/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.2832647]

>your face when you will live into the 2050's and beyond

[Anonymous No.2832652]

[Anonymous No.2832653]

with the world's population at 30 billion and global economic meltdown

[Anonymous No.2832657]

>>2832647

Bullshit. No black people will be able to afford life extension treatments.

[Samefag !SCIENCEjHw No.2832659]

2550's.

Live forever or die trying.

[Anonymous No.2832663]

[Anonymous No.2832668]

>your face when they will have cured aging by then but after thousands of years you will have so much genetic damage that you wont even resemble human

[Anonymous No.2832675]

>>2832668
forgot the picture

[Fr 87 No.2832676]

Shit son.

Maybe YOU'RE only going to live to the 2050s but I'm sure as fuck going to live forever.

[Anonymous No.2832677]

>>2832668
>implying i give a fuck
>implying i wouldn't have uploaded my mind by then

[Anonymous No.2832681]

>>2832668
When I start to get non human, I'll say goodbye to my loved ones and ride my space-cycle into the sun.

[Anonymous No.2832685]

living forever would blow

I hope to die at a noble 255

[Anonymous No.2832696]

Spice must flow.

[Anonymous No.2832699]

You really think this?

You've got to accept your mortality.

[Anonymous No.2832704]

>mfw I become an uploaded distributed hivemind.

[Samefag !SCIENCEjHw No.2832709]

>>2832668
Novus Ordo Machinae

Cleanse the organic in the purifying antiseptics of the Priesthood of the Machine God!

[Fr 87 No.2832712]

>>2832699


Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.2832718]

>>2832704
> yfw solar storm destroys electronics

[Anonymous No.2832726]

2050 : Blacks have full control over America
2075: Whites are put into slavery
2100: Chinese nuke us

[Anonymous No.2832728]

>>2832663
yes...yes, yes yes! yes! yes!!!!!!

[Samefag !SCIENCEjHw No.2832730]

>>2832718
>mfw Dyson Sphere

[Anonymous No.2832735]

>>2832704
I look forward to meeting you all in the collective.
>>2832718
>mfw the collective mainframe is kept deep underground to protect it from the outside world

[Anonymous No.2832738]

>>2832726
>2050: Mexicans have full control over America
ftfy
>blacks use abortion more than any other race
>mexicans have just as much unprotected sex, but are Catholics
>get used to Mexicans

[Anonymous No.2832740]

<span class="math"> V(t) = V_{in}(t) \exp\left({- \frac{R}{L} (t - t)}\right) \frac{dt}{dt} - 0 + \int_{-\infty}^t{ \frac{\partial}{\partial t} \left[V_{in}(\tau) \exp\left({- \frac{R}{L} (t - \tau)}\right) \right] } [/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.2832742]

>>2832718
>thinks that can't be shielded against.

[Anonymous No.2832746]

>mfw human intelligence reaches universal saturation

[Anonymous No.2832999]

>>2832735

>mfw conscious planet

[Anonymous No.2833011]

i think ill commit suicide eventually. in my mid 20s or so. i have no meaningful relationships and i just cant forge them, life feels more and more worthless by the day.

[Anonymous No.2833020]

>>2833011
I do not believe this is a "baww thread"
Take your shit somewhere else

This thread is supposed to make people feel good, not feel bad for you

[Anonymous No.2833022]

>my countenance when I play to commit suicide as soon as I turn 50 so I know exactly when and how I am going to die

Motivation whenever I want. Never have to worry about the future. Still get to see my kids graduate.

[Anonymous No.2833023]

>>2833011
FUCK. you are probably the edgiest person on /sci/. I can't handle you.

[Anonymous No.2833024]

>>2833011
Join the army you fuck

[Anonymous No.2833028]

>>2833020

[Anonymous No.2833033]

Dude, it's only 40 years in the future. Don't get your hopes up. At the very most we might be using a lot of solar and wind power.

[Anonymous No.2833037]

>>2833033

mfw 40 years in the future humanity is still using coal and bitching at each other over who has the biggest bank account

[Anonymous No.2833040]

>>2833024

can't, I'm physically disabled

[Anonymous No.2833044]

Yup, pretty much the same old crap.

