'lek men are all square jawed hypermasculine types (unless they get fat) since their women are all buxom space babes

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>>33495962

It's really damn sad we'll never get something like this in SW movies.

Only Episode IV and V had battles that resembled real war a bit. Everything else was garbage for babies.

>> No.33500418

>>33500067
Yeah. If I remember correctly, ANH was based after WW2 footage, while ESB had Norwegian reservists playing some of the soldiers in the Battle of Hoth, who most likely provided some advice as well.

>> No.33500481

>>33497788
In overall I think the yellow eyes are not some sort of permanent trait of most darksiders, merely a symptom of intense negative Force use. Kinda like that Dark Rage power.

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Do you think FFG will try to balance the Jedi characters with AoR/EotE characters? Or are they going to be much stronger from the start?

>> No.33500896

>>33500418

Exactly. Which is why they felt so real compared to looney tunes shit they called battles in other movies.

Episode IV made Tie Fighters seem threatening. In Jedi they were crashing left and right like if they were piloted by idiots with no training. Episode V made Imperial ground forces seem professional. In RotJ elite legion was defeated by teddy bears.

It's just sad.

>> No.33500901

>>33500669
I'm sure Jedi characters will have a bit more of a boost in grabbing force ratings over EotE/AoR, but I'd imagine that like current Force-Sensitives, Force Users will need to spend more XP to be more useful in things that aren't lightsabers and force powers - shit that'll get them locked up or killed in the standard setting.

So basically, I expect them to ultimately be fairly balanced, especially in the beginning, and depending on how you want to measure things, still somewhat balanced when high XP amounts come into play.

>> No.33500927

>>33500669
>>33500067
Damnit, I said I wouldn't... I said I had to finish KOTOR one more time before I did it... but Kotor's on my laptop and it doesn't like me right now.... and those images, no matter how strange and magical "OC DONOTCOPY!"... damnit I'm starting another Exile!

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>>33500927
Found an old file where I had finished Peragus and remembered my promise. Thankfully I skip the most painful part of K2 and I know I've got the restored content loaded up so it might not be so bad.

>> No.33501073

>>33499625
Maybe we can get vibro vamblades repcom style.

>> No.33501119

>>33500896
>In Jedi they were crashing left and right like if they were piloted by idiots with no training.
You mean the Battle over Endor, or entering the Death Star?

Because Rebel pilots got hit just as hard during the former.

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>>33501119

In the Battle over Endor you see Tie Fighters crushing every 10 seconds like if they were piloted by drunk autists.

>> No.33501536

>>33499612
No idea, never read it.
>>33500418
Not gonna lie, Hoth is my favorite battle. There's a fan poster for ESB floating around which is just a fuzzy silhouette of a walker with a running rebel trooper in front of it. That's some good shit there.
>>33501054
>most painful part
Tell me, please.

>> No.33501623

>>33495478

Where exactly was it stated that Lobot is a cyborg and not an android? Because if it's EU stuff I'm just going to ignore it.

Why would a cyborg be called Lobot? He would have a normal name.

>> No.33501652

>>33501623
Normal names in Star Wars are things like Elan Sleazebaggano and Savage Opress, so I don't really see your point

>> No.33501684

>>33501536

I can only imagine how amazing Hoth battle must have looked for people back in the 80's.

>> No.33501728

>>33501623
Movie doesn't exactly spend too much time on him, so really, most everything is "EU" stuff.

Anyways, Jewel of Yavin calls him a cyborg, as does Wookieepedia.

>> No.33501729

>>33501652

It's prequels where alien names went really ridiculous and Savage Opress is probably the worst case.

Humans have rather normal names. And that guy is either a human or a droid.

>> No.33501730

>>33501623
On the other hand, neither movie supplements nor EU stuff have directly stated that he's a droid. It works both ways.

>> No.33501817

So in EotE when a droid is using a weapon like a vibrosword that is a part of his body should he use melee or brawl for the roll?

I'd say the higher skill should apply.

