/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.15766840]

previous: >>15761309

[Anonymous No.15766845]

>>15766840
that bitch is nasty looking

[Anonymous No.15766857]

next month

[Anonymous No.15766873]

>>15766857
Sending my energy to schizo man, total general relativity death.

[Anonymous No.15766874]

The Starlink subscriber count rises

[Anonymous No.15766887]

>>15766874
>tfw one of the two million

I pay almost twice what I used to but the service is rock solid, ping is fuck all, get a better data package, no more 4g tower congestion bullshit and dealing with jeet call centres. Spaceman internet just werks.

[Anonymous No.15766891]

>>15766887
You were on mobile internet? Damn. Congratulations on making it to the first world

[Anonymous No.15766900]

>>15766891
First world but rural, city homosexuals don't know how bad things are outside of the suburbs.

[Anonymous No.15766902]

>science golem safe space
Quickly call the jannies to curate the thread of any wrongthink.

[Anonymous No.15766907]

>>15766857
It will get delayed another three months :^)

[Anonymous No.15766928]

>>15766874
will prices ever be lowered? US$100 is a lot of money in my country...

[Anonymous No.15766974]

finally hung this fucking thing. spacex didnt provide any mount, so i used metal-metal epoxy and a 17-inch french cleat

[Anonymous No.15766984]

>>15766974
how radioactive are your marble countertops

[Anonymous No.15766986]

>>15766974
comfy kitchen

[Anonymous No.15767007]

>>15766857
what is next month

[Anonymous No.15767013]

>>15767007
The next Transporter mission, and one of the payloads is apparently an EM Drive demonstrator of some sort.

[Anonymous No.15767015]

>>15766984
my home smells like radon

[Anonymous No.15767016]

>>15766840
what a shitty OP. Twitter screencap and no edition

[Anonymous No.15767020]

>>15767015
are those pumpkins on one of the desks

[Anonymous No.15767022]

>>15767020
my grandmother knits them every fall, i have accumulated 6 so far

[Anonymous No.15767033]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1705793332272587076

[Anonymous No.15767041]

>>15767033
considering 90% of the rocket is propellant, and they don't reuse the propellant, it's safe to sat that F9 isn't reusable.

[Anonymous No.15767042]

>>15767041
he cant keep getting away with these scams

[Anonymous No.15767044]

>>15767041
Wet mass doesn't matter for first stages. Prop cost is a rounding error.

[Anonymous No.15767051]

>>15767041
Thunderbunked again

[Anonymous No.15767056]

>>15767041

[Anonymous No.15767058]

>>15764842
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdwyqctp908
4h 20min

[Anonymous No.15767062]

>>15767058
how do they steer the capsule anyways

[Anonymous No.15767063]

>>15767062
little green man inside it

[Anonymous No.15767068]

Day after day the sciencegolems are performing the most retarded mental gymnastics whenever a new delay, blunder, or rocket launch postponement is announced. You eat right up as if it was hot cum. This has been going on for years now, decades really if you account for the boomers and gen x golems who were sold these space dreams in the 70's and 80's. Those idiots too believed they would be jetting through the galaxy at any moment now in their own personal spaceshit with their robowaifus meeting all kinds of exotic aliens along the way. They too were sure it would happen in their lifetime. Many of those losers are still alive today and the only thing they got was CGI and studio props like the Star Wars franchise and Star Trek.

The reality is it's just bread and circuses to keep the golems waging for a science fiction future that doesn't exist because the earth is flat and stationary.

[Anonymous No.15767069]

>>15767068
doesnt this get tiresome?

[Anonymous No.15767076]

>>15767069
The blatant censorship is more tiresome. But naturally you don't care about that.

[Anonymous No.15767077]

>15767068
what if we use /x/ tourists as coating for the launch pad?

[Anonymous No.15767079]

>>15767068
yeshua is king

[Anonymous No.15767082]

The truth lasts no more than few minutes on this board. Meanwhile the lies are pushed every second by shills and glowniggers.

[Anonymous No.15767090]

>>15767082
the truth is that you are schizophrenic

[Anonymous No.15767093]

>>15767082
Go back to your containment board retard.

[Anonymous No.15767096]

>>15767090
>>15767093
No, he's right.
Most of this board is filled with boomers who are incapable of researching topics before discussing them.
This general is one of the few "safe" places.

Seriously, try and make a post about satelites measuring the circumference of the earth or something dumb like that.
You will have unironic flat earthers foaming at the mouth within the first five replies.

[Anonymous No.15767101]

https://twitter.com/peterrhague/status/1705846803860541549

> Thanks to @JohnJossy1957 for alerting me to yet another “rocket man bad” level anti-space colonisation article.
>Riddled with the usual idiocy about radiation and microgravity - you can tell this one is going to be bad because it’s already walking back the clickbait headline by the time it gets to the subhead.

Scientific American is such trash

[Anonymous No.15767106]

Who is pushing these bizarre flat Earth theories?

[Anonymous No.15767107]

>>15767106
retards

[Anonymous No.15767111]

>>15767106
boomers

[Anonymous No.15767114]

>>15767101
there are no medical hurdles. Also we need to do a multi-generational ant breeding experiment in space to see how they adapt.

[Anonymous No.15767116]

The french space agency is offering 9 prizes of up to €100 if you can make a crewed grasshopper that lifts off from the KSC and lands on the island in either stock ksp 1.12.5 or ksp 2.

It’s named "klisto challenge", after Callisto, the Franco-German-Japanese grasshopper-like demonstrator that should have flown in 2021 and is currently slated for 2024

[Anonymous No.15767123]

>>15767106
glowniggers, as an attempt to discredit other more reasonable claims

[Anonymous No.15767126]

>>15767101
>Scientific American
they went glowball warman woke before woke was cool (not that it ever was), I dropped the paper sub back in 2001 or so

[Anonymous No.15767128]

soon

[Anonymous No.15767129]

>>15767101
>woman
opinion immediately discarded

[Anonymous No.15767131]

someone repoast info about the osiris rex thigy today kplx

[Anonymous No.15767135]

>>15767131
why not just look at the old post>>15767058

[Anonymous No.15767139]

Soon....

[Anonymous No.15767144]

>>15767106
I don't see why you need to go to space to get overview effect. Just looking at shit like this makes me think how small humanity is in the world.

[Anonymous No.15767159]

BLUE BOOSTER ONE

[Anonymous No.15767160]

>>15767159
>this mockup is now 3 years old

[Anonymous No.15767180]

>>15767159
when will blue origin happen ?

[Anonymous No.15767183]

> OSIRIS-REx: Return capsule has separated and the spacecraft has performed divert maneuver. The spacecraft has successfully completed its initial mission.

> Now on its way to a new destination, asteroid Apophis. OSIRIS-REx has become OSIRIS-APEX.

Guess the new pronouns....

[Anonymous No.15767191]

>>15767183
love me some deep space missions
this is what /sfg/ should be about

[Anonymous No.15767204]

>>15767183
Wait, what? Your mom lets you visit TWO asteroids?

[Anonymous No.15767209]

>>15767191
Often when I try talking about deep space probe missions here anons start rambling about costs and how they aren't ambitious enough and how anything that isn't about space settlement is useless.

[Anonymous No.15767210]

4 hours until the lil face huggers arrive.

[Anonymous No.15767211]

>>15767204
they added the extended mission after China confirmed it will visit two asteroids, it needs to be the first to pull this off
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianwen-2

[Anonymous No.15767212]

>>15767204
Lucy's mom keeps letting her visit more asteroids

[Anonymous No.15767216]

>>15767209
because deep space missions are and have always been the domain of oldspace mass autism and cost plus contracts. We'll look back upon this age of pre-starlink DSN and pre-fully reusable heavy launch vehicles like we look back on people delivering mail by plane in the 20s and 30s. Where it'd still take days and you could only fly during the day by following big visual markers on the ground that pointed you in the right direction

[Anonymous No.15767218]

>>15767204
> Roughly 1,000 feet wide, Apophis will come within 20,000 miles of Earth – less than one-tenth the distance between Earth and the Moon – in 2029. OSIRIS-APEX is scheduled to enter orbit of Apophis soon after the asteroid’s close approach of Earth to see how the encounter affected the asteroid’s orbit, spin rate, and surface.

So, try to look surprised in 2029 when they announce the encounter changed the asteroid's orbit and we're all gonna die.

[Anonymous No.15767220]

>>15767191
See? >>15767216
also what has starlink to do with DSN?

[Anonymous No.15767223]

>>15767204
>>15767212
Requesting space probes hanging out in the playground and one-upping each other.

[Anonymous No.15767227]

https://twitter.com/NerdyKowboy/status/1705891484052988086

Neat, hopefully we'll get some good live footage from the canberra.

[Anonymous No.15767234]

The landing trajectory starts above the San Francisco Bay area then goes towards Utah, so if you're on that path, might want to go outside and look up.

[Anonymous No.15767236]

>>15767209
It's always the same uninspired analysis too. "Mass optimisation" this and "mass production" that. Wow, what novel ideas, never heard that on /sfg/ before. Let's just sit and wait for this revolution in space science, I'm sure it's just around the corner now. It's been predicted for so long.

[Anonymous No.15767243]

>>15767236
it is what it is, just waiting for Starship

[Anonymous No.15767246]

>>15767236
I honestly hope the revolution is actually around the corner, mainly about reducing travel time to the outer solar system. But this won't stop me from appreciating what we got.

