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6506518 No.6506518[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Will we escape/overcome heat death?

>> No.6506520

>>6506518
no.
not stop asking

>> No.6506522

No, but we will leave the boot print on the face of the universe as possible before the nigh takes us.

>> No.6506523

>>6506518
with technology yes

>> No.6506577

>>6506518
Humans will be long dead before heat death.

>> No.6506579

Humanity will destroy the universe, the ultimate realization of our rebellion against 'God'

>> No.6506587

No, our information cannot leave the universe intact. We could try ordering the universe in some way to influence the next one though.

>> No.6506682

>>6506518
we dont know if we can or not but here the suggestion
http://discovermagazine.com/2004/dec/survive-end-of-universe

>> No.6506686

http://www.nature.com/news/can-matter-cycle-through-shapes-eternally-1.13657

>> No.6506708

INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER

>> No.6506737

>>6506708
/thread, even if not multivac

>> No.6506784

only by leaving this universe for a new one

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6506797

Speaking of heat how about you first escape the sun's transition into red giant, chimps.

>> No.6506922

>>6506577
>Humans will be long dead before heat death.

Let me get more precise with that: The only thing left of "us" will be some extremely distant future genetic material left as frozen molecules in rock cracks on some icy worldlet previously known as "Earth". As deep infinity runs on, the worldlet will settle into a minimum gravitational configuration, hence all voids inside will be filled, and all heights at the surface reach a minimum value. As all gravitational potential ends up minimizing, then the body will finally attain near-absolute zero, forever.

There's always the chance, which ever lessens, that as deep infinity progresses, one of these icy worldlets collides with another. Then for a time, there's a local increase in potential energy. But regardless of that, within a few billion years, that potential will be utterly wasted again, and the body will return to being an icy worldlet left to settle back into a minimum configuration without internal voids or external heights.

>> No.6506952

>>6506922

The Earth and every other planet (let alone any genetic material!) will be long, long gone before anything approaching heat death. Heat death means that every particle has decayed. The only thing left would be totally isolated photons, neutrinos, electrons, and positrons.

>> No.6507059

>>6506587
>our information cannot leave the universe intact.
What do you mean by that? As far as I'm aware, the prevailing understanding of physics points to the idea of physical processes being perfectly injective, if not bijective, meaning information is never destroyed. Increasing entropy means the information stored in local areas, and thus the universe they are in, increases over time. This combined with energy being a constant leads to en ever increasing information to energy ratio, and given the Bekenstein bound this means an ever increasing space to energy ratio. This, however, might not lead to a lifeless universe, but rather one in which the substrate of life is ever thinning, such that life must always be prepared to adapt to a less energy-dense environment.

>> No.6507881

>>6506518
The universe will big rip before heat death.