/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.15787068]

Throwback edition

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[Anonymous No.15787082]

hop wen

[Anonymous No.15787091]

>>15787082
Really incredible how every time we hit the real genuine "two weeks" period it gets pushed back to multiple months
OFT-1 was the worst for this, B4S20 was stacked and there was hype for a launch within the month, and then the next entire fucking year happened. Even with 24/7 there were multiple instances of "everything is ready to go, launch in <14 days" and then immediate regulatory delay

The FWS is going to take all 135 of those days, and then they're going to get the extension and use all of that as well. The government simply cannot move fast enough for starship. Perhaps the government needs to be removed?

[Anonymous No.15787098]

>>15786835
People have already talked about this and unless a large majority of the asteroid completely misses earth or it's spread out over a very long time you're basically going to turn the atmosphere into an oven and cook everything on the surface. If you break it up you're not decreasing the amount of total energy added to the earth, just spreading it out over a larger area. You get less destruction from the impact, but pretty much the same (if not worse) atmospheric impact.

[Anonymous No.15787113]

>>15787091
I'm in favor

[Anonymous No.15787117]

>>15787098
asteroid impacts aren't real you dumb cunt. the entire idea of them being a threat was piggybacked onto the nuclear winter meme that was also a false narrative.
plase stop being so gullible and low iq, you're making the rest of us look retarded

[Anonymous No.15787119]

>>15787091
It's just part of doing business in the US. There's always some regulation you need to adhere to or some documentation to fill out. It got so bad that most companies hire people whose entire job is handling government paperwork. What's surprising is how little of this stuff actually gets anticipated by SpaceX. All this shit pops out of the woodwork because Elon announces "we're ready!" and legal has to remind him that there's someone he forgot to ask. Or several government agencies.

[Anonymous No.15787129]

>>15787117
seen any pterodactyls recently?
literal flat-earther tier schizo bs

[Anonymous No.15787137]

>>15787129
behold

[Anonymous No.15787141]

>>15787068
FTS Archive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=drive_link

And 12 new American envelopes from 1960-1992, all envelopes are First Day of Issue (FDI)
Also updated some bits and files, now stamp prices are included with envelopes and FDI envelopes are marked

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mfTItKVUP-PKlwUiCK13AWwRKkgsHWtn?usp=drive_link

[Anonymous No.15787153]

>>15787117
>asteroid impacts aren't real
>

>>15787119
I'm surprised Musk thought that he was going to be able to launch again at all this year after what happened in April.

[Anonymous No.15787168]

oh

[Anonymous No.15787171]

>>15787168
Huh, looks like we have about 2 years before OFT 2 :)

[Anonymous No.15787193]

>>15787129
dinos were extincted by the siberan traps mantle plume eruption.
there has never been an asteroid impact on this planet that caused any of the major extinctions and there won't ever be one in the future either

[Anonymous No.15787198]

>>15787168
History repeats itself

[Anonymous No.15787201]

>>15787193
meds now.

[Anonymous No.15787203]

>>15787193
Someone get the funnel

[Anonymous No.15787204]

>>15787193
>he doesn't know the difference between the siberian and deccan traps

[Anonymous No.15787212]

>>15787204
kek

[Anonymous No.15787220]

>>15787204
oh look at me I'm a trap expert

[Anonymous No.15787223]

Polite reminder: Dont feed the fucking trolls.

[Anonymous No.15787229]

>>15787068
Well, so much for Starship. Tory Bruno just fucking destroyed its usecase.
Our response, fellow Elon stans?

[Anonymous No.15787234]

>>15787153
Ok maybe they used to happen but they don't happen anymore.

[Anonymous No.15787236]

Just two more weeks

[Anonymous No.15787238]

>>15787229
kys

[Anonymous No.15787239]

>>15787137
Pterosaurs didn't evolve into birds you retard

[Anonymous No.15787245]

>>15787238
>>15787223
Did you not fucking read this post you stupid fuck?

[Anonymous No.15787246]

>>15787229
Starship Centaur

[Anonymous No.15787250]

>>15786758
We should do it like the Egyptians by worshipping anthropomorphic animals

[Anonymous No.15787251]

>>15787229
Put a Centaur V in Starship. There probably isn't a single use case where refueling the Centaur in orbit still makes sense.

[Anonymous No.15787254]

>>15787229
I guess tory just proved refueling in orbit is impossible. holy shit he's smart

[Anonymous No.15787255]

>>15787250
The only thing worth worshiping is the God that could create a universe as incomprehensibly vast as the one we see around us.

[Anonymous No.15787259]

>>15787250
The Egyptians did not worship anthropomorphic animals

[Anonymous No.15787263]

>>15787250
We should do it like the Egyptians and pull your brain out from your nostrils

[Anonymous No.15787264]

>>15787255
The cosmic serpent which first stirred in the waters of eternity and split itself into Amun and Apep, yes

[Anonymous No.15787266]

>>15787264
lol. lmao.

[Anonymous No.15787267]

>>15787220
Its not gay as long as balls aren't touching.

>>15787229
There's a reason why Tom Mueller wasn't enthusiastic about Starship and went off to start his own company.

>>15787254
Its not that orbital refueling is impossible, given that the Russians already do it on the ISS, but transferring hundreds of tons of propellant with starship's architecture may be impractical even if possible. Starship has the worst of both worlds when it comes to deep space missions in that its both an SHLV and that needs it multiple launches.

[Anonymous No.15787270]

>>15787267
>There's a reason why Tom Mueller wasn't enthusiastic about Starship and went off to start his own company.

Tom Mueller's case seems more like burnout. I don't think he wanted to do another round of the years that went into making the Merlin engine what it is.

[Anonymous No.15787278]

>>15787267
>Its not that orbital refueling is impossible, given that the Russians already do it on the ISS, but transferring hundreds of tons of propellant with starship's architecture may be impractical even if possible. Starship has the worst of both worlds when it comes to deep space missions in that its both an SHLV and that needs it multiple launches.

You've got a double-whammy of pessimistic assumptions on the difficulty of the unsolved parts and the classic cost-versus-scale problem in aerospace. It doesn't matter if Starship has to be launched a lot if it doesn't cost a lot to launch Starship.

[Anonymous No.15787289]

You guys psyched for Psyche?
Always nice to watch spacex slam another launch out of the park

[Anonymous No.15787301]

I haven't been here in a few months. Has Elon landed on Mars yet?

[Anonymous No.15787303]

>>15787289
It's arriving at Psyche in fucking 2029, probewatching is suffering

[Anonymous No.15787307]

>>15787270
Rocket engines take years to develop even if you're not trying to squeeze of second of performance out of them, if he was burned out wr/t long engine development times he wouldn't have bothered founded impulse.

>>15787278
>pessimistic assumptions on the difficulty of the unsolved parts
A difference in scale does become a difference of kind past a certain point. Fuel transfer to the ISS is less than 1 ton of hypergolics to the space station, not hundreds of tons of cryogenic fuels.
> It doesn't matter if Starship has to be launched a lot
It actually does, developing a reusable SHLV that flies rarely is not worth increase in upfront development costs because its going to take forever to get a return on investment.

>>15787303
I hate minimum-energy transfer orbits.

[Anonymous No.15787308]

>>15787301
yep
they're already driving their space teslas on the martian highways

[Anonymous No.15787322]

>>15787307
>It actually does, developing a reusable SHLV that flies rarely is not worth increase in upfront development costs because its going to take forever to get a return on investment.

This argument is based on the "right sized vehicle" fallacy. The economics of right-sizing a vehicle don't matter because it's as close to optimal for the payload size as possible, but because it's the cheapest path to putting the payload into space. If the rocket can put the payload into space and it's the cheapest option to get there, all other questions are irrelevant. Expect most early launches of Starship to fly near empty.

[Anonymous No.15787327]

>>15787278
>orbital refueling
kino

[Anonymous No.15787328]

>>15787322
Case in point pic related. Also that cubesat Falcon 9 launched that one time lmao.

[Anonymous No.15787337]

>>15787328
is Elon gonna do what he did for falcon heavy and use a vehicle for the dummy load? Wanna see a cybertruck in space.
Or would that be a faux pas?

[Anonymous No.15787344]

>>15787307
>its going to take forever to get a return on investment
I don't think Elon really cares
investors are always lined up to dump more money into SpaceX
Plus it's a big vanity project
Also it's first cargo missions will be dumping starlink sats into leo

[Anonymous No.15787346]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1709478694266302893

[Anonymous No.15787352]

>>15787337
I don't think he cares about what other think as a faux pas

[Anonymous No.15787357]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-2rjmL8MgY

[Anonymous No.15787360]

>>15787357

[Anonymous No.15787363]

>>15787344
>investors are always lined up to dump more money into SpaceX
Well that's actually what I think may be a problem, if SpaceX funding boils down to keeping investors on board they might be screwed if it starts to dry up.
>Also it's first cargo missions will be dumping starlink sats into leo
Given that starling revenues are lower than what they expected I don't think they want to lean on this. And if starship just becomes the means by which starlink v2 is made possible its going to be a rather niche launch vehicle.

[Anonymous No.15787364]

>>15787360

[Anonymous No.15787367]

>>15787363
Starlink is starting to generate cash, so they will get investors through that and soon might be completely self funding due to Starship

[Anonymous No.15787368]

>>15787068
This is the shittiest OP pic I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.15787374]

>>15787363
starshield (starlink for glowies) is gonna be raking in cash

[Anonymous No.15787376]

>>15787374
I don't doubt that SpaceX will be able to get government contracts but is dubious to assume they're getting paid enough.
But all of this is getting head of ourselves, starship is still an immature system and has a lot of development left to go through.

[Anonymous No.15787379]

>>15787364

[Anonymous No.15787381]

Hey, Amazon, is this a joke?

I thought you'd break the streak of classified 501 launches, but you noped so hard, you put even the NRO and USSF to shame!

