New Horizons Anomoly Edition

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New Horizons Anomoly Edition Anonymous Mon Jul 6 01:51:41 2015 No.7375421 [Reply] [Original]

The story so far:

2006 New Horizons is launched
2000-2015 Traveling at 16-20 km/s through space
April 9 First image of Pluto at better resolution than Hubble. The first surface feature of Pluto is detected, a white patch at the pole.
June 22 Images are taken of one full rotation of Pluto, one side is significantly darker than the other. All moons are visible. Colour images show Pluto to be distinctly red/brown while Charon is grey.
July 1 Higher resolution images show a row of regularly spaced, mysterious dark patches.
July 4 An anomaly interrupts communications.
July 5 New Horizons operational after tuning it off and back on again.

Only 8 days to go til closest reproach! Then it's off to the Kuiper belt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 01:55:30 2015 No.7375428 >Unknown control sequence '\class' ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 01:56:20 2015 No.7375430 File: 3.12 MB, 6000x2700, pluto flyby.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Flyby schedule from the other thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 01:58:20 2015 No.7375434 OP cannot into Latex

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 02:06:48 2015 No.7375447 >>7375421 >Reboot The most effective form of computer repair ever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 02:23:37 2015 No.7375477 >>7375447 imagine someone pushing "shut down" by mistake

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 03:07:43 2015 No.7375541 >>7375477 why would you be able to shut it down?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 06:49:29 2015 No.7375873 >>7375421 I'm not saying it's aliens.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 06:59:10 2015 No.7375882 any aliens or other discoveries than just a levitating rock ball?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:00:10 2015 No.7375885 >>7375541 illumnati doesnt want us to see what they dont want us to see so they need a panic button

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:22:12 2015 No.7375906 File: 98 KB, 620x571, wallpaper-540207.1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how can hubble telescop take pictures like these but not a clear picture of our planets in our solar system?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:28:18 2015 No.7375915 >>7375906 size and luminosity might have something to do with that I hazard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:40:37 2015 No.7375924 >>7375906 Because Pluto if fucking tiny and dark.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:46:39 2015 No.7375936 >>7375421 It's just a Moon-like boring-ass piece of cratered rock. Just go away from he-... I mean there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:49:32 2015 No.7375941 >>7375906 I think there's a lot of astronomical bodies that are actually quite large in angular size (as we see it on earth) but are just very faint. For example, the andromeda galaxy would actually appear larger than the moon if you could see it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:51:16 2015 No.7375943 >>7375906 Hubble is so sensitive that any reflected light from an object in our solar would be so bright it would burn it out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:55:31 2015 No.7375946 >>7375477 Imagine someone pushing "nuke from orbit" on purpose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:57:59 2015 No.7375947 >>7375421 aww - cute Murricans finally reached "their" planet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:59:08 2015 No.7375948 Do you guys have any preferences regarding KBOs for the probe to check out after Pluto?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:11:55 2015 No.7375957 >>7375421 >tuning it off and back on again Kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:21:01 2015 No.7375961 >>7375936 Well played/10

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:22:01 2015 No.7375964 >>7375430 how do we have these pictures since it didn't happen yet

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:24:48 2015 No.7375965 >>7375964 Maybe you should read the text instead of just looking at the pictures. I guess you are one of those they call "visual learners". :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:25:00 2015 No.7375966 >>7375964 aliens

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:08:12 2015 No.7376013 File: 55 KB, 653x786, Shepard thinks about winning.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7375421 So have we found the mass relay in Charon yet?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:45:44 2015 No.7376146 >>7375906 Can you see an illuminated skyscraper from miles away? Yes. Can you see a dark spec of dust on the other side of the street in a foggy night? There's your answer: 42

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:53:51 2015 No.7376149
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>>7375941
This. I was very surprised when I learned how big it would be if it was bright enough for us to see. This image should be a good representation I'm told.

Was kinda disappointing to learn how faint things become. But I suppose the sky would glow like crazy if this wasn't the case.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:57:27 2015 No.7376156 >>7375965 So does that mean that voyager already got much closer to Pluton than New Horizons ever will anyway ? So why is it a big deal ?

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:01:47 2015 No.7376162
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>>7376149
On that note anyone know if there really is a distance one could behold a sight like pic related with the naked eye?

Surely they would just see something faint in the middle if this was outside a real galaxy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:02:43 2015 No.7376164 >>7376156 Are you being stupid on purpose?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:05:12 2015 No.7376167 >>7376156 Try again, this time reading all the words instead of every other word.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:08:28 2015 No.7376171

>>7376164
No, I find that image is really confusing. What information is it supposed to convey ?

If I understand correctly, the pictures that appear in the image were taken by Voyager, right ?
So what's new with New Horizon ? Better image quality ? Or is it just about the fact that it takes color pictures ?

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:11:34 2015 No.7376174

>>7376171

No, dickhead, it's a simulation of the resolutions of images taken by New Horizons using images of the gas giant moons taken by Voyager as a rough guide.

Fucking hell, it's right there in the text.

Voyager never got anywhere near Pluto, they had a shot but decided to look at something else instead.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:14:01 2015 No.7376177

>>7376167
shit I feel stupid.

OK, I understand the pictures on the left represent what New Horizon will be able to see when it get close to Pluton, reaching a minimum distance on July 12, where the precision will be of 12.7 km/pixel.

But what do all the other, bigger pictures represent ? Like the ones with a 0.4km/pixel precision. There is no date on them so I assume New Horizon will not get that close to Pluton, right ? So which probe took these pictures, is it Voyager ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:16:19 2015 No.7376178 >>7376174 So the pictures on the image do NOT represent Pluto or Charon ? That's the information I didn't understand, thanks ! I find it kind of misleading to label a picture with "Pluto at 2.2 km/pix" if it doesn't represent Pluto

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:24:02 2015 No.7376186 >>7375947 Science doesn't give a shit about your convoluted politics

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:37:29 2015 No.7376203 >>7376178 What part of Simulation did you not understand you incredulous ponce?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:43:14 2015 No.7376207 >>7376178 >So the pictures on the image do NOT represent Pluto or Charon? You can think of those pictures as placeholders until >>7375421 get better resolution.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:00:28 2015 No.7376320 >>7376178 wow! stop posting, your dumb is showing

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:10:52 2015 No.7376462 >>7375948 We don't really got much of a choice as to what it's going to check out after Pluto. We're just kind of hoping it encounters something else. Even if it doesn't, it gives us an idea of how dense the Kuiper belt is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:19:54 2015 No.7376473 Is it true that one of the Voyager probes could have visited Pluto but they changed its trajectory to take pictures of Titan instead?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:24:36 2015 No.7376479 Who would have ever guessed Pluto was light orange? I always envisioned it as a purplish gray.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:32:16 2015 No.7376494 >>7376479 We knew it would be slightly red. Our best idea of how it could look was Triton.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:05:30 2015 No.7376796 File: 299 KB, 985x684, nh-pluto-color-7-6-2015_0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] New pics! http://www.nasa.gov/feature/latest-images-of-pluto-from-new-horizons

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:15:34 2015 No.7376811 >>7376796 Thanks, LORRI.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:17:37 2015 No.7376815 >>7376796 What are the chances that any of the observed features are clouds?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:31:17 2015 No.7376833 >>7375447 >have you tried turning it off and on again? >O FUCK WINDOWS 7

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:34:07 2015 No.7376841

>looking at Wikipedia's old articles on Pluto
>there's an explosion of edits on August 24th, 2006
>vandalism everywhere
>(NO I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT IT IS NOT A PLANET NO NO NO)
> (Dammit, just 'cause a bunch of titty-bar hopping drunk astronomers decide pluto is not a planet we change 77 years of history ?)
> (Wikify. Stupid mistake. Plus, this "dwarf planet" garbage is crap.)
>Pluto is the ninth planet of the solar system, regardless of whatever certain arbitrary international groups might be trying to force on the public.
>(Look, I will not accept a blank de-planetization of Pluto until one distinguishes the IAU from society in general.)
>Pluto is a planet in the solar system. "My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nachos".
>PLUTO GOT DIBOED! STRIKE AGAINST THE SCIENTISTS!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:14:43 2015 No.7376914 >>7376841 lel, I'll check that out. Also if those fucking mongs had their way then it wouldn't be "the ninth planet" anyways because asteroid belt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:34:09 2015 No.7376935 >>7376149 >>7375941 Thanks for the mindblow of the day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:37:41 2015 No.7376942 >>7376796 >that creepy smile at the bottom

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:39:54 2015 No.7376949
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ACTUAL SCIENCE QUESTIONS
1. When the probe takes all those measurements in rapid succession, is it just running through a simple roll,pitch,yaw,time schedule or is it a more advanced program based on image recognition? I'm guessing a bit of both. But basically, if pluto explodes right now, will it still take all those pictures as if nothing happened?

2. Why have they configured the trajectory so that both pluto and charon will eclipse the sun if (according to the preview) It's just going to be sending data at that time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:46:51 2015 No.7376958 >>7376815 Judging from the previous shots I'd say the marked features are geological formations and different types of terrain, but I'm not 100% certain.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:52:52 2015 No.7376961
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>>7376949
>That webm
It's on a time schedule. It is on a delay from C travel so they consider all the options they have along the given path, send the instructions, and wait for it to transmit it's findings back once it's done.
Yes, it would image Pluto's hypothetical smoking remains autonomously, since no one could react or control it with that kind of delay by hand.