[Anonymous No.2833045]

>>2833033

people in the 50's would have never guessed life would be like it is now, in 2011

[Anonymous No.2833049]

>>2833033

dude imagine thinking about this in 1971....so much shit has happened and technology is going to progress even faster now

[Anonymous No.2833054]

> mfw this will make it even harder to accept death

Don't you realize suffering is caused by the ego, and that you can WILL die no matter what you do.

Accept it and realize death is the best possible thing to happen.

[Anonymous No.2833058]

>>2833045
We should look at progress in medicine and not some they did nol foresee IT oneone argument.

[Anonymous No.2833060]

>>2833049
The only thing that has really changed since the 70's is computers, energy efficiency, and the amount of hair in porn. Overall, very little has changed. We are still using power plants, and transportation built in the 70s.

[Anonymous No.2833064]

>>2833054
No and no.

[Fr 87 No.2833065]

>>2833049


That just makes it all the more depressing...

Almost fucking nothing has changed except for the internet and maybe cell phones in our daily lives....

[Fr 87 No.2833076]

>>2833054


Fine, I'll be laughing my ass off when you're six feet under and I'm going on 2000.

[Anonymous No.2833082]

>>2833065
Porn is available and HD

[Anonymous No.2833086]

You guys need to think a little more relisticly here.

Better expect the worst and work hard to make things better, than expecting the best and not work toward making any progress.

[Anonymous No.2833087]

>>2833065
I don't think you realize how big of a deal being able to communicate instantly anywhere in the world is. Cell phones and the internet may not seem like a big deal because we grew up with them, but if you think about it, they've complete revolutionized communication, the economy, government, everything.

[Anonymous No.2833101]

>>2833054
The ego is amazing, we shouldn't try to hide it or want to get rid of it. We should embrace our ego, take control of our individual consciousness, worship ourselves as gods, not slaves. Death is a disease to be cured, life is to be embraced. Nature will be ours to command, death is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.2833104]

My body is ready.

[Anonymous No.2833105]

>>2833076
I'll be in complete blissful, timeless, egoless harmony with the universe while you masturbate your pathetic existence of shallow pleasures and slowly dying without any power to avoid the inevitable.

[Anonymous No.2833106]

>>2833060
>>2833065
>mfw amazing changes have happened but myopic emo fags ignore it because the relevance hasn’t been processed and cooked down for their tiny brains.
Amazing leaps have been made in many “boring” areas like material science, and fuck, cancer treatment is way better now too, incremental advances are more important than you bitchy dong jockeys seem to get.

[Fr 87 No.2833109]

>>2833087

Oh I completely understand that but I still want my motherfucking green power and interstellar travel.
The internet is quite possibly the most significant invention in the history of the human race...

[Fr 87 No.2833117]

>>2833106
>>2833106

I specifically said "In our daily lives."

Where the fuck is my spaceship?

[Anonymous No.2833129]

>>2832999
http://www.ted.com/talks/kevin_kelly_on_the_next_5_000_days_of_the_web.html

that was givin in 2007

shit's gonna be big, pic related.

[Anonymous No.2833133]

YES


the best thing is, i don't even dare to imagine what it will be like

[Anonymous No.2833135]

>>2833105
No you'll be dead. The universe isn't harmony or bliss, it's just there. As in in, not conscious. The only way to truly transcend reality is through technology, empowering ourselves as never before.

[Anonymous No.2833142]

Technological is a bunch of pseudo-scientific wank. Kurzweil is a fucking nutcase who injects himself with green tea.

[Samefag !SCIENCEjHw No.2833145]

>that you can WILL die no matter what you do.
I may die, this is true.

But I will not die a straw-death in this world of backward humanity.

I will die a glorious death, after a lifespan of ten thousand years or more, on a planet far from this rock, knowing that I played a part in freeing humanity...not from an oppressive dictator or a despotic government, but from itself. Liberated from their own mortality, in part by my hand.

I will die happy, having seen my species ascend from its muddling sludge, a single-planet species of pitiful organic meats and confused bumbling.

