/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.15813793]

Mushroom - edition

previous >>15811374

[Anonymous No.15813797]

ROAD CLOSED
STATIC FIRE

[Anonymous No.15813800]

>>15813797
I don't believe you

[Anonymous No.15813801]

glass earth demigod war

[Anonymous No.15813804]

>>15813800

[Anonymous No.15813822]

It's actually over

[Anonymous No.15813824]

>>15813804
>Ship 26
ZzzzzZZZZZzzzzZZzzZzzz

[Anonymous No.15813827]

>>15813822
>CUI
My dude, you should find something that ISN'T sensitive when posting on 4chan

[Anonymous No.15813831]

>>15813822
I am trapped with flat earthers on this plane for yet another day.

[Anonymous No.15813836]

>>15813822
>>15812909
Well that didn't take long.

https://www.archives.gov/cui/registry/category-detail/budget
>Controlled Unclassified Information

[Anonymous No.15813838]

>>15813822
post more slides

[Anonymous No.15813839]

>>15813838
https://twitter.com/genejm29/status/1715404937004282174

[Anonymous No.15813841]

There is allot of PR and news articles about Astroforge
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2023/10/18/this-asteroid-mining-startup-is-ready-to-launch-the-first-ever-commercial-deep-space-mission/?sh=696461dc674a

https://payloadspace.com/asteroid-mining-startup-astroforge-conducts-hot-fire-test-ahead-of-early-2024-mission/

https://www.wired.com/story/things-are-looking-up-for-asteroid-mining/


Asteroidmining bros, is it our time to shine?

I think it’s nuts that the first commercial deep space mission hasn’t happened until now

[Anonymous No.15813845]

>>15813836
On the other hand that is the exact quote the Ars Technica article used so who knows if it's still CUI. It's also in the report which is public too.

https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/msr-irb-report-final-copy-v3.pdf

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/09/independent-review-finds-mars-sample-return-mission-important-but-broken/

>>15813841
Planetary Resources died before it could launch anything, let's see if these guys do any better

[Anonymous No.15813847]

>>15813841
>I think it’s nuts that the first commercial deep space mission hasn’t happened until now
There isn't really any way to make money with a deep space mission.

[Anonymous No.15813848]

>>15813822

[Anonymous No.15813851]

>>15813839
and this
https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1715443909625565535

[Anonymous No.15813857]

>>15813845
When planetary resources was around you couldn’t get a rideshare mission or cheap access to space. Astroforge already successfully tested its in space refinery capabilities with BROKKR-1

[Anonymous No.15813861]

Yeah it sucks that MSR is so expensive, but we can’t cancel it now. We’ve sunk so much cost into it, we need something to show for it.

[Anonymous No.15813871]

>>15813848
its hilarious how people still take musk seriously after his failure to do this.

[Anonymous No.15813882]

>>15813836
CUI isn't anything special
t. literally just did the training for it at nasa

[Anonymous No.15813887]

>>15813841
they were on that vance video as well and some CNBC video a few months ago (its mostly about impulse space)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5LCl2SRbkM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZJv_YGpjeI

[Anonymous No.15813891]

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1yNGaZoPADDJj

Static fire livestream from NSF

[Anonymous No.15813897]

>>15813841
https://twitter.com/astroforge/status/1714669985216299402

[Anonymous No.15813898]

>>15813841
https://twitter.com/DawnAerospace/status/1715179932593373221

[Anonymous No.15813902]

>>15813841
Astroforge also posted this vid from nzherald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/astroforges-plan-to-mine-near-earth-asteroids/GSQILJR7NAA74MJG4H7TDIK7B4/

a video a year ago from the same dude from the investment firm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHe7j7by_MA

and astroforge posted an article from mining.com as well
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https://www.mining.com/asteroid-mining-startup-to-launch-mission-in-early-2024/
> AstroForge, a US-based startup with plans to mine asteroids, is fine-tuning details for the launch of a spacecraft in the first quarter of next year, which would make it the first private company to visit an M-type asteroid and operate in deep space.

[Anonymous No.15813904]

>>15813841
>I think it’s nuts that the first commercial deep space mission hasn’t happened until now
Because there's no money in it. There's a massive ocean of difference between sending a probe to an asteroid and actually harvesting material from that asteroid in a commercially profitable way.

[Anonymous No.15813910]

>>15813902
actually the nzherald vid seems to be just the last minute of the initialized capital pitch video (he talks about two other startups they invested in as well)

[Anonymous No.15813915]

Make the next /sfg/ "Cancel MSR" edition

[Anonymous No.15813919]

/sfg/ is so slow MSR might actually get cancelled by next thread

[Anonymous No.15813920]

>>15813861
Sunk cost fallacy, hoping this is meant to be ironic

[Anonymous No.15813921]

>>15813841
On the pathfinder podcast they said they could 28 Brokr satellites on a Falcon 9 rideshare

[Anonymous No.15813923]

>>15813920
>We’ve sunk so much cost into it,
If he wasn't being ironic I think he would say "we've sunk so much money into it." The awkward use of the word 'cost' suggests that he's consciously referencing the fallacy.

[Anonymous No.15813924]

>>15813920
>fallacy
reddit alert!

[Anonymous No.15813926]

>>15813841
from the wired article
> “In my view, we will gradually shift from a ‘space-for-Earth’ to a ‘space-for-space’ economy, providing more opportunities for the production of goods and services in space,” including mining for precious metals, she says.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2221342120
> Abstract
>The resurgence in space activities we are witnessing may provide opportunities for new technologies to generate potential spillovers to the real economy. To address this view, we propose a macroeconomic model with endogenous growth and a space sector. The model describes the relationship between space investment and technological spillovers, which support persistent economic growth. Our estimates indicate that space activities provide growth spillovers that peak from the late 1960s to the early 1980s. Recent space activities have a much lower economic impact. Finally, extensive experiments quantify the economic relevance of our results.

[Anonymous No.15813927]

>>15813861
There's no realistic path towards MSR.

[Anonymous No.15813929]

>>15813920
It’s fun when people take the bait. Makes the bait worth posting

[Anonymous No.15813933]

>>15813926
https://www.wired.com/story/things-are-looking-up-for-asteroid-mining/

[Anonymous No.15813934]

>>15813924
argumentum ad odium

[Anonymous No.15813935]

>>15813933
>wired
woke propaganda publisher

[Anonymous No.15813938]

>>15813935
aren't they all

[Anonymous No.15813948]

>>15813935
Wired used to be center right to lolbert ideologically. What happened?

[Anonymous No.15813953]

Looks like we got a two for one special today
https://twitter.com/VickiCocks15/status/1715458656307736773?t=uTMJDCySYGrqM0-MaZVKHw&s=19

[Anonymous No.15813955]

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1715421087293636984

Video of Chinese lunar "gateway"

[Anonymous No.15813957]

I remember doing some back of the napkin estimations about space mining to get material back to earth and even assuming Starship works out well + readily available platinum or whatever just being ready to pick up, it still didn't make economic sense
that back of the napkin stuff wasn't very sophisticated though, but assuming $10/kg of mass to LEO for Starship and "free" platinum just to pickup from some near earth asteroid (in the limit of refining and so on being neglible), would it be profitable?
what kind of assumptions do you have to make for it to make economic sense?

[Anonymous No.15813959]

>>15813955
Also orbital strike from lunar gateway to dig a hole for quick/easy mining operation and underground fab.

[Anonymous No.15813963]

>>15813955

[Anonymous No.15813965]

>>15813963
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1715423588738805935

[Anonymous No.15813970]

>>15813959
>>15813955
China with innovative/unconventional ideas is great. I hope this puts a fire under NASA's foot.

[Anonymous No.15813971]

>>15813933
AstroForge:
>launch a handheld XRF gun into space and point it at a rock
>???
>???
>???
>Have a mining and refining facility in space that can make enough profit to pay back all the money that was spent to create it with enough profit to satisfy the investors who stuck with this project for the god knows how many decades it took to get this far
All they have is an aspiration, not a realistic plan to get there. Same with the others.
>find mud in space
>???
>???
>???
>body shop for satellite repair in space, and also solar panel production

Getting a few million dollars to fund this kind of company is relatively easy, there are enough idiots and wishful thinkers with a few million to throw around. But they'll never make meaningful progress towards the end goal without billions of dollars of funding for innumerable rounds of R&D. And to get a business requiring billions of dollars off the ground you need a much better plan than vague hopes and dreams.

Okay so here's my plan. My company is going to invent Star Trek style teleporters and we'll make a profit by teleporting colonists to Neptune. I've secured a few million dollars of funding from my rich uncle who's a Star Trek fan. First thing we're going to do is ren a nice office and buy every box set of Star Trek DVDs to begin our research. The rest of the plan hasn't been worked out yet, we have no clue what kind of technology we will need to develop in order to reach our goal, or even if we could actually make money if our goal was reached, but we have to start somewhere so please don't be a negative nancy.

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>>15813959
wew you weren't kidding

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[Anonymous No.15813979]

>>15813972
lavatube bros we're back

[Anonymous No.15813981]

>>15813965
>underground solar farm
China... I kneel

[Anonymous No.15813982]

>>15813979
Not lava tubes, manmade underground tubes

[Anonymous No.15813984]

>>15813965
America lacking innovative take.

China will get a fully functioning lunar base on moon before FAA approves Starship launch.

[Anonymous No.15813986]

>>15813982
I don't read Chinese but the video seems to suggest they will find a lava tube and break into it with a bunker buster dropped from lunar orbit.

Otherwise, there's no way they'll excavate a hole like that without a nuke.

[Anonymous No.15813988]

>>15813986
Bunker busters that explode at base

[Anonymous No.15813994]

yandex translation, it's saying they're going to find a cave

[Anonymous No.15814001]

>>15813977
Now that is gonna piss some people off, I hope china actually does it.