Could be using the light bent around the planet to identify surface properties or atmosphere composition (if any; probably not)...?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:54:09 2015 No.7376964 File: 65 KB, 192x212, teacher2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7376815 >>7376958 BITCH NUGGAHS A SMALL ASS "NOT EVEN A PLANET"-PLANET LIKE THAT CAN'T KEEP A DENSE ENOUGH ATMOSPHERE FOR CLOUDS LIKE THAT

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:59:04 2015 No.7376969 >>7376149 Don't worry. When it eventually gets close enough to us our sky is going to be awesome. Humanity will probably be long extinct though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:02:24 2015 No.7376975 >>7376949 >it's not even going to orbit what a fucking waste of time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:03:46 2015 No.7376976 >>7376975 yeah, we probably wont get to see those dark spots

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:13:57 2015 No.7376993

>>7376975
>>7376976
>Starting 3.2 days before the closest approach, long-range imaging will include the mapping of Pluto and Charon to 40 km (25 mi) resolution. This is half the rotation period of the Pluto–Charon system and will allow imaging of all sides of both bodies. Coverage will repeat twice per day, to search for changes due to snows or cryovolcanism. Still, due to Pluto's tilt, a portion of the northern hemisphere will be in shadow at all times. During the flyby, LORRI should be able to obtain select images with resolution as high as 50 m/px (if closest distance is around 12,500 km), and MVIC should obtain four-color global dayside maps at 1.6 km resolution. LORRI and MVIC will attempt to overlap their respective coverage areas to form stereo pairs. LEISA will obtain hyperspectral near-infrared maps at 7 km/px globally and 0.6 km/pixel for selected areas.

I dunno, sounds like we should see most of the two worlds.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:37:18 2015 No.7377033

>>7376975
>not going to orbit
How the fuck have you not understood that yet? Also orbiting is the thing that would be a fucking waste. Pluto is dead as a rock. Pluto IS a rock. You can orbit it for 1000 years and you will see exactly the same things as in the first pictures. Meanwhile there's plenty of interesting stuff beyond the planets which we know almost nothing about. There are only 4 probes that have ever gone into deep space, one is dead, and all of them are from an age where calculators that you didn't turn by hand was the coolest shit ever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:39:54 2015 No.7377039 >>7375965 Looks like Ganymede as the source, or one of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:50:41 2015 No.7377056 >>7376949 dang, all that time to get there and it's gonna fly by within just one earth day. >All those pics of Reptilian Nazi pyramids gon be good.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:04:20 2015 No.7377099
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>>7377056
>finally reach the perfect distance for pictures
>on-board system starts automatically updating
>takes 18 hours to restart
>finally turns back on
>turn the camera back on
>camera's software needs updating
>missed the planet
>NASA's face when

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:07:50 2015 No.7377103 >>7376162 That's a forming star not a galaxy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:10:12 2015 No.7377108 >>7377056 Gotta go fast enough to leave the solar system, which is pretty fucking fast.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:49:05 2015 No.7377175 >>7377108 It's like driving from Alaska to Florida non-stop, just to do a real quick drive past Epcot centre at 100 miles an hour, then continue down to Miami and drive off a pier. Cool though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:59:03 2015 No.7377196 File: 116 KB, 908x540, 1400653986648[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7377175 This is pretty much what we're doing to pluto

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:59:32 2015 No.7377198 >>7376320 >>7376203 Thanks but then what are the photos in the pluton flyby pic? Whats the point of flying with new horizon if Voyager already has high quality pic

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:07:21 2015 No.7377209 >>7377196 >Nice "planet" faggot!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:08:57 2015 No.7377214 File: 23 KB, 500x294, empe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7377198 This is just bait. No one can be this retarded.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:53:36 2015 No.7377284
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Goddamn 99% of sci is stupid as shit.

>>7376156
>>7376177
>>7377198
>Pluton

Holy fuck dude, once I'll attribute to some shitty autocorrect, but what the fuck 4 times, hang yourself you piece of shit.

>>7375906
What the other guy said about the speck of dust across the street. The image you posted (besides being false color, for some reason people believe that's what you'd see if you were out in space) is of a dust cloud lightyears across. It's easy to get what look like detailed pictures when is 10s or 100s or thousands of k's (or more maybe) per pixel.

>>7375936
ebin

>>7376156
The only thing worse than your lack of willingness to correct your spelling is your lack of willingness to FUCKING READ. READ NIGGA FUCKIN READ.

>>7375947
And what have you done today to advance science forward, on any front? Not even your country, but you personally? Nothing.

>>7376949
Actual good questions for once, bravo /sci/.

>>7376975
>>7377175
Are you two retarded? I'm not even going to try and use a cute analogy to explain this, it's simple as shit. It's not like driving anywhere, and it's certainly not a waste you mongoloids. If you want to get to pluto you have to go fast. If you want to go fast you have to burn a lot of fuel. If you want to slow down when you get there you have to burn even more fuel. If you want to have that fuel available you need to burn even more fuel to get up to speed in the first place, and that adds a fuckton of weight that has to be lifted into orbit. Do really you not see the rationale behind just doing a flyby?

>>7377198
There is no point to this or anything else, so just hang yourself so everyone else with more than just the torn brain stem you're working with can enjoy the new pictures.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:21:01 2015 No.7377343

>>7376975
how fucking dumb are you?

it is near impossible to send any meaningful probe to orbit pluto because
>its far as fuck
>because it is far as fuck you would need to essentially more than DOUBLE the fuel used to get New horizons there.
b-but they did it without double the fuel
>nigga, lrn 2 detla-v
>the time required for an orbital insertion would probably take 20+ years. WAY too fucking long for any agency to approve such a mission and way too fucking long for any meaningful power source to be used. RTGs only put out enough useful power for about 12 years before major science systems need to be shut down

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:27:45 2015 No.7377357 >>7377103 Supposed to be the main Star Wars galaxy; the spin being a glaring error, but author's intent works here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:36:16 2015 No.7377377 >>7377284 feeling better now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:53:33 2015 No.7377392 >>7377377 Only a little.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:53:33 2015 No.7377393 >>7377343 just use parachute to slow it down

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:10:19 2015 No.7377410 >>7375965 What's wrong with being a visual learner? >>7377284 Maybe he is french you fool >>7376177 Ignore the neckbeards, those pictures are of Ganymede standing in for what the Pluto fly-by will look like when it does take place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:13:52 2015 No.7377418 >>7376841 Good, keep up the fight, Pluto will always be a planet to me. If we didn't see Pluto as a planet this thread wouldn't be so popular right now. Look at Ceres, even with ayy lmao cities we've still forgotten about it in favour of Pluto.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:17:11 2015 No.7377425 >>7376796 fakin hell, how good is that camera to get that res from 8 million miles?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 02:43:04 2015 No.7377705 >>7375428 >>7375447 >>7375477 well I'm crazy or you copied answers from last thread..

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 02:50:16 2015 No.7377716 >>7377284 "good question bravo ihihih" >doesn't answer to jack shit YOU should hang yourself

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 03:02:58 2015 No.7377730 >>7377410 he probably is because the french always have a space before their punctuation for some weird reason.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 03:45:30 2015 No.7377777 File: 20 KB, 566x380, lorri.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7377425 Reflector telescope, CCD 1024x1024 px panchromatic, color from four-color medium angle imager (fov 5.7°).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 03:47:44 2015 No.7377779 >>7377777 Quints of information. >5.7° fov >5 7s

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 04:11:56 2015 No.7377803

>>7377284
>Goddamn 99% of sci is stupid as shit.
Exhibit A, ladies and gentlemen.

>I'm not even going to try and use a cute analogy to explain this, it's simple as shit blah blah blah I AM SO BUTTMAD RIGHT NOW
It wasn't a criticism, it was just a light-hearted analogy. I don't care if it's 'correct', it was a fucking joke man. Wipe that sand out of your vagina.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 04:59:41 2015 No.7377834 >>7376013 Turian here. You guys better stay the fuck in your little Shit solar system

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:05:13 2015 No.7377838 >>7377779 unsurprising, been haunted by number 7 all of my life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:08:16 2015 No.7377842 File: 31 KB, 252x248, 1434837847429.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7377777

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:14:29 2015 No.7377845 I'm excited as fuck niggas, can't wait to have a high rez Pluto background

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:18:33 2015 No.7377850 File: 2 KB, 244x226, jokesonyou.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7377803 >I don't care if it's 'correct', it was a fucking joke man. >it was a fucking joke

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:28:02 2015 No.7377860

>>7376949
Most cameras in spacecraft do not rely on light exposure the same way our traditional cameras do to take photos. It does not matter if the light from the sun is eclipsed.

Yes, it would take those pictures anyways. It is set on a trajectory which would not change if the planet blew up and did not damage the craft.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:31:04 2015 No.7377866
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All these photos and none of pluto other then it's orange.

Here is some photos. We've discovered that pluto is actually lopsided. One side is significantly different the other.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:32:18 2015 No.7377868 >>7377866 It's black and white photography.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:34:58 2015 No.7377870 >>7377868 The technology is much more complicated then pictures you know.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:35:52 2015 No.7377871

>>7375906

Nebulae sizes are in the order of light-years, not to mention that stars light up the gas and dust. Pluto on the other hand is very tiny and it does not produce it's own light.

It seems that you can see more detail on nebulae but those structures are thousands of times bigger than our solar system.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:37:52 2015 No.7377872 The reboot would make sense. The anomaly that happened is mostly unknown but loss of communication happened because it went into safe mode.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:40:52 2015 No.7377875 And they find an ocean of oil of pluto, starting the industrial space race.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 06:10:28 2015 No.7377903 i want high rez shots of sedna

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 06:14:26 2015 No.7377908 >>7377875 We already know there are oceans of hydrocarbons on Titan which is significantly larger and closer than Pluto. There's more hydrocarbons there than there's oxygen in the Earth atmosphere to burn them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 06:17:44 2015 No.7377912 >>7377903 Why?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 06:40:45 2015 No.7377935 File: 24 KB, 305x261, Huygens_shoreline.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7377875 Look no further than Titan: liquid ethane, methane, and propane, plus a nice shoreline.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 06:49:09 2015 No.7377945 >>7377875 >industrial space race Sounds good Hurry up and run out of oil, Earth. We got space to pillage and plunder!