At least NRO missions had placeholder models in STK, from generic satellites to a USSF comsat...and yes, even MRO

[Anonymous No.15787382]

https://www.marssociety.org/news/2023/10/02/help-wanted-scientists-engineers-to-enable-the-human-settlement-of-mars/

mars society is recruiting

[Anonymous No.15787385]

>>15787379

[Anonymous No.15787386]

>>15787385

[Anonymous No.15787388]

>>15787363
>Given that starling revenues are lower than what they expected
Do you have anything to back that up?

[Anonymous No.15787393]

>>15787376
>but is dubious to assume they're getting paid enough
Elon has been getting bankrolled by the government from the beginning. No reason for them to stop funding him now.

[Anonymous No.15787394]

>>15787386

[Anonymous No.15787396]

>>15787388
Musk's own words

[Anonymous No.15787399]

>>15787396
Which ones?

[Anonymous No.15787400]

>>15787394

[Anonymous No.15787402]

>>15787400

[Anonymous No.15787404]

>>15787399
These https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1581345747777179651#m

[Anonymous No.15787406]

>>15787402

[Anonymous No.15787407]

>>15787404
>nitter
b-but think of Elon's advertising money

[Anonymous No.15787411]

>>15787404
that was a year ago retard

[Anonymous No.15787413]

>>15787411
>>15787404
also didn't say starting revenues were lower than expected, of course it would lose money in the startup process
that is a given an obvious
you are such a retard man

[Anonymous No.15787421]

>>15787406
That's a Grove GMK 7550
nice ass crane

[Anonymous No.15787427]

>>15787229
27 tonnes direct GTO launch. Starship is LEO optimized and so big it still fucks vulcan up the ass even before considering refilling.

[Anonymous No.15787428]

>>15787364
I'm gonna say it
I like the cybertruck

[Anonymous No.15787431]

>>15787404
That's not saying revenues are lower than expected, it's just saying they're losing money, which is to be expected especially in the timeframe that tweet was written.
To throw a crumb your way even if you don't deserve it, Starlink's wikipedia page mentions some projections from 2017 of 30 billion in revenue by 2025, and it seems to not be on track to hit that. Those projections likely assumed a better timeline on Starship, however, and certainly couldn't predict the impact from wuflu. Given the exponential nature of Starlink's customer growth and Spacex's launch cadence, that prediction likely would have been roughly on-target if not for unforeseeable events.
tl;dr you're a fag

[Anonymous No.15787433]

>>15787346
Elon just can't stop taking credit for the work he forces those poor engineers to do!

[Anonymous No.15787440]

>>15787431
> 30 billion in revenue by 2025, and it seems to not be on track to hit that
Huh? It garnered 1.2 B in 2021 and 1.4B last year.

[Anonymous No.15787445]

>>15787440
can you read?

[Anonymous No.15787448]

>>15787404
>nitter user
>massive retard
checks out

[Anonymous No.15787449]

And this is why you don't waste your time on "skeptics"

[Anonymous No.15787460]

I heared SpaceX flew a booster for the 17th time, but the important thing is how much refurbishment did they do? Were those really all the same Merlins? Or did they do more thna just clean it

Either way I'm so excited every day about SpaceX. As a 6 year old I remember visiting a space museum and just assuming that humans must routinely survey the Moon and probably conducted the fist manned missions to mars at least 20 to 25 years ago with serious plans for colonization. I was livid finding out the truth. Then a decade ago I found SpaceX when they were testing the F9R, and after seieng Elon speak once, I knew he was the real deal. That was a fun time when people started making fun of SpaceX for putting legs on their boosters, then a few years later seeing them slam it into the barge over and over but getting close to sucess each time. Even in my early teens I was skeptical enough to expect falcon 9 to never fly the same booster more than 10 times when SpaceX was promising 100, but here we are.

[Anonymous No.15787468]

>>15787267
Just throw a kick stage in that bitch for >50 tons to GTO lol

[Anonymous No.15787494]

>>15787468
Or use it for some rather impressive C3 value interplanetary missions, especially if you refuel the second stage in orbit. We're overdue for massive, multi-ton space probes.

[Anonymous No.15787495]

>>15787236
sure

[Anonymous No.15787509]

>>15787346
Thank you elon :)

[Anonymous No.15787512]

>>15787404
Fuck off faggot

[Anonymous No.15787515]

feeling hot hot hot

[Anonymous No.15787520]

>>15787229
Personally I would listen to the real rocket engineer but hey, you do you

[Anonymous No.15787526]

It’s crunch time for companies building NASA’s commercial lunar landers
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/its-crunch-time-for-companies-building-nasas-commercial-lunar-landers/
> Big tests loom in the months ahead for NASA's lander fleet.
> Within a few months, NASA may celebrate the first successful landing of an American spacecraft on the Moon in more than 50 years. This would be an immense confidence boost for commercial startups with an eye on the nascent market for lunar missions. It would also signal to NASA that it can rely on commercial companies for foundational elements of the agency's Artemis program to return humans to the Moon.
> Five years after NASA started the Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) program, two companies finally have lunar landers ready for final launch preparations. Astrobotic's robotic Moon lander, Peregrine, has been in storage since March at the company's headquarters in Pittsburgh. This week, Intuitive Machines showed off its completed Nova-C lander to Ars in Houston.
> Both landers could ship to Cape Canaveral, Florida, within weeks as they prepare for launch windows later this year. Intuitive Machines is slated to launch first in mid-November on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket to start a roughly weeklong journey culminating in a landing near the Moon's south pole. Although it was ready to fly first, Astrobotic's launch date is more uncertain because of delays in United Launch Alliance's Vulcan rocket, the first of which will send Astrobotic's Peregrine lander toward the Moon. Right now, the earliest the Vulcan rocket could be ready to launch Astrobotic's lander is in December.
> However, while NASA provided billions of dollars in government funding to SpaceX, Boeing, and Northrop Grumman for development of crew and cargo spacecraft to support the ISS, the agency is only buying cargo delivery services from commercial vendors.

[Anonymous No.15787529]

>>15787229
>>15787520
>Tory Bruno
ULA is finished
Musk has their number

[Anonymous No.15787532]

>>15787526
> Intuitive Machines has won three task orders, and Astrobotic and Firefly Aerospace, headquartered in Central Texas, have each won two. Draper Laboratory and Masten Space Systems also received CLPS task orders from NASA, but Masten filed for bankruptcy last year, and that mission was canceled. NASA will move payloads assigned to the Masten lander to missions contracted to other companies.
>Aside from the program's scientific purpose, CLPS was established to provide business opportunities for startups that could grow into long-term partners for NASA's lunar ambitions. Some CLPS contractors are also working on other technologies, such as power generation, data relay, and rovers, that could become crucial capabilities to support longer-duration astronaut stays on the Moon's surface.
> Early in the CLPS program, Zurbuchen guessed the initial batches of CLPS lander missions might have a 50-50 chance of success. NASA officials watched intently as private ventures like the Israeli Beresheet lunar lander and the Hakuto-R lander from the Japanese company ispace crashed on the Moon. Those missions did not have any significant NASA involvement.
> The 14 companies in NASA's pool of CLPS providers include industry juggernauts like SpaceX, Lockheed Martin, and Blue Origin. But the winners of CLPS task orders so far have been smaller enterprises, with employee counts in the hundreds and not the thousands.

[Anonymous No.15787539]

Axiom Space partners with Prada on Artemis spacesuits, First Intuitive Machines lunar lander ready for launch,
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https://spacenews.com/axiom-space-partners-with-prada-on-artemis-spacesuits/
> WASHIINGTON — Axiom Space has selected an unconventional partner to assist in its development of spacesuits that will be worn by the next NASA astronauts to walk on the moon: Prada.
> Axiom Space and Prada, the Italian luxury fashion house, announced Oct. 4 they would collaborate on spacesuits Axiom is developing for use on Artemis missions, starting with Artemis 3 in 2025. Axiom Space will take advantage of Prada’s expertise in soft goods and other technologies to help with the suits.
> One question is what the suit will look like with that outer layer developed in partnership with Prada; the companies released only glimpses of the suit. The focus on the design of that outer layer, Bertelli said, will be on its functionality. “But there are areas where you feel there will be a bit of room for creativity,” he added.
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https://spacenews.com/first-intuitive-machines-lunar-lander-ready-for-launch/
> HOUSTON — Intuitive Machines’ first lunar lander is complete and ready to ship for a launch next month as executives say they’re cautiously optimistic about the prospects of a successful landing.
> “I feel really good,” said Crain. He noted the company paid close attention to failed landing attempts to see if their Nova-C design was also susceptible to similar failure modes. For example, the Beresheet lander suffered problems with its inertial measurement units (IMUs) during its descent. Crain said Nova-C has dissimilar redundant IMUs to avoid a scenario like that.

[Anonymous No.15787540]

>>15787246
>>15787251
imagine if US space companies all collaborated for the good of the country

[Anonymous No.15787541]

>>15787251
oh i just realized EUS has to go in the payload bay!

[Anonymous No.15787542]

>>15787539
>Prada
>Not Hugo Boss
nein

[Anonymous No.15787544]

Comtech wins $48 million U.S. Army contract for satellite modems, The Netherlands Will Be Signing The Artemis Accords
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https://spacenews.com/comtech-wins-48-million-u-s-army-contract-for-satellite-modems/
> The company will develop a satcom modem that can support multiple satellite communications networks
> WASHINGTON — The U.S. Army awarded Comtech Telecommunications a $48.6 million contract to develop a satellite modem that can connect to multiple networks, the company announced Oct. 3.
> The EDIM modems enable “digitized, hybrid satellite network architectures,” said Ken Peterman, president and CEO of Comtech. Military network users will be able to roam across different carriers so they can have a more resilient communications infrastructure, he said.
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https://nasawatch.com/artemis/the-netherlands-will-be-signing-the-artemis-accords/
> According to a Netherlands Government press release: “Minister Adriaansens also announces that the Netherlands will sign the so-called Artemis agreements. These international agreements were established by the United States to promote transparency and accountability among countries in the exploration and exploitation of the moon and other celestial bodies. It also involves sharing scientific data, granting rights for the use of natural resources in space and reducing space debris.”

