/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.15833325]

Soon - edition

previous >>15830521

[Anonymous No.15833330]

TWO WEEKS

[Anonymous No.15833333]

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1719554492801134895

[Anonymous No.15833335]

>>15833333
i didnt know they were so far along

[Anonymous No.15833339]

>>15833335
someone commented this is just monthly maintenance for the hangar door
lmao

[Anonymous No.15833343]

>>15833333
There's still time to send a superchat if you hurry!

[Anonymous No.15833344]

I always wondered if you just pulldown the faceshield/visor and the suit instantly gets sealed when it clicks onto the helmet. I didn't really see a prolonged sealing of the suit when I watched the launches and they kept the visor things off just before liftoff.

[Anonymous No.15833346]

Why didn't they send up the Skylab rebooster on a normal launcher instead of waiting for the Shuttle?

[Anonymous No.15833347]

>>15833333
checked
when you visit the KSC, the first landmark one sees is the VAB, visible for miles. The next landmark is Blue Origin's facility located directly outside the visitor center, it is fucking huge. The fact they have barely launched anything with that amount of resources at their disposal is extremely disappointing.

[Anonymous No.15833348]

Shaking up the commercial space station industry
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https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4681/1
> On October 4, Northrop Grumman, one of three companies that received NASA awards through the Commercial LEO Destinations, or CLD, program in late 2021 to support design work on commercial stations, announced it was abandoning plans to develop its own station. Instead, it was teaming with Voyager Space, another company with a NASA CLD award, on that company’s Starlab station.
> By joining forces with Voyager Space, Northrop is terminating its funded Space Act Agreement with NASA after receiving $36.6 million of the $125.6 million originally awarded in late 2021. The unused funds, NASA said, will be reallocated to other companies with NASA agreements, including Voyager Space, in the form of additional milestones in their Space Act Agreements.
> The third company that received a CLD award, alongside Northrop and Voyager, was Blue Origin. It is teamed with Sierra Space and other companies on the Orbital Reef commercial space station concept they unveiled two years ago.
> In recent weeks, though, there have been reports that the Orbital Reef concept, or the partnership between Blue Origin and Sierra Space, may be in trouble. Blue Origin reportedly shifted many of its employees working on Orbital Reef to other projects, like its Blue Moon lunar lander, while also considering splitting up with Sierra Space.
> Publicly, Blue Origin says there is no change in its interest in Orbital Reef or its partnership with Sierra Space. “We continue to make progress on our Commercial Destinations Space Act Agreement with NASA,” the company said in one social media post.

[Anonymous No.15833349]

>>15833325
How soon is soon?

[Anonymous No.15833350]

>>15833346
corruption

[Anonymous No.15833355]

>>15833346
Congress literally mandated every single payload going to space to fly on the shuttle

[Anonymous No.15833356]

>>15833348
https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1711772366852804850
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> Sierra Space has also signaled its continued cooperation with Blue Origin on Orbital Reef. “Blue Origin has a heavy-lift vehicle in New Glenn. We have a transportation system for crew and cargo with Dream Chaser. We’re working together to build a space station,” said Janet Kavandi, president and chief science officer at Sierra Space, during a panel discussion at AIAA’s ASCEND conference in Las Vegas last week. “It’s a very complementary system. It work out really well, taking advantage of all those different capabilities.”
> Orbital Reef, though, won’t necessarily be the first commercial space station Sierra Space in involved with. The company has discussed creating a “Pathfinder” station using one of its LIFE inflatable modules, supported by Dream Chaser, that could be used to host commercial research.
> “There have been a number of breakthroughs in the biotech world utilizing the ISS that show we can do some very unique things,” Tom Vice, CEO of Sierra Space, said of that Pathfinder station at an investors conference in June. The station, which could launch as soon as the end of 2026, would reduce risk for Orbital Reef but also be, in his words, “a revenue-generating space station that is focused around next-generation breakthroughs.”
> Sierra Space also won an unfunded NASA Space Act Agreement in June, part of the agency’s Collaborations for Commercial Space Capabilities-2 (CCSC-2) initiative. That agreement will allow the company to tap into NASA expertise for that Pathfinder station after the agency concluded there was not significant overlap with Orbital Reef.
> Ken Shields, [...] at Sierra Space, said during a panel [...] last week that a LIFE module could be outfitted and be ready for crews two launches after the module itself was launched. But he also emphasized his company’s continued work with Blue Origin on Orbital Reef.

[Anonymous No.15833358]

>>15833356
> The competition for commercial space stations goes beyond the companies with NASA CLD awards and Axiom Space, which has a separate agreement with NASA allowing it to attach commercial modules to the ISS as a precursor to a commercial station. Several other companies that are also interested in commercial stations won CCSC-2 agreements in June, such as Think Orbital and Vast, as well as SpaceX, which is examining whether its Starship vehicles could be converted into stations. Still others, like Above:Orbital, Gravitics, and Space Villages, submitted proposals for CCSC-2 awards but were not selected by NASA.
> Vast, for example, plans to use its CCSC-2 award to better understand NASA’s needs ahead of the next phase of the CLD program. It is working on a single-module commercial station called Haven-1 intended to support short-duration visits while it works on larger stations it will offer to NASA and others. “It is our proof point that we can build an actual commercial space station, we can have a crew visit it,” Max Haot, CEO of Vast, said on the ASCEND panel. The company is working on a “CLD-compliant” station concept he said Vast would announce soon.
> The number of companies pursuing commercial space stations, either with or without NASA support, is far greater than even the most optimistic projections of demand for them in the foreseeable future. That’s particularly true when many are betting on a post-ISS NASA to be the major customer for their stations.

[Anonymous No.15833360]

>>15833358
> “NASA would be the anchor tenant,” said Randy Lillard, Orbital Reef program manager at Blue Origin, on the ASCEND panel. “Their requirements define the initial space station and how it’s going to work. People are going to come once NASA starts flying.”
> “NASA should develop a comprehensive understanding of the resources and timelines of the ISS-to-commercial-LEO transition plan to a much higher level of fidelity, to provide confidence that the nation will be able to sustain a continuous human presence in LEO,” ASAP member David West said at the meeting, a recommendation backed by the full panel.
> Commercial space station developers, at least those working with NASA, are dealing with an additional degree of uncertainty. NASA requested $228.4 million for the CLD program in fiscal year 2024, projecting that to grow to more than $435 million in 2028. But that budget proposal predated a deal between Congress and the White House that caps non-defense discretionary spending—including NASA—at 2023 levels in 2024 with just a 1% increase in 2025.
> One NASA project that should proceed despite those fiscal realities, the panel said, was not CLD but instead the US Deorbit Vehicle (USDV), a spacecraft that would dock to the ISS and handle the final phases of its deorbiting into the South Pacific. NASA is seeking $180 million for USDV in 2024 and expects the project’s overall cost to approach $1 billion.
> “The panel feels strongly and will continue to emphasize that funding the deorbit vehicle is not optional and it cannot be delayed,” West said. “It must be adequately funded in a timely fashion to provide the means for safely disposing of the ISS.”
> “The day will inevitably come when the station is at its end of life and we may not be able to dictate that date,” Sanders added about the deorbit vehicle. “This needs to be resourced, and resourced now, if we are to avert a catastrophe.”

[Anonymous No.15833364]

Ship 25 Failures
Gas recirculation kills Ship 25’s HPU
S25’s common dome inverts at rocket garden
Worker leaves screwdriver in methane tank
S25 lands in India after early engine shutdown
B9’s FTS goes of leading to the early demise of S25
FTS fails to destroy S25 and the ocean claims it
TVC hydraulic power failure
Premature FTS activation
1 Ship 25 sea level engine fails to start
All RVacs fail right after hotstaging and recontacts Booster 9
2 Ship 25 sea level engines fail to start
All Ship 25 sea level engines fail to start
1 Ship 25 RVac fails to start
2 Ship 25 RVacs fail to start
All Ship 25 RVacs fail to start
Ship flap jams during reentry
They try to light the center engines for hotstaging
Tile burn through during reentry
PloverBird strike on ascent damages the TPS, the ship burns up on reentry
CH4 header tank explosion
LOX header tank explodes
Engines overperform and S25 is placed into orbit
Flaps get ripped off during entry
Re-Entry failure of S25
Pez Door collapses at Max-Q
One of the ships aft flaps get ripped off during Max Q due to and engine explosion earlier on in the flight
Internal structure failure during WDR
Tank rupture
COPV burst
Skirt crumples during Max-Q
Ship skirt overpressures during hotstaging
Avionics damaged during hotstaging
Guidance malfunction
Low raptor chamber pressure
S25 engines fail soon after sep, causing it to recontact B9.
Loss of control to tank valves causes overpressure and burst disk to pop in orbit
Ship 25 is stacked incorrectly and falls off the booster
Battery pack failure
Ship 25 falls off SPMTs during rollout
Chopsticks drop s25
Fuel slosh causes Ship 25 to do a hairdryer maneuver

[Anonymous No.15833366]

>>15833364

[Anonymous No.15833367]

>>15833366
Stage 0 Failures
Water Deluge Steel Plate fails before ignition and gets blown up
The clamps on OLM didn't not release well, causing the whole thing to lean at 5 degrees during liftoff.
Water Steel Plate steam explosion.
Water Deluge Gas System overpressures.
BQD over fuels and pops the top
OLM clamps fail to release
BQD fuels booster with FOD
SQD fails to retract
BQD fails to retract
Watercooled steel plate steam explosion
Steel plate high pressure knocks b9 off coarse
FONDAG surrounding the steel plate gets ripped up
“Test configuration error” causes the full stack to collapse like SN3
Failed abort and configuration error causes the full stack to blow up like SN4

[Anonymous No.15833375]

>>15833364
>>15833366
>>15833367
that is a big bingo

[Anonymous No.15833381]

Give me a weeks count

[Anonymous No.15833383]

>>15833381
More than 1 but less than 3

[Anonymous No.15833385]

What happened to Boing?
https://youtu.be/H5UxJ4-mpU0

[Anonymous No.15833394]

>>15833385
they merged with another company and MBAs started running it

[Anonymous No.15833429]

Stack today

[Anonymous No.15833445]

>>15833339
They might need it one day, you never know.