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 06:55:38 2015 No.7377958
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>From Nasa's last bulletin, the next images will be taken the 7th july at 22:41 UT. It means that these photos will be taken 6.6 days prior to "contact".

>The expected diameters in pixels on the LORRI images will be :
>Pluto 59 px
>Charon 31 px
>Styx 0.5 px
>Nix 1.1 px
>Kerberos 0.8 px
>Hydra 1.2 px

>Resolution will be : 39 km/px

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 07:27:10 2015 No.7377991 >>7377958 Will Nix, Kerberos and Hydra be bright enough to show up?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 07:35:01 2015 No.7377995 >>7377991 Yes, they have been visible in previous images.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 07:39:00 2015 No.7377999 >>7377995 Really? I only saw one of them with Pluto and Charon blacked out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 07:46:07 2015 No.7378002 File: 56 KB, 374x450, sk_still.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7377999 I guess this is the one you mean.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 09:11:08 2015 No.7378070 >>7377875 >oil just not worth it. Helium-3 on the other hand. http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Preparing_for_the_Future/Space_for_Earth/Energy/Helium-3_mining_on_the_lunar_surface

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 09:26:40 2015 No.7378087 >>7378070 How much He-3 is on Pluto? Mercury or the Earthmoon would be more practical targets.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 10:09:06 2015 No.7378154 >>7378087 Mercury might be a little hot though. I wonder how much He3 Mars has. It could be used to power future colonies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 11:51:48 2015 No.7378284 >>7377393 that's great anon except you'd need gravity + air resistance ...in space

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 11:54:13 2015 No.7378289 >>7378284 Could you use Neptune for aerobraking and then travel the last few AU on foot?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 11:55:13 2015 No.7378293 >>7378289 Scratch that, I forgot that Pluto's orbit is significantly more inclined.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 12:42:45 2015 No.7378391 >>7377705 The shills are at it again

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 12:53:35 2015 No.7378407 Plutonian here, go away. You've been warned.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:01:47 2015 No.7378420 File: 587 KB, 620x572, nebula.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7375906 I always hear people say that the tendrils of nebulae are the size of our solar system. But they do they mean the tip of them(red) or the whole tendril(Yellow)?

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:17:55 2015 No.7378443

>>7376473
That would be Voyager 1, which also sacrificed Uranus and Neptune's systems for the sake of hanging out a bit at Saturn. Titan is the largest and (arguably) most interesting moon in the solar system, and the body most like a "world" as we know it, but decades ago all they knew was that it was large and surrounded by a thick atmosphere. Voyager took a highly anticipated crack at it, but unfortunately none of Voyager's instruments could penetrate Titan's yellow clouds.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:25:09 2015 No.7378457

>>7376949
>is it just running through a simple roll,pitch,yaw,time schedule or is it a more advanced program based on image recognition?
The probe will run through a predefined schedule of observations, but this probe and interplanetary probes in general use a form of image recognition to keep track of their orientations in space. New Horizons is equipped with star trackers; dedicated cameras and telescopes that keep an eye on a bright star (many spacecraft have used Canopus as their tracking target, but I don't know what New Horizons looks at off the top of my head) so that the spacecraft can measure how much it has rotated.

>Why have they configured the trajectory so that both pluto and charon will eclipse the sun if it's just going to be sending data at that time
Sending radio signals while the bodies occult the Sun (and the Earth) is actually an observation! By watching the radio signal from here (Earth) as Pluto or Charon moves into the signal's path will tell us about any atmosphere or exosphere that may be present around those worlds.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:29:14 2015 No.7378466 >>7377425 For what it's worth, that image is heavily processed with stacking of multiple exposures and deconvolution. LORRI is really more a telescope than what we would think of as a "Camera" though. After all, "Long Range" is right there in its name.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:35:48 2015 No.7378474

>>7377912
Well, I can imagine a few reasons he might want to see Sedna.

Sedna is the only known and, presumably, largest object in the "Sednoid" class, which are the bodies that live as far from the Sun as anything that can still be said to be a part of the solar system. Sedna's vast distance from the Sun makes it a lonely and altogether unlikely world. Perhaps the most truly "alien" place within a lightyear of here. Sedna is on average more than ten times as far from the Sun as Pluto. It's also one of the most colorful objects known in the solar system. Really, I think I would quite like to see it, too.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:42:11 2015 No.7378481
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>>7377999
Hydra is showing up in the full-resolution "1x1 binning" images now, although it's still so small and dim that its appearance in these images is most likely dominated by noise. Hydra appears to encompass as many as ten or so pixels in this raw (but contrast-stretched) image from July 3, for example, while an object of its size "should" only cover about 1 pixel at that distance.

Thus, although we can clearly detect it, we can't really say anything about its shape or surface at this time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:42:41 2015 No.7378483 >>7378474 It's way too far for a probe to reach. Has Voyager even gotten that far?

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:44:05 2015 No.7378487

>>7378420
When they say "tendrils," they're referring to those tiny fingers poking out of the big "Pillars." Look at the penis-shaped protrusion approximately halfway point along the thing you highlighted in yellow, for instance. That's what people refer to as a tendril. The thing you highlighted in red is about the right size, as well.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:47:59 2015 No.7378492

>>7378483
Voyager 2 is over 100 AU from the Sun and Earth by now. Sedna has a highly elliptical orbit, so even though it is sometimes as far as a thousand AU from the Sun, it is currently only about 90 AU away.

It's still not a likely target for exploration, of course. New Horizons' existence is essentially a miracle, and it's the last look at the trans-neptunian solar system that we're going to have for a long, long time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:48:28 2015 No.7378493 File: 8 KB, 1280x720, sedna-orbit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7378483 Voyager is further away than Sedna because Sedna is at perihelion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:51:17 2015 No.7378499 >>7378492 It's the last look we'll have past Jupiter since Cassini will also be crashed next year.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:53:03 2015 No.7378502

>>7378493
Interestingly, yet another diagram that represents Pluto with a purpleish color. As someone exemplified earlier in this thread, many people for some reason were accustomed to believe that Pluto is purple. Seeing it in all its red-orange glory is confusing and surprising quite a few casual onlookers!

This is strange to me, because it has been known for decades that Pluto is among the reddest worlds in the solar system, as are many trans-neptunian objects. It has even been known for a long time that Charon is mysteriously darker and drabber than Pluto!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:54:47 2015 No.7378505 >>7378492 10 years isn't even that long in space exploration terms, if only we had the money and manpower to send a probe a year...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:55:54 2015 No.7378506 File: 10 KB, 143x134, 1373982679700.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7378493 >Orbital Period: 11,400 years

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:57:03 2015 No.7378510

>>7378499
A Uranus flagship mission has been in the top 3 recommendations from the Decadal Survey for several decades running, now, though. Of course the funding climate in the next decade probably won't improve very much, but after JWST and SLS, some time in the late 2020s or 2030s perhaps, a new Cassini-class outer planets flagship wouldn't be beyond reasonable imagination.

When I said "a long, long time," I was imagining something rather longer than that.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 14:04:00 2015 No.7378523

>>7378493
I'm too retarded to find out where Sedna is located right now and where Voyager 2 is, but could Voyager 2 take a usable photo (ie. more than just a few lit pixels) of Sedna and transmit it back, if it's instruments were still working and it had enough power? Or are they too far apart?

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 14:04:03 2015 No.7378524

According to the schedule released in yesterday's press teleconference, the first post-anomaly image from the near encounter phase, which has officially begun as of today, should be on the ground by now. We will likely see it this afternoon. This image will show exactly the same side of Pluto that will be seen at closest approach with approximately double the highest resolution that we have seen so far.

Pluto will encompass 59 pixels, and Charon will encompass 31. The minor moons will remain either unresolved or barely resolved (meaning that their true images will cover no more than one or two pixels).

I hope that we will see these images sometime this afternoon.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 14:11:17 2015 No.7378531

>>7378523
Without even looking anything up, I can tell you that the answer is definitely "no." Remember that just because two objects are similarly distant from the Sun or the Earth, they aren't necessarily near each other. In fact, they could be up to twice as far apart. Think of the numbers on the face of a clock; they are all about the same distance from the center, and while most of them aren't as far apart as 6 and 12 (or any other maximum distance pair), even relatively close by numbers like 12 and 3 are as far apart as any number is from the center.

Although Voyager's disabled instruments will never function again, New Horizons is working just fine. After the Pluto encounter, the investigators hope to use NH to study another TNO, which will be possible because somewhere along NH's future path, there is probably a small object. It won't be Sedna or Eris or any of the trans-neptunian dwarf planets you've heard of, because those are only a handful among many tens of thousands of objects in that distance regime, but it will be something. So, if Voyager's instruments were working, perhaps it could observe something. In any case, look forward to New Horizon's "post-season" mission!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 14:23:37 2015 No.7378553 File: 492 KB, 800x770, 1427983384028.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >people are excited to see the picture of a sphere >a fucking SPHERE what a SHITTY time to be alive

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 14:25:52 2015 No.7378563 >>7378553 You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 14:26:24 2015 No.7378565 >>7378524 What the hell cant nasa afford better cameras then 2001 nokia phones

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 14:36:35 2015 No.7378589 File: 198 KB, 1028x1513, thatsthejoke2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7377850 Isn't it time to get into your hugbox, asspie?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 14:37:44 2015 No.7378592 >>7378531 is it up to NH to discover those TNOs that it will encounter or they already know what objects it will pass by? and what technique would it use to detect new objects at all?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 14:41:19 2015 No.7378600 >>7378553 >anime >pleb attitude to science Kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 14:43:18 2015 No.7378608 What if we miss pluto? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P23UFulnwGU

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 14:44:45 2015 No.7378612

>>7378565
New Horizons will is still more than ten million miles away from Pluto. That's 50 times farther away than the Moon is from the Earth. The moon is about twice as big as Pluto, so it looks like its twice as big at the same difference. Thus, if you were riding along with New Horizons and looked out at Pluto right now, Pluto would seem to be 25 times smaller than the full moon. Try taking a picture of the moon with your Nokia phone tonight, and see how many features you can resolve. Your phone can blow the image up to 50 megapixels, sure, but it can't produce any more detail than what its meager 2 millimeter lens can resolve. LORRI can see more detail on Pluto than you can see on the Moon, even though Pluto looks 25 times smaller. NASA built a camera that is at least 25 times better than your phone, ten years ago, and it works in space (your phone would be fried after a few weeks in space).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 14:49:51 2015 No.7378626 >>7378506 >tfw you may well be dead even by 2076 unless I make it to at least 94 years old.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 14:51:16 2015 No.7378630

>>7378592
Since New Horizons has been concentrating on observing Pluto, the investigators studied data from Hubble to look for potential follow up targets for New Horizons. Several potential targets were identified in the past year, and one of them is said to be preferred based on its relative location to New Horizons' planned trajectory.