I will have seen Humanity become a transcendent species of gleaming metal and plastic, perfect in every way, spreading the divine plague of Homo Superior (and with it the twin stars of knowledge and reason) to the Heathen Cosmos, for the eternal reign of the Emprah and the everlasting glory of Holy Terra.

[Anonymous No.2833148]

>>2833145

[Anonymous No.2833149]

>>2833065
Avast yonder internaut! I harken from 1685 and have come to taste the delights of the future!

What wonders is this internet web I brauze upon! I've gazed upon more wonders in a day of dalliance then I have in a year of studious study in my own epoch! Most Men and Fraulein could hardly decipher a scribble in mine own time.

Harken not the despair in the heart of Man my good fellow! Rather, heed the hope blossoming in the imaginings of your upturned minds. You can never know what the future holds!

Now avaunt! I must make haste and consume more of these magical "cheeseburgers" you ingenious fellows have concocted!

[Anonymous No.2833165]

>mfw you die in war after an expensive life extension treatment

[Fr 87 No.2833166]

>>2833145


Brilliantly put.

[Anonymous No.2833185]

I'm looking forward to controlled qualia, aka using technology to turn dreams into virtual reality, and being able to remember them.
An immortal robot body for intersteller journeys will be nice, but there's something nostalgic about the pleasures of the flesh I've grown used to.

So... how about we meet on the north pole of Jupiter, August 25th in 2525? Mourn those who accepted mortality, and celebrate the glory of the cosmos?

I'm crossing my fingers for a positive singularity/friendly AI.

[Samefag !SCIENCEjHw No.2833190]

> mfw this will make it even harder to accept death
Taken from a post I made in a similar thread on /tg/,
>There's a difference between true immortality and indefinite lifespan.
>I do not fear dying in combat or some other cause (presumably for something noble or just or whatever).
>I have something against dying just because I lived too long.
>Rocks fall, everyone dies.
>(God is That DM, it turns out)

[Fr 87 No.2833213]

>>2833185

I shall not mourn a man succumb to his own inferiority.
And yet.
I shall see you at Jupiter my brother. A return to this solar system in the 2500s shall be... Nostalgic.

[Anonymous No.2833235]

>>2833213
I mourn, for I hope to overcome my baser grudges in my electronic enlightenment. Also, for friends and family that shall pass before the dawning of a new era.

Remember me, should I not make it.

[Samefag !SCIENCEjHw No.2833246]

Make it titan.

If all goes well, we will be basking in the results of a terraformed sea of organic life. We can celebrate the comings of our species, and mourn those that have fallen along the way.

Those that chose to eschew technology, and those that had no opportunity to make the choice: Newton, Feynmann, Sagan, Russel, etc.

[Anonymous No.2833252]

Nobody in this thread will be alive in 2100.

Stop living in the imaginary wonderland of aubrey de grey.

[Anonymous No.2833253]

science keeps changing every year
god has been the same for the past 50 years

atheists - 0
christians - 1

[Fr 87 No.2833255]

>>2833235

No.

[Anonymous No.2833260]

>>2833253
Exactly.
Didn't exist 50 years ago
Doesn't exist today.

[Samefag !SCIENCEjHw No.2833266]

>>2833252
The future is now. Tomorrow is what we make it. There is no reason what we are describing should be impossible, or even particularly difficult to solve.
Your arguments against it assume current levels of technology in the future.

Star Trek inspired the engineers of last generation. We see a goal and the species makes it so.

Kurzweil and de Grey have inspired us to pursue...grander goals. The outcome will be no different.

[Anonymous No.2833271]

2050...I will be ~66 then. Feels good, man. Well...unless I die.

[Anonymous No.2833276]

kinda pisses me off how i and a handful of other people are going to do all the work to get us to the singularity, while the rest of you fags leech off the benefits of our work, as though it were your birthright

[Fr 87 No.2833279]

>>2833276
>>2833276

Brother, they are human. It is the birthright of all humanity.

[Samefag !SCIENCEjHw No.2833280]

>>2833276
It is the birthright of the species to transcend itself.

[Anonymous No.2833281]

>>2833266

why does everyone just assume science will magically advance exponentially forever? Eventually we will plateau. The only reason we advanced so far in the past 100 years or so is because there was so much we didn't know, and so much room for improvement and also lots and lots of luck. Now that there are less things to know it will be even harder to advance further. Fact.