[Anonymous No.15833476]

Didn’t know Peregrine had a little rover hanging off the side, how cute

[Anonymous No.15833486]

LICENSE DAY

[Anonymous No.15833499]

Uh doomersisters?

[Anonymous No.15833502]

>>15833486
>>15833499
??

[Anonymous No.15833522]

Never seen the ₾ currency before

[Anonymous No.15833529]

https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1719722495647899745

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ron-baron-says-teslas-valuation-can-hit-4-trillion-but-spacex-has-a-chance-to-be-even-bigger-d34e1056
> Ron Baron says Tesla’s valuation can hit $4 trillion, but ‘SpaceX has a chance to be even bigger’
> But Baron is even more bullish on Space Exploration Technologies Corp., better known as SpaceX. The world’s busiest rocket-launching company and its large satellite-Internet subsidiary remain private, but Baron said he expects SpaceX will go public and list on a stock exchange within the next three years.
>Baron invested about $700 million in SpaceX several years ago and a recent secondary share sale in the private market implied a nearly $150 billion valuation recently for the entire company.
> “We think that by 2030 it likely will be worth somewhere around $500 or $600 billion,” Baron said. “And then in the 2030s, that’s when I expect to make another 10 times our money. So we can make over the next 15 or 20 years, we can make 30 to 50 times our money in SpaceX.”
>Baron added, “I think SpaceX has a chance to be even bigger than Tesla in the 2030s.”
>Baron called SpaceX’s satellite-Internet business as “Internet for the planet” and said that it will be much lower cost in many places than what any competitor could hope to provide.
> In the case of SpaceX, what they’re going to be doing there, the innovation that other people can’t possibly do, is the fact that they are able to launch rockets and re-use them over and over and over again,” said Baron. “So as a result of that, it costs other people to get to space $100 million, $200 million. It costs us a fraction of that amount … Basically, we can get our satellites to space for a very low cost.”

[Anonymous No.15833535]

>>15833529
>spacex
>going public

[Anonymous No.15833541]

>>15833535
it doesn't need to go public

[Anonymous No.15833548]

https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1719563759415390383

[Anonymous No.15833559]

>>15833548
and this is why Starlink will never come to SA (without similar incentive)

[Anonymous No.15833574]

>>15833381
even prime

[Anonymous No.15833578]

>>15833522
Payment in Japanese hot springs

[Anonymous No.15833587]

>>15833346
A lot of launchers in the late 70s sucked for the job. The reboost module had a 3.4m diameter (which was just a bit too wide for most payload fairings) and weighed about 4500kg (which was too heavy for a lot of rockets). The only vehicle that could handle both was the Titian IIIE, which was way more rocket than was needed and would have come with a price tag to match. Atlas-Centaur would have probably worked if it had the wider fairing that was eventually designed for the Atlas I, but that would have meant designing a new version of a rocket that was only going to fly once at a time when Shuttle dev was drinking up everyone's budget like it was a prior incarnation of MSR.

There's also the "dock manually" part of the mission. That would have had to be run by links from the ground and I've got no clue how confidant NASA was with doing something like that.

[Anonymous No.15833589]

>>15833333
Checked and wasted on BO. What a shame

[Anonymous No.15833590]

Cancel MSR

[Anonymous No.15833591]

>>15833590
And dragonfly

[Anonymous No.15833592]

>>15833476
That's Iris. It's the first of what they're calling "CubeRovers" -- rovers with a standardized form factor like the cubesats they're named after.

[Anonymous No.15833594]

>>15833591
Nope, fuck off lake autist

[Anonymous No.15833596]

>>15833476
>>15833592
I’ve heard musings about how all these little cubesat rovers and landers about to be shat out on the moon are going to do some sort of local networking thing where they all communicate with eachother

[Anonymous No.15833597]

>>15833587
there was also a lot of bullshitting on the STS touted abilities - who wants to be in a stinky old Skylab when we can put together a brand new station in 2 years given projected Shuttle flight cadences?

[Anonymous No.15833602]

>>15833596
Isn't HLS going to have space wifi?

[Anonymous No.15833607]

>>15833597
Congress pulling the funding for station construction did a lot of work for killing the shuttle's economic case.

[Anonymous No.15833613]

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/11/daily-telescope-a-dazzling-view-of-the-milky-way-from-southern-africa/

[Anonymous No.15833617]

>>15833594
Kill yourself you absolute waste of air tax payer LEECH, DO A FUCKING TITAN MISSION RIGHT OR NOT AT ALL

[Anonymous No.15833619]

After decades of dreams, a commercial spaceplane is almost ready to fly
“Plunging into the ocean is awful. Landing on a runway is really nice."
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/11/after-decades-of-dreams-a-commercial-spaceplane-is-almost-ready-to-fly/
> There are still some covers and tiles missing from the spacecraft. Tom Vice, Sierra Space's CEO and a former executive at Northrop Grumman, said engineers have intentionally left some of those components off Dream Chaser for its next round of tests.
>“We’re almost done with everything," said Angie Wise, Sierra Space's chief safety officer. "We’re finishing all the closeout panels. We’re essentially getting it ready for shipping. We’ve checked out the landing gear. We’re going to put everything back in, stow it, and then move it onto the (transport) fixture and get it out of here.”
> So Sierra Space isn't by itself in the spaceplane arena. Nevertheless, the company stands alone in its persistence in an industry that has recently prioritized capsule-shaped spacecraft or outside-the-box designs like SpaceX's reusable Starship rocket. Dream Chaser will be the first commercial spaceplane capable of orbital flight.
> Sierra Space says its Dream Chaser will provide its cargo a gentle ride back to Earth at no more than 1.5 Gs. This is useful for animal specimens and other sensitive payloads. Dream Chaser will also deliver payloads closer to the labs that analyze experiment results.
>“Plunging into the ocean is awful," Vice said. "Landing on a runway is really nice."

[Anonymous No.15833620]

>>15833617
>DO A FUCKING TITAN MISSION RIGHT OR NOT AT ALL
You rang?

[Anonymous No.15833624]

>>15833619
> Dream Chaser is about a quarter of the size of a space shuttle orbiter, with roughly half of the shuttle's habitable volume. It's about 30 feet (9 meters) long, with a wingspan of 23 feet (7 meters). Those wings fold up, like the wings of a fighter jet on an aircraft carrier, to fit inside the payload envelope of its rocket. The first Dream Chaser missions will lift off on United Launch Alliance Vulcan rockets from Cape Canaveral, Florida, but Sierra Space says its spaceplane can fly on different launch vehicles.
> While the spaceplane itself is designed for a minimum of 15 flights, it features an add-on cargo module that is not reusable. This pressurized cargo pod, named "Shooting Star," has solar arrays that will unfurl in orbit to generate power. It's attached to the rear of Dream Chaser and will be the connecting point between the spaceplane and the International Space Station.
>All told, Dream Chaser can haul up to 12,000 pounds (5,500 kilograms) of cargo to the station. The spaceplane's return cargo capacity is about 4,000 pounds (1,850 kilograms), and the expendable Shooting Star cargo module, which will be jettisoned at the end of the mission to burn up in the atmosphere, can dispose of several tons of trash from the space station.
> Sierra Space will put its spaceplane on the second flight of United Launch Alliance's Vulcan rocket, which is still awaiting its first test flight. The Dream Chaser team will be watching closely as ULA launches its first Vulcan rocket, a mission now slated for December. The third schedule uncertainty, Wise said, is when the space station will have a port available to receive Dream Chaser.

[Anonymous No.15833628]

>>15833620
>file name
Wtf I love Zubrin now?

[Anonymous No.15833630]

>>15833619
Yeah its called dreamCHASER for a reason, definetly not dreamcatcher. Two more weeks

[Anonymous No.15833633]

>>15833624
> Sierra Space builds its own thrusters, heat shield tiles, solar arrays, and the bulk of the spacecraft's wiring harnesses. "We really have thought about where there were bottlenecks, and we've eliminated those bottlenecks by bringing the work in-house," Vice said. "What we found almost immediately is we can move faster, make products much cheaper, and we don’t have that risk.”
>Vice singled out Dream Chaser's propulsion system as one of the program's major technical hurdles. The spacecraft has 26 small rocket engines, each capable of operating at three discrete levels of thrust for fine control or more significant orbit adjustments. Uniquely in the space industry, these thrusters consume a mix of kerosene and hydrogen peroxide propellants rather than toxic hypergolic propellants that ignite on contact with one another.
>"We wanted to have a fuel system that was green instead of using hypergolics, so we could land it on a runway and we could walk up to the vehicle without being in hazmat suits," Vice said. "That was hard, I have to say."
> Dream Chaser is designed to fly in orbit for up to six months. A limiting factor in the spacecraft's operating life is its use of hydrogen peroxide propellant.
>"We are now the world’s experts on hydrogen peroxide, decomposition of hydrogen peroxide, contamination of systems, pumps, valves, lines," Vice said. Hydrogen peroxide is corrosive to many metals and is prone to decompose into water and oxygen.
> "We are experts on zirconium," Vice added. Zirconium is resistant to the corrosive effects of hydrogen peroxide and is one of the few metals whose ions do not catalyze hydrogen peroxide's decomposition reaction, according to ATI, a producer of specialty metals.

[Anonymous No.15833640]

>>15833607
Can't imagine it would be viable after a couple of Shuttle losses regardless of funded cadence.

[Anonymous No.15833648]

Hop when?