Not much has been said about this so far, beyond announcing that they had performed the candidate search, because the Pluto encounter remains the focus. After the Pluto encounter, if the spacecraft is healthy, there will probably be more news.

Keep in mind that any follow-up target would be a small, lumpy rock, more like Nix or Hydra than Pluto or Charon. None of the known big round trans-neptunian worlds like Eris or Sedna is close to Pluto right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 14:52:17 2015 No.7378632 >>7378626 Feels good being a millennial.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 14:56:35 2015 No.7378641 Nibiru Planet X get ready for the storm of Grey android troops on your beaches prepare your anguses for the War I have seen it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSnU_LKi5vs

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 15:02:54 2015 No.7378654
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>>7378632
I dunno, it's nice being able to remember the world before internet, vidya, smartphones, et al. I can distinctly recall my first experiences with NES, Sega, 28.8k modem, having to disconnect the phone jack and plug in the modem cable to dial up, cassette tapes, recording stuff with a VCR, Napster, wireless phones, flip cell phones (and rotary dial phones for that matter -- which we used till '94), all that shit...

And of course when Pluto was still a planet.

>pic unrelated

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 15:13:23 2015 No.7378674 File: 69 KB, 393x664, jimmiesbroda.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7377284 Just take a look a this mad pluton

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 15:14:57 2015 No.7378678

>>7378654
I'll also be 94 in 2076 like that other guy, and I can still remember NES as my first video game console (because my parents had one, even though it was a bit before my time), using dial up (it was 56k by the time I was old enough to understand bitrates though), having one phone line, using cassette tapes (though of course CDs had been common since the 80s and probably for your entire life), VCRs (still have a couple), my family's first cell phone (slightly before the era of Nokia brick phones--this one took AA batteries, was about the size of a TV remote, and had a mouthpiece that folded out), and, hell, I remembre my grandmother even had a rotary telephone that continued to work until the phone company stopped supporting calls with pulse signaling!

So I'm not sure someone born in the 80s has a particularly vastly different experience than someone born in the 90s. Of course, the kids born in the 2000s (some of whom are in fucking high school now, goddammit) are another story.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 15:21:25 2015 No.7378696

>>7378678
Yea CDs were around, but not that common (nor as cheap as cassettes) where I lived (small town bumfuck Canada). We had to stop using our rotary phone for the same reason, phone company said they'd stop supporting it. TBH though, I remember at the time we had been bugging my dad for ages to update to something more modern.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 15:50:30 2015 No.7378755 >>7378553 Get stuffed little anime girl. It's Pluto time.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 15:52:39 2015 No.7378760
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>>7377935
What am I looking at here? Because if I didn't know any better, I'd be wondering if they edited a shot of the west-coast from the air and told us It's from Titan.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:02:10 2015 No.7378780

>>7378760
Well, even if you believe an international conspiracy between an agency of the US government, a collaboration of about 20 European governments, and a combination of public and private universities worldwide could be kept under wraps without leaking, if that were true, then you should be able to find a place on earth in satellite imagery that matches up with that coastline exactly. Of course, a geologist could look at it and tell you all about how the forms you see on Titan's coasts are unique and indicative of its strange composition (methane lakes etc.).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:06:34 2015 No.7378785 File: 316 KB, 2135x1674, nh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] New Horizons documentary. Get hype! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ0W_PFjx68

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:07:06 2015 No.7378786 >>7378760 You won't see anything like that on Earth. That is a sea of methane and the solid you see is actually Ice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:15:25 2015 No.7378805 >>7378510 Uranus or Neptune mission would still take 20 years to get there with current technologies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:18:16 2015 No.7378813 >>7378678 Trust me kids born in the 90s have a different experience than us. We were kids to teens in the 90s while 90s kids were early chilhood up to kids in the 90s. We lived in a time were technology bloom while they are accustomed to tech.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:21:07 2015 No.7378819 >>7378493 Man they really need to plan a mission for 2076 for Sedna.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:22:36 2015 No.7378824 File: 69 KB, 985x684, evil pluto.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7376796 >>7376942 I see it. Does it remind anyone else of an old smiley?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:22:56 2015 No.7378825 >>7378819 We need a 2029-2036 mission for Apophis.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:23:13 2015 No.7378826 >>7378608 >a quirky "science" girl to fill diversity quotas I fucking hate modern NASA.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:36:56 2015 No.7378852

>>7378813
Wait, I made a stupid mistake: I'll be 84 in 2076, not 94. So I was born 10 years after you. My argument was based on the claim "as someone born in the decade after you, many of my childhood experiences were similar to yours."

I mean, my family got our first cell phone, computer, internet connection, cordless phone, etc. during my lifetime. I think it's true that there was more technology in my time than in yours, but it's not like you were born in the 1920s, and lived through the invention of literally every component of modern life. When you're a kid, everything seems new if it's new to you. Even though computers existed for decades before I was born, it felt like a change when my family got ours.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:37:01 2015 No.7378853 >>7378824 Yes, it does. I was thinking maybe more of GOATSE though. EBIN! >>7378826 You find that quirky? You poor, poor wizard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:39:38 2015 No.7378858 >>7378502 The image also has Uranus in light green when it should be light blue

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:44:01 2015 No.7378866
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>>7378858
Although in reality Uranus has a quite blueish color, the Voyager 2 images (which only approximate natural color, using Orange, Green, and ultraviolet filters) showed it with a distinctive greenish hue. So I don't find it very egregious to represent Uranus with a "green" as a shorthand to distinguish it from the much more deeply blue Neptune.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:44:25 2015 No.7378867

>>7378852
Nah I was born in 89, you were born in 88. We probably share similar childhoods. My first console was the NES which I had it for a while because my big brother had the Genesis for himself on his room. Later around 93 I remember getting the Genesis with a Sega CD which was my birthday gift because my brother got an SNES. I pretty much played Genesis + Sega CD all the time growing up. After my big bro got tired of games I also got his SNES. As for Cellphones I remember those big ass phones my dad used to have. And computing then was shitty as fuck. I remember waiting forever to connect to the internet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:45:25 2015 No.7378871 >>7378853 >You find that quirky? You poor, poor wizard. Not a wizard but I don't like girls who got ahead because of their gender.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:46:58 2015 No.7378879 File: 23 KB, 570x298, uranus_and_neptune_hst.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7378866

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:47:17 2015 No.7378880 >>7378867 OP who started this diversion (in >>7378626) I was born in 82.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:51:23 2015 No.7378890 >>7378871 OK buddy. >>>/r9k/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:51:58 2015 No.7378892 >>7378879 Fuck they look the same color.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:52:58 2015 No.7378896 >>7378890 >being this defensive about women >>>/tumblr/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:53:16 2015 No.7378897 >>7378892 They're twins. They even swapped places in the past.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:56:57 2015 No.7378905 File: 99 KB, 1720x1720, naturalcoloraproxuranus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7378879 >>7378866 Did a small edit to try to fix the color of Uranus.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:01:27 2015 No.7378922
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>tfw Right now Uranus looks 90% the same as Neptune

Seriously it makes me mad that we don't send more probes to the far solar system. We should always have a probe on each planet and change them every 10 years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:02:50 2015 No.7378929 >>7378626 >Born in 95 >Got the best of the 80's and 90's without having to endure through the shitty parts for long I feel bad for the fools that had to endure years of that awful dial-up internet bullshit

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:05:59 2015 No.7378937

>>7378922
Last year we had one for Mercury, Venus, Saturn and half a dozen for Mars. Recently we lost Mercury and Venus and in some time will gain Jupiter (Juno) and possibly Venus (Akatsuki).
In 2017 Cassini and Juno will be destroyed so we're left with next to nothing until Bepi Colombo and JUICE come into place.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:10:25 2015 No.7378950

>>7378937
There's a huge problem with space agencies right now. If this was done smartly we could share the burden of launching probes in space. Have different agencies tackle different planets. Also why don't we create a more standardized probe so we can reduce cost and always have probes in the planets. Like make a Gas Giant probe and a Rock Dwarf probe. Then have those probes sent to different planets.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:10:27 2015 No.7378951

>>7378937
2015 was a landmark year for planetary science, because in the last year we had probes active at all the planets you mentioned (4, not including Earth), plus probes active at a comet, an asteroid/dwarf planet, and a trans-neptunian dwarf planetary system. Not to mention three operating landers (two rovers on Mars and a lander on a comet) at the same time, which I don't think has ever happened before (correct me if I'm wrong).

This has been perhaps the most active year in planetary exploration ever. We probably won't beat 2015's records until interplanetary spaceflight becomes much cheaper.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:13:07 2015 No.7378960 >>7378951 There's also a lunar lander in form of China's Yutu. It failed as a rover but is still working as a stationary unit.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:18:01 2015 No.7378969

>>7378950
>why don't we create a more standardized probe
Interplanetary launches are still so infrequent that it's not worth it. If your next "gas giant probe" won't launch for 5 more years, why would you use the same technology as the one you launched yesterday, instead of building it with the most up-to-date components possible?

