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[ERROR] No.32840418 [DELETED]  [Reply] [Original] [4plebs] [archived.moe]

Come, /tg/, and repent for your sins!

I start voice acting threads and bump them with requests until the ball starts rolling. I never even use the lines, I just like to hear how people interpret the things I want them to say.

>> No.32840628

>>32840418
I once added 30gp to my starting gold so I could buy a lute.

>> No.32840719

>>32840418
I don't even play traditional games

>> No.32840755

>>32840418
I keep browsing and browsing all game finder threads.

All of the games listed there seem to be so bad I lost all faith in a good /tg/ game long ago.

>> No.32840772

I'm a big figure in a /tg/ homebrew, but I constantly samefag and quote my own posts to make myself feel important.

>> No.32840775

>>32840719
...Jack?

>> No.32840827

>>32840775
...nope, I'm Luca

>> No.32840848

>>32840418
I don't play traditional games, I just come here because I like the idea of playing traditional games.
Also I'm a furry.

>> No.32840849

>>32840418
I DM 3.5/PF
And even worst
I allow all kind of nice things to martials to the point people would call weeaboo

>> No.32840868

>>32840418
I'm the one who tries to put lizard people into every worldbuild.

>> No.32840890

>>32840848
So do I
Not a furry though

>> No.32840892

I didn't use a coaster once

>> No.32840896

The first quest I posted in closed down after 6 threads because edgyfags made the qm cry for not following character history. ... I played both sides against each other by samefagging, and now I can't even enjoy quests unless I'm ThatGuy.

>> No.32840926

Rolled 75

>>32840775

A Jack here who does this. Which city?

>> No.32840929

>>32840418
I sometimes visit other boards

>> No.32840992

>>32840418
I accidentally started religious debates and intrusion of lolis into settings

>> No.32841023

>>32840418
I started a Monk quest which got a bunch of interest and never continued beyond the first session because I have commitment issues.

>> No.32841132

>>32840418
I run civ threads in the hopes that one day more people with get into it, make their own and/or play in them. .

I also like to see the day that an overlord quest will finish and not stop before it begins.

>> No.32841192

When I'm feeling depressed, I shitpost on /tg/ and tell people their ideas are bad to try and manipulate them into feeling as bad as I am. Then I feel like a monster for making the innocent cry And so the cycle continues until I figure out how to amputate these bad feels

>> No.32841582

>>32841132
You represent much of what I believe a hero would be like

>> No.32841623

I use RPGs to act out my fantasies of being a girl. The thing is no one knows because my fantasies are pretty mundane and not slutty

>> No.32841642

>>32840848
Are you me?

>> No.32841824

I'm ripping off Ankama's World of 12 setting/lore for a campaign I'm GMing, just slightly adjusting the races and inserting some other stuff.

Like Dark Souls stuff.

I might be a bad person, I'm not sure anymore.

>> No.32841847

>>32840896

You did good, anon. You did God's work, even...

>> No.32841878

I only hang out for the hfy threads

>> No.32841921

>>32840418
and i put in my own if i knew how to add a spoiler tag

>> No.32841969

>>32841623
I go so far as when I play online with people I don't know in real life I allow them to assume I am in fact female.

>> No.32842016

>>32840418
Dear /tg/, I have been taking Animu shits who frankly have been doing rp wrong, and introducing them to crunch and narrative rpgs. I've introduce at least 3 'That Guys' into gaming with these.....these accursed hands. One of them is a girl for whom if a critical scene didn't go her way immediately bursts into tears due to other issues. The other gal has only locked onto narrative games, so jesus fucking christ you all get to deal with this monster. The third is a Chamoro 40K fanatic for which I have no regrets; this motherfucker is an engine of beauty that makes all my other sins worth it. I dragged him to d&d and MOTW and engine games, so really my sinning is in reverse; I have taken a pure 40K monster and debased him with pure weak shit. I know I have committed sins against the community. Is there amends?

>> No.32842036

>>32841878
/k/ also has been enjoying them, recently they've even made some oc of their own.

I build worlds that never see use because I fear GMing and sucking

>> No.32842046

>>32841921
Put "" before and "" after the text you're trying to spoiler

>> No.32842048

>>32841921
Highlight, control-s.

>> No.32842074

>>32840418
I play a homosexual in every game I play.

>> No.32842078

>>32842046
Dammit, it didn't show up.
Put (no spaces) [ spoiler ] and [ /spoiler ] before and after your text, respectively

>> No.32842116

>>32840827

Are you italian?

>> No.32842153

I had to look up how to use the spoiler function.

>> No.32842165

OK think i got this right anyways would like to write some storys but my spelling and grammers shit so i don't also have no idea how to put a image in a reply or how to save one

>> No.32842187

>>32840418

I go out of my way to pick systems I know my friend's GF won't be able to do what she wants to with any level of effectiveness

>> No.32842207

>>32842165

I find that hard to believe.

>> No.32842208

>>32842165
>Click on the post number you're replying to
>Click 'choose file'
>Choose the image you want to reply with

>> No.32842253

>>32842208
And i have no idea how to save it to a file where a file is how to make shure i wont lose it at some point

>> No.32842267

I have shitting upon 4E since they day it came out, but I've never actually learned, or even read, its rules before a couple of weeks ago. Now I think it's good, to the point of being clearly superior to 3E. I'm going to do the same for D&D Next and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

>> No.32842271

>>32842253
You're too fucking young for 4chan.

>> No.32842274

>>32842253
Open the image and right click, then hit "save as"

>> No.32842278

>>32842253
>>32842271
I actually though he's too old...

>> No.32842291

>>32842278
Thing i would ask is how did you learn too do it?

>> No.32842302

>>32840719
Did the same for about a year or so, before joining my university's society.

>> No.32842335

>>32842267
We're both pure shitwads. Except 4E isn't superior. But 13th Age surely in the fuck is, and it's 4E powered. The volcano of shit and ignoring I will drop without merit on 5E already exists.

>> No.32842347

>>32842116
yes

>> No.32842352

I'm a massive dwarfaboo

>> No.32842375

>>32842347

Me too! What were the odds?!

How come you are here if you don't play?

>> No.32842400

>>32842335

I don't even really enjoy it anymore: shitting on the new edition is just something I know I must do.

>> No.32842429

>>32842400
I've just been shitting on DnD in general.
I still play 4e though once in a blue moon

>> No.32842447

>>32842165

I hard that find to believe!

>> No.32842489

>>32842375
I've actually found others in the years

I was just looking for pdfs to read but became addicted to /tg/'s stories

>> No.32842503

I hate how /tg/ tends to pat itself on the back for it's inability to stay on topic or take their fetishes to /d/.
It's like sitting at a table with a whole bunch of That Guys that fellate each for being annoying cunts.

>> No.32842508

Every time I post in a threat I'm either ignored or I killed the thread.I have ERP'd in WOW multiple times. I even met the person I ERP'd with when I went to visit them in a different country...

>> No.32842561

>>32842508
The person I ERP'd on WoW is now my girlfriend. We're having a child next week.

>> No.32842628

>>32842503
Then fuck off. Nobody wants you here, mate. On a similar topic
I hate people who say 'take your fetishes to /d/ who have clearly never actually been to /d/.

>> No.32842681

>>32841192
I always thought fucks like you existed, now I'm sure.

I revolt at the fact that the most numerous and popular thread on /tg/ are about tits or fetishes just under a bannable offense.
But then I realize those are the threads I find most interesting anyway.

Captcha: passions itynalyn
I agree captcha.

>> No.32842684

>>32840418

Five years and 10 months ago, I was walking home at 3am after a night out drinking. Some guy in a hoodie tried to rob me with a knife. I was young and stupid and drunk, so I fought him instead of giving him my wallet. After getting sliced on the thigh and bicep, I got control of the weapon. In a blind panic and rage, I stabbed him in the chest three times. Blood was everywhere. I didn't know what to do. Should I call the police? Or an ambulance? What if they didn't believe me? I watched his pupils dilate and cloud over when he died.

The first thing I dumped in the river was his body, then I wiped down the knife before throwing it in with my bloody clothing. I walked home in my boxers and undershirt, stitched my cuts with fishing line, and crawled into bed drunk and afraid.

The next day I saw it on the news. No suspects.

I think about the incident all the time. I tell myself that I killed in self defense. That it wasn't my fault. That it was him or me.

But you know what? I kind of liked it. Sometimes I think about what it would be like to stab someone again.

And it scares me.

I have never told this story to a living soul.

>> No.32842687

>>32842429

I also very frequently shit on GURPS, even if I think it's a perfectly valid system.

Instead I really hate Classic World of Darkness.

>> No.32842689

>>32842628
I've been to /d/. That's where all your ERPing and what not should go.
/tg/ stand for Traditional Games and not 'indulging in grognard's sexual fantasies'.
So you fuck off and take your masturbation somewhere else.

>> No.32842706

>>32842684

Yeah? Once I stole candy from a baby!

>> No.32842709

>>32842689
>/tg/
>Vanilla as fuck
>Hates dickgirls
>Goes on /d/
Oh you're so funny, mate.

>> No.32842717

>>32841623
max?

>> No.32842725

>>32842687

I play GURPS almost exclusivly, but still shitpost about in on /tg/.

>> No.32842729

>>32842709
How new are you?

Come on.

>> No.32842732

>>32840418
My first RPG character was an assassin with a Katana
He carried half the head of an enemy in his pouch for like a week or so.

>> No.32842734

>>32842709
There's more than one board dedicated to porn here, /d/-lite is what gets thrown around here.
So no matter what you jerk off to it does not belong on /tg/.

>> No.32842749

I started browsing /tg/ long before I started playing any traditional games.

Arguably I still don't, as I've never played a PnP in my life, I just play MtG now.

>> No.32842755

I'm forever DM because I hate everything other people come up with. I grin and bear it because I have no other choice.

>> No.32842781

>>32840827
Do you live on the second floor? Upstairs from me?

Yes, I think I've seen you before.

>> No.32842790

>>32840418
I used to always have a few beers with my friends and slept at the GMs house. His 15 year old sister used to let me throat fuck her when every one else was sleeping.

>> No.32842796

>>32842755
>tfw when i have an unquenchable thirst for D&D (i'm still kinda new to it, and it's pretty damn fun)
>tfw when only in one campaign, even though my friend group has like 3~4 going on because i don't like any of the other ones

>> No.32842798

>>32842734
>Doesn't belong on /tg/
Clearly, moot and the mods disagree, meaning your opinion is worth exactly as much as your arsehole.

>> No.32842823

I am super jelly about the fact that my fellow player got a cool backstory sidequest and It was obviously discussed privately between him and our gm.

I have no idea how to approach my gm about that. I can't just tell him that I want a cool PC transition too but I don't even know how

>> No.32842856

>>32840868
Manta?

>> No.32842872

Evry game I DM, there is a dominant lesbian NPC who needs no man. I not always inform the players about her preferences or such.
No matter who or what, she always end up being liked by the players.

>> No.32842895

I DM games online. Not ERPGs, just normal games. I still always convince players, individually, to play out the sexual scenes that we fade to black in game, then I reveal to them they were playing a ERPG all along. I've successfully turned over twelve players to the lewd side by now.

>> No.32842917

>>32840418
I was once, at the behest of my pal, part of a short-lived forum RP that was pretty shoddily done. Playerbase was like 8 people max. I told one of the mods to go fuck himself and left the site after he kicked me from the IRC channel for no discernable reason other than to be "lol randumb xDDDDD".

The site closed down without word, warning or reason days later. I feel responsible. But I do not feel guilty.

>> No.32842929

>>32842781
>Upstairs from me?
this can't be possible...
do you live in Rome?

>> No.32842937

I coerced a player into having sex with me fairly regularly. I think she was abused as a kid or something because she always cried.

>> No.32842985

>>32842895
where do I go for the subtle lewd games?

I want lewd.

>> No.32843013

>>32842985
I'mma start a lewd game soon...Stay tunned for the gamefinder threads

>> No.32843028

>>32840719
[/spoiler]So you're a questfag?[/spoiler]

>> No.32843029

>>32842872
So you have subtle gay characters with strong personalities whose sexuality not always come up in game to be rubbed at people's face?

8/10 would play with

>> No.32843037

My irc group got together once after we'd been playing together for years. I fucked the GM.

>> No.32843077

>>32840418
I go into rule argument threads and give arguments for both sides, insult everybody and post offensive macros

I also give advice in 40k thread, only that I played 3 times in my life. People seem to love my advice

>> No.32843085

I have over 400 dollars worth of books for 3.5 and pathfinder and I don't even know how to play the right way. I post on craigslist looking for a team to help me learn.

>> No.32843092

>>32843013
Not the other guy, but will do.
What system?