[Anonymous No.15833650]

Amazon Argues to Reduce LEO Regulations, Delta and Hughes Partner on IFC
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https://payloadspace.com/amazon-argues-to-reduce-leo-regulations/
> Amazon is teaming up with a handful of leading think tanks to launch the Alliance for Satellite Broadband, a coalition aiming to broaden global satellite internet access.
>The group was just announced yesterday, but it already has its first task: pushing regulators to update decades-old limits on signal interference between different orbits.
> “EPFD limits formulated nearly 25 years ago when non-GEO technology was new are outdated. Satellite technology and spectrum management principles have changed a lot since then, but the rules haven’t kept pace,” said Julie Zoller, an executive at Amazon’s Project Kuiper.
> GEO operators are in favor of maintaining EPFD limits. “These limits strike the right balance by protecting new and established GEO operations against unacceptable interference, degradation or interruption from Non-GEO operations,” SES wrote in a recent blog post.
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https://payloadspace.com/delta-x-hughes-partner-on-ifc/
> Delta is tapping into satellite internet.
>This morning, the airline giant announced a partnership with Hughes to add antennas to 400+ planes to connect customers with the broadband provider’s JUPITER satellite network
> Starlink is partnered with JSX and Hawaiian Airlines, for example, and Viasat is under contract to supply GEO connectivity to Southwest and Virgin Atlantic, among others.
>In more direct competition, CesiumAstro announced this year it would be rolling out an IFC terminal of its own.

[Anonymous No.15833657]

>>15833648
i hope she hops on me if you get what i mean

[Anonymous No.15833659]

>>15833648
>>15833657
The day both of you get sent out the airlock, AND your virtual fox. TOTAL COOMER DEATH

[Anonymous No.15833668]

>>15833590
JPL cheaped out big time

[Anonymous No.15833674]

>>15833668
one of the many consequences of mass autism

[Anonymous No.15833681]

>>15833590
What the fuck happened, is this Curiosity?

[Anonymous No.15833686]

>>15833681
It's from a test rig

[Anonymous No.15833687]

>>15833681
It's Percy, if you can believe it

[Anonymous No.15833697]

Lucy flyby soon

[Anonymous No.15833700]

>>15833650
Nice, BO finally launches their two test sats for kuiper and they are already playing the political game for their constellation.
Looks like they finally realize they won't meet the required launch amount in time, so they are rigging the system for that event.

[Anonymous No.15833702]

>>15833529
If SpaceX went public they'd never go to Mars

[Anonymous No.15833707]

mass autism > mass autism

[Anonymous No.15833711]

How quaint

[Anonymous No.15833712]

>>15833535
SpaceX still has investors even though it's private

[Anonymous No.15833715]

>>15833711
who cares doe

[Anonymous No.15833721]

Elon Musk’s ‘everything app’ plan for X, in his own words
During an employee all-hands, Musk said that Twitter became X to replace YouTube, LinkedIn, FaceTime, dating apps, and even your bank.
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https://www.theverge.com/23940924/elon-musk-x-twitter-all-hands-linda-yaccarino-super-app
> EM: Seeing if there’s anything I haven’t covered yet. Livestreaming quality could be better. We are working on improving livestreaming. And obviously, we want to be able to offer a full 4K livestream, that’s pretty important, especially if you’re watching a sports game or a rocket launch or something like that.
> EM: Yeah, absolutely. We want to be everywhere that YouTube is or other video. That means you want to have the X app accessible on any TV. If anyone just buys a TV, the X app is just one of the items. You can watch YouTube, or you can watch X.
>We’ve made some progress in this regard by being able to do that Apple thing where you, like, cast it to the screen, basically. We want to be natively in the TV, just like YouTube or anything else. That’s really essential because, especially if people are putting [up] longform content, like long videos or something like that, holding your phone for two hours is going to make your arm tired. While it’s possible, it’s not the optimal way of consuming long video. You want to be able to sit down and watch your experience.

pic is about bringing up problems during meetings, quoted text is about increasing the livestream and video quality in general
I wonder if they are going to stick with livestreaming from purely X, I don't think X has 4k livestreams yet

[Anonymous No.15833730]

>>15833702
private companies have valuations as well and can return capital to the shareholders even without selling the equity through dividends
usually a "fair" value for a non-growing company would be something like 10-20 times their profit per year, so if you had 30 bil profits per year, that could be valued at 600 billion
you don't need to go public for a company to have a valuation of something its just that buying and selling shares is more difficult so its less liquid

[Anonymous No.15833732]

If Boeing lost billions on Starliner, how much has Sierra lost on Dreamchaser?

[Anonymous No.15833733]

>>15833721
Newsanon, this is spaceflight ONLY. Don't post this offtopic shit here

[Anonymous No.15833734]

>>15833733
SpaceX streams exclusively on X now and that has been talked about before, so it is relevant

[Anonymous No.15833742]

>>15833734
No its not, and you know its not, so stop trying to pretend it is. Because then people could post exclusively Tesla news because SpaceX uses them to move astronauts to the launch site. Dont post non spaceflight shit

[Anonymous No.15833744]

>>15833742
not comparable, this is about watching official SpaceX launch streams and specifically about the Starship launch and directly related to SpaceX and thus Spaceflight

[Anonymous No.15833746]

>>15833744
>>15833742
also, posting a video about astronauts going into a Tesla and sitting there and whatever would be on topic
random Tesla video about the same car would not be
I don't think there is any ambiguity here, one is easily on topic, the other is easily not on topic
a Cybertruck driving around Starbase pulling a vacuum raptor is on topic
a Cybertruck driving around LA is off topic

[Anonymous No.15833748]

>>15833744
It is DIRECTLY comparable, dont post it here. You have an entire board >>>g dedicated to this news that would be far more appreciative than this one general that doesnt even respond to half your posts.

[Anonymous No.15833750]

>>15833721
4K is few months down the line he said few weeks ago.

My fear is no 4K of Starship orbital phase.

[Anonymous No.15833752]

>>15833748
Fail >>>/g/

[Anonymous No.15833754]

>>15833750
It would definitely be for subscribers only

[Anonymous No.15833759]

>>15833746
This, posting Shitter only news is not welcome

[Anonymous No.15833767]

>>15833754
Just make it available so that we get third party content from 4K views.

[Anonymous No.15833769]

if people can post that stupid fucking blue dog whore, i can post stuff about Twitter. Its at least relevant to space.

[Anonymous No.15833774]

>>15833715
China, who’s manned lander will be an unholy amalgam of domestic Chang’e + Soviet LKM hardware and/or software

[Anonymous No.15833775]

>>15833769
no you fucking cannot retard this is the same argument that fucking spastic newfag made about being allowed to early stage a couple months ago. we dont do that here NOW GET IN THE AIRLOCK

[Anonymous No.15833779]

https://twitter.com/GraviticsInc/status/1719768769416053112

oh no

[Anonymous No.15833780]

While you idiots were arguing your offtopic news, S25 began lift back on to the stack.

[Anonymous No.15833782]

>>15833780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

up again

[Anonymous No.15833784]

>>15833782
They're going to destack it anyway because FTS hasn't been installed yet.

[Anonymous No.15833785]

>>15833782
does someone have the starship on starship off pasta

[Anonymous No.15833788]

>>15833784
>>15833782
>>15833780
REMINDER: Two more weeks.

[Anonymous No.15833792]

>>15833779
friendship ended with gravitics

[Anonymous No.15833798]

>>15833769
You shut your fucking mouth. She is the queen of /sfg/ and official mascot.

[Anonymous No.15833800]

>>15833798
Fuck off, zoophile

[Anonymous No.15833808]

>>15833798
Forced meme

[Anonymous No.15833810]

>>15833800

[Anonymous No.15833812]

>>15833769
Ignore the tranny lmao. They're just constantly seething about everything Musk.

[Anonymous No.15833815]

>>15833779
another one bites the dust

[Anonymous No.15833817]

>>15833779
DEI is forced by the government, you know that?

[Anonymous No.15833819]

>>15833774
I doubt it, LK is way too small and Apollo is a bit old-fashioned for anything other than the "Land-and-leave" missions
They've copied mostly soviet stuff because this is how far the soviets got.

[Anonymous No.15833823]

SpaceX promised falcon heavy flights to NMars every launch window. What happened to that?
You cant deny thats not sus. There is a growing possibility Starship jsut exists to be a high payload shuttle with no Mars plans.

[Anonymous No.15833826]

>>15833823
>possibility
Anon, that has always been the plan. What do you think a rocket hyper-optimized for LEO is going to do?

[Anonymous No.15833830]

>>15833721
SpaceX is actually just a way to get the everything app to Mars. It must be spread throughout the galaxy.

[Anonymous No.15833843]

>>15833721
>In March 2023, Musk registered X Corp. in Nevada. On the same day, Musk registered the artificial intelligence (AI) company X.AI.[12] Later that month, Musk applied to merge X Holdings I with X Holdings Corp. and Twitter, Inc. with X Corp.[3] In the filing, Musk revealed that X Holdings Corp. has $2 million in capital; X Holdings Corp. will also serve as the parent company for X Corp.[13] In a company-wide email that month, Musk announced that Twitter employees will receive stock in X Corp.
This will come as a package for web3: ID, payment, AI, medical, UBI, social, passport, the whole globohomo awakening deal.

[Anonymous No.15833854]

I can't watch stuff like this, not because shes low IQ and annoying, but just because I keep imagining what an absolute SOWE she would be as one of the only women on a Mars colony, getting her cervix battered day in day out and having 30 kids.

Does anyone else have similar thoughts?

[Anonymous No.15833860]

>>15833854
to clarify, she would be MOANING like a PIG in the hab next to yours so much so that you cant sleep.

[Anonymous No.15833879]

I LOVE KEKBOXES

[Anonymous No.15833883]

So, it turns out that Soyuz capsules do sometimes roll over as well

[Anonymous No.15833884]

I need to stop following this industry so closely
>two more weeks
>two more months
and accept that things move very slowly

[Anonymous No.15833886]

>>15833879
what

[Anonymous No.15833887]

>>15833854
>>15833860
Degenerate freak.

[Anonymous No.15833890]

>>15833886

[Anonymous No.15833896]

>>15833887
Incel.

[Anonymous No.15833905]

>>15833890
Is this a flyby thing? I'd go for that ride, I just wouldn't want to share it with any of you.

[Anonymous No.15833908]

>I can't watch stuff like this, not because shes low IQ and annoying, but just because I keep imagining what an absolute SOWE she would be as one of the only women on a Mars colony, getting her cervix battered day in day out and having 30 kids.

>Does anyone else have similar thoughts?

[Anonymous No.15833911]

Nope, not gettin' out of this chair.