>> No.33501935

>>33501817
Melee. You consider the weapon as if it weren't attached - so Ranged Light guns that are attached are Ranged Light, same for Ranged Heavy, Gunnery, Brawl, and Lightsabers.

>> No.33502109

>>33501729
The prequels are canon, deal with it.

>> No.33502223

>>33502109

I tell myself that Prequels are really shitty in universe movies about real events.

>> No.33502317

>>33502223
As long as you're dealing with it.

>> No.33503494
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It took about a day for me to learn the basics of wiring and soldering, but the lightsaber is now totally functional. I was going to do a faux ivory handle with some sculpey but I didn't really trust in its durability so I went with a simple leather wrap.

Pretty fun experience overall. I highly recommend it.

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>>33503494
>My lightsaber will never be as cool as that

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>>33503494
That's pretty bitchin'.

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>>33503494
I see you have constructed a new light saber. Your skills are complete.

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>>33503494

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>>33503578
Assuming you have the tools and some basic know-how, it's pretty easy to make a really cool saber. If not, there's always MHS or sink tubes. They make sound boards and LEDs that'll fit in just about anything these days if you're interested in light and sound.

>>33503626
>>33503729
Thanks guys. I had a ton of fun making it.

>>33503647
Come with me (like that's going to work)

The sound font I installed actually sounds very similar to Luke's, especially the ignition sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1nMds0oTsI

I also have this one installed. I like the idle hum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iblwIB_uq5s

>> No.33504061

>>33501054
Just finished Peragus myself. I grabbed a lot more than just RCM though

>> No.33504095

>>33501729
Greedo, the greedy Rodian. Solo, who's out for himself. Skywalker, the amazing pilot.

>> No.33504201

>>33504061
My mood list had a few things that I feel really screw the balance of the game until the end. Character clothing that is end game tier or superior, Kreia has a lightsaber, exiles armor and clothing... But damn, if that thin waisted exile isn't perfect. Peragus saber crystal... And then you get to Telos and it's conversation after conversation. Running back and forth doing fetch missions... If I hadn't played this game a thousand times already it wouldn't be so painful.

>> No.33504361

>>33503895
I'm reluctant to make another one, I designed a lightsaber and then I built it so now I have to deal with the shortcomings of my design namely that it's just a belt prop that I forgot to add a belt clip to. To my brand of autism, that's it, end of story.
On the other hand, I could work on making a stunt version...
>Come with me
The BALLS on that kid!
"Join me, and together we can rule the galaxy as father and son!"
"Come with me, leave everything behind."
You little sneak! Offering your old man the same deal he offered you; switch sides and carte blanche! Your balls are so big that they need half the Imperial fleet to repel chutzpah of that magnitude!

>> No.33504408

>>33503494

Nice melta-saber

>> No.33504410

>>33504201
Most of mine was cosmetic (long saber is best saber) but a few were gameplay stuff.

Some combat arena, too.

>>33504361
>Darth Vader actually agrees

What would even happen. Palps would be legit furious with two Skywalkers against him

>> No.33504472

>>33504410
Oh, Palpatine is a dead man, no question.
After that? Lotta people got a hateon for Vader and there's still the Empire at large.

>> No.33504605

>>33504472
I don't think Luke would have been able to redeem Vader at that point. I think it would have ended up being basically the same as Vader's offer in effect - Vader and Luke as lords of the Sith overthrowing the Empire

>> No.33504683

>>33504605
Was there any Infinities like this?

Because even if it's a bad end, it does sound cool and would be interesting to see.

>> No.33504802

Wasn't one of the Infinities something like that, though? Vader agreeing to help overthrow Palpatine and then leaving the galaxy forever after doing so?

>> No.33504907

>>33504802
Yeah, I remember one like that with a white armored Vader. Though I was thinking more about an Infinity with Luke accepting Vader's offer in ESB.

>> No.33505994

>>33499900
> theory that Twi'lek men are all square jawed hypermasculine types
yeah. I came up with that one to make the hyperfeminine females less silly, by making it universal instead of the women just being fapbait and the men being lame. IIRC the twi'lek from rogue squadron is drawn this way, which is a point in it's favor

>> No.33506928

Will update later tomorrow friends

Bad news though, I got a job. Will probably be doing weekends. Rip.