Although not "standardized," every generation of space probes is directly based on the one before it. There's a very strong "family tree" running from Voyager through Galileo, Ulysses, Cassini, and beyond. In fact, much of the equipment on New Horizons is closely related to Cassini, since they were being built at around the same time.

But I think I've argued about this with you before. Your position is valid and I think you should advocate for it if you want to. It will certainly become more and more relevant as the cost of interplanetary launches goes down and their frequency increases. But I hope you won't believe that they way things are done now is a consequence of some kind of incompetence. The folks at NASA, more than perhaps any other government agency, really know what they're doing.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:21:51 2015 No.7378975

>>7378950
I guess if all you want to do is keep a watchful eye than a cheap ass probe like the Indian MOM is a good option.
Generally there aren't many space agencies that can manage planetary exploration. Even JAXA hasn't managed to achieve orbit and the Russians have failed at every attempt since the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
ESA and NASA are the only serious players and they're obviously coordinating their efforts. Rosetta was the first non-NASA mission to go beyond Mars/Venus.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:23:45 2015 No.7378978 >>7378960 Oh shit! That's true! I didn't include any lunar exploration in my list, but with those additions (and LRO, which continues to operate!) the year is even more impressive for international spaceflight.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:30:45 2015 No.7378991 [DELETED]

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>>7378632
>>7378654
>>7378678
>>7378696
>>7378813
>>7378852
>>7378867
>>7378929
>>7378867
>>7378880
Reminder that 9/11 robbed the current 18-20 year olds of decent childhoods. 1995 and up is not "le 90s kids", it's millennials. 95 is not "the most underrated birth year", it's deservedly hated.

Being born in 89, when I grew up in the 90s, kids still played with Lego, played outside without fear of pedos kidnapping them, and acted like kids 'till they hit 14, like they should. Much more family-friendly and wholesome, less degeneracy.

But then, starting around the turn of 9/11, and certainly by the time of Obummer's inauguration in 2009-2010, I noticed kids were declining in quality. Boys liked to dress up as girls and wear makeup. They played outside less and became couch potatoes. They loved Spongebob, a sick, twisted, perverse, flamboyant piece of kitsch who signed the posteriors of muscle men and tore through his underwear during a concert, exposing himself. They started playing shit like the Xbox 360, PS3, and Wii.

Most of all, millennials watched shows like "Squirrel Boy", "Foster's home for imaginary friends", "Billy & mandy", "My Gym partner is a monkey", "Camp lazlo", "Hannah montana", and "iCarly" which taught them to be bratty, evil little shits and disrespect their parents while screaming at the top of their lungs constantly.

There was also a huge shift in personality. When I was going to school we only caught the tail end of that whole 'self esteem' movement that turns children into self centered asshole who expect the world to be given to them. 95 and up, that shit was entrenched from the first grade.

It's weird, but the 95 and up generation just doesn't know anything about classic video games, anime, music, movies, or TV shows. In terms of classic gaming, they didn't care about games as kids because late 2000s parenting prevented this generation from playing video games until MW2 came out.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:31:06 2015 No.7378992

>>7378975
>JAXA hasn't managed to achieve orbit
JAXA placed an orbiter around the Moon in 1990. Hayabusa also orbited its asteroid target. Of course, they haven't orbited any extraterrestrial planets, if that's what you meant.

But in spirit you are definitely right. NASA's record is really quite amazing. Total mission failures are a lot more common in spaceflight in general than they are at NASA.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:33:00 2015 No.7378996 >>7378969 >why would you use the same technology as the one you launched yesterday, To get comparable results. Particularly if we're talking Neptune and Uranus which appear more similar than Jupiter and Saturn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:34:16 2015 No.7378999 >>7378992 Hayabusa didn't orbit Itokawa, they orbited the sun together. It's not practical to orbit such a tiny rock.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:34:50 2015 No.7379000 >>7378991 Did you copy this from /pol/? Hi /pol/

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:05:56 2015 No.7379057

>>7378896
>being a supreme gentlemen over a completely boring and normal human female who doesn't speak monotone.
>hurr durr SJW tumblr!

I find feminists annoying too, but you're really overreacting here. Now let's talk about space shit again and try to restrain yourself from being triggered by anything with tits.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:12:04 2015 No.7379070 >>7378457 That's bretty great information. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:24:49 2015 No.7379091 >>7378996 You're spending large amounts of money, planning and time to launch something into space and you don't want to do it with the most cutting edge tech to get the most bang for your buck? Don't be so stupid anon.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:31:42 2015 No.7379103
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>>7378760
>I'm so fucking retarded I think NASA would use some fucking retarded way of faking images because it's all my tiny brain can comprehend.
I mean it's okay to be a dumb conspiritard, but not realizing that other people are much smarter than you makes you REALLY dumb, and an arrogant asshole.
Pic related is completely made from scratch in a computer, probably in 3 hours by a 13-year old with a pirate bay copy of the program.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 19:47:39 2015 No.7379248 Any HD pics of Neptune?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 20:53:35 2015 No.7379352 >>7379248 I can send you HD pics of my trident

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 21:55:08 2015 No.7379438 >>7379352 Why the fuck did you not go with uranus?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:04:37 2015 No.7379447 >>7379438 His anus is so loose that an HD picture of it is too large to be saved on his computer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:17:53 2015 No.7379470 File: 53 KB, 985x493, nh-pluto-map.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/News-Center/News-Article.php?page=20150707 Where the fuck are those dark spots?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:29:46 2015 No.7379485 >>7378824 I see a chode

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:30:52 2015 No.7379488 >>7379470 something that doesn't reflect light very well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:31:03 2015 No.7379489 >>7379470 Mouths

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:34:49 2015 No.7379496
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>>7379470
The shapes of any albedo features right now are obscured by the low resolution of the observation, meaning that the dark areas may have a shape that turns out to be very different from circular spots. In some ways, their regularly repeating pattern and dominance of about half of their hemisphere makes them reminiscent of the "tiger stripes" on Enceladus! Even from this great distance, Pluto already has one of the most interesting surfaces in the solar system. Exciting and unique features are apparent all over the map.
Contrast this with this year's mapping of Ceres: There are very interesting features on that dwarf planet, but they are all small, localized structures, like the "bright spots" and the "Pyramid mountain." Global disc views of Ceres spanning <100 pixels showed mostly a grey expanse, while global views of Pluto are almost Mars-like in their variety of albedo variations, local and global.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:39:23 2015 No.7379502
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>>7379248
Yes, from Voyager 2. Back during the Neptune encounter in 1989, you would have seen low quality versions of the images in the daily newspaper or on the nightly news, if you were alive. Luckily, the raw Voyager data itself is much better than what those reproductions would have led you believe. Now that computers and internet access are common, NASA offers raw imagery from all its probes for download, and amateur image processing enthusiasts have been able to study the datasets and draw out modern-quality images from these ancient observations.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:45:19 2015 No.7379511
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>>7379248
And for fun, here's a webm of Neptune slowly rotating beneath Voyager. One frame of this video encompasses 5 seconds of real time. Even sped up 125 times, the motion of Neptune's clouds is soothingly slow and hypnotic. Kubrickesque. I love it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:50:24 2015 No.7379525
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>>7379248
And here is the highest-resolution global mosaic of Neptune ever produced, assembled by image processing genius Bjorn Jonnson. This version displays extreme contrast enhancement in order to bring out the detailed structure of Neptune's clouds, which is often hidden in images by a uniform hazy blue color.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:51:49 2015 No.7379528 >>7379502 >>7379511 I've always thought that those high white clouds on Neptune look quite welcoming. Obviously it'd be difficult but building a little floating city there would be comfy as fuck.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:55:33 2015 No.7379539

>>7379528
Indeed there's something oddly comforting about Neptune. Maybe it has something to do with its gentle movement (as opposed to the Lovecraftian turbulence of Jupiter), its peaceful blue hue, or its Goldilocks not-too-big-to-imagine, not-too-small-to-be-big size. Maybe it's just because its color makes it look like Earth. In any case, it's the teddy bear planet.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:03:43 2015 No.7379562

>>7378922
Well, um... I'm just letting you know this before you say that to someone important and they chuckle.

Uranus and Neptune are practically the same, their composition is very similar. They look the same not due to lack of technology but because they actually look the same.

Like Saturn and Jupiter, they have helium and hydrogen but they both are icy.

Uranus is a lot paler though.

Uranus and Neptune both get their blue as opposed to red color from such as water, ammonia, and methane "ices".

Uranus is the coldest planet in the solar system.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:04:14 2015 No.7379565 >>7379539 I actually kinda prefer Jupiter over Saturn. Jupiter's got a lot of detail in its' belts so I feel like I can see more. Saturn's a bit less clear and the yellowy colour feels a bit more like "warning" colours. Uranus is just a big hazy fart.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:07:42 2015 No.7379577

>>7379565
Saturn has that slightly toxic yellow color that Titan and Venus share. They just look like clouds of something stinky that you wouldn't want in your house. Jupiter is fascinating, but it gives me the feeling that you could go insane if you just sat up close and watched the colors swirl for too long. In fact, I like that so much as the premise of a short story that I wonder if it doesn't already exist. "Jupiter madness." I guess it's a bit like the premise of the movie Sunshine--and I guess up close the Sun's shifting, bubbling surface patterns are similarly enthralling (although they really creep me out quite a bit more than Jupiter's psychedelically swirls).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:13:23 2015 No.7379589 >>7379565 Uranus is a big hazy fart. The only interesting things about it is why is it sideways and it is cold as hell.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:16:14 2015 No.7379599
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>>7379589
And of course all the big planets have fun moons that come as a bonus for exploration.