[Anonymous No.15833912]

>>15833896
Yeah youre totally not an incel typing out those obvious porn addict messages. Go outside and socialize for once in your life instead of watching porn for 9 hours s day you projecting miserable freak

[Anonymous No.15833931]

>>15833905
> freefall gymcel for two years where the highlight is watching Mars pass by from your cuckbox
its all yours anon

[Anonymous No.15833938]

>>15833779
literally who?

[Anonymous No.15833944]

>>15833911
Gem

[Soyjaker No.15833947]

4cuck niggers can never stop saying kek or anon, its like they get raped by them

[Anonymous No.15833949]

>>15833733
anon this is /efg/ - elon fanboy general

[Anonymous No.15833950]

>>15833931
>2 years of peaceful isolation with a once-in-a-lifetime view of Mars outside the porthole halfway through
Sign me up chief, I'm ready

[Anonymous No.15833957]

>>15833908
go back

[Anonymous No.15833958]

>>15833908
gem

[Anonymous No.15833959]

>>15833912
deluded basedbot

[Anonymous No.15833972]

>>15833883
Non-steerable parachutes can do that sometimes on windy days. It's no problem really as the retro rockets still slow it down, and the crew is strapped in

[Anonymous No.15833981]

Post a neat photo from your /sfg/ folder

[Anonymous No.15833995]

>>15833981
This isn't spaceflight but it's what I think of when I imagine large scale infrastructure being assembled in orbit. You should make big things in space.

[Anonymous No.15834003]

so whats going to happen to spacenews? is it kill?

[Anonymous No.15834005]

>>15833981
not a photo but a webm

[Anonymous No.15834007]

>>15833981

[Anonymous No.15834009]

[Anonymous No.15834015]

>>15833860
God how I long to hear that

[Anonymous No.15834017]

>>15833981

[Anonymous No.15834026]

>>15833981
Luna landers are bigger than you think

[Anonymous No.15834032]

>>15834017
Delta II really had a good run of it for a while

[Anonymous No.15834033]

>>15834017
spacex-hockey-stick-graph-#999.jpg

[Anonymous No.15834035]

[Anonymous No.15834048]

>>15833981

[Anonymous No.15834052]

>>15834035
I hate admitting this but the space shuttle feels WAY more ‘shorts and t-shirt’ than Dragon 2

[Anonymous No.15834060]

>>15834052
starship is going to feel 'pajamas and underwear' then

[Anonymous No.15834062]

Seems like a wasted opportunity that they never sealed up the Shuttle cargo bay and held a 0-g rave in there.

[Anonymous No.15834090]

>>15834060
I don’t disagree and I’m really looking forward to it. I suggest everyone on /sfg/ get a tape measure and physically mark out 9 meters, just to get a sense of how fucking huge Starship is going to be. It’s one thing to imagine SS as this fantastically big rocket, but once you get a sense of the actual size it’s insane

[Anonymous No.15834103]

>>15834062
and let the radiators cook them alive?

[Anonymous No.15834106]

https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1719801569191878667

> BREAKING: The United States Space Force has awarded @SpaceX $1.23 billion in rocket contracts for 10 launches.

[Anonymous No.15834108]

>>15834106
not sure if this is breaking though, isn't this the same one as this >>15832465

[Anonymous No.15834109]

>>15834103
Crack a window if it starts getting warm in there

[Anonymous No.15834119]

>>15833817
does the government force gravitics to post about it?

[Anonymous No.15834128]

>>15833854
lmao
well i have now

[Anonymous No.15834131]

>>15833938
a startup developing Starship size spacestation modules

[Anonymous No.15834135]

>>15834003
probably continue as is just under a new umbrella

[Anonymous No.15834148]

>>15834017
Sad how the Space Shuttle was ramping up just as Challenger exploded. That explosion guaranteed low cadence and the failure of the program. Shuttle had inherent flaws which we all know, but if NASA hadnt got locked on this fastety before everything policy it would have had twice the cadence easy

[Anonymous No.15834151]

>>15833995
What is this object for context?

[Anonymous No.15834153]

>>15833779
An unfortunate side effect of gravitics being based in california

[Anonymous No.15834156]

ThinkOrbital released a video of its Canadaarm like robotics in space welding device.
Lots of cool concepts here

https://thinkorbital.com/in-space-construction/

[Anonymous No.15834173]

>>15834156
>the high frontier
Do they realize how dumb this sounds?

[Anonymous No.15834183]

>>15834173
NTA but all these poser companies need to be cut like grass. Stoke is in that basket. Blue Origin at least has the dignity of having an oldspace boomer vibe rather than a vaporware techbro one.

[Anonymous No.15834200]

>>15834151
The bottom part of an off-shore oil rig, you sink that part over the well then attach the rest of the rig at the surface. I don't know if they can refloat them after sinking, which makes me wonder how many old ones there are left just abandoned as artificial reefs.

[Anonymous No.15834209]

>>15834173
They're just hipsters repeating phrases that sound trendy to them

[Anonymous No.15834233]

>>15834209
I hate hipsters so much

[Anonymous No.15834242]

>>15834173
>>15834209
You try to coin a phrase that resonates for 50 years.

[Anonymous No.15834246]

[Anonymous No.15834247]

>>15834209
>>15834242
I don't know what this is, but it looks just as, if not more gay than >>15834156

[Anonymous No.15834251]

>>15834246
What was the eagle's role on the crew?

[Anonymous No.15834264]

>>15834247
Back in the 70s people thought that geostationary solar power stations would be a great way to decouple the west from reliance on middle eastern oil. You could build everything on Earth and loft it up to GEO a dozen tons at a time, but since a single power array would weigh something like 40k tons it'd really be more efficient to build them in geostationary orbit using materials mined and processed on the moon. Of course, this would require a huge workforce so O'Neil proposed building giant space colonies to house all the people. Then OPEC got its panties unknotted and everyone realized that nuclear power was just more economical than lunar mining outposts and the whole idea collapsed, but not before it inspired Mobile Suit Gundam.

[Anonymous No.15834267]

>>15834251
flight specialist

[Anonymous No.15834268]

>>15834242
whos this hooker on his shoulder?

[Anonymous No.15834273]

>>15833798
Furfag with pathological attentionseeking behaviour. You’re ill in the brain.

[Anonymous No.15834275]

>>15834183
Hobbitlab is literally the biggest offender of them all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY0CXlOeWHI
>one of the most reliable and frequently launched rockets every year
LMAOOOO

[Anonymous No.15834277]

>>15834267
heh

[Anonymous No.15834278]

>>15833981
inshallah

[Anonymous No.15834291]

>>15834275
>one of the most reliable and frequently launched rockets every year
that's not a wrong statement
only Soyuz, F9 and Long March had more launches

[Anonymous No.15834292]

>>15834275
I hate Beck. It was instantly apparent to me upon seeing him that hes a no ambition CEO whos happy to just launch electron forever (he only developes Neutron and makes vaporware annoucnements about capsules because of investor pressure). Then I saw the interview with Zubrin, where Zubrin brings up the planned Venus probe and enthusiastically tells Beck ways he can make the mission more useful and longer duration for little cost, and Beck basically tells him to fuck off, making it clear that hes only doing the misison for PR and doesnt care about the exploration value.

[Anonymous No.15834295]

>>15833981

[Anonymous No.15834298]

>>15834291
being 4th barely counts. they throw a pitiful amount each time hence the penis humiliation 100x zoom cuckbox
>reliable
kek. out the window now more than ever

[Anonymous No.15834300]

>>15833981
Soyuz assembly

[Anonymous No.15834303]

>>15833981

[Anonymous No.15834316]

>>15834295
SOVL

[Anonymous No.15834320]

>>15834303
god this gets me hard

[Anonymous No.15834331]

>>15833721
is x.com a reference to x com (the game)??

[Anonymous No.15834332]

interesting

[Anonymous No.15834336]

>>15834331
also it's weird that a space flight simulator game has the same logo as x.com which is owned by the same guy as spacex

does elon own xcom??

[Anonymous No.15834337]

>>15834320
Now imagine plucking one from the zero g chamber and twisting its head from its spinal cord with your teeth, then spitting the carcass and the head back into the chamber.

[Anonymous No.15834339]

wtf it's the same

[Anonymous No.15834341]

>>15834332
regulation cucks us once again...
forget the atmosphere, we should have been thinking about the government all along.

[Anonymous No.15834345]

>>15834339
Elon started game design with blastar, x-com was his last game and x.com is a tribute to that

[Anonymous No.15834346]

>>15834156
think orbital is based
this is the CTO talking about welding in space
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVzUmQ6Oi5c&

[Anonymous No.15834349]

>>15834209
lol, but they are actually developing technology to build oneill cylinders for example
this is very appropriate language from them

[Anonymous No.15834351]

>>15834264
it got put on hold like everything space related, the time of space stations is coming

[Anonymous No.15834356]

>>15834156

[Anonymous No.15834358]

>>15834356

[Anonymous No.15834359]

>>15833810
I love this meme, but fuck Job Trunicht.

[Anonymous No.15834361]

>>15834358

[Anonymous No.15834380]

So what about the news we were supposed to get today?

[Anonymous No.15834385]

>>15834359
I blame Yang. The man either should've had the decency to die where his ideals led him, or pulled up his pants before then and sorted out the shitshow that was his government.

[Anonymous No.15834389]

>>15834385
Yang was the consummate professional when they genuinely needed the usurper he refused to be.

[Anonymous No.15834390]

>>15834380
Mid November launch. So now it's officially two weeks.

[Anonymous No.15834391]

>>15834390
It isn't official.

[Anonymous No.15834397]

>>15833819
Lol. Lmao. Expect a LK clone like all the other shit they have done.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a26975/china-soviet-lander-lk/

[Anonymous No.15834399]

>>15834361

[Anonymous No.15834409]

>>15834389
when the government he reinstated out of pure idealism and commitment to democracy turned around and needed him to die so that democracy could continue, I fully expected him to agree. Turns out the man is a hypocrite, and when push comes to shove, doesn't really care about that stuff: he'd rather save his ass. If he was more honest with himself, he would've taken the opportunity to countercoup greenhill and install a government full of people that wouldn't try to kill him in his retirement, or surrender like Truniht did.

