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Is it authentic or bullshit?

>> No.15761685 [DELETED] 

I think this thread is on page 3, about to be on page 4 then page 10. Enjoy!

>> No.15762100 [DELETED] 

>>15761586
According to the science its legit

>> No.15762160

>>15761586
>"Yeah Jesus was wrapped in this"
>No perspective distortion
hmm really makes you think

>> No.15763043

>>15761586
it's a medieval fake. besides, if it was real, it would violate my Free Will (tm), as any proof of the christian god would do, or so I am told by desperate christards trying to explain why gawd, despite wanting us to believe in him, refuses to give irrefutable evidence of his existence.

>> No.15764148

>>15763043
>medieval fake
tech didn't exist at the time to fake it

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According to scientific investigations of the topic its real.

The words of militant atheists such as >>15763043 must always be disregarded because atheists do net believe that dishonesty and lying are sins, they believe that dishonesty and lying are valuable tools to be used in spreading their message and should be employed at every advantageous opportunity.
Only Christians believe that lying is wrong and should never be done. That is why only Christians can do science and why Christians were able to develop the scientific method when no other groups could. Christianity provides the framework necessary for a truth and rationality based view of the world, other systems of belief do not off that opportunity because they are permissive to untruth

>> No.15764236

>>15764233
Unironically Christianity is the greatest
We have a jew controlled media (via appeal to base emotion and the lowest common denominator) so you wouldn't think it

>> No.15764245

>>15764233
You, and pretty much all 4chan "christians", sound much more militant than that anon

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>>15761586
its as real as the pandemic

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i don't know looks too viking ish to be jesus

>> No.15764295

>>15764257
Jesus is Aryan

>> No.15764307

According to several researchers the historical timeline we are told is greatly distorted

>> No.15764323

>>15762100

The carbon dating placed it well after the time of christ, making it fake.

>>15764233

My high school chemistry textbook is a more trustworthy source than any 4chan post, in particular, yours. Your evidence presented is a partisan web article, and you yourself quickly descend into the usual meaningless platitudes.

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>>15764295
>chud headcanon

>> No.15764337

>>15764323
>The carbon dating placed it well after the time of christ, making it fake.
not so clear cut see >>15764307 and c14 dating has some sugnificant issues

>> No.15764344

>>15764337
>Argument relies on a worldwide conspiracy to invent several fake centuries

>> No.15764360

>>15764344
The invention of several centuries is what the close examination of history seems to reveal and the c14 data seems to be calibrated off of these defective timelines

I'm not putting a foot into the debate over the turin shroud authenticity but the supposed c14 counter evidence is less firm than is claimed for it.
the church had a history of faking artefacts so who really knows

>> No.15764370

>>15764360
And you surely have a strong consensus of historians saying this

>> No.15764374

>>15764370
Heinsohn's dark earth based single catastrophe theory is quite convincing and places a number of events spaced over several centuries as actually contemporaneous

>> No.15764378

>>15764374
*I'm unsure whether the time added is as long as he thought it could be, but certainly several different sources suggest the addition of several centuries ranging from 3 to 7.
The coptic calendar suggests around 280 year, dendrochronology analysis suggests certain segments have been misaligned by 3 centuries

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>>15764323
>My high school chemistry textbook is a more trustworthy source than any 4chan post,
you're not going to accept any answer that doesn't confirm your preconceived atheist beliefs because you're a dishonest militant atheist. your obstinance in denying christ has not absurdly extended to the point of denying the possibility that there could have been a guy who was buried 2000 years ago who had a death shroud that was preserved to the present day. you will not even acknowledge that.
>its a partisan source
everything that doesn't confirm your preconceived militant atheist notions is a partisan source, its all a big conspiracy. billions of christians spend their days and night thinking about your and how to trick you into falsely believing in jesus. thats definitely far more reasonable than a piece of cloth surviving 2000 years. ötzi the iceman's 9000 year old underwear is definitely real tho, but a burial shroud from 2000 years ago is impossible

>> No.15764810

>>15762160
>No perspective distortion

what are u talking about? his head is tiny in relation to the body

>> No.15764813

>>15761586
it's real, and i'm selling it for 300 million dollars

>> No.15764928

>>15763043
>>15764323
You guys don’t know what fake means and know jack crap about the subject but think you need to smear you shitty opinions all over the place. Jesus can suck a dick. People don’t fly to heaven. The shroud is real. This is the science board so say some science.

>> No.15764958

>>15761586
Why does it look like a picture from the front? Shouldn't it be wrapped around and show some wired proportions?

Also, are there other shrouds that look like this? Do they look similar? Is the imaging understood? Is it dried blood that we see, or something different?

>> No.15764985

>>15761586
>>>/x/

>> No.15765032

>>15761685
How is this paranormal?

>> No.15765570

radiocarbon dating was done and proved it to be fake. fabricated between 1250 and 1400.

>> No.15765586

>>15764335
>seething kike

>> No.15766669

>>15764295
>>15764257
All of the contemporary sources refer to him as fair haired with pale eyes.

>> No.15766679

>>15765570
To be fair, they only took a piece from the very edge and "believers" claim that it was mended. At the same time, no radiocarbon dating has been performed with material from the centre.

>> No.15766719

>>15766669
Vacuous "truth". The statement
>All of the contemporary sources refer to him as a gay nigger from outer space.
would be equally "true".

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>> No.15766958

>>15761586
fake and gay