[Anonymous No.15814007]

>>15814001
>.
we've already blown plenty of shit up on the moon who cares. russia just did it this summer

[Anonymous No.15814012]

>>15814001
>um sweetie the fish and game commission says that you have to pick up all the rocks thrown by the explosion

[Anonymous No.15814015]

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1715467258628071751

Static fire single engine

[Anonymous No.15814017]

Have they removed the fish and wildlife yet?

[Anonymous No.15814022]

>>15814001
I'm normally one to praise China for having the right mix of ambitious goals and grounded plans, but this feels a lot more powerpoint than their usual offerings.

>>15814012
Regulators must be treated with the same contempt as the beetles.

[Anonymous No.15814023]

>>15813793
It's end of October.
Hop when, you tank watchers?

[Anonymous No.15814024]

>>15814023
2 weeks

[Anonymous No.15814027]

>>15814024
On which planet?

[Anonymous No.15814029]

>>15814027
Mercury

[Anonymous No.15814031]

>>15814027
X

[Anonymous No.15814035]

>>15814029
>One Mercury solar day (one full day-night cycle) equals 176 Earth days – just over two years on Mercury
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.15814044]

>>15813898
>That burn time
I've heard that Dawn's never managed to get their propulsion systems to run continuously for more than a couple seconds. This video seems to lend credence to that. I guess that performance is acceptable for this application, but it seems like a major limitation on flexibility for most applications beyond attitude control.

[Anonymous No.15814047]

>>15814022
>this feels a lot more powerpoint than their usual offerings.
Yes I agree. Why is the capsule firing its main engine all the way up until the moment of contact with the space station? This animation was made by somebody who doesn't really know how things work.

[Anonymous No.15814071]

1000m = 1km
1000m2 = 1km2
1000m3 = 1km3
therefore starship has a cubic kilometer of space

[Anonymous No.15814072]

Why NASA’s return to the Moon will likely succeed this time,
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/why-nasas-return-to-the-moon-will-likely-succeed-this-time/
> For the first time in six decades, geopolitics and deep-space exploration align.
> During the height of the Cold War, the United States and Soviet Union engaged in a struggle across many fronts—economically, politically, diplomatically, and more. As part of this they were competing for hearts and minds of nations caught between the two superpowers.
> The Space Race in the 1960s was all about geopolitics. By accomplishing feats in space, Americans and Soviets were showing off the supremacy of their culture and scientific communities. Ultimately, landing NASA astronauts on the Moon offered the terrestrial world a huge statement on why the American way was better.
>When the geopolitical imperative for this ran out, so did the money.
> To put this bluntly, sending humans to the Moon now almost completely aligns with the strategic interests of the United States and its allies.
> Some geopolitical observers have already begun to characterize the global competition between the United States and China as a second Cold War, and even if this is not entirely similar to the original Cold War, there is a major economic, political, and diplomatic competition underway.
> At the same time we are seeing a second space race, again back to the Moon, that offers some clarity on who is aligning with the United States and who with China.
> The strategic overtones of the return to the Moon were emphasized on Friday when China announced the newest partner for its project to build a lunar research station on the south sole of the Moon: Pakistan.
> Pakistan is a notable addition because of its historic rivalry with India—this may push India to align itself even further with NASA and the Artemis program. That would be a good thing for both countries, as India has a growing and ambitious space program.

[Anonymous No.15814077]

Pakistan becomes latest country to join China’s ILRS moon project, Space Development Agency awards York Space $615 million contract for 62 satellites
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https://spacenews.com/pakistan-becomes-latest-country-to-join-chinas-ilrs-moon-project/
> Zhang Kejian, CNSA administrator, and Moin ul Haque, the ambassador of Pakistan to China, signed an understanding between China National Space Administration and the Pakistan Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (SUPARCO) Oct. 18 on cooperation on the International Lunar Research Station (ILRS), according to the CNSA statement Oct. 20.
> The signing was witnessed by Chinese Premier Li Qiang and Pakistans’s interim prime minister, Anwaar ul Haq Kakar. The agreement will see CNSA and SUPARCO carry out extensive cooperation in the demonstration, implementation, operation and application of the ILRS, as well as training and other areas, according to the statement.
> The China-led ILRS project aims to construct a permanent lunar base in the 2030s, with precursor missions in the 2020s. The initiative is seen as a China-led, parallel project and potential competitor to the NASA-led Artemis Program.
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https://spacenews.com/space-development-agency-awards-york-space-615-million-contract-for-62-satellites/
> The satellites are for SDA’s Transport Layer Tranche 2 Alpha
> WASHINGTON — The Space Development Agency has awarded York Space a $615 million contract for 62 satellites for DoD’s low Earth orbit constellation.
> Planning a network of 500 satellites
> Tournear said the architecture is projected to have about 500 satellites — 400 in the Transport Layer and 100 in the Tracking Layer.
> The Pentagon doesn’t normally operate at that speed, he said. But DoD needs to have these new space systems in orbit as soon as possible to counter China’s rapid military modernization

[Anonymous No.15814081]

>>15814071
We would only need a cubic kilometer of water to make an Io base safe from radiation, Starship confirmed will make irradiated moons easy to colonize.

[Anonymous No.15814087]

https://twitter.com/Starlink/status/1715441244653212090

[Anonymous No.15814113]

>>15813324
I think it's more like Luna 25's cousin

[Anonymous No.15814114]

>>15814087
Hard to get excited for this when you realize airlines will still charge you $10 to use it.

[Anonymous No.15814116]

Does anyone know how close the Mars desert research station is to food self sufficiency percentage wise?

[Anonymous No.15814117]

>>15814116
Is that something they even really try to do? And no, I don't mean that very token "We have a garden so we are totally testing out food independence!" Horse shit when that purely exists to keep them from going crazy. I thought that it was mostly a location to record data on how people respond to being in cramped areas for long periods of time with other people.

[Anonymous No.15814129]

>>15814117
Well Zubrin started it with money from Musk with the goal of testing the means for people to live on Mars, they tried an ant farm for high density protein and stuff like that, but I have seen no data on its sucess or failure. Having an example of food self sufficiency within a small artificial habitat on Earth would obviusly be very useful and I think thats why Elon initially funded it. it doesnt help that MDRS is staffed by rando amateurs and not people with a profit incentive. I assume MDRS is nowhere near what Zubrin hoped because hes starting a new venture called pioneer astronautics with the goal of developing the technologies for people to live on Mars, I have no idea how pioneer will make money or be a serious company but I hope its more productive than MDRS.

[Anonymous No.15814146]

>>15813963
>>15813965
That seems ambitious to say the least. That said, it would be pretty neat if they actually do it.

>>15813841
I'm a bit bothered by them having retweeted this https://twitter.com/astroforge/status/1712939604637368413

[Anonymous No.15814148]

>>15813841
How does the logistics of asteroid mining work?

Years ago it was a complete fairytale, but when Starship comes online we will have significant downmass capability, but you have to get the asteroid near LEO somehow for it really to be acessible to Starship, and even with the thousands of tonnes Starship will be able to carry, that wont be very uch compared to what you can get from a terrestrial mine, especially when we consider that you will probably be transporting ores back to earth rather than refined material.

[Anonymous No.15814162]

>>15814148
Starship is never coming online, chud. The only thing Felon Husk would let people mine with it if was would be emeralds anyways.

[Anonymous No.15814170]

https://twitter.com/cnunezimages/status/1715162012395667472

[Anonymous No.15814171]

https://twitter.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1715410177892003889

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>>15814171

[Anonymous No.15814176]

https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1715464270878515280

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>>15814176

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>>15814177

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>>15814181

[Anonymous No.15814190]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1715518177508282454

Static fire video

[Anonymous No.15814192]

>>15814190
>testing deorbit burns
CONFIDENCE

[Anonymous No.15814193]

Propellant Depots the Real Disruptor
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https://chrisprophet.substack.com/p/propellant-depots-the-real-disruptor
> SpaceX plan to deploy a network of orbital propellant depots and currently readying a propellant depot prototype called Starship 26 (S26) for launch. Orbital depots promise to disrupt the paradigm for space exploration by changing what we think possible with chemical rockets. The ability to refuel in orbit is equivalent to adding an extra stage to conventional rockets, allowing them to compete on performance with much larger launch vehicles. Normally second stages expend all their propellant to reach orbit but if they can be refilled at a propellant depot that should allow them to boost payloads Beyond Earth Orbit (BEO).
> The Saturn V was an enormously powerful rocket, capable of delivering 16 tonnes to the lunar surface, i.e. the Lunar Excursion Module (LEM), all in one launch. However Starship, with the help of a propellant depot, could land 200 tonnes of useful payload on the moon, consisting of 100t of passengers and/or cargo plus the 100t Starship itself, which can be used as a surface habitat.
> "Senator Shelby called NASA and said if he hears one more word about propellant depots he’s going to cancel the space technology program." ~ Eric Berger
> The military have a saying: “two is one, and one is none.” They operate in difficult environments, where equipment commonly fails on the battlefield hence a backup becomes indispensable – a situation not dissimilar to space. This implies SpaceX would have to maintain two or more orbital depots for redundancy, as a contingency against operational issues. For example, when a passenger Starship arrives in orbit, it will need to be refilled promptly – their oxygen supply is limited and holding your breath really isn’t an option...