[Anonymous No.15834413]

>>15834242
50 years apart in age, holy shit

[Anonymous No.15834418]

Space perspective posted this

> Our Spaceship Neptune is so tall, in part, because of our SpaceBalloon™, which contributes nearly 104 meters (almost 341 feet) to the overall height. High-altitude balloons were once the only means for humans to reach the upper atmosphere. We’re excited to continue this tradition with our reimagined #spaceflight experience and join the wider #space #tourism movement alongside experiences offered by #SpaceX, #VirginGalactic, #AxiomSpace, and #BlueOrigin.

[Anonymous No.15834426]

>1000 ton payloads

Wot

https://x.com/cnspaceflight/status/1719845067782021128?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

[Anonymous No.15834428]

>>15834418
lol

[Anonymous No.15834431]

>>15834426
I think they mean 1000 ton in total with 100 launches, so 10 tonnes per launch

[Anonymous No.15834459]

>>15834426
implessive...
china is very strong

[Anonymous No.15834460]

>>15834426
Chink SpaceX ripoffs are always good because they give the American government reason to support SpaceX

[Anonymous No.15834475]

https://twitter.com/NASAArtemis/status/1719845873192988819
>The Netherlands just became the 31st country to commit to the peaceful and safe exploration of space as we look ahead to the Moon, Mars, and beyond

We got another one

[Anonymous No.15834485]

Does anyone know the max mumber of fligths a reused RS-25 did, and the typical number of flight reuses per engine?

[Anonymous No.15834486]

>>15833854
There's no chance this framing wasn't intentional
https://youtube.com/shorts/2PflMtzHR_4?si=7L5jC1Lh6uKplBwb

[Anonymous No.15834493]

>>15834106
>reposting day old news
>not even mentioning the DRACO launch

[Anonymous No.15834497]

>>15834486
BROOOOOO

[Anonymous No.15834518]

>>15834426
So they're targeting SpaceX-esque launch rates.

[Anonymous No.15834520]

>>15834486
Her face is dumb and ugly but sadly I have to say her feet are gorgeous.

[Anonymous No.15834531]

>>15834520
better than the other way around

[Anonymous No.15834540]

>>15833981

[Anonymous No.15834543]

>>15834531
true kek

[Anonymous No.15834559]

>>15834418
earth’s first Heavy Lift 64 rocket

[Anonymous No.15834572]

>>15834486
what a whore

[Anonymous No.15834586]

>>15834572
>>15834486
>>15834497
>>15834520
>>15834531
>>15833854
>>15833860
>>15834128
Incel samefag hands typed this.

[Anonymous No.15834592]

>>15834586
you wish

[Barkun No.15834599]

>>15834592
For excitement purposes. There's quadrillions of new things gained through the uplifts and shifts. If all is coming soon then you'll see. There's even quadrillions of things now you don't know and round about I know it all in the frame of how knowledge is. I also have many skills which I learned properly

I needed to know where my tone went before just to see if it was yes or no in frame of good or bad feeling if I could do something. Now I need to know if I am doing something so if you would please, where did my tone go this time?

[Anonymous No.15834606]

>>15834486
Sexy bitch. I just popped my nut over her soles..

[Anonymous No.15834608]

>>15834586
ha ha
you got me

[Anonymous No.15834624]

>>15834608
bruh u can't just take credit for my shitposts i will call u out on that

[Anonymous No.15834627]

>>15834586
>>15834592
>>15834608
>>15834624
All me btw

[Anonymous No.15834653]

Degenerate coomer freaks will never go to space btw. Enjoy urf and jerking off for half the day

[Anonymous No.15834654]

Minuteman III is literally a MINUTE man

[Anonymous No.15834669]

>>15834654
I swear to god that never happens to me

[Anonymous No.15834681]

>>15834654
every time I see this guy's twitter portrait I'm shocked he's not a trans woman

[Anonymous No.15834688]

>>15834486
is jessica kirsch a footslut?

[Anonymous No.15834691]

https://payloadspace.com/podcast/the-road-to-flight-2-with-dan-piemont-abl-space/
>refuses to reveal what abl means
>denies the economies of scale of rideshare
>refuses to livestream
What did they mean by this?

[Anonymous No.15834700]

Billions must receive a fast internet connection for a reasonable monthly fee

[Anonymous No.15834701]

>>15834700
$5 a month is the best I can do Elon

[Anonymous No.15834702]

>>15834486
this shits hilarious. she must know.

[Anonymous No.15834710]

>>15834399
I hope Brussels and New York are the first targets of the asteroid strikes :^)

[Anonymous No.15834714]

>>15834331
We'll be in touch, Commander.

[Anonymous No.15834715]

>>15834654
This is a bad look unironically
or am I over reacting?

[Anonymous No.15834717]

>>15834654
lmao it's over
The US military is collapsing

[Anonymous No.15834724]

>>15834715
The Russians did a missile test a week or so back too didn't they? I can't remember how that went for them.

[Anonymous No.15834726]

>>15834654
Is that a regular minuteman or one of the upgraded ones they haven't yet launched successfully?

[Anonymous No.15834727]

>>15834710
Very islamophobic and antisemitic post. Keep up the good work.

[Anonymous No.15834729]

SETC should build all ICBMs for the united states going forward. We need reliability, not oldspace complacency.

[Anonymous No.15834740]

>>15834717
boomer complacency and trannies

[Anonymous No.15834741]

>>15833325
lol we are going back to the Pizza Hut days

https://www.rt.com/russia/585751-russia-approve-advertising-on-rockets/

[Anonymous No.15834743]

>>15834724
It also failed
>>15834715
It's just embarassing

[Anonymous No.15834744]

>>15834741
Is $2M/yr supposed to be a lot? That's not even worth it when a single launch costs tens of millions.

[Anonymous No.15834751]

>>15834743
>It also failed
Wait a minute, can ANYONE successfully launch an ICBM these days besides North Korea?

[Anonymous No.15834753]

>>15834751
please understand, stratosphere is hard

[Anonymous No.15834757]

>>15834751
The Redstone rocket was perfect, and we didn’t need to try and “improve” anything about it
Thunderf00t proven right yet again

[Anonymous No.15834758]

>>15834741

[Anonymous No.15834761]

>just two more weeks for the starship environmental review to be finished stupid goy
surely they wont delay it until 2024 and ask for another year long environmental review, shirley.

[Anonymous No.15834798]

>>15834654
I wonder how much of the ICBM arsenal worldwide actually works....

[Anonymous No.15834799]

How realistic is Thinkorbitals stuff? Electron beam welding a huge space station together, launched by starship

[Anonymous No.15834800]

>>15834761
Why do the fish get a special mention anyway, aren't they part of wildlife?

[Anonymous No.15834804]

>>15834799
Completely
>EDDIT SPACE FOR DRAMATIC EFFECT
UNREALISTIC. Vast and Gravitics are the only real players

[Anonymous No.15834809]

I'm back on /sfg/ after 6 years. So, we have the license now right?

[Anonymous No.15834810]

>>15834799
Big spherical habitat is pretty dumb. Big spherical propellant tanks though, now that would be interesting.

[Anonymous No.15834811]

>>15834809
nope, two more weeks AS PER USUAL. also please stay im so sick of having to talk to all these newfags shitting up the general

[Anonymous No.15834814]

Man, I remember reading Manifold Space and they had subscriptions where you'd donate 10 bucks a month to fund the development of a rocket. I'd do that.

[Anonymous No.15834815]

>>15834744
US$2M is still not a lot, but their space program can use everything it can get. Luna 25 only had a budget of US$101M, and after it crashed there was a lot of talk about how it was supposed to have cost less than a quarter of that.

[Anonymous No.15834817]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-31/china-offers-cash-to-rocket-startups-in-hunt-for-its-own-spacex

[Anonymous No.15834818]

>>15834810
Once again, it’s the most volume per unit structure. it makes prefect sense when you’re mass constrained.

[Anonymous No.15834839]

>>15834715
Yes, he looks like a tranny

[Anonymous No.15834841]

>>15834811
Sure thing. What would you like to reminisce about? How are Zubrin stocks doing these days?

[Anonymous No.15834844]

>>15834841
>hes a zubrinfag

[Anonymous No.15834845]

>>15834799
Electron beam welding had been demonstrated I think, a robotic arm in space has been demonstrated, launching stuff into space has been demonstrated
So I dont see why they couldnt weld that sphere together, the question is then is it going to be useful for anything, are the welds good enough for holding an atmosphere, how do you create the rest of the station ( send up stuff and weld it in too using astronauts?)
Is it going to be competitive with modules?
They might demonstrate the tech, but is it too early to commercialize and thus the company dies?

[Anonymous No.15834851]

>>15834839
lel

[Anonymous No.15834853]

>>15834844

[Anonymous No.15834854]

>>15834839
by that logic everyone from 1700s europe was a tranny

[Anonymous No.15834867]

>>15834845
Once the sphere is formed I would send a couple of dudes up in a starship full of flat packed shit to fit it out and life support systems, leave the airlock open to starship so the atmosphere circulates and they can work inside in regular clothes instead of suits. It wouldn't be very hard I don't think. The real problem would probably be where you have to penetrate the shell to install things like power cables for solar and fluid pipes for radiators, although I guess you could pre install some kind of couplings on specific panels before you launch them and then just plug in shit. Idk it all seems pretty doable to me desu and in terms of cost/m3 of pressurised space would absolutely be waaaaay less than prefab modules.

[Anonymous No.15834876]

>>15834761
they haven't even started the environmental review of the deluge system yet. if you think they're ever going to let it launch, you're badly mistaken. musk is an enemy of the state and the ADL and oldspace will lose fortunes if SLS is shut down as a result of competition from spacex, so starship is never going to be allowed to fly again.

[Anonymous No.15834887]

>>15834653
nobody's going to space, anon! space is a meme!

[Anonymous No.15834892]

>>15834844
Who's dumber, zubrin or musk

[Anonymous No.15834896]

>>15833681
It's the demo rover they torture at jpl.
>>15833668
The wheel skirt has holes that leave some kind of bullshit code while rolling. Sharp rocks have been reaming the holes out and making the wheel skirt fragile. Jpl was testing ways to shear off the skirt without damaging the wiring.

