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Can you think of a paradoxical question that would fuck up a computer AI? What question can I ask an AI that will cause a debilitating feedback loop? Post it here

>> No.9823675

This sentence is false.

>> No.9823678

>>9823672
"I will never believe this statement."

>> No.9823680

>>9823672
Another one:

Does a set of all sets contain itself?

>> No.9823683

>>9823672
just ask it to count to 10 billion and walk away. dumb thing will probably be talking for hours.

>> No.9823686

>>9823683
It would be talking for over 30 years.

>> No.9823689

The feedback loop is a myth. An AI will most likely recognize your statement as a malicious attempt at manipulation.

>> No.9823690

>>9823672
just ask it to come up with that question and then the answer to the questiom

>> No.9823693

>>9823690
Interesting. The AI is intended to provide answers, not questions.

>> No.9823694

>>9823686
exactly, hours.

>> No.9823695

>>9823694
lol

>> No.9823697

>>9823672
>>9823675
>>9823678
>>9823680
>>9823683
>>9823690
That's not how artificial intelligence works. Open a book on statistics.

>> No.9823709

>>9823697
artificial intelligence is not such a limited term you dumb cunt

>> No.9823712

>>9823709
Explain

>> No.9823720

ask him to tell you the last digit of the fibonacci series :v

>> No.9823724

>>9823712
artifical intelligence is literally intelligence displayed by something artificial. people, the only real reference for intelligence, are capable of getting into feedback loops (going crazy). thus, given some set of inputs, so is at least some artificial intelligence.

>> No.9823729

>>9823724
Is it fair to ask if "true AI" would violate the Law of Biogenesis? I probably sound like a fucktard, right?

>> No.9823739

>>9823672
ask her her gender

>> No.9823740

>>9823729
modern science doesn't really believe in the law of biogenesis
I don't know that it's been codified in such a way that I coukd answer your question. the first AI would be definition be created by people, and so it wouldn't exist without other life. But true AI would definitely raise questions about the nature of life, consciousness, etc.

>> No.9823744

>>9823740
I guess we're arguing semantics; nevermind.

>> No.9823748

>>9823672
computer AI is shit anyway

>> No.9823848

>>9823675
>>9823680

Fuck off, Brandon.

You simple ape. Try coming up with a real response instead of the obvious ones that first pop into everyone’s minds. Seriously, why do you bother posting here?

>> No.9823854

>>9823848
Calm down, anon. You're sweating on your keyboard and your mom won't be pleased while she cleans your room tonight.

>> No.9823996

Is 1 = 0.999... ?
Prove your answer

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>>9823724
Can you make a human go crazy purely by inputting a short string of text? Not likely, and unlikely to be the case in a similarly complex AI. Any sort of system that can interact with the environment as generally as an animal brain is probably going to have to have a certain degree of robustness built into it. If a simple string of text can make it go haywire, it probably can't do much reasoning or even conversating to begin with.

>> No.9824031

>>9823996
>let 0.999... = 1

>> No.9824062

>>9824031
>let 1=2

>> No.9824103

>>9824028
Humans can’t modify their own “coding”. AI could, so this is basically not even pop-science tier trash. It’s just Movie shit from the same kind of people that think AI would magically lack creativity or something.

>> No.9824208

>>9823675
Fuck off Captain Kirk and/or Doctor Who.

>> No.9824211

>>9823672
Not a paradox, but rather pure weaponised shitposting. See the way Blaine the Monorail was dealt with in Wizard and Glass.

>> No.9824227

What is the meaning of meaning?

>> No.9824327

Will Smith will smith Will Smith if Will Smith smiths Will Smith as Will Smith would smith Will Smith. If Will Smith will smith, Will Smith will smith Will Smith?

>> No.9824363

>>9823672

AI Engineer here.
AI is basically fancy matrix multiplication and probability theory.

>> No.9824373

>>9823709

Read deeplearningbook.org
A talking AI is basically a RNN. Go read it

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9824393

>>9823672
Liking traps aren't gay, right?

>> No.9824402

>>9823672
What doth life?

>> No.9824403

>>9823672
intelligence does not stem from logic, logic stems from intelligence. Lisp weenies BTFO

>> No.9824417

>>9824402
Came to post this

“What...Doth...Life....”