>> No.33507349

how heavy do you like your jedi robes?

>> No.33507868

When cutting through a thick enough door with a lightsaber would molten slag filling the gap back up after it's cut be a problem in sime cases? I could see it requiring multiple minutes to clear out enough matter, possibly hours for doors thicker than the blade is long or made to drip new metal in as a specific countermeasure.

>> No.33507952

>>33507868
in the case of super-thick door, you'd probably cut out a cone shape, force pull it out, then do it again till you'r through. solves those issues right well

>> No.33508162

>>33507952
For the most part yeah, though the molten metal flowing back in could slow things down a tad and require you to retrace your work or leve the saber in place a prolonged period of time

>> No.33508270

>>33507868
I imagine some of it evaporates and the rest just drips out

>> No.33508459

>>33505994
Didn't that have to do with absurd levels of metabolism to eke every bit of energy out of their wasteland planet?

>> No.33508734

>>33508459
it might, dunno

>> No.33509851

>>33499900
Nah, it makes sense since twi'lek FEMALEs are status slav-e symbols and the average twi'lek that you meet is a female, offworld and enslaved/lives an active physical live. On the opposite spectrum, you have the fact that getting fat is a status of wealth/success within twi'lek culture (like it was not long ago in our world). Everything stems from that. The females on the elder ruling council or whatever they call it on Ryloth are as bloated as your average male twi'lek majordomo

>> No.33511112
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So (most) droids are sapient and sentient right? Just most people aren't willing to admit it?

>> No.33511152

>>33511112
Go away IG-88

>> No.33511210

>>33511152
Well they have a sense of self and the ability to reason with knowledge

>> No.33511247

>>33511210
No they don't it's just really advanced programming that makes you think they do

>> No.33511257

>>33511247
>africans aren't human it's just advanced mimicry
I'm joking

>> No.33511266

>>33511112
In the Star Wars universe, droids are usually just emotionless, non-sentient drones, but if they stay active for a long time without having their memories erased they will eventually start developing personalities and minds of their own. Which is the explanation why droids like R2-D2 can act on their own and make their own decisions.

>> No.33511273

>>33511112
Not really. The vast majority are just dumb A.I.'s if they have any intelligence at all and they few that have something approaching sentience are ones that haven't been maintained properly in ages.

>> No.33511313

>>33511273
>>33511266
Alright, so replace most with "many".

>ones that haven't been maintained properly in ages.
I think this falls under "not willing to admit it"

>> No.33511378

>>33511313
If it were more than a handful then it'd fall under that, but the vast majority of droids, even those that have 'sentience' exist only to serve, they just may have something approaching choice in their master.

>> No.33511433

>>33511378
The fact that any of them with a moderately advanced AI that goes without memory wipes tends to develop personality and free thinking speaks for itself I think.

>> No.33511491

>>33511433
It speaks of them as machines with quirks, more akin to machine spirits than anything. With very few exceptions none of them even try to operate outside of their original programming. You'll never see an assassin droid trying to be anything but an assassin or an overseer trying to be anything but an overseer, just as you'll never see a war droid trying to be anything but a war droid unless made to do so.

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>>33508459
Originally Ryloth was tidal locked with it's sun. The inhospitable surface means they developed vast caverns beneath the surface on the terminator line between darkness and light. Living off of whatever they could scrounge the Twi'lek's developed the ability to eat pretty much anything and their body would process it.

With TCW Ryloth was changed to a more adobe style homes on the surface. It's a standard planet with a hospitable surface.

Twi'lek still have the wild metabolism that allows them to eat anything, and it's still customary for them to never refuse a meal when offered. As we can still see Orn Free Tal being as massive as he is and actually developing additional lekku to store fat deposits.

Another thing that is still canon are the various shades of Twi'leks. Rutian and Lethan among all the other fan named shades for the rest.