[Anonymous No.15787546]

>>15787117
Aint that odd that all observable "impact craters" came at an 90° angle? Even on the moon...

[Anonymous No.15787549]

>>15787141
FTS stands for Finland Tranny Shitposter

[Anonymous No.15787552]

>>15787546
Scott actually did a good video about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCGWGJOUjHY

[Anonymous No.15787561]

>>15787546
They didn't, shallow angle impacts still make circular craters.

[Anonymous No.15787563]

>>15787546
Nah, all impact craters look like that, they have to come in REALLY shallow to display noticeable asymmetry. I think the number is like 20 degrees?

[Anonymous No.15787575]

only two more weeks

[Anonymous No.15787577]

On 26 October 2018, Avi Loeb and his postdoc Shmuel Bialy submitted a paper exploring the possibility of ʻOumuamua being an artificial thin solar sail accelerated by solar radiation pressure, in an effort to help explain the object's comet-like non-gravitational acceleration. Loeb wrote an article detailing six anomalous properties of ʻOumuamua that make it unusual, unlike any comets or asteroids seen before. A subsequent report on observations by the Spitzer Space Telescope set a tight limit on cometary outgassing of any carbon-based molecules and indicated that ʻOumuamua is at least ten times shinier than a typical comet.

[Anonymous No.15787584]

https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/1709525962730135938

[Anonymous No.15787588]

>>15787584

[Anonymous No.15787589]

>>15787575
Finally.

[Anonymous No.15787592]

>>15787588

[Anonymous No.15787594]

>>15787588
the clone

[Anonymous No.15787595]

https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/1709474414641754137

[Anonymous No.15787601]

>>15787595
there are 17 slides
first some generic engineering stuff about the station and its features, then a bit about the experiments done and a slide about cooperation with ESA

[Anonymous No.15787603]

>>15787601
https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/1709481793538125937

> Cooperation with ESA...

[Anonymous No.15787604]

>>15787549
You already know

[Anonymous No.15787607]

>>15787540
the result would be worse than it is now
collaboration means commitees means retarded compromises means slow as shit, expensive and just shit overall

[Anonymous No.15787611]

https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/1709528818459808245

> Oh. This CALT Mars crewed mission architecture study again.

[Anonymous No.15787613]

>>15787337
it's gonna be the tesla semi, or not a vehicle at all. 10 cybertrucks wouldn't even be enough mass

[Anonymous No.15787614]

>>15787613
The Roadster wasn't shit for mass for a falcon heavy either

[Anonymous No.15787616]

>>15787611
https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/1709530176084648108

[Anonymous No.15787619]

>>15787616

[Anonymous No.15787620]

>>15787595
I think this is the same?
these livestreams don't have any subinfo and comments are cutoff to make it even better

https://www.youtube.com/live/jiKeiGFZwig?si=BnsbZRMeW-JXAGJj&t=11038

[Anonymous No.15787623]

>>15787337
a boring machine and a semi

[Anonymous No.15787628]

>>15787623
lol that would be pretty funny but I don't think the boring company has a lot of TBMs built yet

[Anonymous No.15787631]

>>15787368
I've always thought that pic was shit.
The original has SOVL, but that boomjak shit is just awful.

[Anonymous No.15787637]

>>15787603
>>15787601
sanctions against ESA when?

[Anonymous No.15787641]

>>15787575
we're gonna make it bros

[Anonymous No.15787644]

>>15787460
Their flight-to-flight turnaround time is getting close to 1 month on average (fastest is now 3 weeks), and almost 2 weeks of that is JUST transportation time between barge landing, towing, harbor, moving to inspection and repair, then back to the pad. Doing all of NDT inspection, cleaning, replacement of consumables, and refurb/repair/swapping wear items in just a few weeks is a good indication that there isn't a huge list of items being outright replaced any more.
For example: the landing legs have one-time-use crush cores built into the struts to absorb landing impact if the booster comes in too hot, which means hard landings get x4 leg strut replacement. Most landings since 2020 have been smooth as silk, so those crumple structures get replaced less often.

I too was filled with anger when I learned the true nature of the space shuttle, but finding out congress was the most responsible has compressed and refined it into pure furious hatred

[Anonymous No.15787657]

>>15787644
Our government was not designed to do central economy shit, the capability for the central economy and the standing army are directly against the wishes of the founders

[Anonymous No.15787662]

so why haven't you built your own rover yet /sfg/?
https://github.com/nasa-jpl/open-source-rover

[Anonymous No.15787669]

>>15787662
>total cost ~$1600

[Anonymous No.15787672]

>>15787644
>and almost 2 weeks of that is JUST transportation time
hence the chopsticks, and Starship and booster landing on the launch pad

[Anonymous No.15787675]

>>15787669
its pretty cheap tbqh

[Barkun No.15787676]

>>15787675
Talk. Now.

[Anonymous No.15787688]

>>15787669

[Anonymous No.15787691]

>>15787688
he's literally me

[Anonymous No.15787693]

>>15787669
1.6 billion

[Barkun No.15787694]

>>15787691
He looks like a faggot who's blowing doesn't just involve candles. Clearly by the look on his face he's dreaming of cocks.

[Anonymous No.15787701]

> no bro you can't add some more water

https://twitter.com/FelixSchlang/status/1709554124394582187

[Anonymous No.15787702]

Kliper

[Anonymous No.15787704]

>>15787137
That's a stegosaurus

[Anonymous No.15787706]

>>15787259
Do you have a single shred of evidence?

[Anonymous No.15787707]

>>15787701
Is that after the recent rain? Looks swampy now. Are they still gonna bother SpaceX about adding few more gallons of water to the area?

[Anonymous No.15787711]

>>15787592
I don’t think we will ever see LM9 fly

[Anonymous No.15787712]

JUST LAUNCH IT

[Anonymous No.15787714]

>>15787694
I don't think he's the faggot here

[Anonymous No.15787715]

>>15787707
I'm pretty sure the main thing in the FWS consultation is about the water deluge system, so yes
135 max + they have the option to extend that

[Anonymous No.15787718]

[Anonymous No.15787719]

>>15787707
The problem isn't more water, it's the water they ship in having invasive shit that fucks up the ecosystem. ever heard of the spotted lanternfly?

[Anonymous No.15787722]

[Anonymous No.15787723]

>>15787068
Another day not leaving ball earth.

[Anonymous No.15787724]

>>15787718
retarded scifi artists should remember to keep the CoM in line with the main engines.

[Anonymous No.15787727]

>>15787719
thats bullshit

[Anonymous No.15787728]

>>15787724
fuck you

[Anonymous No.15787730]

>>15787727
I wish it was. The right species in the wrong place and really fuck shit up. Especially tiny shit like bacteria that can hang out in water.

I agree the huge delay is retarded, they could have been checking this shit the whole time. But the justification is a real thing.

[Anonymous No.15787732]

>>15787730
the water is from the nearby city, what invasive could there be in it? seriously what the fuck
this isn't some special water that is shipped from australia or the swiss alps
its fucking normal potable water from Brownsville

[Anonymous No.15787734]

>>15787732
>I agree the huge delay is retarded, they could have been checking this shit the whole time.

[Anonymous No.15787736]

>>15787734
my point is, do you actually have anything to back up the claim that it is to check for invasive species?
because this is the first time I'm hearing that

[Anonymous No.15787737]

>>15787068
Cancel MSR

[Anonymous No.15787743]

>>15787736
Its nonsense lmao

[Barkun No.15787745]

>>15787743
Spaceflight general regularly produces nonsense I agree anon

[Barkun No.15787747]

YOU THINK YOU TRAVEL TO SPACE USING MISSILES LOL

[Anonymous No.15787748]

https://www.axiomspace.com/news/prada-axiom-suit
> In the first groundbreaking partnership between an Italian luxury fashion house and a commercial space company, Axiom Space, industry leader and architect of the world’s first commercial space station, announces a collaboration with Prada on NASA's lunar spacesuits for the Artemis III mission.

[Anonymous No.15787752]

>>15787748
>not gucci
mid

[Anonymous No.15787753]

>>15787748
News release has some pics of the AxEMU, we only previously saw it in black and orange

[Anonymous No.15787755]

>>15787748
lunar prada store when

[Anonymous No.15787757]

>>15787737
honestly MSR has had me shivering some nights because of how scary it is, they must be batshit to take that fucking risk.

[Anonymous No.15787759]

>>15787757
qrd?

[Anonymous No.15787765]

>>15787428
I wish the nose was pointier but I get it, it's a truck, they have blunt noses. I just think it'd look cooler.

[Anonymous No.15787766]

>>15787759
its an extremely complicated series of steps to get vehicle into mars and send it back and the mission fails if any of them fail
10 billion down the drain (and 10 bil is the low estimate, if it doesn't get cancelled they will probably need more actually)

[Anonymous No.15787768]

>>15787766
eh it's just monopoly money at this point anyways
might as well spend it on mars instead of burning it on earth

[Anonymous No.15787769]

>>15787766
The ascent vehicle should go directly to Earth, instead of doing some gay capture.