[Anonymous No.15767248]

>>15767220
In a future where you have multiple FRHLVs available for launch services, you can cut down massively on mass autism (cost and complexity savings), and gravity assists (time savings). To the point where you no longer need to choose one or two interesting flagship missions every decade that might make it to the destination before you retire. You can build multiple dragonflys, orbiters, sample return missions, etc at a level of cost that would rival a single flagship mission when you account for cost overruns.

ground based DSN barely copes with the current level of active missions in deep space, scaling up by adding moar dishes only takes you so far. A space based solution is needed in the long term

>>15767236
you don't even need mass production, full reuse is the revolution coming. By the time of the next planetary sciences decadal survey starship will be a mature system and even new glenn should've launched a few times

[Anonymous No.15767254]

>>15767211
First nothing, it's completely standard. Giotto visited an extra comet, as did Deep Impact, Stardust another comet and an asteroid. The only thing needed for extended mission flybys is patience and a little propellent.

[Anonymous No.15767258]

Ethanolox

[Anonymous No.15767284]

I wonder if it would ever make sense to power aircraft with methane.

You could for example have a Hypersonic turbojet aircraft that uses cryogenic methane as a working fluid to cool down the air flow before it hits the compressor.
This would allow for much higher speed operation before compressor melting and with better thermal efficiency.

It would have considerably higher density and be much easier to work with than Hydrogen by comparison.

[Anonymous No.15767287]

>>15767258

[Anonymous No.15767309]

>>15767287
you aren't supposed to drink the fuel

[Anonymous No.15767319]

>>15767284
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-155

[Anonymous No.15767335]

>>15767183
As in the one that's going to crash into earth apophis?

[Anonymous No.15767342]

>>15767106
zigger and xigger bots as part of their never ending firehose of falsehoods pro gamer strat

[Anonymous No.15767350]

https://twitter.com/NosuSuishin/status/1705860470018908638

[Anonymous No.15767357]

> NASA aircraft up to monitor the OSIRIS-REx sample return mission. The capsule containing the material from asteroid Bennu will land at the Utah Test and Training range later today.

> WB-57: N927NA // #ACD958
> G-III: NASA2 // N992NA // #ADDB3E
> G-IV: NASA522 // N522NA // #A69189

Air Force will probably JDAM the capsule out of reflex.

[Anonymous No.15767363]

>>15767350
i wanna name my ship Grand Canyon

[Anonymous No.15767380]

>>15766928
It's less in poor countries. The cost to Space X of adding a customer in an area that's under capacity must be pretty low. They need the whole constellation even if they sell nothing in the third world.

[Anonymous No.15767384]

>>15767022
>6 year old grandmother
Nice house for Latin America!

[Anonymous No.15767392]

>>15767041
I was on an expendable airliner the other day. They didn't bring any of the fuel on the next flight, to say nothing of the passengers and luggage! Pretty sure those fuckers were only using the oxidizer once, too.

[Anonymous No.15767396]

>>15767357
I wonder if they have to manually turn off their missile defense systems in case they think its a nuke.

[Anonymous No.15767397]

Day after day the sciencegolems are performing the most retarded mental gymnastics whenever a new delay, blunder, or rocket launch postponement is announced. You eat right up as if it was hot cum. This has been going on for years now, decades really if you account for the boomers and gen x golems who were sold these space dreams in the 70's and 80's. Those idiots too believed they would be jetting through the galaxy at any moment now in their own personal spaceshit with their robowaifus meeting all kinds of exotic aliens along the way. They too were sure it would happen in their lifetime. Many of those losers are still alive today and the only thing they got was CGI and studio props like the Star Wars franchise and Star Trek.

The reality is it's just bread and circuses to keep you golems waging for a science fiction future that doesn't exist because the earth is flat and stationary.

[Anonymous No.15767400]

>>15767106
Retards engage with them to get a feeling of superiority for debunking nonsense with what are generally regurgitated arguments.

[Anonymous No.15767402]

>>15767129
based

[Anonymous No.15767405]

>>15767191
We'd have fucking deep space colonies by now if it weren't for grift, bureaucrats and self-serving politicians in the US federal government. Deep space missions would be high school or junior high projects.

[Anonymous No.15767408]

>>15767210
Damn, I thought it'd be coming in at 10am my time or roughly 15 minutes from now. Time zones are gay. The stream I'm watching says it enters tonight, but if it's only 4 hours away then it'll come in around 2pm for me.
I'm so confused and tired.

[Anonymous No.15767410]

>>15767209
Yes, because all of this shit is going to look absolutely pathetic if Starship is successful.

[Anonymous No.15767419]

>>15767236
You'll wait longer for a new deep space mission to be developed and completed than for regular orbital starship launches.

Your argument is at best misguided.

[Anonymous No.15767423]

>>15767236
You're mad

[Anonymous No.15767424]

>>15767058
9 min until NASA stream start

[Anonymous No.15767429]

>>15767408
It was four hours away two hours ago. Two hours left

[Anonymous No.15767433]

2 weeks until reentry

[Anonymous No.15767434]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fAlIjv338o

[Anonymous No.15767439]

>>15767434
sexy girl <3

[Anonymous No.15767440]

>>15767058
we're live

[Anonymous No.15767444]

>>15767397
we're going to need to science the heck out of debunking this one fellow golems

[Anonymous No.15767446]

https://youtu.be/Kdwyqctp908

[Anonymous No.15767449]

>>15767446
>not on X
Not watching this shit

[Anonymous No.15767454]

Why is everyone so excited for a few grams of sand?

[Anonymous No.15767456]

>>15767454
Most of us were shitposting here together during the sample collection livestream 3 years ago.

[Anonymous No.15767458]

> OSIRIS-REx Separation Event observed from Australia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjoWdUX8jHY

Impressive what modern telescopes can do.

[Anonymous No.15767460]

>>15767454
because it came from the asteroid bennis

[Anonymous No.15767462]

>>15767446
live

[Anonymous No.15767463]

>I'm afraid of those cows!
>Let's stay away from those cows
Uh... NASA?

[Anonymous No.15767465]

>>15767456
yet no one has posted the benis edit. curious.

[Anonymous No.15767468]

>>15767462
The woman on the right can't stop bumping her own mic and it's driving me nuts. The guy isn't doing it at all.

[Anonymous No.15767469]

>>15767462
Why are NASA commentators so gross

[Anonymous No.15767470]

Was Bennu named by a Japanese team? Did they actually mean to it Ben?

[Anonymous No.15767471]

>>15767468
*left, my brain isn't on yet this morning

[Anonymous No.15767476]

Holy shit sort the FUCKING audio out already.

[Anonymous No.15767477]

>>15767470
Egyptian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bennu

[Anonymous No.15767479]

https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1705945106203717922

LIVE

[Anonymous No.15767481]

"How do you do, fellow space kids?"

[Anonymous No.15767483]

>>15767481
This is the best ever!! METEORS FROM SPACE WILL SOON BE OURS

[Anonymous No.15767485]

Ants have hairy feet? WTF is NASA trying to say?

[Anonymous No.15767487]

>“When you’ve had success for too long, you lose the desire to take risks.”

[Anonymous No.15767489]

>>15767485
they're trying to say WOW!

[Anonymous No.15767492]

>20% chance it just burns up
Uhhhh isnt that a little high?

[Anonymous No.15767498]

[Anonymous No.15767501]

>>15767498
it has to be a wig

[Anonymous No.15767504]

>>15767492
It's just a puppet show for the public, the actual purpose of the mission was to demonstrate US automated satellite rendezvous capabilities. If they get the rocks back that's just a bonus.

[Anonymous No.15767507]

"Tonight at 11..."

"DOOOOOOOOOOOOM!"

[Anonymous No.15767510]

>>15767504
>things aren't what they seem to be
>there is an elaborate military conspiracy
still the stupidest poster in the thread

[Anonymous No.15767515]

Did she just pronounce "Ryuugu" properly?

[Anonymous No.15767519]

What's Osiris Apex going to do when Apophis strikes Earth

[Anonymous No.15767523]

>>15767510
You think they fund NASA for the space rocks or maintaining institutional knowledge in rocketry?

[Anonymous No.15767531]

[Anonymous No.15767535]

[Anonymous No.15767536]

Didn't a bunch of the dust float away from the return capsule before the lid shut? Or was that Hayabusa2? I seem to remember some sample return having that issue.

[Anonymous No.15767538]

>>15767396
Actually will pass over the ABMs at Vanderberg. Hope someone at Space Force turned the swich to SAFE.

[Anonymous No.15767540]

>>15767536
yes I think they lost a bit

[Anonymous No.15767553]

[Anonymous No.15767556]

THAT IS INCREDIBLE

[Anonymous No.15767561]

>>15767553

[Anonymous No.15767562]

>>15767434
noooo, don't burn your fingers, Clear!

[Anonymous No.15767571]

>>15767481
I just can't stand talking heads like that without Clear to soften their normalfaggotry.

[Anonymous No.15767575]

>LARGEST sample return in history!
Throwing shade at Hayabusa? Petty.

[Anonymous No.15767586]

Entered earths atmosphere T-13 min

[Anonymous No.15767587]

>>15767510
Working overtime i see special agent gary smith

[Anonymous No.15767590]

> Recovery helicopters are airborne.

"Thunderbirds are GO!"