Also, confession:

I'm a regular on /erp/. Not anyone like Marzipan, but I post profiles sometimes.

>> No.32843112

>>32843077
Giving advice on rules you haven't played with? Shitty move.

>> No.32843116

There are times when I legitimitely hate my friends as players.

I have twisted rules in the name of punishing players or allowing a player whose position I favored in an arguement win.

I once had a crush on one of my players' sister, who showed up for two or three sessions before quitting due to not being able to stand some of the guys at the table.

>> No.32843120

>>32842781
Thanks anon, now I'm stuck with the song.

>>32842684
You had no choice man. Fucker had it coming and deserved it. Killing in self defense is A-OK in my book if they wanted to murder you.

>>32842046
Kek

>> No.32843122

>>32842798
Clearly, moot and the mods agree that /tg/ is a Worksafe board. Meaning posting pornographic images are against the rules while bodies of text are fine, to my understanding. But hiding behind some bullshit "it's not images" rationalization doesn't make you any less of a cancer.

>>32842937
That would make you a rapist.

>> No.32843126

I made a quest for the purpose of showing how shitty quests can be. I railroaded the shit out of it by samefagging and quit in the middle of the fourth or fifth thread because I got board. I laugh now when questfags have used it as an example of a good quest. Pic has my quest on it.

>> No.32843130

>>32843122
>That would make you a rapist.
I'm not sure where I said otherwise.

>> No.32843147

>>32843126
God I miss Evil Overlord Quest.

Oh, and Norsca Quest. Those both were actually pretty good and just vanished.

>> No.32843307

>>32843130
>coerces a player into sex
>she cried every time
>must have been abused as a child, not crying because she was being coerced, aka raped
>subject exhibits no sign of remorse whatsoever.

>> No.32843309

I sometimes participate in arguments supporting a side I personally despise, so that I can see how long it takes before people claim I'm a troll, and hone my grasp of their arguments and mindset in the process.

>> No.32843338

>>32843307
Well you'd think she'd get used to it or something. God, it was just an hour or two of her time twice a week or so.

>> No.32843409

>>32843122
I wish they would have kept up with the "no fapfiction" line like back then they banned the maidquest faggot.

>> No.32843419

>>32843338
>Hour or two
You wish.

>> No.32843438

>>32843419
Well I was hardly going to go just once, I was young.

>> No.32843450

>>32843409
Wouldn't that be just grand? Certainly would increase the overall quality of the board.

>>32843338
>>>/b/
Clearly you tapped the wrong board.

>> No.32843454

>>32843450
It's /tg/ related.

>> No.32843462

>>32843438
Didn't the constant bawling give you the faintest impression that "maybe this was a bad idea"?

>> No.32843477

I argued with my GM about being backattacked by a giant frog because I hated his setting.

>> No.32843507

>>32843462
No? I just kinda chalked it up to her having issues.

Some chicks cry during sex, whaddya do.

>> No.32843519

>>32843507
Am I the only one who considers people crying for no apparent reason to be a bad thing?

>> No.32843531

>>32843507
>Some chicks cry during sex
Well... No ?

>> No.32843550

>>32843507
>Some chicks cry during sex
not when it's consensual
usually

>> No.32843560

>>32843519
I always found chicks pretty when they cry, so between the two of us, yes.
>>32843531
Well, in my experience, yes. And I'm sure I've heard something about crying in conjunction with sex.

>> No.32843573

>>32843550
Still happens sometimes, which is why I figured it was her having intimacy issues or something.

>> No.32843581

>>32843560
>I always found chicks pretty when they cry,
That explains much.

>> No.32843599

>>32843560
>I always found chicks pretty when they cry, so between the two of us, yes.
You have problems.

Very bad problems. Go sit over there while we discuss what do to with you.

>> No.32843605

>>32843560
was it crying or more like massing up a bit of tears?
because it change quite something

>> No.32843609

>>32843560
Crying the first time or so is fairly common I'd say. Crying everytime ? Not so much.

>> No.32843611

>>32843560
>And I'm sure I've heard something about crying in conjunction with sex.
Was what you heard "that a female crying during coitus is most likely the sign of emotional trauma coming to the surface, or at least extremely sub-par performance on behalf of her partner"?

>> No.32843619

>>32843581
>>32843599
Are you honestly saying you don't feel the same way? 'Specially when the makeup runs?

>> No.32843631

>>32843619
People crying is normally a sign that something is wrong.
So no.

>> No.32843633

>>32843611
>or at least extremely sub-par performance on behalf of her partner"?
Wouldn't she be laughing instead ?

>> No.32843646

>>32843619
Yes.

In fact, I tend to stop fucking them if they cry. Hell I don't like to be near a woman when she cries.

Especially when there's metal around.

>> No.32843649

>>32843619
not the guys you replied to but
no
especially when the makeup runs

>> No.32843650

>>32843633
REALLY sub-par performance, y'know beyond the point of amusement and exasperation.

>> No.32843651

>>32843619
>Are you honestly saying you don't feel the same way? 'Specially when the makeup runs?
Anon, I'm into some fucked up shit, and the only moment I want to see makeup running is because she's choking on my dick during a scene. If she's crying out of sadness, that's an instant boner deflation trigger.

>> No.32843671

>>32843646
>Especially when there's metal around.
Explain?

>> No.32843675

>>32843605
Hm. It fluctuated over time. Early on she actually sobbed quite a bit, and then she was silent about it, and then she just teared up a little, and then she went back to sobbing. This was over a year or so. Why?
>>32843609
Well, that casts quite a few... interactions I've had in a certain light.
>>32843611
The former, I think.

>> No.32843680

>>32840892
You monster

>> No.32843689

>>32843650
Damn I can imagine
>for the last time you're hurting me, that's my peehole

>> No.32843694

>>32843671
Ever have a frying pan thrown at yah?

>> No.32843698

ITT: anon pretends to be a rapis, internet white knights swiftly rise to the occasion

>> No.32843700

>>32843631
People often cry when they're happy, too.

Hell, pain makes me laugh, so pleasure making someone cry isn't too odd.

>> No.32843701

>>32843689
That and "No, I'm over here."

>> No.32843707

>>32843631
Chicks cry all the time for all kinds of reasons though.
>>32843649
>>32843651
Huh, you guys are weird. I've always found it pretty hot.

>> No.32843727

>>32843700
Then what made you think she has issues?

>> No.32843730

>>32843701
>No anon, that's the pillow.

>> No.32843753

>>32843727
I'm not that anon, I dunno.

>> No.32843754

>>32843694
I see. I thought it was something to do with magnetism.

>> No.32843755

I started and currently maintain a Kill la Kill CYOA series and admitted my willingness to crawl through Satan's fiery butthole in order to be with Satsuki.

>> No.32843761

>>32840418
I just watched Don Jon and I fucking loved it.

>> No.32843766

I hang out in the 40k armylists threads and give people advice.

I haven't played since 5th edition

>> No.32843767

>>32843727
Different guy, mang. She didn't seem to be doing happy crying, and she looked like she was mentally somewhere else. Or at least trying to be, or something. I dunno, just got that feeling.

>> No.32843774

ITT: Confessions about wrongdoings are derailed by That Guy The Rapist's ramblings.

>> No.32843776

>>32843707
>Person is sad
>Person is getting dicked, but doesn't enjoy.
>Person is practically a cocksleeve that barely interacts.
>Person has damages that influence your sex.
>Only when at their most vulnerable, these damages come out.
>I've always found it pretty hot.

You disgust me. And I don't mean that in an angry way, anon. Just as a factual statement.

>> No.32843788

>>32843767
I think I already know the answer to this, but was that enough to make you stop?

>> No.32843801

>>32840418
I love the Sisters of Battle because I like strong independent womyn, and consider myself pro-feminist..

>> No.32843838

>>32843774
in the meanwhile the murderer is ignored and 2 Italians found that they are not alone on /tg/

lets see how far this can go

>> No.32843841

>>32843801

>sisters of battle
>in any way, shape, or form feminist

there's a reason women don't play that shitty army, idiot

>> No.32843851

>>32843776
Well, she interacted sorta every so often.

Like "you're hurting me" or that time she kinda sobbed "I hate you". I'm not an asshole, she just refused to extrapolate.

She also kinda pushed at me early on.
>>32843788
In the middle of sex, and she's pretty attractive. Would you?

>> No.32843875

>>32843851
Uh, YEAH I'd stop. IMO it's a bad sign that you, as a human being, have to ask me that.

>> No.32843892

>>32843851
>Well, she interacted sorta every so often.
Good run anon, but you're laying it on to thick now. Please stop exposing us as the marginally functioning human beings that we are when we're not being internet tough guys on edge.

>> No.32843894

>>32843875
Does it count that I asked her what the deal was afterwards?

>> No.32843897

>>32843801
Don't be a mangina. 3rd wave feminism is shit beyond sanity.
>>32843841
Oh look, somebody has a bag of dicks lodged in his anus.

>> No.32843906

>>32843851
the more you talk the more it sounds like rape, you know?
>Steven lichman,jpg

>> No.32843908

>>32843894
Why couldn't you have stopped and asked her then?

>> No.32843913

>>32843892
>Please stop exposing us as the marginally functioning human beings that we are when we're not being internet tough guys on edge.
What does that even mean?

>> No.32843927

>>32843698
This guy knows what's up.

>> No.32843945

>>32843913
It means this: >>32843698

>> No.32843953

>>32843908
Well I was pretty close. Can you blame me?

She didn't even answer when I asked, she just said "fuck you", got dressed, and staggered off.
>>32843906
Does it really count as rape if she never outright refused?

>> No.32843968

>>32843945
Hey, after a guy said he killed a dude I figured we were kind of confessing to actual things we've done.

>> No.32843969

>>32840418
I think Tau and Orkz are the only good things to come out of 40k.

I like to add things /tg/ thinks are magical realm and/or furry to my settings, despite not having a fetish for them or being a furry.

I think dwarf fortress is put together poorly and could use a lot of work making it more accessible to people who don't have autism.

I would help horsefuckers with stuff on that MLP card game if they came here. I'm not a brony, but they tend to be pretty nice people so I don't give a fuck.

I think the spread of TRPGs and the like into mainstream culture is a good thing, and that the social stigma tied to nerdy things isn't bad because it's mean, but because it creates a society of entitled nerds who think they're better than others and part of some secret club. I also think the people who bitch about women and "normalfags" playing RPGs and vidya are aware of it and scared they'll be ostracized because they don't know how social networks work.

>> No.32843991

>>32842561
I second life my way into a relationship. Been together 4 years. Have a daughter together

>> No.32843993

>>32843968
You mean after a guy posted copypasta about murdering someone, you thought you'd try your hand at baiting.

>> No.32844006

>>32843993
Wait, that was pasta? I've been here for years and I've never seen it.

>> No.32844016

>>32843969

I think you`re the only sane person on this entire board.

>> No.32844027

>>32843953
You're just stringing us along now.

>> No.32844036

i like space marines

>> No.32844037

>>32840418
I _constantly_ cheat during Pathfinder sessions, either by palming rolls before my GM can see them (he trusts me) or by bending obscure rules no one likes to look up. I do so control the flow of battles or shift spotlight around. Sometimes I make my own rolls worse so another player can save me/the day. Sometimes I make them better to defuse situations I know my party couldn't handle with me performing poorly. I play a secondline melee / supportcaster, and I do so because I have control issues. I have no regrets.

>> No.32844040

>>32844006
I've either seen it or something incredibly similar while going through threads on sup/tg/.

>> No.32844050

>>32840926
dont know if you still here.. but I you are its Iain

>> No.32844056

>>32844037
So basically you're a secret co-DM the DM doesn't know about?

>> No.32844062

>>32844040
Could be a coincidence. Or the same guy twice.

>> No.32844064

>>32844027
I'm answering questions from people who are pretending they've not done worse.
This is a confession thread. I confessed. Sue me.
>>32844040
Checked on foolz and didn't find anything.

>> No.32844083

>>32843507
My go cries after sex if I go the forced or gas route. First time freaked me out, now it's a badge of pride.

>> No.32844089

>>32840418
When I GM, I have no notes, no goals, no intentions. I let my players create the world as if they are laying down tiles in a boardgame as they progress. If they go left, there'll be something on the left. If they go right, there will be an obscure hint. If I like their interpretation, something close-to-but-not-quite happens. I don't keep notes and make up names, places, social networks on the spot. As my players unveil the campaign, I unveil it to. It's like I am adventuring with them.

>> No.32844091

>>32844064
Aside from murdanon, I think you're at the top of the pile at present.

>> No.32844094

>>32840418
I have collaborated with my current DM to create a hybrid system that bridges the rules differences between 3.5 and 4e. We have tested it through trial and error over a year's worth of sessions. We have run into very few problems in terms of balance. The entire experience has been very enjoyable.