[Anonymous No.15787771]

>>15787701

[Anonymous No.15787772]

>>15787771

>>15787769
I don't think it has the dV to do that

>>15787768
you could spend it on 10 different non-retarded missions instead
the choice is not between this retarded clusterfuck vs giving it to niggers
or SLS and no rockets at all
false dichotomy

[Anonymous No.15787773]

>>15787772

[Anonymous No.15787775]

>>15787773

[Anonymous No.15787776]

>>15787775

[Anonymous No.15787777]

>>15787776

[Anonymous No.15787780]

>>15787688
literally me but 22 instead of 20

[Anonymous No.15787782]

>>15787773
really drives home how much work went into making a marsh into a launchpad

[Anonymous No.15787789]

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

Vega and Falcon 9 launches today

[Anonymous No.15787796]

Exclusive interview with Tom Mueller, China to send new modules space station and co-orbiting Hubble-clone
---
https://www.space.com/tom-mueller-impulse-space-mira-spacecraft
> Impulse Space CEO Tom Mueller talks early days at SpaceX, moon bases and a booming space industry (exclusive)
> An exclusive interview with SpaceX's co-founding engineer whose new space logistics firm is shaking up the business.
> Space.com: When you departed SpaceX to form Impulse Space, what were your goals and visions for the company when you started out?
>Mueller: What I wanted to do was to make it easier to get everywhere else above LEO to these higher energy orbits. That's where we come in. Adding low-cost efficient propulsive spacecraft that can go to LEO on reusable launch vehicles and then go everywhere else in the inner solar system.
> When we start building things in LEO, people are going to realize pretty fast that it's 20 times easier energy-wise to get matter from the moon than it is from the surface of Earth. It will just be economically the right path to get it from the moon and from near-Earth object. Every metal that we know of is on the moon. So If you can build stuff in space, then go get those minerals from space. If it's needed and technology is being developed, it's just a matter of when.
> The first thing is we have a Mira spacecraft here that's complete that we're now shipping to Vandenberg and it flies on the Falcon 9 Transporter-9 mission in November.
---
https://spacenews.com/china-to-send-new-modules-and-co-orbiting-spacecraft-to-tiangong-space-station/
> China to send new modules and co-orbiting spacecraft to Tiangong space station
> Expansion hubs, new modules, inflatable habitats and more planned for China’s space station
> “We will build a 180 tons, six-module assembly in the future,” Zhang said. Tiangong currently has three modules, each with a mass of around 22 tons.

[Anonymous No.15787803]

>>15787789
can't wait for another Vega L

[Anonymous No.15787818]

Another day not leaving ball earth. Science golems on suicide watch.

[Anonymous No.15787819]

>>15787818
true.

[Anonymous No.15787828]

>>15787818
im just here to observe these guys. and its sad. like watching beetles in a hive.

[Anonymous No.15787838]

https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1709568859139629077

> Tesla Cybertruck was back at the SpaceX Orbital Launch Mount at Starbase this morning for more photos. Drone is hovering above the CT in this screenshot from @ NASASpaceflight live feed.

[Anonymous No.15787845]

Should Elon buy 4chan?

[Anonymous No.15787846]

>>15787838
are they actually advertising this? I thought Musk's general policy was that ads are shit.

[Anonymous No.15787851]

>>15787845
Why would Elon want to ruin 4chan?

[Anonymous No.15787852]

>>15787846
probably just for a photoshoot for the delivery event and website
Musk said that they will try ads like 6 months ago because some shareholders kept asking about it, but Tesla hasn't really done anything substantial
I think they advertise a bit in China but not really much outside of that, but there is a referral program that kind of works like a grassroots advertising campaign

[Anonymous No.15787853]

>>15787845
It'd be great to see him drive off all the bot traffic and tank the advertising revenue of the site, that'd genuinely make the place better but wouldn't be profitable comparatively.
Hiroshimoot does not care about anons, so long as the ad revenue flows. 90% of the site is bot traffic? Looks good, lots of interaction! Gotta sell that adspace!

[Anonymous No.15787855]

>>15787845
Yes

[Anonymous No.15787876]

>>15787845
The ADL would have him killed, plus think about how many fucking bootlicking newfags it would bring. Imagine /sfg/ being flooded by newfags and every time you dropped a post with the phrase “retard” “nigger” “I hate reddit” etc. you’d get like 20-30 (you)s saying you’ve been reported and that there’s no place for language like that. Oh and they would all be namefags with ‘4chan premium’ or whatever dumb shit Musk cooked up while on a bender

[Anonymous No.15787882]

>>15787876
>4chan premium
kek

[Anonymous No.15787888]

>>15787876
4chan premium lets you say nigger

[Anonymous No.15787906]

Altas V Kuiper broadcast ending after first stage separation kek

[Anonymous No.15787907]

>>15787796
Great short interview.

I wonder if Elon being a mentor to lots of people in SpaceX comes with bit of restraint and humility to know when you're wrong/learn to accept criticisms.

[Anonymous No.15787909]

>>15787882
Topkek

[Anonymous No.15787910]

>>15787882
>pass user since 2013

[Anonymous No.15787911]

>>15787876
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1709592361481777360

ADL now supports X.

[Anonymous No.15787914]

>>15787910
yep, bought this baby from m00t himself
(mostly use it so I can still use Clover)

[Anonymous No.15787917]

>>15787882
>>15787914
I'd buy a pass if I could pay with something other shit shitcoins. Poor brokies don't know the joy of being able to drop money to make your life slightly more comfortable without a second thought.

[Anonymous No.15787919]

>>15787911
Kys offtopic faggot

[Anonymous No.15787926]

>debunks elon
how do we cope elonsisters?...

[Anonymous No.15787936]

>>15787911
elon got enough of the right (((people))) to dispute it, so they backed off.

[Anonymous No.15787940]

why do people trust spacex when elon scams constantly. where is the cybertruck? where is solar roofing tiles? where is quick tesla battery swap?

[Anonymous No.15787941]

>>15787495
>actually listening to CSI Starbase
you do know he predicted no launches before 2024 right after IFT-1 right.

[Anonymous No.15787944]

hey negros. dont reply to bait posts

[Anonymous No.15787947]

>>15787940
i mean where is the tesla semi

[Anonymous No.15787949]

oh so any post criticising the saint elon musk is a bait post?

[Anonymous No.15787950]

>15787947
>op and his 10 replies incoming

[Anonymous No.15787954]

I'll post some cool space webms to heal this general

[Anonymous No.15787955]

>>15787954

[Anonymous No.15787957]

>>15787955

[Anonymous No.15787958]

[Anonymous No.15787960]

>>15787957

[Anonymous No.15787961]

>>15787960

[Anonymous No.15787964]

>>15787954
I want to ride the lawnchair balls to lunar orbit

[Anonymous No.15787966]

>>15787955
I think soichi is retired now :(

[Anonymous No.15787967]

>>15787964
This made me realize, looking back, gemeni's full depressurization EVAs were spooky as fuck.

[Anonymous No.15787969]

>>15787966
See ya space cowboy...

[Anonymous No.15787970]

[Anonymous No.15787974]

>>15787969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pcP1PS7yqM

Everyone should watch this, and his youtube stuff is good. I should go through it and make some webms.

[Anonymous No.15787977]

>>15787974

[Anonymous No.15787979]

>>15787970
excited for starship to bring back skylab sized modules

[Anonymous No.15787980]

>>15787974
>crew 1 was 2 years ago

[Anonymous No.15787981]

>>15787974
Ugh. He’s honestly one of the best. Certainly the coolest JAXA astronaut by a long shot

[Anonymous No.15787983]

[Anonymous No.15787986]

>>15787983

[Anonymous No.15787988]

>>15787986

[Anonymous No.15787990]

>>15787941
Has he literally predicted anything correctly kek

[Anonymous No.15787996]

>>15787988

[Anonymous No.15788000]

>>15787996
We made it bros

[Barkun No.15788010]

>>15788000
I kneel.

[Anonymous No.15788022]

>>15787986
I love the hardware vibe of the Lunar Module / pre-glass cockpit Shuttle orbiters. Really distinct “aerospace” look

[Anonymous No.15788031]

>>15788022
It really was a kino aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.15788032]

gravitics posted and then promptly deleted new renders of starmax. looks like it included heretofore unannounced 4 and 6 meter variants

[Anonymous No.15788044]

>>15788032
thread's back up
https://twitter.com/GraviticsInc/status/1709616252644413537

[Anonymous No.15788068]

>>15787766
Why the fuck did they do all the red side of this, surely it would have been easier to just have one rover collect a few samples around the landing site of the ascent vehicle?
>date unknown
jesus christ this is a shitshow.

[Anonymous No.15788102]

[Anonymous No.15788103]

>>15788044
I’m assuming the smallest one can fit Falcon 9 and the middle one is for New Glenn?

Some article came out earlier this year and said that BO and Gravitics were in talks together, but gravitics later denied that. I wonder if they could be a potential replacement to Sierra Space?

[Anonymous No.15788104]

[Anonymous No.15788107]

[Anonymous No.15788119]

Surely we will learn something new.

[Anonymous No.15788124]

>>15787119
At this point Elon just needs to start launching anyways and dare the government to punish its only functional launch provider.

[Anonymous No.15788134]

>>15788031
>>15788022
just sucks that we never built any space warships during that peak design kino window.

[Anonymous No.15788137]

knower here
very very bad friday

[Anonymous No.15788138]

>>15788119
>holy grail of rocketry
>order of magnitude

[Anonymous No.15788139]

>>15787577
>Avi Loeb
srrt

[Anonymous No.15788141]

>>15787954
post the ones with it exploding

[Anonymous No.15788156]

>>15787068
When is the next Starship test?

[Anonymous No.15788157]

>>15787623
>boring machine on course to 16 psyche

[Anonymous No.15788161]

>>15788102
>>15788104
>>15788107
source?

[Anonymous No.15788162]

>>15788137
???

[Anonymous No.15788169]

Always interesting to find a real space schizoposter.

[Anonymous No.15788171]

>>15788161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ20H8sHo9w

[Anonymous No.15788172]

>>15788156
Ask Fish and Wildlife on /out/.

[Anonymous No.15788174]

>>15788169(me)

[Anonymous No.15788176]

>>15788141
>14
That one must have been stashed in a closet some where and they just forgot about it

[Anonymous No.15788177]

>>15788174(me)
>>15788169

[Anonymous No.15788186]

>>15788134
>>15788107
>>15788104
>>15788102
>blatant fakes
Another day not leaving ball earth.