[Anonymous No.2833284]

I'm sorry to say but all of you will be dead in 150 years. Just sayin.

[Anonymous No.2833288]

"Well, one trick cured smallpox and built airplanes and cultivated wheat and tamed fire. Our current science may not agree yet on how exactly the trick works, but it works anyway. If you are temporarily ignorant about a phenomenon, that is a fact about your current state of mind, not a fact about the phenomenon. A blank map does not correspond to a blank territory. If one does not quite understand that power which put footprints on the Moon, nonetheless, the footprints are still there – real footprints, on a real Moon, put there by a real power. If one were to understand deeply enough, one could create and shape that power. Intelligence is as real as electricity. It’s merely far more powerful, far more dangerous, has far deeper implications for the unfolding story of life in the universe – and it’s a tiny little bit harder to figure out how to build a generator."

[Fr 87 No.2833291]

>>2833281

[Samefag !SCIENCEjHw No.2833300]

>>2833281
If you had any training in the field of molecular biology you would not say that.

These problems are fundamentally solvable. Completely discounting the possibility of brain in a jar, extreme organic longevity is not that farfetched. Someone's made a mouse that lives nine times its ordinary laboratory lifespan, and eighteen times its lifespan in the wild. Fruit flies that are analogous to humans living to see the age of three thousand years. Nematodes that, to our knowledge, don't die! I myself am working on perfecting a treatment that experimentally increases the lifespan of mice by at least twofold, relative to untreated litter-mates, by a mechanism that should be directly transferable to humans. I've recently started treatment in simians. I'll get back to you on that one, but there's no reason it should be any different - this mechanism is highly conserved.

It's only a matter of time, and given the complexity of the things we have solved in the past hundred years, I think should be solved very soon.

There is hope, and it is most certainly NOT baseless fantasy.

[Anonymous No.2833305]

>>2833281

>there was so much we didn't know

>implying we know a lot now

you take electricity from our society nowadays = chaos reigns.


this is one central example of how we don't know SHIT.

Japan, one of the most advanced countries in the world, got FUCKED by a natural disaster.

we have LOTS of room for improvement, son

[Anonymous No.2833307]

>>2833281
Eventually, we'll isolate what makes us intelligent, and use that to design better intelligence. From there, what we know and what we can do goes FWOOM. Physics will be the only limit to our technology.

[Anonymous No.2833313]

>mfw people bitch about whose science will have the most impact when biochemistry will produce the single-most important event in human history - eternal longevity

[Anonymous No.2833318]

>MFW
when I get a new face

[Samefag !SCIENCEjHw No.2833319]

>>2833307
That, however, is a copout and a dishonor to the human species.
We are capable of great things without the singularity. We don't need to piggyback on an AI to achieve godhood, when it would be so much more satisfying to capture it ourselves.

[Anonymous No.2833322]

>>2833281
The amount that we have learned is a drop in the fucking ocean compared to what we still don't know. To propose anything else is shear arrogance.

[Anonymous No.2833324]

We need to transcend the flesh, to become gods of our own creation. Technology is apart of us, and we will be apart of our technology. We are what we create, the products of our minds shall become the fabric of reality. Our imaginations will impose themselves on the material of reality itself. You cannot stop us, you cannot stop the future. The universe is our playground.

[Anonymous No.2833326]

>>2833288
And all that was done with a glorified sausage of a brain, imagine what will be possible with a substrate unimpeded by a biological metabolism.
Oh wait, we can’t.
Yet.

[Anonymous No.2833333]

>>2833300
Sir, you are helping mankind, and your tripple-three double-zero honors you.

May your own treatment prove successful, and help keep you and your loved ones around to see the glorious new world you shall help to usher in.

[Anonymous No.2833334]

>>2833305

so? They got fucked by an earthquake, shit happens, doesn't mean they're stupid. You think technology will one day get so advanced we can shrug off a 9.0+ earthquake like it's nothing? You're a dreamer. You know you are a dreamer. But can you put your hands in your head, oh no

[Anonymous No.2833338]

OH MY GOD

[Fr 87 No.2833342]

>>2833334
Actually yes... Very easily and not too far in the future either.