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>>33511491
>4-LOM

>>33511433
Really, you're not supposed to think about this with a HSF mind set. They are just moving toasters, mobile PC's, agile smart phones. When one gains quirks it is due to faulty programming and backups of code creating the illusion of sapience.

R2, while quirky as hell, was still just a droid. His quirks gave him personality, but he didn't suddenly wake up and go "I think, therefore I am!"

Most droids develop quirks that are counteractive to their continued efficient programming. It was just luck that R2 developed the way he did to provide additional support.

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>>33511939
>"I think, therefore I am!"
That's because he doesn't speak in Basic

>> No.33512231

>>33500896
>crashing left and right like if they were piloted by idiots with no training
>Not filling out understrength TIE squadrons with kamikaze droid TIEs
>LaughingZsinj.holo
>LaughingRogueSquadronIIdevs.holo
Those fucking kamikaze TIEs made Rogue Leader's Endor mission harder than it had to be.

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>>33511939
>Really, you're not supposed to think about this with a HSF mind set.
That actually helps, I guess it's in the same vein as pic related.

>> No.33512421

>>33511939

There are so many completely different cultures in SW I'm sure there are people out there who care about droids. There are probably organizations fighting for their rights too.

It's just that most people don't care. In SW case a tiny minority with a different opinion can still mean many planets and billions of people.

KOTOR had that chick who fell in love with a droid.

>> No.33512812

shipfag, what the devil are you doing on other threads

>> No.33513080
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GONK

GONK

>> No.33513131

>>33513080

What are these guys even used for?

Are they like walking computers or something?

>> No.33513219

>>33513131
They're power generators.

>> No.33513246

>>33513219
>a generator with legs
I hate to say they're getting a bit lazy there, but good god.

>> No.33513262

>>33513246
Yep, they're just fusion generators on two legs. They walk around wherever power is needed.

>> No.33513534

>>33513219

Well, that actually makes a bit of sense I guess.

>> No.33513653
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When I first read EotE core book I thought Droids are crap due to starting 1 in all stats, but after gaining some experience with the system I must say they are fucking great.

It looks like if you want to min-max your character droids are the way to go.

>> No.33513711

>>33513653
Thing is, a minmaxed droid is always going to be a worse generalist than a min maxed human/any other race, while being equally op in their specific field

>> No.33513743

>>33513653
>start with 5 in your important stat
>all them free skills
They're pretty cool, yeah.

>> No.33513786

>>33513711
I favor Chiss for generalists. I can pull a 4 and 2 3's at the cost of 1 Presence.

Having a chiss with brawn 3 and 3 ranks in burly still amuses me to no end.

>> No.33513829

>>33513711

If you start your droid with 3/4/1/1/2/2 and go for a fighting type compared to a human you only get 2 lower stats, and they are stats you are rarely going to use. Not to mention you can buff Int later with implant so that's really just one lower stat.

For that price you get more cybernetic upgrades, better soak, immunity to a ton of crap like poisons or lack of air and ability to integrate pretty much any kind of equipment directly into your body. Not even mentioning that droids can be repaired from any kind of injury.

They are awesome.

>> No.33513836

>>33513786
>not having a chevin jack of all trades

>> No.33513851

>>33513786
U wot m8? U having a gigglessss?

>> No.33513882

>>33513851
I have plenty of laughs when I can switch between 2 cumbersome 5 weapons.

>> No.33513906

>>33513882
It kinda makes sense if you consider that in EOTE if you are playing an exiled chiss, which means you are comparatively super aggressive or espouse some unusual, non defensive ideal like that

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>>33513906
They best defense is a good offense, and I still keep a largely defensive mindset compared to the rest of the party. Yeah, I have the biggest weapons and the heaviest armor, but I don't think there's been a time when I was the first one who shot and I did let one of the other players get their ass kicked in a bar fight until the other guy pulled a vibroknife, then it was time to break things up.

>> No.33514042

>>33513786
I favor Gand, with 10 obligation you could have 5 stats at 3 (or one stat at five and a three will) and presense one.

>> No.33514114

>>33514012
But do you make a mean space tequila?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk8jI54qAko

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>>33484723
Favorite capital ship? Gotta be this baby.