Also I almost always use my spindown d20 from the premium graveborn deck when playing D&D, despite owning a set of precision dice.

>> No.32844095

>>32844083
That's exactly what I was getting at, yeah.

>> No.32844105

I currently play a character I originally created for ERP.
Ive told a few of the players this in private.

>> No.32844115

>>32844095
Surely if she starts crying when you're doing it vanilla it means that something is wrong?

>> No.32844117

>>32844091
I don't believe that no one here has done worse. I believe the ones who have just won't admit it.

>> No.32844127

>>32844117
What'd be the point of holding back on here? No one would believe you anyway.

>> No.32844131

>>32844115
Which is why I figured she had problems.

She cried no matter where I stuck it, I dunno.

>> No.32844149

>>32844115
>>32844131
Would you fucking stop responding to a trell? You people are so gullible.

>> No.32844151

>>32844127
So as to avoid what happened to me for telling the truth ITT.

>> No.32844153

>>32844131
Then why did you keep doing it?

>> No.32844155

>>32844056
Basically, yes. i am, incidientially, also the second-line GM of our group. When our forever GM takes a break, I'm up. It probably doesn't help that I don't need to know the material he is working with, but more or less find out instantly what's going on. It does help that I am playing a zealous guy from the Inquisition, so I can blame it all on divine insight and play it off as being right by chance, not by deduction and manipulation in the metalayer. I do believe I am making it a better game for the others, though - by activating passive players and giving them situations to shine and by cushioning blows that'd endanger party members. I keep track of my party's hp, dispense healing and sort-of-coerce people to share their resources so noone suffers. I am also the appointed loot master, as in, I get the loot list from the GM, write up what we have, assign items based on highest efficiency, sell off the rest off-camera and dispense coins fairly split. I wouldn't trust anyone else with such tasks.

>> No.32844166

I'm a complete doormat in one place. PDF threads. Rarely are my requests fulfilled, but I contribute nonetheless.
Also, I've stopped trying to spoiler things because I can't be bothered to find out the proper way and it rarely comes up.

>> No.32844188

>>32844153
Because the sex was enjoyable?

>> No.32844223

>>32840418
I once wrote a really good series of posts that I started a thread with. It only got a few replies before dying so I went back to foolz and screencapped it myself. I repost it whenever it seems relevant. It's moderately popular now.

I bite on bait all the time, because I wish we had more threads like the TG of old, which started with 'slutty furry what do' and ended with economic debate about Russia.

>> No.32844247

I've ran around 6 quests and abandoned all of them but one, where I gave a bad end on thread 6 due to frustration that the only people present for that thread were 3 guys trying to kill the MC. The first one was a big hit, easily ~20 posts between updates, that made 10 threads before I dropped it without a word and since then I feel a sting of indignation when its clear there are only about 5 people reading me. Of course I don't even deserve five people.

I promised the return of my first quest when some anons guessed who i was a year later from some stuff I said, but its been months since then and I haven't followed up.

I'm currently smitten with a new quest Idea and will probably run it eventually, even though I know ill only kill it later.

>> No.32844269

>>32844151
Fair enough, I suppose, but no-one's really bothering murdanon about what he did, so you can't use that argument all the time.

>> No.32844291

>>32844269
I bet if he killed a girl they would.

>> No.32844312

>>32840418
I really don't like quest threads, usually, because I don't like the way they are written. One day, I hijacked a thread about a drunken pirate captain and made it a pirate quest. When people started playing it, I felt rewarded and happy. Now I feel like I have been unfair to some quest threads and wonder if I should try again.

I really liked Swamp Quest.

>> No.32844328

>>32844247
...Norsca Quest? 'Cuz if that's you I'm going to come to your house and fuck you in the ass. I rolled like a god for that last roll!

>> No.32844342

>>32844291
Probably. If it was still in self-defence, maybe not, but if we had some serial killer confessing on here I imagine we'd listen.

>> No.32844359

>>32844342
Are you really comparing me to a serial killer?

>> No.32844407

>>32844359
No. What you did was wrong, but it wasn't as bad as that.

>> No.32844434

I actively disparage against my own posts and any posts that make me sound like a good person. Someone mentions a character of mine from AdEva or 3.5 or whatever in a thread, I'll rip the character apart. On the ERP threads I'm the one who shitposts about myself when people claim I'm good. I'm not sorry at all.

>> No.32844437

>>32844407
I never claimed it was GOOD, otherwise I'd not be confessing it.

>> No.32844473

>>32844437
I suppose that is a good sign.
Would you do it again?

>> No.32844516

>>32844473
It's hard to say. I stopped when she tried to kill herself, which I still feel kind of bad about. But on the other hand I really enjoyed it at the time.

I don't want to be responsible for someone dying, so I'm leaning towards no. But there's the possibility.

>> No.32844517

>>32844328

nope

deity quest, and I remembered wrong it was 9 threads.

>> No.32844532

>>32844517
I remember that quest! Man, I was so bummed when you left.

>> No.32844570

>>32844516
...You're scum.

>> No.32844583

>>32844570
I'll freely admit I'm selfish, but that's pretty harsh.

>> No.32844615

>>32844583
I'd hate to see what you would be upset over.

>> No.32844696

>>32840418
I play regularly at a FLGS and we have monthly tournaments. I'm the second best player with my IG army and there's this faggot everybody hates because he has 3-4 riptides every game. He's building an eldar army now.
Before last tournament, between battles he left a part of his army for some new guy to try out. When nobody was looking I took one neatly painted riptide and hid it in the toilet, then came back for it when it was safe. Everyone blamed the new guy. The riptide went for 40$ on ebay

>> No.32844704

>>32840418
I samefag on my quest so I people can think its active and be more likely to post

>> No.32844747

I only come here for the art threads and whenever I need inspiration for my writing. /tg/ has made me want to pick up Magic again, though.

Somehow...

>> No.32844755

While taking my eyes off the road in order to light a cigarette, I ran over a child. I washed the hair and blood off my car and I never told anyone.

>> No.32844768

>>32844583
>Harsh
No, it's the least a subhuman piece of trash like you deserves. You are scum. You are worthless human garbage that deserves nothing but pain and death and misery. Go die in a fucking fire, you psychopathic animal.

>> No.32844779

>>32844615
Things that negatively affect me, generally. I just don't care that much about other people.

Look, the story basically goes that I kinda sorta threatened her into doing it, and she believed me, and it went on for like a year and a half.

The other players started asking me what was up with her, because she was acting all funny, and I always said I had no idea but I'd talk to her. Which I suppose I did in a sense. A couple times I had things happen in game in reference, to see her reaction. That was kind of a douche move, I'll admit, but again I was young.

I guess she felt like she had no way out, so she took a bunch of sleeping pills. Which I actually felt bad about. So it isn't like I'm remorseless.

>> No.32844791

>>32840418
I don't know what a coaster is

>> No.32844846

I've never played DnD, or any table top game other than MTG. I just come here for the chuckles.

>> No.32844859

>>32844779
You're a sociopath. Look, if you have the least bit of remorse, go and tell all this to a psychiatrist who'll be able to evaluate how much of a continuing danger you are to others and take steps to prevent you from hurting people.

>> No.32844885

>>32842187
Does she try to break them? If so, you're doing good work.

>>32842503
>it's inability to stay on topic
You're grammar are all wrong. You want "its" without the apostrophe, as "it's" is an abbreviation of "It is".
On a more related note, you hate the fact that it's possible to have an almost natural conversation on /tg/?

>>32842732
...half? Why only half?

>>32843851
>she kinda sobbed "I hate you"
>I'm not an asshole
These two lines are mutually exclusive.
I'll give you a hint. If the first occurs, and you don't stop, the second is false.

>>32844089
And this man is a good GM.
If your players decide they want to visit the Space Hulk on top of the enormous chunk of warpstuff underneath the city, make something be there! This actually happened during one game. No, really. I was the one who convinced everyone to head down there...

>>32844291
Some of us. Some of us would still be thinking about the "he was doing it in self-defense, it's legal and not morally wrong".

>> No.32844906

>>32844768
The fuck did I do to you?
>>32844859
Psychiatrists cost money, man. Besides, most people seem to like and trust me, I can't be doing anything too bad.

>> No.32844937

>>32844906
You almost pushed someone into fucking SUICIDE by raping her for months on end. Do you not comprehend how monstrous that is? Seriously. Psychiatrist. Fucking now.

>> No.32844947

>>32844906
Not what you did to him.

>> No.32844956

I let my players think that I write long campaigns for them when in reality I just make stuff up as we go.

>> No.32844960

>>32844885
>If the first occurs, and you don't stop, the second is false.
Let's agree to disagree. Way I saw it she was just unstable.

>> No.32844969

>>32844956
and by as we go I really do mean in the heat of the moment

>> No.32844989

>>32844906
People liked and trusted a lot of serial killers, too. You've already seriously hurt one person and there's nothing to sugget you won't do it again, or worse, and depending on what exactly your illness is you might get worse with time. Consider the psychiatry fees part of your atonement for what you did.

I think it's 99.9% likely you're baiting, but I'm assuming you're not since better safe than sorry.

>> No.32845010

>>32844906
Medical care should never be seen as an optional cost. It should be like the bills - you pay them because you need them. Mental healthcare is the same.

Check with a psychiatrist. If you don't, your actions may later come back to bite you in ways that you'll regret deeply, even if you have the worst sociopathy ever.

>> No.32845013

>>32844956
Don't feel bad about that, a highly improv-skilled DM who doesn't make up dumb railroad plots is a goddamned godsend.

>> No.32845026

>>32844937
>You almost pushed someone into fucking SUICIDE by raping her for months on end.
I stopped, didn't I?
>Do you not comprehend how monstrous that is?
Honestly? No, not really.
>Seriously. Psychiatrist. Fucking now.
Eh, I'll consider it once I'm out of med school, finances are pretty tight right now.

>> No.32845030

>>32845010
Seriously, it's in your own best interests, not just the people around you.

>> No.32845039

>>32844989
>I think it's 99.9% likely you're baiting, but I'm assuming you're not since better safe than sorry.
Ever since I was called over to /r9k/ to help save an Australian kid who drank an entire bottle of antifreeze in a very serious suicide attempt, I've adopted this policy.

>> No.32845040

>>32844779

>couple times I had things happen in game in reference, to see her reaction.

Oh for fuck's sake, you had to go and break my suspension of disbelief! Why did you have to go and ruin a perfectly good, almost believable story with a scene out of a NTR hentai?

>> No.32845053

I don't play any traditional games.I read threads about 40k fluff and gameplay and argue in list threads without ever having actually played the game.I would like to get into actually painting and playing but every time I am about to buy some miniatures I realize that this is going to turn into a big thing and I will end up spending hundreds of dollars on plastic that could have been better spent on something that will retain it's value or provide substantially more entertainment for the amount of shekels invested.

>> No.32845059

>responding to the bait

>> No.32845062

>>32844885
>On a more related note, you hate the fact that it's possible to have an almost natural conversation on /tg/?
Nope. Going slightly off topic is okay from time to time, if the conversation takes you there, but there is a point where you might as well start another thread to continue your private discussion. That people somehow think it's something to be proud of irks me. And it seem to have become a sport of some sort to derail a thread as fast as possible. Makes finding content you are actually interested in pretty tedious if you have to sift through all the other stuff first.
It's like a bunch of guys trying to play football and there are two guys start start running around with ball doing something completely different and afterwards congratulating each other for disrespecting the rules.

>> No.32845078

>>32845026
>Eh, I'll consider it once I'm out of med school, finances are pretty tight right now.
This is not a very good excuse, especially since your med school can likely help you out financially. At the very least, something as small as the co-pay for seeing a psychiatrist and getting an evaluation should be trivial for your med school.

You're training to be a medical professional. You, out of most other people, should know best how important it is to get regular checkups, even if the patient doesn't think anything's wrong.

>> No.32845082

>>32844947
Well he seems very personally affronted.
>>32844989
I'm not a killer, I don't think. I mean, I can understand why someone would, but is it really worth all the hassle?
>You've already seriously hurt one person and there's nothing to sugget you won't do it again
I've never done anything quite like that again, though it depends on what you define as hurting people.
>>32845010
Told you man, money doesn't exactly grow on trees. Maybe in a few years.

>> No.32845092

>>32845026
At least tell your parents. Assuming you have a normal family relationship, they love you unconditionally, they'll stand by you, and they want what's best for you. They're the best possible people to confess to and to give you advice.

>> No.32845096

>>32845040
That's what it reminded me of!

>> No.32845102

>>32844188
I don't even know why I'm bothering to respond at this point, since there's two clear possibilities for what's going on here. I think the distant 3rd and highly unlikely possibility is why.

