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Hello /sci/, I come to you with a very important questions. My whole life I have lived ignorant to the world of numbers and sciences. Those fields have never interested me until recently, now that I have realized the power and potential of various maths and sciences. Here is my ordeal. My highest math is Algebra. Ever since I realized the usefulness of maths and how cool and interesting it is I have been really dedicated to devote every second of spare time to studying math in hopes that I will eventually be able to get into the fields of physics, astrophysics and quantum field theory and mechanics. I plan on teaching myself the maths necessary for these fields through books and college. I am 19 years old right now and I wanted to get your opinion on where I should begin and how I should progress. Also, do you think it is to late for me to learn all of these sciences and maths? Please, any advice/help would be appreciated.

>> No.5809552

>>5809538
are you currently going to school?

>> No.5809555

>>5809552
I currently go to my cities local college right now

>> No.5809565

>>5809555
do you have an advisor you could talk to?

>> No.5809570

>>5809565
They offer walk in counseling for the summer

>> No.5809571

Kahn academy or internet video lectures would be a good place to start.

>> No.5809573

Dual-n back for short-term memory

Play Nethack or Dwarf Fortress to abuse the crap out of your character-recognition+long-term relation memory

Unreal Tournament 1 (with widescreen fov and no mouse accel) to train spatial skills

Have you read/watched your SICP today?

>> No.5809584

>>5809571
I just made a Kahn account, it looks promising
>>5809573
What is a "SICP"?

>> No.5809586

>>5809584
what the fuck you doing nigga
http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html
get on this shit!

>> No.5809590

>>5809570
it's literally their job to help you with this kind of stuff. unless you're a cave dweller autist that's afraid to go outside, they're your best bet. If you want to start right away >>5809571 is right.

>> No.5809598

>>5809573
Any other recommendations?

-listen to lectures at 1.5-2.0x speed

>> No.5809603

>>5809586
nigga you gay

http://deptinfo.unice.fr/~roy/sicp.pdf

>> No.5809610

>>5809598
listening to lectures at that speed is risky if you wanna study for a test and need to comprehend the material.

>> No.5809624

>>5809573
Why would you want to train these things in this manner? Surely time is better spent studying relevant material.

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5809633

OP here.
My current study strategy is to study and develop a strong sense of algebra fundamentals and to also read the origins of Algebra, I will also be looking at the lectures from online and Kahn Academy. Do you have any other study tips that will help me fully understand the concepts better? Is this the right study path?

>> No.5809637

>>5809624
Also, I think anon is offering these as extra-curricular activities for cognitive skills

>> No.5809641

Those who have given me suggestions, thank you very much

>> No.5809653

>>5809538

>wanting to apply math

HAHAHHAHAHAHAH. Pure math phd or gtfo faggot

>> No.5809654

>>5809633
If you mean 6th grade algebra, then I don't think it's that important to have a strong sense of the fundamentals. Just understand how to do algebra and go on to more advanced stuff, which is more important for physics.

If you mean algebra as in functions in a Cartesian plane, you should probably just go through enough to learn calculus. When you learn linear algebra and mathematical analysis in the future, you'll expand your understanding of what a "function" actually is into a much deeper picture than you can get with just high school algebra.

If you want to learn the history of math, then I'd recommend a book called "History of mathematical thought from ancient to modern times" or something like that. It's a great book.

>> No.5809659

>>5809538
i had a friend in a similar situation. i tried to tell him to just khan academy through the lower level stuff before taking placement tests but he didnt listen


hes now in alg2 while taking discrete math. strangest shit i've ever heard but seems to be doing fine other than taking a crapload of remedial shit before he can take calc/physics to transfer


i would suggest being honest with yourself and do book learning at least through alg2. understand it fully to the point where you can slice through any algebra like butter. if you cant understand book go to khan academy or something and learn there.

>> No.5809668

>>5809654
Most people don't learn algebra in the 6th grade fyi.

>> No.5809674

>>5809653
Anon, i was also included maths of all kind, meaning i won't stop learning it at a certain point. I also see no problem of applying math. If you can't apply math then there is no need for it.
>L2commonsense
>>5809654
I just want to know why the operations and formulas work for algebra and I thought the fundamentals would be a good place of understanding the reasoning of the formulas. Also I will look into that book.
>>5809659
Well, i'm only at a JC and I already took a placement test and scored into Algebra I. That's what I want, the skill to see any Algebra and know how to apply my tools to solve them with ease

>> No.5809709

>>5809538
You are literally me. I turned 19 this year.

Added to thread watcher; will lurk until thread dies.

Also search how to learn maths on https://archive.installgentoo.net/sci; there are some great threads there.

>> No.5809743

>>5809709
Thank you, good luck to the both of us then

>> No.5809749

>>5809674

> If you can't apply math then there is no need for it.
>being this retarded

>> No.5809788

>>5809674
If you can't apply joy there is no need for it
>L2commonsense

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5809796

>>5809749
math is abstract, i realize this. some math doesn't have applications in the real world but apply to other maths to make maths better, the abstract math would also consequently apply to maths that deal with reality.
>inb4 top lel
>go kill yourself
>>5809749
>>5809788

>> No.5809799

>>5809796
Math models parts of situations, it's abstract but applicative.

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5809808

>>5809749
Pure math is just physics without any connection to the real world.

Pure math is completely just the product of the human mind. The human mind is a product of neural circuits, which can be studied with biology. Biology is just applied chemistry, and chemistry is applied physics. So in the end, pure math is just applied physics.

>> No.5809809

>>5809796
So in short, you don't believe in happiness and see no place for art, music, personal expression, protected sex, ...

>> No.5809815

>>5809809
>overexaggerating and generalizing a statement to make point falsely seem true
>back to /soc/

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>>5809808

>> No.5809856

>>5809815
Not really what I was doing. The idea that maths is 'useless' if it can't be applied is precisely equivalent to any of those other things. Maths is good because I like it. Same as sex, art, music. If you don't like it, its not good to you, but it doesn't make it pointless.

>> No.5809860

>>5809856
shh.. strawman arguments have no brain.

>> No.5809884

>>5809860
That's not even what a strawman is you idiot