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16002403 No.16002403 [Reply] [Original]

Hawking Radiation is BS

>> No.16002408

>>16002403
And you're tired of pretending it's not?

>> No.16002416

>>16002408
Indeed

>> No.16002420

>>16002403
black holes don't exist, so all of the physics that claims to describe them is similarly fake and gay. the premise of black holes existing was that neutrons neutrons were a fundamental particle and if they would collapse under pressure there would be nothing remaining to prevent further compaction. its been over 60 years since neutrons were proved not to be fundamental particles, yet somehow the myth of black holes continues to live on even though it was disproved the same moment when neutrons were proved not to be fundamental particles.

>> No.16002865

>>16002420
Retarded take. If you pack any matter dense enough general relativity implies there will be an event horizon, and that is what a black hole is. This has nothing to do with neutron physics per se.

>> No.16002867

>>16002420
Black holes are just massive solar storms.

>> No.16002869

>>16002867
You don't call the center of a cyclone a 'grey hole' do you? A black hole is just the center of a giant solar storm.

Faggies.

>> No.16002874

>>16002403
its a pressure ignition like a space anchor, a star.
and it has the same color as a hydrogene flame.

>> No.16002875

>>16002874
but its still jsut foam on the eather streams

>> No.16002894

Hawking radiation is bs because
>1. Black holes don't exist because stars are made of essentially incompressible condensed matter in the form of metallic hydrogen
>2. Black-body radiation comes from physical lattices like graphite

>> No.16002897

>>16002894
I'd love to drop a black holer on you

>> No.16003512

It was found in a brilliant hack, but a hack after all.

>> No.16003529

Based
No one has ever seen a black hole "evaporate"
Scientists just making it up as they go along

>> No.16003531
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>>16002420
>>16002894
they're real she took a picture remember?

>> No.16003537

>>16003531
has this imaging technique ever reconstructed something we know the look of?

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>>16003531

>> No.16004192

>>16002403
So is dark matter. And the copenhagen interpretation.

>> No.16004203

Black holes cannot radiate from inside the event horizon. If a 'radiative thermal equilibrium of black body' must be,then its outside the event horizon

>> No.16004236

>>16004203
It is. Hawking radiation is generated around the black hole, not inside the event horizon, nor is it generated on the event horizon.

>> No.16004242

>>16003537
taking a photo of where something should be from many locations, some being extremely distant from others, accounting for parallax, and interpolating the data, is not a novel or bizarre imaging technique. it's common sense.

>> No.16004243

>>16004242
>it's common sense.
>t. someone who has never studied optics

>> No.16004249

>>16004203
If you throw enough anti matter into a black hole, it will stop being a black hole. Matter and anti matter particle pairs form in the universe randomly all the time. What I don't understand is, home come Hawking radiation assumes only (or mostly) the anti matter particles are the ones who fall into the black hole while the positive matter escapes? Shouldn't it be uniform, meaning there wil be an equilibrium?

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>>16004249
black holes don't exist outside of comic books

>> No.16004294

>>16004264
Electrons don't exist.
Your brain doesn't exist (we never saw it).

>> No.16004300

>>16002403
Prove it

>> No.16004312

>>16004249
hawking radiation doesn't come from pairs of virtual particles, we had this thread like a week ago. it's caused by a gravitational variant of the unruh effect.

>> No.16005590

>>16004264
This, its been proved that there is no solution to quark degeneracy pressure problem which in turn proves that black holes cannot exist

>> No.16005950

>>16003531
Black Holes are real but that """image""" is fake, they never took a picture, it's bullshit

>> No.16006252

>>16005950
how is it not an inage? it's light that came from the accretion disk surrounding M87's SMBH

>> No.16006902

>>16006252
no it isn't, you're so ignorant about what you're looking at that you don't even understand the fake concepts that were just to justify the existence of the fake image

>> No.16007342

>>16006902
radio waves are light, anon.

>> No.16008485

>>16005590
the premise that black holes exist is based on the premise that neutrons are fundamental particles, since neutrons are not fundamental particles, the premise of black holes existing is clearly a false premise

>> No.16008815

If the all the future time of the universe happens as you pass through the event horizon of the black then how could the black hole still exist as you fall into it. Won’t it have evaporated?

>> No.16008828

Hawking Radiation is a glitch in the simulation that makes the pyramid one, when it is in fact four. It's just a abstract frame.

>> No.16008832

>>16008828
Go on, say 'pyramid' with no recognition of one-ness but instead as a registerable 4.