[Anonymous No.2833343]

>>2833334
We wiped out smallpox and polio.

You yourself post messages on technology that was unthinkable to your forefathers.

Someday, we won't just shrug off 9.0 earthquakes. We'll have the power to cause them, if we so choose.

[Samefag !SCIENCEjHw No.2833344]

>>2833322
Even taking the worst possible stance:
Assume we know 90% of what there is to know in this vast universe.
The implications and applications of that knowledge have not yet begun to be tapped in full. The possibilities that occur to even my plebeian non-engineer mind are baffling and awe-inspiring.
>>2833324
We are going to become Gods, period. If you don't like it, get off. You don't have to contribute, you don't have to participate but if you are going to interfere with me becoming a God, you're going to have trouble. There'll be warfare.
-Richard Seed

[Anonymous No.2833348]

>>2833300
Regenerative medicine will make amazing strides in the next 10 years, the stuff in human trials right now is almost “now shock” worthy.
feelsfantasticman.jpg

[Anonymous No.2833351]

>>2833276
You're working us towards the singularity?

I'm sorry I lack the skills to help. Hopefully, me and mine can help make life more comfortable for you and yours, until your task is finished.

[Anonymous No.2833354]

>mfw we all live greatly extended lives
>mfw the future is not a utopia

[Anonymous No.2833365]

>>2833319
I meant no disrespect. By "design better intelligence", I meant to include engineering/augmenting ourselves. Technology will soon surpass what an un-augmented human mind can learn in a lifetime, so we'll need some way to keep up.

[Anonymous No.2833372]

>>2833334

as you see,
>>2833342
and
>>2833343

already made a point.

i don't mean to troll you or whatever, i know it's BIG to counter a natural disaster like that.

what you're missing is what >>2833343 said, in the 50's people wouldn't DREAM about the internet, and it's effects, like scattering production all around the world (part of what we call globalization).

humanity sets a goal (e.g. i want to stop fucking earthquakes from fucking shit up) and goes for it.
through science, we come up with solutions for the problem

and thats how we roll

[Anonymous No.2833412]

>>2833246
What's that picture from?

[Samefag !SCIENCEjHw No.2833427]

>>2833412
www.dresdencodak.com

[Anonymous No.2833430]

>>2833412

http://dresdencodak.com/

[Anonymous No.2833474]

>>2833354
imagine the future of trolling!

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2833484]

A new and glorious dawn awaits,
Not a sunrise, but a galaxyrise
A morning filled by four hundred billion suns
And the rising of the Milky Way

[Anonymous No.2833614]

Ill try to make it to that reunion in 2525 but no promises. I might just be too busy terraforming my own planet with some buddies.

[Anonymous No.2833633]

I will kill myself when I turn 40, simply because my genes were not programmed to live in such an extended lifespan, that is a result of an artificial delay of death.

[Anonymous No.2833660]

o stop it sci your bringing a tear to my eyes

[Anonymous No.2833682]

>>2833354

I'd prefer a eutopia.

>yfw you realise 'Utopia' is a pun.

[Anonymous No.2833683]

>>2833633
Your genes weren't programmed to use toilet paper either. C'mon, subverting our biological lot is what technology is all about! ^_^

[Anonymous No.2833954]

lol faggots

i'll be enjoying my afterlife which will last longer than this goddamn species

[Anonymous No.2834009]

by Richard Brautigan


I'd like to think (and
the sooner the better!)
of a cybernetic meadow
where mammals and computers
live together in mutually
programming harmony
like pure water
touching clear sky.
I like to think
(right now, please!)
of a cybernetic forest
filled with pines and electronics
where deer stroll peacefully
past computers
as if they were flowers
with spinning blossoms.

I like to think
(it has to be!)
of a cybernetic ecology
where we are free of our labors
and joined back to nature,
returned to our mammal brothers and sisters,
and all watched over
by machines of loving grace.