[Anonymous No.15767594]

>>15767586
>34gs of peak deceleration
coming in pretty hot today

[Anonymous No.15767600]

>>15767350
l-lewd~

[Anonymous No.15767607]

"We're in the pipe 5 by 5"

[Anonymous No.15767608]

parachute deployment soon

[Anonymous No.15767613]

parachute deployed

[Anonymous No.15767615]

>>15767608
>connection drops out
>parachute open when it comes back 5 seconds later
jesus christ

[Anonymous No.15767616]

>waiting until 5k ft to deploy chute
Absolutely Kerbal

[Anonymous No.15767617]

[Anonymous No.15767629]

tango delta nominal, bros

[Anonymous No.15767630]

Touchdown, 3 min too early lol

[Anonymous No.15767631]

Damn! Almost landed right on the road.

[Anonymous No.15767636]

>>15767630
Rapid speed

[Anonymous No.15767637]

>switching to helicopter camera which is way worse than WB57 right before touchdown
like pottery

[Anonymous No.15767638]

>>15767631
Makes it easier to recover

[Anonymous No.15767639]

>>15767630
I'm glad they have the NASA AC-130 ready to shoot it once it hit the ground.

[Anonymous No.15767640]

please clap

[Anonymous No.15767642]

>240p quality feed in 2023
Yeah I'm thinking it's completely fake and gay.

[Anonymous No.15767647]

>>15767637
It looked like it was going off the edge of the WB57's visual range anyway

[Anonymous No.15767648]

>>15767631
>a, $800M seven-year mission stumbles at the finish line because the capsule was designed to land on dirt instead of pavement

[Anonymous No.15767649]

time to rewatch the andromeda strain

[Anonymous No.15767652]

>15767642
>frog
go back you fucking tourist

[Anonymous No.15767655]

[Anonymous No.15767659]

>>15767647
yep

[Anonymous No.15767663]

>>15767350

[Anonymous No.15767664]

>>15767655

[Anonymous No.15767666]

helicopters should land soon

[Anonymous No.15767667]

>>15767663

[Anonymous No.15767671]

>>15767667
based

[Anonymous No.15767675]

>>15767667

[Anonymous No.15767677]

https://twitter.com/DrPhiltill/status/1705933167708791132

Anyone got time stamp?

[Anonymous No.15767694]

The main parachute developed at 20k feet instead of 5k feet it was supposed to

[Anonymous No.15767697]

>parachute deploy 4x higher altitude than planned
>"that would explain our early landing"
uh, what?

[Anonymous No.15767702]

>>15767553
lmao

[Anonymous No.15767704]

I would like to use this opportunity to thank the folks at NASA that made this amazing sample return possible.

[Anonymous No.15767714]

>>15767667
Thunderfag be like

[Anonymous No.15767719]

>>15767704
I heard they rehearsed extensively to perform the very complex recovery operation. They had the top Fedex delivery drivers onboard to consult the team on complications such as dogs at the delivery site and the home owner not being home.

[Anonymous No.15767720]

lol they will move it with a helicopter, seems kind of risky
why not just use a car?

[Anonymous No.15767724]

>>15767719
FedEx billed NASA $67 million for their consulting services

[Anonymous No.15767728]

[Anonymous No.15767730]

This just doesn’t seem that exciting to me idk why the hell twitter is going apeshit like this is the coolest thing ever

[Anonymous No.15767735]

Q: What if they open the probe and it's just full of potatoes?
A: They will have to rename the spacecraft to SPUDnik

[Anonymous No.15767736]

teams should start recovery operations soon

[Anonymous No.15767739]

>>15767730
It's not that exciting, people just want to relive the excitement of Shuttle reentry but have nothing to replace it with until manned Starship missions in like 2045.

[Anonymous No.15767740]

>>15767730
its pieces of an asteroid

[Anonymous No.15767744]

>>15767697
>4x higher altitude
must've gotten it backwards, i.e., it was really 4x lower

[Anonymous No.15767747]

>>15767740
don't these things land on Earth like every day?

[Anonymous No.15767746]

kilo-1 has landed at the recovery site
environmental safety sweep starting, checking unexploded ordinance for instance (parachutes are deployed with explosives)

[Anonymous No.15767748]

>>15767730
Roggs.

[Anonymous No.15767751]

>>15767747
Yeah but they usually get cooked on the way in, this one is pristine.

[Anonymous No.15767754]

>>15767747
they get fucked up
now you can compare non-fucked up material to meteorites

[Anonymous No.15767758]

>inb4 alien form is in the capsule

[Anonymous No.15767763]

>>15767751
but Japan already did that

[Anonymous No.15767764]

>>15767758
>all it wants to do it suck penis nonstop
it'll doom the human race but not in the way the disaster movie portray

[Anonymous No.15767769]

Alright /sfg/, you are all severely autistic and spend a majority of your time following space news and/or researching space history
So without googling, you should be able to tell me how we KNOW, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that “martian meteorites” actually come from Mars
You do know? Right??

[Anonymous No.15767770]

bit off topic but considering that Europa is spewing part of it's ocean into the space a sample return seems easier than from Mars.

[Anonymous No.15767774]

>>15767763
Seriously like what’s the big deal here? USA got jealous and wanted some of their own? God complex country

[Anonymous No.15767775]

>>15767769
uhhhh gas trapped in bubbles?
I think I learned that from TV

[Anonymous No.15767776]

>>15767769
It's the carbon or something right?

[Anonymous No.15767779]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteorite

[Anonymous No.15767780]

>>15767769
They also contained alien fossils

[Anonymous No.15767781]

>>15767769
sorry, /sfg/ autism is only for starship

[Anonymous No.15767786]

>>15767763
Yeah but we wanted one of our own.
>>15767774
USA! USA! USA!

[Anonymous No.15767789]

>>15767769
This is how they know >>15767779
Men are from Mars, so the asteroids from it look like penises.

[Anonymous No.15767792]

gas masked people

[Anonymous No.15767793]

>Space COVID

[Anonymous No.15767795]

[Anonymous No.15767797]

[Anonymous No.15767802]

kek why are they being so gay? just pick it up lmao it already survived fucking reentry

[Anonymous No.15767803]

>Victoria appears to be kicking the SRC, not sure what for

[Anonymous No.15767804]

>>15767159
not a booster

[Anonymous No.15767806]

>>15767781
Apparently. Saddest thing.

[Anonymous No.15767811]

[Anonymous No.15767812]

what’s with all the stupid theatrics. Just throw it in a truck trailer and drive it to the storage warehouse you dumb fucks.

[Anonymous No.15767818]

>>15767769
geological properties

[Anonymous No.15767819]

>>15767769
You made me check, there isn't one convenient answer, the answer is that they have the same composition as Mars.

[Anonymous No.15767824]

WE ASTEROID MINERS NOW!

[Anonymous No.15767828]

>>15767769
I ask it politely.

[Anonymous No.15767838]

>>15767642
>240p
I'm pulling 1080p
Get starlink

[Anonymous No.15767839]

>>15767659
is this from some plane?

[Anonymous No.15767841]

Shut the fuck up bitch you aren’t being paid to describe your surroundings like some sort or van gogh painting. Stupid english major whore

[Anonymous No.15767844]

they resurrected a corpse

[Anonymous No.15767845]

Fuck off, Ballast Bill

[Anonymous No.15767847]

>>15767839
One of these things, I think.

[Anonymous No.15767850]

>probe with egyptian name
>mummy talking on the stream
kek

[Anonymous No.15767853]

>>15767844
Is that the mummy they showed off to the Mexican congress last week

[Anonymous No.15767857]

>>15767850
Osiris WILL rise again

[Anonymous No.15767860]

WHAT is going on with that chin?

[Anonymous No.15767861]

>>15767850
Hahahaha

[Anonymous No.15767863]

whats up with her jaw, jesus

[Anonymous No.15767865]

>>15767839
>>15767847
This one specifically, I'm pretty sure this is what was getting the high altitude thermal shots. The stuff on the ground right now is a helicopter.

[Anonymous No.15767867]

>>15767863
I bet she could pull off one hell of a witch costume for halloween, at least.

[Anonymous No.15767869]

maybe the chin has grown when she got older?
don't some old people have big noses and ears or something, if that shit keeps growing

[Anonymous No.15767873]

>>15767863
average american

[Anonymous No.15767879]

>>15767863
She got that pharaoh chin extension, makes sense for an egyptian themed mission.

[Anonymous No.15767882]

[Anonymous No.15767884]

If they did a tiny little spaceplane return capsule it could have just flown directly to the storage facility. Just saying

[Anonymous No.15767888]

>>15767873
An astronaut who has flown to space on launch vehicle developed by her own country?

[Anonymous No.15767891]

>>15767888
aka ugly

[Anonymous No.15767895]

>>15766840
This thread sponsored by Pizza Hut

[Anonymous No.15767897]

> OSIRIS-REx: The recovery team confirms the sample return capsule is fully intact, with no breaches, after its dramatic descent to Earth

[Anonymous No.15767902]

>>15767897
wen science results

[Anonymous No.15767904]

Soooo did lockmart fuck up the parachutes and just get extremely lucky here?

[Anonymous No.15767915]

>>15767655
auto translations when?

https://twitter.com/sekiguchiaimi/status/1705855926148984915

[Anonymous No.15767928]

> They’ll have two hours to collect the capsule, package it for transportation back across the military installation, and collect soil and water samples from around its landing location. Those environmental samples will later serve as controls once scientists begin assessing the asteroid material.

> The capsule will then be airlifted with a cable to a temporary “clean room” built inside a hanger at Dugway. There, specialists will decontaminate the capsule and prepare the Bennu sample for transportation to NASA’s Johnston Space Center in Houston, Texas.

