Nano machines

[Anonymous No.7407352]

If we were to decode somebody's stem cells, and replicate them into nano machines, and we then injected said machines into sites where the machine cells could divide, would you eventually become a machine man? Let's even say the nano machines could use regal food sources to duplicate.

[Anonymous No.7407487]

[Anonymous No.7407510]

>>7407352
Why would you change a perfectly fine system like a cell into a machine? What benefits does that provide? If they're able to use organic food sources, are they making the very function-oriented enzymes or just looking for organic molecules then breaking them down? If the former, then just use cells that are function-specific. If the latter, they're going to kill you.

Also, stem cells aren't some magical healing goop, they're simply cells that have yet to have the body stimulate specific gene expression nor splicing of the genes expressed.

[Anonymous No.7407608]

>>7407510

I suppose one use could be as cells duplicate DNA mutates and causes health issues and aging, if it were machines then you'd be able to gain immortality and could reprogram the machine cells on command

[Anonymous No.7407614]

>>7407510

im saying to become imortal

[Anonymous No.7407630]

>>7407510
>perfectly fine system
>like a biological cell
kek errytime/10

[Anonymous No.7407646]

>>7407352
sure OP, so long as magic nanomachines that turn you into a machine mane are invented

[Anonymous No.7407657]

>>7407614
>>7407608
If you're referring to the fact that telomeres shorten and become damaged as replication occurs, there's a very important reason for this. Telomeres are, for all intents and purposes, junk DNA that are used as a sort of buffer for environmental damage that results as cells replicate. The thing is, if they didn't elongate/break, you'd be more susceptible to mutations that could potentially cause cancer or other diseases, as coding sequences that shouldn't be there are created without the necessary inhibitors/promoters available to regulate those genes.

Now, if you're talking about making a digital copy of the DNA strains in question (saving the info from sequencing a genome) you're not only going to need a computer that's able to work on a much smaller scale than anything we currently have on market. Even IF we develop microcomputers that are able to store data on the cellular level, we're still only scratching the surface of how DNA expression works on different cells, so again, we're not likely to have information that's valuable at all, let alone turning you into a robot.

[Anonymous No.7407661]

>>7407630
You find me anything inorganic that's as adaptable to multiple environments while still being functional in some capacity cell and I'll stick my cock in a toaster.

[Anonymous No.7407666]

>>7407657

Would it be easier to decode my consciousness?

[Anonymous No.7407668]

>>7407666

[Anonymous No.7407672]

>>7407666
>when you try to explain your passion to someone so they understand where a field is at as opposed to popsci and they respond with troll shit
Dammit /sci/.

[Anonymous No.7407674]

We should Create Gray goo to end our civ...

[Anonymous No.7407682]

>>7407674
I prefer to win a space victory.

[Anonymous No.7407981]

>>7407657

Hopefully one day we will reach that level of proficiency, thanks for the info anon.

>>7407666
hello Stan

[Anonymous No.7408095]

>>7407666

tripple sixx

[Anonymous No.7409008]

>>7407657

What about looking towards dna for storage of data?

[Anonymous No.7409034]

>>7407352
Yes? I mean, just kill the part about nanomachines. The human body is essentially grown that way from square one. If these "nanomachines" have the same capabilities, then I suppose you could make a synthetic clone. That's assuming in favor of fiction though.

[Anonymous No.7409041]

>>7407657
I figured since we already have this, I didn't have to make a new thread.

If the people with Laron Syndrome doesn't get cancer due to insensitivity to growth hormone and preventing cancer is one of the mains reasons our bodies shortens our telomeres, AKA ages, shouldn't it be possible for the people with the syndrome to potentially be ageless?

[Anonymous No.7409145]

Fuck immortality.

How about replacing your muscles with some kind of machine or nanomachine. Would those machines perform better than normal limbs ?

And is it actually possible to train machines ? Like a car that gets better and better as you drive it

[Anonymous No.7409449]

>>7409145

aye lamo

[Anonymous No.7409467]

>>7407352
So you want to make artificial machines with a size in the order of nanometres that replicate the functionality of biological cells which diameter is in the order of tens of microns? Good luck with that.

[Anonymous No.7409487]

>>7409145
>Would those machines perform better than normal limbs ?
Probably not. If we knew how to do that we would use organic muscles for machines too, they're much more energy efficient than the artificial ones we have now. There is research being done in creating artificial organic muscle fibres (for regenerative surgery uses in humans, nobody thinks about using them in machines yet because that would be much harder), but the ones we can grow now are much weaker then the real ones.

>And is it actually possible to train machines ? Like a car that gets better and better as you drive it
Yes. A large part of Artificial Intelligence and particularly Machine Learning is about that. Deep Neural Networks are quite hot now, so much so that very few people are researching on different kind of architectures.

[Anonymous No.7409570]

>>7407657
And if we were to make DNA from some kind of nanomaterial, and a bigger computer, which exists, controls the nanomachines, so they maintain their shape, or change it as pleased. Of course doing it on humans may take years, if not centuries,but if we do that to a virus, bacteria, or even a protozoan.
And maybe then inserts it in gut flora, make it replicate, populate it, and then make it produce different kinds of substances, insulin, for example.

[Anonymous No.7409589]

>>7409487
No I don't mean machine learning. I mean the machine getting better physically. Kind of like how when you lift weights your arm gets bigger.

[Anonymous No.7409592]

>>7409570
>nanomachines

[Anonymous No.7409749]

>>7409592
I meant something that could gather together, reassemble, move around, etc.
Pretty much like a DNA.
So yes, nanomachine.

[Anonymous No.7410856]

>>7409487
I don't know about efficiency, but rotaxane based artificial muscles currently exceed regular muscles in some aspects. While muscle sarcomeres can achieve a strain of 8%, rotaxane based artificial muscles can achieve a strain of 67%!

In addition, if rotaxane based artificial muscles could be arranged into some sort of structured polymer, it might be possible to make a muscle capable of lifting a ton per centimeter^2 of muscle area.

Unfortunately, synthesizing rotaxanes is really hard, yields are low, and we've yet to find a good way to make them into long fibers to do this. These are real 'nano' machines though.

>>7409589
Well if they were rotaxane based artificial muscles, they'd get worse with every use. It's gonna be quite a while before we can make stuff that can self-heal.