[Anonymous No.2834034]

>yfw you are a broken, bitter lonely old man in 2050, the us has been vacated by the elite, who have all gone to China, and your neighborhood is full of niggers who all have 10 kids

[Anonymous No.2834072]

>>2834034
>Implying china isn’t going to collapse into civil war by 2020 due to corrupt state banking policies, serious social problems, and an export economy that buckles when cheap trainable dexterous robot systems under development now hit the market in the US.

[Anonymous No.2834076]

>>2834072
lets hope so. but the us will still be full of niggers and mexicans by then.

[Anonymous No.2834084]

>>2834076
use robots to castrate niggers and beaners!

[Anonymous No.2834152]

>>2834072

>cheap trainable dexterous robot systems under development now

Whoa... do you have a link for info on that?

[Anonymous No.2834161]

>>2834152
>>2834072

http://www.skilligent.com/

[Anonymous No.2834163]

>>2834152
christ even the history channel did a thing on this.

Its just through use of LOTS of gears and bigger/better algorithms. :l or use google

[Anonymous No.2834198]

>>2834152
Two promising players:
http://heartlandrobotics.com/
is a fore runner, but has been running fairly quiet lately though getting a bunch of investment and glowing accounts from people who’ve seen their labs, and the r&d team they have is impressive. They want to sell a $5k robot that can be trained by non programmers in the next 2 years.

http://www.seegrid.com/
has a vision based trainable (armless at this point) material handler for sale now that is doing well, and has plans to developed dexterous systems (Hans Moravec is their chief scientist, who has been preaching this time table sense the 90’s and has been successful at meeting it so far)

[Anonymous No.2834398]

If I don't make it to the singularity, I hope there's no afterlife.

Imagine, you continue forever. Forever.

Think about it, in 1,000,000 years, you'd still exist. In 1,000,000,000,000, you'd still exist. In 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years you'd still be around. And you haven't even scratched the surface. Because there is no surface, there is only eternity.

This shit freaks me out at night.

[Anonymous No.2834413]

>>2834398
yeah, when you think about it like that, it freaks you out.

which is why you simply think of it as "an eternity"

it just is. there is only the present. years would be irrelevent.

there is only existing, and not existing. which one do you want?

[Fr 87 No.2834417]

>>2834398

Well... Actually... No.
Time doesn't work like that because when there is no mass... There is no time. It's the reason that it's oft believed that time itself began with the big bang. If the heat death of the universe occurs, time will simply stop. If there is a big crunch/bounce, time will stop with the singularity.

[Fr 87 No.2834422]

>>2834417

And I don't mean the technological singularity, I mean a point of singularity.

[Anonymous No.2834424]

>>2834413

I'd prefer not to. Just the simple fact that there will never, ever, ever be an end is something that absolutely chills me. A greatly extended life would be fine, but knowing that you are destined/doomed to exist beyond time is more than I want to imagine.

[Anonymous No.2834431]

>>2834417

So what would that mean for us? If there was an afterlife, do we go to it like we would have had the universe not stopped, or would we instantly cease to be?

[Fr 87 No.2834438]

No one is, at this point, proposing true immortality -- Simply a rather indefinite (Or at least long as shit) lifespan.

In the event of an "afterlife," we're talking about the supernatural here and I can't help you with that...

[Anonymous No.2834450]

>>2834424
you're a faggot and not understanding what I said.

there is only existing, and not existing.

which do you prefer?

[Anonymous No.2834459]

>yfw everything will cease to exist when i die therefore im god

[Anonymous No.2834466]

>>2832647

[Anonymous No.2834492]

>>2833040
being fat isn't physically disabled

[Anonymous No.2834728]

>>2834450
I'd rather just exist.
forever.

as long as i get to create my own universe and life and become a god

[Anonymous No.2834736]

>>2834728

You don't ask for much, do you? I imagine you had some disappointing Christmases.

[Anonymous No.2834770]

Humanity is but the spark, and the universe our dry tinder.

It is we who shall ignite the grand inferno which will burn forever in the heart of all things, towering flames of unimaginable size and intensity shall blossom from our humble spark, things so grand and amazing they are not only beyond what we think will happen, but beyond what we CAN think will happen.

[Anonymous No.2834840]

>>2834736
you sarcastic fuck

if i was to exist for eternity then of course i am going to want to be able to create my own fucking universe