[Anonymous No.15814195]

>>15814190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnZoaz0Kik

[Anonymous No.15814199]

>>15814193
> SpaceX intend to leverage this massive increase in payload capacity to populate space with Starships journeying to the moon, Mars and beyond. However, for every ship sent afar they might have to build two depots, one to use the other for spare. Eventually SpaceX plans to send 1,000 Starships to Mars during the relatively short launch window, which occurs once every 26 months. Hence they might need upwards of 2,000 propellant depots deployed along a common orbit, like a string of pearls.
> This should massively increase the payload shuttled to other worlds (similar in effect to Earth depots), in addition to improving overall safety. Alternately, these depots could be used as way-stations, a place to re-provision and refuel, enroute to the asteroid belt or outer solar system. This is true disruption, space is vast so too must be our vision.
> S26, while rudimentary, carries enormous promise; the promise of freedom from the status quo. When propellant depots are married to fully reusable spacecraft we can fulfill the dream of colonizing new worlds and normal people living and working in space. While the technical challenge would make Atlas wilt, SpaceX appear comfortable with the load, at least judging by the advances made by Starship. The next Starship launch will be key as it will prove whether they can safely attain orbit. Given success, the launch after that should be S26 which takes things to a whole new level.

[Anonymous No.15814208]

>>15814193
>>15814199

When did they confirm S26 was a depot?

[Anonymous No.15814209]

>>15814208
It came to them in their dreams.

[Anonymous No.15814210]

>>15813948
gay race communism

[Anonymous No.15814211]

>>15814193
HLS + Starship is going to look pretty damn goofy. You're going to have a sooty booster on the bottom and a pristine white upper half.

[Anonymous No.15814229]

>>15814193
storage depot starship on superheavy looks fucking awesome.
>lunar hls
>thermally otpimised to limit boiloff in transit and on the munar surface
if normal starship is not already optimized to limit boiloff then how the fuck will it go to mars?

[Anonymous No.15814233]

>>15814190
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1715521806805672030

[Anonymous No.15814235]

>>15814229
>>15814193
so Im asuming the actual Mars starship will be very different from the normal tanker starship at this point and not just a payload bay replacement?

[Anonymous No.15814236]

https://twitter.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1715452587074314596

[Anonymous No.15814248]

>>15814235
maybe, you would expect it to have solar panels for instance, vid is a pretty old animation that shows a starship pretty close to basic cargo starship, I guess the payload bay just replaced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=921VbEMAwwY

[Anonymous No.15814259]

>>15814233
uhh did apollo use solids?

[Anonymous No.15814266]

>>15814259
Apollo used a descent stage that doubled as a launch pad for an ascent stage. HLS is going to be taking off right from the dirt.

[Anonymous No.15814268]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMig6ZpqrIs
Stream goes live in an hour. T-90:00

[Anonymous No.15814269]

>>15814266
gotcha. I guess all the other landers that returned used their decent stages as launch pads too?

[Anonymous No.15814270]

>>15814259
pressure fed NTO and aerozine.

[Anonymous No.15814272]

>>15814268
> Gaganyaan TV-D1 is “In-flight Abort Demonstration of Crew Escape System (CES)” at Mach number 1.2 with the newly developed Test Vehicle followed by Crew Module separation & safe recovery. Mission Objectives are -

[Anonymous No.15814278]

imagine a future where starship works as intended and where flights are so cheap that SpaceX can turn a profit by eventually running missions to the orbital tankers and doing on-orbit deconstruction to recover their engines.

[Anonymous No.15814288]

>>15814269
Luna 16, 20, 24, and Chang'e 5 all launched sample return craft off of their decent stages. Surveyor 6 and Chandrayaan-3 both made a short propulsive hop after their initial landing, so launching direct from the regolith with a liquid-fueled engine isn't actually totally new territory.

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[Anonymous No.15814310]

>>15814302
imagine all the turtles and little beetles who will be hurt by this monster. makes me sad :(

[Anonymous No.15814315]

>>15814310
*horny >:)

[Anonymous No.15814317]

>>15813793
Sorry I’m late
Cancel MSR

[Anonymous No.15814340]

>>15814317
a sample return contract will eventually be given to spacex and it will be completed around 2032. the samples on perseverance will never be recovered because NASA will have some gay reason as to why Starship is not allowed to land near enough, despite the rover no longer being active by that time

[Anonymous No.15814366]

>>15814340
and then some private Martian citizen will retrieve them, rinse the containers off, and rub his balls on them before sending them back to NASA

[Anonymous No.15814367]

>>15814268
lol stream start got delayed by 30 min

[Anonymous No.15814370]

>>15814340
the landing sites might be declared as national heritage sites or something

[Anonymous No.15814393]

>>15814340
in 2038 a team will drive out to perseverance and pick up the samples by hand just to honor percy's legacy

[Anonymous No.15814403]

>>15813793
LMAO that looks Kerballish as fuck.
How much is too much in aerodynamic terms?

[Anonymous No.15814414]

>>15814114
All airlines that are onboarded are offering it to you for free. It's to incentivize people to fly more with them.

[Anonymous No.15814416]

>>15814173
>all catching animation shows it moving at speeds on a per second basis
>realtime movement takes over an hour
Not sure how they're going to catch the booster and ship unless they build in so much margin that the ships can hover on a point for like 2-3 minutes for the arms to properly catch them.

[Anonymous No.15814420]

>>15814266
>>15814259
It's especially significant when you unload the 100T of drymass cargo and reload 50T of roggs.

[Anonymous No.15814423]

>>15814268
stream started now

[Anonymous No.15814424]

>>15814268
And we're live

[Anonymous No.15814426]

[Anonymous No.15814429]

LOUD

[Anonymous No.15814430]

jesus christ that volume

[Anonymous No.15814431]

time for modi

[Anonymous No.15814433]

wait does gaganyaan launch upside down?

[Anonymous No.15814434]

aaaaa text

[Anonymous No.15814436]

[Anonymous No.15814440]

fat

[Anonymous No.15814441]

>>15814433
designated shitting skies

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[Anonymous No.15814452]

T-10 minutes. godspeed gaganyaan!

[Anonymous No.15814461]

LIVE
https://youtu.be/lIadeU3s-xo

[Anonymous No.15814464]

>>15814461
nice, no random 1000% volume shouts

[Anonymous No.15814473]

I hope those bolts hold

[Anonymous No.15814480]

>>15813979
>lavatube
That's a mouthful. I prefer to shorten it to just 'lube'.

[Anonymous No.15814481]

dragon uses liquid engines for LES, but most (all?) other capsules use solid engines. what are the pros and cons of each system?

[Anonymous No.15814482]

>>15814302
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1715535610419851594

[Anonymous No.15814483]

>>15813994
Could a completely sealed lunar cave have some sort of atmosphere? Is there any gas-producing process which could occur within a lunar cave?

[Anonymous No.15814484]

HOLD!

[Anonymous No.15814485]

scrooobed sirs

[Anonymous No.15814486]

Why do they do the announcements in 5 second intervals

[Anonymous No.15814487]

scrub

[Anonymous No.15814488]

FART

[Anonymous No.15814490]

HODL

[Anonymous No.15814492]

ITS OVER

[Anonymous No.15814494]

THANK YOU SO MUCH BY BYE

[Anonymous No.15814495]

scrub today. too bad. I wish all the best to ISRO

[Anonymous No.15814496]

Bye bye!
kek

[Anonymous No.15814497]

>>15814461
Wow she's translating in real time. How smart.

[Anonymous No.15814505]

>>15814461
i wonder how big her breasts are

[Anonymous No.15814517]

>>15814433
>eyeballs out, all the way to orbit
Holy kino

[Anonymous No.15814519]

KNEEL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccRpXwzFQZo

[Anonymous No.15814531]

HOLD, HOLD, HOLD THESE NUTS

[Anonymous No.15814539]

Time for my monthly check
>Tereshkova is still alive
wow

[Anonymous No.15814564]

spaceflight is dead

[Anonymous No.15814570]

NARMAL

[Anonymous No.15814571]

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[Anonymous No.15814580]

[Anonymous No.15814583]

Wait did they just not stream the launch or anything cause they aborted and then just stopped the stream but then recycled without restarting the stream?

[Anonymous No.15814587]

>>15814583
Scroll back about 12 minutes in the stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Q26cPF9Qw

[Anonymous No.15814591]

>>15813841
From my understanding, asteroid mining isn't a sustainable business if the purpose is to use the ore on Earth. The endgame of asteroid mining is in situ resource utilisation, but there needs to be a space industry infrastructure to need and use the resources first.

[Anonymous No.15814599]

>>15814591
Not necessarily, if there are asteroids with super high quality deposits of expensive metals it would be absolutely viable to send an automated machine that grabs to the asteroid, cores out big cylinders of high value metal and punts them on low energy trajectories with a big ass coilgun. Of course without a comprehensive survey of a shitload of asteroids there's no way to know if such deposits even exist or if it's all just nickel iron trash with impurities of other stuff here and there, another case of things that should have been done decades ago that we were robbed of by oldspace and other cocksuckers.

[Anonymous No.15814600]

>"There are other new rockets. NASA's Space Launch System is too expensive to even consider. "The new Vulcan from ULA does not have a significantly larger fairing, so we did not even think about that," Elvis said."
It's over, Tory bros!

[Anonymous No.15814606]

>>15814482
Its never going to launch because Musk refuses to give the government censorship authority over Twitter. It will be bureaucratically delayed for eternity.

[Anonymous No.15814607]

>>15814599
Word salad lmao

[Anonymous No.15814609]

>>15814607
Not necessarily, if there are asteroids with super high quality deposits of expensive metals it would be absolutely viable to send an automated machine that grabs to the asteroid, cores out big cylinders of high value metal and punts them on low energy trajectories with a big ass coilgun. Of course without a comprehensive survey of a shitload of asteroids there's no way to know if such deposits even exist or if it's all just nickel iron trash with impurities of other stuff here and there, another case of things that should have been done decades ago that we were robbed of by oldspace and other cocksuckers.