The "murdered someone" anon did so in self-defense. That's something any reasonable human being can understand. Same as basic empathy. You have told everyone here that you raped someone. Multiple times. With precisely zero thought to their own well-being. Continuing to do so, in fact, when she clearly was not enjoying it or was even a willing participant, which makes it rape.
>But she never said No
Still rape if she didn't want it, especially due to that keyword:
>Coerced
So despite all that, you basically treated this person as a sex puppet with no emotion
>because the sex was enjoyable?

I see three possibilities:
>You are a troll, and an ungraceful one at that. You derive no joy from life apart from inciting the rage of others and will die alone of a heart attack in your mothers basement. No one will find you for months until the neighbors call the cops complaining of the smell. Save some time and make out with a revolver
>2nd possibility: You are truly this sociopath as you have represented yourself ITT, there is no hope, kill yourself and cut this cancer right out of the planet that birthed you as a public service and penance for your misdeeds. The sooner, the better.
>3rd possibility: You've done reprehensible things to other people, and instead of taking responsibility for your actions, you have sought rationales that justify your actions retroactively by claiming others have done worse. Realize this is a logical fallacy and removes no responsibility from yourself. Admit that you've been the worst kind of person and seek help.
Final analysis: Lots of therapy, and an earnest attempt at making yourself and the world better will be your only shot at redemption on this planet or any other. But you should still probably just kill yourself.

>> No.32845103

>>32845013
thank you anon.

>> No.32845107

Sometimes if I'm struggling for a cool character name and there's no player overlap between the current group and a past group so nobody will know, I re-use names of my old characters.

>> No.32845112

>>32845026
>med school
remember folks, this monster has a chance to be *your* doctor one day.

>> No.32845126

>Murder confession
>Rape and psychological torture confessions
>some argument about healthcare

For fuck's sake /tg/. All I want is one thread that doesn't fall to pieces after a hundred posts.

>> No.32845131

>>32845040
Hm? It was usually something as small as having an NPC say something I'd said earlier. I just found it kind of funny.
I've never read an NTR hentai, infidelity isn't my thing.
>>32845078
Fine, I'll look into it. Happy?

>> No.32845147

>>32845082
>Well he seems very personally affronted.
Because I have a friend with very serious depression issues who's attempted suicide before, and I've worked very hard to bring him out of that pit. I take suicide very extremely personally.

>> No.32845152

>>32845082
I didn't say you were a killer, I'm just pointing out that the fact that your friends and acquaintances don't notice anything wrong is not a reliable indicator of your mental health.

>> No.32845174

>>32845082
>Told you man, money doesn't exactly grow on trees. Maybe in a few years.
I am well aware. You have avenues you can explore to make up that cost. Your mental health is not something you can sacrifice in terms of personal expenses until you are seriously so cash strapped that you can't contemplate going to an emergency room if you are shot (in which case there are government services to help you out).

>> No.32845186

>>32845053
Choose something cheaper.

Or make sure to get models you can use in more then one game. Like counts as IG for futuristic mooks. Of pretty much anything for fantasy if you're running a fantasy game.

>> No.32845188

My depression stems from the fact that I won't ever be put down in history for doing anything. It is rather vain, to be honest, but I just wish that for one week that people would see my face on TV, and they would think "that guy did something."

No, I don't want to go on a mass shooting. I want it to be for something good.

>> No.32845196

>>32845092
>Assuming you have a normal family relationship
I don't.
>they love you unconditionally, they'll stand by you, and they want what's best for you
Hahahaha. Noooope.
>They're the best possible people to confess to and to give you advice.
My parents are the worst possible people to give me advice.
>>32845102
I enjoy my life, so no, suicide isn't happening.

I'm not taking any pills though. Draw the line there.

>> No.32845222

>>32845131
>Fine, I'll look into it. Happy?
Yes, thank you.

Remember, it's not about how you're a wrong person, it's about how to head off consequences caused by your mental health that make you go deer-in-headlights.

>> No.32845227

>>32844956
This guy >>32844089 here. Initially, my players thought I had a plan and such, but eventually, they got on to me. since it never caused issues they are okay with it, though. If anything, they forget about it, because it doesn't matter. One of my players picked up the role of writing down the events in a sort-of-diary, and whenever we begin play, I let/make the players recall what happened last time in brief (which I blatantly use to gauge what stuck and what didn't, so I can elaborate on things they liked).

Being an improv GM requires a good knowledge of your universe and it generally helps to be able to come up with cool shit as you go along, but I find it much more rewarding than prepared GMing. Personal preference, naturally.

>> No.32845230

>>32845196
I sincerely hope you fail out of med-school and end up in crippling debt which you will never be able to pay off.

>> No.32845231

>>32845188
>No, I don't want to go on a mass shooting. I want it to be for something good.
Kill a mass shooter.

>> No.32845236

>>32844755
If joking, 10/10.
If serious, thread has a new black-knight champion.

>> No.32845247

>>32845112
Surgeon actually.
>>32845147
Ah. Well, last I heard she's doing fairly alright, though she's kind of a shut-in now. Something about her being afraid of men, which is apparently a real thing.

>> No.32845258

>>32845196
That sort of relationship with one's parents, especially if it's from an early age, is correlative with sociopathy, especially if there was any sort of abuse. If you have ANY loved ones, confess to them. If you have NO loved ones, consider that a major alarm bell in itself and go to a psychiatrist.

>> No.32845264

>come to this board to try and escape from how shit my reality is
>read this thread
>find i share a hobby with an actual, unapologetic, long term rapist

thanks, /tg/

>> No.32845281

>>32845247
>Something about her being afraid of men, which is apparently a real thing.
gee, i wonder why?

do you feel even an ounce of regret for what you've done?

>> No.32845290

>>32845247
>>Something about her being afraid of men
Gee I wonder what could have caused her to be afraid of men...surely it was not the years of rape and taunts about said rapes.

>> No.32845293

>>32845247
>Raped for years
>Afraid of men
>Suffering PTSD
YOU DON'T FUCKING SAY.

>> No.32845295

>>32845188
>tfw you will never be the first American in space

>> No.32845298

>>32845231
I want it to derive from my work, and me being there for a mass shooting that I was not informed of are astronomically low.

I have a professional degree in mechanical engineering from MIT, but I have no idea what to use it on. I was going to start a business like my dad, and with the money I got from inheritance I thought I could, but I want to actually make an impact on the world and not just be some second-rate businessman like my dad who only was popular in a circle of friends.

>> No.32845301

>>32845231
"There are lies, there are damn lies, and there are statistics."

>> No.32845302

>>32845152
That's a fair point, alright.
>>32845174
I have money, I just don't have a lot of spare money what with my expenses and habits. I'll look into it.
>>32845222
>that make you go deer-in-headlights.
I'm not sure what this means.

>> No.32845315

I'm that guy who posted the Northman thread a week or so ago. The one with the longship pic? Yeah that was me. It's not like the MGE doesn't scare me, but I just find the worldmap so empty.

>> No.32845319

I'll be honest.

>>32845230
>>32845281
You guys aren't helping.

>> No.32845337

>>32845227

>>32844956 here.
The game I run is shadowrun, and the way I do it I guess is I have a general idea of what my players want out of a game and I try and satisfy them while still tie-ing them into a story that I create as they discover it.

>> No.32845340

>>32845230
I'm doing pretty well, so I doubt it.
>>32845258
Hmm. I don't know if I love anyone, honestly. Never thought of that.
There might be people who love me, though, I'll think on it.

>> No.32845343

>>32845319
maybe if you had posted your confession on /b/ you'd get nothing but high fives and pats on the back.

>> No.32845366

>>32845188
This is remarkably easy with all the ridiculous media coverage there is out there these days.

Just wait until you're old, pick something that really pisses you off, and stage a public boycott that ends in your untimely death. Bam. Instant matyrdom. Even if it's for a stupid cause there are plenty of stupid people that will say you're such a brave mother fucker and did so much to blah blah blah.

TL;DR: People are stupid and fame is a terrible thing to have as an end goal.

>> No.32845368

I play freeform RPs, and enjoy them about 4/5 of the time

>> No.32845396

>>32845188
Find a "suicide bridge". Spend a lot of free time there. When jumpers come, do your best to talk them down - it would be best if you educated yourself about the best methods of doing so, first. Remember that most suicides are spur-of-the-moment, so it's often not as hard as you might think. If you save enough people, you'll get your name immortalized in a small way. Even if you save just one, THAT person will remember you.

>> No.32845400

>>32845281
Well, no. I do regret her trying to kill herself, there'd have been inquiries and I might have got in trouble.
>>32845290
>>32845293
It wasn't even two years! Where are you getting "years" from? It was like a year and eight-ish months.

>> No.32845416

>>32845302
The kinds of things that blindside you, where your brain takes a while in the situation to realize the magnitude of what exactly is happening to you. For instance, those with depression often times sink into depression and slowly realize that there's no way out of their situation, that the slide only goes deeper, and that their entire existence is unsalvageable. When that realization hits, often times it results in self-destructive behavior, sometimes culminating with suicide.

In short, kudos for taking a first step in managing your mental health. We tend to have a stigma that mental health is this optional thing, but we're finding out time and again that this is really not true at all.

>> No.32845422

>>32845298
>I have a professional degree in mechanical engineering from MIT
Go get a job as NASA, your name may never be in the spotlight but you would definitely help further mankind.

>> No.32845443

>>32845343
Not my confession. I just want him to see a mental health expert, not have him ragequit and NOT do that out of spite of the people in this thread.

It's like people just like shitflinging when they see someone they think is below them. Oh the humanity!

>> No.32845452

>>32845343
Shaming a sociopath or mentally ill person doesn't help anyone. We're not living in a tribe and driving him out to die in the wilderness. We want him to get treatment, for his health and the heath of those around him.

>> No.32845453

>>32844434
>>32844434

Eventually you get over yourself, Anon. Give it time. I used to be the same, and then I realised that nobody cared more than I did and stopped being a fegget.

>> No.32845454

>>32845422
Or better, SpaceX.

>> No.32845459

IT'S A RUSE DAMN IT

>> No.32845472

>>32845396
I would love for people to remember me in that light. For a family to sit down to dinner one night, and instead of remembering the empty spot where their son should be, is their son as happy as could be. I want to be a person to help others.

>> No.32845488

>>32845459
Probably. So what? There's a chance it's real, we lose nothing by treating it like it is, and maybe we actually help.

>> No.32845492

>>32845416
Hm. It's an elegant way to put it, I think.

Look, the way it is is I just don't really see other people to be important. I mean, I like people, but I generally like them because I find them useful. That's really why I fuck with people, I'm just bored in general.

How the hell could a shrink fix that?

>> No.32845493

I used to find quest threads interesting but lately I feel the have dominated the boards to the point I don't see a nonquest thread on the front page after a few refreshes.

It's basically is what drove me away from /tg/

>> No.32845501

I'm on /tg/ constantly but have only played a handful of RP games in my life. I think I could count it on one hand, it's definitely less than 10. I want to DM but I can't understand how systems work. I swear my IQ is like 5 cause I just reread and reread and it doesn't retain for shit. I will never remember how to help people set up characters, how to help them see what tricks and moves they have, how to make combat work, or anything.

I just want to tell stories to my friends, really.

>> No.32845511

>>32845422
>>32845454
I thought NASA was going belly-up, or is it getting funded again since Russia is kicking Americans out of their space expeditions?

And is SpaceX a company devoted to furthering mankind's place in space, or a certain country? I can't quite tell.

>> No.32845523

>>32845443
>>32845452
Along this note, there are a shitton of people in this world, sociopaths and other "unwanted" people included. Unless if going on a murderous rampage is on your agenda, I would seriously consider building your empathy and realizing that sometimes people just live in a different context. Not their fault, not your fault, just get it managed and move on.

I swear, this whole hero worship deal in MURRICA has caused some seriously retarded logic.

>> No.32845530

>>32845511
>And is SpaceX a company devoted to furthering mankind's place in space, or a certain country? I can't quite tell.
it is devoted to increasing its own profits

>> No.32845531

>>32845492
>Look, the way it is is I just don't really see other people to be important. I mean, I like people, but I generally like them because I find them useful. That's really why I fuck with people, I'm just bored in general.
If you are legit then that means you are a sociopath, but this is 4chan so you are probably just a retard.

>How the hell could a shrink fix that?
They don't

>> No.32845536

>>32845511
NASA has a fixed budget, I believe. A tiny budget, relative to most other government spending, but it's in no danger of going away.

>> No.32845552

>>32845531
>If you are legit then that means you are a sociopath, but this is 4chan so you are probably just a retard.
Fair 'nuff, it is 4chan.
>They don't
So why waste the money?