[Anonymous No.15788207]

>>15788156
NET February 2024

[Anonymous No.15788208]

>>15788162
It's just like that one monday that was really bad.

t. rememberer

[Anonymous No.15788210]

>>15788156
135+ days = 2024. They are intentionally delaying it

[Anonymous No.15788212]

>>15788210
They'll reply "meds" because they know you're right

[Anonymous No.15788213]

>>15788210
Meds

[Anonymous No.15788216]

>>15788210
I know you're right

[Anonymous No.15788220]

>>15788169
I would appreciate schizos a lot more if they weren't so fucking obtuse. You can't capitalize a bunch of letters, draw the most unintelligible diagrams possible, point at a bunch of vaguely related news articles and then expect anyone to understand what the hell you were talking about at the end. The only impression other people get is 'this guy needs meds'.

[Anonymous No.15788224]

>>15788220
We'll never see another schizo like the Time Cube guy again

[Anonymous No.15788231]

>>15788156
two weeks

[Anonymous No.15788245]

>>15788231
Two weeks

[Anonymous No.15788307]

>>15787947
coming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMKySYs-hCg

[Anonymous No.15788308]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C07LfBMmjDI

[Anonymous No.15788310]

>>15788044
falcon, nooglen, streuthship
>>15788220
Schizos have a brain problem where the circuit that makes them perceive the feeling of "hey this makes a lot of sense" is broken and responds oppositely to normal. The normally mundane and obvious is bizarre and unintelligible to them, while the utterly disconnected and discordant feels like puzzle pieces falling into place. It's like how gay men's brains are broken such that they are attracted to other men (a completely absurd mental state)

[Anonymous No.15788313]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ_a4NCIImk

[Anonymous No.15788329]

>>15788156
6 months

[Anonymous No.15788331]

>>15788044
> Gravitics modules offer endless possibilities in space with up to 400 cubic meters of usable volume—almost half of the ISS. [thread]

> Our modules are available in a variety of dimensions with a focus on 4, 6, and 8-meter diameters to accommodate launch vehicles flying today and the next generation launch vehicles of tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.15788335]

>>15788331
https://twitter.com/GraviticsInc/status/1709616255001620868

[Anonymous No.15788336]

>>15788335
>We proof-tested our 8 m pressure prototype to 26.6 PSIg. Watch the recap here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyI6-oY8bVA

https://twitter.com/GraviticsInc/status/1709616257400795266

[Anonymous No.15788337]

>>15788336
> Along with flexible solar cells on the surface, Space Armor contains layers of Kevlar, high density polyethylene, and aluminum. Learn more about testing and validation of our Space Armor here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_vA81o73hE

> Gravitics’ thrusters use gaseous methane and gaseous oxygen as propellants. These non-toxic propellants enable safe handling and long-term storage in space, extending mission life and reducing the need for on-orbit refilling.

[Anonymous No.15788339]

>>15788337
>Each of our gas-gas thrusters can provide as much as 445 N (100 lbf), or as little as 4 N (1 lbf). They are exceptionally versatile, providing orbit raising & deorbit capabilities, attitude control, and precision maneuvers for rendezvous & proximity operations.

> Gravitics is an aerospace manufacturing company. We provide the building blocks for next generation space platforms.

I think Gravitivs seems pretty serious? some said they are sus in a previous thread but they have hardware and have tested it

[Anonymous No.15788343]

>>15788339
https://twitter.com/smvllstvrs/status/1709631813411578331

Targeting first module for 2026
Is that slow or quick compared to the others? I don't remember the timelines off the top of my head
Vast and Axiom should both have something pretty soon? I have no idea about Nanoracks

[Anonymous No.15788344]

>>15788156
It will never fly again.

[Anonymous No.15788348]

>>15787068
Throwback

[Anonymous No.15788356]

>>15787949
yes

[Anonymous No.15788357]

>>15788343
vast is august 2025, I think axiom is also some time in 2025

[Anonymous No.15788359]

https://twitter.com/SpaceRef/status/1709661897597796431

Northrup Grumman joins Voyager Space for the Starlab station

[Anonymous No.15788365]

I wonder if all of these modules are going to be connectable to each other? a massive amalgamation of 5 different companies modules would be kind of funny

[Anonymous No.15788369]

>>15787719
Ecosystems change and do not exist as static, isolated things. No particular configuration is the "right" one or has any inherent value greater than any other configuration. A desert is not "worse" than a swamp or a jungle.

[Anonymous No.15788371]

>>15788068
because that is how they get multiple 10 year long missions and keep the funding flowing and this isn't even that much of an exaggeration

[Anonymous No.15788372]

>>15788357
Vast is planning to be very first, so Axiom HAS to be after, I thought they were very early 2026

[Anonymous No.15788375]

[Anonymous No.15788376]

>>15788365
Wont happen. Too much risk with one company causing chaos to the entire station. Its better that 1 company/org manage a smooth/simple transition of connections.

[Anonymous No.15788379]

>>15788103
Fairing diameters (according to quick google search)
Starship: 9m
New Glenn: 7m
Falcon 9: 5.2m
So 8m, 6m and 4m would fit those pretty nicely

[Anonymous No.15788380]

>>15788379
Starship has 1000 cubic km of space

[Anonymous No.15788382]

>>15788380
oh yeah Starship itself is an option to be a station just by itself, but will spacex bother if there are already a lot of players in the area?
I guess they have to make a quasi-station anyway for the mars trip, so it wouldn't be that much extra dev time

[Anonymous No.15788386]

>>15788380
Off by a factor of a thousand there bud. Just 1 cubic km

[Anonymous No.15788387]

>>15788382
>will spacex bother?
Yes. Its not an optional thing for them because they're already doing Mars/Moon long term life support system anyway. So SpaceX might not only have 1 system, but also have multiple Starships in orbit offering various independent stations that people/companies/organizations can rent out on a yearly basis

[Anonymous No.15788390]

>>15788382
I feel like a lot of people don’t know either of these facts so it’s worth repeating:
a) they got shit on during the CLD bidding. Supposedly NASA was upset that SpaceX’s design was almost literally just an HLS starship. NASA was looking for something with lots of docking ports, and lots of vague “modular exterior” surfaces to add more solar panels/radiators/external experiments to

b) Supposedly SpaceX is still internally very interested in utilizing the Starship platform as a space station and are actively working on it

[Anonymous No.15788395]

>>15787846
Ads have been pointless until now because Tesla is the only game in town with (good) EVs.
Marketing also adds like $600 to each vehicle in costs, if you do them at the scale of the big car companies for reference.

Tesla only does ads in China because that’s an actually competitive market.
They’re going to do ads maybe for Europe since they are getting invaded by Chinese EVs, but I doubt he’ll be doing any ads in NA until the market gets serious there.

There’s a very real potential he will do ads for self driving, because the take rate on FSD is only about 12%, which means consumers aren’t confident in it yet.
An ad campaign would boost confidence.
That campaign would just as much target existing Tesla owners as much as it would target newcomers.

[Anonymous No.15788397]

>>15787303
How capable will Starship be of delivering probes in direct trajectories? I hope it does well and cheap because I'm fucking tired of decade long gravity assists.

[Anonymous No.15788412]

>>15788395
>There’s a very real potential he will do ads for self driving, because the take rate on FSD is only about 12%, which means consumers aren’t confident in it yet.

Well yeah it's expensive as fuck and isn't fully self driving so why would you?...

[Anonymous No.15788423]

>>15787796
https://twitter.com/BellikOzan/status/1709646621716492795

[Anonymous No.15788443]

>>15788423
Public bathroom

[Anonymous No.15788447]

NASA is planning to build homes on the moon not just for astronauts who work but civilians as well. Also some Italian fashion is making a new spacesuit for nasa what is your thoughts anon

[Anonymous No.15788450]

>>15788447
I hope they design sexy skin tight EVA suits

[Anonymous No.15788458]

>>15788308
Starfactory advancing

[Anonymous No.15788472]

>>15788156
>wake up
>see this post with tons of (You)s
hmm I wonder what the replies are

[Anonymous No.15788475]

>>15788458
?

[Anonymous No.15788478]

>>15788313
4th spacecraft to crash on the moon during the last 5 years due to a software error
this was some new bus that the russians weren't used to, the previous luna landers did not use a common bus design like modern spacecraft do
Luna-25 crashed due to the IMU not starting up and the thrusters just burning until some pre-determined max time was reached, all the while waiting for the acceleration to change (put the IMU wasn't on)

[Anonymous No.15788482]

>>15788475

[Anonymous No.15788483]

>>15787766
Immensely complex and high risk

[Anonymous No.15788486]

>>15788447
I don't think they're making the spacesuit itself, but designing its outward appearance. NASA designed and built the xEMU in-house.

SpaceX contracted with a Hollywood costume designer to do its suits. NASA was apparently shamed into making the xEMU that they invented look good because it looks like last-century trash next to the SpaceX suit.

[Anonymous No.15788497]

>>15788486
The SpaceX suit isn't a space suit. How many times do we have to go through this.

[Anonymous No.15788500]

>>15788497
>Isn't a space suit
they claim it's vacuum capable
obviously it's not an EVA suit though and I don't think anyone is claiming that

[Anonymous No.15788502]

Leonov wore even less than the SpaceX suit on his spacewalk

[Anonymous No.15788505]

>>15787914
Kuroba works with the new captcha and is better than Clover

[Anonymous No.15788510]

>>15787990
All his predictions were correct at the time he made them

[Anonymous No.15788512]

>>15788505
>better than Clover
you can't convince me cheese or whoever the kuroba dev is

[Anonymous No.15788513]

>>15788478
>Fobos Grunt fails
>Comrades, we must design a new satellite bus to avoid this happening again!
>Luna-25 fails
quality Russian engineering

[Anonymous No.15788516]

>>15788510
name a single on

[Anonymous No.15788518]

>>15788516
It's not his fault that events changed unpredictability. Aside from that his predictions were accurate.