[Anonymous No.15767929]

>inb4 the helicopter drops it mid-flight

[Anonymous No.15767934]

started moving it now

[Anonymous No.15767950]

>asteroid city
The fuck is this shit

[Anonymous No.15767951]

[Anonymous No.15767957]

cringe

[Anonymous No.15767963]

I fucking hate actors so much, holy shit

[Anonymous No.15767967]

Why would asteroid dust need to be taken to a military installation?

[Anonymous No.15767974]

>>15767967
Because they have a large undisturbed government range property for reentry

[Anonymous No.15767985]

In Houston:

> Researchers will first put the capsule that landed in Utah into the larger glovebox. The team will open the capsule here and reveal a smaller container holding the 250 grams of material. That smaller container will be moved to the second glovebox, where the sample will be separated into smaller portions to be distributed.

NASA scientists get 6 months exclusive access, then samples can be distributed to other researchers.

[Anonymous No.15767991]

>using the riskiest method of transportation airlifting on the outside of a helicopter
what did nasa mean by this?

[Anonymous No.15767994]

preparing for long line operations

[Anonymous No.15767998]

>>15767991
who the fuck knows

[Anonymous No.15768002]

put it in the net inxtead of just taking it in the heli
everything is so pointlessly over-engineered

[Anonymous No.15768005]

takeoff soon

[Anonymous No.15768006]

>>15767967

[Anonymous No.15768008]

who the FUCK is jasmine?

[Anonymous No.15768009]

>>15767116
That's so easy

[Anonymous No.15768016]

KOBE

[Anonymous No.15768017]

>>15766900
I have gigabit fiber and I out far enough where I can't see my neighbors

[Anonymous No.15768019]

[Anonymous No.15768020]

>NASA gibing out free helicopter rides

[Anonymous No.15768021]

[Anonymous No.15768023]

It's over.

[Anonymous No.15768026]

>>15768021
> MASH theme begins playing.

[Anonymous No.15768033]

>>15767802
Yeah they should totally touch the thing that's probably still super fucking hot from reentry.

[Anonymous No.15768035]

>>15768033
I mean yeah, that's exactly what they're engineered to do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp9Yax8UNoM

[Anonymous No.15768036]

>>15768035
I love this video.

[Anonymous No.15768041]

>>15767770
You're thinking of Enceladus.
We still haven't confirmed any observation of plumes erupting from Europa yet, while Enceladus is out there spewing salty water literally constantly.

[Anonymous No.15768043]

>>15768033
it's probably not very hot
>>15768035
you're a retard those are space shuttle tiles

[Anonymous No.15768044]

Not sure how to feel about this crossover

[Anonymous No.15768048]

>>15768033
it just passed through the upper atmosphere which is very cold you moron

[Anonymous No.15768049]

>>15768043
You're right, I'm sure they changed the materials in the last 20 years to be less insulative, my mistake.

[Anonymous No.15768050]

>>15768044
depends how many of the insufferable faggots are on and if they let berger speak or not

[Anonymous No.15768053]

>>15767904
Yikes

[Anonymous No.15768057]

>>15768049
>You're right, I'm sure they changed the materials in the last 20 years to be less insulative, my mistake.
Go the fuck back if you don't even know the difference between ablative and ceramic.

[Anonymous No.15768060]

>>15767769
Matching mineral levels, rock type, if it has trapped gas bubbles the it would match Mars’s atmospheric composition

[Anonymous No.15768066]

>>15768041
there have been some observations suggesting plumes.

[Anonymous No.15768076]

>>15768057
Yes my mistake, the ablation carries the heat into the spacecraft and not into the atmosphere, I apologize once again.

[Anonymous No.15768081]

So are we really waiting for the fish and wildlife service to tell us that spilling a small quantity potable water next to the ocean isn't the end of the world?

[Anonymous No.15768085]

>>15766845
tattoos are absolute disgusting trash
its sure is a weird obsession fad everyone has with them

[Anonymous No.15768088]

>>15768081
You don't understand, swamps are worth more than the future of American space operations.

[Anonymous No.15768091]

>>15768076
reading comprehension
>>15768043
>it's probably not very hot

[Anonymous No.15768092]

>>15768081
releasing freshwater into the ocean isn't exactly a trivial challenge to survive for the local flora

[Anonymous No.15768095]

>>15768076
based apologist

[Anonymous No.15768097]

>>15768081
yes

[Anonymous No.15768100]

>>15767902
A few months for sample prep, distribution, analysis and write-ups. Then the race to publish.

[Anonymous No.15768103]

>>15768100
any speculation of what they will find, if anything?

[Anonymous No.15768106]

>>15767769
Isotopic ratios, primarily deuterium to hydrogen but they can use others. Earth's D/H ratio has been extensively studied so that extraterrestrial origin can be concluded from that alone. Data from landers and rovers can also be used: one particular measurement of note is any part of a rock that formed in a magnetic field different from earth's.

[Anonymous No.15768107]

Did those women who could barely lift it really have to be the ones assigned to handle the "precious cargo"

[Anonymous No.15768114]

>>15768106
so there is hydrogen in Martian meteorites?

[Anonymous No.15768116]

>>15768092
So just use salt water

[Anonymous No.15768119]

How much does Lockmart charge for the space brush?

[Anonymous No.15768123]

>>15768119
$120,000 USD wouldn’t surprise me

[Anonymous No.15768124]

>>15768103
Broadly, these are the research objectives.

[Anonymous No.15768126]

>>15768119
Ten bucks, that's just a grill cleaner from Walmart

[Anonymous No.15768138]

Why does a space rock get permission to land but life saving medicine from Varda doesn't?

[Anonymous No.15768143]

>>15767869
Cartilage doesn't stop growing, correct.

[Anonymous No.15768145]

>>15768138
Government agencies don't need FAA approval for re-entry

[Anonymous No.15768146]

>>15768124

[Anonymous No.15768150]

I just spent 8 minutes trying to find that brush online
can;t

[Anonymous No.15768160]

>>15768116
the Rahaptors will not take the salt kindly

[Anonymous No.15768164]

>>15768124
what do you think about the Martian samples they will bring back?

[Anonymous No.15768175]

>>15768160
So just dump salt in the drains

[Anonymous No.15768178]

>>15768146
How'd they get the second camera over there?

[Anonymous No.15768180]

>>15768178
Do not underestimate the power of yle.

[Anonymous No.15768206]

>media stream has audio from a bunch of the camera position
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA9UZF-SZoQ
i hate the reality tv talking heads shit so much. its making kids stupider they should be showing reality instead of doing a "show"

[Anonymous No.15768222]

[Anonymous No.15768227]

>>15768206
Mate, I sure wish I knew what the heck you were talking about

[Anonymous No.15768228]

>>15768222
capsul is safu

[Anonymous No.15768229]

>>15768222
Aliens

[Anonymous No.15768230]

>>15768227
just low iq. many such cases

[Anonymous No.15768247]

>>15767666
Ram ranch is under seige?

[Anonymous No.15768260]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9yYFqr9l08

[Anonymous No.15768300]

NSF:
>The commentators clarified the main chute release was triggered by deceleration rather than altitude- they expected deployment around 5000 feet. That would imply something was either off with their modeling, or if there was an issue with the drogue chute, the capsule may have entered the denser parts of the atmosphere moving faster than expected, resulting in greater deceleration at a higher altitude, and an earlier than anticipated touch down.

[Anonymous No.15768304]

>>15767380
>It's less in poor countries
it's not, not in my country at least

[Anonymous No.15768305]

>>15768300
Uh oh..that's bad

[Anonymous No.15768306]

>>15768300
now can we get a clarification from the announcers calling this return the “first of its kind ever”

[Anonymous No.15768311]

>>15768092
> into the ocean
starships bidet its not anywhere near the ocean FFS

[Anonymous No.15768318]

>>15768100
what happens in the black? Does the world end?

[Anonymous No.15768324]

>>15768318
critical mass of diversity hires are attached to the program by that point and no more sufficient data can be collected

[Anonymous No.15768353]

>>15768324
ah yes, the Shaneequa Horizon

[Anonymous No.15768364]

>>15768318
Interest by the general public has cooled off so much as to be invisible.

[Anonymous No.15768383]

>>15768126
you mean an aerospace grade decontaminated carbon scrubbing tool? $750 plus tip

[Anonymous No.15768403]

Where did the capsule actually touch down in the target area?

[Anonymous No.15768407]

>Main chute was supposed to deploy at about 5000 feet
>actually deployed at about 5000 meters

someone fucked up lol

[Anonymous No.15768409]

>>15768407
But it still touched down three minutes early?

[Anonymous No.15768422]

There was no drogue at all.
They called drogue deployment and nothing happened.
You should have seen it clearly on the WB57 camera

[Anonymous No.15768429]

>>15767458

[Anonymous No.15768440]

>>15768044
>Berger has a Stoke shirt
This feels like his BO hat at the failed green run

[Anonymous No.15768457]

>>15768422
I double checked the footage and it looks like you're right. A short glint of white is visible during descent at roughly 10 minutes before the predicted landing time, but no drogue deployment follows. Maybe it ripped off?

[Anonymous No.15768490]

>>15768407
Oh no not again

[Anonymous No.15768506]

turns out drogue chutes aren't necessary? what are the implications of this for mass autism, will they redesign MSR to have no drogues?

[Anonymous No.15768513]

>>15768506
Apparently MSR might unironically just lithobreak, I’m not even kidding

[Anonymous No.15768526]

So the drogue chutes failed?