>> No.32845565

>>32845523
moral relativism a shit

tolerance ends where the crimes begin

>> No.32845576

>>32845492
Reduced empathy and remorse are associated with a number of different mental illnesses, not just sociopathy. There could be any number of ways to treat it. It could even potentially be indicative of something more threatening to your physical health. The internet can't diagnose you, consult a professional. You can't take risks with your health, right?

>> No.32845594

>>32845492
It's about managing your expectations with the community that you live in. Your psychiatrist is a retard if he/she decides that you should try to live like a normal person and introduces artificial stimuli.

Instead, it's about providing context so that you can adjust your actions better. You're going to think the same way you normally think because that's who you are. Fortunately, you aren't retarded, so it's easy for you to piece together the consequences of your actions. In this case, you don't have a full picture of the situation because honestly you don't have the same empathy the vast majority of other people have.

If anything, a shrink should help you fix that and realize things like "she's crying and wants to kill herself" = "you should stop now because society tends to see this as something that'll at minimum land you in jail".

>> No.32845601

>>32845565
Arrest him then, hot stuff. Me, I prefer the approach that has at least some chance of leading to a positive outcome.

>> No.32845613

>>32845511
SpaceX is resupplying the ISS for like a twelfth of what it would have costed NASA to do it, and making a massive profit doing so. Take that for what you will.

>> No.32845625

I work hours and hours on a homebrew game, get lots of interest and feel great. But then people start suggesting ideas left and right and overcomplicate the game before I finish building it and all of a sudden I need to add five more races and ten different class and all these new playstyles and just throw the whole thing away.

I just want to make a game without people trying to clutter it up until I'm finished but crave the input/attention so much I can't not ask people to check it out

>> No.32845627

>>32845530
Well that is a shame. I don't quite want to put my life into a company built upon greed, though it looks to be quite a bright company. They are pushing for colonization of Mars, which is pretty endearing to me.
>>32845536
I just want to help, and I always love the space CYOA and the RPGs about space. Perhaps, /tg/, I came to you to unwind and escape when it is actually a sign for what I should do. Maybe me coming here was a hand of fate pushing me in the right direction to give me the inspiration and pride to do something with my life.

>> No.32845635

>>32845565
Put your hero dick away. That person you'd like to shoot is someone's child, a huge emotional and financial investment that frankly you don't have the right to judge.

>> No.32845637

>>32845511
>I thought NASA was going belly-up
Obama administration approved 17billion for 2015 but cut 200million from planetary science

>>32845530
This, but that's not necessarily bad.


>>32845536
"Right now, NASA's annual budget is half a penny on your tax dollar. For twice that—a penny on a dollar—we can transform the country from a sullen, dispirited nation, weary of economic struggle, to one where it has reclaimed its 20th century birthright to dream of tomorrow." -Neil Degrasse Tyson

>> No.32845642

>>32845625
Can I not check it out?

>> No.32845647

>>32840418
I don't know how to spoiler, but that's okay.
I put my own sense of logic before the rules as stated in the core rulebook. Player of mine wanted to dual wield shotguns, and I said no. Lot of mud got flung.

After dabbling with other systems, I inserted rules from another FFG book, and he and I had another falling out over RoF rules, of all things, that resulted in him calling me a lot of things before leaving.

Not even sorry that's he gone, there's less fighting, less arguing, less stepping on toes.
I just feel bad that I didn't follow the letter, and worry that I abused my position as GM.

Ahh well.

>> No.32845653

>>32840719
I've been on here for 3 years, and I've never touched one

>> No.32845655

I learned koi-koi because I'm attracted to Asians and am hoping it would be a good lead into getting into their pants. I do the same with anime conventions in general

>> No.32845666

I'm the guy making a warhammer table top sim.

I want to make a kickstarter and ask for money, but need to find a workaround for the copyright headache.

>> No.32845674

>>32845627
>Well that is a shame. I don't quite want to put my life into a company built upon greed, though it looks to be quite a bright company. They are pushing for colonization of Mars, which is pretty endearing to me.
all companies are like that, as >>32845637 said, it's neither good nor bad.

>> No.32845687

>>32845576
My physical health? Really? Like a brain thing?

Okay, I think I'm convinced, I have a thing about health and that makes me nervous.
>>32845594
So it's a deficiency? I always figured it was kind of an advantage. But I can see where you're coming from, if empathy is a source of information that I lack.

I'll have to put off buying more little plastic men, I guess. Bummer, I really wanted that new Knight Lancer.

>> No.32845689

>>32845536
You know those retarded studies that come out NASA? Those are done so they spend all their budget when they can't quite afford the actually important things. Government budgets are retarded and when anything non-military doesn't spend all of eir budget, it's assumed they can do I without and the budget gets cut

>> No.32845710

>>32845637
Maybe the programs can be revitalized if there was a breakthrough. Maybe I could be the person, maybe not, but I may as well try. You guys have given me something to work towards besides waking up in the morning.

SpaceX, NASA, or literally anything else I could think of. You have made it feel like my life is mine again.

>> No.32845712

>>32845635
To be fair my parents didn't really emotionally invest in me a whole lot. The best thing they ever did for me was have money.

>> No.32845713

>>32845627
>Well that is a shame. I don't quite want to put my life into a company built upon greed, though it looks to be quite a bright company. They are pushing for colonization of Mars, which is pretty endearing to me.

Even if the company is only out to make money, think of all the progress that their company thriving would make for humanity.

>> No.32845714

>>32845655
The hell is koi-koi?

If you're serious, learn to cook. This is applicable to pretty much anyone, but for say Chinese culture cooking is a big thing since all holidays have their associated dishes (and are meant to be home cooked).

>> No.32845732

>>32845647
Ctrl+s

[spoiler*] Text goes here [/spoiler*]

Put what you want to spoiler in between the bracketed words

>> No.32845734

>>32845674
The profit motive is about where we should be headed at this point. We figured out the basics. Now private corporations can figure out how to do it cheaply.

>> No.32845747

>>32845642
My final plan for this current game I'm working on is if I can't finish it is to come here to dump all my work so far, all the notes and numbers and what-have-you (and it's a lot), and just let /tg/ finish it if they want. It's a fun idea and I've got a lot of people wanting to play it but it's getting to the point where I'm struggling with the numbers and people keep popping up with shit like "What if I want to play it this way?" or "That thing you think works like that SHOULD work like THIS IMO" and saying "Then make your own damn game" isn't making the work any easier.

>> No.32845748

>>32845714
Koi koi is a card game

>> No.32845749

>>32845713
>>32845674
You guys are right. They may be built upon their want for money, but that will make them want to try even harder to make even more money. They may only slightly care for the off-chance that humanity doesn't just survive, but thrives in space, but I can see that what they are doing is good.

>> No.32845757

>>32845732
Most grateful bruddah

>> No.32845772

>>32845627
What are you talking about? Private companies built on greed is exactly what the space industry needs. The more and the greedier the better. That's what'll get shit done, not government agencies run on pocket change. Hopefully they'll discover rivers of liquid cash on Titan.

>> No.32845776

>>32845635
>someone's child, a huge emotional and financial investment
so is everyone, so what?
>Put your hero dick away. That person you'd like to shoot
no, i'd like to see him face justice as it is defined under the law. not everyone who doesn't follow your "oh, you poor, poor rapist" is some blood crazed vigilante frothing at the mouth.

>> No.32845780

>>32845714
A japanese card game played with hanafuda cards.

Not to be confused with KhoeKhoe, which is pronounced the same way, and is an african language.

>> No.32845794

I started porting everything to the Dogs in the Vineyard system and now my players won't let me stop.

>> No.32845831

Three years ago I played in a Savage Worlds My Little Pony game and I liked it

Then about a month ago I started to help my ex-GM draw comics of sexy human versions of the game

>> No.32845839

>>32845772
See my revelation here >>32845749 where I realize that. If we discovered something in space worth getting, that would definitely be enough to push space tech forward enough to make space travel possible.

>> No.32845861

>>32845687
>So it's a deficiency? I always figured it was kind of an advantage.
I have a friend who's pretty damn close to you. It's a huge advantage if you also understand the social context, since you can think logically whenever. If you lack the social context, it can get you in some hot water real quick.

Check in with the financial office at your univ. They tend to dole out more assistance if you're dealing with medical expenses, this being one of them. That should hopefully get you more little plastic men. Personally I just chalk mental healthcare up to another bill I must pay, like my electricity or gas bills.

>> No.32845876

>>32845635
>That person you'd like to shoot is someone's child, a huge emotional and financial investment that frankly you don't have the right to judge.
And their investment is a failure the moment it starts raping people.

>don't have the right to judge
Next time you are getting brutally raped be sure to remember you have no right to judge him.

>> No.32845907

>>32845687
>Really? Like a brain thing?
I won't lie to you, it's definitely not the most likely cause. But it's definitely not impossible either. You should absolutely not take the risk of letting a mental illness go undiagnosed, and you unmistakably have a mental illness.

>> No.32845912

>> No.32845924

I'm actually good at mtg

>> No.32845951

>>32845861
>It's a huge advantage if you also understand the social context, since you can think logically whenever. If you lack the social context, it can get you in some hot water real quick.
Hmm, alright then, seems like a logical thing to do. Thanks.
>They tend to dole out more assistance if you're dealing with medical expenses, this being one of them
Didn't know that. Fuck yes, new knight lancer!

Oh, one thing though, do shrinks have to tell the cops about crimes you've done? Because I'm not sure it's outside the statute of limitations.

>> No.32845976

>>32845861
Empathy doesn't stop you thinking logically, although it can cause you to make decisions not in your own best interest, since you include the welfare of others in your value judgement. Certainly lack of empathy inhibits your ability to "read" others. Even if you can get pretty good at approximating it it'll never be the same. I'm a real cold bastard, and I don't mean that in a complimentary way, but I still have a functioning sense of empathy and I certainly wouldn't want to go without it.

>> No.32845985

>>32845710
You're welcome.

>> No.32845999

>>32845951
They're legally bound to keep everything you tell them private.

>> No.32846010

>>32845876
I take umbrage at your implication I was brutal. She only ever ended up with bruises because she bruised easily, and as such it was accidental. You'd not believe how she actually got a black eye, it was incredible.
Well, save a couple things I'm into, which did cause bruises. Still.
>>32845907
Well, I really, really don't want to set some kind of brain thing go undiagnosed. So I'm definitely going to look into it.

>> No.32846019

>>32845712
Then they may have a giant bundle of shame or regret attached to you.

>>32845776
>no, i'd like to see him face justice as it is defined under the law.
Laws are designed to prevent Tragedy of the Commons. When they're repurposed to enforce the moral values of a subset of a community, you suddenly enter the slippery slope in which you'll have no more community left (if you keep excising those who don't belong in the subset).

Unless of course if your moral laws encompass everyone in the community, which begs two questions:
1. Do you seriously think that our laws are perfect?
2. Why the fuck would you have laws to compel behavior when it's the behavior of everyone already?

As a note, I'm very much LG. I'm also not a retard and therefore realize that our laws aren't ever perfect.

>some blood crazed vigilante frothing at the mouth
If he has rabies, treat him. If we reach the last resort, then by all means kill him.

But seriously, put your gun-toting dick away. If you want to see someone as an emotionless killer, you're always going to see them as that and nothing will sway you from your self-inflicted blindness.

>> No.32846032

>>32845951
Is doctor-patient confidentiality a thing with shrinks? If so, then probably not.

>> No.32846058

>>32840418
I'll keep my confessions to /tg/ related stuff. Since rape and murder are apparently far closer to /tg/ than I ever wanted to find out past a horror stories thread.

Forgive me, Dice Gods, for I have sinned:
I once min-maxed a Half-Elf's Diplomacy skill so high that I broke the campaign's plot, Jedi-mind-tricking every NPC with a build meant for purely an intellectual exercise. I understand this was a gaming sin only below Pun-Pun.

I once had a 18-yr-old That GM invite me to a "morally grey" campaign, so I made a Lawful Evil revenge Sorcerer pretending to be a Wizard. Arulix was his name, and his cause was to destroy the campaign deliberately from the inside out.

I'm sorry for Arulix killing someone with a Grease Spell, creating a time paradox and halting the session for 30 minutes while That GM figures out how to retcon.

I have a wish fulfillment self-insert character that I've played only twice. He's a Chaotic Neutral Jester. That I use as a persona here on /tg/. During Wizards' Guild meetings. His name is Cherrywine.

I don't understand why white-knighting is considered a bad thing. Probably because I only do it for things I find morally repugnant for very good reasons. Like I did here ITT.

When GMing, I babby my players and only provide the illusion of danger. I have not legitimately attempted to kill them yet, and haven't killed a single player in-game even accidentally. But I'm gonna, in the very near future, suddenly, violently, and all over the place. They're getting too comfortable.