Uranus has Miranda, which is one of the strangest places in the solar system with its huge worldwide cracks and scarps. Nobody knows how that can even happen without tearing the thing completely apart.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:17:35 2015 No.7379606 >>7379599 So Uranus just has Miranda as an interesting moon? That's a bit pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:22:10 2015 No.7379614 File: 103 KB, 1150x800, Uranus_moons[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7379606 Uranus has 27 moons, including four that are much larger than Miranda, which all have strikingly different colors and surface features.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:25:32 2015 No.7379623 File: 831 KB, 1600x1700, index[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7379606 Uranus also has a little-studied and funky sideways ring system, barely detectable in existing observations, which could hold important secrets.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:28:32 2015 No.7379632 File: 25 KB, 418x301, umbriel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Uranus looks comfy as fuck. Just imagine having this view from Earth.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:31:54 2015 No.7379639

>>7379614

Yeah but do they have anything weird or interesting about them?

All the gas giants have interesting moons.

Jupiter's trippin' with four of them

Saturn's got it's motherfucking attack on Titan and the mega-wall-nut Iapetus

Neptune's got cool dark Triton with it's geysers and shit

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:39:16 2015 No.7379657
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>>7379606
And speaking of Uranus, here's some information that is actually relevant to New Horizon's exploration of Pluto.

This image shows three views of Uranus' largest moon, Titania. Pluto is approximately the same size as Titania, so at the same resolution, it would subtend about the same number of pixels. These views show Titania at 5.0 km/px, 3.0 km/px, and 1.7 km/px. This gives you an idea of what kinds of surface details we expect to be able to see on Pluto as resolution increases. At 5 km/px, despite seeing a very clear view of the world, you can only really see albedo variations. Nothing about the surface topography, except right around the terminator, comes through. Even the largest craters are hidden. At 3.0 km/px, a few of the largest craters become noticeable depressions, and there are hints of many more. But it's not until the 1.7 km/px observations, including the more oblique phase angle that comes with the closest approach of a flyby, that the most revealing features like global faults or central mounds in craters become apparent.

This illustrates why its important to remember that any features you think you see on Pluto right now, or even in the next few days, are most likely just your brain playing a trick on you and making you see a crater or a mountain where it's really just an albedo variation.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:47:13 2015 No.7379664

>>7379639
If you are actually interested, here's a whitepaper from the last round of submissions for the currently in-force Planetary Science Decadal Survey outlining "The Case for a Uranus Orbiter."

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/decadal/opag/UranusOrbiter_v7.pdf

Highlights include:
>What is the bulk composition and internal structure of Uranus?
>Why this is important: Composition and structure are the properties that define ice giants
>as distinct from terrestrial and gas giant planets. Knowledge of the ice to rock and ice to
>gas ratios as well as the absolute abundance of certain key species, such as noble gases
>and water, tells us about conditions in the planetary nebula and the planet formation process.

>Where and how is the magnetic field generated?
>Why this is important: As mentioned above, field generation has implications for the
>planet’s internal structure, marking regions that are both conductive and convective.
>Uranus may also offer us our best chance to study details of a giant-planet dynamo in action.

>How is internal heat transported to the surface?
>Why this is important: The heat left over from the planetary formation process is
>important for the evolution of the planet’s interior, and its transport to the surface is an
>important factor controlling convection, circulation, and the temperature structure in the
>fluid interior and atmosphere. For unknown reasons, Uranus is unique among both the
>gas and ice giants in emitting a very small amount of internal energy.

>What is the nature of Uranus’ atmosphere?
>Why this is important: Studying these properties not only teaches us about meteorological,
>dynamical, and chemical processes in Uranus, but by being able to explore regions of
>parameter space not previously investigated, we gain insights applicable to all giant
>planets, even extra-solar ones.

And there's more stuff in there about the moons and the rings that I don't have room to include in this post.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:56:23 2015 No.7379670 >>7379664 Neat, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 00:12:47 2015 No.7379682 >>7377777 Checked

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 00:19:44 2015 No.7379691

>>7378929

>'95 means you likely missed out on the online gaming golden years before it all turned to shit

You probably haven't the slightest clue what griefing originally entailed.

I don't regret the slightest bit all those hours wasted on Diablo 2 that could of been used for studying and bolstering my grades.

I'm always told I waste my intellect and I could had easily made into a ivy league university. Don't really care tho, because you're never going to have that kind of unrestrained online environment early-mid 2000s ever again.

This board was miles more entertaining as well. Now i only stop by every few week.

Sorry, but who felt left out again?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 00:32:43 2015 No.7379713 >>7377418 I'm more excited about Ceres than Pluto. But I think I'm in the minority.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 00:46:03 2015 No.7379734

>>7379691
You forgot the precursors to weblogs.
The people experimenting with documenting and commenting were at least intelligent enough to learn html (before wc3).

The individual sites were intelligent and articulate, not like this current (m)admans dream of marketing. Advertisin and complete dumbing down.

Surfing was an intellectual joy in the late 90's

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 00:50:14 2015 No.7379745 >>7376178 >That's the information I didn't understand, thanks ! People wouldn't think you're retarded if you just read shit before posting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 01:05:18 2015 No.7379774 >>7378785 I watched it earlier today, it's really cool

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 01:23:18 2015 No.7379817

>>7378626
I'll need to be 87, but my smoking habit probably cut that possibility out 5 years ago.
Cheers for lab grown organs based off your own DNA, if humanity doesn't collapse!

>>7378929
>'95
>best of both
Lol, no. You were still too young by the end of the 90's to even remember hardly anything of the greatness that was the explosion of the computing age. You missed (the release of) all the best games. You missed the pre-ad internet.
I could go on and on.

>best of both
>80's
nigga what? I was born in 89 and I don't even say stupid things like that. I ain't an 80's child. You barely pass for being a 90's child.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 01:26:49 2015 No.7379825 >>7378785 whoa fran bagenal is a hot mature

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 01:33:12 2015 No.7379840 File: 121 KB, 997x810, Pdofd5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7378824 Panic

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 01:53:25 2015 No.7379873 >>7379840 You again? Is reddit still down?

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 02:04:25 2015 No.7379891

>>7378975
>the Russians have failed at every attempt since the dissolution of the Soviet Union
Why is this? Surely it should be way easier now seeing as they don't have to use 70s tech? Is this definitive proof that this isn't about technology but about money and political drive?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 02:06:18 2015 No.7379895 >>7379873 > everything I don't like is reddit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 05:59:11 2015 No.7380383 File: 115 KB, 1280x720, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7379840 YOU DIDN'T LISTEN YOU COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 06:11:14 2015 No.7380392 File: 126 KB, 512x512, Pluto0000-0121.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What Pluto looks like right now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 06:18:05 2015 No.7380396 >>7380392 I wonder if the dark stuff is anything like the lunar mare on The Moon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 06:35:26 2015 No.7380413 When will we be getting more images of Pluto? We still haven't gotten anything new since those computer troubles.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 06:43:49 2015 No.7380422 >>7380413 Yes we have.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 06:51:40 2015 No.7380430
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>>7380422

We have? Where are they? I know they have downloaded a couple of images that were taken before the computer issues since, but I've yet to see anything taken at a date after them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 06:59:12 2015 No.7380438 >>7380396 Nah, more likely it's congealed ichor from the souls of the Greek dead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 07:23:08 2015 No.7380458 >>7380430 be patient anon. It's taking new pictures every day, which is more often than some threads on this board get bumped.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 07:52:04 2015 No.7380478 >>7379502 >>7379511 Shit, that's neat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:12:33 2015 No.7380906 File: 139 KB, 1041x593, 7-8-15_pluto_color_new_nasa-jhuapl-swri[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:19:33 2015 No.7380919 >>7376149 Fucking cool.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:21:27 2015 No.7380924
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>>7380906
Holy shit! It's happening!

No sign of raws yet, but that's exciting enough! It looks like they just unsharp masked it. Oh, how I want to see more detail in this than what's really there! It's making me want to see Pluto as some kind of dusty desert planet.

Of course, with mottled terrain and jagged boundaries between light and dark, it's not looking too different from the ever fascinating Triton at this point, either.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:34:45 2015 No.7380941 >>7380906 Damn. That's nice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:46:06 2015 No.7380960 >>7380924 How would a Neptune-Triton mission look like? Aerocapture on Neptune, explore the inner moons and then move onto Triton?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:21:50 2015 No.7381012 File: 7 KB, 480x480, pluto-charon-2015-07-07.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Less than a week guys!

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:33:20 2015 No.7381025
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Now that raws are posted, all sorts of attempts at processing and enhancement will come down through the community.

We're officially in encounter mode, and data is coming down! It's happening, people! The first exploration of the last unexplored classical planet! For many of us, this is the first time something like this has happened in our lifetimes (if you were born after--or too young during--the Voyager era), and it may be the last for a long, long time to come.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:40:22 2015 No.7381034 >>7381025 Are the other moons visible in the raw?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:40:46 2015 No.7381036 >>7376796 looks like popeye

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:40:58 2015 No.7381038 >>7380906 Feeling the love.