[Anonymous No.15768540]

>>15768513
It is so small that chutes would add more weight than the required shielding.

[Anonymous No.15768552]

I was busy all day:
What did I miss?

[Anonymous No.15768555]

>>15768552
The first few minutes of the Andromeda Strain; but don't worry the good part is coming up

[Anonymous No.15768557]

What do you guys think the sample from Bennu will contain?

[Anonymous No.15768558]

>>15768552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdwyqctp908
we got some roggs back

[Anonymous No.15768561]

>>15768552
SCIENCE
performed by ZOE and JASMINE

[Anonymous No.15768565]

>>15768044
Just complaining about Elon

They've a streak of ideology

[Anonymous No.15768566]

>>15768557
Bennus :DDDD

[Anonymous No.15768570]

>>15768565
Ideology is complaining about a literal deranged person

[Anonymous No.15768572]

>>15768570
>Anyone that dont subscribe to our ideology is deranged
Go castrate yourself

[Anonymous No.15768575]

>>15768300
this would never have happened to JPL. Rookie mistake.

[Anonymous No.15768581]

Berger says Blue Origin is basically Boeing.

Yeowza

[Anonymous No.15768582]

>>15768429
what happened to the spacecraft?

[Anonymous No.15768583]

>>15768552
She sent me an ass pic and I think I'm in love

[Anonymous No.15768586]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.15768588]

>>15768582
It's going to try and redirect Apophis so it doesn't strike Earth in 2036.

[Anonymous No.15768590]

>>15768565
so not worth listening to?
because that sounds very tedious, just started listening at 60min

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjqNaBk7aTY

[Anonymous No.15768593]

>>15768588
based mission recycling. This spacecraft will provide interesting pictures in the years to come

[Anonymous No.15768594]

>>15768590
McBerger is really wise

[Anonymous No.15768604]

>>15768590
WHY DO THEY TALK TO HIM LIKE THAT? LIKE SOME FAGGOT AMATEUR NEWS ANCHOR? SPEAK TO HIM LIKE A HUMAN YOU GAYWADS

[Anonymous No.15768608]

>>15768604
this is why I don't watch NSF.

[Anonymous No.15768610]

>>15768608
overflowing with retard mervous laughter and marvel tier quips

[Anonymous No.15768611]

So I was thinking about Dragonfly and if it will last long enough to reach the polar lakes, and then a thought crossed my mind, not a single NASA spacecraft with an MMRTG failed due to age. Voyagers and Curiosity still work, Cassini deliberately crashed. So I thin it's safe to say than Dragonfly will comfortably last 20 years there. Any opinions?

[Anonymous No.15768614]

>>15768588
>It's going to try and redirect Apophis so it doesn't strike Earth in 2036.
So it does, you mean.

[Anonymous No.15768620]

>>15767159
Ribbed for her pleasure

[Anonymous No.15768621]

The tadpoles are swimming anons. Are you ready for what's to come?

[Anonymous No.15768626]

>>15768621
pregnancy?

[Anonymous No.15768627]

>>15768611
Not 20. Curiosity is at 11 years, and it's still going, but I don't think its other components will make it to 20 years. Dragonfly is a more novel design so I think it won't last as long as Curiosity.

[Anonymous No.15768629]

depo

[Anonymous No.15768631]

>>15767667
Very cool art but wtf is going on with that Dragon trunk lmao, are we combining it with the European Service Module now?

[Anonymous No.15768634]

Bunch of OSIRIS-rEX articles, the Ars article is long and comprehensive, Spacenews is pretty short and to the point, space.com article has some interview snippets and goes into the capsule handling process
---
https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/09/nasa-spacecraft-returns-to-earth-with-pieces-of-an-asteroid/
> NASA spacecraft returns to Earth with pieces of an asteroid
> NASA's OSIRIS-REx mission brought back the largest unspoiled sample of material ever returned to Earth from beyond the Moon, probably on the order of about 250 grams, or roughly 8 ounces, according to estimates. The spacecraft collected the samples from asteroid Bennu, a loosely-bound rocky world about the size of a small mountain, during a touch-and-go landing in October 2020.
> It's the third asteroid sampling mission in history, and the first for the United States, following two Japanese spacecraft that returned a smaller quantity of asteroid specimens to Earth in 2010 and 2020.
----
https://spacenews.com/osiris-rex-sample-capsule-lands-in-utah/
> OSIRIS-REx sample capsule lands in Utah
----
https://www.space.com/nasa-osiris-rex-asteroid-sample-return-next-stop-texas
> NASA's OSIRIS-REx capsule just landed with samples of asteroid Bennu. Next stop: Texas
> A new OSIRIS-REx Curation Laboratory in Houston awaits delivery of the asteroid samples, which will first be inspected at NASA's Johnson Space Center.
----
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2023/09/osirisrex-landing/
> Historic OSIRIS-REx asteroid samples successfully return to Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuL6_KO8OU4

[Anonymous No.15768639]

>>15768590
i hate the guy on the left with the onions face and reddit beard holy shit
his voice is grating

[Anonymous No.15768642]

>>15768627
I think Dragonfly could remain mobile longer than Curiosity since it doesn't have wheels. Brushless electric motor with a prop is probably very reliable. Also I think the only questionable component on Curiosity right now is the wheels.

[Anonymous No.15768645]

>>15768634
>the Ars article is long and comprehensive
based berger writing an article while being on a podcast

[Anonymous No.15768650]

>>15768645
its from stephen clark

[Anonymous No.15768660]

Any advantage to using honey instead of water in the deluge system?

[Anonymous No.15768663]

>>15768660
starbase would taste delicious

[Anonymous No.15768667]

>>15768660
you would have flies everywhere, which would bring in the birds so you can get rid of them once and for all

[Anonymous No.15768669]

>>15768590
I like how they are already begging him for a 2nd interview

[Anonymous No.15768675]

>>15768660
The benefits is that its all natural. While water is an alien technology

[Anonymous No.15768688]

>Berger dropping red pills about Shelby and SLS
Let's goooo.

[Anonymous No.15768705]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1pJlBkLt3c

Drone flyover of SpaceX Bastrop, Texas Starlink factory

[Anonymous No.15768711]

>>15768660
>giving the FWS another excuse to delay further because they need to add bees to their assessment
no. i want launch already.

[Anonymous No.15768712]

>>15768705

[Anonymous No.15768714]

https://youtu.be/21X5lGlDOfg

NASA press conference on Osiris-Rex is starting

[Anonymous No.15768717]

>>15768712
Getting serious about making more Starlinks I guess

[Anonymous No.15768727]

>>15768712
earth-mars and transfer orbit between them symbol, which is apparently also printed on starlink boxes

[Anonymous No.15768729]

>>15768712
>Electrical Test Engineets
>engiNEETS
I was born for this job.

[Anonymous No.15768730]

>>15768714
720p what in the fuck

[Anonymous No.15768734]

>>15768730
https://youtu.be/P79IZNTnVn8

enjoy

[Anonymous No.15768762]

>>15768734
entry into the cleanroom went extremely well

[Anonymous No.15768763]

>>15768705
Starlink factory

[Anonymous No.15768773]

>they don't know if the drogue chute deployed

[Anonymous No.15768776]

>>15768773
it's not that easy in parachutetry

[Anonymous No.15768779]

>>15768066
Those plumes on Europa might be from water pockets that are not connected to the deeper ocean

[Anonymous No.15768780]

>>15766857
I want to believe

[Anonymous No.15768781]

>>15768776
they had manned parachutes back in ww1

[Anonymous No.15768784]

>>15768779
This is correct.

[Anonymous No.15768789]

>>15768773
> LM rep dodging the question about possible re-entry sequence issues.

[Anonymous No.15768797]

>>15768781
I was unaware they deployed parachutes at supersonic speeds

[Anonymous No.15768798]

>>15768762
Does it usually not?

[Anonymous No.15768800]

Online comment

> I was really worried. The IR tracking shot never showed drogue deploy, even after it was past due, and I heard a call that a signal was sent for drogue deploy. Was waiting for another Genesis smash, and was amazed when they showed the main chute out.

Explains that gap in the YouTube coverage too. Pulled the plug because NASA/Lockmart panicked.

[Anonymous No.15768809]

>>15768800
Damn Genesis was completely memoryholed. I hope a parachute failure doesn't sabotage MSR

[Anonymous No.15768811]

>>15768800
literally LM went
>it’s over…
>…WAIT WE ARE SO BACK

[Anonymous No.15768819]

Here's a thread going from 2006 to today about Mars Sample Return, with comments from many insiders. Interesting read
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=2570&st=0&start=0

Here's a comment from 2006
>Funding a Mars sample return mission is not a good idea. This is a very expensive and complex mission. However since the ways to test space technologies on Earth are limited the possibilities are quite high that a Mars sample return cannot be achieved on the first try. Thats the way it is. But I don t think because of the high cost the public and many "space enthusiast" will have tolerance for a failure on the first try. The political climate is simply not right for high risk missions. So imagine the bashing after ... .

[Anonymous No.15768821]

>>15768819
>unmanned
YIKES

[Anonymous No.15768822]

Looks kinda sad.

[Anonymous No.15768823]

>>15768819
is it ever right for high risk missions? the public is a bunch of idiots

[Anonymous No.15768827]

NASA could have had cute girls in bikinis and space helmets on the recovery team, but nooooo!

[Anonymous No.15768830]

>>15768827
gorda

[Anonymous No.15768831]

>>15768821
?