I still don't understand Shadowrun 4e's Matrix rules.

One of my SR4 players decided to try to bring some ERP shit into the game when pretending to be a prostitute with his female Dryad hacker. I gave her future-herpes.

>> No.32846074

>>32844960
She implied she didn't want it? At that point, it's is rape if you don't stop. Rape is an assholish thing to do, therefore by continuing, you're an asshole.

>>32845026
>I stopped, didn't I?
So?
>Honestly? No, not really.
Yeah, this is where we get the full-blown psychopathy.
You don't get how driving someone to attempt suicide is monstrous?
>ITT: /tg/ finds the monster lurking in its midst.

>>32845062
You've never had a conversation which started with someone saying something, then went on from there until someone wanted an explanation for something, which then eventually led to another explanation until you're talking about, say, jelly-making when you started talking about jet engines?

>>32845082
>I've never done anything quite like that again, though it depends on what you define as hurting people.
The fact that you try to say "it depends upon your viewpoint" is the thing that makes people go "he's not a nice person". You can make a case for some things, like "it'll hurt now, but it'll prevent much worse hurt" (vaccinations, for instance) but something like "it depends upon what you mean by hurting" is the kind of thing that's not cool. Seriously not cool.

>>32845131
>Fine, I'll look into it. Happy?
>>32845222
>Yes, thank you.
Personally, I'm not.
You've got no intention of actually going through with it. I would know, I've given that response myself, with very little intention of following up on it.
Go out, find yourself a psychiatrist, get some help (yes, I do mean help. You have what most people call a mental illness. People who are ill generally need help, and mental illness is one of the things that requires that). Hell, go out right now, go down to your medical school's office, and ask if they know of a mental health professional nearby who's recommended by the university (or wherever you're actually studying). With any luck, you'll get an actual employee of the school whose job is to provide this kind of service.

>> No.32846081

>>32845999
>>32846032
Alright, then I'm set.
>>32846019
>Then they may have a giant bundle of shame or regret attached to you.
My heart bleeds.

>> No.32846138

>>32846081
Part of me hopes I'm wrong, though.

>> No.32846184

>>32845951
Privacy unless if your own personal health is in danger (e.g. suicide), and in such cases they take great care to make sure that you aren't harmed. Or if you plan on inflicting immediate harm on another, of course, but again their first job is to help you (and many make the call to keep you on a watchlist but prevent prosecution - this is why mental illness is such a big thing in courts).

Your results may vary - some practitioners are terribad, of course. But as a general rule of thumb, this is how care works.

>>32846010
Oh right! First thing's first, check with your general practitioner. Every good psychiatrist turns away patients if they haven't gotten a physical, because often times what can be construed as a mental illness is really sourced from a physical illness. After all, your brain is in your body.

>>32845976
Yeah, I'm aware. I have really adjustable empathy and it's usually set to reflect those around me, so I can get really cold and calculating or go the opposite way and have SJWs cry on my shoulder.

Also wouldn't go without empathy, since it's so damn useful for figuring out how people think (and where limits are at).

>> No.32846206

>>32845876
You. I like you. And I support these sentiments.

>> No.32846224

>>32846074
>She implied she didn't want it?
She didn't outright SAY it, but she was pretty scared of me. She's a tiny girl. I still don't count it as such, it pretty much just happened from me implying that something bad would happen to her if she refused.
Unless you count her saying somethign along the lines of "please don't hurt me" as "proof" of rape.
>So?
So, I stopped.
>You don't get how driving someone to attempt suicide is monstrous?
Monstrous in what way?
>The fact that you try to say "it depends upon your viewpoint" is the thing that makes people go "he's not a nice person"
But people generally do find me a nice person. I'm not sure what you mean.
>You've got no intention of actually going through with it
I am going to give it a shot actually. If I'm not feeling it I probably won't continue.

>> No.32846249

>>32846074
>You've never had a conversation which started with someone saying something,
Yeah and if you are talking face to face with someone that's absolutely cool. If you are on the Internet and typing your conversations in threads that were created specifically for the purpose of discussing one thing I expect a little more reflection though.
As I said, it's easy to just post a link in the jet fuel thread to the thread discussing jelly making so the others can follow.
Keep both threads clean and everybody else who wants to talk about jelly can easily find the new thread that focuses on jelly making.

>> No.32846292

>>32846138
Why do people ITT wish so much ill on me? I've been nothing but courteous.
>>32846184
I'm not sure I like the idea of being on a watchlist though.
>First thing's first, check with your general practitioner
And tell him what? "I forced this chick to have sex with me a few years back, wat do?"

>> No.32846314

>>32845876
The important thing is to prevent harm. A policy of treatment prevents harm much better than a policy of shoot-on-sight, even if you don't take the criminal's welfare into account. Your urge for punishment is understandable and instinctual, but it's a relic of a time when we lived in small bands and lacked modern infrastructure. It's just no longer practical, and revenge is not morally desirable in its own right.

>> No.32846346

>>32846314
What do you suggest? Hugging the rape out of them?

>> No.32846353

Guys, he's said he'll seek treatment. If he's telling the truth, mission accomplished. If he's lying you're never going to convince him. If he's a troll you're being trolled. There's no reason to keep arguing.

>> No.32846365

>>32846346
If you're a grill I wouldn't be averse to it!

>> No.32846379

>>32845876
A gun barrel isn't justice. If you think it does, you clearly don't understand the implications of driving unwanted things underground.

>> No.32846405

>>32846314
>A policy of treatment prevents harm much better than a policy of shoot-on-sight, even if you don't take the criminal's welfare into account.

How do you figure?

>Oh well we told this rapist to stop it and put him back on the street.
>Much better than that barbaric method of gunning them down.

I'm all for prosecution after the fact but if the opportunity is given to the victim or a good samaritan to end or prevent the raping through deadly force then more power to them.

>> No.32846412

>>32845400
>there'd have been inquiries and I might have got in trouble.
So... ultimately, you didn't care about her. You only cared about covering your own arse.
> It was like a year and eight-ish months.
...I'm not even going to point out where this is wrong. Even once is once too many. You yourself said it was once or twice a week. For, what, 52 weeks, plus most likely 33 weeks? That works out at at least 85 counts of rape, and probably closer to 100, and you never realised it might be just a little bit rape-y? No wonder she's frightened of men.

>>32845492
>How the hell could a shrink fix that?
>>32845552
>So why waste the money?
Like >>32845531 said, they don't. What they can do is the kind of thing they do for legitimate autists (not the shitflinging insult, I'm talking legitimately autistic people who can be placed on the spectrum, et cetera): teach you how other people react, which in the end might be able to help you look out for yourself. If you honestly are concerned solely about your own welfare, consider this: if you're arrested and charged with the potentially hundred counts of rape, you're going to prison, where your quality of life will be worse.

>>32845647
>Player of mine wanted to dual wield shotguns, and I said no.
Okay, this makes sense.
>Lot of mud got flung.
>him calling me a lot of things before leaving.
>Not even sorry that's he gone
Damn straight. You're better off without him.
Lemme tell you about a player my father once played with. He would do things he was told he wasn't allowed to do, like take a heavy weapon in Traveller when told "no heavy weapons". Why do people do that?

>>32845687
>Bummer, I really wanted that new Knight Lancer.
I'm afraid in this case the only thing to say is "tough, suck it up". Also, empathy is totally a source of information. It's one of the things that let us build the society you live in, where you're able to buy little plastic men, as you put it.

First things first, though. Treatment, then plastic men.

>> No.32846471

>>32846292
>And tell him what? "I'm a sociopathic rapist who tries at every opportunity to rationalize my actions so I can avoid feeling bad about them, wat do?"
ftfy. Also, yes. Not precisely graceful, but it's a start, and clearly still an improvement.

>> No.32846477

>>32846379
>A gun barrel isn't justice

>The rapists life is worth more than you not being raped.

>> No.32846505

>>32846292
>I'm not sure I like the idea of being on a watchlist though.
That's only if you pose an immediate threat to someone, like if you're so depressed and you think your mother is the cause of everything that you are currently plotting her demise (but back out of it every time). The purpose of such a watch is for the safety of people, not the application of judicial punishments.

>And tell him what? "I forced this chick to have sex with me a few years back, wat do?"
Nah, just get a general checkup. If your doc wants a blood test because he thinks that certain blood tests are a part of a general checkup, do that too.

"Hey doc, I wanna check with a psychiatrist as a part of a regular checkup routine. Can I get a basic physical to make sure that I check out physically?"

>> No.32846586

>>32846477
The efforts of [people who commit X crime] to hide their crimes outweigh your desire to drive a gun barrel up their ass. Why else do you think immigration, drug trade, human trafficking, prostitution, inner city gang violence, and pedophilia cost the government exorbitant amounts of money to deal with and still have ridiculously high occurrence rates?

>> No.32846589

>>32846412
>So... ultimately, you didn't care about her. You only cared about covering your own arse.
People say it's the thought that counts, I disagree.
>You yourself said it was once or twice a week. For, what, 52 weeks, plus most likely 33 weeks? That works out at at least 85 counts of rape, and probably closer to 100, and you never realised it might be just a little bit rape-y? No wonder she's frightened of men.
If you're going to put a number on it then like I said I rarely went only one time on any given occasion. So if that counts as secondary counts, then it's a bit more than that. Never really gave it any thought, that's kind of interesting.
>you never realised it might be just a little bit rape-y?
Honestly no.
>No wonder she's frightened of men.
But the other guys were generally nice to her.
>teach you how other people react, which in the end might be able to help you look out for yourself
We've been over this. I figure it actually might be in my best interest.
>Treatment, then plastic men.
Well, as the other guy said, I might get additional assistance, so I might be able to buy plastic men regardless.

>> No.32846593

>>32843037
I've met and fucked every other player in one of my IRC games on separate occasions.

>> No.32846647

>>32846405
It's straightforward. Treating mental illnesses as illnesses, rather than reacting with moral outrage, allows us to catch more of them before they become problematic. For example, it's better to treat paedophiles before they become child molesters, but the stigma prevents them from coming forward. The same, as much as it might make the bile rise in your throat, applies to those who've already committed a crime but who we lack evidence to convict.

In the case of non-insane criminals, it's not practical or desirable to just execute everyone or imprison them forever, so we have the option of rehabilitative treatment - which we know reduces recidivism - or punitive treatment, which makes it more likely if anything. Some punishment is in order as a deterrent, but our instincts lead us to overvalue it.

I strongly advocate lethal force when defending oneself or another from rape, murder, severe bodily harm, or an attack with a reasonable expectation of any of those. That's not the same issue.

>> No.32846662

>>32846405
>I'm all for prosecution after the fact but if the opportunity is given to the victim or a good samaritan to end or prevent the raping through deadly force then more power to them.
To any security professional, this reads:
>I am perfectly fine with people needlessly escalating situations with deadly force

This is why I keep telling you to keep your gun dick out of things. There is a reason why all of the inner city folk in violent neighborhoods want to have strict gun regulations - disarmament works to prevent harm.

>> No.32846671 [SPOILER] 

>>32843969
>if they came here.
see global rule 15

I accidentally got banned once for 15. I didn't realize THAT was the one they were serious about.

I played MAYBE half a dozen games of 6th edition but I read the fuck out of all the rules I could find

I don't PnP because I don't have IRL friends or free time which is also why I 40k so little

I want to post on a WIP thread but my painting is pretty shit. don't get me wrong - not as shit as some. still shit though.

>> No.32846680

>>32846471
Isn't sociopathy something that precludes remorse by default?
I just don't think I am one.
>>32846505
Oh, I see. Yeah, I'll do that.

>> No.32846686

>>32846586
>The efforts of [people who commit X crime] to hide their crimes outweigh your desire to drive a gun barrel up their ass

What the fuck are you getting at? I don't want to drive my barrel up a rapists ass, but in the off chance I am selected for a raping I will use my firearm to prevent said booty bothering.


>Why else do you think immigration, drug trade, human trafficking, prostitution, inner city gang violence, and pedophilia cost the government exorbitant amounts of money to deal with and still have ridiculously high occurrence rates?

What the fuck does any of this have to do with self defense?

>> No.32846709

>>32846662
I'm not that anon, I live in a non-gun-ridden country and I am in favour of gun control. You're fucking crazy if you're opposed to the use of deadly force when defending oneself from a rape.

>> No.32846725

>>32846647
You're missing one factor: that some people are simply scum that the world is better off without.

>> No.32846742

>>32846647
>I strongly advocate lethal force when defending oneself or another from rape, murder, severe bodily harm, or an attack with a reasonable expectation of any of those.
I'm >>32846662.
Even in those instances, it is HIGHLY advisable to follow a hierarchy of escalation. Threats of lethal force are much better unless if they compromise your ability to escalate if the situation seems like it can escalate.