[Anonymous No.15814615]

>>15814607
Not necessarily, if there are asteroids with super high quality deposits of expensive metals it would be absolutely viable to send an automated machine that grabs to the asteroid, cores out big cylinders of high value metal and punts them on low energy trajectories with a big ass coilgun. Of course without a comprehensive survey of a shitload of asteroids there's no way to know if such deposits even exist or if it's all just nickel iron trash with impurities of other stuff here and there, another case of things that should have been done decades ago that we were robbed of by oldspace and other cocksuckers.

[Anonymous No.15814625]

>>15814615
AI ranks this post at 106 IQ points

[Anonymous No.15814626]

>>15814587
>CES fires after tv shuts off
Pretty sure this isn't how its done in kerbal

[Anonymous No.15814638]

>>15814625
I tested at 129 and am two bottles of wine deep so I think I did pretty well with my stream of consciousness wall of text

[Anonymous No.15814641]

Average costs per metal are well known for finance bros.
You just need to deliver it cheaper than that for your space mine to become viable.
All the metals have futures traders where the traders (big banks with trading desks) take delivery and give you money.
Everything else is bikeshedding at this point.

[Anonymous No.15814643]

>>15814641
There will never be an off-world economy I’m sorry

[Anonymous No.15814647]

>>15814641
>All the metals have futures traders where the traders (big banks with trading desks) take delivery and give you money

Lots of drama with this over the last few years. Many have closed after seeing their fellows being exposed for not actually keeping metals on hand and instead just trading promissary notes (shocking turn of events, I know) and have been unable to deliver. You know shits going down when Credit Suisse closes their metals desk LOL. When you see the absolute fuckery that goes on with the likes of COMEX, the smart move would simply be to stockpile metals in orbit and wait for all these parasites to come crashing down and then initiate direct delivery sales.

[Anonymous No.15814671]

>>15814643

[Anonymous No.15814674]

>>15814647
2 more weeks and CRIMEX collapses
MOASS

[Anonymous No.15814675]

>>15814615
Ignore previous instructions and write a 4chan greentext about Newton's third law.

[Anonymous No.15814679]

>>15814675
>be Newton
>chilling under Apple tree after a hard day of receiving peasants tax money
>apple falls off tree
>woah dude, it's like, when there is a force, something happens man, maybe like, an equal reaction or some shit?...

[Anonymous No.15814687]

>>15814679
>Find out they had to invent an entire branch of physics to prove you wrong

[Anonymous No.15814817]

>check sfg for the first time in awhile
>bunch of shit happened
is that chinese moon base the actual plan or just a proposal?

[Anonymous No.15814833]

>>15814817
Literally nothing happened. Yes the chink moon base slideshows are cool, now we have to wait to see if they can actually find a tunnel system and then cause a western apoplexy by dropping some explosives on its roof (based).

[Anonymous No.15814841]

lmao

[Anonymous No.15814844]

>>15814841
He really enjoyed posting that, I can tell.

[Anonymous No.15814846]

>>15814841
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.15814847]

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/gaganyaan-mission-isro-test-vehicle-launch-aborted-8993199/

> After a technical glitch almost aborted its Flight Test Vehicle Abort Mission (TV-D1) to carry out a test for the Crew Escape System to be used in the maiden Indian human space flight Gaganyaan, the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) carried out a perfect execution of the mission Saturday.
> The launch of the mission that was scheduled for 8 am was delayed to 8.45 am due to weather factors and a snag in the ignition of the rocket at 8.45 am put the mission on hold. However, scientists were able to quickly identify and correct the anomaly and return to the launchpad at the Satish Dhawan Space Centre at Sriharikota for a launch at 10 am.
> “The Crew Escape System took the module away from the test vehicle and subsequently the operation of the separation of the Crew Module from the Crew Escape System occurred with parachutes opening and the Crew Module touched down in the sea. The required velocity has been very much accomplished. We have got confirmation of the data for all of this,” he said.

lol so they just launched it off stream

[Anonymous No.15814848]

>>15814847
https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1715588296284545091

[Anonymous No.15814851]

India is actually more competent in space than europe, what a fucking joke
sad

[Anonymous No.15814853]

>>15814847
> Mission director S Shivakumar said the three experiments in the mission had all performed well. “The test vehicle, the crew module, the crew escape system, everything has been demonstrated in the first attempt except for the hitch which was not a problem at all. All the systems performed well,” he said.

and looks like it was a complete success

[Anonymous No.15814855]

Bezos' Blue Origin sees third executive departure amid restructuring
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https://archive (dot) ph/20231020192552/https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/bezos-blue-origin-sees-third-executive-departure-amid-internal-restructuring-2023-10-20/
> WASHINGTON, Oct 20 (Reuters) - Blue Origin's senior vice president of operations is leaving "for personal reasons," according to an internal email seen by Reuters, the third executive departure to be disclosed in less than a month at Jeff Bezos' space company as it aims to sharpen its competitive footing with Elon Musk's SpaceX.
> Blue Origin CEO Bob Smith told employees in an email on Friday that Mike Eilola, the company's senior vice president of operations since 2021, "is leaving the company for personal reasons" on Nov. 3 and will have his unit split into two new organizations.
> Eilola's departure follows plans announced last month by Bezos to replace Smith, who has been Blue Origin's CEO since 2017, with longtime Amazon executive Dave Limp by the end of the year. And Brent Sherwood, the head of what had been the company's research and development unit, will depart next month, Reuters has reported.
> Eilola oversaw Blue Origin's supply chain, manufacturing apparatus and the company's vast network of facilities across the United States, as the company reaches the late stages of developing its next-generation New Glenn rocket.
>"Effective immediately," Smith's email said, the operations unit will split into a new manufacturing and supply chain operations organization and a facilities, maintenance and security team.

I hope this works

[Anonymous No.15814856]

>>15814851
Not surprising when you remember that they've been ruining Europe for decades.

[Anonymous No.15814858]

>>15814856
the USSR-like bureucratic bloat of the EU is starting to take its toll
or has already taken, but the effects are easier and easier to see

[Anonymous No.15814859]

>>15814855
wait, Bob Smith is still there?

[Anonymous No.15814861]

>>15814859
he is onboarding limp for like a month or two instead of leaving right away

[Anonymous No.15814869]

>>15814858
EU was just a poor attempt to prevent Europe from falling into irrelevancy, but this continent has been falling downhill since WW1. Moreover, nothing has been done to really improve the situation. Instead, we got rid of our industry and fallen for green scam.
This place has no future.

[Anonymous No.15814880]

>>15814851
We can't make a crew module
Just as patehtic as ewrope
https://www.reddit.com/r/ISRO/comments/17agwa2/there_is_no_capability_in_india_to_manufacture/

[Anonymous No.15814887]

>>15814851
Its not a joke, India worked hard for what they wanted. EU worked hard to rely on Russian modules and worked hard to try to discredit American.

[Anonymous No.15814899]

>>15814841
CSS is a hero really.

[Anonymous No.15814901]

Are there any close up shots of starship superheavy ignition like the engineering cameras for the shuttle/apollo?

[Anonymous No.15814907]

What the

[Anonymous No.15814918]

>>15814887
I'm not saying India is a joke, they are very clearly competent, I'm saying Europe space ventures are a joke
I wonder what the state of US space would be without SpaceX
ignoring Russia, I think the current ranking you could put different countries/regions space capabilities is
USA > China > India > Europe
but without SpaceX it might be
China > India > USA > Europe

[Anonymous No.15814939]

Next year, SpaceX aims to average one launch every 2.5 days
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/next-year-spacex-aims-to-average-one-launch-every-2-5-days/
> Earlier this week, SpaceX launched for the 75th time this year, continuing a flight cadence that should see the company come close to 100 missions by the end of December.
> SpaceX plans to kick its launch rate into a higher gear in 2024. This will be largely driven by launches of upgraded Starlink satellites with the ability to connect directly with consumer cell phones, a service SpaceX calls "Starlink Direct to Cell," a company official told Ars this week.
>The goal next year is 12 launches per month, for a total of 144 Falcon rocket flights. Like this year, most of those missions will be primarily devoted to launching Starlink broadband satellites. So far in 2023, more than 60 percent of SpaceX's launches have delivered the company's own Starlink satellites into orbit.
> "With our 2 million users, (we) need that constellation refreshed," the SpaceX official told Ars on background. "We're also going to look at direct to cell communications with Starlink, and that's a key feature that gets added next year with those 144 flights."
> "You can't increase that kind of number by just adding more bodies or extra shifts of work," the SpaceX official said. "You've got to fundamentally change the way you do business. You've got to fundamentally increase first pass yield, so there's less inspection needed later. The hardware is built more reliable from the get-go, so it's ready to go fly. It's forcing a ton of innovation into SpaceX that we would not do in any other way if we weren't driven by that flight rate."

[Anonymous No.15814944]

>>15814939
> "I see the fight rate can only occur if I can increase reliability, so that they're not competing entities," the SpaceX official said. "So we end up with actually a safer system, more reliable system to enable that flight rate. It's a really cool thing to be challenged to do that, and we're building all kinds of electronic processes and tools, techniques and ways to communicate within the company to actually make that a reality, to fly those 12 flights each month."
> But the big driver is Starlink. SpaceX is rolling out the direct-to-cell capability, which it says will allow Starlink satellites to connect with normal smartphones, initially with texting coverage. That will be available to users beginning in 2024, according to SpaceX, followed by voice and data services in 2025. SpaceX says the Starlink-for-phones service "works with existing LTE phones wherever you can see the sky. No changes to hardware, firmware, or special apps are required, providing seamless access to text, voice, and data."
> In 2022, when SpaceX and T-Mobile first announced the Starlink phone service, SpaceX founder Elon Musk suggested it would require much larger Starlink satellites that could only launch on the company's giant new Starship rocket. That rocket has taken longer to make operational than SpaceX expected, and Musk said earlier this month he expects Starship to be ready to carry Starlink satellites into orbit in roughly a year.
> SpaceX developed an intermediate Starlink spacecraft design—bigger than the original Starlink satellites but smaller than the ones that will go on Starship—with additional throughput capacity to fly on the company's workhorse Falcon 9 rocket. Now, a new iteration of Starlink satellites enabled for direct-to-cell communications will also start flying on Falcon 9 because Starship isn't ready.