>> No.16008834

>>16008832
Then your thoughts are entanged between 1 and 4 because you think it's not one in relation to 4 or you got there that way and it lays in the past so think twice here

>> No.16008838

>>16008834
It's just how fours work. You don't, you do, you not, you normal, etc. and it's more complex than this

>> No.16008839

>>16002403
I'm writing a scifi story and at one point the character references the "romantic fantasy of ancient, woefully inadequate physics" when talking about hawking radiation and a singularity. In the story he explains that just beyond the event horizon is the surface of an exceptionally large neutron star. I don't know if this is possible under any model, I just wanted it to be shockingly different from what we think now

>> No.16009757

>>16008839
only dumb people think black holes are real

>> No.16009812

>>16002403
>look bro I can't explain where there numbers when or come from so it's le ebin radiation
scientists are so retarded, radiation isn't real

>> No.16011488

lmao at the retards who are dumb enough to believe in hawking's faggotry

>> No.16011922

>>16002403
>one virtual particle goes into the black hole
>one virtual particle escapes
>no net change
>this is radiation somehow
was he stupid

>> No.16011932

>>16011922
Nothing should be able to escape a black hole

>> No.16013093

>>16011922
>was he stupid
yes
he was black soience man tier dumb

>> No.16013474

>>16002403
Make a strig vibrate with standing waves and pinch it in the middle
Not all frequencies are possible
Black holes are 3d(4d?) Pinch points, preventing some vibrations from existing in the quantum vacuum. This makes the quantum vacuum shit out particles because the frequencies no longer always average out to zero

>> No.16013511

>>16002420
You'll need a new explanation for non radiating bodies causing lensical distortion poop tard.

>> No.16014841

>>16013511
black holes don't exist outside of comic books

>> No.16015352 [DELETED] 

>>16014841
This, only pseuds think black holes are real. Even undergrads in physics can figure out why black holes don't exist outside of popsci and star trek.

>> No.16015458

>>16015352
>>16014841
You just simply ignored what he >>16013511 said?

>> No.16015492

>>16011932
Classifically.

>> No.16015505

>>16002420
It's totally irrelevant whether or not neutrons are fundamental particles.

>> No.16016471

>>16015505
no it isn't, the calculation of neutron degeneracy pressure was the basis for proclaiming the existence of black holes

>> No.16016936

>>16003531
this was literally just an extremely modified image of her anal sphincter
kinky science bitch

>> No.16018227

>>16002403
Hawking was a retard, he had a neurological disease that destroyed his brain.

>> No.16018723

>>16016471
The class of midwits that get their physics expertise from watching soiyence fiction goyslop are too dumb to have ever encountered that concept during their educational goyslop soiyence fiction movies

>> No.16019694

>>16016471
Its also the basis of the TOV limit, which was also calculated on the basis of considering neutrons to be fundamental particles.

>> No.16020383

>>16019694
right but in considering the TOV limit you have to take into account that oppenheimer was a moron and he couldn't do math, so whatever he produced was bound to be very, very stupid.
and of course he chose to work on black hole problems, thus further proving how stupid he was

>> No.16020826

>>16002403
>Hawking Radiation is BS
so is the claim that you aren't a faggot, OP

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>>16020826

>> No.16021430

>HALT! You must emit radiation or else you will be in violation of the law!
>HALT! Any electromagnetic field cannot be 0! You are in violation of the uncertainty principle! Create a disturbance in the field immediately or else you shall invalidate the currently accepted scientific model!!

>> No.16021813

>>16009757
only dumb people think anything of science is real, its all science fiction and it only works because we believe it works

>> No.16022987

>>16002420
black holes """"physics""" is so lame and fake
>hay guise, lets put zero in the denominator and pretend the ridiculous and stupid results are real

>> No.16024020

>>16020383
>he chose to work on black hole problems
Working """scientific""" theories about things that don't exist means that its impossible to disprove your theories, so your incompetence will always remain hidden. Good trick for a guy who never mastered the basics

>> No.16024045

>>16024020
Unless we have blackholes going out of control

Cough anti matter

Doesn't radiate you say?

>> No.16024046

>What do you mean I have to face heat death like a big boy?

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>>16004185

>> No.16024119

>can the earth evaporate?
>can stars evaporate?
>can I evaporate?

>> No.16024130

ITT: college dropouts call Hawking and Oppenheimer retarded

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This has to be the dumbest thread on sci holy