>> No.32846751

>>32844064
>pretending they've not done worse.
>pretending
>not to have done literally worse than murder

/tg/ DOES like to pretend, but I think most of us don't need to.

>> No.32846772

>>32846680
>Isn't sociopathy something that precludes remorse by default? I just don't think I am one.
No, and you may not be. A symptom of sociopathy is reduced empathy and remorse, but that doesn't mean it's missing entirely. Nor is that symptom solely associated with sociopathy. There's a whole world of conditions you might have, that's one reason why a psychiatrist is a good idea.

>> No.32846789

>>32846751
>worse than murder
Okay, now you're just being a drama queen. There is a reason murder gets a worse sentence.
>>32846772
I just don't like to think I have a personality disorder.

>> No.32846805

>>32845710
>You have made it feel like my life is mine again.
>ITT: /tg/ gets people to stop feeling bad, restores my faith in humanity.

>>32845776
>not everyone who doesn't follow your "oh, you poor, poor rapist" is some blood crazed vigilante frothing at the mouth.
>andthentheresthisasshole.jpeg
Sure. Not everyone who doesn't want to see the sociopath treated so that they don't do whatever landed them in trouble again is a bloodthirsty lyncher. But you fit into that category just fine.

>>32845831
First thing: fine, so what?
Second thing: kinda creepy. Only a little bit, though.

>>32846032
>Is doctor-patient confidentiality a thing with shrinks?
Absolutely. Doctor-patient confidentiality is completely a thing with psychologists unless they have reason to believe you're dangerous to yourself, at which point they're obliged to get you sectioned. However, for our resident (shit, I don't know what word to use. Rapist?), he's not going to off himself, he's unlikely to do stupid stuff like go BASE jumping, and he's unlikely to pick a fight with a cactus any time soon, so he's probably safe on that count.

>>32846058
1) Dick move
2) Probably funny as hell, only slightly a dick move
3) Yeah, funny as hell
4) ...eh. Could be worse.
5) Because it tends to end up with people who don't know what they're talking about getting all up in other people's business
6) notsureifdickmove.jpeg
7) I don't think I do either, dude.
8) Not a dick move, even slightly.

>>32846224
>She didn't outright SAY it, but she was pretty scared of me.
>me implying that something bad would happen to her if she refused
...that's rape, dude. Under current laws, unless I'm very much mistaken, assent given under threat is legally null, due to it being coercion.
>So, I stopped.
Just because you stopped doesn't mean the trauma's going to go away. It's like saying "Hey, the car's stopped running me over, I can get up because my bones are totally not broken, yo."
>sadly, cont.

>> No.32846808

>>32846647
>I strongly advocate lethal force when defending oneself or another from rape, murder, severe bodily harm, or an attack with a reasonable expectation of any of those. That's not the same issue.

Then I missed something and thought your argument was against self defense of any sort with a firearm.

>>32846662


>needlessly escalating situations with deadly force

>shooting a rapist to get his dick out of your ass
>needless


>There is a reason why all of the inner city folk in violent neighborhoods want to have strict gun regulations - disarmament works to prevent harm.

The inner city folk want to be allowed guns to defend themselves from the people you don't want them killing but the antigun, asswipe politicians ban them for law abiding citizens so only the criminals have them.

See Chicago

>Disarmament works
Except for all the places it hasn't

>> No.32846828

>>32846725
It's true that not everyone is treatable, not everyone can be rehabilitated. But those people aren't statistically prevalent enough to make a difference. You save more than you lose, in other words.

>> No.32846846

>>32845196
Are you ugly?

>> No.32846848

>>32846662
>gun dick

>I don't have an actual argument.

>since my side of the argument is based on feelings and false information let me bring up dicks in every post to attempt to make the opposition look silly.

>> No.32846872

>>32840418
I want a beautiful nerdy bf. is that too much to ask?

>> No.32846874

>>32846789
Nobody likes to think they have an illness, but based on what you've told us you unfortunately do. Don't take our word for it, ask a professional.

>> No.32846906

>>32846686
>What the fuck does any of this have to do with self defense?
This conversation isn't about self defense, it's about justice.

>>32846725
Slippery slope. I personally think that white culture causes large amounts of harm especially given their past actions and current ideologies (of which most result in the outright death of others), but I'm not here espousing the genocide of all white people. Same deal with dumb people - if we could just wipe out everyone who thinks education is a joke, the world would be a better place.

But man, it's sure as hell nice to realize the moral implications and understand that mankind is inherently flawed.

>> No.32846947

>>32846872
Depends on what you look like.

>> No.32846957

>>32846906
>This conversation isn't about self defense, it's about justice.
I said I was all for shooting a rapist for raping you and a bunch of bleeding hearts jumped all over my dick about how that's not justice.

>> No.32846962

>>32846805
I'm a bit of an adrenalin junkie actually. Not sure if I'd BASE jump but it's not out of the question.
>assent given under threat is legally null
I know it's legally rape, I just don't think of it as such.
>Just because you stopped doesn't mean the trauma's going to go away.
There was absolutely nothing stopping me from resuming where I left off. Nothing whatsoever. Even if she'd stopped being afraid of me I could have blackmailed her.
>>32846846
I think I'm pretty damn good looking actually. I take care of my appearance.
>>32846874
>based on what you've told us you unfortunately do
Surely not ASPD, though, right?

>> No.32847008

>>32846947
Ugly, but not neckbeard ugly

>> No.32847017

>>32846962

>> No.32847062

>>32846742
If I'm understanding the term correctly, if you're in serious fear of your life or of rape then you're already at the top of the hierarchy. My policy, which I've thankfully only ever had to enact once, is to deescalate as much as humanly possible, but if I consider it no longer viable then to strike with the maximum possible effect and escape at the earliest possible moment, with the former obviously being only a means to the latter.

>> No.32847075

>>32846957
I've been responding to >>32845565. You can say whatever you want, but it's irrelevant, or it's shifting goalposts at best.

>>32846962
>Surely not ASPD, though, right?
Don't self-diagnose, don't trust the diagnoses here, just ignore this thread and see that psychiatrist (after you get that physical). I don't think what you have classifies as a Personality Disorder, but this is just my Psych 300 classes talking.

>> No.32847082

>>32846805
>cont., as previously advertised.
>>32846224
>I am going to give it a shot actually.
Alright, fair dues to you.
>If I'm not feeling it I probably won't continue.
This bit, though? Have you ever been told you MUST take the whole course of antibiotics? It's the same principle. Stopping halfway through the antibiotics course may do some good, but it's more than likely going to cause more harm than good, because it leads to resistant strains of bacterium thriving in the place of the varied, less resistant cocktail you decimated. It's similar to the concept of sewing a patient up after surgery, or maybe more like the concept of a prosthetic hip: removing the bad stuff is good, but you've got to finish the job or something worse is likely to happen.

>>32846589
>But the other guys were generally nice to her.
You tend to end up with guilt by association. "One person with characteristic X did such-and-such to me, so I can't trust that any person with characteristic X won't."
>I might be able to buy plastic men regardless.
I'd honestly advise focusing on the treatment first, then doing the plastic men-ing.

>>32846789
>I just don't like to think I have a personality disorder.
Assuming you're the guy I've been keeping on responding too, then the whole "repeated rape for 20 months without getting that it was rape" thing is kinda evidence for a personality or mental disorder of some kind. That said, I'll give the usual disclaimer I give about that kind of statement:
"I don't honestly know for certain, don't take it as gospel truth."

>> No.32847196

>>32846962
>Surely not ASPD, though, right?
There are lots of degrees and lots of conditions. We are not professionals - students at best. See a professional. Take their advice. Don't ditch them because you're "not feeling it" - it's a treatment, you need to ride it out. In the long run you'll be better off.

>> No.32847198

>>32847075
I'm just worried about that is all, but alright.
>>32847082
>you've got to finish the job or something worse is likely to happen
How do I know if it's working for me?
>You tend to end up with guilt by association
Fair enough, people do that, especially broads.
>I'd honestly advise focusing on the treatment first, then doing the plastic men-ing.
Yeah, but if I can fit both in I will.
>the whole "repeated rape for 20 months without getting that it was rape" thing is kinda evidence for a personality or mental disorder of some kind
Well some experiences I had growing up kinda normalized it for me, to be entirely honest.

>> No.32847223

>>32847062
Striking with maximum possible effect causes the most fear on the other side, which makes them think that they need to do the same to survive. If you fear for your life, you should STILL follow the hierarchy unless it has been demonstrated that they have already escalated past what you were going to enact. In other words, if they haven't shot at you, they're using the threat of violence to force your hand, in which case you can use the threat of violence back at them.

But the moment you pull the trigger is when they pull the trigger. And your motive there is to reduce harm, not to kill a person (I hope).

As a note, civilians are really bad at judging danger. It's why police recommend that civilians always run and not attempt to fight, even in life-threatening situations, because civilians are (typically) not trained to recognize the signs of power or willingness to act on said power.

I am all for a certification program that trains people to do exactly that and to open-carry guns only after they've done the training, legal knowledge included. This of course comes with a surveillance requirement that ensures that they abide by their training and don't misuse power. Some people call this "joining the police force."

>> No.32847244

>Cheesed rolls when I was younger
Addicted to rolls making the plot now.
>Haven't had or made time for pen and paper in 5years. still here.
I miss it ;_;
>all dm'ing was improv
It was a pretty fun exercise in creativty for me, but my campaign suffered for it. Players loved it.
>The rape black knight plot in this thread is oddly fascinating.
This guy sounds like low income, low life, high lies. Med school can be read as 'community college'. The sexual coercion might be true. Thought it was kind of funny and odd a girl would knock uglies over some idle threat though. Are people this weak?

I write off all tragic stories as cries for attention, IRL and Online. Everyone wants to be the hero, villain or victim-- to make up for not actually being anyone at all.

>> No.32847262

>>32846962
>Not sure if I'd BASE jump but it's not out of the question.
Alright, I used the wrong example. Let's say... BASE jumping without a parachute? That something you'd want to do?
>There was absolutely nothing stopping me from resuming where I left off. Nothing whatsoever. Even if she'd stopped being afraid of me I could have blackmailed her.
That's... kinda what I was getting at. The fact that you could have picked up where you left off probably contributed to the trauma. The fact that you didn't is kind of irrelevant at that point, because the fear of the act can be as potent, if not more potent, than the act itself. My not really wanting to knife you isn't going to stop you feeling fear if I wave a knife around under your nose and tell you to give me all your money.
>I know it's legally rape, I just don't think of it as such.
Most people will think of it as rape. You're probably an exception rather than the rule.

>> No.32847292

>>32847244
>Thought it was kind of funny and odd a girl would knock uglies over some idle threat though. Are people this weak?
Now that's what I call edgy.

>> No.32847373

>>32847198
>especially broads
This bit? This is the kind of stuff you need to cut out. Think of people as people first, then as male or female. Might help with the empathy, thing, you never know.
>Well some experiences I had growing up kinda normalized it for me, to be entirely honest.
Yeah, that thing I said earlier about going out NOW? Please do it. It's not normal. Really.
Obviously, if it's, like, 3 o'clock in the morning, don't but make it a priority. A "this is what I'm going to do after having breakfast"-level priority. Really.

>> No.32847406

>>32847262
Man, I know you're trying to be helpful, but having him draw advice by tapping into his empathy isn't going to help. It isn't now, and it certainly isn't later. It's just not how his brain works.

>> No.32847490

>>32847373
>Yeah, that thing I said earlier about going out NOW? Please do it. It's not normal. Really.
Calm your tits, it's not THAT urgent. Everyone's abnormal to a certain degree, and the goal of mental health is not to make everyone "normal" (god forbid you try and define that), it's to allow patients to manage their circumstances so that they can lead lives that they feel are worth living. Consequences that blindside you kind of prohibit that.

Now if he goes several months without acting on it, that's when we head into Valve time.

>> No.32847500

>>32847196
Yeah, but I can't know if it's right for me then.
>>32847262
>BASE jumping without a parachute? That something you'd want to do?
Well no, that's suicide.
>The fact that you didn't is kind of irrelevant at that point, because the fear of the act can be as potent, if not more potent, than the act itself. My not really wanting to knife you isn't going to stop you feeling fear if I wave a knife around under your nose and tell you to give me all your money.
Doesn't that only logically apply if I actually made the threat that I could come back and do it again?
>Most people will think of it as rape
Yeah, but most people are idiots.
>>32847373
>Think of people as people first, then as male or female
The way I think of people is as "not me" first, then (technically) higher beings than animals, then male or female, then [insert race here]. It's not like pretending the distinction isn't there is logical.
>Yeah, that thing I said earlier about going out NOW? Please do it. It's not normal. Really.
I have found that enjoying exercising power over a woman is not entirely abnormal among men, in my personal experience, and I find it unlikely that I somehow attract dudes who are into that kind of thing.