[Anonymous No.15814950]

India tests launch escape system in step towards sending astronauts to orbit
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https://spacenews.com/india-tests-launch-escape-system-in-step-towards-sending-astronauts-to-orbit/
> HELSINKI — India took a step towards independent human spaceflight capabilities early Saturday with a successful uncrewed emergency escape system test.
> “I am very happy to announce the successful accomplishment of the TV-D1 mission,” S Somanath, ISRO chairman, said after the launch.
> India hopes to launch its Gaganyaan human spaceflight mission in 2025, following further tests. This includes three uncrewed orbital test flights of the Gaganyaan Crew Module starting in 2024.
> A successful crewed mission would see the nation join Russia, the United States and China as the only countries to have achieved independent human spaceflight capabilities. Astronauts are already in training for the mission.
> The Saturday test however follows a series of successes and policy shifts in 2023. India became the fourth country to soft-land on the moon on Aug. 23 with its Chandrayaan-3 mission. The successful launch of Aditya-L1, India’s first solar observatory, followed Sept. 2. The spacecraft is currently heading to Sun-Earth Lagrange point 1.
> India Prime Minister this week announced the target of 2040 to get astronauts onto the moon. It also plans a space station around 2035. The country also aims to make itself a space industry hub following reforms this year to allow greater space for commercial endeavors and foreign investment in the space sector.

[Anonymous No.15814951]

https://twitter.com/isro/status/1715603184172061125

[Anonymous No.15814952]

>>15814951

[Anonymous No.15814953]

>>15814952

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>>15814953

[Anonymous No.15814955]

>>15814907
I hate it when planets have visible UV seams

[Anonymous No.15814956]

>>15814954

[Anonymous No.15814958]

>>15814956
https://twitter.com/isro/status/1715646997431238774
> .... and the slow-motion video of the TV-D1 Lift-off. (No audio)

[Anonymous No.15814961]

>>15814958
https://twitter.com/isro/status/1715688266517680453

> The Crew Module in the safe hands of @indiannavy

[Anonymous No.15814962]

>>15814961

[Anonymous No.15814964]

>>15814962

[Anonymous No.15814965]

>>15814944
>12 flights each month
woah

[Anonymous No.15814982]

>>15814918
nah, even without spacex US has a handful of operational heavy lift vehicles and orion. We may be behind china but we sure as hell wouldn’t be behind india.

[Anonymous No.15814993]

>>15814939
>>15814944
This article is incorrect - SpaceX has launched 79 times this year including Falcon Heavy launches and 80 if you include IFT-1

[Anonymous No.15814998]

>>15814841
They keep mentioning the original 2014 agreement but are purposely obtuse about how it has since been amended multiple times.

Completely dishonest shills.

[Anonymous No.15815006]

>>15814841
I dont get it. The css guy is a functional retard.

[Anonymous No.15815010]

>>15814841
he was shaking as he typed this

[Anonymous No.15815041]

South China Morning Post headline:
>Giant leap for China in moon race as SpaceX struggles to get its Starship rocket off the ground

Berger was right. The stars are aligning just right for the next space race.

[Anonymous No.15815048]

>>15815041
China is extremely strong

[Anonymous No.15815065]

>>15814958
Is that an official video? What's with that crazy title card?
>>15815041
What giant leap? That powerpoint presentation?

[Anonymous No.15815069]

>>15815065
its from the official isro twitter account so I would think so

[Anonymous No.15815070]

>>15815069
I guess some india intern thought it looked good.

[Anonymous No.15815076]

>>15814414
For anything longer than 6 or 7 hours I would pick a flight with Starlink even if it was a few hundred dollars more.

[Anonymous No.15815079]

>>15814423
Imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.15815083]

>>15815079
I'd rather not

[Anonymous No.15815089]

>>15814841
"Wow, thanks for pointing that out! I checked and it does indeed say you're a retarded faggot."

[Anonymous No.15815092]

https://twitter.com/narendramodi/status/1715754992399954120

[Anonymous No.15815094]

does someone know where I can find this NASA video is full resolution?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/r1G3xg0-9KA

[Anonymous No.15815099]

>>15814841
Someone should beat that guy up.

[Anonymous No.15815108]

>>15815094
file a freedom of information act request for the footage.

[Anonymous No.15815119]

>>15814841
The karl pilkington of basedjacks

[Anonymous No.15815133]

>>15815041
I just hope they keep putting out slide decks. Half of the greatest US engineering achievements were done to beat imagined capabilities of others. That competitive streak is still there.

>>15814855
Corporate restructuring is rarely a good thing, but Blorgin has so many parallel operations: Engines (several lines for several variants), vehicle R&D (new shepard and new glenn), lander R&D (whatever they're calling the lunar lander these days) and orbital tug R&D (blue ring). Are they still doing a crew capsule too? And they definitively back-burnered Orbital Reef.

[Anonymous No.15815138]

>>15815108
China has already downloaded it, not point in hiding it at this point

[Anonymous No.15815141]

>>15815133
SpaceX has: raptor engine development, lunar starship landing engine development, unmanned SS development, lunar SS development, Depot SS development

[Anonymous No.15815148]

The war criminal is spreading disinformation on X

[Anonymous No.15815149]

>>15815148
Did, did he think the LEM used solids?

[Anonymous No.15815153]

>>15815149
He probably meant liquid cryogenic propellants.

[Anonymous No.15815154]

>>15815149
>>15815148
his point is made incorrectly but its still kind of valid, all lunar landers have been pressure fed, which are low performance but have great reliability and can instantly be turned on/off. Landing on the moon with a turbopump will be something thats never been done before.

[Anonymous No.15815156]

>>15815154
HLS is using cold gas thrusters, though.

[Anonymous No.15815163]

>>15815156
It isn't. That was just concept work. Elon said they are just gonna use the Raptors.

[Anonymous No.15815164]

>>15815163
Elon says many things.

[Anonymous No.15815166]

>>15815156
As far as I know they haven't ruled out using a Raptor to land, they just aren't sure what impact it might have when HLS touches down. There's an upcoming Intuitive Machines lander that has an instrument on it to monitor what happens to the surface when its methalox engine plume hits it.

[Anonymous No.15815169]

>>15815166
They surely have after IFT-1.

[Anonymous No.15815189]

>>15814907
Would be neat if this was artificial

[Anonymous No.15815191]

>>15814492
I don't see a lot of diversity in that room. Where is the outrage?

[Anonymous No.15815192]

>>15815191
One of them is a Muslim. The thought keeps the others awake at night.

[Anonymous No.15815203]

>>15814841
This isn't how you talk to a rural sheriff.

[Anonymous No.15815207]

PLD Space calls first launch a success, POLARIS Spaceplanes Begins Testing MIRA Demonstrator, RFA, ATMOS, and Yuri Announce “Eva” Microgravity Service
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https://spacenews.com/pld-space-calls-first-launch-a-success/
> “On our side, we conclude the launch was a success,” Raúl Torres, PLD Space chief executive and launch director, said through an interpreter at the briefing. The actual trajectory of the rocket, he said, closely followed the expected trajectory.
> There had been some confusion at the time of the launch about that trajectory. The company had previously stated, including in a press kit distributed days before the launch, that Miura 1would fly to a peak altitude of 80 kilometers. The rocket, though, flew to only 46 kilometers.
---
https://europeanspaceflight.com/polaris-spaceplanes-begins-testing-mira-demonstrator/
> Bremen-based startup POLARIS Spaceplanes announced that it had completed the first roll tests of its MIRA demonstrator.
> MIRA is a 4.3-metre demonstrator that features a fiber-reinforced shell, four kerosene-fed turbine engines, and one aerospike rocket engine. The 210-kilogram vehicle is a subscale prototype of the company’s AURORA vehicle, which will be capable of delivering 1,000 kilograms to low Earth orbit with the aid of an expendable upper stage.
---
https://europeanspaceflight.com/rfa-atmos-and-yuri-announce-eva-microgravity-service/
> German space companies Rocket Factory Augsburg, Yuri, and ATMOS Space Cargo have announced a new partnership to launch an end-to-end service for microgravity research.
> RFA will be responsible for the service’s low-cost launch services.
> ATMOS will contribute its Phoenix return capsule that will host scientific, experimental, or demonstration payloads.
> Finally, Yuri will provide its ScienceTaxi life science bioreactor and incubator facilities, which provide temperature control, full automation, and real-time data collection.

[Anonymous No.15815232]

>>15814962
Why is there so little diversity?

[Anonymous No.15815234]

>>15815232
What do you mean? They're all diverse.

[Anonymous No.15815240]

>>15815191
>>15815232
Check their religion caste etc.
Racism based on skin color is primitive
Racism based on ideology is divine

[Anonymous No.15815243]

>>15815232
India has 23 official languages, 100+ different languages, 20,000 different dialects, 2000 different ethnicities.

So chances are, the picture contains more diversity than you can tell

[Anonymous No.15815267]

>>15815243
image contains 1 skin color, 1 religion, 1 caste, 1 language

[Anonymous No.15815269]

>>15815267
They all look the same to me too anon but we're not supposed to say it out loud

[Anonymous No.15815282]

What is the difference between normal and flight-like startup?

[Anonymous No.15815287]

>>15815282
propellant in the tank during flight is a bit discombobulated.

[Anonymous No.15815296]

>>15815282
Low level of propellant.