>>	fuck off were full Wed Jul 8 15:52:14 2015 No.7381056 >>7379511 >>7379502 Neptune is waterworld.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:58:30 2015 No.7381070 The lighting in these photos we've been getting weirds me out, I know it's "front on" so to speak, but it just seems too well lit, almost looks like it's got a bounce light as well as the key light

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:06:41 2015 No.7381086 >>7381070 Part of that sensation may involve the extremely high-contrast surface of Pluto tricking your brain into thinking you are seeing light and shadow on a sphere.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:09:08 2015 No.7381089

>>7381034
If they are in the frame, most likely yes, they are detectable. I say this because they have already been detected in 1x1 (full resolution) images like these before, but at earlier dates and greater distances. You won't see them without stacking multiple images to increase the signal to noise ratio, though. I'll wait for the experts and enthusiasts to find the small moons and enhance the images so that we can all get a good look at them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:30:43 2015 No.7381115 >>7381070 It's the Migou

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:31:19 2015 No.7381117 is it just me or has anyone else imagined pluto to be purple-ish for some reason?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:40:19 2015 No.7381134 >>7381117 It has been known for a long time that pluto is reddish.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:09:20 2015 No.7381190

>>7381117
This has been discussed in the thread. Yes, many people imagine Pluto to be purple for some reason. Yes, it is often depicted as purple or represented by purplish colors. It has been known for about 50 years that Pluto is red, not purple, but the misconceptions persists for some reason. It was never thought to be purple by scientists for any reason. Perhaps many people equate bluish and purplish colors with "cold," and knowing that Pluto is cold they come to picture the color purple despite never having been told to think of it that way.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:11:13 2015 No.7381194 >>7381190 Longer than we've known Charon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:15:31 2015 No.7381202 >>7379539 >>7379528 Neptune has the hardest winds in the solar system. It looks comfy, but is far from it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:17:32 2015 No.7381204 >>7381194 At the discovery of Charon they knew that Charon was much grayer than Pluto.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:18:01 2015 No.7381205 [DELETED]

>>7381190
These are all rotating objects around the sun, and I am glad I chose to do because they decided for you that you shouldn't think of the sun and is sometimes outside and sometimes inside. I only ever got sleep paralysis if I was unclear, that was the highest observed velocity in the article you cited is not the number of males being born were to decrease, then that would lead to malfunctioning protein synthesis and death.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:53:12 2015 No.7381282 File: 1.06 MB, 5000x5000, 1404181388125.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >yfw infrared picks up heat signatures on pluto

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:06:05 2015 No.7381303 File: 21 KB, 465x349, g110409[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7381282 >mfw just before the arrival of New Horizons, Ruskies have secretly placed a billboard reading "NASA SUX LOL" in orbit around pluto

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:14:27 2015 No.7381311 >>7381205 Quality post

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:26:02 2015 No.7381328 File: 250 KB, 1600x1700, 7.7.2015_2_4xcgdn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:27:22 2015 No.7381330 >>7381205 I must agree. I have no other choice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:32:23 2015 No.7381338 Will the astronauts be planting an American flag this time? With how the government is being touchy about flags I pretty much doubt it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:35:34 2015 No.7381344 File: 179 KB, 465x476, 5598529583.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7381282 >yfw Pluto is Yuggoth

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:47:58 2015 No.7381365 >>7375964 That's Ganymede.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:50:49 2015 No.7381371 >>7381330 sure is time cube in here http://www.timecube.com/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:53:30 2015 No.7381375 File: 881 KB, 1248x1080, sensible chuckle.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >July 5 New Horizons operational after tuning it off and back on again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:57:06 2015 No.7381378 File: 8 KB, 248x250, 1416784315946.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7381344

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:59:29 2015 No.7381381 >>7381282 >thriving community of extra terrestrials >friendly >can travel to earth and share their transport methods >our dreams of monster girl waifus will come true

Zycho32 !!wZ8Hv2NXKnc Wed Jul 8 18:59:48 2015 No.7381382

>>7381025
I remember hearing- way back in the beginning of this mission in '06- that the best case scenario was to catch Pluto just before it 'ices' over. By that I mean in the after-effect of being closer to the sun than Neptune for twenty years(79-99) Pluto had supposedly thawed out enough to see the geological formations that would otherwise be concealed by ice, or so the theory went.

First, is what I just described even remotely close to what the actual goal was? And second, if it is, do you think we made it in time?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:01:00 2015 No.7381384 File: 154 KB, 1024x708, return_to_yuggoth_by_nightserpent-d8myy8i.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7381344

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:04:40 2015 No.7381390

>>7381384
>>7381381

I don't think there's likely going to be any intelligent life even in the off-chance we find regular life.

I mean, there's no evidence Pluto was ever closer to the sun, and that's really the only way an intelligent civilization could develop. It's too cold and dark otherwise.

Zycho32 !!wZ8Hv2NXKnc Wed Jul 8 19:20:09 2015 No.7381417

>>7381390
Yeah, the best possible outcome for discovering evidence of life on Pluto would be by means of a kind of 'Beacon' established and detectable on the planet itself. No actual life, but something clearly artificially constructed that can't be explained away.

That said, odds of New Horizons having the chance of picking something like that up is juuuuust about nil.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:20:52 2015 No.7381420 >>7380906 Pluto looks pretty comfy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:22:47 2015 No.7381423 >>7381282 >image size >that picture wtf

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:31:37 2015 No.7381436 >>7381420 >33 K >Comfy

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:39:20 2015 No.7381457
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>>7381070
I find that strangely satisfying, most space photos are so perfect they almost look like rendered pictures.

Picture related, looks like a low quality render, it's simply too perfect.

It's comforting in a way, you know how these things are supposed to look like, there isn't any strange physics that take place. It's just a directional light source and a sphere, and it make sense.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:39:51 2015 No.7381459 >>7381436 Nothing like hearing the cracking of the fireplace with a hot cocoa while watching nitrogen and tholin snow falling outside.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:45:34 2015 No.7381475 >>7381457 Funny you use Io-Jupiter as an example for that. Of all the places in the solar system, it's probably the one with the most "strange physics" taking place

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:57:41 2015 No.7381500

This thread is hardcore TL;DR, every post I gave a look was retarded and didn't answer any of my questions.

Here, this stuff is more informative.

http://www.nature.com/news/pluto-fly-by-a-graphical-guide-to-the-historic-mission-1.17927
http://www.nature.com/news/what-to-expect-from-the-pluto-fly-by-1.17948

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 20:01:45 2015 No.7381510 >>7376949 http://www.nature.com/news/pluto-bound-probe-faces-its-toughest-task-finding-pluto-1.17811 4u big boy, sweet webm

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 20:08:46 2015 No.7381521 >>7376975 Nigga it's on an escape trajectory going over 10km/s relative to Pluto. You'd need another fucking rocket stage attacked to it to even orbit the damn thing

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 20:23:39 2015 No.7381552 >>7381521 >not crashing into it and getting close up images of pluto right before it crashes

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 20:32:32 2015 No.7381571
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>>7381521
The trajectory is almost perpendicular to the orbit of Pluto and the probe reached solar escape velocity. It could have used a hohmann transfer from a higher orbit or something like that.
I'm not capable of doing the math but surely it could be possible to orbit Pluto without having to launch a huge rocket.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 20:36:53 2015 No.7381578

>>7377033
>You can orbit it for 1000 years and you will see exactly the same things as in the first pictures.
Actually, Pluto is notable for its changing surface features pending of its time of the year and position relative to the sun, because of layers of ices freezing and sublimating at different regions. Orbiting it for a very long period of time would have been ideal to understand how tholins work

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 21:25:54 2015 No.7381648

>>7381382
It is certainly true that Pluto is on the tail end of one of its warm periods right now. I think I've read that Pluto is still warmer than Triton, but I'm not sure if that's right.

One hope is that if Pluto is in a "Goldilocks" temperature zone, we may be able to catch daily changes in weather: if Pluto is hovering right around the vaporization point of some of its constituent volatiles, we may see outgassing from the day side and precipitation on the night side. New Horizons will therefore be paying extra special attention to the "terminator," where day meets night at the time of the encounter.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 21:29:38 2015 No.7381654

>>7381552
Crashing the probe instead of preserving its health for a flyby of an even more distant object in the future? What a waste!

Besides, New Horizons' cameras are more like telescopes: they were specifically designed to take their pictures from far away. Sure, you could detect even smaller features by getting closer, but there isn't any reason to assume that the tiny features are going to be more interesting than the global ones. Since we've never mapped Pluto before, we wouldn't even know where to crash the probe! We'd rather have global coverage than pictures of just a few tiny spots in one part of the surface.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 21:51:09 2015 No.7381683 >>7377343 I can confirm this. Source: I played Kerbal Space Program

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 21:53:40 2015 No.7381687

>>7381500
>mfw I'm going on a cruise with no wifi from the 11th-18th and I'm missing the entire flyby

>>7381552
>getting close up images of pluto right before it crashes
>26 month waiting period for all the data
Well at least I'm not really missing much while on the cruise.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 22:04:06 2015 No.7381709 >>7380392 My guess is that a big comet broke up sometime before approaching pluto and then each piece struck it in sequence.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 22:13:31 2015 No.7381719

>>7381552
Data rate from Pluto, using DSN stations in array mode and teaming the primary and the backup transmitter on New Horizons is still only 1 kbps. If you took a photo and then crashed the probe, you'd never see it because it wouldn't be able to transmit anything before it crashed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 22:26:51 2015 No.7381727 >>7376013 Only an Omega 4 relay, sadly, and the Russians are pretty stingy about letting other countries borrow their reaper IFF

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 23:52:09 2015 No.7381855 >>7381687 What kind of barbarian cruise has no wifi? Did you travel back in time and board the Titanic? Watch out for icebergs

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 00:01:45 2015 No.7381865 >>7381855 There's wifi, I just get charged up the ass for every minute I use it. I guess since it's international. Not really worth browsing /sci/ for Pluto and Charon pics when I could be probing some foreign systems for myself.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 00:07:39 2015 No.7381877

>>7381865
>I guess since it's international.
More like "since wtf are you going to to about it other than pay us".
I haven't been on many cruises, but I'm under the impression that most work this way. There was actually an article by this guy who does his best work (I think he was a software developer?) on cheap ass transatlantic cruises. Internet is insanely expensive, so there's no distractions, but if you absolutely must look something up, you can. Plus you get all the amenities of a cruise, for a low price because nobody wants to go on a trip across a big empty ocean.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 00:12:50 2015 No.7381883 File: 566 KB, 360x359, 1412811849062.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7381025 Wow, I'm not even a big follower of this cosmological stuff, but your comment made me feel very excited. Thank god I started to visit /sci/ some days ago.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 00:49:35 2015 No.7381918 >Pluto is kicked out of the planet club for being tiny and insignificant >Turns out Pluto is where we contact alien life Suck on that, science.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 00:51:45 2015 No.7381922 >>7381918 >Aliens are all lolis and little boys >Retains dwarf planet status

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 01:22:50 2015 No.7381971 >>7380960 Some people have suggested a Cassini-Huygins style mission with a Triton lander, but between the retrograde orbit and the lack of atmosphere it would be too hard. It would probably just be like the current Cassini mission, with no lander.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 01:42:15 2015 No.7382010

>>7380960
>>7381971
I bet there's a fairly plausible mission outline in concept study whitepapers for the last decadal survey. I recall seeing something with both Uranus and Neptune in the title, but a joint mission doesn't seem like it would make very much sense, so maybe they studied both a Uranus mission and a Neptune mission separately, but in the same paper. I'll look into it if I have a chance. We may have to open a new thread before then, though.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 02:10:12 2015 No.7382046

>>7382010
Following up, yes, there is. There are actually two whitepapers that address Neptune.