>> No.32847526

>>32847490
Define acting on it.

>> No.32847559

>looking over this thread

well damn, worse i've done /tg/ related is buy malifaux models, paint a little, never get around to playing 1st edition, got the 2nd edition book, stripped some models and still haven't gotten around to playing it yet

>> No.32847581

>>32847559
>still haven't gotten around to playing it yet
Worst person in this thread.

>> No.32847601

>>32847500
>Yeah, but I can't know if it's right for me then.
They're the professional, that's what you're paying them for. If you had a lung infection and your GP prescribed a certain antibiotic, you wouldn't stop taking it because it's "not right for you". If you didn't like the side effects, you'd talk to the doctor about it. If you're unsure, get a second opinion.

>> No.32847624

>>32847601
I don't assume medical professionals are infallible, I should know, I'm planning to be one.

>> No.32847651

>>32847526
Going to see the doc.

>> No.32847657

>>32847500
>Doesn't that only logically apply if I actually made the threat that I could come back and do it again?
No, it doesn't. I don't know what I can say that will convince you, and I'm not sure there is anything I can say, but ultimately, it doesn't.
>I have found that enjoying exercising power over a woman is not entirely abnormal among men
Sure. But feeling that repeated rape is normal? No, that's not normal.

>> No.32847709

>>32847651
Ah, I see, didn't entirely get what you meant.
>>32847657
>I don't know what I can say that will convince you, and I'm not sure there is anything I can say, but ultimately, it doesn't.
Then it was a poor analogy to compare it to having a knife waved under your nostrils. You're saying it's closer to getting stabbed a bunch and then being scared forever that you might be stabbed again.
>feeling that repeated rape is normal? No, that's not normal.
So you keep telling me. I just don't see why it's such a big deal.

>> No.32847727

>>32847624
Sure, but the point still stands. You don't stop an operation halfway through because you've made up your mind that you don't like the scalpel, right? Don't assume that just because the course of treatment isn't one you like that it's a course of treatment that's ineffective. After all, appendicitis kills a lot more often if left untreated than an appendectomy does.

>> No.32847735

>>32847500
"Birds of a feather flock together." People have a noticeable tendency to group with others like them. So yes, you do in fact attract rapists, simply by being yourself a rapist.

>> No.32847756

>>32847624
They're not infallible, but they know more about their field of study than you do. I wouldn't presume to tell you how to do a carotid endarterectomy, if I had reason to believe you'd do a bad job I'd get a different surgeon.

>> No.32847765

>>32847709
>You're saying it's closer to getting stabbed a bunch and then being scared forever that you might be stabbed again.
...not quite. More along the lines of being bullied for 5 years then being unwilling to interact with people at a new school because people might bully you. Maybe I should have said that instead. Ultimately, as long as I get the point across, the analogy I use doesn't matter.

>> No.32847815

>>32847727
>>32847756
You raise valid points. Very well, I'll see how it goes.
>>32847735
It's not like rapists hold conventions. How would they know?
>>32847765
Yes, that fits better. And yes, I suppose I understand it. Still rather silly of her, but I guess that's the way of chicks, you know?

>> No.32847850

>>32847756
Sounds trite but it's true. The general reactions of horror in this thread aren't because 4chan is a den of bleeding-heart sensitives, you know. You came to the asshole of the internet and people STILL think you need psychiatric help.

>> No.32847895

>>32847850
>The general reactions of horror in this thread aren't because 4chan is a den of bleeding-heart sensitives, you know
From what I've noticed, /tg/ and /co/ most certainly fucking are, to be frank. I stay here mainly because I like to buy and talk about little plastic men, and I play TTRPGs.

>> No.32847913

>>32847815
>How do they know?
Being willing to rape requires certain mental characteristics, such as, say, trivialization of the pain of others or blatant disrespect of the victim group. Characteristics that you have repeatedly shown, and that would thus attract like-minded people.

>> No.32847966

>>32847913
Okay, I admit I trivialize whatever, but who honestly doesn't disrespect this particular victim group?

>> No.32848026

>>32847895
I swear to you from the bottom of my heart, whatever experiences you had growing up and whatever the people you surround yourself with say, coercing people into sex is considered abhorrent by society at large. It carries a prison sentence - legislators didn't just make that up for shits and giggles. You've heard people in this very thread express a desire to kill people like you - that's genuine, and it actually typically comes from the more conservative portion of the population. The "bleeding hearts" are the ones like me who treat you like a human being.

>> No.32848047

>>32848026
Okay, let me admit I'm totally lost then.

I just don't understand the big deal here, clearly.

>> No.32848049

>>32847966
See, that's another trait that most rapists share: they think everyone is like them.
Respect of everyone, regardless of gender, is much more widespread than you want to think.

>> No.32848070

>>32848049
I'm not sure I believe that.

>> No.32848171

>>32848047
Let me break it down in terms your selfish mind can understand:
- you hurt someone and are willing to do it again
- people don't like being hurt
- hence, there is a natural instinct of repulsion towards people like you
That clear enough?

>> No.32848202

>>32848171
I didn't hurt her, much. Sex doesn't hurt.

>> No.32848220

>>32848047
>I just don't understand the big deal here, clearly.
That's because of your illness. If you were well you'd be able to understand and empathise with our distaste.

>> No.32848263

>>32848220
Isn't it possible that everyone else is wrong?

>> No.32848280

>>32848070
The truth doesn't depend on your beliefs. There are multiple studies that confirm what I said. Google it.
Bottom line: no matter how much you want to believe you're normal, you aren't.

>> No.32848290

>>32848280
Studies in which people say what they want people to think.

>> No.32848340

>>32848202
Statistically, no.
>>32848263
For you, maybe. Not so for a lot of people, especially if the sex partent doesn't fare.

>> No.32848362

>>32848047
>>32848070
People glean happiness off of feeling superior. The whole deal about rape arises because empathic people are able to understand that they (or the people they care about) can be raped and thus find that abhorrent. Furthermore, those who are raped are forced to realize that their existence and value is absolutely tied to "just" their body (at least in that moment), which is a horrific realization for those who have brains.

Because people are generally empathic, society generally associates the horrors of being raped to the crime of rape, which they've agreed upon as a thing that exists. This recognition of horrific things (again based in empathy) ties into respecting people in general, regardless of gender.

Also Americans love killing things or enacting violence, so conservatives who don't care as much about being empathic towards those who are different enough enjoy the thought of bringing "justice" down on those individuals (which really means ostracizing them or harming them, and their societal rules often don't punish these actions because there's a lot of like-minded individuals). There is also an element of fear, since if you don't strive to understand individuals who are different (enough) than you, the fear of the unknown starts to grow. The less you understand, the more you fear them, and this in general causes more disproportionate behavior (like lynching).

I guess I'm also a bleeding heart, so I've been treating you like a human being.

>> No.32848364

>>32848340
>especially if the sex partent doesn't fare
u wot
>Statistically, no.
People believed wrong things for a long time.

>> No.32848385

>>32848263
The entire human race, and tests using scientific methodology which can be applied to you if you so choose? No, not in any meaningful sense. Even if you choose to define them as being wrong and you as right, that doesn't help you any since the issue is your inability to function smoothly in the world of "normal" humans.

>> No.32848413

>>32848362
That I can understand, though it seems kind of dumb. I guess it's one of those things I can understand in theory.
>>32848385
Live in your world, play by your rules. I get it. Man, things would be so much more efficient were I in charge.

>> No.32848425

>>32848362
>People glean happiness off of feeling superior.
Superior to what? That's a weird fucking statement, dude. Or is this intended to be in terms a psychopath can understand? They know what happiness is, they're not robots.

>> No.32848441

>>32848202
Sex physically hurts in some cases and the effect enhances if they think it'll hurt (placebo effect). Rape hurts emotionally and mentally because it degrades the person into being just having physical value (amongst a storm of other things, especially if the victim cared for the rapist prior to... and sometimes thereafter). Really depends on the empathy levels.

Again, nothing inherently wrong with having low empathy relative to the norm. It becomes problematic if you don't compensate for the upsides of empathy (which you lack) and you enter a situation where people expect you to have that set of benefits.

>> No.32848455

>>32848290
Nope, literal scientific studies, with control groups, large subject groups, etc.
At this point, the rationalization is kicking in. You're desperately clinging onto straws to convince yourself that you're normal, that everyone else is lying. You're not, and they aren't. You are a literally sick individual, and your state of being is one humanity at large finds abhorrent.

>> No.32848469

>>32848413
If it makes you feel better, if everyone were like you your quality of life would be dramatically worse.

>> No.32848503

>>32848364
*doesn't care
My point is, sex with you hurts because you're à shitty human being.

>> No.32848554

>>32848469
It kind of does.
>>32848455
Fine, maybe I'm not normal.
>>32848503
I disagree.
>>32848441
You know what, I'm just going to chalk it up to "people are weird". I can understand the theory but it doesn't seem sensible to me.

>> No.32848562

>>32848413
>That I can understand, though it seems kind of dumb.
I mean, most reported political dialogue is all about FEELINGS and MUH EMOTIONS (and this applies to both sides of the aisle). Social contracts are in fact all about what people FEEL is acceptable.

>Man, things would be so much more efficient were I in charge.
You'd think so, but the problem is that people who guide their lives by their feelings would interfere with you. (Trust me, I know exactly what you're talking about, and with enough empathy you realize that there are too many people in the world who cannot part with their empathy, even if their life depended on it.)

>>32848425
Superior to another. I'm just phrasing in ways that are logical.

>> No.32848588

>>32848562
So the question is why are emotions a good thing to have then?

>> No.32848606

>>32848554
>You know what, I'm just going to chalk it up to "people are weird". I can understand the theory but it doesn't seem sensible to me.
There is nothing sensible about emotions, save for maybe certain cases of fear and elation, until you look at it from a communal perspective. The set of common emotions that help build communities is just a specific set that happened to emerge first in nature, ergo that's what builds our communities and what influences the properties of our communities.

>> No.32848610

>>32848562
Most people don't consider the root of happiness to be feeling superior to another person. I'm not saying a sense of superiority can't make someone happy, because it sure as shit can, but if that's the only way you're happy you must have an incredibly depressing life.

>> No.32848628

>>32848606
So it's pretty much "because it was always done this way".

>> No.32848687

>>32848610
Oh nah, I just stated that it was a source.

>>32848628
Somewhat. I am quite irrational when it comes to my altruism, which is why I've bothered spending all this time talking to you and giving you advice. That builds communities, though it is also extremely rare (and likewise attracts ostracizers).

If you're altruistic and naive, then you tend to get taken advantage of. Normal people also don't trust people who just unconditionally help others - they think they're trying to get something out of it, when really they just feel good helping others.

>> No.32848698

>>32848687
I like you because you're helpful, if that means anything.

>> No.32848712

>>32848606
>There is nothing sensible about emotions
That's one of the stupidest statements in a long series of stupid arguments in a stupid discussion in a stupid pseudo therapy session for a socially retarded self-confessed rapist and/or troll.
Every single emotion serves very specific purpose. They are not just abstract ideas in your head, they are physiological reactions of your body to external stimuli, the thoughts that accompany them are just a byproduct of a very real biological process. As such they are neither random nor without purpose.

Today you really let me down /tg/.

>> No.32848725

>>32848698
Thanks. Altruism is all about having so much internal feedback that being helpful is already rewarding enough for you to do something.

And man, people really distrust that.

>> No.32848758

>>32848712
I mean that from a design perspective. Not intelligent design, but just from a design standpoint it really doesn't help you to feel bad for killing a puppy if that's what's going to stave off hunger.

Of course, there's the big qualifier I added afterwards, which is that it doesn't really build communities that well if you don't also have a huge set of other emotions embedded into each human being.

>> No.32848873

>>32848628
Nope, it's "because that's how our brains are physically wired". Emotions are fantastic evolutionary shortcuts for a shitload of mental processes that would otherwise take way too much time for practical application.
This is part of why lack of empathy is a problem: you don't have one of the primary building blocks of society.

>> No.32848892

>>32848873
Not how mine's wired.

>> No.32848984

>>32848892
Yes, I gathered. If you were wired in a more common way, you wouldn't need these explanations.

>> No.32849049

>>32848984
Of course, there are people who rely too much on that wiring and just fling themselves at the growing fire we call Tragedy of the Commons. But hey, apparently they're "normal."

>> No.32849262

>>32849049
Literally everything can be used wrongly. People keep drowning, but we still use water daily. The important thing is, emotions do way more good than bad.

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