[Anonymous No.15788524]

>>15788502
Modern spacesuits are for pussies. Just tough it out.

[Anonymous No.15788527]

>>15788502
Leonov was built different

[Anonymous No.15788536]

>>15788502
just goes to show that space is not actually hard. send guys up there with a wetsuit, a scuba tank, and a warm winter coat. that should be more than enough.

[Anonymous No.15788539]

I want to learn something about astronomy and found these two positions:
NightWatch: A Practical Guide to Viewing the Universe
Astronomy: A Self-Teaching Guide

Are they worth reading?

[Anonymous No.15788540]

Japanese Isogrid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOI3DMXpCoE

[Anonymous No.15788543]

>>15788539
not spaceflight
astroonomers go away

[Anonymous No.15788548]

>>15788543
I don't want to interact with sciggers.

[Anonymous No.15788551]

Starlink in 2h, the Vega launch got delayed by 2 days apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR39ZmDRo3g

[Anonymous No.15788555]

>>15788539
Unironically go outside.

>>15788551
Starship in 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.15788557]

>>15788527
Gorby devoted his entire career to gaining political power all so he could sabotage the USSR and wreck it and he pulled the task off without a hitch, no surprise he left a lot of butthurt former servants of USSR state propaganda in his wake.

[Anonymous No.15788559]

>>15788551
>>15788555
Hullo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ_a4NCIImk

Starlink launch is iffy with this weather blowing in.

[Anonymous No.15788562]

>>15788551
Falcon 9 is practically to the point of having daily launches. How much longer before it exhausts all of the available cargo the people are willing to pay pennies per pound to put in orbit?

[Anonymous No.15788570]

>>15788536
I can't believe that space station 13 was the first piece of media to figure out that all you need for a spacewalk is a firefighters suit, a spaceblanket, some duct tape, and a dream.

[Anonymous No.15788571]

https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1709666115108864079
> Starlink kits found by Icasa and police at the IT-Lec's offices in South Africa.
> - Icasa and police visited IT-Lec's offices in South Africa and found Starlink kits. Starlink is not launched in the country, but over 3,000 South Africans have accessed it via IT-Lec and Starlink Mobility. The government stipulates local Starlink operations must have 30% ownership by historically disadvantaged individuals. It's a reminder that access to internet is still a major issue in many of the regions.

[Anonymous No.15788575]

>>15788571
> The government stipulates local Starlink operations must have 30% ownership by historically disadvantaged individuals.
Translation: gibsmedat

[Anonymous No.15788576]

>>15788571
They want SpaceX to give 30% of the company to South African blacks? LMAO

[Anonymous No.15788579]

>>15788562
never. induced demand.

[Anonymous No.15788586]

We're at how many commercial space station projects already?

[Anonymous No.15788589]

>>15788576
Not the whole company, just whatever staff are in SA have to be 30% apemen.

[Anonymous No.15788597]

>>15788586
Millions of people living and working in space!
(all but two of these companies will fail to put any actual hardware in orbit)

[Anonymous No.15788606]

>>15788571
How is that even possible? Starlink only operates in countries it is licensed to do so.

[Anonymous No.15788607]

>>15788597
>all but two of these companies
Optimistic I think, and even sending hardware in space does not mean it's a success, see Bigelow

[Anonymous No.15788609]

>>15788606
Starlinks dont have any official contacts but is working with countries that havent outright banned them

[Anonymous No.15788610]

>>15788607
Yeah…
I like how I was highballing it with just ‘two’ KEK, there really is no such thing as an “LEO economy” like NASA has been memeing about for two decades now

[Anonymous No.15788611]

[Anonymous No.15788612]

>>15788597
Vast and Gravitics from the looks of it, SpaceX if they get serious

[Anonymous No.15788617]

>>15788611
Wow… a whole chrysler minivan!

[Anonymous No.15788619]

>>15788612
SpaceX doesn't even have to get serious, just chop out the domes and pull the engines off, there's ur mog space station bro.

[Anonymous No.15788621]

>>15788423
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1709709746670866819

[Anonymous No.15788624]

>>15788611
Holy shit! I want that van!

[Anonymous No.15788627]

>>15788619
Apart from Starship being the only vehicle that could lift such a thing right now, what is a technical engineering reason as to why large wet workshop stations aren't a thing?

[Anonymous No.15788631]

>>15788627
They never were a thing.
>Skylab
wasn't a wet workshop.
Probably because they're too close to being a dep*t.

[Anonymous No.15788661]

>>15788631
>Skylab wasn't a wet workshop.
I know that, but it was almost one.

[Anonymous No.15788664]

Starship is a wet workshop

[Anonymous No.15788666]

>crashes due to untested software
tfw pajeet software written in Java surpasses russian "robustness".

[Anonymous No.15788695]

>>15788664
Apollo-Soyuz was a wet workshop

[Anonymous No.15788710]

McALLEN, Texas -- The Biden administration announced they waived 26 federal laws in South Texas to allow immediate Starship flight testing on Wednesday, marking the administration’s first use of a sweeping executive power employed often during the Trump presidency.

The Federal Aviation Administration posted the announcement on the U.S. Federal Registry with few details outlining Starbase construction in Cameron County, Texas, which is part of an emerging aerospace sector in the Rio Grande Valley, seeing “advanced launch operations.” According to government data, about 245,000 Boca Chica beetles have been recorded in this region during the current fiscal year.

“There is presently an acute and immediate need to conduct orbital flight testing of the Starship and Super Heavy launch vehicles in order to accelerate the advancement of United States' interests in outer space,” Polly Trotenberg, the acting administrator of the FAA, stated in the notice.

The Clean Air Act, Safe Drinking Water Act and Endangered Species Act were some of the federal laws waived by FAA to make way for Starship test launches that will use funds from a NASA manned lunar program. The waivers avoid time-consuming reviews and lawsuits challenging violation of environmental laws.

[Anonymous No.15788709]

OOK OOK WHERE BOOM SPACEMAN MAKE NOW OR AAAAAACK

[Anonymous No.15788713]

>>15788710
>source my ass
also looks like it was written by ai AND biden admin would never do that.

[Anonymous No.15788714]

>>15788710
>The Biden administration announced they waived 26 federal laws in South Texas to allow immediate Starship flight testing on Wednesday
WE GAAN

[Anonymous No.15788716]

>>15788710
if only
would be incredibly based

[Anonymous No.15788718]

>>15788714
Gullible. Just two more weeks anon!

[Anonymous No.15788725]

>>15788718
Can't a man dream?

[Anonymous No.15788754]

>>15788725
No dreams; only tears now.

[Anonymous No.15788761]

>>15787368
That's what you get when you let the thread sit on page 10 for an hour, faggot

[Anonymous No.15788797]

two weeks

[Anonymous No.15788807]

>>15788343
wtf how did he make those upside down Λs?

[Anonymous No.15788829]

>>15788575
He should turn it on anyway, accept payment in crypto to avoid crossborder capital controls, and tell the South African government to get fucked. Hell, he should do that planetwide. It would utterly neuter countries attempting to censor the Internet.

[Anonymous No.15788831]

>>15788518
We all know why he was wrong

[Anonymous No.15788833]

>>15788621
based work appreciator

[Anonymous No.15788835]

>>15788761
>C LI C K
it's true art

[Anonymous No.15788836]

orbital reef is gone, NG station is gone, all were left with is nanoracks, axiom, gravitics, vast and think. think is a meme, the technology to fully build a space station in orbit wont exist until after all the 'first commercial space station' money has dried up, and nanoracks focus is not on the space station but on their other active profit makers (guess why orbital reef died). the last three are fully focused space stations, so the question is which will keep funding until they can finally launch. vast is the only company with a bought out launch with an operational launch vehicle, and the rest are up in the air. i think only two or one will survive if that. we dont count spacex because they plan for just a pdr in 2028 so thats a LONG ways off.

[Anonymous No.15788837]

>>15788833
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_FvxGQNo0Y
Stream (might) go live in 30 min. So far there have been two delays due to high winds. Current T-0 is at 12:48 AM.

[Anonymous No.15788838]

>>15788837
why did you reply to that doe

[Anonymous No.15788840]

>>15788838
That's a good question.

Sometimes life is a mystery.

[Anonymous No.15788847]

>>15788836
Nanoracks, Axiom, and Gravitics were always the most realistic options. NG's bid was extremely silly, requiring legoing Italian hand milled aluminum pressure vessels together, and Orbital Reefer was always a joke.

[Anonymous No.15788862]

>>15788847
So youre discounting Vast why?

[Anonymous No.15788867]

>>15788829
>Enable Starlink everywhere
>Get Shanghai gigafactory seized, nationalised and no more Tesla sales to China

Good thing you aren't in charge.

[Anonymous No.15788870]

>>15788867
this general is filled with absolute retards who never think about what they type i swear.

[Anonymous No.15788872]

>>15788867
Uncensored Internet would destabilize the Chinese system anyway so the marginal cost is still zero.

[Anonymous No.15788873]

>>15788872
They already just VPN around the firewall, you're a fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.15788877]

>>15788872
what benefit does spacex have to gain from destabilizing the chinese system? destabilizing china will only make it so that the US has no reason to be competitive with nasa which means they get less missions and also less money just to *temporarily* turn on starlinks there only to have them blocked and probably attacked by the chinese who have major launch capabilities and are probably right now working on something to deorbit enemy satellites. pissing them off with starlink would only give them easy target practice

[Anonymous No.15788882]

>>15788872
>be chink with low enough IQ to not into VPN
>get access to Western Internet
>hmm, look at these western countries importing niggers looting, raping and shitting up their cities, no thanks, praise chairman

[Anonymous No.15788898]

holy shit is it room temp iq hour or what? some seriously brain damaged 'people' in here tonight.