[Anonymous No.15768832]

"Up up and awayyyyyy! "

[Anonymous No.15768834]

>>15768831
The PC term is "uncrewed" now, you occasionally see it in NASA communications

[Anonymous No.15768839]

>>15768834
so progressive

[Anonymous No.15768840]

>>15768822
the heck is the yellow circular thing?

[Anonymous No.15768842]

>>15768611
IIRC it still can't go to the lakes because it can't communicate back to Earth in the polar region, according to what some anon told me in this general months ago.

[Anonymous No.15768846]

>>15768811
> In the YT video there is a time gap for the landing clock in the upper left corner from 7m 49s to 7m 24s, which cuts out the actual video of the chute deployment.

So, it wasn't an accident and you weren't imagining things.

[Anonymous No.15768847]

>>15768842
why can't it communicate to Earth? It only needs line of sight?

[Anonymous No.15768851]

>>15768842
Damn it only there was some sort of convenient probe already at Saturn that could have just been used as a relay satellite ugh ha ha wouldn’t that have been crazy! Ugh. I’m just dreaming though XD

[Anonymous No.15768856]

>>15768800
>>15768809
>Genesis smash
huh I had never heard of this before

[Anonymous No.15768857]

>>15768851
A basic Saturn probe could cost as little as $800 M. Shame what happened to Cassini. It brought us many epic images

[Anonymous No.15768858]

[Anonymous No.15768861]

>>15768840
Also on the top. So its....

> The backshell of the SRC is also covered with thermal protection material, but since it resides in the wake of the hot gas flow, it will not need as much protection as the forward facing side. Its Thermal Protection System is comprised of a cork-based material known as SLA 561V, originally developed for the Viking missions to Mars in the 1970s and in use on a number of missions including the Mars Pathfinder, Genesis and MER rover missions. Also facilitated within the backshell is the parachute mechanism with secure attach points for the parachutes to the capsule.

Guessing, the patch on the side is for -- TELCOM or sensors?

[Anonymous No.15768863]

>>15768847
I don't recall exactly what the anon said but I guess it is the atmosphere thickness from a polar angle

[Anonymous No.15768864]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_(spacecraft)
> Genesis was launched on August 8, 2001, and the sample return capsule crash-landed in Utah on September 8, 2004, after a design flaw prevented the deployment of its drogue parachute.

> Initial investigations showed that some wafers had crumbled on impact, but others were largely intact. Desert dirt entered the capsule, but not liquid water. Because the solar wind particles were expected to be embedded in the wafers, whereas the contaminating dirt was thought likely just to lie on the surface, it was possible to separate the dirt from the samples. Unexpectedly, it was not terrestrial desert soil introduced in the crash that proved most difficult to deal with during the sample analysis process, but the craft's own compounds such as lubricants and craft-building materials.[22]

> A first possible root cause of the failed deployment of the parachutes was announced in an October 14 press release. Lockheed Martin had designed the system with an acceleration sensor's internal mechanisms wrongly oriented (a G-switch was backwards), and design reviews had not caught the mistake. The accelerometer was installed according to the incorrect design. The intended design was to make an electrical contact inside the sensor at 3 g (29 m/s2), maintaining it through the maximum expected 30 g (290 m/s2), and breaking the contact again at 3 g to start the parachute release sequence. Instead, no contact was ever made.[32]


so not the first time a drogue doesn't deploy properly

[Anonymous No.15768865]

>>15768856
Hard landing way out of spec smashed the samples inside. NASA spent years fishing out the bits they wanted.

[Anonymous No.15768866]

>>15768857
Is cassini-huygens the best post-voyager deep space mission?

[Anonymous No.15768871]

>>15768851
Yeah, you are. Cassini was out of maneuvering fuel, which meant that parking it into an orbit that would be stable long-term would mean putting it so far out from Saturn that it wouldn't have had much use as a relay, and the cost of keeping a probe from 1997 operational another seventeen years until 2034 when Dragonfly was supposed to arrive would have had a detrimental impact on the budgets for other science missions.

[Anonymous No.15768872]

> A gravity-switch sensor is a vital component in the return sequence. Coupled to a master timer, the sensor will initiate the pressurization of a mortar-tube via a pyrotechnic gas cartridge to rapidly expel the Drogue Chute. The drogue is deployed 31 Kilometers in altitude when the SRC has already slowed to March 1.4 through drag in the atmosphere. A small pyrotechnic device is used to release the drogue chute from the capsule at 3 Kilometers using pressure sensors to trigger the event.

Or not. We'll let you know. - LockMart.

[Anonymous No.15768873]

>>15768800
I remember reading that they put a gravity switch in backwards or upside down. As it was going into the atmosphere, it thought it had already landed or something, and let go of the chute right away.
It was really amazing how well they were able to deal with the wreckage inside that thing in spite of the mess.

[Anonymous No.15768874]

>>15768866
Define “deep space”, but yes. It and Magellan are both super kino

[Anonymous No.15768876]

>>15768866
Yeah it was slightly better than Galileo

[Anonymous No.15768879]

https://www.govtech.com/products/environmental-groups-say-court-erred-dismissing-spacex-lawsuit

[Anonymous No.15768892]

>>15768871
Really makes me wish our space programs had a third of the defense budget.

[Anonymous No.15768895]

>>15768879
Unironically what is stopping NASA//the gooberment/whatever from just federalizing the entire area as a “testing range” or whatever, and basically handing it back to SX with some sort of lease agreement and letting them do whatever the FUCK they want to and/or need to in order to get SS operational. Fucking hell, at this point I’d be fine if the trade off was that BO also got land there and got to do New Glenn testing as long as it meant minimal FAA paperwork and absolutely fuck all environmental problems from outsiders

[Anonymous No.15768902]

>>15768895
We already have Kennedy for that

[Anonymous No.15768903]

>>15768895
> Implying the Federal government isn't engaging in open warfare with Elon the Inconvenient.

[Anonymous No.15768905]

>>15768895
nothing, I wonder if Musk is trying to get the republicans to do something like that

[Anonymous No.15768920]

>>15768892
We don't need a DoD sized budget. We just need a production run of non-bespoke probes like the Mariner Mk. II series and a block buy of cheap commercial launchers to fling them.

>>15768895
I'd be fine with this if it meant that there would be any actual testing going on for New Glenn.

[Anonymous No.15768926]

>>15768920
>non-bespoke probes
Aren't low cost probes like Lucy close to that? It was assembled with components designed for other missions.

[Anonymous No.15768927]

>>15768873
> It was determined that the G-switch sensors were improperly oriented on the SRC-AU relay card, making it impossible to initiate the EST circuitry and fire the pyrotechnics.

> MIB review of the board assembly drawings, flight board closeout photographs, and the flight A and B side AU’s indicates that the switches were installed in accordance with the design drawings. However, the relay cards, which contained the Gswitch sensors, were designed with the G-switch sensors in an inverted orientation as compared to how they were planned for Stardust (the heritage design).

"Jet-sonnnn!"

[Anonymous No.15768932]

>>15768879
lmao, a bunch of people finding out the hard way that just because there's a law that says the public has the right to access Texas public beaches, doesn't mean the public can sue to get access to Texas public beaches

If they keep being annoying about it I can see the state selling SpaceX the entire beach which would make the whole issue moot and leave the complainers with no beach access at all

[Anonymous No.15768933]

>>15768927
didn't the same thing happen to the Russian rocket?

[Anonymous No.15768934]

>>15768926
no, it needs to be mass produced as well

[Anonymous No.15768935]

>>15768926
NASA's been pretty good in the past about building out probes from the spares left over from previous missions. I'm thinking about something that treats a deep space probe more like a standardized satellite bus. Propulsion, control, communications, etc, are all standardized and rolled off an assembly line a dozen at a time. Then all the mission planners need to do is plug in the specific scientific instruments they need and make sure everything in inside the weight restrictions.

[Anonymous No.15768940]

Whoever is arguing against the retards on /k/ with me, bless you

[Anonymous No.15768941]

>>15768933
Yes but the difference being: this was a very tiny sensor that a group of idiots welded upside down and nobody caught it in QC

The russia Proton thing was a big piece of physical hardware that needed to clamp in. Some orc had it in upside down and decided the best course of action was to just brute force it via a hammer until something happened and it

Both equally retarded but the American slip up can at least be excused as an innocent (albeit stupid) oversight. The russians are just flat out retarded (what’s new?)

[Anonymous No.15768944]

>>15768940
Very dangerous, easy way to catch a 30 day ban on /k/ for zero reason.

[Anonymous No.15768945]

>>15768935
This would be quite the dream.
A line of standard instruments that allow missions to be assembled cheap and quickly.
But I believe there is still the issue of powering the probe. You can use solar panels up to Jupiter's orbit, but after that it's only RTGs.

[Anonymous No.15768948]

>>15768944
It's all about rockets now
A lot of EDS anons stomping through

[Anonymous No.15768949]

>>15768941
> this was a very tiny sensor that a group of idiots welded upside down and nobody caught it in QC.

Those "idiots" installed the sensor as designed. The engineers and their chain designed the part in ass backwards.