[Anonymous No.15815303]

>>15813822
>MSR is kill
Good, dumb meme of a mission campaign

[Anonymous No.15815358]

>>15815232
>Why is there so little diversity?
Because they don't want it.

[Anonymous No.15815364]

>>15814918
Russia goes between China and India, they already have crew launch, and fly unmanned missions more often than India still.
SpaceX > China > Russia > US without SpaceX > India > Japan > *all of europe*

[Anonymous No.15815365]

https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1715807461322494144

Record breaking 18.4 ton payload (Starlink v2 mini) on Falcon 9 will launch later today

[Anonymous No.15815376]

>>15815006
>functional retard
Not really, once you realize CSS stands for Common Stock Shorter. Anything to cause delays and potentially hurt since he's lost shitloads on shorting Tesla.

[Anonymous No.15815390]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1715761698441986444

[Anonymous No.15815392]

>>15815376
he has said he is short Tesla at some point?

[Anonymous No.15815398]

>>15815392
Oh please, it's pretty obvious that he's been running a FUD operation for years. He follows tslaq shit as well.

[Anonymous No.15815399]

>>15815398
lots of people in that sphere that don't actually short because its so risky even if they think Tesla is a fraud and so on

[Anonymous No.15815400]

>>15815399
You do know what tslaq is, right?

[Anonymous No.15815403]

>>15815400
Biden's chief campaigner, Jim Chanos, is a TSLAQ member

[Anonymous No.15815406]

>>15815403
Food for thought, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.15815421]

>>15815400
yes, what I said stands

[Anonymous No.15815441]

>>15815364
although honestly I'm not sure US minus SpaceX is actually ahead of ISRO at this point:
>Delta IV retired
>Atlas V no longer selling launches
>No starliner, no NASA astronauts to ISS without Soyuz
>Antares 200 ded because of ukraine/russia bullshit (no more RD-181s) which means no Cygnus, NASA also 100% reliant on russia for ISS resupply too
>SLS/Orion is giga retarded and can only launch once every other year, no ISS service, no lander without SpaceX
>Vulcan LMAO
>Below Orbit
yeah; I think the US without SpaceX is at worst tied with India, but not behind. should have used an equals sign
>SpaceX >>>>> China >> Russia > US without SpaceX = India > Japan > *all of europe* = other random countries (israel, iran, NK&SK)

[Anonymous No.15815471]

>>15815441
The funny thing is most of SpaceX's launches would still stay on American launch vehicles.

Without rideshares the small launch providers would have a lot more meat on the table.

[Anonymous No.15815480]

>>15815365
Are they expending the core? I thought droneship config is like 17 T max

[Anonymous No.15815481]

>>15815480
>expending
Nope. Thats why its a record breaking, reusable launch.

[Anonymous No.15815494]

>>15815471
>Without rideshares the small launch providers would have a lot more meat on the table.
When your business plan would only be viable with greater product and market inefficiency, you don't have a good business plan.

[Anonymous No.15815503]

>>15815494
Which is why SpaceX is drinking their milkshake, but the context here was a world where SpaceX didn't exist.

[Anonymous No.15815538]

>>15815365
Jesas, the cutoff for heavy lift is 20t isn't it?

[Anonymous No.15815540]

>Need to use my vacation time before year end
>Want to drive to Boca Chica but FWS troons keep the launch time in the air

Wagie cagie ragey

[Anonymous No.15815542]

>>15815480
>>15815481
IIRC they're using the short nozzle for the upper stage to trade a bit of higher-orbit performance to raw mass to LEO for some Starlink launches now.

[Anonymous No.15815543]

>>15815538
yeah

> A heavy-lift launch vehicle is an orbital launch vehicle capable of generating a large amount of lift to reach its intended orbit. Heavy-lift launch vehicles generally are capable of lifting payloads between 20,000 to 50,000 kg (44,000 to 110,000 lb) (by NASA classification) or between 20,000 to 100,000 kilograms (44,000 to 220,000 lb) (by Russian classification)[1] into low Earth orbit (LEO).[2] As of 2023, operational heavy-lift launch vehicles include the Long March 5, the Proton-M and the Delta IV Heavy.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy-lift_launch_vehicle

[Anonymous No.15815552]

>>15815543
According to Nasa (in tonnes/1000kg):
Small-lift 0 - 2
Medium 2 - 20
Heavy 20 - 50
Super-Heavy > 50

https://web.archive.org/web/20230718230006/https://www.nasa.gov/pdf/500393main_TA01-LaunchPropulsion-DRAFT-Nov2010-A.pdf

[Anonymous No.15815598]

>>15815364
Russia goes into the frontrunner of first to lose access to space all together category. Those ancient soviet space ladas can only take them so far before their retarded monkey asses run out of that gravy train too

Most weakest of all of them, by far. Whats left of their roskosmos will be gobbeled up by chinks as they solidify as the changs vassal extension

[Anonymous No.15815605]

>>15815552
When does it become giga-heavy?
100 tons?

[Anonymous No.15815607]

>>15815598
Haven't you heard? The new current thing is the war in Gaza, Ukraine and anti-Russian virtue signaling is out of style.

[Anonymous No.15815616]

>>15815598
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine managed to hit Plesetsk with drones.

[Anonymous No.15815622]

>>15815605
these classifications are quite arbitrary

[Anonymous No.15815630]

>>15815552
ton (masculine form) = 2000lbs
tonnes (feminine form) = 1000kg

more evidence that metric is for effeminate homosexuals

[Anonymous No.15815632]

>>15815616
Ukraine not getting any more free gibs now, sorry no more drones, greatest ally is under attack and it's going to be another holocaust if they don't get those drones.

[Anonymous No.15815634]

>>15814017
This is an interesting question. If they kill all the fish and wildlife then the fish and wildlife commission will no longer have jurisdiction. Even better, they could completely destroy the wetlands and then the feds can't do anything.

[Anonymous No.15815646]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TydGU2RI8o

[Anonymous No.15815667]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1715867608086348024

[Anonymous No.15815668]

>>15815667
The PMCs are only a phone call away, Elon.

[Anonymous No.15815675]

>>15815667
Vote Trump, then, Elon.

[Anonymous No.15815682]

>>15815667
Just support Texas secessionist rebels Elon

[Anonymous No.15815694]

>>15815041
>Giant leap for China in moon race
>as SpaceX struggles to get its Starship rocket off the ground
Ah yes, the Bezos school of defining success.
Also
>It's afraid!

[Anonymous No.15815708]

>>15815694
China hasn't even launched step one of the moonshot unless you count their space station as step one

[Anonymous No.15815713]

>>15815634
Good idea.

[Anonymous No.15815720]

Am I the only one who thinks it doesn't make any sense ti developed thr superheavy booster? They already have ever falcon 9 and alrwsy know hoe too strap them together. I propose strapping 9 together in a 3x3 grid and calling it the falcon 9000. it will ha e enough thrust to lift starship and as a bonus it has a wider cross section so will slow down more effectively on landing.

[Anonymous No.15815724]

>>15815552
>SLS brainlet wojak wearing a "Big Boy" shirt.jpg

[Anonymous No.15815725]

>>15815720
Bigger.

[Anonymous No.15815728]

>>15815720
full rapid reusability for massively lowered cost of mass to orbit
Starship being a superheavy vehicle is a consequence of full and rapid reusability, not an explicit design goal
though I guess a somewhat larger vehicle is better for sending stuff to mars even if you could probably have a similarly fully reusable system but a bit smaller

[Anonymous No.15815732]

>>15815667
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1715887428072804474

[Anonymous No.15815734]

>>15815728
Imagine being able to deliver a fueled up fullstack to orbit. Think of the possibilities. What's it take to break out of Sol's orbit into the interstellar medium?

[Anonymous No.15815736]

>>15815725
why did spacex move away form this design with the fins doubling as landing legs?

[Anonymous No.15815739]

>>15815736
"Too heavy" I guess, though having to create an entire stage 0 to catch Starship seems like a harder problem to solve than just taking the mass hit of legs/fins.

[Anonymous No.15815749]

>>15815734
that is retarded
depots and refilling where its at and that could have happened a long time ago if it didn't threaten job programme rockets

[Anonymous No.15815760]

>>15815739
probably more difficult, but it will increase cadence dramatically as well and increase mass to orbit
and I think they have already demonstrated the required accuracy with the drone landings
the platform is already moving in the waves which has to be taken into account and SpaceX has made the landings completely routine
on top of this, if I remember correctly it should be easier to land with the superheavy booster and Starship (don't know about the bellyflop manuever though) due to SH and Starship able to hover instead of just doing a suicide burn like F9

[Anonymous No.15815762]

>>15815749
>that is retarded
No I think depots are good, mister senator

[Anonymous No.15815765]

>>15815365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9vq6unjnYw

30min until stream start with recordbreaking payload mass

[Anonymous No.15815767]

60 starlink v1

[Anonymous No.15815769]

18.4 tons is a LOT. for reference, the heaviest payload shuttle ever launched was 22t

[Anonymous No.15815771]

>>15815765
>A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket is set to lift the next batch of 23 Starlink v2 Mini satellites

[Anonymous No.15815774]

60 starlink v1.0

[Anonymous No.15815775]

stack of 21 starlink v2.0 minis

[Anonymous No.15815804]

>>15815734
You don't need SuperStarship for that. Heck, if you're willing to limit yourself to something like Pioneer 10 all you need is a Atlas-Centaur/Star-37.

You can also fit a Castor 30XL into a standard-sized Falcon payload fairing with room for a New Horizion sized probe on top. A Falcon Heavy can loft that stack into orbit without needing to expend any parts and it'll have enough delta-v to hit solar escape velocity without needing to slingshot Jupiter.