[Anonymous No.15788909]

>>15788395
Just have a free tier of fsd with 20 hours per month if he's that confident

[Anonymous No.15788910]

listening to some wind ASMR on the NSF stream

[Anonymous No.15788911]

>>15788512
He's been through a lot had to fled to khazakstan to dodge the russian draft

[Anonymous No.15788924]

>>15788710
>>15788714
For that split second I needed to think if it was true or fake, I was full of hope. Died of as fast and easily as the beetles at launch

[Anonymous No.15788938]

>Longer term, EUV could be further extended by developing tools with an NA higher than 0.55, and hyper-NA systems (NA ≥ 0.75) are under consideration. Shorter wavelengths (6 nm < λ < 7nm) are also being assessed. This is sometimes referred to as Beyond EUV (BEUV).
>Changing to a shorter wavelength would be a much bigger change than increased NA and be much more challenging
>New light sources, multilayer coatings and photoresists would be needed for shorter wavelength lithography. Maintaining the same
level of photon shot noise at the shorter wavelength would require a doubling of light energy delivered to the wafer, which would
greatly increase the heating of masks and mirrors in the projection optic
EARTHERS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT
CAN'T COMPETE WITH SPACE LITHOGRAPHY

[Anonymous No.15788954]

>>15788938
Just use a big ass free electron laser

[Anonymous No.15788968]

>>15788938
Last I heard, TSMC is moving to free electron lasers. EUV on the way out.

>>15788954
That's what they are doing

[Anonymous No.15788981]

>>15788872
Same with the USA

[Anonymous No.15788983]

https://twitter.com/clearusui/status/1709803000112529646
Important update. Clear has written another article for a magazine. This time on XRISM which was recently launched on a H-IIA rocket.
Congratulations Ria!

[Anonymous No.15788992]

>-1000 viewers since stage sep
SpaceX has really made rocket landings boring and commonplace.

[Anonymous No.15789002]

>>15788983
>Clear just keeps on winning
Proud of that girl

[Anonymous No.15789007]

>>15788983
Rope now

[Anonymous No.15789008]

>>15788983
Cute!

[Anonymous No.15789036]

>>15788981
I forgot how fucking big the engines are. If you removed the pipes and welded on a floor they'd be the size of a small command pod.

[Anonymous No.15789037]

>>15789036
Why did you reply to that post DOE

[Anonymous No.15789041]

>>15789037
I am mentally disabled

[Anonymous No.15789042]

>>15788983
Very heartwarming to see someone make it, but also depressing to see yourself not doing anything.

[Anonymous No.15789067]

Each year the speed of light as an absolute unchanging hard limit gets weaker and weaker. It is only a matter of time until humans find a way to travel faster than light.

[Anonymous No.15789076]

>>15789067
>popsci_mindmush.jpg

[Anonymous No.15789078]

>>15789076
The supposed impossibility of going faster than light is the popsci shit.

[Anonymous No.15789081]

>>15789076
>Seething about popsci while defending judenphysik

Irony levels maximum

[Anonymous No.15789082]

No way youre trying to now twist special relativity in to popsci. Holy shit we have actually reached this point of delusion.

[Anonymous No.15789083]

>>15789081
>>15789078
Obvious

[Anonymous No.15789089]

>>15789083
Cool story wojackspamming newfag

[Anonymous No.15789092]

>>15789082
Reality conforms to mass perception. When coordinated, the human collective unconscious can exert retroactive changes on physical law.

[Anonymous No.15789093]

>>15789092
>>>/lit/sffg/

[Anonymous No.15789100]

you guys know space is fake right?

[Anonymous No.15789106]

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1709689298856133014

[Anonymous No.15789115]

hmmm, firmatards

[Anonymous No.15789117]

>>15789082
I mean, technically relativity is popular.

[Anonymous No.15789120]

I need new two weeks and its over posters to join me for October IFT-2, come on who knows the truth, help me some here.

[Anonymous No.15789126]

>>15789082
Relatively is ultimately an effective field theory and no more. No one seriously disputes the existence of some sort of ether. There's a lot of work yet to be done.
>To deny the ether is ultimately to assume that empty space has no physical qualities whatever. The fundamental facts of mechanics do not harmonize with this view.
>[B]esides observable objects, another thing, which is not perceptible, must be looked upon as real, to enable acceleration or rotation to be looked upon as something real.
>The ether of the general theory of relativity is a medium which is itself devoid of all mechanical and kinematical qualities, but helps to determine mechanical (and electromagnetic) events.
>Recapitulating, we may say that according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether. According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time intervals in the physical sense.
>But this ether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be applied to it.

[Anonymous No.15789132]

>>15789106

[Anonymous No.15789135]

>>15789132

[Anonymous No.15789137]

>>15789126
>relatively
>ether
>that text dump
you are a humongous retard, keep going.

[Anonymous No.15789139]

>>15789132
Neutron is actually real? I kind of thought it was investor bait and would just be a powerpoint rocket.

[Anonymous No.15789142]

>>15789137
And you're a kike

[Anonymous No.15789143]

>>15789139
They announced it nearly two full years ago and they are only now doing pressure testing on the first prototype tank. It's as real as the original carbon fiber Starship was.

[Anonymous No.15789150]

>>15788119
5h to go, not sure if its going to be part of the livestream below (which will start in 1 hour) or be a separate stream
I would think there would be a stream on X too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg3Z0wj9xDI

[Anonymous No.15789155]

>>15789139
They probably would not have made this much progress if Electron wasn't grounded due to the failure. It looks, and feels, like this is a low priority project while Electron needs work.

[Anonymous No.15789156]

>>15789150
6:45 AM PDT
9:45 AM EDT

[Anonymous No.15789157]

>>15789137
I'm quoting Albert Einstein, in his lecture "Ether and the Theory of Relativity" presented on 5 May 1920 at the University of Leiden

[Anonymous No.15789160]

>>15789157
kek

[Anonymous No.15789168]

>Vega, a fully solid launch vehicle, can only launch 1-3 time a year
How did we fuck up so badly, eurobros?

[Anonymous No.15789176]

Proposal:
Nameswap Uranus and Pluto.
Just swap their names.
It’s that simple.

[Anonymous No.15789178]

>>15789168
trusting mass produced Italian anything

[Anonymous No.15789180]

>>15789150
>>15789156
Is it worth it to stay up to watch this? Are we going to get any meaningful information or is he just gonna stutter and repeat everything we know already like the last presentation
>mfw that was 4 years ago
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOpMrVnjYeY

[Anonymous No.15789182]

>>15789180
I would say no its not worth it, you can watch it after you wake up
I've regretted staying up extremely late to watch stuff like this before
if it is like starting when you would normally go to sleep then I guess why not, but staying up like 4h or something is not worth it
its not like this is a Starship launch

[Anonymous No.15789207]

>>15788983
Good job Clear!!

[Anonymous No.15789220]

[Anonymous No.15789228]

>>15789176
Why don't we rename Mars to be Planet X?

[Anonymous No.15789232]

>>15789220
Wtf this racist lunatic is transporting critical launch hardware without a hermetically sealed crawler transporter. Nationalise this apartheid heir emerald mine magnate NOW.

[Anonymous No.15789234]

>>15789228
Maybe after elon buys mars

[Anonymous No.15789255]

henlo /sfg/
if you had a habitat on the moon could a bird fly properly?
what about a quadcopter?
i don't really get low gravity

[Anonymous No.15789257]

>>15789234
*colonizes mars
no need to buy when you go there first and stake a claim

[Anonymous No.15789259]

Should I spam articles before staging or after?
I guess its still a number of hours until staging so probably just do it now

[Anonymous No.15789263]

>>15789257
The indigenous methanogen microbes have native title.

[Anonymous No.15789265]

Russia talks a big future in space while its overall budget is quietly cut
---
https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/russia-talks-a-big-future-in-space-while-its-overall-budget-is-quietly-cut/
>The presentation had something of the feel of a Potemkin Village.
> The leader of Russia's space corporation, Yuri Borisov, discussed his country's future ambitions in space on Tuesday at the International Astronautical Congress. He spoke expansively about Russia's plans to build a new space station in low-Earth orbit, the Russian Orbital Station, as well as other initiatives.
> During the discussion, Borisov added that Russia is also hard at work on the "Sfera" megaconstellation to satisfy the country's large demand for communications. This constellation would include the capacity to provide direct-to-cell communications, which necessarily means that some of these satellites will be very large. Such projects cost billions of dollars at a minimum to get off the ground.
>In a PowerPoint slide accompanying Borisov's presentation, Roscosmos also advertised other, even grander visions. The slide showed a nuclear-powered deep space transport vehicle called "Nuklon" and two "prospective" launch vehicles named Amur-LNG and Korona.
> Every project proposed beyond the space station seems even more fanciful. Consider, for example, the Amur and Korona rockets. Russia has been talking publicly about the reusable "Amur" rocket for three years now. It looks similar to SpaceX's Falcon 9 and aims to have a reusable first stage. But there has apparently been zero progress toward developing the hardware.

[Anonymous No.15789266]

>>15789255
I think so. They already coast when they get thimals updraft or whatever. They would know to cope with excess lift.

>i don't really get low gravity
Just the down arrow would be smaller

[Anonymous No.15789270]

>>15789266
right but even with low gravity they still have the same mass right?
so acceleration and stuff is the same?