>> No.33514204

>>33514148
Oh man, i forgot about this. That's a campaign setting right there

>> No.33514311

>>33514148

That's just stupid. Normal Super Star Destroyers are already ridiculously gigantic.

>> No.33514338

>>33514148
I get the feeling there's some cthulhu nonsense going on there/Palpatine accidentally dark side essence

>> No.33514353

>>33511152
Didn't IG-88 tried to mind rape all other droids into submission?

>> No.33514379

>>33514353
GUARD UNITS 134 TO 23000000
SEIZE THIS DISSENTER
LONG LIVE THE DROID REVOLUTION

>> No.33514429

>>33514353

EU crap. He also supposedly took control of Death Star II central computer.

It's really better to ignore all this comics bullshit.

>> No.33514472

>>33514429
No, it's just Kevin J anderson bullshit. I wonder if there's anything that man can't ruin.

>> No.33514568

While were at it do star wars have mind uploading technology?

>> No.33514601

>>33514568
No, star wars people just live forever if they want to.
Unless you meant uploading your mind to another organic body, which is totes the bombs if you are a sith

There's really only one example of what you are suggesting:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Molierre_Cundertol

Oh and Ruuk technology in general. Protip: It's an eternity of eternal pain

>> No.33514665

>>33514568
Wookiepedia gives me that:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mind_Uploading
I don't know if its canon even within legends

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>>33514601
>No, star wars people just live forever if they want to.
IIRC human lifespan is still limited in SW even if rich elites that really want to live can survive several centuries.

>> No.33514879

DM'd an Edge of the Empire game for some friends while I was visiting. It was just the demo game and I was learning the system too.

>They picked Pask and Oskara, btw

Overall it went well, but they had a tendency to set up everything to it'd hinge on one skill check, then spectacularily fail that check.

>Immediately crit one Gamorrean out of existence, reduce the remaining one to one wound and subdue him with a hard check against fists (succeeded)
>Forego talking to the bartender to interrogate the prisoner, attempt is neutral with disadvantage (so the Gamorrean grunts in his language and they don't understand it, I guess)
>Turn to the crowd to ask if anyone speaks Gamorrean (insist on rolling, and failing a charm check, everyone ignores them)

I don't want to be that railroading DM, but its kind of necessary for the beginner game, the way its structured.

But it really came to a head in the fucking junk shop.

>"Hey there, we work for Trex and are here to pick up a part for him."

"Prove it..."

>(Fails several charms against junkmaster's dicipline.) "... No."

"Do you even know what race Trex is?"

>(Fails knowledge check.) "...Gamorrean?"

"Nice try, but I'm always willing to hear out a better offer."

>(Fails the haggling check, will only accept 750 credits for the part) Fuck that, that's almost all our credits.

>> No.33514913

>>33514879
>waits to find out how this party stole it from the right honorable shopkeeper

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>>33514879

At this point, I have the droid come back in to remind them he exists, the junk shop owner shouts it out the door again.

>They opt to hold up the shop. That succeeds easy enough (they have blasters and all) but they fail to threaten the old man into giving up the part (that fucking discipline check, man...)

Remind them quite overtly now that the droid exists (partially because the guy playing Pask was getting rightfully pissed off)

>Pask goes out and sees the droid disassembling a wreaked speeder. Opts to help break off some of the hull. Fails that check too.

Droid thinks its funny as hell.

>Pask outright asks the droid where the part is.

Droid leaves and returns with it.

>Pask decides he's keeping the droid, successfully removes the restraining bolt with an amazingly good mechanics check.

They both return to the shop and start looting the place. I have them do a difficult perception check which nets them all the fucking equipment that he could have sold them plus a decent amount of credits and scrum.

I honestly don't care anymore, I want them out of here so we can put the game on hold for the night or go to the next encounter, whatever.

>Pask insists on keeping the droid.

>Oskara doesn't want Trex to come looking for the part and get tipped off they're looking to steal his ship.

>Threatens the junk dealer, insists on rolling, and fails it.

>"Ok, we have to kill him."