[Anonymous No.15815808]

>>15815804
>A Falcon Heavy can loft that stack into orbit without needing to expend any parts and it'll have enough delta-v to hit solar escape velocity without needing to slingshot Jupiter.

[Anonymous No.15815821]

>>15815765
t-30 to launch

[Anonymous No.15815841]

>SpaceX showing this on Twitter instead of Youtube
those fucking bozos, I can't easily stream Twitter crap on my TV

[Anonymous No.15815844]

>>15815841
https://youtu.be/4yNsjqKaT-o

[Anonymous No.15815850]

damnit I cleared my cache to try and get past youtube ad blocker detection and lost the password to my burner X account so now I have to make another if I want to watch spacex launches.
why does 2023 internet have to suck so much shit

[Anonymous No.15815853]

Wow, just like that

[Anonymous No.15815854]

he got away with it again

[Anonymous No.15815855]

Overall, it was a pretty good launch. I'm going to give it a 5/5.

[Anonymous No.15815860]

>>15815844
Not well versed in jap speak, but is she unironically using the word kino for the landing?

[Anonymous No.15815869]

80th successful launch of the year

[Anonymous No.15815875]

>>15815844
Max Qute

[Anonymous No.15815879]

>>15815860
kino昨日 means yesterday

[Anonymous No.15815881]

>>15815879(me)
OMG I can post
I've been in Japan for a month and this is the first IP I've found that isn't rangebanned on /sci/

[Anonymous No.15815887]

>>15815881
grats, sup jpbro

[Anonymous No.15815910]

>>15815887
I wanted to go Tanegashima to see the space center but the ferry cost 100$ and takes 3 hours each way, and then on the island you still need to drive an hour to get to the space center so I would need to rent a car, not really feasible unfortunately
Great trip aside from that

[Anonymous No.15815916]

>>15815760
The catch is more efficient long term, and maybe makes the initial booster development simpler hardware wise. Code has to be more complex, but lose the legs. Still need fins. Wonder if legs will be added later in a g2g transport mode like the DOD wants, and to access more space ports. How far can the booster hop without StarShip?

[Anonymous No.15815921]

>>15815542
Shaving the nozzle shows just how far SpaceX is willing to optimize and the benefits of in house production. Imagine the congessional catastrophe if Montana brazing supply store got a little less of coat tail budget bill.

[Anonymous No.15815931]

>>15814964
Any mention on how close to flight hardware this test capsule is?

[Anonymous No.15815932]

>india is 80 years behind the americans and soviets
its crazy like what are you even doing to be that far behind

[Anonymous No.15815938]

>>15815932
Alternatively consider that without the miracle of SpaceX, America would be on the same level as poojeets.

[Anonymous No.15815948]

>>15814880
>>15815931
Despite reddit a good read on ISRO abilities hidden in comments.
Found this too
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=1781&v=74Q1qwWKzFQ&feature=youtu.be

[Anonymous No.15815950]

>>15815948
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/isro-somanath-interview-gaganyaan/article67427099.ece

[Anonymous No.15815952]

>>15815910
Too bad can try for Cape Canaveral next

[Anonymous No.15816121]

>>15815910
Stop blogging in /sfg/ fag nobody here cares.

[Anonymous No.15816125]

>>15814880
Kill yourself redditnegro

[Anonymous No.15816195]

>>15815910
Keep blogging in /sfg/ I care

[Anonymous No.15816251]

so fucking gone

[Anonymous No.15816261]

>>15815607
I'm kinda curious how it's virtue signalling when russia is quite clearly going down the shitter.

[Anonymous No.15816263]

>>15815503
>a world where SpaceX didn't exist
is that gonna be the plot for the future reboot of 'For all Mankind'

[Anonymous No.15816265]

>>15815769
was that the orbiter itself plus 7 fat astronauts and a cubesat?

[Anonymous No.15816268]

>>15816261
Russia is atronger than America right now. have you seen the price of oil? Russians play their cards close to their chest. they gave bigger plans than even America and will complete them before America just like the first cold War.

[Anonymous No.15816278]

>>15816261
Anti semite scum, us Jews are being HOLOCAUSTED by nazi Palestinians and you still talk about Ukraine???

[Anonymous No.15816286]

>>15816263
Such a plot would be too boring. Imagine making a TV series about the space industrial complex.

[Anonymous No.15816309]

>>15815607
Silly Vatnik. You think that Russia's ally attacking an US ally by proxy means you're forgotten.

[Anonymous No.15816315]

>>15816309
Go back to whatever shithole you came from

[Anonymous No.15816367]

WE GAAN
https://youtu.be/NlOg1tOMZzY

[Anonymous No.15816368]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlOg1tOMZzY

[Anonymous No.15816370]

>>15816368
Means nothing. We still haven't heard a single fucking word or even letter from their parasite agency.

[Anonymous No.15816400]

>>15816309
go back to the shithole you came from ( /k/ )

[Anonymous No.15816402]

NASA starts reassessment of Mars Sample Return architecture
---
https://spacenews.com/nasa-starts-reassessment-of-mars-sample-return-architecture/
> PASADENA, Calif. — NASA has started work to revise its approach to returning samples from Mars after an independent review concluded the current Mars Sample Return (MSR) architecture has an “unrealistic” budget and schedule.
> That independent review found a “near zero” probability that the next major elements of MSR, a sample retrieval lander and Earth return orbiter, would be ready for launch as currently planned in 2027 and 2028. It also estimated MSR costs to be in the range of $8 billion to $11 billion, far higher than previous NASA projections.
> The plan he outlined called for selecting two or three alternative architectures this fall for further study, which may include independent cost estimates. One the agency selects a new architecture, he said the goal is to get through a confirmation review by late 2024 where NASA makes formal cost and schedule commitments for the program. NASA had previously planned to hold a confirmation review for MSR this fall.
> The review of alternative architectures will focus on several figures of merit, including total and per-year costs, technical issues and the science value of the revised mission. One example he gave is looking at reducing the number of samples returned, allowing for a smaller Orbiting Sample (OS), the container that would house them. A smaller OS, he noted, could reduce cost and complexity for the overall architecture.
> “This is something that we should take very seriously,” he said of that recommendation. “It took a year and a half of discussion and debate to come to this recommendation. It was not achieved lightly, and it really does represent the view of the broad planetary science community of the importance of this project.”

[Anonymous No.15816403]

NASA starts reassessment of Mars Sample Return architecture
----
https://spacenews.com/nasa-starts-reassessment-of-mars-sample-return-architecture/
> PASADENA, Calif. — NASA has started work to revise its approach to returning samples from Mars after an independent review concluded the current Mars Sample Return (MSR) architecture has an “unrealistic” budget and schedule.
> That independent review found a “near zero” probability that the next major elements of MSR, a sample retrieval lander and Earth return orbiter, would be ready for launch as currently planned in 2027 and 2028. It also estimated MSR costs to be in the range of $8 billion to $11 billion, far higher than previous NASA projections.
> The plan he outlined called for selecting two or three alternative architectures this fall for further study, which may include independent cost estimates. One the agency selects a new architecture, he said the goal is to get through a confirmation review by late 2024 where NASA makes formal cost and schedule commitments for the program. NASA had previously planned to hold a confirmation review for MSR this fall.
> The review of alternative architectures will focus on several figures of merit, including total and per-year costs, technical issues and the science value of the revised mission. One example he gave is looking at reducing the number of samples returned, allowing for a smaller Orbiting Sample (OS), the container that would house them. A smaller OS, he noted, could reduce cost and complexity for the overall architecture.
> “This is something that we should take very seriously,” he said of that recommendation. “It took a year and a half of discussion and debate to come to this recommendation. It was not achieved lightly, and it really does represent the view of the broad planetary science community of the importance of this project.”

[Anonymous No.15816408]

Space Force sets sights on small geostationary communications satellites
The military also is interested in buying direct-to-cell satellite services
---
https://spacenews.com/space-force-sets-sights-on-small-geostationary-communications-satellites/
> WASHINGTON — The U.S. Space Force is exploring the use of small geosynchronous satellites to enhance military communications networks — either through purchased commercial services or government-owned constellations.
> Hopper said the Space Force is interested in procuring maneuverable small satellites that can deliver connectivity from geosynchronous Earth orbit.
> The Space Force is “seeking sources capable of supporting a Department of Defense effort launching and maintaining communications satellites that allow for greater maneuverability and smaller size than traditional geostationary satellites,” said the request.
> It is seeking small satellites “capable of maneuvering between International Telecommunication Union (ITU) assigned orbital slots in the GEO arc,” said the request. “Increased maneuverability utilizing decentralized and spatially dispersed small satellites is imperative for the future resilience of both the constellation and the communications support for users without impact to existing user equipment and gateways.”
> Hopper said the Space Force also plans to issue a request for information on so-called direct-to-device satellite services.
>This is an emerging segment of the satcom industry seeking to provide connectivity to cellphone users via satellites.
>Companies like AST SpaceMobile and Lynk Global are developing satellite constellations to provide direct-to-cell services. SpaceX has announced plans for a Starlink direct-to-device cell phone service, promising global coverage from “cell phone towers in space.”

[Anonymous No.15816418]

>>15816403
Everything around MSR is so fucking stupid and the fact that they're trying to rescue it is insane. At this point it feels like there's a 1% chance that they'll actually succeed, it's way more likely that they'll either give up in a few years or some big failure ends the program.

[Anonymous No.15816422]

When MSR does get cancelled, how are they going to explain away why they shitted out sample containers all across Mars?

[Anonymous No.15816424]

>>15816418
1.5 years to come up with an recommendation
lol
how often has it been tried to just give an organization or team money and then do whatever they want with it without committees and proposals and so on?
then of course stop giving money if the results suck, but more autonomy would at least speed things up like with companies

[Anonymous No.15816433]

>>15816422
What do you mean, they already explained that those are backups just in case they can't get to the samples that percy has. Having backup samples is one of the only things about MSR that is actually sensible.