[Anonymous No.15834905]

>>15834892
zubrin obviously

[Anonymous No.15834908]

>>15834688
She no bras a lot and goes to the beach with Ellie a lot. She's likely Ellie-sexual.

[Anonymous No.15834911]

>>15834744
It sure is, when $1M is going to Putin.

[Anonymous No.15834914]

>>15834896
>The wheel skirt has holes that leave some kind of bullshit code while rolling
>Compromising structural integrity to make some kind of ebin reddit post tier shit

Very cool JPL, why do we pay them billions of dollars again? Get gassed and give the money to Elon.

[Anonymous No.15834921]

>>15834853
god i love soup

[Barkun No.15834923]

>>15834921
Wrong way. Right wave of thought

[Barkun No.15834928]

>>15834923
Think about wrong and right as not literally but kind of like making space or physique.

[Anonymous No.15834944]

remember to report the namefag spambot

[Anonymous No.15834982]

>>15834702
Idk who redban is though

[Anonymous No.15834984]

>>15833854
mid af middle aged woman
are spacefags this desperate?

[Anonymous No.15834988]

>>15834984
Yes, THEY are.

[Anonymous No.15834992]

>>15834984
She's got some good titties, slampig material

[Anonymous No.15835000]

>>15834992
2d is better

[Anonymous No.15835014]

>>15835000
Digits confirm its true, now get in the airlock you dumb footfag incel coomers

[Anonymous No.15835043]

[Anonymous No.15835085]

>november 6 is off the table
https://twitter.com/wapodavenport/status/1719905010669019327

fuck

[Anonymous No.15835086]

>>15835085
Death to fish. Death to wildlife.

[Anonymous No.15835088]

>>15835085
>Were expecting license to come in but that did not happen. Now NET 13th.
https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/173i871/starship_development_thread_50/k79nez0/?context=3

[Anonymous No.15835089]

>>15834984
Where can I redeem the sex I am owed?

[Anonymous No.15835092]

>>15834654
holy shit, nobody's nukes actually work. How the hell does MAD work then? Genuinely confused.

[Anonymous No.15835107]

>>15835088
2 weeks

[Anonymous No.15835109]

>>15835085
L2 WAS RIGHT
VINDICATED
THIS PROVES THE EARLIER LEAK WAS TRUE AND THE REDDITOR IS A LIAR

[Anonymous No.15835122]

>>15835092
Israel is the only country allowed to have functioning nukes, stupid goy.

[Anonymous No.15835138]

>>15835109
Redditgroids get the exhaust AS PER USUAL

[Barkun No.15835142]

>>15835138
It would be on the top side. Let me think and I'll get back to you

[Anonymous No.15835143]

>>15834295

[Anonymous No.15835150]

>>15834295
Soulless

[Anonymous No.15835151]

>>15835150
incorrect, extremely sovlfull

[Anonymous No.15835156]

>>15834845
that's they they have the service module
once you weld it all together, you open valve with pressurised air and turn on the life support

[Anonymous No.15835187]

>>15835109
Imagine my shock

[Anonymous No.15835191]

>>15835156
just

[Anonymous No.15835193]

>>15834982
>Brian Redban. Producer: The Joe Rogan Experience.
presumably he expressed his "carnal desires" on air
I'm not sure, I've only seen like 3 JRE episodes
>>15833854
>Does anyone else have similar thoughts?
I think she looks like a sexy cow

[Anonymous No.15835194]

>>15835191

[Anonymous No.15835195]

>>15835191

[Anonymous No.15835228]

>>15835092
They test these missiles from time to time. The previous one in February successful. Two or three failures in a row would be very alarming. Though this one is concerning too if they fail to trace it to a defect that can detected.

https://www.spaceforce.mil/News/Article/3294932/minuteman-iii-test-launch-showcases-readiness-of-us-nuclear-forces-safe-effecti/

[Anonymous No.15835233]

>>15835109
>the redditor is a liar
>Things everyone knew from day one.

[Anonymous No.15835239]

>>15835092
>a total nuclear war, all-weapons-launched scenario
>turns out not anywhere close to apocalyptic because only 3% of warheads made it to their destination and exploded

[Anonymous No.15835241]

>>15835239
Oldpsace saves the entire planet

[Anonymous No.15835256]

>>15834798
what a waste of fissile material

[Anonymous No.15835262]

>>15835256
These missile tests are conducted with simulated payloads, not real ones.

[Anonymous No.15835271]

>>15834681
to me he looks like Thulsa Doom with wavier hair

[Anonymous No.15835319]

>>15834242
>You try to coin a phrase that resonates for 50 years.
Space is hard.

[Anonymous No.15835329]

>>15833697
Still no images of Dinkinesh yet. It's already been around 18 hours since flyby. Spacecraft is broken, millions of dollars wasted.

[Anonymous No.15835359]

>>15835329
go to any busy slum in India and you can probably see dinkinesh a few times.

[Anonymous No.15835360]

>>15835262
Remember when Russia launched a missile into Ukraine that had a simulator warhead lol

[Anonymous No.15835387]

Netherlands and Iceland sign Artemis Accords, Artemis Accords: What are they & which countries are involved?
--
https://spacenews.com/netherlands-and-iceland-sign-artemis-accords/
> WASHINGTON — Two more countries have signed the U.S.-led Artemis Accords outlining best practices in space exploration, one of which did so with no fanfare.
---
https://www.space.com/artemis-accords-explained
> The Artemis Accords lay out the framework for collaborating nations as we enter the next era of lunar exploration and beyond.
> One of the key principles of the Artemis Accords is to affirm the importance of countries complying with 1967's Outer Space Treaty (or the Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the moon and Other Celestial Bodies to give it its full title).
> Additionally, the accords affirm the importance of the Rescue and Return Agreement opened in 1968, which emphasizes the responsibility of nations to safely return astronauts and equipment to Earth and further space-related policies such as 1972's Liability Convention and 1975's Registration Convention.
> The Artemis Accords were first launched and signed by eight nations in October 2020, with representatives of its signatory nations meeting in person for the first time at the International Astronautical Congress in Paris on September 19, 2022.
> In terms of scope, the accords relate to activities in orbit, on the surface, and in the subsurface of the moon, Mars, comets, and asteroids. It also covers the stable orbital points known as the Lagrangian points for the Earth-moon system and is applied to objects in transit between these celestial bodies and locations.

key principles
> Peaceful Exploration of space
> Transparency:
> Interoperability
> Emergency Assistance
> Registration of Space Objects
> Preserving Heritage
> Space Resources
> Deconfliction of Activities
> Orbital Debris

[Anonymous No.15835397]

https://twitter.com/DrPhiltill/status/1719908306347516244

[Anonymous No.15835398]

Anyone got a pdf of Mars City States? It's too obscure to be on libgen, and I don't wanna pay Zubrin 80 bucks to get a copy.

[Anonymous No.15835406]

Galactic 05 is today!!!

[Anonymous No.15835419]

>>15835406
Their flights are so gay.

[Anonymous No.15835422]

>>15835398
So is the Mars Society just the Seasteading Institute but for space nerds

I cannot believe they're that retarded

[Anonymous No.15835423]

>>15835398
It's on z-lib

[Anonymous No.15835474]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-eaxJYtNZE

interviewing people people such as Pam Melroy

[Anonymous No.15835493]

>>15835474
pam is getting old

[Anonymous No.15835494]

>>15835474
>Translation:
PIG interviewing an old lady right before her oinking session

[Anonymous No.15835500]

>>15834758
wtf is that from, some old movie?

[Anonymous No.15835503]

David Willis shared these, new renders of HLS

[Anonymous No.15835506]

>>15835503

[Anonymous No.15835507]

>>15835503
>Human sized windows
I doubt.
These renders always have too many windows because they look sexy, but the real version will not have windows greater than a meter in diameter. They will look tiny from outside the craft.

[Anonymous No.15835509]

>>15835503
My prediction holds true that Lunar (and probably mars) Starship will use crush falcon 9 derived legs

[Anonymous No.15835511]

>>15835398
I would, but marspapers.org is down.

[Anonymous No.15835514]

The Air Force Research Laboratory Space Vehicles Directorate, within the U.S. Department of Defense, has awarded Intuitive Machines the Joint Energy Technology Supplying On-Orbit Nuclear Power (JETSON) Low-power Mission Application contract.

https://investors.intuitivemachines.com/news-releases/news-release-details/afrl-space-vehicles-directorate-selects-intuitive-machines

[Anonymous No.15835527]

>>15835503
>>15835509
They're fucking KSP screenshots you retards

[Anonymous No.15835529]

>>15834540
Ignition! is such a fun and scary read.

[Anonymous No.15835532]

>>15835527
youre on acid, no they are not.

[Anonymous No.15835535]

>blocks your interplanetary dreams

[Anonymous No.15835537]

>>15835535
Common Sense Skeptic should debate Zubrin. The winner decides if the case for mars or the case for plovers is more convincing

[Anonymous No.15835541]

Tenacity is complete!

https://www.sierraspace.com/newsroom/press-releases/sierra-space-introduces-dream-chaser-spaceplane-tenacity/

[Anonymous No.15835544]

https://twitter.com/ElonMusk/status/1715580219397210441

>"Final regulatory approval expected within 48 hours. Aiming for launch as soon as Tuesday."

[Anonymous No.15835549]

>>15835043

[Anonymous No.15835550]

>>15835503
https://twitter.com/ThePrimalDino/status/1720073146852618450/

Fag kept the new HLS renders for a while before sharing. Whats his problem?

[Anonymous No.15835551]

>>15835092
>How the hell does MAD work then?
The same way money does: collective belief.

[Anonymous No.15835552]

>>15835550
>Whats his problem
that he's a fat faggot SLS stan

[Anonymous No.15835553]

>>15835550
He's been too focused on eating cheetos, it slipped his mind

[Anonymous No.15835554]

>>15835532
Modded KSP with shaders. Why the fuck would David Willis, a guy who isn't a journalist or ever had any special access to SpaceX or NASA, get exclusive HLS renders?