Wait, what.

>"I bind his hands, Pask holds onto him while I find a deep enough ditch in the junk yard."

Junk dealer starts screaming for help. They break one of his legs.

I'm seriously considering bumping up the trooper encounter.

Session ends with the players quite proud of themselves, the junk dealer is dead under a pile of garbage, they have roughly double their starting credits, and a droid buddy.

I don't fucking know, man...

>> No.33515133

>>33515023
As long as everyone's having fun, man.

>> No.33515243

>>33515023

Overall they tell me they've enjoyed the game, and know a few people who might want to join in. I may look into online options to continue it, depending on things they may choose to continue with those characters or make their own, I'm not sure.

Any tips on how I should handle future combats? Oskara is pretty fucking beastly. Do later encounters need to be buffed a little, or do they get tougher?

>> No.33515245

>>33515023
Don't up the stormtrooper encounter next session... instead, once you hit the followup adventure, add murder to one of their many crimes that the hutt sends bounty hunters after them for. Then later when they need to return to tatooine (same place) to take out the hutt, hustle up a big deal about nobody wanting to cooperate with them over the murder, along with there be a well statted bounty hunters waiting for them to return back/csi going over the crime scene

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>>33515245
>csi
>Star Wars CSI
Oh boy.

>Looks like the Ugly's strike foil broke off and bisected this pedestrian. Shoddy construction on that fighter if you ask me.
>I guess that's why proper starfighter companies don't just wing it.

>> No.33515908

>>33515245
Tatooine really doesn't have that organized law. Troopers wouldn't care, and the Hutt already has bounties on them. Just have the citizens recognizing them for being untrustworthy.

>>33515804
Uggh, that was just painful.

>> No.33516000

>>33513786
>Admiral Brawn

>> No.33516006

>>33515908
What sort of financial documents do publicly-traded starfighter companies publish? Incom statements.

>> No.33516075

>>33515908
What, are you really telling me the local garrison won't care that their main supplier of electronics got KO'd, meaning that their helmet fans won't be working anymore? Furthermore, they killed a man that was responsible for paying most of the bribes to the local officer (forget his name, lieutenant dude?)
Shits going down. Not to mention they will within 24 hours of killing the shop owner shoot down atleast one, most likely more tie fighters while escaping offworld
>>33516006
I am now imagining the HD remake of kotor 1, starring DARTH MALAKKA and his big fat greek wedding

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What do you call a galactic conqueror from an ocean world? Grand Admiral Prawn.

What do you get when a certain Chiss gets his portrait sketched? Grand Admiral Drawn.

What do you call a Chiss who happens to be good at ball games? Grand Admiral LeBrawn.

Why did the Jedi encourage rookies to learn basic accounting? They wanted one who could bring balance to the Force.

What do you call a Sith Lord who is swimming in whores? Darth Playa

What sort of things to fighter jocks like to invest in? Wedge funds.

Who is the greatest gardener to ever come out of Corellia? Hedge Antilles.

>> No.33516219

>>33516170
K'AARLOS!

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>>33516219
What stealthy Sith Lord had a thing for hiding in boxes? Darth Crate.

What sort of jokes do spice miners tell? Kessel Puns.

What terrible order of Sith was responsible for keeping the old Sith Empire fed? The Bread Masters.

Which ocean worlder in the galaxy has the highest net worth? Quarren Buffett

Where does Derek Klivian go to purchase miniatures for his tabletop gaming? At a Hobbie shop

What famous Force-sensitive musician was known for using laser-eye droids? The Artist Formerly Known as Jedi Prince

If Edgar Allan Poe had discovered Star Wars, he would have written a poem called 'The Revan'.

What did Darth Revan say about the idea of Sith galactic conquest? 'Nevermore'.

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>>33516170
>>33516397
dads please go

>> No.33516514

>>33514148
It's fun, right up until some spunky rebel fires a pair of proton torpedoes into an access shaft that leads directly to the main reactor because some engineer was too lazy to lock it back down after using it, causing the entire megastructure to go up in a massive explosion.