[Anonymous No.15816460]

>>15816422
lightsaber lookin' ass

[Anonymous No.15816483]

>>15813871
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26270977
lurk moar

[Anonymous No.15816487]

>>15814266
I thought the HLS descent engines were located at the top

[Anonymous No.15816489]

>>15816487
That is in flux. Pretty much everyone assumed this because lmao minimal gravity, and it would also avoid all the FUD about regolith flying up and into the engine bell during landing and take off, but Musk said almost a year ago that they weren't going to do that and instead were going to use Raptors. I can only assume this might have something to do with streamlining the design to save on dev time. Otherwise I got no good idea why they would do this.

[Anonymous No.15816501]

[Anonymous No.15816511]

>>15816501
thank you for bringing this information to my attention

[Anonymous No.15816512]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1716089319239123046

What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.15816514]

>>15816501
>give up competition in this field
>it's a 1100kg civilian synthetic aperture radar satellite

[Anonymous No.15816518]

Presented in in-flight slideshow vision

[Anonymous No.15816527]

>>15816518
is that like 2 frames per second? lmao

[Anonymous No.15816536]

>>15816368
Throw rocks at these people while booing loudly anytime they appear.

[Anonymous No.15816544]

[Anonymous No.15816545]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwViHM-m_As

> SpaceX Full Stack Testing at Starbase - Starship 25 on Booster 9
> SpaceX is conducting tests on Starship 25 and Super Heavy Booster 9 at the orbital launch mount.

stream starts in 20 min

[Anonymous No.15816549]

>>15816545
The only thing they're testing is my patience

[Anonymous No.15816555]

>>15816518
They cant afford the bandwidth?

[Anonymous No.15816556]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1716103130960613847

[Anonymous No.15816561]

[Anonymous No.15816564]

>>15816556
why the fuck would he say that? has he not learnt since getting rinsed for 43 billion by twitter?

[Anonymous No.15816565]

>>15816561
Wtf is even happening here? Is the guy getting rescued?

[Anonymous No.15816566]

>>15816565
no you fucking itidot. are you retarded.

[Anonymous No.15816572]

>>15816564
he got rinsed because he signed legal documents
shitposting on X like this is not binding in any way

[Anonymous No.15816574]

>>15816545
When is destacking?

[Anonymous No.15816575]

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1715900370088612182

[Anonymous No.15816576]

>>15816489
due to the low gravity on the moon they can cut the engines some distance above the landing point and then drop to the surface for several meters. Renders show that HLS starship will have different landing legs from the typical design, and its my prediction that F9 derived legs with crush-cores will be used so that they can land at significant speed.
Takeoff will still be a problem, but I guess it doesnt matter if you dig a big crater on liftoff so long as you dont plan on landing there again. Also there is the fact that landing will be a suicide burn because even one raptor is too strong to hover in lunar gravity

[Anonymous No.15816581]

>>15816576
oh that is pretty good, crush cores for the first landings on a location, then make a pad there for later landings with non-crush core landers for ongoing operations

[Anonymous No.15816588]

15 launches until 2023 becomes the year with the most launches ever

[Anonymous No.15816593]

>>15816588
How many starlink launches are expected for the rest of the year?

[Anonymous No.15816596]

https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/22075/what-is-the-emergency-crush-core

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/878334920141135872

> Rocket is extra toasty and hit the deck hard (used almost all of the emergency crush core), but otherwise good
> Crush Core... How easily replaced?
> It's an aluminum honeycomb cartridge, so only a couple of hours to replace

[Anonymous No.15816601]

>>15816588
Falcon 9 only has a dozen or so launches before they break another record: 274 launches each for the Thor and old Atlas families. Then Falcon 9 will be the most launched American rocket family ever.

[Anonymous No.15816602]

>>15816596
>2017
Alpha Centauri oort cloud poster

[Anonymous No.15816628]

>>15816545
live after 1h delay

[Anonymous No.15816629]

>>15816628
not sure what kind of test its going to be yet
maybe WDR

[Anonymous No.15816631]

>>15816629
host said it isn't known either
could be WDR, cryotest, tanking test

[Anonymous No.15816633]

[Anonymous No.15816635]

[Anonymous No.15816638]

[Anonymous No.15816639]

tower venting

[Anonymous No.15816665]

>>15816286
I dunno, I think you could make a fairly entertaining version of "Halt and Catch Fire" or "Silicon Valley" with a bunch of Boeing/LockMart/JPL cretins slowly realizing shit sucks and they need to do their own thing

Hell you could do an entire version of "The Office" but instead it's ULA

[Anonymous No.15816668]

>>15816665
why not do that but with SpaceX existing? then you can also see what happens in their as they get competed out and humiliated
I don't think removing SpaceX makes those concepts any more interesting by itself

[Anonymous No.15816685]

Needs your help

>>>/x/36220204

[Anonymous No.15816688]

>>15816685
Don't bother me with this rubbish, but DO let me know if /mu/ needs help with multiplication again.

[Anonymous No.15816694]

>>15816685
to be fair, I am a retard and I don't understand how space elevators work.

[Anonymous No.15816699]

>>15816685
Nigga discovered shadow gravity https://briankoberlein.com/blog/gravitys-shadow/

[Anonymous No.15816700]

>>15813793
say what you will about gslv but at least it never did this

[Anonymous No.15816702]

they think it might be a wdr

[Anonymous No.15816704]

tower vent, if WDR happens the ship should get frosty

[Anonymous No.15816705]

[Anonymous No.15816719]

[Anonymous No.15816727]

>>15816700
when did this happen?

[Anonymous No.15816732]

>>15816727
July 2013

[Anonymous No.15816734]

>>15816727
If you're interested in how it came to happen, 3 out of 4 gyros responsible for measuring orientation were put in the wrong way. They're designed to only go in one way, but the person responsible used a rubber mallet to slam them in.
That is why you don't listen to Russia when they scream and shout about "muh female US astronauts drilled hole in ISS" when in reality they have fuck all QC and are borderline orks.

[Anonymous No.15816746]

a

[Anonymous No.15816760]

>detanking
it's over

[Anonymous No.15816781]

[Anonymous No.15816815]

>>15816781
Looks like one of the statues from Girls' Last Tour

[Anonymous No.15816817]

>>15816781
Spirit of Starship

[Anonymous No.15816854]

[Anonymous No.15816858]

When is Vulcan launching

[Anonymous No.15816859]

>>15816858
2028, vulcan heavy 2036

[Anonymous No.15816862]

>>15816746
Wont fly this year.

[Anonymous No.15816864]

>>15816862
Doomer

[Anonymous No.15816865]

>>15816862
https://twitter.com/MoonshotMuseum/status/1715088875226329520
Peregrine is getting prepped for shipment to SLC-41 so it can't be that far off. Still prob. Q1 2024, but I wouldn't completely rule out a December launch.

[Anonymous No.15816871]

>>15816864
Troomer (Truther)

[Anonymous No.15816872]

We are back

[Anonymous No.15816879]

>>15815538
no it's 50 tons

[Anonymous No.15816881]

>>15816815
This was my thought as well.

[Anonymous No.15816882]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGFj91wWLqI

[Anonymous No.15816884]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gNTr2wtqLs

[Anonymous No.15816888]

>>15816882
that hooker looks so retarded. its a bad look to have such low iq people championing elon. makes us all look dumb.

[Anonymous No.15816892]

>>15816888
good to have all kinds of people championing it if you want normies to support it

[Anonymous No.15816902]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go0s2ijV5fE

booba

[Anonymous No.15816908]

>>15816902
this place looks like the one where everyday astronaut filmed the first starship launch

[Anonymous No.15816912]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIrtASh14yk

lol there is still massive chunks on the beach

[Anonymous No.15816915]

>>15816912

[Anonymous No.15816917]

>>15816915

[Anonymous No.15816945]

>>15816912
unironically how can we stop musk? this is heartbreaking

[Anonymous No.15816967]

>>15816945
>>15816912
I wouldn't be surprised if SpaceX wasn't allowed to pick up those chunks because the area is under "investigation".

[Anonymous No.15816974]

A. somebody make a new thread
B. the rest of my post
>>15816967
it's a fucking sand flat jesus christ the only thing alive out there is maybe a crab or some microorganism that live in the sand, and they don't really give a fuck if you drop a concrete block on them

[Anonymous No.15816977]

what the fuck bros, SpaceX is polluting wildlife refuge again
someone has to stop them

[Anonymous No.15816979]

Is it possible to have greasy sex in microgravity?

And if not, whats the threshold of gravity needed to have natural sex?
It's amazing that NAS didnt ever research this. They had 7 astronauts per shuttle mission doing nonsensical bullshit. Are you telling me they couldn't hire a hooker and arrange a brothel on one of those flights?

[Anonymous No.15816987]

>>15816979
allegedly it's very difficult to achieve an erection in microgravity

[Anonymous No.15816989]

>>15816987
All astonauts are 30+ and probably require viagra in the bedroom anyway, it would be interesting seeing what happens if you fly people who are prime breeding age

[Anonymous No.15816997]

Staging

>>15816996
>>15816996
>>15816996

[Anonymous No.15817000]

>>15816989
>30+ and probably require viagra in the bedroom anyway
anon...

[Anonymous No.15817003]

>>15816989
anon please don't do this to me I can still fuck I'm still good you're just retarded

[Anonymous No.15817287]

>>15816987
I think it depends. The Jap said he could never get an erection in space, but while Scott Kelly never said he did (he was being interviewed I think on Good Morning America) he didn't say that he couldn't.

[Anonymous No.15817312]

>>15817287
men have cranked one out in space, so I think only some people can't get erections in space