>Neptune-Triton-Kuiper Belt Objects Mission Concept Study
>http://sites.nationalacademies.org/cs/groups/ssbsite/documents/webpage/ssb_059324.pdf
This one explores several different mission concepts ranging from a tiny and comparatively inexpensive flyby to a Cassini-class orbiter. There's even a concept involving an orbiter that launches a smaller solar-powered probe onward from Neptune to study a Kuiper Belt Object as a piggyback to the orbiter's Neptune and Triton science. The panel found that even a flyby mission would produce sufficient new science not achieved by Voyager's flyby to be cost effective. The orbiter concept is based on Cassini while the flyby concept is based on New Horizons (which itself shares Cassini heritage).

I haven't read into the paper thoroughly yet because I'm watching cartoons, but while there is a mention of an atmospheric probe that would study the structure and composition of Neptune, there doesn't seem to be any study of a Huygens-like lander.

>Uranus and Neptune Orbiter and Probe Concept Studies
>http://sites.nationalacademies.org/cs/groups/ssbsite/documents/webpage/ssb_059323.pdf
I linked this same whitepaper earlier in the thread during a discussion about Uranus. The panel studied both Uranus and Neptune concepts with the constraint of a sub-$2 billion mission launched in the early 2020s. During that timeline they found that a Neptune mission would be prohibitively difficult, due to the unavailability of a Jupiter gravity assist, leading to either an unacceptably long cruise time or a reliance on untested aerobreaking concepts.

This paper also talks about using solar-electric propulsion in the outer solar system, which is an exciting and futuristic concept. They think they could reach Uranus in 13 years using SEP, requiring only a modest Atlas V launch vehicle during any time in a 21 day window that appears every year.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 02:10:40 2015 No.7382048 >>7381571 wouldn't a hohmann transfer take way too much time to be feasible?

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 02:16:07 2015 No.7382053

>>7381571
This guy >>7382048 is exactly right. You could certainly reach a point where orbital insertion at Pluto is possible with modest fuel requirements by following a well designed hohmann transfer orbit, but it could take hundreds of years. I don't know if a potential orbit has been designed or studied, but if it has, it probably would have been 20 or 25 years ago when Pluto missions were first being seriously advocated. So, I don't know exactly how long the most plausible orbiter plans would have taken.

Remember how long it took Dawn to transfer from Vesta to Ceres? Sure, the Dawn engineers could do it using only a tiny, efficient ion engine, but their distance scales were small enough that they could afford to do it the slow way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 03:18:31 2015 No.7382126 Should I wake up at around 5:45am just to see this even if I have to work at 10am?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 03:41:19 2015 No.7382154 >>7382126 It's not a live event. It's happening light hours away and it will take some time for data to be transmitted.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 04:24:41 2015 No.7382205 File: 1.09 MB, 200x220, 1434478152965.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >all those "artist's impression"s of Pluto that depicted it as gray

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 04:28:22 2015 No.7382211 pluto has a heart on it, what a slut

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 04:32:03 2015 No.7382214 File: 152 KB, 280x258, evidence of liquids found on pluto.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7382211 >Pluto

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 05:03:06 2015 No.7382236 >>7382205 It used to be purple in kids' books.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 05:35:17 2015 No.7382265 >>7378785 man they really MGLPro the intro of that documentary

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 05:54:19 2015 No.7382272

>>7381687
>no wifi
It's not like we will have a live transmission from the flyby, so you won't miss much. On 14th July nasa will show a view of the mission control room, some bravos, cheering etc. and than awkward 24 hours or more of waiting for the first photos.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 07:45:23 2015 No.7382346 >>7382272 Actually we'll only get minimum info/photos for WEEKS as the bad boy can only either take photos or send them back home, not both.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:14:54 2015 No.7382429

>>7382346

>There are few data downlinks near closest approach, so we will not receive many images in real time. But the ones we get will be great.
>The mission has promised to release LORRI images (higher-resolution, black-and-white) in near-real-time, but not MVIC (lower-resolution, color) images.
>Only 1% of the science data from the flyby will be returned to Earth during the period around closest approach, including images that the mission has selected for their high science value as well as high public interest. They will be releasing captioned and processed versions as fast as their small team can manage.
>The rest of the image data will be downlinked beginning in September, about 2 months after encounter. It will take 10 weeks to download the full data set.
>On September 14, New Horizons will begin downlinking a "browse" version of the entire Pluto data set, in which all images will be lossily compressed. It will take about 10 weeks to get that data set to the ground. There will be compression artifacts, but we'll see the entire data set. Then, around November 16, New Horizons will begin to downlink the entire science data set losslessly compressed. It will take a year to complete that process.

Detailed download schedule for July 12 - 20:

http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2015/06240556-what-to-expect-new-horizons-pluto.html
http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2015/03101637-pluto-image-expectations.html

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:39:07 2015 No.7382461 holy shit this is fucking boring when will interesting shit start happening?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 10:03:21 2015 No.7382494 File: 40 KB, 1041x593, 1436447603001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7381282 That's more than likely since it isn't at absolute zero.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 12:12:11 2015 No.7382659
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>New Horizons reaching Pluto
>Juno a year from Jupiter
>Philae back from the dead
>Curiosity still roving strong
>fucking Opportunity still roving strong
>Akatsuki waiting for Venus to catch back up with it
>Dawn orbiting Ceres after already doing Vesta
>Cassini still hanging out with Saturn
>Hayabusa 2 on course to fuck an asteroid and bring back lewds
>India's MOM still orbiting just fine

Has there ever been a more glorious time of robotic exploration?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 12:12:53 2015 No.7382660 >>7382429 >The rest of the image data will be downlinked beginning in September WHY?!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 12:18:08 2015 No.7382668 >>7382461 Well some of us find it interesting, sorry there aren't any aliums using the probe to take selfies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 12:27:42 2015 No.7382681 >>7382660 Because they want to continue observing Pluto during the departure phase.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 13:12:10 2015 No.7382741 File: 63 KB, 666x570, 1vmhbep.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7382659 >opportunity still roving strong

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 13:20:01 2015 No.7382754 File: 127 KB, 456x275, my spirit is broken.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7382741 >Spirit works 20+ times as long as projected >Opportunity more than doubles that Spirit btfo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b1DxICZbGc

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:12:21 2015 No.7382976 >>7377284 Y R U so mad tho'

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:41:44 2015 No.7383045 File: 3 KB, 293x295, 1410373515011.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7381025 >and it may be the last for a long, long time to come

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:55:43 2015 No.7383073 >>7381918 But seriously though if there is any interesting things on Pluto would they promote it back to a planet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 16:40:55 2015 No.7383139 >>7383073 No. There are moons out there more interesting and more deserving of that title than Pluto

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 16:48:39 2015 No.7383151 >>7383139 As long as they orbit a planet they'll never get recognized as one. How much effort would it take to move Callisto or Titan into a solar orbit and clear its neighborhood so that it becomes a planet under the 2006 definition?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 17:03:05 2015 No.7383176 >>7382754 >almost gets stuck at 1:20 right at the beginning of the mission >takes a whole month to get out of it >sweaty scientists.jpg

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:16:09 2015 No.7383308

>>7383045
We had a lot of thrills and good times, but as the era of first explorations ends, it's just as much a time for celebration as it is for remembrance. Now that we have identified and mapped all of these wonderful worlds, we must make new goals for ourselves and our planet. Who knows what the next era of intellectual discovery will bring? All I know is that it will be determined by the will and imagination of dreamers.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:42:35 2015 No.7383365

>>7383308
>the next era of intellectual discovery will be determined by the will and imagination of dreamers.
That's some gay ass shit I'd expect someone on facebook to have tattooed.
It is also wrong. The teams making the true breakthroughs are the ones who get their heads down in the fucking dirty work and emerge 15 years later with a paper that nobody but other academics read, then another 15 years later when the technology has matured someone makes some flashy silicon valley consumer product based on it and becomes a millionaire on the cover of time magasine

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:42:51 2015 No.7383367 >>7383176 You didn't hear about it? It made the news back then. This was before Spirit even got stuck (definitively in her case) so it was an unprecedented situation

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 19:15:05 2015 No.7383420 >>7382659 You forgot the most important thing >Voyager travelling in interstellar space Humanity has exited the heliosphere!

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 19:32:10 2015 No.7383462
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>>7383420
Are we still receiving anything from Voyager? I had thought it went quiet, or was going to relatively soon. Still, even if it's dead, it's ours and it's out there, fuck yeah.

>>7383176
Opportunity is the energizer bunny of rovers

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 19:34:07 2015 No.7383468 >>7383308 The first era of explorations ended with Voyager 2's flyby of Neptune in 1989. Then came the second era with orbiters such as Magellan, Galileo, Cassini, MESSENGER and Dawn.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 19:45:49 2015 No.7383500 >>7383462 >Are we still receiving anything from Voyager? Yes, it's still working and we are still receiving signals. It should continue working until 2025.

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