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>>33516483
>dads
Why are there no Pepsi machines in Imperial military bases? Because Vader prefers Choke.

>> No.33516773

>>33514748
IIRC 200 is basically the hard limit. a 180 yearold is talked about as being full of cybernetics and STILL on death's door. so I'd put that at about 90 equivalent.
an average, middle class human would probably make it to ~140 or so.
it's also said that a guy who really works at is can be combat effective up to roughly 100 years old (so figure that for sixtyish)

>> No.33516970

>>33516773
>roughly 100 years old
>Team Adumar still has about twenty years of ass-kicking left in them by the second GCW
Well, that certainly opens up plenty of opportunities for the Imperial sequel to Rogues' Gallery.

On a side note, would the Imperial Knights have any knowledge of classical lightsaber forms? Would the NJO allow them access to such knowledge and if not, how else might they find out about that? Convenient holocron? Or would they just say 'Fuck it' and start their own saber schools with pazaak and hookers?

>> No.33516995

>>33516555
I hate you so much and I can't even post my Robo Leia edit because I'm posting from my phone right now.

>> No.33516998

>>33514148
I'm actually planning for my group to come across this in the unknown regions. Half the crew dead from idiocies in design, and the other half warring, and a desperate admiral looking for any help he can get.

>> No.33516999

>>33516773
Palleon was military leader in his 90.

>> No.33517187

>>33513786

I don't like the Presence hit for careers and specializations that favor Cool over Vigilance, though it's not hard to buy the Presence up to a 2 during chargen.

>> No.33517387

>>33516970
>NJO
M8, the Imperial Knights are (probably) the bastard child of the Sword of the Jedi and Not-Tie-Fighter-Thrawn aka Fel, which means they have whatever knowledge you want

>> No.33517410

>>33516999
exactly. so that would be about the same as a early sixties general IRL, and there have been plenty of those
>>33516970
more like 40 years, man GCW 2 is actually BEFORE rogue's gallary. if you mean the war that kicks off legends, some of the rogues might actually still be alive for that (hell, luke could feasibly live that long IN FIGHTING CONDITION because jedi get a good 50% increase in lifespan, so being fight-capable at 150 is a distinct possibility)

>> No.33517427

>>33515243

Given that most fights are balanced with having a murder-monster wookiee in the party as well, you may actually want to tone down some of the later encounters.

>> No.33517441

>>33516773

To be honest that's stupid considering their semi magical tech.

Billionaires should be able to live for centuries.

>> No.33517444

>>33517410
*kicks of legacy era

>> No.33517476

>>33517441
I feel like 200 is pretty much a biological hard limit for humans in the SWU, and the lodsofemone=live forever is really a hard-sci-fi invention that doesn't really have a place in star wars

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>>33517476
Wookiepedia gives 300 as upper limit of human lifespan without force shenanigans.

>> No.33517971

>>33517779
so thats why there were those random flying animals on kamino

neat

>> No.33518063

>we will never get a paradox grand strategy game set during the Imperial Civil war/after endor, letting you choose to play as Zsinj, Pestage, Krefey, Alderaan remnants or your random one sector moff/admiral/hutt/thing of the week
Feels bat, man

>> No.33518282

>>33518063
There was dude working on Star Wars mod for CK2, but he abandoned project.

So unless /tg/ does it there won't be.

>> No.33518296

>>33518063

Well, at least we have ICW. The peeps who made it did a really good job, considering the engine they had to work with.

>> No.33518334

>>33518296
ICW?

>> No.33518346

>>33518296
It's good, but it's a wholly different type of game, you know?

>> No.33518377

>>33518334

Imperial Civil War. A mod for Empire at War. http://www.moddb.com/mods/thrawns-revenge

>>33518346

Oh, I fully agree. I'd love something more in the 4X / Grand strategy genre instead of RTS, but that's what we seem to get in Star Wars instead.

>> No.33518435

New thread, folks.

>>33518410
>>33518410
>>33518410

>> No.33520155

>>33514429
>>33514472
But it was a good joke story.

You're supposed to laugh because you know his plan is doomed.

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