[Anonymous No.15768951]

>>15768935
You'd have to break it down into solar-powered vs RTG-powered variants immediately
Then you'd need to come up with a standard for heat pipes on the RTG-powered variant because you have to keep the instruments warm

Then you have to decide pretty much immediately if you're going to support scan platforms or not, which half of the missions require and half don't, so you end up with four variants regardless of any amount of standardization

And THEN if someone wants optics you're right back to making it custom around the focal length

[Anonymous No.15768953]

>>15767384
>6 year old grandmother
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.15768954]

>>15768949
Oh, then it is even more forgivable on their end hahahah
Honestly though imagine the absolute dread it must feel like to know a mission you worked on failed, and then the mishap investigation concluded and points it’s finger directly at your department. I think I would be too ashamed to ever show my face again

[Anonymous No.15768955]

>>15768945
well then you just build 2 main types

[Anonymous No.15768956]

>>15768940
>/k/ keeps saying starship is a leo architecture and that Michael D. Griffin is the mastermind behind spacex
what the fuck is this thread???

[Anonymous No.15768957]

>>15768956
it's one guy and he posts in this thread too

[Anonymous No.15768959]

How do we break apart the SpaceX monopoly? They've been choking the competition out for way too long?

[Anonymous No.15768961]

>>15768951
why would you need to customize around focal length?
also just ignore scan platforms, make the standardized probe as cheap as possible then just send multiple of them

[Anonymous No.15768969]

>>15768959
choke me harder daddy

[Anonymous No.15768971]

>>15768969
hello there fellow degenerate
how about we choke eachother?

[Anonymous No.15768972]

>>15768959
>Make rogget landings illegal
>Require all rogget launches to have extensive reviews so there are only a couple launches per year

[Anonymous No.15768975]

>>15768959
>How do we break apart the SpaceX monopoly? They've been choking the competition out for way too long?

The competition needs to Get Gud. There's nothing wrong with having a monopoly that comes from fairly outcompeting everyone else.

[Anonymous No.15768976]

>>15768864
and people won't stop shitting on Proton

[Anonymous No.15768978]

>>15768976
>and people won't stop shitting on Proton
They literally hammered a single-direction-orientable sensor upside down and the manager signed off on something that should have been impossible to miss. Proton and its sub-90% success rate deserves every bit of shit it gets.

[Anonymous No.15768987]

>>15768164
If you've seen the most recent cost estimates for MSR, it never ain't happening as designed. Maybe if/when Elon gets to Mars he can toss the sample vials in a box for a trip home.

[Anonymous No.15768988]

>>15768959
>muh monopoly
No one else is seriously trying.

[Anonymous No.15768991]

>>15768959
I laugh every time someone brings up the cuck box lmao

[Anonymous No.15768995]

>>15768987
This is the biggest problem I've got with MSR. It's been in the planning stages repeatedly since the late eighties and it's dragged its heels for so long it's about to be beaten to the punch by a commercial crewed venture.

[Anonymous No.15768998]

>>15768959
SpaceX has a good monopoly because they provide the best product at the lowest price, not because they manipulate the market

[Anonymous No.15769008]

[Anonymous No.15769010]

[Anonymous No.15769011]

>>15769008
Sweet. I assume nuclear shuttle?

[Anonymous No.15769014]

Waiting for the day starship flights become so frequent we can get Big Jet TV commentators livestreaming

EASY SON

[Anonymous No.15769018]

[Anonymous No.15769021]

Kek

[Anonymous No.15769023]

>>15769021
I couldn't watch it live, why the idiocracy vibes?

[Anonymous No.15769024]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1706097336001134632

rekt

[Anonymous No.15769025]

>>15769024
https://twitter.com/Artistic_Bots/status/1706052581141704766

[Anonymous No.15769029]

>>15768949
Just like Astra LV0008!

[Anonymous No.15769030]

>>15769023
also curious, couldnt watch

[Anonymous No.15769031]

>>15769025
"Space journalism is space PR!"
No shit buddy, it's ITAR restricted and national security adjacent, so anything you find out is something someone was cleared to tell you.

[Anonymous No.15769032]

>>15768972
>>15768972
>Require all rogget launches to have extensive reviews so there are only a couple launches per year


You joke, but I can see them doing this.

[Anonymous No.15769033]

>>15769032
it'll happen after the first booster goes rogue and lands on some hickville town

[Anonymous No.15769039]

>>15769033
you sure about that? Starlink might already be too important to disrupt like that
it needs constant launches to build up and later keep functional

[Anonymous No.15769041]

>>15769039
to add to this, starlink is really a genius thing for spacex, it solves so many problems at the same time
gives something for Starship to do while demand catches up
gives them massive revenues
the military and civilian applications give a clear reason to normies of why space/launching is important

[Anonymous No.15769044]

>>15768927
Thanks. It's been a while. I remembered it was stupid, but less stupid than what a rooskie would do.
>>15768933
>>15768941
>Both equally retarded but the American slip up can at least be excused as an innocent (albeit stupid) oversight.
It was more like the first Ariane 5 flight aborting because of some code that worked fine on A4 because it couldn't go fast enough. It didn't need to run after launch, but it was left running for the first T+30 seconds or so. The A5 it went fast enough that it could overflow with an uncaught exception, causing a software abort of the entire flight control system, and triggering the FTS.
In this case it was an entire module being designed upside-down from the previous vehicle. Which is why you shouldn't put gravity-dependent switches in a big module. Put in a header and mount them somewhere else where the orientation is obvious and not likely to get rotated because of mass autism.

[Anonymous No.15769045]

>>15769039
It's like how they can't use GPS Selective Availability anymore, because there is too much civilian-grade stuff that depends on the full resolution.

[Anonymous No.15769046]

>>15769039
dont underestimate the biden admin and the democrats in sabotaging american national interests.

[Anonymous No.15769050]

>>15769025
Ratliff is either a lunatic or incredibly autistic based on his behavior on twitter over the last month.

[Anonymous No.15769058]

>>15769050
Seems like a lunatic/crank to me

[Anonymous No.15769060]

[Anonymous No.15769067]

>>15769023
Maybe because of how slow they took things?
I think it was fine. I mean they do have to worry about invisible things like possible hypergolic fuel leaks an sheet, but they also reeeealy want to avoid contaminating the sample chamber. Or even just having it fall over while they're poking at it.

[Anonymous No.15769068]

>>15769014
You led me into reading the Wikipedia page about aircraft spotting and I found picrel lmao
Also they apparently have no page about rocket spotting yet

[Anonymous No.15769070]

>>15769068
I forgot the picrel

[Anonymous No.15769074]

>>15769070
>an-225
:(

[Anonymous No.15769104]

>>15769074

[Anonymous No.15769120]

>>15769104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSaCyuLtv_M

[Anonymous No.15769134]

>>15769025
They need to rebrand. I thought for ages that NSF was NASA sponsored or something.

[Anonymous No.15769135]

>>15769134
its part of the grift

[Anonymous No.15769137]

>>15769135
Yeah, NASAwatch for example is keen to point out it isn't NASA operated or affiliated

[Anonymous No.15769146]

>>15769134
While the most recent rebrand deemphasized the NASA part of it, I thought they would've taken that opportunity to do a full renaming. Indeed they probably should've. Just sticking to "NSF" is weird to me when the National Science Foundation is space-adjacent.

[Anonymous No.15769149]

I bet Musk gets good rates on his rocket insurance.

[Anonymous No.15769156]

>>15769146
there is also the nextspaceflight website

[Anonymous No.15769177]

>>15768407
>>15768490
No way, I refuse to believe this happened AGAIN. Source on that?

[Anonymous No.15769189]

>>15768407
'MERICA FUCK YEAH

[Anonymous No.15769228]

>>15769025
I'm sure you could write a really interesting book about the spectacular bureaucratic waste and graft involved in the creation of SLS. If you wanted to really do it justice I think that the final product would be bigger than Caro's LBJ biography.
Unfortunately Boeing would probably have you killed before it was done.

[Anonymous No.15769233]

>>15769104

[Anonymous No.15769266]

>>15769149
Best insurance no insurance

[Anonymous No.15769281]

>>15769266
How long 'til every other launcher cries foul after SpaceX starts self-insuring launches on F9?

[Anonymous No.15769290]

>>15769281
NTA but I’m too dumb to understand how insurance works / why this would be a bad thing from everyone else’s point of view

[Anonymous No.15769300]

>>15769290
when the rocket is reliable, insurance is literally free money from the insurer's point of view

[Anonymous No.15769314]

>>15767470
N is the one final consonant in Japanese, so Ben is perfectly pronounceable in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.15769315]

>>15767667
this made me think: what if instead of trying to build a big ass rocket, they sent a bunch of them with excess fuel and tranferred that fuel (and/or the kinetic energy) to a single one to send to mars?

[Anonymous No.15769316]

>>15769104
:(

[Anonymous No.15769321]

>>15769135
>>15769134
Kinda crazy they haven't been C&D'd by NASA already for using the name in a way that makes people think they're actually from NASA.

[Anonymous No.15769342]

>>15769315
I don't know if you're joking.

[Anonymous No.15769344]

>>15767795
lol penis

[Anonymous No.15769346]

>>15769321
I always assumed that’s why they rebranded recently. Either because they wanted to avoid it, or because they finally heard from NASA legal

[Anonymous No.15769358]

>>15767985
What has 12 arms and why does it need a spacesuit?

[Anonymous No.15769359]

>>15769358
A hermetically sealed containment unit designed to be operated in six different positions.