[Anonymous No.15789272]

>>15789266
thermal*

[Anonymous No.15789274]

Japan is studying a reusable rocket, but it won’t fly before 2030, Northrop Grumman to join Voyager Space commercial space station project (Nanoracks is part of Voyager Space)
----
https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/a-reusable-rocket-is-on-japans-road-map-for-space-development/
> This launcher would replace the H3 rocket, which hasn't yet become operational.
> There's no design yet for this still-unnamed rocket. A JAXA spokesperson told Space News that engineers haven't settled on a fuel. It could be cryogenic methane, the fuel favored by most companies developing new reusable launch rockets, or Japan could stick with liquid hydrogen, the super-cold fuel used on the H-2A and H3 rockets.
> Like many countries, Japan views independent access to space as a strategic imperative. Like other large spacefaring nations, Japan prefers to launch its spy satellites and scientific probes on homemade rockets.
> Japanese startups built on an entrepreneurial model similar to SpaceX and Rocket Lab are also vying to carve out a place for themselves in the launch market. One of those companies, Interstellar Technologies, unveiled a design for a large reusable rocket named Deca earlier this year. Interstellar has successfully launched a suborbital rocket into space and is working on a small orbital-class rocket as an intermediate step before the much heavier Deca vehicle.
---
https://spacenews.com/northrop-grumman-to-join-voyager-space-commercial-space-station-project/
> LOS ANGELES — Northrop Grumman will drop plans to develop its own commercial space station and instead assist a competing effort led by Voyager Space, the companies announced Oct. 4.
> Voyager Space recently added Airbus Defence and Space to its team, creating a joint venture to enable development of Starlab.

So there is now Vast, Axiom, Gravitics, Starlab (Voyager Space/Nanoracks/Airbus/Northrop Grumman)

[Anonymous No.15789276]

>>15787845
What makes chans better is the anonymity of the users inhibiting interpersonal drama. Many smaller chans failed because the admins/mods don't understand their positions are not immune from anonymity, quite to the contrary. They fail keeping the positions of power distanced and strictly business, effectively (when people constantly talk about mod did this mod thinks that) or outright becoming active namefags. I don't believe Elon would be able to keep himself away from becoming a massive namefag in the center of attention. Not the right guy for the job.

>>15787882
>make pass to bypass proxy bans
>doesn't work on tor (can change ip every 15/30 minutes. fucking why? tor changes ip all the time)
The entire reason I don't get Pass. They should accept Monero and have .onion and .i2p addresses. That would be proper and based.

[Anonymous No.15789278]

>>15789274
lol wrong image

> Voyager Space and Airbus Defence and Space have created a joint venture that will handle development and operations of the Starlab commercial space station. Credit: Voyager Space

[Anonymous No.15789280]

>>15789276
4chan had a lot of tripfags in the very early days. General anonymity was almost a lucky accident.

[Anonymous No.15789283]

>>15789270
Mass and weight not same thing.
Low gravity = less weight for same mass

Your weight changes by tiny amounts on different places on the earth even

[Anonymous No.15789286]

>>15789270
12 year olds learn this basic shit holy fuck

[Anonymous No.15789287]

>>15789270
Mass is the same so the effect of pushing with the wings will be the same horizontally. Just less upwards push required to get moving since less weight.
Chickens would fly easily for example.

[Anonymous No.15789288]

>>15789286
not in my country lol

[Anonymous No.15789294]

>>15789286
I am 11 years old and what is this

[Anonymous No.15789296]

>>15789270
Mass is different than weight, yes. Mass is a constant, while weight is the force exerted against a surface under the influence of gravity. It is weirdly hard not to describe gravity as a force here.

[Anonymous No.15789299]

Japan’s SLIM moon lander makes lunar flyby, Startups from four nations join 2023 Hyperspace Challenge, SRI partners with Scout Space and Leidos for debris-tracking project
---
https://spacenews.com/japans-slim-moon-lander-makes-lunar-flyby/
> The Smart Lander for Investigating Moon (SLIM) lander made its closest approach to the moon at 2:47 a.m. Eastern, Oct. 4. It passed just under 5,000 kilometers from the lunar surface at a relative speed of 1.47 kilometers per second.
> The spacecraft is now on a long, looping orbit that will bring it back to the moon late in the year. The orbit will allow it to enter lunar orbit in a more propellant-efficient manner than needing to perform a long braking burn during the recent flyby.
---
https://spacenews.com/startups-from-four-nations-join-2023-hyperspace-challenge/
> SAN FRANCISCO – Six startups based in four countries are joining the 2023 Hyperspace Challenge, an accelerator run by the Air Force Research Laboratory and CNM Ingenuity with support from the U.S. Space Force Space Rapid Capabilities Office.
---
https://spacenews.com/sri-partners-with-scout-space-and-leidos-for-debris-tracking-project/
> Under a contract funded by the U.S. intelligence community, companies will attempt to track the smallest debris objects in space
> WASHINGTON — SRI International announced Oct. 4 it selected the defense technology firm Leidos and startup Scout Space as subcontractors for a space debris-tracking project funded by the U.S. intelligence community.
> The project, known as Space Debris Identification and Tracking (SINTRA), is expected to be completed in four years. IARPA is an agency under the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
> IARPA wants to identify technologies and methods to successfully track debris objects smaller than 10 centimeters long, or about the size of a credit card.

[Anonymous No.15789305]

Mars Society conference happening online Oct. 5 through Oct. 8, Germany Advocates Competitive Launch Procurement Process, Launch Roundup: Project Kuiper Protoflight and Galactic 04 highlight this week
---
https://www.space.com/mars-society-annual-conference-2023-preview
> 'Mars for All' is the 2023 Mars Society annual conference theme.
---
https://europeanspaceflight.com/germany-advocates-competitive-launch-procurement-process/
> Germany has announced its intention to pursue a competitive procurement process when purchasing launch services. The country also intends to use its position within the European Space Agency to advocate that the agency does the same.
> Germany adopting this stance to the procurement of launch services is significant as the country is one of the two primary contributors to Ariane 6 and, for 2023 at least, the largest contributor to the ESA budget. That is, however, not to say that the country is being entirely altruistic.
> [...], Germany is also home to some of the most promising European launch startups. The country boasts the likes of Isar Aerospace, Rocket Factory Augsburg, and HyImpulse. As a result, a move towards a competitive launch procurement process would likely ultimately benefit the country, siphoning customers from Avio in Italy while retaining heavier-mass payloads on Ariane 6 that no European launch startup can come close to supporting.
---
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2023/10/kuipler-protoflight-and-more/
> United Launch Alliance (ULA) is about to fly only its second Atlas V of 2023, as Amazon’s subsidiary Kuiper Systems LLC is finally about to place its first Kuiper demonstration satellites into orbit. This week also features a launch from China, a Falcon 9 Starlink launch, a Virgin Galactic suborbital tourist flight, and one of the final flights for the original Vega small satellite launcher.

[Anonymous No.15789304]

>>15789299
Why is everyone wasting time with the Moon. Thunderf00t already debunked there being ice at the poles.

[Anonymous No.15789308]

>>15789287
Peacocks look goofy when they try

[Anonymous No.15789314]

>>15789304
next year is going to get busy with the CLIPS landings, 2 this year still perhaps, 4 planned for next year

https://science.nasa.gov/lunar-science/deliveries/

[Anonymous No.15789343]

>>15789176
Historical literature will be confusing as fuck but… not a bad idea truth be told

[Anonymous No.15789347]

>>15789308
Flies better than you pal

[Anonymous No.15789356]

>>15789347
You're saying...he didn't fly so good?

[Anonymous No.15789369]

>>15789280
>lucky accident
Not requiring a username and not bothering the poster with registration was a big deal from early on. People who didn't want that shit are the people that ended up on 4chan, so not entirely luck.
https://wakaba.c3.cx/shii/
Moot's minimal open involvement was key in 4chan not falling apart too. (Although involved more than today but mostly for cool stuff, not getting embroiled in petty shit) Move to anonymity including for staff in public is why 4chan survived all these years. You can call a namefag a fag and move on. You can shit on jannies and come back. No total post numbers associated with usernames. You can start anew without standing out as a same or new poster. No poster history or seniority on a database ivory tower. Experience and memes in your head and private folders you collect is all you have. Even namefags, they can still post anonymously of course. It's a choice. Posts speak for themselves.
Also I'm against taking posts all the way from 2003-4 era and giving them authority on what 4chan's OG essence is. It's too early. Back then it was still an offshoot of a forum and didn't establish an identity yet. That comes a few years later. Most who tripfagged didn't know better, but then anonymity as a norm took off pretty quickly.

[Anonymous No.15789376]

Based on the work going on, is it like SpaceX still has to fix bunch of shit before flight, or are they really ready and waiting for the loicence and doing bunch of other side stuff in the mean time?

[Anonymous No.15789395]

>>15789376
The timeline would be too gay for me if latter

[Anonymous No.15789397]

>>15789376
they are waiting for the license

[Anonymous No.15789405]

>>15789376
you're retarded. the stack has literally been sitting there

[Anonymous No.15789408]

>>15789369
I love 4chan

[Anonymous No.15789432]

https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/1709875289843450128

> Well, this is ambitious & far-sighted. China: 3 x Chang'e Moon landings this decade, Tianwen missions to NEA/comet, Mars samples & Jupiter (+TW-X...), planetary defense mission, future Moon & Mars research stations, plus heliosphere missions & exoplanet (likely Miyin) telescope.

[Anonymous No.15789469]

Staging

>>15789467
>>15789467
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[Anonymous No.15789543]

>>15789272
Animorphs taught me about those when I was little. Thank you, KA Applegate.

[Anonymous No.15789594]

>>15789314
>HLS Demo, requiring multiple starship flights beforehand, AND successful orbital propellant transfer, within next 14 months
>when the FWS can delay it for *at least* the next 6 months without any given reason

[Anonymous No.15789691]

>>15789296
gravity IS a force and the fact that it arises due to flow of spacetime does not chsnge the fact that it is a force. it's just not a force that arises from exchanges of virtual particles like the others.

[Anonymous No.15789708]

>>15788500
SpaceX is claiming that they are converting it to an EVA suit

[Anonymous No.15789711]

>>15788570
somebody post the picture of the guy in the vacuum chamber with no gloves