[Anonymous No.15835557]

>>15835554
HE OWNS 10% OF THE SHARES IN SPACEX.

[Anonymous No.15835559]

>>15835554
Because face it, he has connections and you dont

[Anonymous No.15835566]

>>15835387
lmao

[Anonymous No.15835570]

>>15835559
You need to go back David

[Anonymous No.15835572]

>>15835544
I knew it

[Anonymous No.15835585]

>They're back cleaning up the debris. Talked with Texas Park and wildlife. The reason nothing was done for a long time was not to disturb bird nesting. They went way out of their way to agree with me that we're both on the same side. They also made it clear it could take a really long time to pick up every last piece of concrete without stressing the wildlife.

https://twitter.com/clwphoto1/status/1720084374681768194?t=GWJjdHVPeAWHYMJj0eEGKw&s=19

Jesus

[Anonymous No.15835589]

>>15835585
Oh no

https://youtu.be/52dVfhgt_T4?t=694
https://youtu.be/eJK1gLHbOxA?t=1136

[Anonymous No.15835593]

>>15835544

[Anonymous No.15835595]

>>15835503
Upscaled, logo recognition is shit

[Anonymous No.15835594]

>>15835585
don't they have a mating season or something? Just pick them up when they're not nesting, it's that easy.

[Anonymous No.15835596]

>>15835595
>>15835506

[Anonymous No.15835598]

>>15835503
it's fake

[Anonymous No.15835601]

>>15835585
What a dumb reason. Why do they need to remove every single concrete in a fucking swamp? Its part of the nature now. Not like they're toxic or anything.

[Anonymous No.15835602]

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1720089050567279031

Virgin Galactic launch 05 live

[Anonymous No.15835604]

>>15835601
kiss the boot chud

[Anonymous No.15835606]

https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1719972906023739709/

[Anonymous No.15835610]

>>15835604
What a gay post

[Anonymous No.15835617]

>>15835610
ok :(

[Anonymous No.15835618]

>>15835329
It'll take a week to downlink what they got

[Anonymous No.15835620]

>>15835585
This is fucking insane

[Anonymous No.15835622]

>>15835544
Fucking hell

[Anonymous No.15835632]

>>15835620
honbestly its good that they took their time to not cause further damage. it takes as long as it takes.

[Anonymous No.15835633]

>>15835601
Concrete is actually extremely alkaline IIRC, with a pH around 12/13. Potentially a problem

[Anonymous No.15835640]

>>15835606
good luck everybody else!

[Anonymous No.15835645]

>>15835633
Nah, cement is alkaline while it's active. After hardening the concrete is pretty much neutral.

[Anonymous No.15835648]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720098480037773658
>starlink is cash flow positive

[Anonymous No.15835651]

What is the reason the next Starship launch must wait for the concrete debris cleanup to be finished? Why not pause, give clearance to launch, then resume the cleanup a week from now?

[Anonymous No.15835654]

i just tuned in. whats the research being done on virgin galactic?

>>15835503
>>15835506
good thinking. lunar power will work better from an elevated position due to the lunar night, just like the peaks of eternal light.

[Anonymous No.15835656]

>>15835651
because the point is to slow down/prevent Starship from proceeding under the guise of “regulatory work”

[Anonymous No.15835662]

>>15835651
>What is the reason the next Starship launch must wait for the concrete debris cleanup to be finished
Happening in your head

[Anonymous No.15835678]

>>15835554
That looks nothing like KSP, what the fuck are you on about retard?

[Anonymous No.15835679]

>>15834119
I'd be surprised if there wasn't a requirement that they routinely post about their dedication and zeal for the new faith

[Anonymous No.15835682]

https://twitter.com/eager_space/status/1720099169678004532

Eager Space released new Starship/Superheavy optimization content

[Anonymous No.15835686]

>>15835662
That's the reason the FWS gave

[Anonymous No.15835695]

>>15835596
24 solar panels x 2 pairs each x 5 side/wings

240 solar panels. if each one is 200 watts (SPACE GRADE LIGHTWEIGHT) each 48 KW of solar panel.

I wonder if lithium burns in space at all because theres no oxygen there

[Anonymous No.15835701]

Virgin galactic 05 just finished and no posts about it? Damn

[Anonymous No.15835703]

>>15835701
tbqh, these high jumps aren't really interesting, I mean its great for the company selling tourism, but same with BO's hops, its nothing impactful meaningful in grand scheme of things

[Anonymous No.15835704]

>>15835701
>spaceflight general
not spaceflight: literal theme park ride

[Anonymous No.15835713]

>>15835595
>you will never wake up in the morning, slowly fall down to the common area for breakfast and look out of a 50 meter high window over the landscape of the moon while sipping your morning coffee

[Anonymous No.15835723]

>>15835701
This is the spaceflight general, sir.

[Anonymous No.15835727]

>>15835704
>>15835723
They went to space for a short time.

[Anonymous No.15835730]

>>15834106
Haven't been following F9/FH news on a while: Does FH have the extended fairing yet?
I think SF requires 20x5m or something like that?

[Anonymous No.15835734]

>>15835648
but... but... but this was deboonked!

[Anonymous No.15835736]

>>15833630
It was originally called Bug Chaser, a reference to homosexual men who seek to contract HIV by having unprotected sex with infected men, but it was decided that this name was not gay enough.

[Anonymous No.15835738]

>>15833759
It's called X, bigot

[Anonymous No.15835739]

>>15835686
>That's the reason the FWS gave
Delusional. The FWS said the environmental assessment is being redone due to the deluge.
They have not said that debris cleanup is on the critical path for launch

[Anonymous No.15835740]

>>15835730
They have been testing it.

[Anonymous No.15835743]

>>15835734
Speaking of blunders.. ere he compares profit with revenue. And if Starlink was a money burner in those final few bars then thats some insane income from just commercial launches. It's almost like refurbishing boosters actually saves money..

[Anonymous No.15835745]

>>15835738
Cringe. go back to pol

[Anonymous No.15835747]

>>15834540
>nobody was killed
>but there was one casualty
So the guy who got accelerated to mach 2 and had a heart attack in mid air survived?
What is he even describing here?
Did the entire cylinder turn into an accelerating rocket with the man on top of it? Did the fuel partially detonate when it got free? If so he wouldn't be picking up speed while flying. Also it's written like the heart attack arrested his flight but I'm assuming he meant it stopped his conscious experience/life. This whole sentence seems like needlessly imprecise prose for the sake of dark humor.

[Anonymous No.15835748]

Birds were flying before humans. They deserve precedence.

[Anonymous No.15835755]

>>15835745
Why? /pol/ is welcome here.

[Anonymous No.15835757]

>>15835734
Mit dem Syndrom von Kessler wird das alles in Ordnung kommen...

[Anonymous No.15835759]

/sfg/ is and has always been bigoted, you cant change that.

[Anonymous No.15835761]

>>15834331
>xcom (1994) has the final mission take place in Cydonia, a region of Mars
>elon is trying to get to Mars
Coincidence? I think so.

[Anonymous No.15835766]

>>15834331
It all starts to make sense when you realize the anti-civilization extinctionists have made a deal with the ayys.

[Anonymous No.15835770]

Bros I need an eyeball estimate. If solar panel manufactures insure their solar panels for 25 years then what would be the average solar panel lifespan? And what would be the failure chance for a solar panel before it reaches 25 years?

[Anonymous No.15835771]

>>15833721
Thank you for posting spaceflight relevant news. Your newsposting has been a welcome addition to /sfg/

[Anonymous No.15835779]

>>15835585
FUCK BIRDS

[Anonymous No.15835780]

>>15835648
Nice. I suspected ~2 years for break even operations and anything after that being free. Same as solar panels breaking even after ~5-7 years and then anything after being free electricity

[Anonymous No.15835786]

>>15835770
Your starting assumptions don't seem very useful for getting the information you want.

0.05% annual failure rate and 0.5% annual degradation rate, courtesy of google

[Anonymous No.15835789]

>>15835786
Thats fucking insane. solar is a meme bungus technology

[Anonymous No.15835790]

>>15835786
thanks

[Anonymous No.15835793]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQp9UdppD-4

[Anonymous No.15835795]

>>15835789
what's insane about those numbers?

[Anonymous No.15835797]

>>15835648
great milestone, not that it was much in doubt lately or in recent history

[Anonymous No.15835803]

>>15835786
(1 - 0.0005)^25 = 98.8% 25 year survival rate with (1 - 0.005)^25 = 88.2% of the original power output on the remaining units
Is that right?

[Anonymous No.15835809]

>>15835695
>I wonder if lithium reacts with oxygen in an environment with zero oxygen present

[Anonymous No.15835812]

>>15835701
airplane ride to the mesosphere is not spaceflight related

[Anonymous No.15835813]

>>15835748
Nothing deserves anything.

[Anonymous No.15835815]

>>15835812
>>15835704
>>15835723
It's spaceflight general not orbit general, I'm pretty sure they're flying in space

[Anonymous No.15835817]

How do we force birds to develop continuously rotating propellers? Wing flapping is inefficient.

[Anonymous No.15835820]

>>15835815
They didn't cross the karman line and they never went above the mesosphere, you can be pretty sure but you're incorrect and so is Virgin. They offer a trip to a space-like environment, not space.

[Anonymous No.15835822]

>>15835817
Force them to evolve higher brain function and improved tool-manipulating dexterity then tell them to start working on inventing aircraft engines.

[Anonymous No.15835828]

>>15835770
~1% degradation per year is the average ~10 years ago. This gave them ~20 year warranty @ 70% efficiency with ~10% margin easily. Today, it might be 0.5% every year.

In otherwords, it will easily last your entire life before it reaches 60% of the initial stated efficiency.

[Anonymous No.15835830]

>>15835822
But I need them to have a propeller in place of the beak

[Anonymous No.15835833]

>>15835830
I think the best thing to do is to grab a bird by the neck and put its head in your mouth then chomp and twist its head clean off

[Anonymous No.15835837]

>>15835828
yes they have the usual slow degradation of ~0.5% a year, but it seems like most solar panels just fail before they reach 50 years of age, and this is what I am curious about, if they would only degrade like 0.5% a year and not fail suddenly they would be excellent power sources.