[Anonymous No.15769361]

>>15769342
why would I be? why can't that be done? keep them in orbit for a while, make them join at certain point, transfer fuel, then make one of them travel elsewhere while the others return to earth

[Anonymous No.15769362]

>>15767991
helicopter is the best mode of transportation when you need a plausible explanation for deaths or the destruction of artifacts

[Anonymous No.15769366]

>>15769358
*points 12 thumbs at himself*
this guy

[Anonymous No.15769372]

>>15769070

[Anonymous No.15769380]

>>15768304
It was $40/month in the Philippines when I checked

[Anonymous No.15769390]

>>15768660
it would make vegans seethe about nothing

[Anonymous No.15769392]

>>15767764
You know, this got me thinking. If aliens wanted to destroy or enslave humanity the easiest way would be to show up and just start offering alien wives to men. Seriously, all they'd have to do is make men feel desired and they could get humanity to willingly walk into servitude. Hell, they could literally say "yes we're going to make humanity a subservient race to us" and they'd still have tons of men eager and ready to side with the aliens just to solve their own loneliness.
It's really quite horrifying and insidious. In typical portrayals of aliens conquering or attempting to conquer humanity there's a great shared sense of unity, that in our darkest hour we all more or less come together to fight for our own destiny. Even in failure, there's a noble glory to it. That we died doing our best to stand for ourselves. But here? There is no glory or great resistance. There's only collective treachery that sells out humanity's future.
The worst part is I can't even be sure that other anons in this thread wouldn't be part of that group who'd choose to make humanity into slaves of the aliens in a scenario like that.

[Anonymous No.15769393]

>>15769315
Anon please that's the plan already

[Anonymous No.15769398]

>>15769393
See >>15769361
He's joking.

[Anonymous No.15769399]

>>15769372
>>15769074
>>15769104
Friendly reminder that it was Ukrainian artillery that destroyed the An-225.

[Anonymous No.15769411]

>>15769392
https://x.com/deltaIV9250/status/1706107016429617619

[Anonymous No.15769417]

>>15769399
Half the shit in Russia looks like that. The 90s were not a good time.

[Anonymous No.15769423]

>>15769393
wait, it is? really? I didn't know jej... so, how many of them do they plan on building?

I just read the wikipedia and you are right, that's the plan

[Anonymous No.15769435]

>>15769417
No I mean they literally shelled it along with the rest of the airport in order to drive the Russian military out.

[Anonymous No.15769443]

should we space elevator?

[Anonymous No.15769446]

>>15767769
sir I like SPACE SHIPS, I do not like ROCKS
I do not want to live on a ROCK
ROCKS are smelly and dirty.

[Anonymous No.15769456]

>>15769361
>why can't that be done?
Because...YOU JUST CAN'T OKAY

[Anonymous No.15769495]

>>15769399
Delete it. Delete this right now. Ukraine needs all the support the internet can give and this is functionally equivalent to supporting r*ssia

[Anonymous No.15769500]

>>15768864
Make this picture the next OP to troll people

[Anonymous No.15769507]

>>15769399
>>15769495
>Caring about e*rthers
E*rthers are only concernable in as far as you can steal shit from them and using as target practice

[Anonymous No.15769524]

>>15769392
that's why musk is developing the teslabot

[Anonymous No.15769527]

>>15769392
So you're saying the only way for the ziggers to win is to send millions of mail order brides to the front lines?

[Anonymous No.15769531]

>>15769527
Considering the all the Ukrainian women left and aren't coming back. That seems like a sound strategy

[Anonymous No.15769568]

goodnight dead sfg

[Anonymous No.15769573]

>>15769392
>Adam, my son, it is time for you to choose a wife
>Will you pick the human, Eve, who will immediately get fat after marriage, resent you for various uncontrollable physical characteristics, have extramarital affairs with other men before taking half your possessions along with your dog and children
>Or will you pick Zorpina, she may be green and a little strange looking but she is loving, loyal and will bear you many cute and strong half alien offspring

[Anonymous No.15769610]

>>15769392
The earth is flat and stationary with a dome. They are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive, and neither are you sciencegoys.
CGI is all you get in this life and if you are vaxxed, I know many of you here are well boosted, then the Alien invasion will be livestreamed straight into your vaxxed brain.
Also with the latest Neurolink brain processor you'll be able to watch multiple invasions on multiple exo-planets at the same time, with the same bitrate and no loss in quality experience.

[Anonymous No.15769619]

>>15769392
Basic economics dictate that human females will lower the pussy prices to compete and may even end up wholesale killing your ayywaifus if necessary

[Anonymous No.15769624]

>>15769619
What if the ayys offer genuine love and care (conditional on loss of your freedom)?
>may even end up wholesale killing your ayywaifus if necessary
Sounds like a good falseflag for the ayys to pull.

[Anonymous No.15769632]

>>15768895
EDS

[Anonymous No.15769637]

>>15769399
>source: RT (your ass)

[Anonymous No.15769674]

>>15766840
3 million subscribers is expected in march. starlink should be at 4 or 5 million subscribers by the end of next year.

[Anonymous No.15769676]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1706227960519483805
Starshit launch

[Anonymous No.15769695]

>>15768809
>I hope a parachute failure doesn't sabotage MSR
I think that's the last thing we should be worried about for MSR.

[Anonymous No.15769699]

>>15769500
kek

[Anonymous No.15769716]

>>15769676
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1706233061220704457

[Anonymous No.15769724]

>>15769716
>>15769676
>no launch cat
>no discussion
ROUTINE
I remember when starlink launch THREADS would get like 50 posts

[Anonymous No.15769739]

>>15769024
>>15769025
>berger replying to CSS skeptic's space company partner
LMAO

[Anonymous No.15769752]

>>15769372
>>15769074
>>15769104
>redditiya

[Anonymous No.15769766]

>>15769380
>>15766928
>US$100
EUR 50 here in Italy, = USD 53. Last I looked it was 120 EUR+, this now makes it attractive to me where I suffer from fixed line 14 Mbps down, 0.5 Mbps up with frequent outages from a few minutes to a few hours.

[Anonymous No.15769781]

https://janismac.github.io/ControlChallenges/
try this shit out

[Anonymous No.15769785]

https://archive dot ph/SlCbA

They are noticing that Biden admin specifically harasses Musk for politics.

[Anonymous No.15769786]

>>15769781
also the example code that works
not my website, just saw it on hn. cool shit

[Anonymous No.15769807]

>>15769785

[Anonymous No.15769813]

>>15769785
> DOJ’s actions come amid Federal Trade Commission Chair Lina Khan’s hazing of Twitter following Mr. Musk’s takeover. The FTC has brow-beat Twitter with document demands that include identifying “all journalists” granted access to company records, including the “nature of access granted each person.”

> The harassment extends to the Biden National Labor Relations Board, which has slapped Tesla with complaints related to its dress code and alleged instruction to employees not to discuss pay and working conditions. The Securities and Exchange Commission is also reportedly investigating Mr. Musk over Tesla’s self-driving claims.

wow its much more comprehensive than I thought, deluge of frivolous bullshit from every possible channel lmao

[Anonymous No.15769836]

>>15769423
thousands

[Anonymous No.15769855]

>>15769423
the rough plan is to send 1 million tonnes of material to mars to get the self-sufficient colony started
so if you have 100 tonnes per trip, you need 10k trips and most of that material will be at the back end of your plan as you keep building more ships
initially you don't send so many because you haven't built that many Starships

[Anonymous No.15769856]

>>15769855
>>15769423
to add to this, this is why they are building a factory to crank them out and why the Starships are designed to be mass producible

[Anonymous No.15769868]

Staging

>>15769866
>>15769866
>>15769866

[Anonymous No.15769897]

>>15768066
Yes but not confirmed, which is what I said.
Meanwhile Enceladus is puking its guts out so consistently it's formed a water ice dust ring around Saturn (E ring)

[Anonymous No.15769900]

>>15768092
Someone better go shut off the Amazon river, it's consequences to marine life must be devastating

[Anonymous No.15769905]

>>15768409
cuz it didn't drogue, so it stayed fast for longer

[Anonymous No.15769950]

>>15768951
You can use the exact same heating system with RTG vs solar powered versions simply by using a small electric heater on the solar version to provide heat at the same flux the RTG would provide.
You can do it the other way too, go all electric heat, but then you're not taking advantage of the free heat an RTG makes, so it's less optimal.

[Anonymous No.15769957]

>>15768944
What's the drawback?

[Anonymous No.15769970]

>>15769067
I'm pretty sure the capsule didn't contain a propulsion system.

[Anonymous No.15769975]

>>15769060
Old space paintings really have a degree of soul that's hard to find outside of artistic depictions of religious scenes

[Anonymous No.15769985]

>>15769573
Can I have Lilith instead

[Anonymous No.15769992]

>>15769619
Your economics model assumes women are trying to attract the majority of men. Common perceptive failure in men. In reality, women want to attract only the most attractive few percent of their potential pool of suitors. This is evidenced by the fact that women on dating apps become hyperselective. This paradigm is stable in any scenario which does not involve the reduction of the available top few percent of attractive males, who coincidentally are the least likely to be desperate enough to marry alien pussy.
My hypothesis is that the bottom 50% of men could remove themselves from the dating pool entirely without young women even noticing, much less caring. Since young women are where babies come from, they are the only group of women relevant to this discussion (ie effects of hitting the wall do not meaningfully change the results).

[Anonymous No.15769998]

>>15769724
luv to see it

[Anonymous No.15770094]

>>15769985
If we get aliens with Pink/Purple/Red or Yellow eyes I'm throwing my humanity away.

[Anonymous No.15770301]

>>15769975
post religious scenes

[Anonymous No.15770363]

>>15769411
and out of all of them, the only rocket to successfully deliver anything to orbit at a lower price per kilogram than Falcon 1 is fucking Rocket 3