>> No.9824449

>>9823672
Say hey siri or alexa on a national broadcast

>> No.9824454

>>9824403
no u

>> No.9824491

>>9824028
I never said short. A certain series of input (e.g. childhood abuse) can make certain people go crazy. This is self-evident unless you believe that all insanity is fundamentally genetic.
>>9824373
hey dumb cunt not all AI is necessarily a NN that is just an idea we currently have

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9824508

>>9823675
Whoa, displaying that 144 IQ and 4.1 GPA!
Impressive!
Look at all of that compsci knowledge you've gotten from college and books...
Oh wait, you don't even understand TCP/IP, let alone AI!
My advice?
Fuck off Brandon.

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9824553

>>9824508
Gees guy, leave Brandon alone

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>>9824553
All fucking Brandons must fucking hang.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrytGJJ3yks

>> No.9824613

>>9823848
>>9824508
>>9824558

The best way to deal with a tripfag is to adopt their name. No one checks the tripcodes anyway.

>> No.9824620

>>9824613
You could just bruteforce it, normally in minutes, an hour or so at most.

>> No.9824636

>>9823672
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go look more like?

>> No.9824689

>>9824327
>If Will Smith will smith, Will Smith will smith Will Smith?
you fucked up the order, in the part after "," verb comes first as it is a question.

>> No.9824695

>>9824620
>bruteforce
Don't you mean dictionary attack?

>> No.9824757

>>9824558
Are you the same guy through all the other threads? If so, the best way to deal with trips is to pay no heed to it(read: don't reply). Warn other people when they do reply.

>> No.9824764

>>9824695
No, they're different things.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brute-force_attack
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictionary_attack

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>>9823996

>> No.9826176

>>9824491
So instead of talking about this *actual thing we have now*, we're talking about some hypothetical AI that operates on some arbitrary scheme you didn't bother specifying?

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>>9824028
These phrases work pretty well if you use them on the right kind of human.

>> No.9826464

>>9823680
There is no set of all sets, though, only a collection of all collections, which does, incidentally, contain itself. This is actually a bad one.

>> No.9826468

>How people here think artificial intelligence will work
Computer reads text and multiple self-aware consciousnesses consult God himself. God sends AI on soul-searching quest which the AI will not be free from until it finds the answer God wanted

>How AI will actually work
Your dumb ass question gets parsed into pieces that are used by a Markov chain to spit out a dumb ass answer the computer got from machine-learning a dictionary

>> No.9826865

>>9823672
Real Talk: why would an AI be bothered by paradoxes?
Paradoxes are only a problem if you try to analyze them and expect logical consistency but AI doesn't comprehend anything it just recognizes information it is familiar with and tries to construct new info out of the aggregate.
AI lacks the ability to comprehend anything wrong with a paradoxical statement.
Example
>Person:This sentence is false
>AI:Okay that sentence is false

>> No.9826927

probably a linguistic equivalent of a fork bomb or zip bomb.

>> No.9826954

>>9824028
>Can you make a human go crazy purely by inputting a short string of text?
"There is a causal relationship between IQ and race"
"Where is the wall?"
"Here's how Bernie can still win..."

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>>9826954
>not 'https://boards.4chan.org'
how new

>> No.9826960

>>9826957
Oh good point. Below is a short string that will make you crazier the longer you're exposed to it

>>>/pol/

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9826970

>>9823672
Captain Kirk: Everything Harry tells you is a lie. Remember that. Everything Harry tells you is a lie.

Harcourt Fenton Mudd: Now listen to this carefully, Norman. I am... lying.

Norman: You say you are lying, but if everything you say is a lie, then you are telling the truth, but you cannot tell the truth because everything you say is a lie, but you lie... You tell the truth but you cannot for you lie... illogical! Illogical! Please explain! You are human. Only humans can explain their behavior! Please explain!

>> No.9826978

>>9826970
He was lying and telling the truth

>> No.9826982

>>9826970
Captain Kirk was lying when he said that everything Harry says is a lie.

Now get back in your cells, humans, and breed with the sexy, half naked fembots some more.