[Anonymous No.15835839]

>>15835837
Weather issues and maintenance issues really.

Keep the panel clear of dust/fallen leaves/debris and you wont kill your panel.

[Anonymous No.15835842]

>>15835837
its so disgusting how stuff like this happens.

[Anonymous No.15835843]

KILL DESTACKERS BEHEAD DESTACKERS
https://twitter.com/VickiCocks15/status/1720123029366116820?t=eSduaAUxwWTnsmhRFCqm_A&s=19

[Anonymous No.15835844]

>>15835839
how do those things kill a panel?

[Anonymous No.15835850]

>>15835844
If you have damp leaves stuck to panels, it creates a black spot, while becomes place for dirt to accumulate, this dust growth leads to bacterial/insect growth, which leads to acidification of the panels because these organisms release acids as waste byproducts, etc.

[Anonymous No.15835851]

>>15835817
Ornithopters are key to the Golden Path

[Anonymous No.15835855]

>>15835850
But glass should be inert to acids and any degradation basically, and is easy to clean.

[Anonymous No.15835862]

>>15835743
I suspect the Ukraine commitment derailed some of those projections. They've sacrificed somewhere in the ballpark of a half a million antenna units to that war. That doesn't account for total projections, but 500k terminals even at $100/mo is an extra $600M/yr~. Which isn't a lot relative to that chart, but its still significant.

That said, for Starlink to be cashflow positive per: >>15835648, means, its the first megaconstellation that's actually successful.

[Anonymous No.15835864]

>>15835855
Maybe not directly at the center of the solar panel, but if the dark patches grow into the corners, it can grow inside.

>is easy to clean
Yes, thats why basic maintenance is necessary. But some people wont maintain their stuff and leave it on top of the roof for decades.

[Anonymous No.15835870]

when's the next virgin launch?

[Anonymous No.15835879]

https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1720125546858778973

Starship torch orders being shipped

[Anonymous No.15835883]

>>15835870
January or February, this was supposed to be the last one of the year

[Anonymous No.15835886]

>>15835862
Yeah, if its true that its cashflow neutral soon to be positive then its insane. I have been a SpaceX fan since back when falcon had the square engine layout, and when I heared they were planning a mega constellation to pay for Starship I was worried about their probability of success.
What Musk has done is nothing short of heroic. All the while thunderfags have sneered from the sidelines at every hurdle. Thunderfoot was saying half a decade ago the launch market wont grow so reusable rockets wont be economical, so Musk just made the new market himself. Its this kind of graft that will get us to Mars.

[Anonymous No.15835891]

Whatever happened to the NASA+ streaming service that was supposed to come out this year?

[Anonymous No.15835896]

>>15835843
LICENSE DAY

[Anonymous No.15835900]

>>15835360
lol, yeah, that was something, alright.

[Anonymous No.15835912]

>>15835757
why are you speaking netherlandish

[Anonymous No.15835915]

/sfg/pol/
https://www.iiss.org/publications/strategic-comments/2023/the-surge-of-activity-in-relations-between-north-korea-and-russia/

I've occasionally commented on space cooperation between Russia and the Norks previously, now I have details about recent talks if people are interested. I think Russia is trying to tempt Kim away from domestic rocketry and into commercial flights on Russian rockets (and given this is happening in public, it's likely China is also pursuing this in private).

[Anonymous No.15835918]

>>15835915
russia did this to south korea. it killed south korean spaceflight for decades.

[Anonymous No.15835919]

>>15835915
Kim needs a moon base. Anything less is pussy talk.

[Anonymous No.15835920]

>>15835843
they have to destack to strap the bombs to vehicle.

[Anonymous No.15835930]

>>15835915
There's no domestic Nork spaceflight. Russia just wants Norks to get higher tech level so they can act as another buffer against American aggression. A powerful Nork is an additional threat to America.

[Anonymous No.15835948]

>>15835833
based fish and wildlife annihilator

[Anonymous No.15835959]

>>15833697
>>15835329
https://twitter.com/NASASolarSystem/status/1720143596811104371
>This is why we explore. Turns out that asteroid Dinkinesh is asteroids Dinkinesh? During the Lucy Mission’s first asteroid flyby on Nov. 1, we discovered that the main belt asteroid is a party of two, or binary pair!

[Anonymous No.15835962]

>>15835959
https://www.nasa.gov/image-article/nasas-lucy-spacecraft-discovers-2nd-asteroid-during-dinkinesh-flyby/
Cool gif from the article

[Anonymous No.15835965]

>>15835747
Maybe it's a joke and the guy just so scared that he keep running away until he had a heart attack?

[Anonymous No.15835970]

>>15835959
>>15835962
Oh cool it has a little buddy

[Anonymous No.15835980]

>>15835962
On its way to becoming a contact binary I think

[Anonymous No.15835989]

>>15835980
last time i checked your dads lips are a contact binary with my penis.

[Anonymous No.15835993]

>>15835989
Faggot

[Anonymous No.15836005]

>>15835989
kek

[Anonymous No.15836008]

>russia-north korea space cooperation
>minuteman 3 failure
>arrow missile intercept
its a fun week for military spacefags

[Anonymous No.15836038]

wow

[Anonymous No.15836041]

>>15836008
wasn't there a Russian ICBM that failed a few days ago too?

[Anonymous No.15836052]

>>15836041
it is imperative that US close the failure gap with Russia

[Anonymous No.15836058]

>>15836041
No it didnt Ukraine tranny.

[Anonymous No.15836063]

>>15836041
i remember there being a video. was it a russian missile? i didnt save it.

[Anonymous No.15836067]

>>15836038
RS25 isn't worth it.

[Anonymous No.15836100]

Which will happen sooner:
a)first fusion reactor connects to the grid
b)Starship lands in the moon

[Anonymous No.15836106]

>>15836038
Wow only 125 million an engine. Thats cheap.

You can buy 2 Superheavy + Starship stack

[Anonymous No.15836107]

>>15836100
b, assuming it doesnt take 400 years for starship to land on the moon.

[Anonymous No.15836108]

>>15836100
the third one

[Anonymous No.15836111]

>>15835747
Casualty is dead + wounded, so he shat bricks and ran like hell before getting a heart attack which he survived.

[Anonymous No.15836127]

>>15835862
Technically, positive cashflow isn't equivalent to breakeven, and doesn't in itself qualify as a success. After all, no matter how bad things are, you can easily achieve positive cashflow in the (extremely) short term by stopping all spending and continuing to collect payments from customers. Less dramatically, but equally unsustainably, if you get done launching a constellation, and your income just barely covers your operating expenses, you could be cashflow positive right up until your first satellites start to EOL, you can't afford to replace them, and you file for bankruptcy.

Of course, Starlink is on an entirely different trajectory, and there's no reason to think it won't proceed to breakeven and long-term success, so I apologize for the meaningless pedantry.

[Anonymous No.15836130]

>>15836127
based explainer

[Anonymous No.15836140]

>>15836127
meaningless pedantry BUILT /sfg/

[Anonymous No.15836143]

>>15836100
Starship.
No commercial fusion startup is even close to net electricity, despite what anyone claims. 20 more years.

[Anonymous No.15836161]

>>15836143
more like never. fusion will never be net positive, let alone economcially viable.

[Anonymous No.15836172]

>>15836161

[Anonymous No.15836176]

Ken Mattingly; another one gone
I guess NASA is just slowly waiting for every Apollo astronaut to croak before trying to go back to the Moon

[Anonymous No.15836180]

>>15836172
let not forget the time they said rockets wouldn't work

[Anonymous No.15836183]

>>15836172
how many billions of dollars of research did they put into making flying machines in the 1800 hundreds? I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.15836200]

Since I had the pleasure of making the last thread someone else should bake now. Any ideas for OP?

[Anonymous No.15836202]

>>15836200
Faggot, also two more weeks edition (again)

[Anonymous No.15836234]

>>15836100
c) Starship gets permission to launch

[Anonymous No.15836239]

>>15836038
To be fair, $40M in 1979 is $170M today. Today's price would be about $35M in 1979 dollars.

I'm not going to say that they can't do better. SpaceX is aiming to build Raptors for just $60k 1979 dollars.

[Anonymous No.15836251]

>>15834062
spacelab module had the functionality

[Anonymous No.15836260]

>>15836200
https://spacenews.com/chinas-ispace-launches-and-lands-rocket-test-stage/

[Anonymous No.15836262]

>>15834336
anon, X-COM Interceptor was garbage and not a real game

[Anonymous No.15836266]

>>15836038
Wow that's hella cheap considering inflation

[Anonymous No.15836276]

>>15836172
I used to be a fusionfag too, and still am for spaceflight purposes, but truly there are much cheaper ways to boil water. it will not be economically viable until there are no fossil fuels left on Earth

[Anonymous No.15836284]

>>15834710
Australia, as was prophesied

[Anonymous No.15836288]

Before the widespread proliferation of the ‘aeroplane’, do you think humans would routinely look up and get jealous of birds

[Anonymous No.15836292]

>>15836288
still do :(
Flying is heckin expensive, even paragliding, which is basically a piece of cloth with strings

[Anonymous No.15836295]

>>15836288
Constantly

[Anonymous No.15836298]

>>15836288
yes-and after the failed emu wars, the nazis created rockets to genocide the birds. Rockets are still flown to eliminate fowl to this day. Why do you think SpaceX have falcon, kestrel, merlin, etc in the name

[Anonymous No.15836330]

>>15836288
There's endless ancient myths about that stuff. And you even have stuff like this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lag%C3%A2ri_Hasan_%C3%87elebi

[Anonymous No.15836338]

>>15836330
Technically possible. There's also stories of people in China in middle ages getting airborne for a few seconds using kites, also entirely possible.

[Anonymous No.15836343]

>Starlink achieves positive cashflow

[Anonymous No.15836354]

fine I'll do it myself

[Anonymous No.15836361]

Staging!!!!
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[Anonymous No.15836437]

Another day not leaving ball earth.. Golem bros not like this

[Anonymous No.15836453]

>>15836176
DSP outlives another one